Things Players HATE in HOI4 (Part 2)

10 more things that players HATE in Hearts of Iron IV!
Disclaimer: I don't actually hate the game (I literally make videos about it)
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Hearts of Iron IV is a grand strategy wargame developed by Paradox Development Studio and published by Paradox Interactive. Released on June 6, 2016, it is the sequel to Hearts of Iron III and part of the Hearts of Iron series of grand strategy games focusing on World War II. The player may take control of any nation in the world in either 1936 or 1939 and lead them to victory or defeat against other countries.
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Original concept inspired by @HavocGaming , they don't create content for Hoi4 but I still want to credit them here
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  • @abokadohoi4
    @abokadohoi411 ай бұрын

    I forgot to mention that you can currently only do offer peace if you are losing, so if you’re winning the option is locked out entirely…

  • @Africock

    @Africock

    7 ай бұрын

    Still a stupid setting tho, no AI country would suing for peace before they were knocked out.

  • @axelhvetlander2212
    @axelhvetlander221211 ай бұрын

    Accidentally selecting every unit in the army when you click on a single one.

  • @ottomanaxohdmapping7691

    @ottomanaxohdmapping7691

    11 ай бұрын

    Pain

  • @catfacecat.

    @catfacecat.

    9 ай бұрын

    I just press h but its super annoying

  • @42carlos

    @42carlos

    8 ай бұрын

    More specifically You accidentally assign an entire army to a new order in the middle of the war They strat-redeploy for no reason, lose their org, die, and you lose the war peak czechoslovakia vibes

  • @epicsx43
    @epicsx4311 ай бұрын

    Another annoying feature is during late game when your puppets keep on giving you hundreds of divisions, some of which you cannot delete.

  • @abokadohoi4

    @abokadohoi4

    11 ай бұрын

    I don’t think you can delete any of them unless you annex the puppet. If you click delete the AI just gets control of the division

  • @AyCk567

    @AyCk567

    11 ай бұрын

    Italian puppet noises...

  • @michaelkaminski1166

    @michaelkaminski1166

    11 ай бұрын

    You can give the division back to the puppet, but it’s extremely annoying to have to do it every single time they recruit a division. It would be nice to have a button that lets me automatically give them back, or just not take them.

  • @joebidengaming6329

    @joebidengaming6329

    10 ай бұрын

    crazy this is still a thing do they not play their game?

  • @rainbowappleslice
    @rainbowappleslice11 ай бұрын

    I remember assigning a railway gun as Italy and instead of taking the railways from the bottom of Italy to the top it instead tried to cross the sea, got intercepted by British subs and died straight away

  • @austria-hungary7680

    @austria-hungary7680

    11 ай бұрын

    HOI4 Ai

  • @catfacecat.

    @catfacecat.

    9 ай бұрын

    The best hoi4 ai be like:

  • @Stallins_ALT

    @Stallins_ALT

    8 ай бұрын

    same i swear italy is cursed it only has ever done that to me in italy and i was playing spain!

  • @michaelkaminski1166
    @michaelkaminski116611 ай бұрын

    Something I realized recently that I now despise is that if AI Germany capitulates the USSR, they annex the entire country, even with historical focuses turned on. Historically, it would have been extremely difficult to conquer and occupy the entire Soviet Union. There is no reason AI Germany should be taking land beyond the Ural Mountains, so when they do, it’s super immersion-breaking.

  • @Stallins_ALT

    @Stallins_ALT

    8 ай бұрын

    im grateful as i... ignore my profile pic and name (i dont want border gore and russian shenanigans even tho they lost) it also spares pc's

  • @tmartin34
    @tmartin3411 ай бұрын

    I hate when I have to fight whole world just because of my claim on some small teritory ,even just because I want to reclaim my core but no , you have to fight whole war instead of option to end war after you just grab that small part of land (even from minor) and instantly you are at war with major faction so you have to beat most of the world for one piece of land

  • @martinsemov2376

    @martinsemov2376

    11 ай бұрын

    Playing with Bulgaria...

  • @joebidengaming6329

    @joebidengaming6329

    10 ай бұрын

    There really should be an territorial ultimatum mechanic. an interface that lets you select states to demand and send an ultimatum. itd probably be very cheeseable if its based on division calculated strength but theres probably a way to balance it. there should be a modifier for major nations to not accept because it shouldnt be possible to get land from the UK or USSR when you are Iran. for minors though this would be very useful. and the 10% world tension limit for UK guarantees should really be raised a bit.

  • @dizzypukas8410
    @dizzypukas841011 ай бұрын

    Something I hate is when your expanding as a small nation and the country your fighting just joins a faction (mostly allies) so now your at war with everyone

  • @brok8085
    @brok808511 ай бұрын

    You can use reorganize the railway system only once, it works for only 3 months and when you build 3 supply hubs, i cancels

  • @ryanhayward7875
    @ryanhayward787511 ай бұрын

    I can't understand why you can take civilian trains when your country doesn't know what a train it. Also some countries in hoi4 know how to make a tank before a truck.

  • @abokadohoi4

    @abokadohoi4

    11 ай бұрын

    Yup like Poland in the last video lol

  • @ravenouself4181

    @ravenouself4181

    11 ай бұрын

    Tbh, Trains did come before Trucks, Historically.

  • @therealmuthaphukkin.g
    @therealmuthaphukkin.g11 ай бұрын

    I hate when you take territory the front line assigned to an Army after a pile or two just goes bananas and extends to unimaginable front line sometimes on the entire front and messes up my whole plan... I dont play by just field marshal front line my armies i assign each army to take different obiectives just like IRL but NO when my panzers breakthrough their front line stretches from 1 - 2 tiles to THE WHOLE FRONT and i have to manually shorten each front line for each advancement...... Ugh

  • @MatthewChenault
    @MatthewChenault11 ай бұрын

    Supply isn’t really that bad. You can always get around supply hubs by building ports along the coast and then setting them to motorized.

  • @squidthesquid1233

    @squidthesquid1233

    10 ай бұрын

    Its still stupid. How does a full port cost LESS than a train station. makes absolutely no sense.

  • @dorimeameno5514

    @dorimeameno5514

    9 ай бұрын

    the bad thing is when you're a landlocked nation like communist china or Austria it doesn't work

  • @CatfoodChronicles6737
    @CatfoodChronicles673711 ай бұрын

    I’ve used conditional surrender only once, when I started playing and the Netherlands declared war against me when I wasn’t prepared and started rampaging through my country. It said they would accept a conditional surrender, so I pressed it and that was the only time so far.

  • @deppkcong
    @deppkcong11 ай бұрын

    the worst thing about the undeletable units, especially from italy is, that when you have them as a puppet and then decide to annex them you cant even click the decision that disbands all of them anymore. And considering you get an italian puppet like almost every single time you invade them that is so fricking annoying

  • @user-kw8zr2oj4u
    @user-kw8zr2oj4u11 ай бұрын

    The only thing I hate the most about this game is having to buy dlcs and more the new logistics system in the war area is a bit tedious having to build supplies and sometimes they take too long

  • @randomperson-sc6ui
    @randomperson-sc6ui11 ай бұрын

    you forgot to add the allies navel invading you like 2,000 times every game unless you have 40 port guards

  • @abokadohoi4

    @abokadohoi4

    11 ай бұрын

    Yup, them and Japan

  • @shartplayer78
    @shartplayer7811 ай бұрын

    Maybe it’s because I’m a more old fashioned player cause I’ve been playing since death or dishonor, but I literally hate that when you’re doing agency upgrades that when you finish it there’s no pop-up at the top like free research slots cause I just click off everything man 😩

  • @rainbowappleslice
    @rainbowappleslice11 ай бұрын

    One thing I hate is how there are some notifications you just can’t turn off. I don’t need a notification for every single tiny country that’s part of the allies joining the war against me

  • @awddfg
    @awddfg2 ай бұрын

    Having military access to a country and not being able to use the other country's airbases

  • @euginarex5649
    @euginarex56499 ай бұрын

    Supply hub's big cost makes them more "strategically important" objects that you can't build fast enough for your advancing army. You have to fight for them (or in MP, defend them fiercely)

  • @dorimeameno5514

    @dorimeameno5514

    9 ай бұрын

    it still isn't realistic, like how in the hell just building a station to unload guns n shit costs more than building 3 entire factories from the ground?

  • @muhammadyudhi1338
    @muhammadyudhi133811 ай бұрын

    And also achievement Tojo shot first was really frustating, because to get this achievement you have to played as Japan and then nuked the american core teritory before you get nuked by american. The frustating from this achievement, that's because Japan didn't have national focus that's can boost atomic research, the only man can boost atomic research for Japan was Nishio for 10%

  • @F.R.E.D.D2986
    @F.R.E.D.D298611 ай бұрын

    0:17 There I am! And that's my five seconds of fame

  • @F.R.E.D.D2986

    @F.R.E.D.D2986

    11 ай бұрын

    Although, yes, supply is always the worse thing in Hoi4.

  • @deadpan2866
    @deadpan2866Ай бұрын

    one of the reasons i stopped playing hoi was because paradox dont test how focuses effect other countries. two examples are britian and australia. 1. as the uk you suddenly lose political power because mexico has a focus that kicks out british oil companies. before mexico does that britian doesnt get a bonus to oil exports or even takes a oil export debuff from mexico, it just loses political power when 99% of the time, britian wont import mexican oil anyway. secondly, if britian goes anything but democratic, austrlia has half its focus tree locked off, thing is that part of the focus tree is everything to do with industry and research. i honestly think paradox dont play test hoi4 outside of germany and the ussr anywhere near enough than they should.

  • @maxxedout2563
    @maxxedout256311 ай бұрын

    Frontlines not flippin working! They are just randomly changing 😢

  • @abokadohoi4

    @abokadohoi4

    11 ай бұрын

    Especially circular front lines, as well as when you’re fighting with another faction in the same war

  • @Edreinadar
    @Edreinadar7 ай бұрын

    the problem with the conditional surrender button is that its for YOU to surrender, not the enemy so its pretty useless even if they agree and the times they do agree you need to be in the losing side

  • @Kalbot84
    @Kalbot842 ай бұрын

    The best way to deal with un-deletable units is to naval invade them into an enemy tile with no harbour and forget about them

  • @dorimeameno5514
    @dorimeameno55149 ай бұрын

    The worst thing is focuses that give literal debuffs, like why the hell would i take a focus just to be punished?

  • @nikolica12q9
    @nikolica12q911 ай бұрын

    15 min ago Anyways great video! One of my suggestion is when you get constantly convoy raided like as minor nation

  • @lordfreezer9550
    @lordfreezer955011 ай бұрын

    I've heard the game is oriented towards total war, that is annihilation war until total victory or total defeat, I understand that point of view but it shouldnt be a general rule but stablish some groups of countries that would be more inclined to accept peace even at low surrender progress, ideology could have a small effect on peace accepting, it makes sense for Soviets and Germany and even UK or USA to want to fight till the last drop of blood, but Brazil? Peru? Chile? Or even Italy which they currently have tweaked to depose Mussolini after losing some cores,

  • @kakhasukhitashvili5617
    @kakhasukhitashvili56179 ай бұрын

    I used conditional surrender once, when a nation just randomly declared war on me (in vanilla game) and I was so annoyed I used "yesman" and game just assumed I had lost and my country got annexed, even those I was germany and enemy was netherlands(maybe)

  • @otamabinladen6005
    @otamabinladen600511 ай бұрын

    One of the most annoying things about this game is trying to switch ideologies with the default focus tree. God forbid that you are democratic, or else you might have to wait longer than a year doing absolutely nothing while the ideology support slowly increases.

  • @_ChemicalBird
    @_ChemicalBird11 ай бұрын

    I was playing as the soviets and i assigned some railway guns to an army staitoned near konigsberg an they kept moving to the port and going through sea to memel and reapeating that

  • @MrRNG
    @MrRNG11 ай бұрын

    I remembered my allies ai eating my supply, but that frontline is just for me to operate damnit. And if i outnumbered my allies number in the frontline, its still stand still completely eating my supply

  • @catfacecat.

    @catfacecat.

    9 ай бұрын

    Turn off allied supply in the supply map mode

  • @3rg025
    @3rg02511 ай бұрын

    if you wait a little after dlcs come out you can buy them for 5-6 euros at max on key shops

  • @bratannis7913
    @bratannis79134 ай бұрын

    And when AI spamming divisions it dont has problems with supply unlike player in such situation

  • @weirdland4902
    @weirdland49028 ай бұрын

    I conditional surrendered as Soviet Union once when I was at a stalemate in the dniper and lost Moscow Leningrad and Stalingrad and my entire army ceased to exist

  • @georgiaballanimationandmapping
    @georgiaballanimationandmapping11 ай бұрын

    mention this in the pt3: When Germany makes F*ck ton of railway guns

  • @justyes1234
    @justyes123410 ай бұрын

    at 0:17 F.R.ED.D 2986 was there for a split second. Watch his videos he goes through pain with hoi4 day by day. He deserves more subs.

  • @lukalolleonardo4797
    @lukalolleonardo479710 ай бұрын

    The ai divison spam is real one game I inflicted more then 100 million casualties and I wasn't farming them

  • @rainbowappleslice
    @rainbowappleslice11 ай бұрын

    The Italian Colonial divisions can be disbanded after getting the colonial management focus

  • @ChalleonPlays
    @ChalleonPlays11 ай бұрын

    I have one for part 3. Themselves

  • @SidorovichGaming
    @SidorovichGaming11 ай бұрын

    Just pirate DLCs if you want, Paradox overprice them anyways

  • @truelightningstriker5803
    @truelightningstriker580311 ай бұрын

    Being unable to join factions. Example being Brazil not allowed to join the allies unless they are democratic.

  • @TruePolishGuy
    @TruePolishGuy11 ай бұрын

    Lol I was about to do go ahead macau my day achivement run

  • @bruhovmenepta
    @bruhovmenepta11 ай бұрын

    The dumbest thing about HOI4 is when you almost capitulate a country and they join some kind of alliance, that's the BIGGEST STUPIDITY IN THE GAME

  • @Brasil713
    @Brasil71311 ай бұрын

    Come to Brazil plz ❤

  • @fuzztsimmers3415
    @fuzztsimmers341511 ай бұрын

    Forgot factions in general if im not on historical it should be possible to turn them off

  • @geicolizard6776
    @geicolizard67762 ай бұрын

    The Japanese Focus Tree

  • @ryanhayward7875
    @ryanhayward787511 ай бұрын

    Yay

  • @giovannidevincenzi3376
    @giovannidevincenzi33767 ай бұрын

    1:11 Yep. Like how I had to spend 20€ for TFV for the right of being able to have puppets as a democracy by virtue of the 'release as puppet' button in the occupied territories tab. Also, I fully stand by the opinion that, rather than mods, player-led peace conferences and toolpack should straight up be base game features which you can choose to toggle on and off when you're playing solo. Because f***k the AI and the retarded as f***k war score system. Some time ago I was playing monarchist Germany shortly after By blood alone had dropped: I flipped Italy to my side, started and swiftly won WW2, then the peace conference happened and, because I had taken extremely low casualties, while the Italians were headbutting the Western Alps and getting butchered in Africa the whole time, I literally did not manage to take a single f***ing tile. I despise the AI.

  • @declangaming24
    @declangaming2411 ай бұрын

    I don't like how basic stuff requires dlc take navy, more focuses ect when paradox make HOI5 they need to make HOI4 dlc free otherwise people will use mods like myself

  • @To6k0_

    @To6k0_

    11 ай бұрын

    just crack the game with all of the dlcs

  • @tuluppampam
    @tuluppampam11 ай бұрын

    Trains are something that predates ww2 by a lot, and somehow there are still countried that have to research them I can understand Nepal and Bhutan, but why should countries like Siam have to research them?

  • @abokadohoi4

    @abokadohoi4

    11 ай бұрын

    Ikr

  • @rob2540
    @rob254010 ай бұрын

    I hate that you have to design 50 tank and 50 planes and I just quit hoi 4 singleplayer because i cant handle macroing air navy and land

  • @mikelangelo1232
    @mikelangelo123210 ай бұрын

    When ai spams planes

  • @Sovietcomrade45
    @Sovietcomrade452 ай бұрын

    Ok paradox I understand the need for dlc but why do we need to have a dlc TO FUCKING EQUIP SUPER BATTLESHIPS like at that point there isn’t no point in having them without dlc

  • @gopherasoda2492
    @gopherasoda249211 ай бұрын

    I find this game to be amazing conceptually, allowing for us deranged nerds to have fun. But Holy Shit if the mechanics and executation aren't god awful!

  • @JELONGreatMrRed
    @JELONGreatMrRedАй бұрын

    This is why i use better mechanics mod.

  • @toolboxnj
    @toolboxnj11 ай бұрын

    $20 isn't a lot man

  • @parallax9084
    @parallax908411 ай бұрын

    just pirate the dlc

  • @zhivko-sr8gq

    @zhivko-sr8gq

    16 күн бұрын

    It's quite hard though

  • @Speznas7rus
    @Speznas7rus11 ай бұрын

    Im gay

  • @williamsmeds1368
    @williamsmeds136811 ай бұрын

    I hate the awful DLC reliant model. A full priced game should not come with hundreds of dollars worth of DLC and expansions. I'd gladly buy the game itself, if it was a full game, instead of a barebones husk that requires DLC to be fun. This is why no one should feel ashamed when pirating this game.

  • @Idoexist._.
    @Idoexist._.11 ай бұрын

    "And all of those undeleteble divisions.. not even nearly good! "Points at sefari" Sefari can be disbanded if im not mistaken. "Ethiopia pros on their way to tell him that those irregulara eat smol amount of supply amd have nice focuses_ideas" "Shitty ass colonial divisions" Man there is button right there when you take thiopia "disband colonial" Whoch removes colonial divs... Seems like yo never read italy and eth's stuff

  • @soypobre123
    @soypobre12311 ай бұрын

    youyou forgot about the 69 infantry slots used, and that while you have Tanks, Artillery, AA, Anti tank, they beat you just for having more than 90k Manpower