While Momoland’s company was very shitty, she didnt specify which company had the diet award. She trained at multiple companies as a trainee ‼️
@JEWEL_CY
Ай бұрын
MLD IS WORST
@Oficial_Queendom
Ай бұрын
@@JEWEL_CY hi ninny fr her company is the worst
@soumyaprajith4710Ай бұрын
"Diet Award" this is so sad and disgusting :(
@ramiiibm
Ай бұрын
Nah
@potatoavocado9933
Ай бұрын
@@ramiiibmyes most of them are already super skinny promoting a “diet award” is basically encouraging eating disorders at that point.
@ramiiibm
Ай бұрын
@@potatoavocado9933 nope
@haevix
Ай бұрын
@seveteensBIGGESTfanTo clear things up, She didn’t specify which company it was because she was a trainee at multiple companies ‼️
@ree8698
Ай бұрын
Diet award will honestly make the diet more motivating. The society demands idols to be skinny imo, not the industry. Idols who looks heavier than the norm when debut won't succeed, guaranteed. As we see, even the current one if gaining weight will be called lazy by the netizens, and labelled like 'they look like ordinary human, not idol' lol Except when you're a boy group, they won't be criticized as much
@ferrerosieАй бұрын
It’s quite shocking how even literal part-time jobs pay more than being a K-Pop idol. I think this applies to idols like Chuu and Daisy herself.
@ButterflySUB
Ай бұрын
The whole fromis_9 & loona suffered from this.
@sss-pw3rt
Ай бұрын
Its a quiet predictable outcome as the current market is flooded with idols whose's groups are having a shorter and shorter shelf life.
@vuvieons
Ай бұрын
Not only chuu but whole loona. Get that in ur brain
@ButterflySUB
Ай бұрын
@@sss-pw3rt yes that's right. But loona or fromis_9 or momoland weren't nugu groups. They were mistreated.
@Vixensubss
Ай бұрын
it really depends on the company. some companies, like jyp, don’t have training debt, meaning the idols get payed immediately, or close to debut, whereas smaller companies like MLD have no choice but to give debt.
@KpopdittoАй бұрын
*"The Diet Award"* really makes me feel sick 😷
@user-se9wo4eu9s
Ай бұрын
Real
@4K-JisooniieАй бұрын
That's actually so fked up the company doesn't know what they're doing with idols
@B33nSprowt
Ай бұрын
Oh they know what they’re doing lmao they just don’t give a shit
@aerabyeol
Ай бұрын
As former K-pop trainine I have never heard of this before this is disgusting
@aimeeclarkson-williams3706
Ай бұрын
@@aerabyeol really? 🤨
@patrickkenyon2326
Ай бұрын
They know EXACTLY what they are doing. The lives of these young girls mean nothing to them. As long as the girls bring in money, the executives don't care if they starve.
@Dashomin
Ай бұрын
Oh they know but they don’t care. I was a professional figure skater in Russia the trainers would break you down at a very young age and separate you from your parents so you depend on them that they are your “mother or father” I would starve nearly everyday. Trust me they 100 percent no 1000 percent know what they are doing but they do not care. The diet awards is another sick way for motivation so you will have more motivation to diet
@Enhypen_ITZYАй бұрын
Its quite sad that she hardly ever made money even after all the hard work
@metho8662
Ай бұрын
She said that the reason was bc she was in debt. Otherwise shebwould have been paid really well
@Enhypen_ITZY
Ай бұрын
@@metho8662 I k ow but still damn
@alcidesprieto1967
Ай бұрын
You always be in debt with these companies.
@ChibiDesigns
Ай бұрын
@@metho8662especially with small companies they will always add random debts and not give the idols the breakdown so they have no idea how much each event is costing them to go to. An ex-crayon pop member did an interview that their company added thousands in debt every time they went to an overseas schedule
@Xonatirose
Ай бұрын
@@metho8662 most companies put the expenses of MVs, transportation, and hair and makeup onto the idols as debt so there was probably no way she would’ve made money in that company.
@hilaholo6822Ай бұрын
For line distribution, it's kinda true. I think Suju already share their opinion bout this, especially Heechul. He's happy that he paid the same as KRY while having much more less line than them 😅 Less energy more money
@dinahgraham4964
Ай бұрын
Wish everglow fans would learn this and shut up.
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
In the case of Heechul, from what I know, it is a little different because after his car accident, he couldn't do hard and strong choreography. So he told the members not to make it easy because of him, and they agreed to do that. He continues participating in the songs, just making a small appearance and rarely participating in the dance. Or at least that is what i know and have heard as a long time fan.
@Bunnybunny5656
Ай бұрын
@@dinahgraham4964ohh your worried about everglow? Try Jeongyeon solo stand. They are the most unbearable people to grace kpop
@zoi7582
Ай бұрын
Depends on the idol some might feel like less lines are limiting their potential or the kind they're supposed to get because they're capable constantly goes other members
@DRAMATICJELLYBEAN
29 күн бұрын
It depends on the person but I totally see it. As someone who does theater I like having roles where I have some but not a lot of lines, it’s less to learn and memorize 🤷♀️
@user-zj5jp8zc1jАй бұрын
Fans are soooo obsessed with line distribution it’s actually embarrassing cuz they don’t even know what they’re talking about. And yeah I feel like if I was in a Kpop group and I knew I couldn’t sing as well as the other members, I wouldn’t want as much/more lines than them 😭.
@sparklight0964
Ай бұрын
Exactly! Fans who obsess over line distribution are either anti’s or they only care about their ‘favorite’ member
@deannaw9128
Ай бұрын
If you cannot sing you shouldn't be able to call yourself a singer
@dips92
Ай бұрын
@deannaw9128 they're idol with many positions rapper, dancer, vocalist and visuals and each idol should be best in their positions while also have the skills for other things since 3rd generation, fans are more obsessed with dancers while visuals are always the top priority and the vocalist of a group is always an underrated gem.
@Nunu_bear
Ай бұрын
@@deannaw9128where did they say the words singer?
@hadrianhexe9603
Ай бұрын
@dips92 Exactly, people really act like Idols is blanket term for someone who performs. Like there's a reason there's different positions
@soumyaprajith4710Ай бұрын
Idol life isnt all Sunshine and Rainbows like some people believe to be Hats off to all these idols ♡
@aerabyeol
Ай бұрын
As a ex K-pop training, I’ve never heard of a diet award in my life. This is disgusting. Someone should shut down that company.
@soumyaprajith4710
Ай бұрын
@@aerabyeol oh my you were? Under which company?
@AngelleAnnie-cs1te
Ай бұрын
Really? Which company @@aerabyeol
@aerabyeol
Ай бұрын
@@soumyaprajith4710 I trained under JYP, hybe and FNC. My most recent JYP which I stayed Untill I left because of health problems. I will coke back when I complete my surgery.
@aerabyeol
Ай бұрын
@@AngelleAnnie-cs1te fnc, JYP and hybe
@mad_hatter7956Ай бұрын
The "line distribution" reminds me of what Zi Tao (former EXO member) said to chinese trainess from a show. He said they (his members) didn't even fight for line distribution because it's better to give more lines to famous members in order to get more attention for their group. And about the trainess' debt, sometimes or most of the time, idols who debuted didn't get proper or enough pay until a year or two because of how big it is and sometimes it used as a reason for companies to cheat them even though their (kpop groups) groups are famous and have enough income to payed their debt. The company will tell the idols that it's not yet enough or they not finish paying yet and that will be the reason why idols will work harder, making them sick and tired just to pay them in order to get what they work for not knowing that the company was just use them as a cash cow.
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
That should be regulated, i think that is more important that the chores thing that around now, also the debuting minor and the unhealthy diets and schedules.
@alexia3552
6 күн бұрын
Idols need unions and SK needs more comprehensive labor laws *and enforcement*
@Jeon__JungKooKieАй бұрын
At last someone talking about lesser line distributions because I'm sick of all the fans saying the company isn't treating thuer idols better just cuz of that
@demirababaria
Ай бұрын
Yea frr
@LyraReid
Ай бұрын
Some of their faves can't sing or rap that's probably why they don't get many lines.
@Jeon__JungKooKie
Ай бұрын
@@LyraReid that's kinda rude but true :)
@supercalifragilisticexpialido6
Ай бұрын
Exactly, the members with least lines are mostly the worst singers of the group and 2nd of all line distribution is all about how much you fit the song and whether you are capable to do those notes
@brennathecatlover4360
Ай бұрын
@@supercalifragilisticexpialido6not necessarily tho there’s great singers that don’t get shit either but maybe their voices just don’t fit a particular song
@sunshinehope9825Ай бұрын
I'm not talking about specific idols, but I bet idols who are not that great of a vocalist would love having fewer lines, especially if the group consists of more than 5 members. MV/Live screen time is better than having more lines. There have always been at least one or two members that are not that great at singing, even since 2nd gen. But companies did a great job at not revealing it too much. Nowadays groups don't have clear positions of who is who and fans campaigned for idols to have even lines, the lesser vocalist is more apparent now.
@nemomagnumАй бұрын
I definitely remember someone else talking about the diet awards as well
@sofia2galeano891Ай бұрын
Bruh not one single momoland clip, bruh
@_iloveuandme_Ай бұрын
Momoland was mistreated so badly and not paying enough is another concern. The trainee awards could be based off talent or something but why diet??? Also forcing an idol to change their choices, personality is sooooo far….and yes line distribution is not a major problem as long as the members are okay with it….as the creator mentioned it varies with idol and not everyone would have experienced the same….
@goldenhime8404
Ай бұрын
K-pop is mostly not about talents, that's why most of K-pop is sh#t
@matildenordqvist2158Ай бұрын
Daisy seems like such a chill person, I follow her TikTok
@medivergeАй бұрын
please do not turn this into the 36 thing. this is based off HER OWN EXPERIENCES it does not speak for everyone especially not big3 idols
@Theycallmeqis
Ай бұрын
That exactly what she said
@tulipmars
Ай бұрын
literally what they said. learn to listen before you get defensive.
@mediverge
Ай бұрын
@@tulipmars i did. im reminding othrrs again because clearly people have no sense of media literacy when it comes to shorts.
@supercalifragilisticexpialido6
Ай бұрын
Big 3. Momo ?
@txgbatrz
Ай бұрын
this speaks for idols from big3/4 too it has nothing to do with how big the company is if a company is shit its shit
@ruehlstudАй бұрын
The diet award that fits the appeal of fans and industry.
@haetokki245Ай бұрын
Thats actually so sad
@kpopzie_officialАй бұрын
You know there's a reason why *MLD Entertainment* was named as *"The Worst Company of Kpop"*
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
It wasn't cube 😂😂, actually don't know but there're a lot bad companies for different reasons, i don't know how pick the worst one, truly sad for the artists 😢
@kkukkungie8018
Ай бұрын
@@danilecanda125 cube is bad don't get me wrong but MLD is for sure worse than cube by a long run. also usually idols end up in the companies they're in because they want to debut. you can't really be picky at that point
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
@@kkukkungie8018 yeah, i get that, a lot of trainees change from "good" companies to the really "bad" ones, because they want to debut and in the other they see it as impossible, is kinda sad. But in the long time i have been following kpop, there's is a lot of news and stories that sound like true horror stories, like the case of G.NA and cube, i don't remember the group but they were physically abused by the CEO, companies that forced their idols and trainees (men and woman, adults and underage) to served alcohol and "entertained" importan business man and investors all night and a lot of other things. Sometime i think if there's a point in an idol life that they sit down and think, Whether it was worth it for everything they went through to get to where they are or not, especially with groups that don't become well-known or successful.
@kpopzie_official
Ай бұрын
@@danilecanda125 Cube is Second on The List
@ranran_dv
Ай бұрын
@@kpopzie_official there are a lot of companies way worse, but just too unknown At least Cube idols have freedom ig
@adebayobolutife5316Ай бұрын
Daisy should please become the Stephanie Soo of Kpop because I need more on that "diet award"
@-N1K0LX-
Ай бұрын
She should
@iam-felixswife
27 күн бұрын
who’s stephanie soo
@althearodriguez6902Ай бұрын
Wow i can't believe they mistreated my fav group when i was a kid
@ourglass488Ай бұрын
REMINDER: Daisy doesn't speak for every idol but that is her personal experience.
@minhha301Ай бұрын
The hell? Talk about momoland but doesn't even show the actually group instead a bunch of other groups.
@furrycheetah
21 күн бұрын
But at least we know the darkside of Kpop industry rightnow
@TheLurkingDermАй бұрын
The only thing that matters with line distribution is who sings on the chorus. For certain agencies (HYBE is one), whoever sings on the chorus gets a bigger cut financially. But since that is only for song royalties, it adds up to very little anyway.
@eloxoxo222Ай бұрын
the line distribution is definitely her own experience, an example is chaeyoung from twice who used to cry because of having few lines
@theamazingnarku
Ай бұрын
She must had cried a lot cuz she still dont get lines. Twice lines really only go to Nayeon n occasionally Mina n Jihyo. Its a shame that lines can be unfair. I heard some where else someone who was an idol didn’t care for lines. But someone else they spoke with didn’t want a lot either. But def there are idols who want more n others that want less.
@hilaholo6822
Ай бұрын
But Heechul share the same experience as he said, he's happy he get less line, since it's more less energy more money
@eloxoxo222
Ай бұрын
@@hilaholo6822 every idol can have different experiences, while daisy and heechul may feel like it’s less of a burden chaeyoung already confessed she cried because of it
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
@@hilaholo6822In the case of Heechul, from what I know, it is a little different because after his car accident, he couldn't do hard and strong choreography. So he told the members not to make it easy because of him, and they agreed to do that. He continues participating in the songs, just making a small appearance and rarely participating in the dance. Or at least that is what i know and have heard as a long time fan.
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
There're some idol who ask to have more lines and other to have less, but in the end is the company decision.
@ShootingStarStudioАй бұрын
I totally get enjoying having less lines. For one, 4th gen choreos, especially for girl groups, are hella intense, so with less lines, you can focus on dancing. For another, if you have more lines, it tires you out more. Sometimes it’s nice to not be front and center all the time.
@zoi7582
Ай бұрын
I think majority of these go for idols who didn't sign up to be singers but for idols who did and are capable constantly getting over looked in line distribution as it goes to popular members can be annoying
@AitaitaitaiАй бұрын
Sooyoung of GG is the first person who comes to mind whenever people talk about line distribution and how much she fought with SM to get more lines
@dongysakura418
Ай бұрын
And she can actually sing
@eu-san2378Ай бұрын
MLD entertainment is probably treating Lapillus the same.
@L.G.127Ай бұрын
One of the reason I like Daisy is that she will be honest af and I love her for that
@kateemma22Ай бұрын
First Hanse now Daisy dropping details. SPILL ALL THE TEA, IDOLS!
@Rose0004Ай бұрын
Not all that glitters is gold.
@neonotcultured
Ай бұрын
Especially when you're from a poor/small company that can get away with such mistreatment
@MeD-ex8mzАй бұрын
Just as a fact for people who don't know, smaller companies have the trainee debts to make up for the costs of training them and debuting the group, but big companies (like the big 3 + Hybe) don't have this debt as the companies have enough money so even if the idols fail, they won't exactly go bankrupt (except maybe YG cuz they don't make as many groups. I'm not sure)
@zoi7582
Ай бұрын
YGE definitely won't go bankrupt
@Luks228Ай бұрын
Daisy is all that is good in this world... Glad she overcomed it 💜
@ejirim2639Ай бұрын
that is true! thx for saying that!
@izami9963Ай бұрын
YES diet award sounds depressing and disgusting but realistically that "diet award" exists because "FANS EXPECTATIONS TO IDOLS" ARE TO HIGH SO FOR THEM "SKINNY IS THE STANDARD" BODY SHAPE FOR IDOLS.. Healthy body shapes for them are unexpectable, they end up getting a lot of hate and criticism.. Sad but it's true
@yari139Ай бұрын
Damn. Y’all now discovering this?? Like she’s been posting about her life in Momoland for AGES now. This is old news.
@aimeeclarkson-williams3706Ай бұрын
"Diet award"? Seriously? How worse can things get?
@sss-pw3rt
Ай бұрын
i don't see why a diet award is bad.
@Imowlek
Ай бұрын
@@sss-pw3rt👎🏻
@iam-felixswife
27 күн бұрын
@@sss-pw3rtsame i would be so happy, where’s mine im 32kg i need a diet award
@JZL-hp5izАй бұрын
I feel like this is very unsurprising. If you were a fan of K-pop back in the day when like AOA was at their Hay Day and fnc was like a bigger name than it is now as a company you would know that they did like a reality show with the girls and they were on diets I remember them being like weighed in front of the staff and everyone on camera while they filmed it and then they told her they were allowed to eat food while the other girls got like chicken and stuff they got like a potato and some salad because they didn't lose enough weight. I've also seen other X trainees come out and talk about how they would get weighed in front of everyone they basically have a scale in the front and everyone would have to walk up get weed and then they would tell you if you lost or gained weight in front of everybody. In terms of money unless you come from one of the big companies in your group is super popular as soon as you debut you're actually just gaining debt which is kind of sad. But I also feel like you have to understand that companies do this on purpose. Like if they have you in debt to them and you can make them a bunch of money they'll do that. Not to mention I feel like the only way for a smaller group to make a lot of money is that they somehow managed to get ambassador ships because those are normally a pretty penny you're talking a couple hundred thousands of dollars just to get a celebrity sign on even if it is like a smaller idol because it would be opening up the Korean market. And that would be just pure income because the company is not paying for anything so they would just deduct however much money they need to from your paycheck.
@Ria-vj3chАй бұрын
In entertainment, is the paying off the debt thing a regular thing, or is it only for kpop??
@isaacsamuel997
Ай бұрын
usually only kpop
@SonnyDiBartolo
Ай бұрын
It’s only K-pop, American record labels are extremely different
@armyonce6962
Ай бұрын
^^american (&most other countries) labels don’t have debt because they don’t have a trainee system. the debt in kpop comes from training and living expenses the company pays for predebut
@SonnyDiBartolo
Ай бұрын
@@armyonce6962 your right, but some American labels (if they scout groups) choose to do free training and basically just prepare them for debut rather than like extensive training. However if a soloist is scouted they can do whatever
@leafissimile
Ай бұрын
American record labels are infamous for getting new artists to sign bad contracts. Instead of training, it's fees and salaries for recording studios, production, managers, etc. They're meant to pay it off from album sales, but it adds up to so much, the artists can end up with next to nothing if they're not careful.
@_princesslunaАй бұрын
if i was an idol having less lines is like a miracle, id rather stay out of the spotlight than be overworked to death. on the other hand what in the fuck is a diet award?? do trainees collect awards as if they’re pokemons??? why do companies have to treat their idols like dolls??
@eduardoordonez241Ай бұрын
Dam that’s disgusting, please think before auditioning
@sua_7323Ай бұрын
Daisy said but you didn't use her photo or vid even a single one lol so disappointed
@kaylachung12Ай бұрын
Remember when SISTAR Soyou showed on “Happy Together” how girls helped reduce their weight during weigh-ins by holding their hair in ponytails and then basically PULLING IT so it didn’t seem like they had more weight? No? I do.
@jade5202
Ай бұрын
that's exaggerated. Hair's weight is negligible
@kaylachung12
Ай бұрын
@@jade5202 I feel like you should go watch the clip so you can understand what I mean because it doesn’t sound like you do. Idk which episode number it is but SISTAR, HyunA, and I think. Henry and Amber were on it.
@kkkiwiАй бұрын
imo, these poor girls really should get some real life sense before committing to career of kpop idols. if you are not good enough for the big3 - fuck it up, lets find a more reasonable job to do. there are plenty of advantages that you could get only at big companies. they charge less payments and your debut is 100% payback in like first three months. you will always have a better promotions and career choices in a long term, access to luxury brands as well. the quality of music, style and how others treat you is just different. smaller companies will get you in debt for sure and you can never earn enough money to live it rich and effortless. they usually heavily exploit their idols, but chances of your success are so low it all would be more like a nightmare than a dream. dozens of different nugu groups debuting each year, but in the world of big3 influence they are literally nothing. i pity them and at the same time don’t understand this dreamy look about being an idol.
@TaeunnieАй бұрын
Trainees can be as young as 10 years old and most of them aren't passed their teens so having a "diet award" is so messed up
@Cookitlikeastirfry10 күн бұрын
Having debt to a company when you are literally the reason the company makes money is so unfair
@moa_stay_armyyАй бұрын
The first one is so disgusting
@wulanyunitaaАй бұрын
i would understand if the line difference is in small percentage, or at least a proper senteces. but in a case the idol only sang "hey!" "lalalala" or one or two random word i think its a problem
@deanab-se5op
Ай бұрын
And lalala is just a backtrack so these sub vocalists just lip sync 😫
@ChikaFurami4 күн бұрын
The few lines makes sense some idols can’t sing and probably ask for few lines so they can be known for dancing more but it’s sad when they do know how to sing and get few lines
@paulahowlett845220 күн бұрын
These companies practically have these idols in servitude. They don't care about the people just the money
@prst9922 күн бұрын
It’s criminal that entertainment companies treat training cost as the employee debt.
@vlad504213 күн бұрын
aside from the more shocking stuff, i already kinda suspected the lines thing lol. having more lines doesn't always seem to correlate w popularity and i can imagine it feels like a lot of pressure if you're singing like half the song but still have to do the same choreo as everyone else
@thequeenofallbts_stansАй бұрын
Wow that’s crazy and sad 😢
@milktea2422Ай бұрын
Are anyone else wondering how idols are getting charged 150,000 for training? I’m dead serious when I say that I think what they get isn’t that expensive. Dance lessons, vocal lessons, and some other things depending on your situation. Like do you live in the dorms or do you live at your parents house? Do you eat (nothing) at the company or do you eat what you’re parents made you. Like how are idols that much in debt?
@azulmv
Ай бұрын
Well most of the idols in the industry trained for years so everything you mentioned, multiply it for 5. Some trainees not even debut as idols so they never paid their debt.
@aerapark4982Ай бұрын
That’s the same I’ve been thinking about the line distribution. The fewer lines some people get, the less they need to worry about singing live
@twicatcherАй бұрын
daisy didn't complain about fewer lines but sooyoung did so line distribution is a big deal
@cowuie
Ай бұрын
no, again, like daisy said it isnt the same for all people. le sserafim’s sakura said she personally requested to not have too many lines in their songs. just because its a big deal for one idol doesnt mean its a big deal for others and vice versa. one idol doesnt speak for all
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
Some idols ask to have more lines others to have less and others are okey just how it is or don't care, but in the end sadly is the company decision
@sss-pw3rt
Ай бұрын
@@danilecanda125 how is it sad its the companys decision?
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
@@sss-pw3rt Imagine that an idol wants to have more lines but the company tells him no, that's sad. or if an idol wants fewer lines, they say no and give them more
@sss-pw3rt
8 күн бұрын
@@danilecanda125 I guess its sad she has a boss....
@thath.i8 күн бұрын
But let's be honest, it depends on the company, some companies treat their idols well ....
@momofromtwiceloverАй бұрын
im glad they disbanded honestly. they dont deserve that
@chandreyeedas103328 күн бұрын
Title track worthy xD This actually felt like a comeback lmaoo Thank youu
@brennathecatlover4360Ай бұрын
I feel like for the most part companies will give lines to the idol that fits the song the best as obviously every idols voice will fit better for a different song or maybe they’re not as strong of a vocalist
@emmuzboosh26 күн бұрын
They rlly tried to save the male shorty feelings😭
@Luv_KpopUniverse18 күн бұрын
I feel that's why being in big companies like JYP,YG etc are good for debt bcz every company pays for their trainee to train them well and that debt the idol to pay once they debut but being in big company u can pay it all quickly bcz u get payed more. Diet award shouldn't be there I feel bcz a trainee life is one of the most exhausted life bcz u have to overwork so much then dieting skipping meals will make u unfit and its not good for ur health u can have medical issues. I feel like idols shall be free to express their opinions,choices rather than putting a choice the company wants them to say. Yeah, I feel having less lines ain't a issue for idols bcz u have less burden or u have to overwork than ur groupmates.But I also feel having too less lines ain't even that good bcz ur talent is hidden all the time. I also feel being a idol doesn't means the company will own you,bcz they will make you wear uncomfortable and unsecure clothes,getting surgeries even if u don't want to ur forced to.
@Yuki_Cookie33310 күн бұрын
S-class hate is so forced
@AlanaeImontae3 күн бұрын
They’re dang near pimping them! This is one of the first things that I found out upon joining my first fandom, back in 2014, & I immediately stopped stanning groups with terrible management. Since they’re treated like items, I felt their contracts may be terminated earlier if they lose fans. Not so sure how true that theory may be though.. I’d still support them individually of course!!❤
@anthonysolis3795Ай бұрын
Amazing dance performance 👏🏻😁 hard work on display
@theninearemine8499Күн бұрын
Don't think all the companies are like that. But, they all do one thing or another that I don't like. MOMO was told to lose X amount of weight in one week, if she wanted to debut with the group. She said - _"I felt so weak that when I went to sleep, I cried because I was scared that I wouldn't wake up in the morning."_
@aninterestinusernameАй бұрын
It’s ridiculous that idols have to pay their companies for training. Like I can see an argument for a company getting reimbursed for providing housing and meals, but in what world is it okay for a company to charge employees for training? Like imagine getting hired and your boss was like “ok your salary is $50k, the first month or two will be mostly training, for which you will be charged $70k”
@melekbasri1575
Ай бұрын
Because they are not employees yet, they are like students and they are training.
@aninterestinusername
Ай бұрын
@@melekbasri1575I guess, though I’d still argue that the ones that actually debut should have their debt cleared. But I’ve also heard of idols having to cover the cost of lessons even after they debut.
@myriamrakotomanga9628Ай бұрын
People always judge what they see on the screen, they think idols js dance and sing and have stages everyday but they go throught things like this everyday. Not all companies do all these things but a lot might do some of these things. Hybe groups rn are going throught a lot nowdays but everyone is critizicing them without even know the reason why they're doing bad, they hate the artists when it could also be the agency's fault
@romuloduarte46316 күн бұрын
This applies to Loona members too. Just because the company could “flex” with big mvs, each member got a solo debut and etc we thought everything was okay, when in reality the company holds their money to be in debt forever. K-pop is a shady business.
@vivianidelacerda970829 күн бұрын
Oh well, she made it after all ...
@haleighzaКүн бұрын
imo, screentime is far more relevant that line distribution. like, my bias only has 10 sec and the main vocalist has 30 ? okay that’s chill. but if you don’t actually SEE my bias in the music video until the second chorus, now we have an issue lmao.
@winterescene__Ай бұрын
The k-pop idol industry is the worst in the world
@teamvjmckblah1436Ай бұрын
They need some of that diet award here in the states.
@StxtssАй бұрын
Almost 100k!
@MelissaPalomino-um8et19 күн бұрын
If you are curious on how Daisy is doing she is 43 years old a mother of 3 and her ears are fake
@itanuuki18219 күн бұрын
So, do the trainees that never get to debut just have to pay all that debt off anyway? 😳
@harleyparker3388Ай бұрын
Putting Jisoo's face on line distribution part is kind of denying years of her fan's wish to see her get more lines when daisy said that it need not be true for every group.
@natoy718326 күн бұрын
Damn that company I swear to god if they ever do something to LAPILLUS 🤬
@user-se9wo4eu9sАй бұрын
This is disgusting,like legit "diet" Award?
@Belbecat28 күн бұрын
While diet award sounds bad, we know that all idols and trainees are forced to diet - at least when there's an award the one that does it the best gets something out of it I reckon... and I know from idols like Sakura and Jin, there definitely are idols that prefer less vocal lines so not surprised.
@emmuzboosh
26 күн бұрын
It’s less to award them and more to try make them diet even more lmao.
@simpshinwoowegoupup9585Ай бұрын
Hopefully mod treats their group right or else I am throwing hands I'd they touch anything wrong with hori7on
@raghadalashoor6650Ай бұрын
Maybe it comes from her personal experience but all of this actually exsist in all companies
@animetal420Ай бұрын
it was daisy who said this
@c.rewlove3 күн бұрын
who is here in 2024? 😢😢😢😢
@jacklastimosa2802Ай бұрын
Nice background vids...
@dfernandez3482Ай бұрын
Everyone was crazy about Nancy but JooE was my bias ☺
@user-og1mr7jz9b26 күн бұрын
What's the name of the group shown after Mina?
@chandreyeedas103328 күн бұрын
You really came in with Lisa's 'hottest' clip edits Aweisom
@deanab-se5opАй бұрын
The debt is normal especially for smaller conpanies. THAT'S WHY DO NOT NORMALISE DEBUTING YOUR CHILDREN AS K-POP IDOLS.
@profscarlett20 күн бұрын
But you don’t show Daisy on the video
@user-wz7kq2iy5eАй бұрын
Everyone acting like the debt thing is so unfathomable and evil fails to realise the deal is much better than going to college in most of the Western world. The average time it takes to repay a student debt is 21 years whereas, even with Momoland barely being a middling group at best, Daisy paid off her MUCH larger debt in under 4 years. She saw no money for herself in that time, but the company covered her costs for accomodation, food, clothes etc and she had easy access to numerous luxuries regular people have to work much longer to be able to afford or enjoy without going broke. I’d say that’s a great bloody deal from a company that invested over $100,000 into giving you a chance at becoming rich yourself. Even the diet thing… have y’all been living under a rock or something? Go to any ballet academy, go to any American football academy or even go to a youth football club over in England. Tough expectations on children in high competition fields is the norm around the world; it isn’t unique or especially bad in Kpop.
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
Both of the things that you said are true, it not like they don't have were to live or food or anything like that, is normal and logic that they have to "pay" the money that was invested in them (and don't come from their or family pockets either), and is not a small investment to train an idol, and people often forget that they know what they are getting in to, is not like they are forced to become an idol is their choice, and some group pay the debt faster than others, even are groups were some members paid their debt faster than the other members because solo activities, for example yoona of girls generation. And other thing, i don't know if still like that, but at les in the past idol have corporate cards, that they can used to pay food and other things. And the diet thing, is true that you can see it in a lot of disciplines, like ballet, gymnastics, boxing, american football and a lot of other ones. But i think that the problem is more because the extreme of them, and is not just in idols or korea, is in mostly all of the entertainment industry, like models, actors/actress and others, i remenber when models would eat cotton balls so they wouldn't feel hungry, and also the agencies will, beacuse they still do it, demand to the models to have certain measurements, chests, waist, hips and everything possible, so you can said that they have it worst. Even France in the 2000~2010 have to implement a law for fashion shows and brands to don't have models that were extremely skinny, because they were dying and it was a bad example for young children. Because of that nowadays model are skinny but not bones with skin like back then.
@dorino9057
Ай бұрын
Stop capping for these companies
@crazygirls.s.sАй бұрын
Guys kya aaplog ko aawaj sunai diya raat ko?
@whooopdeedoАй бұрын
who is the idol in the light blue and then red outfits that is being shown when the diet award is being discussed?
@stevenroy5711
Ай бұрын
Soojin an ex gidle member now a soloist
@whooopdeedo
Ай бұрын
@@stevenroy5711 thank you!
@dustylee21Ай бұрын
Things that she exposed about her company you mean
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While Momoland’s company was very shitty, she didnt specify which company had the diet award. She trained at multiple companies as a trainee ‼️
@JEWEL_CY
Ай бұрын
MLD IS WORST
@Oficial_Queendom
Ай бұрын
@@JEWEL_CY hi ninny fr her company is the worst
"Diet Award" this is so sad and disgusting :(
@ramiiibm
Ай бұрын
Nah
@potatoavocado9933
Ай бұрын
@@ramiiibmyes most of them are already super skinny promoting a “diet award” is basically encouraging eating disorders at that point.
@ramiiibm
Ай бұрын
@@potatoavocado9933 nope
@haevix
Ай бұрын
@seveteensBIGGESTfanTo clear things up, She didn’t specify which company it was because she was a trainee at multiple companies ‼️
@ree8698
Ай бұрын
Diet award will honestly make the diet more motivating. The society demands idols to be skinny imo, not the industry. Idols who looks heavier than the norm when debut won't succeed, guaranteed. As we see, even the current one if gaining weight will be called lazy by the netizens, and labelled like 'they look like ordinary human, not idol' lol Except when you're a boy group, they won't be criticized as much
It’s quite shocking how even literal part-time jobs pay more than being a K-Pop idol. I think this applies to idols like Chuu and Daisy herself.
@ButterflySUB
Ай бұрын
The whole fromis_9 & loona suffered from this.
@sss-pw3rt
Ай бұрын
Its a quiet predictable outcome as the current market is flooded with idols whose's groups are having a shorter and shorter shelf life.
@vuvieons
Ай бұрын
Not only chuu but whole loona. Get that in ur brain
@ButterflySUB
Ай бұрын
@@sss-pw3rt yes that's right. But loona or fromis_9 or momoland weren't nugu groups. They were mistreated.
@Vixensubss
Ай бұрын
it really depends on the company. some companies, like jyp, don’t have training debt, meaning the idols get payed immediately, or close to debut, whereas smaller companies like MLD have no choice but to give debt.
*"The Diet Award"* really makes me feel sick 😷
@user-se9wo4eu9s
Ай бұрын
Real
That's actually so fked up the company doesn't know what they're doing with idols
@B33nSprowt
Ай бұрын
Oh they know what they’re doing lmao they just don’t give a shit
@aerabyeol
Ай бұрын
As former K-pop trainine I have never heard of this before this is disgusting
@aimeeclarkson-williams3706
Ай бұрын
@@aerabyeol really? 🤨
@patrickkenyon2326
Ай бұрын
They know EXACTLY what they are doing. The lives of these young girls mean nothing to them. As long as the girls bring in money, the executives don't care if they starve.
@Dashomin
Ай бұрын
Oh they know but they don’t care. I was a professional figure skater in Russia the trainers would break you down at a very young age and separate you from your parents so you depend on them that they are your “mother or father” I would starve nearly everyday. Trust me they 100 percent no 1000 percent know what they are doing but they do not care. The diet awards is another sick way for motivation so you will have more motivation to diet
Its quite sad that she hardly ever made money even after all the hard work
@metho8662
Ай бұрын
She said that the reason was bc she was in debt. Otherwise shebwould have been paid really well
@Enhypen_ITZY
Ай бұрын
@@metho8662 I k ow but still damn
@alcidesprieto1967
Ай бұрын
You always be in debt with these companies.
@ChibiDesigns
Ай бұрын
@@metho8662especially with small companies they will always add random debts and not give the idols the breakdown so they have no idea how much each event is costing them to go to. An ex-crayon pop member did an interview that their company added thousands in debt every time they went to an overseas schedule
@Xonatirose
Ай бұрын
@@metho8662 most companies put the expenses of MVs, transportation, and hair and makeup onto the idols as debt so there was probably no way she would’ve made money in that company.
For line distribution, it's kinda true. I think Suju already share their opinion bout this, especially Heechul. He's happy that he paid the same as KRY while having much more less line than them 😅 Less energy more money
@dinahgraham4964
Ай бұрын
Wish everglow fans would learn this and shut up.
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
In the case of Heechul, from what I know, it is a little different because after his car accident, he couldn't do hard and strong choreography. So he told the members not to make it easy because of him, and they agreed to do that. He continues participating in the songs, just making a small appearance and rarely participating in the dance. Or at least that is what i know and have heard as a long time fan.
@Bunnybunny5656
Ай бұрын
@@dinahgraham4964ohh your worried about everglow? Try Jeongyeon solo stand. They are the most unbearable people to grace kpop
@zoi7582
Ай бұрын
Depends on the idol some might feel like less lines are limiting their potential or the kind they're supposed to get because they're capable constantly goes other members
@DRAMATICJELLYBEAN
29 күн бұрын
It depends on the person but I totally see it. As someone who does theater I like having roles where I have some but not a lot of lines, it’s less to learn and memorize 🤷♀️
Fans are soooo obsessed with line distribution it’s actually embarrassing cuz they don’t even know what they’re talking about. And yeah I feel like if I was in a Kpop group and I knew I couldn’t sing as well as the other members, I wouldn’t want as much/more lines than them 😭.
@sparklight0964
Ай бұрын
Exactly! Fans who obsess over line distribution are either anti’s or they only care about their ‘favorite’ member
@deannaw9128
Ай бұрын
If you cannot sing you shouldn't be able to call yourself a singer
@dips92
Ай бұрын
@deannaw9128 they're idol with many positions rapper, dancer, vocalist and visuals and each idol should be best in their positions while also have the skills for other things since 3rd generation, fans are more obsessed with dancers while visuals are always the top priority and the vocalist of a group is always an underrated gem.
@Nunu_bear
Ай бұрын
@@deannaw9128where did they say the words singer?
@hadrianhexe9603
Ай бұрын
@dips92 Exactly, people really act like Idols is blanket term for someone who performs. Like there's a reason there's different positions
Idol life isnt all Sunshine and Rainbows like some people believe to be Hats off to all these idols ♡
@aerabyeol
Ай бұрын
As a ex K-pop training, I’ve never heard of a diet award in my life. This is disgusting. Someone should shut down that company.
@soumyaprajith4710
Ай бұрын
@@aerabyeol oh my you were? Under which company?
@AngelleAnnie-cs1te
Ай бұрын
Really? Which company @@aerabyeol
@aerabyeol
Ай бұрын
@@soumyaprajith4710 I trained under JYP, hybe and FNC. My most recent JYP which I stayed Untill I left because of health problems. I will coke back when I complete my surgery.
@aerabyeol
Ай бұрын
@@AngelleAnnie-cs1te fnc, JYP and hybe
The "line distribution" reminds me of what Zi Tao (former EXO member) said to chinese trainess from a show. He said they (his members) didn't even fight for line distribution because it's better to give more lines to famous members in order to get more attention for their group. And about the trainess' debt, sometimes or most of the time, idols who debuted didn't get proper or enough pay until a year or two because of how big it is and sometimes it used as a reason for companies to cheat them even though their (kpop groups) groups are famous and have enough income to payed their debt. The company will tell the idols that it's not yet enough or they not finish paying yet and that will be the reason why idols will work harder, making them sick and tired just to pay them in order to get what they work for not knowing that the company was just use them as a cash cow.
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
That should be regulated, i think that is more important that the chores thing that around now, also the debuting minor and the unhealthy diets and schedules.
@alexia3552
6 күн бұрын
Idols need unions and SK needs more comprehensive labor laws *and enforcement*
At last someone talking about lesser line distributions because I'm sick of all the fans saying the company isn't treating thuer idols better just cuz of that
@demirababaria
Ай бұрын
Yea frr
@LyraReid
Ай бұрын
Some of their faves can't sing or rap that's probably why they don't get many lines.
@Jeon__JungKooKie
Ай бұрын
@@LyraReid that's kinda rude but true :)
@supercalifragilisticexpialido6
Ай бұрын
Exactly, the members with least lines are mostly the worst singers of the group and 2nd of all line distribution is all about how much you fit the song and whether you are capable to do those notes
@brennathecatlover4360
Ай бұрын
@@supercalifragilisticexpialido6not necessarily tho there’s great singers that don’t get shit either but maybe their voices just don’t fit a particular song
I'm not talking about specific idols, but I bet idols who are not that great of a vocalist would love having fewer lines, especially if the group consists of more than 5 members. MV/Live screen time is better than having more lines. There have always been at least one or two members that are not that great at singing, even since 2nd gen. But companies did a great job at not revealing it too much. Nowadays groups don't have clear positions of who is who and fans campaigned for idols to have even lines, the lesser vocalist is more apparent now.
I definitely remember someone else talking about the diet awards as well
Bruh not one single momoland clip, bruh
Momoland was mistreated so badly and not paying enough is another concern. The trainee awards could be based off talent or something but why diet??? Also forcing an idol to change their choices, personality is sooooo far….and yes line distribution is not a major problem as long as the members are okay with it….as the creator mentioned it varies with idol and not everyone would have experienced the same….
@goldenhime8404
Ай бұрын
K-pop is mostly not about talents, that's why most of K-pop is sh#t
Daisy seems like such a chill person, I follow her TikTok
please do not turn this into the 36 thing. this is based off HER OWN EXPERIENCES it does not speak for everyone especially not big3 idols
@Theycallmeqis
Ай бұрын
That exactly what she said
@tulipmars
Ай бұрын
literally what they said. learn to listen before you get defensive.
@mediverge
Ай бұрын
@@tulipmars i did. im reminding othrrs again because clearly people have no sense of media literacy when it comes to shorts.
@supercalifragilisticexpialido6
Ай бұрын
Big 3. Momo ?
@txgbatrz
Ай бұрын
this speaks for idols from big3/4 too it has nothing to do with how big the company is if a company is shit its shit
The diet award that fits the appeal of fans and industry.
Thats actually so sad
You know there's a reason why *MLD Entertainment* was named as *"The Worst Company of Kpop"*
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
It wasn't cube 😂😂, actually don't know but there're a lot bad companies for different reasons, i don't know how pick the worst one, truly sad for the artists 😢
@kkukkungie8018
Ай бұрын
@@danilecanda125 cube is bad don't get me wrong but MLD is for sure worse than cube by a long run. also usually idols end up in the companies they're in because they want to debut. you can't really be picky at that point
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
@@kkukkungie8018 yeah, i get that, a lot of trainees change from "good" companies to the really "bad" ones, because they want to debut and in the other they see it as impossible, is kinda sad. But in the long time i have been following kpop, there's is a lot of news and stories that sound like true horror stories, like the case of G.NA and cube, i don't remember the group but they were physically abused by the CEO, companies that forced their idols and trainees (men and woman, adults and underage) to served alcohol and "entertained" importan business man and investors all night and a lot of other things. Sometime i think if there's a point in an idol life that they sit down and think, Whether it was worth it for everything they went through to get to where they are or not, especially with groups that don't become well-known or successful.
@kpopzie_official
Ай бұрын
@@danilecanda125 Cube is Second on The List
@ranran_dv
Ай бұрын
@@kpopzie_official there are a lot of companies way worse, but just too unknown At least Cube idols have freedom ig
Daisy should please become the Stephanie Soo of Kpop because I need more on that "diet award"
@-N1K0LX-
Ай бұрын
She should
@iam-felixswife
27 күн бұрын
who’s stephanie soo
Wow i can't believe they mistreated my fav group when i was a kid
REMINDER: Daisy doesn't speak for every idol but that is her personal experience.
The hell? Talk about momoland but doesn't even show the actually group instead a bunch of other groups.
@furrycheetah
21 күн бұрын
But at least we know the darkside of Kpop industry rightnow
The only thing that matters with line distribution is who sings on the chorus. For certain agencies (HYBE is one), whoever sings on the chorus gets a bigger cut financially. But since that is only for song royalties, it adds up to very little anyway.
the line distribution is definitely her own experience, an example is chaeyoung from twice who used to cry because of having few lines
@theamazingnarku
Ай бұрын
She must had cried a lot cuz she still dont get lines. Twice lines really only go to Nayeon n occasionally Mina n Jihyo. Its a shame that lines can be unfair. I heard some where else someone who was an idol didn’t care for lines. But someone else they spoke with didn’t want a lot either. But def there are idols who want more n others that want less.
@hilaholo6822
Ай бұрын
But Heechul share the same experience as he said, he's happy he get less line, since it's more less energy more money
@eloxoxo222
Ай бұрын
@@hilaholo6822 every idol can have different experiences, while daisy and heechul may feel like it’s less of a burden chaeyoung already confessed she cried because of it
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
@@hilaholo6822In the case of Heechul, from what I know, it is a little different because after his car accident, he couldn't do hard and strong choreography. So he told the members not to make it easy because of him, and they agreed to do that. He continues participating in the songs, just making a small appearance and rarely participating in the dance. Or at least that is what i know and have heard as a long time fan.
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
There're some idol who ask to have more lines and other to have less, but in the end is the company decision.
I totally get enjoying having less lines. For one, 4th gen choreos, especially for girl groups, are hella intense, so with less lines, you can focus on dancing. For another, if you have more lines, it tires you out more. Sometimes it’s nice to not be front and center all the time.
@zoi7582
Ай бұрын
I think majority of these go for idols who didn't sign up to be singers but for idols who did and are capable constantly getting over looked in line distribution as it goes to popular members can be annoying
Sooyoung of GG is the first person who comes to mind whenever people talk about line distribution and how much she fought with SM to get more lines
@dongysakura418
Ай бұрын
And she can actually sing
MLD entertainment is probably treating Lapillus the same.
One of the reason I like Daisy is that she will be honest af and I love her for that
First Hanse now Daisy dropping details. SPILL ALL THE TEA, IDOLS!
Not all that glitters is gold.
@neonotcultured
Ай бұрын
Especially when you're from a poor/small company that can get away with such mistreatment
Just as a fact for people who don't know, smaller companies have the trainee debts to make up for the costs of training them and debuting the group, but big companies (like the big 3 + Hybe) don't have this debt as the companies have enough money so even if the idols fail, they won't exactly go bankrupt (except maybe YG cuz they don't make as many groups. I'm not sure)
@zoi7582
Ай бұрын
YGE definitely won't go bankrupt
Daisy is all that is good in this world... Glad she overcomed it 💜
that is true! thx for saying that!
YES diet award sounds depressing and disgusting but realistically that "diet award" exists because "FANS EXPECTATIONS TO IDOLS" ARE TO HIGH SO FOR THEM "SKINNY IS THE STANDARD" BODY SHAPE FOR IDOLS.. Healthy body shapes for them are unexpectable, they end up getting a lot of hate and criticism.. Sad but it's true
Damn. Y’all now discovering this?? Like she’s been posting about her life in Momoland for AGES now. This is old news.
"Diet award"? Seriously? How worse can things get?
@sss-pw3rt
Ай бұрын
i don't see why a diet award is bad.
@Imowlek
Ай бұрын
@@sss-pw3rt👎🏻
@iam-felixswife
27 күн бұрын
@@sss-pw3rtsame i would be so happy, where’s mine im 32kg i need a diet award
I feel like this is very unsurprising. If you were a fan of K-pop back in the day when like AOA was at their Hay Day and fnc was like a bigger name than it is now as a company you would know that they did like a reality show with the girls and they were on diets I remember them being like weighed in front of the staff and everyone on camera while they filmed it and then they told her they were allowed to eat food while the other girls got like chicken and stuff they got like a potato and some salad because they didn't lose enough weight. I've also seen other X trainees come out and talk about how they would get weighed in front of everyone they basically have a scale in the front and everyone would have to walk up get weed and then they would tell you if you lost or gained weight in front of everybody. In terms of money unless you come from one of the big companies in your group is super popular as soon as you debut you're actually just gaining debt which is kind of sad. But I also feel like you have to understand that companies do this on purpose. Like if they have you in debt to them and you can make them a bunch of money they'll do that. Not to mention I feel like the only way for a smaller group to make a lot of money is that they somehow managed to get ambassador ships because those are normally a pretty penny you're talking a couple hundred thousands of dollars just to get a celebrity sign on even if it is like a smaller idol because it would be opening up the Korean market. And that would be just pure income because the company is not paying for anything so they would just deduct however much money they need to from your paycheck.
In entertainment, is the paying off the debt thing a regular thing, or is it only for kpop??
@isaacsamuel997
Ай бұрын
usually only kpop
@SonnyDiBartolo
Ай бұрын
It’s only K-pop, American record labels are extremely different
@armyonce6962
Ай бұрын
^^american (&most other countries) labels don’t have debt because they don’t have a trainee system. the debt in kpop comes from training and living expenses the company pays for predebut
@SonnyDiBartolo
Ай бұрын
@@armyonce6962 your right, but some American labels (if they scout groups) choose to do free training and basically just prepare them for debut rather than like extensive training. However if a soloist is scouted they can do whatever
@leafissimile
Ай бұрын
American record labels are infamous for getting new artists to sign bad contracts. Instead of training, it's fees and salaries for recording studios, production, managers, etc. They're meant to pay it off from album sales, but it adds up to so much, the artists can end up with next to nothing if they're not careful.
if i was an idol having less lines is like a miracle, id rather stay out of the spotlight than be overworked to death. on the other hand what in the fuck is a diet award?? do trainees collect awards as if they’re pokemons??? why do companies have to treat their idols like dolls??
Dam that’s disgusting, please think before auditioning
Daisy said but you didn't use her photo or vid even a single one lol so disappointed
Remember when SISTAR Soyou showed on “Happy Together” how girls helped reduce their weight during weigh-ins by holding their hair in ponytails and then basically PULLING IT so it didn’t seem like they had more weight? No? I do.
@jade5202
Ай бұрын
that's exaggerated. Hair's weight is negligible
@kaylachung12
Ай бұрын
@@jade5202 I feel like you should go watch the clip so you can understand what I mean because it doesn’t sound like you do. Idk which episode number it is but SISTAR, HyunA, and I think. Henry and Amber were on it.
imo, these poor girls really should get some real life sense before committing to career of kpop idols. if you are not good enough for the big3 - fuck it up, lets find a more reasonable job to do. there are plenty of advantages that you could get only at big companies. they charge less payments and your debut is 100% payback in like first three months. you will always have a better promotions and career choices in a long term, access to luxury brands as well. the quality of music, style and how others treat you is just different. smaller companies will get you in debt for sure and you can never earn enough money to live it rich and effortless. they usually heavily exploit their idols, but chances of your success are so low it all would be more like a nightmare than a dream. dozens of different nugu groups debuting each year, but in the world of big3 influence they are literally nothing. i pity them and at the same time don’t understand this dreamy look about being an idol.
Trainees can be as young as 10 years old and most of them aren't passed their teens so having a "diet award" is so messed up
Having debt to a company when you are literally the reason the company makes money is so unfair
The first one is so disgusting
i would understand if the line difference is in small percentage, or at least a proper senteces. but in a case the idol only sang "hey!" "lalalala" or one or two random word i think its a problem
@deanab-se5op
Ай бұрын
And lalala is just a backtrack so these sub vocalists just lip sync 😫
The few lines makes sense some idols can’t sing and probably ask for few lines so they can be known for dancing more but it’s sad when they do know how to sing and get few lines
These companies practically have these idols in servitude. They don't care about the people just the money
It’s criminal that entertainment companies treat training cost as the employee debt.
aside from the more shocking stuff, i already kinda suspected the lines thing lol. having more lines doesn't always seem to correlate w popularity and i can imagine it feels like a lot of pressure if you're singing like half the song but still have to do the same choreo as everyone else
Wow that’s crazy and sad 😢
Are anyone else wondering how idols are getting charged 150,000 for training? I’m dead serious when I say that I think what they get isn’t that expensive. Dance lessons, vocal lessons, and some other things depending on your situation. Like do you live in the dorms or do you live at your parents house? Do you eat (nothing) at the company or do you eat what you’re parents made you. Like how are idols that much in debt?
@azulmv
Ай бұрын
Well most of the idols in the industry trained for years so everything you mentioned, multiply it for 5. Some trainees not even debut as idols so they never paid their debt.
That’s the same I’ve been thinking about the line distribution. The fewer lines some people get, the less they need to worry about singing live
daisy didn't complain about fewer lines but sooyoung did so line distribution is a big deal
@cowuie
Ай бұрын
no, again, like daisy said it isnt the same for all people. le sserafim’s sakura said she personally requested to not have too many lines in their songs. just because its a big deal for one idol doesnt mean its a big deal for others and vice versa. one idol doesnt speak for all
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
Some idols ask to have more lines others to have less and others are okey just how it is or don't care, but in the end sadly is the company decision
@sss-pw3rt
Ай бұрын
@@danilecanda125 how is it sad its the companys decision?
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
@@sss-pw3rt Imagine that an idol wants to have more lines but the company tells him no, that's sad. or if an idol wants fewer lines, they say no and give them more
@sss-pw3rt
8 күн бұрын
@@danilecanda125 I guess its sad she has a boss....
But let's be honest, it depends on the company, some companies treat their idols well ....
im glad they disbanded honestly. they dont deserve that
Title track worthy xD This actually felt like a comeback lmaoo Thank youu
I feel like for the most part companies will give lines to the idol that fits the song the best as obviously every idols voice will fit better for a different song or maybe they’re not as strong of a vocalist
They rlly tried to save the male shorty feelings😭
I feel that's why being in big companies like JYP,YG etc are good for debt bcz every company pays for their trainee to train them well and that debt the idol to pay once they debut but being in big company u can pay it all quickly bcz u get payed more. Diet award shouldn't be there I feel bcz a trainee life is one of the most exhausted life bcz u have to overwork so much then dieting skipping meals will make u unfit and its not good for ur health u can have medical issues. I feel like idols shall be free to express their opinions,choices rather than putting a choice the company wants them to say. Yeah, I feel having less lines ain't a issue for idols bcz u have less burden or u have to overwork than ur groupmates.But I also feel having too less lines ain't even that good bcz ur talent is hidden all the time. I also feel being a idol doesn't means the company will own you,bcz they will make you wear uncomfortable and unsecure clothes,getting surgeries even if u don't want to ur forced to.
S-class hate is so forced
They’re dang near pimping them! This is one of the first things that I found out upon joining my first fandom, back in 2014, & I immediately stopped stanning groups with terrible management. Since they’re treated like items, I felt their contracts may be terminated earlier if they lose fans. Not so sure how true that theory may be though.. I’d still support them individually of course!!❤
Amazing dance performance 👏🏻😁 hard work on display
Don't think all the companies are like that. But, they all do one thing or another that I don't like. MOMO was told to lose X amount of weight in one week, if she wanted to debut with the group. She said - _"I felt so weak that when I went to sleep, I cried because I was scared that I wouldn't wake up in the morning."_
It’s ridiculous that idols have to pay their companies for training. Like I can see an argument for a company getting reimbursed for providing housing and meals, but in what world is it okay for a company to charge employees for training? Like imagine getting hired and your boss was like “ok your salary is $50k, the first month or two will be mostly training, for which you will be charged $70k”
@melekbasri1575
Ай бұрын
Because they are not employees yet, they are like students and they are training.
@aninterestinusername
Ай бұрын
@@melekbasri1575I guess, though I’d still argue that the ones that actually debut should have their debt cleared. But I’ve also heard of idols having to cover the cost of lessons even after they debut.
People always judge what they see on the screen, they think idols js dance and sing and have stages everyday but they go throught things like this everyday. Not all companies do all these things but a lot might do some of these things. Hybe groups rn are going throught a lot nowdays but everyone is critizicing them without even know the reason why they're doing bad, they hate the artists when it could also be the agency's fault
This applies to Loona members too. Just because the company could “flex” with big mvs, each member got a solo debut and etc we thought everything was okay, when in reality the company holds their money to be in debt forever. K-pop is a shady business.
Oh well, she made it after all ...
imo, screentime is far more relevant that line distribution. like, my bias only has 10 sec and the main vocalist has 30 ? okay that’s chill. but if you don’t actually SEE my bias in the music video until the second chorus, now we have an issue lmao.
The k-pop idol industry is the worst in the world
They need some of that diet award here in the states.
Almost 100k!
If you are curious on how Daisy is doing she is 43 years old a mother of 3 and her ears are fake
So, do the trainees that never get to debut just have to pay all that debt off anyway? 😳
Putting Jisoo's face on line distribution part is kind of denying years of her fan's wish to see her get more lines when daisy said that it need not be true for every group.
Damn that company I swear to god if they ever do something to LAPILLUS 🤬
This is disgusting,like legit "diet" Award?
While diet award sounds bad, we know that all idols and trainees are forced to diet - at least when there's an award the one that does it the best gets something out of it I reckon... and I know from idols like Sakura and Jin, there definitely are idols that prefer less vocal lines so not surprised.
@emmuzboosh
26 күн бұрын
It’s less to award them and more to try make them diet even more lmao.
Hopefully mod treats their group right or else I am throwing hands I'd they touch anything wrong with hori7on
Maybe it comes from her personal experience but all of this actually exsist in all companies
it was daisy who said this
who is here in 2024? 😢😢😢😢
Nice background vids...
Everyone was crazy about Nancy but JooE was my bias ☺
What's the name of the group shown after Mina?
You really came in with Lisa's 'hottest' clip edits Aweisom
The debt is normal especially for smaller conpanies. THAT'S WHY DO NOT NORMALISE DEBUTING YOUR CHILDREN AS K-POP IDOLS.
But you don’t show Daisy on the video
Everyone acting like the debt thing is so unfathomable and evil fails to realise the deal is much better than going to college in most of the Western world. The average time it takes to repay a student debt is 21 years whereas, even with Momoland barely being a middling group at best, Daisy paid off her MUCH larger debt in under 4 years. She saw no money for herself in that time, but the company covered her costs for accomodation, food, clothes etc and she had easy access to numerous luxuries regular people have to work much longer to be able to afford or enjoy without going broke. I’d say that’s a great bloody deal from a company that invested over $100,000 into giving you a chance at becoming rich yourself. Even the diet thing… have y’all been living under a rock or something? Go to any ballet academy, go to any American football academy or even go to a youth football club over in England. Tough expectations on children in high competition fields is the norm around the world; it isn’t unique or especially bad in Kpop.
@danilecanda125
Ай бұрын
Both of the things that you said are true, it not like they don't have were to live or food or anything like that, is normal and logic that they have to "pay" the money that was invested in them (and don't come from their or family pockets either), and is not a small investment to train an idol, and people often forget that they know what they are getting in to, is not like they are forced to become an idol is their choice, and some group pay the debt faster than others, even are groups were some members paid their debt faster than the other members because solo activities, for example yoona of girls generation. And other thing, i don't know if still like that, but at les in the past idol have corporate cards, that they can used to pay food and other things. And the diet thing, is true that you can see it in a lot of disciplines, like ballet, gymnastics, boxing, american football and a lot of other ones. But i think that the problem is more because the extreme of them, and is not just in idols or korea, is in mostly all of the entertainment industry, like models, actors/actress and others, i remenber when models would eat cotton balls so they wouldn't feel hungry, and also the agencies will, beacuse they still do it, demand to the models to have certain measurements, chests, waist, hips and everything possible, so you can said that they have it worst. Even France in the 2000~2010 have to implement a law for fashion shows and brands to don't have models that were extremely skinny, because they were dying and it was a bad example for young children. Because of that nowadays model are skinny but not bones with skin like back then.
@dorino9057
Ай бұрын
Stop capping for these companies
Guys kya aaplog ko aawaj sunai diya raat ko?
who is the idol in the light blue and then red outfits that is being shown when the diet award is being discussed?
@stevenroy5711
Ай бұрын
Soojin an ex gidle member now a soloist
@whooopdeedo
Ай бұрын
@@stevenroy5711 thank you!
Things that she exposed about her company you mean
... MLD, right?! 😶
i saw mina at the first clip😂
Momoland video but no momoland in the video lol
Eating disorder 🎉
AMEI