Ironic that the sequels tried to strike down the prequels, but ended up making them more powerful then they could possibly imagine.

@chasehedges6775

6 ай бұрын

Revenge Of The Sith is still awesome

@nathanwilson4814

6 ай бұрын

W

@AncestorEmpireGaming

6 ай бұрын

@@chasehedges6775 damn right.

@windfire05

6 ай бұрын

The prequels are good but the sequels are better.

@chasehedges6775

6 ай бұрын

@@windfire05 The prequels were a vision. The sequels were a cash-grab product

The difference is the prequels had a theme and coherent story while the sequels was a Frankenstein's monster of a dumpster fire.

@davidordaz5251

6 ай бұрын

Exactly

@kamikoto1558

6 ай бұрын

that is true but the actual main difference is the prequels dont shit on everything the OT did nor rip it off whilst the sequels do.

@LaraA55

6 ай бұрын

Indeed

@Sonof_DRN2004

6 ай бұрын

Now that’s just insulting to Frankenstein’s Monster, totally uncalled for.

@LaraA55

6 ай бұрын

@@kamikoto1558 Yup

You said perfectly. The sequel trilogy was Disney’s attempt to milk Star Wars for all it was worth. Milk does not age well.

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity

@garethholman1050

6 ай бұрын

​@@keepmovingforward1722I'd say only if you can find them 2nd hand so as not to give Disney your money.

@mdub2000

6 ай бұрын

The thing is that kids who grew with the prequels who loved it were able to be vocal about it as they grew older not to mention they had time to connect what they saw to the original trilogy while connecting to other generation of star wars fans most likely with family as they grew too… on the other hand the sequal is disjointed and doesn’t connect well to episodes 1-6 other than killing the main legacy characters off…. kids hardly connected with the sequels and even further didnt connect the sequals to the prequels and original series… meaning the connection with other generation of fans were not made well so that whole thing about the movie aging well has nothing to do with the movie itself becoming more understandable with fans it has alot to do with how well the movie was able to make a younger generation thoughtfully create connections not only with the other trilogies but realy with other people and other fans and a community…. Disney who is supposed to be all about family didnt even think about this and missed out with helping people make the many connections to previous fans like SWT made…so I dont really think it will age well as most people don’t see the connections … the sequels will be seen as unconnected movies with the feel of a different universe where the kids of that sequel generation will say oh yeah i remember those movies dont remember much about them though.

@elgusaniiiodeljuego6823

4 ай бұрын

Nor does soy milk

@Crackmiser

3 ай бұрын

I just don’t understand why it had to be bad though. Like Kylo had so much potential to be something more, a true successor to Darth Vader. But oh boy did they fail.

As someone who is 31 and grew up watching the prequels (I was 8 when episode 1 came out) I can safely say everything you said in this video is exactly how I feel. My father sat me down and showed me Star Wars for the first time when I was like 5 or 6 on cassette tape and that was a major highlight of my childhood and we still watch the originals and prequels to this day. We watched Boba, that was a letdown but Mando we both liked a fair bit. I have grown distant from Star Wars ever since Ep.7-9 due to my feelings on those movies, however I do and will always be up for a watch party or just sit down and put on 1-6 at any time. Disney may have hurt my soul (figuratively) by making such crap movies but they never could take my love for George Lucas's Star Wars.

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity The EU will ignite your love, it’s just reading

@RedstoneNinja1

6 ай бұрын

How did you feel about Rogue One? I’m like you, growing up with the OT and PT, and I think Rogue One easily fits with the essence of Star Wars.

@trevorthornley8835

2 ай бұрын

​@@RedstoneNinja1 rogue one definitely was. I actually don't mind solo too much either.

The prequels have something the sequels will never have; a well-crafted narrative, written by an inimitable artist who truly cared.

@Gregoreo1127

6 ай бұрын

The sequel trilogy was made for the money- not out of passion love of the creative SW universe/lore Shame on them Shame 🔔 Shame 🔔

@CoffeePotGames

6 ай бұрын

It had a narrative. Wouldn't call it well crafted but it was there

@SaintedDemon

6 ай бұрын

@@CoffeePotGames The dialogue may have its faults, but you cannot fault the story concepts or the world building.

@CoffeePotGames

6 ай бұрын

@@SaintedDemon yea fair enough. I still think episode 1 is almost entirely useless to the overall story and could've been told differently and episode 2 is one of the worst movies I've seen but episode 3 almost makes up for it

@SaintedDemon

6 ай бұрын

@@CoffeePotGames I think Episode I was important enough for the story to warrant an inclusion in the trilogy; removing Jar Jar would have been the only major change I would have made. As for Episode II, I do agree it was rather lackluster, even though it included some key elements to the story. I would have focused more on Anakin's pre-knighthood training and life in the Jedi order, which would then lead into the CW story. That being said, The Last Jedi is the worst film I've ever seen, tied with Captain Marvel.

The prequel’s had a plan from the beginning, but the Sequels didn’t, JJ even confessed it in his apology. One of the reasons was because he, Rian and Colin didn’t want to go the other ones direction and wanted things to be done their way.

@chasehedges6775

6 ай бұрын

THIS

@123reivaj

6 ай бұрын

+1

@davidmcaninch4714

6 ай бұрын

That wasn’t an “apology.” It was an admittance of pride.

@pop-culturecinephile8144

6 ай бұрын

@@davidmcaninch4714, but he still admitted there was no plan, unlike the others who blame us for not liking what they made

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity

A big thing for why the prequals aged so well is because the kids that grew up with them absolutely LOVED them. I really don't see this current generation of kids absolutely obsessed with the sequels like how I was with the prequals TBH

@Alx1744

6 ай бұрын

No-one cares about the sjw reddit disney's star wars.

The prequels had some problems when it comes to the dialouges and the writing at times. But they followed a goal, from the start it was clear that its purpose was to show how Anakin became Darth Vader. But the sequels purpose seemed to change from movie to movie, which is why they definetly wont age like the prequels

The prequels have something the sequels doesn't have, world building

@mcflexel7581

6 ай бұрын

Also, a great plot, characters and scale

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity The EU has GREAT world building

@kigurumii

6 ай бұрын

noo we cant have that! Back to the "scrappy rebels vs ebil empire" motif because that is what Star Wars is supposed to be according to these creatively bankrupt hack frauds at disney and the manchildren who eat this swill up because they wanted to "recapture their childhood". Name a worse blight on modern media than nostalgia baiting.

Being born in 1990, the prequels were my childhood. Obviously saw the original trilogy but being a kid during the prequels and watching them in theaters was incredible.

@muigokublack6487

6 ай бұрын

1991 for me. I watched the OT on VHS as well the Special Editions and was the right age for the prequels. Seeing ROTS in theaters was a magical event because in those days seeing Star Wars on the big screen was an EVENT.

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity

@francoisregis2155

6 ай бұрын

The 90’s and 80’s where a great time to be star wars fan grew up on the OT played the role playing game when it came out in 87 then came the dark times no star wars until the series of books heir to the empire and then comics 97 came with special edition and 99 came love the prequels spend great time in 99-02 and 05 Then came Disney ouch no comments

The big difference is that the prequels flaws are something that can be overlooked over time: execution. It was a consistent story that expanded the world based on what was already there, adding it's own story, heightening what came before. It was a great story executed with many flaws in the Skript and directing. Over time, it's possible for people to recognize the bigger story it tried to tell us, which they did. The sequels, while sharing some of these flaws, lack a consistent story that has a clear goal of what it adds to the mythos. The prequels, while being mocked for being bad, we're accepted as a story that is part of the saga, partially because they really expanded the world of star wars. The sequels didn't really add much new stuff to the mythos that works the same way. Most of the things they added, like a bunch of new things regarding the force, clash with what was established before, so people can't just include it in the bigger picture of star wars. This really is where them not having a clear vision screwed them over.

@erikdayne5429

6 ай бұрын

The sequels also had no respect for the source material. Force healing, force Skype, force teleporting objects, the Holdo maneuver, none of these things would have happened if they had someone in the room who cared about the source material to say we can’t do these things because that’s not how it works.

@mattsell2361

6 ай бұрын

I think being released at the same time of the mcu at least before endgame when the mcu was still good hurts the sequels as well. I think kids of this generation are mostly going to associate with and Have nostalgia for the mcu with captain America and iron man then they are with the sequels. Also the prequels have a cool factor with the characters and the lightsaber fights. The sequels do not have that same cool factor

@dustingrimmmagic1067

6 ай бұрын

@@mattsell2361 true!

@lilamjazeefa9466

6 ай бұрын

So you're saying that... they have paid the price for their lack of vision?

@raskolnikov6443

6 ай бұрын

Perfectly put

I rewatched the prequels this week and one the things I think really helps them is Episode III is an amazing ending. Also, it pays off things set up in Episode I and II that makes those movies look better retrospectively (for the record, I think Episode I is criminally underrated, while Episode II is a good, although far from great, movie). In comparison Episode IX is such a poor movie that it makes Episodes VII and VIII look worse retrospectively because nothing seems to payoff from those movies (and both are bad movies on their own). So I don’t see how the sequels will become loved because it is not like you get to the end and see some great setup; you see a clear cash grab

@anakinskywalker5795

6 ай бұрын

👏👏👏

@danballe

6 ай бұрын

I would say, more like repeat echo what others had said here or over other channels, comments. Epi. VIII is a good movie , just NOT great NOR is it a Real Star Wars movie. That's it. Also IX is just horse manure

@J1O2C3K4E5S

4 ай бұрын

Exactly. And whenever I see people try to argue why they are good it seems they are really applying themselves when it comes to why. Just thinking about all those who made reactions. It’s clear it’s not genuine and they themselves openly admits that stuff don’t make sense but they’ll say it’s great anyways basically. Or doesn’t have basic understanding/knowledge of common tropes from the saga. None of these are great in case you’re trying to talk in favor of the movies. If a film is great you should never have to apply yourself to find cohesive points for why it’s great.

@elgusaniiiodeljuego6823

4 ай бұрын

Ep III is easily the second best movie of the whole franchise. Lucas was able to rectify after two poops because bad acting doesn’t corner you; bad writing does.

@mikefrost5575

Ай бұрын

To be fair to episode IX, Ryan left JJ NOTHING to work with. All that... I struggle to call it decent, but all the setup from the Force Awakens went nowhere in TLJ, so it's no wonder Episode IX is the way it is.

The fact that Disney is plowing ahead with this Rey trilogy is baffling. That is the last thing that would bring me back.

@mcflexel7581

6 ай бұрын

Exactly, like Disney wants money so bad, it annoying but I understand why they do that. But if you are going to do that at least make it so that the money will actually get money 😭😭

@captainDJ87

6 ай бұрын

Tone Death to the 3rd degree

@rector0455

6 ай бұрын

They're about to eat hundreds of billions on the new Captain Marvel film, they think that the goodwill they had for the ST, fans hoping against hope that maybe THIS movie will pull it out of the fire, will return again for them. They've confused it with any actual affection for Rey. They're very wrong though and they'll be eating another massive L when this turd-burger gets served.

@bchristian85

6 ай бұрын

One of the creators of one of the upcoming movies said their goal is to 'piss people off'. That's where Disney is at right now. I'm so close to just completey disregarding everything but 1-6 and the Clone Wars in my headcanon and just being done with it. So far I have liked the pre-ROTJ Disney content. Rogue One, Tales of the Jedi, and Andor. Anything post-ROTJ, I could care much less about.

@billyd5917

6 ай бұрын

I'm really excited about it honestly...But afterwards I want new things to expand the lore.

The writers of the ST took the OG trio, handed their legacies, possessions and even one of their names over to Rey. Then killed off the entire Skywalker/Solo family. I saw this comment not long after the ST ended that said, " The sequel trilogy can be summed up in one sentence, 3 generations of Skywalkers fought , suffered and died so that the descendant of their enemy could take their name" It will never recover from that.

@WhatTheHellFritz

6 ай бұрын

Damn, that’s so true.

@mafiagrim

6 ай бұрын

Literally ruined 2/3 of the ot trio

@windfire05

6 ай бұрын

The sequels didn't ruin the story of Star Wars, they expanded it.

@DarkAbyss-em5ly

6 ай бұрын

Would've been epic if the ST had taken that and at least run with it in a more believable way than just boom force lightning and BTW the entirety of the screen time that rei was in there I really actually guessed she was supposed to be related to palpatine in some way and then that came true, but I also didn't think that she would be part of a diad in the force that part was just like why even bother throwing it out there if Noones around to explain it. It's not like having visions or talking directly with people through the force wasn't already part of the package for force users powerful enough, hell palpatine I believe in legends was able to cause force storms on entire planets. But I'll be honest since abeloth is still Canon I was hoping they'd be going for her as the ST main villain but at this point we all know she's not going to get the spotlight for a long time now

@mafiagrim

6 ай бұрын

@@windfire05 expanded it in a bad way

As a millenial I LOVE the prequel trilogy. There are still somethings that can be done better but over prequels are my favorite. I do also love the OG trilogy, thanks to my mom introducing me to star wars via episode 4.

The creative decisions of George Lucas in The Prequel Trilogy were charming and inspired … the narrative decisions of Disney’s Corporate Entity in *The Failure of Skywalker Alternate Dark Timeline Where Ahsoka is Slain by Vader* also known by some as “The Sequel Trilogy” were soulless and somewhat mean-spirited

@RaikenXion

6 ай бұрын

Oh very, and you can almost imagine Ahsoka calling to Rey from the netherealm as a force ghost, "Rey", and through that window from a portal within the WBW, watching on after she called her, seeing the girl Rey dressed all in white, doing battle with Darth Sidious on Exegol. And so IF you really thinking about it, there could well be a existential paradox here, because IF the voice of Ahsoka we hear in Rise of Skywalker calling Rey's name, is of a "slain Ahsoka". then the Ahsoka in her own series and who appeared briefly in BOBF episode, as well as teaming up with Mando in a episode of his series, is of another version of Ahsoka; in another timeline. No two ways about it.

When the prequels are on, I’ll want to watch them. When the sequels are on, I find something else to watch. That’s the biggest difference to me. The sequels feel completely disconnected to the Star Wars first 6 movies.

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity

@DS9TREK

6 ай бұрын

​@@keepmovingforward1722stop spamming the same comment

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

@@DS9TREK I’m just tired of people saying the same “cancel Disney” “disneys not canon” “sequels are trash” But still watch the new show/movie the next day. I’m offering an alternative, but unfortunately people don’t want to read.

@misanthropicattackhelicopt4148

6 ай бұрын

@@keepmovingforward1722 The sequels are trash and yes I have read the EU superior in everyway.

The truth is that the prequels were never that bad. A tremendous amount of effort was put into every one of those movies. It changed technology and storytelling in cinema forever. Now, the prequels also had the best choreography. Just watch those fights, they not only hold up incredibly well, but they're also extremely unique. The prequels also expanded the universe and made the story bigger and better on so many levels, and unfortunately, very little Disney made came close to this. The sequels have no cohesion, they destroy the classic lore and we also have a lot of bad scenes. The fight in the throne room (Snoke's room) is insanely bad. I mean, I can go on and on, but the sequels WON'T be loved. Only those who aren't really fans can enjoy the sequels, that's my 2 cents. If you never loved George's Star Wars, you probably will enjoy the sequels. It's brain-dead, there's no real substance to it. No myth, no themes or real motifs, most of it is mindless action that tries to emulate the classics.

@holmesgirl3673

6 ай бұрын

This is everything I've said about not just the sequel movies; but almost anything Disney had put out. I will say, I did enjoy Rogue One.

@billyd5917

6 ай бұрын

This is how I felt about the prequels, but really it does not destroy the lore.

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity

@MichaSennin

6 ай бұрын

well said man!

@billyd5917

6 ай бұрын

@@keepmovingforward1722 So true personally love the sequels especially TLJ becoming my favorite Star wars movie...Which for almost 40 years Empire was my favorite but just blown away by TLJ.

The very first Star Wars movie I saw in theatres was Revenge Of The Sith opening night. I was 9 years old and dressed as the emperor. It was a night I’ll never forget. The early and mid 2000’s was the best. I had my PS2 And remember getting the Revenge Of The Sith game for it and this was before the movie had came out and when I saw that they had clips from the movie I freaked out and ran and told my mom because of how pumped I was because I was a huge Star Wars fan.

Sequels?? .. What sequels??

The sequel trilogy will never age well unless it’s rebooted with a competent crew and writers

@windfire05

6 ай бұрын

The sequels don't need to be rebooted. They're fine as they are.

@macwelch8599

6 ай бұрын

@@windfire05 lol, hard disagree

@Amp661

6 ай бұрын

Damage is done. Leave them alone.

@JP-eu2dc

6 ай бұрын

@@windfire05 i'm dead. no

@billyd5917

6 ай бұрын

Ohh please no don't reboot...If the do they better reboot the prequel trilogy as well then.

Wishful thinking. Not to mention part of the newfound love for the prequels was because the sequels were so awful. People looked back at the prequels and thought, "Perhaps I treated you too harshly."

@muigokublack6487

6 ай бұрын

Exactly. Once they saw just how much worse it could get people started thinking "You know, we never knew just how good we had it"

@Amp661

6 ай бұрын

People are stupid, like a majority of this fanbase. George didt do it for the fans, he did what he wanted. Pity Disney are the opposite

@rojaws1183

6 ай бұрын

The actors on the prequels were definitely treated too harshly.

@romigithepope

6 ай бұрын

Exactly! The Prequels has flaws but you could tell the love and attention put into them.

@TheeWandaStan

6 ай бұрын

you forget who the sequels were for, the younger generation of star wars fans. kids love rey, kylo, bb8 etc and as they get older their nostalgia for that trilogy will only strengthen that love. that’s how it goes with franchises like star wars. prequel fans might hate the sequels but that’s fine because they have their own fans who love it and that’s all that matters. star wars is for everyone.

The prequels had flaws but overall, they are still fun movies to watch. Great Lightsaber duels, world building, and each episode adds to the overall story of the Skywalker saga. The sequels were just a mess

@bosskbounty

6 ай бұрын

They are trash designed to sell toys.

@LilacSreya

6 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@bosskbounty *sequels are trash designed to sell toys.

@bosskbounty

6 ай бұрын

@@LilacSreya agree, just like the Prequels and Return of the Jedi. Return of the Jedi pushed Star Wars into the world of the "toyetic". But then ... I don't know if you'll believe me. And frankly I don't give a flying F.

@raskolnikov6443

6 ай бұрын

@@bosskbounty🤡

I feel the biggest tell that even Disney has chosen to sideline the sequels, or at least drastically underplay them, is that by a few years after ep III we had the Clone Wars animated series and a bunch of books filling in the clone war years, but here it is 4 years after the last sequel movie and they haven't done much with that time period. There were a few books and an ok-ish animated series trying desperately to make sense of the plot. By not fleshing out this portion of the story, admittedly because sales of books and merchandise etc. were far lower than projected, Disney has shown it was all about making quick money and that's sad when you consider the potential stories we could have had to further the Skywalker saga.

I remember reading an article online asking if the sequels will get the same treatment at the prequels currently do. I honestly doubt it.

@Kou69

6 ай бұрын

"the seagulls" HAHAH autocorrect is a beautiful thing

@CJBStudios

6 ай бұрын

@@Kou69 Stupid dictation.

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity I wouldn’t doubt it. But hey we have the EU, give it a try

I was 9 when TFA came out but I still always liked the prequels better than the sequels…

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity The EU EXPANDS on the prequels

Talented people writing well written star wars stories. It shouldn't be this difficult

There is something that I feel a lot of people don't consider when they say things like "The Sequels will be like the Prequels in the future": The issues people had with the prequels are completely different from the issues that people now have with the sequels. The sequels are more fundamentally flawed than the prequels ever were, because no matter what your opinion on any Star Wars is, the fact is the prequels were properly thought through and were a cohesive story that didn't contradict itself, the sequels weren't planned out fully, handed from writer to writer and director to director with the Actors themselves confirming that no solid plans were made for the story they tried to tell. These kinds of fundamental issues don't fade away with time. One of the big complaints about the prequels was the overuse of CGI; at the time this was a big deal since that hadn't been done before, but now, CGI is incredibly prominent in all mainstream movies, and while the prequels are definitely guilty of overusing CGI in some aspects, they don't feel out of place today since so much of cinema is made with CGI. In 20 years time, making disjointed film projects that contradict themselves and are poorly managed internally isn't going to become a widespread practice, and it isn't going to be an accepted standard by the masses. A disjointed story with no clear plan will always be a disjointed story with no clear plan. That isn't even getting into the other flaws with the sequels that many fans have, some on a more subjective basis than others, but I have only spoken about the objective issues here since nobody can argue back that I'm being a fanboy or a hater because Disney, the actors, members of the creative teams and more people who worked on the Sequel Trilogy have openly admitted to the entire project being poorly managed and misguided internally.

@darthdrip793

6 ай бұрын

Those sequel toys were just flying off the shelves too!

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity

@anglishbookcraft1516

6 ай бұрын

Well put

@Lemmiwings

6 ай бұрын

"...making disjointed film projects that contradict themselves and are poorly managed internally isn't going to become a widespread practice..." Well, it kind of is for Dinsey movies and shows. But I agree. I would also add the poor directing and writing of dialogues in the prequels. Which was always a problem for George Lucas.

I grew up loving the Prequel Trilogy, and I still love them to this day.

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity The EU has stories that’ll make you love the prequels more

@bosskbounty

6 ай бұрын

So you were not a fan of the original films and hated on them when they came out with the same passion that people hate on the sequels. Ironic.

@abby2404

6 ай бұрын

@@bosskbounty Sorry, I just want to let you know I did watch the original and sequels all of them.

I loved the prequels and episode 3 hit me personally, I always felt outcasted and my cerebral palsy ruining my body over the years, kinda made me relate to anakin as his body was burned and having felt he was betrayed by the jedi and in my opinion if the jedi accepted him and not made him a black sheep, he probably wouldnt have fell and palp preyed on that.

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity

I think a lot OT fans who grew up with those movies, reading comics and books, playing the old games, toys, etc. grew such an attachment to the characters in the OT that nothing else mattered. I even think so far as the extended universe legends stuff some view that as far more important than the prequel stuff to this day. Us as kids being there for the prequel ride yet still having a love and appreciation for the OT got the unique experience that in my opinion was the best way to experience the story Lucas had in his head. Anakin and Obi-wan were the glue to both trilogies and I guess somewhat the sequel trilogy for what its worth. But no the sequel trilogy will not age like wine as so many previous SW titles have even things like KotoR and the Force Unleashed have age incredible well. The only Disney Era movies things I would consider having that effect are Rogue One and maybe even Solo. I still think Solo got the short end of the stick coming out after The Last jedi, had it come out before I genuinely believe it would have gone over a lot better with the fans

Episode IV used to be my favourite, however it’s crazy that when I became a father, Episode VI became my favourite and hits so much harder 👍

I do not think the sequels will age like the prequels. The prequels were hated on cuz it didn’t meet what the ot fans wanted to see. They weren’t bad films. The sequels however not only don’t meet the expectations of the fans, but they are also objectively bad films. No amount of time will fix things like the weapon dissapearing during the fight in TLJ, or the Death Star wreckage lining up with the dagger carving.

@windfire05

6 ай бұрын

The sequels are hated because they're not what George Lucas fanboys wanted to see.

@billyd5917

6 ай бұрын

Actually objectively Episode 1 and 2 are bad films...And objectively episode 7 and 8 are great films.

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity The EU/Legends met and exceeded expectations

@MegaDarkness5000

6 ай бұрын

​@@billyd5917HAHAHHA no

Unlike the sequels, the prequels don’t take characters we love and shit on them. They took Luke Han and Leia and replaced them with inferior characters.

@MrEffectfilms

6 ай бұрын

Many people actually disagree with you, I know a lot of people thought the prequels ruined Yoda and Palpatine. That's just how they felt, just as this is how you feel.

@Chosen_one_501

6 ай бұрын

@@MrEffectfilmsexcept it’s not exactly the same. The prequels gave Yoda an arc. He went from the corrupt Jedi in tpm to the wise and enlightened Jedi in empire and ROTJ. It’s adds something good to the story where there wasn’t one previously. Now take Han and compare him from ANH to TFA. They regressed his character to be where he started as the deadbeat scoundrel wandering around with chewie. My point is that the prequels gave us new perspectives in the ot characters that yeah some people subjectively didn’t like. However the sequels just undid character development in a way that was objectively bad. So it’s not entirely the same feeling.

@JalenKenobi

6 ай бұрын

@@MrEffectfilms The difference is that the Sequels actually did ruin characters....

@MOGHI66

6 ай бұрын

Maybe because there were 3 or 4 characters from the original Trilogy in prequel Trilogy and they had very few minutes in the movies

@kaykay9646

6 ай бұрын

@@MrEffectfilmsthose were more than likely just old Original Trilogy fans who couldn’t keep up with the story and were confused because GL made a Prequel trilogy. There was nothing wrong with Yoda or Phalpatine we saw them younger and more mobile and actually saw them on the battle field and fight. Not just sit and talk in riddles in a chair the whole trilogy.

One of the first problems with this theory is the narrative itself. The prequels certainly had detractors when it came out but they did not make up most of the Fandom. That's why much of the prequel related lateral material sold very well and had lots of popularity. We didn't have social media at the time so mainstream media panned the prequels and assumed they spoke for Star Wars fans. Once social media took off, the harsh reality that they were the ones out of touch hit them in the face. That's why they ran with this false narrative about aging well and prequel fans coming of age.

@mattsell2361

6 ай бұрын

I think being released at the same time of the mcu at least before endgame when the mcu was still good hurts the sequels as well. I think kids of this generation are mostly going to associate with and Have nostalgia for the mcu with captain America and iron man then they are with the sequels. Also the prequels have a cool factor with the characters and the lightsaber fights. The sequels do not have that same cool factor

@chytstorm

6 ай бұрын

The prequels got many, many good reviews from major critics. It was absolutely the majority of fans who grew up with the original trilogy doing most of the the hating on the prequels. Back then we mostly posted on dedicated forums. By the time social media got more popular, many were still bitching about the prequels. You don't even have to use the wayback engine to find the toxic posts and heated arguments. Most of the kids who grew up with the prequels didn't complain about them the way the adults did. Not even close.

@cptace

6 ай бұрын

@chytstorm I wouldn't say the majority of the fans just based on the numbers. When the majority of people don't enjoy something you tend to see a decline in attendance/ money. That didn't happen with the prequels the same way it did with the sequels. You also wouldn't see enthusiasm for the adjacent material produced. And yes, I was there for those forums. SMH. I was quite disappointed in what people thought qualified as fans.

@chytstorm

6 ай бұрын

@@cptace Yes, it definitely was a majority. The prequels did not perform as well (inflation adjusted) as the OT did at the box office. As I said in my original post, the kids were the ones who enjoyed them the most, kept coming back, and bought the merchandise, pretty much the way it played out for the originals. It wasn't just the forums where you got the hatred. If you attended a convention and said you liked the prequels, you'd get more than pushback from anybody in earshot. It was hordes of Star Wars fans who ruined Jake Lloyd's career and caused him to seek therapy for years. Simon Peg admitted that he was wrong for jumping on the hate wagon and apologized to Ahmed Best. The guy contemplated suicide after years of that mess. All in all, it wasn't just a vocal minority. It was a majority of the hardcore OT fans. And you're right. It was pretty sad to watch, especially if you happen to know some of the people who worked on those films. It was around that time that people began to admit that Star Wars had one of the most toxic fandoms. That was the original Fandom Menace.

@cptace

6 ай бұрын

@chytstorm @chytstorm Inflation adjustment is one thing, but I'm looking at the trajectory of the box office itself, particularly the dip in the second film and then a bounce in the last one. And the Simon Pegg thing is the perfect example of what I'm talking about. I'm not saying it was sad because of how those folks acted, although it was disgusting. I'm saying it was sad because he had the nerve to call himself a hardcore fan. Rambling about practical effects and getting nostalgic about "that time Han said, "I know" does not make you a fan of Star Wars. Maybe a fan of filmmaking, but I'm not here for all that. I'm here for the Star Wars universe. Apparently they weren't as they mucked up the sequels. And Star Trek for that matter. Oh, and I was one of those people who "dared" to say I loved the prequels back then and there were times when I received pushback. That never lasted more than five minutes though because I actually knew the lore. Which is more than I could say for them, unfortunately.

Love your channel man keep up the great work!!!

Highly doubt the sequels will age well like the prequels. People may ease up a little over time with the sequels, but they will never be beloved. The prequels at the end of the day still have a great story regardless of the execution. The sequels will never have a good story, nothing can ever change that.

@silcoxjakob

6 ай бұрын

The prequels didnt age well people just have nostalgia for them. Theyre still terrible movies

@Finn2187_

6 ай бұрын

@@silcoxjakob Yes they did age well. You're saying the same thing as me with different words. If people have nostalgia for them now, that means they aged well. Toy companies would not be making toys from those movies now if they haven't aged well. I never said they were great movies. I said they have a great story, unlike the sequels.

@silcoxjakob

6 ай бұрын

@@Finn2187_ You dont know what ageing well means it has nothing to do with nostalgia

@Finn2187_

6 ай бұрын

@@silcoxjakob welp sounds like you're triggered because you don't like the prequels. The definition of nostalgia literally states affection of something from the past, with happy personal associations. So someone has affection and personal happy association with the prequels, but that doesn't equate to "aging well" ? Now you're ignoring the truth because you're triggered

@silcoxjakob

6 ай бұрын

@@Finn2187_ You are forsure a 12 year old

The difference between the prequels and the sequels is take away all the VFX and CGI, clunky dialogue etc fundamentally the story of the prequels is top notch and follows the heroes journey perfectly in a new refreshing way, the prequels do everything in terms of story completely wrong, Rey practically never fails, knows how to do everything & on top of that the sequels are completely directionless.

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

@cosmicsatanas But that way Disney knows there’s still a market for Legends and may continue that.

I was a bit younger when the prequel trilogy came around. I had already watched the original trilogy at the time, but I was 4 when TPM came out and 7 for AotC. I'm pretty sure I first watched and grasped both around that time, and I really loved them. RotS came out when I was 10 and it was *the* hype film to watch, and it did not disappoint. To this day, it remains my favorite Star Wars film. I cannot speak for the sequel trilogy. I have yet to bring myself to watch it after initially seeing the pandering that was TFA trailers, but I can say that it feels like a byproduct of the "boomer age" of Star Wars. The ones convinced that the original trilogy (particularly ESB) will always be the best, and that while the sequel trilogy had its faults, "You weren't there, man! You weren't an adult getting your childhood ruined by Jar Jar and Jake Lloyd!!" as if us former prequel kids had no room to say anything. And in turn, TFA had been made for *them*. Still, I do like some of what's come out of the Disney age of Star Wars. Having played Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order and Jedi: Survivor recently, I can see the development of going from a pretty alright game and story to something I can consider great, and it all fairly consistently flowing through like before. All with some cheesy dialogue, heartfelt moments, and memorable characters: much like I appreciated back in the day with Star Wars.

Their's no time skip between The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker takes place a only a year later , and the trilogy over already .

They aged well because they kept to the core principles of the originals. I watched them with my brother, father, and grandfather.

@claytonveno3710

6 ай бұрын

You mean the Prequels right? cuz the Sequels that's a hard NO.

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

@@claytonveno3710Please read the EU/Legends

@claytonveno3710

6 ай бұрын

@@keepmovingforward1722 I already have.😉

@EnlightenedTurtle

6 ай бұрын

@claytonveno3710 opinions are like arse holes... I liked them, why ? good casting, good fight scenes, Star Wars music, lightsabres, space battles, with the galaxy on the line like it was a wrestle mania he'll in a cell.. lit. aand not to mention the human elements of love, fear, and valour, ect, that all good stories need. They aged well because no green haired lesbo took charge and injected left wing geo political values into every scene.

The sequels don’t even tell a story. What is the trilogy even about? There’s no real cohesive story at all

as someone who doesn't read books or comics, they need to pull out another TCW to flesh out a lot of characters. i would like to know more and maybe get attached more to let's say kylo, maz, snoke, phasma, dj and so on. finn maybe will get explored more with the new movies. but with only the 3 sequel movies, there's not much to get attached really. i still think there is a little bit of potential but let's see.

Also I liked your point about the sequels. If they would have made the story about Luke and how he continued on past ROTJ, and then do the passing of the torch to rey. Give us time to see who she is, what her struggle is, and then see Luke to choose to have her become a leader

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity EU/Legends novels had characters that earned their spot

@michbenny1363

6 ай бұрын

Exactly this! I have no problem passing the torch to Rey but not in the way of diminishing Luke. CREED and Creed 2 gave Rocky a great send off.

All of the worst issues of the Prequels were, if my memory is serving me, unrelated to the narrative. There are things that make us roll our eyes, but nothing that literally takes the narrative out back and shoots it with dirty bullets. That, is what the sequels did. removed any potential for interesting enemies going forward, ruined the end of the OT cast's stories, and insulted the intelligence of the audience. I'll never be able to look at the sequels as anything other than a cash grab and a failure.

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity The EU has heart and soul, no cash grab

If you don't know why the sequels are hated you could think that they will age positively. If you know better though, it is clear they will be forever hated as the destroyer of real (George Lucas) Star Wars. Pretty sure some day when Disney loses the rights to it or Disney changes for the better, this first Disney Star Wars fan fiction will be put in the trash and rebooted starting after "Return of the Jedi".

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity Give the books a try, please

I was born after the release of all three prequels. My first exposure to Star Wars was seeing Episode VII in theaters (so, in a sense, I would call folks like myself the 'sequel generation' of Star Wars fans, similar to the way Star Wars Theory is a member of the 'prequel generation'). I watched the prequels after seeing Episode VII, and then the original trilogy after that. I haven't seen Episode VII since 2015 (and don't plan to watch it anytime soon) and didn't bother with VIII or IX. I think that says a lot about the way the sequels will likely age.

Even during the time, no one really shat on Episode III. The prequels as a whole were hated, but it had at least one killer movie. I remember seeing Episode III promos for years after the movie debuted. It got a book, a video game, etc. The sequels didn't have any movie like that on release. They were all divisive on release, yes even TFA but granted, much less. The internet meme'd the movie into being ANH ripoff. All the sequels had going for it was the mystery around Rey was. It was pure division after that. So I think you're right, they won't age as well because they didn't have one movie that started as well. People watch the prequels now and the rationale is "alright we're gonna watch 2 meme filled movies to get to the one that SLAPS."

I love this new Star Wars Theory! I feel that you are more you and no holding back.

The prequels actually added multiple things to the universe of star wars that we love to this day like clone wars content, darth maul, music, pod racing and sooo much more. The sequels added nothing but confusion and hate

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity The EU/Legends even expand even further

@imaooo954

6 ай бұрын

@keepmovingforward1722 sadly for you this person has read multiple legend books. Yet I'll still stand on the sequels being hot garbage. If you got a problem with that idc

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

@@imaooo954 I haven’t watched the sequels except for Ep 7. The reason I don’t hate on them is because I simply don’t care. I have the EU, that’s my canon.

It's quite possible, because as they do things worse and worse, the older things will be seen in the future as not being so bad.

Objectively speaking phantom menace and attack of the clones are still kinda hard to get through but no one can deny the greatness of revenge of the sith.

I think another thing you didnt mention is the kids. Like how we were into the prequels as kids, kids today dont seem to be into the sequels the same way. Whats the first thing that comes to mind when you think of what kids love about star wars? Mandalorian. Thats what kids are into nowadays, not the sequels. And Im honestly glad for that.

I think Rogue One and Andor will be remembered fondly. I don't think anything else will really gain a resurgence

@Jammet

6 ай бұрын

Full ack.

I wish that they had made the last 3 films about Luke and Layla instead of new characters I hope they come out with a series about Luke and Layla

I'm 35 and I was the same way. And I feel similarly. I have been questioning my dislike of the characters of the Sequels as perhaps something like the critics of the Prequels. But I doubt they will grow on me personally. If I was 17 now perhaps...

I hope George comes back somehow and helps restore balance. I think even just as the first man to come to for ideas and have brilliant minds/directors to realize his vision. It’s a pretty simple fix imo. But idk. We’ll see what happens moving forward 🤷🏼‍♂️

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity George won’t comeback but hey all the novels he approved and were released under him aren’t going anywhere

Revenge Of The Sith>>>>>ST. Still the best Star Wars movie, in my honest opinion

@mr.3053

6 ай бұрын

Exactly my thoughts

I think their aging will depend on what Dave and Jon can do to fill in the missing back stories

@Ludwig1970

4 ай бұрын

Which is nothing because it’s so convoluted that at some point the constant retcons and “fixes” just creates lore vomit. And no intellectual will accept it as a well executed story.

I personally think Attack of the Clones is pretty mid outside the Yoda duel at the end but overall I agree episode 1 and 3 were great films and I watched them around the same age as you. That said I think you are spot on with the new sequels just bad writing to cash in on an Ip.

I believe the only Disney Star Wars project that will age as nice as the prequels will be Solo since the film isn’t as bad as people made it out to be at the time.

@windfire05

6 ай бұрын

Solo is the worst Star Wars movie.

@Dylan-bn9lv

6 ай бұрын

@@windfire05 You say that when The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker exist.

@windfire05

6 ай бұрын

@@Dylan-bn9lv The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker are the best Star Wars movies.

It all depends on the new trilogy. Whilst I think episode 8 is really bad. I think 9 can have a better view based on the next steps of Rey and Finn.

@pop-culturecinephile8144

6 ай бұрын

That’s a good point, but they weren’t explored very well. Though I still see your point

@finchborat

6 ай бұрын

9 showed JJ should've directed all the sequel films.

@aliastheabnormal

6 ай бұрын

I doubt it. Jay Boyega has disowned the character. That's why they are using Rey again. Since she is a robot devoid of free will and agency.

@pop-culturecinephile8144

6 ай бұрын

@@finchborat, 7 was OK and I think he would’ve improved it a bit in the followups

@aliastheabnormal

6 ай бұрын

@cosmicsatanas What was Rey's actress named again? I think it was Troy Burrows.

Nah, the prequels turned into a fine wine. The right things were added after, it had consistency, respected it's audience as well as their intelligence (children and adults alike) and it added to the original story. The Sequels is more akin to milk, first one not too shabby and a fun reintroduction to the universe (until you realize the amount of Mary Sue mess that could of been shrugged off if they handled the other two right) and then the other two come in like sun and bacteria making an unholy mixture and instead of using almost any of the canon they added hogwash. Even the fact that they barely had any success with things related to that timeline says a lot. Honestly, I know part of it was Disney's deal with EA, but how many games could you honestly make with what they provided?

Prequels did something, they took existing source material and built on it and in some ways even improved the original trilogy, if you watch it in chronological order it makes sense. Characters had a backstory that made sense, you could understand why Yoda forced himself into exile, why Obi-wan (Alec Guinness version) seemed traumatised. It made sense. There was substance. The sequels were all about projecting disney's ideals and PC views on the world whilst trying to grab as much cash as possible from cute alien merch. They destroyed a lot of lore, a lot of the characters had just been completely changed without any reason being given as to why. Where the prequels had done such a good job making the transition to the OT, the sequels was anything but a seamless transition. I think the first movie wasn't that bad. It left a lot of character development and intrigue up to be made for the following movie, it set characters up and they were somewhat interesting, they had motivations and I could have seen it going in a positive direction. However, Rian Johnson came in and destroyed everything, that movie was a s*** show. Killed off beloved characters, destroyed every bit of source material it could get its hands on and was all in all just something that a disney exec with a brain should have just deleted off the hard drive. Taken the production cost loss and rolled with it.

Prequels are SUPPOSED to age. They were set a long time ago! That's the idea of things set at an earlier time. They are supposed to feel old, because they are actually from an older time!

I have a feeling in a few years we'll start to see a lot of younger people come out in defence of the sequels, very similar to what's happened to the prequels, but I think what the difference will be is that all these people will rewatch the movies as young adults and realise how disconnected and disjointed that whole trilogy is. I've tried rewatching them myself, but it's so hard. I feel like none of the characters have really earned the love and respect that disney wants the audience to have for them. All of the characters of the sequel trilogy feel like an afterthought. I think people will try to put it on the same level as the prequels but will fail because of all the problems the sequel trilogy brought to the franchise. The prequels had that Star Wars vibe and Filoni, for the most part, has maintained that vibe throughout The Clone Wars and other shows. The sequel movies don't have the same vibe, they feel kinda faux Star Wars, in my opinion. You could even completely delete them from the franchise, and they wouldn't even make a dent. I've been thinking for a while. If they released everything disney related differently, it could have been better. If they released the shows before the new movies or focused on smaller things like TV shows and Video Games that slowly showed, the genisis and built up to the first order, basically what a lot of the Disney+ shows are doing now and lead into the sequels, it could've been better. I would've much rather waited 15/20 years since Revenge Of The Sith for a sequel trilogy. Rather than releasing a sequel trilogy 10 years after ROTS without any planning, even allowing George Lucas to have some input to make it more cohesive and some what connected to the films before, rather than Disney just being money hungry and having the movie released 3 years after the acquisition of Star Wars. All in all, if they took their time, planned out a story and made an effort to connect it properly with both the OG and Prequel, it could've been a better move.

@MrSuperbear90

6 ай бұрын

get a life

The prequel trilogy is my favourite star wars trilogy, it has the best lightsaber battles in my opinion and I liked the story they were telling overall of Anakin's fall from grace.

I NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THOSE PURPLE STAR DESTROYER LIGHTS IN THE BACKGROUND THEYRE SO COOL!!!

We need the sequels to be rebooted.

@Amp661

6 ай бұрын

No we don't. The damage is done. Leave them aone

@JordanWheeler1999

6 ай бұрын

@@Amp661 time for george to get the rights back lol

I’m first theory!!! Plz pin and heart!

@monkemonke7936

6 ай бұрын

u were not first

@anonamos_

6 ай бұрын

@@monkemonke7936 Yes I was click newest and scroll to the bottom

@ihavethehighground732

6 ай бұрын

@@monkemonke7936haha he was though. Got to newest he’s at the bottom.

I agree. The only possibility of one day looking back on the sequel trilogy with anything resembling fondness is if even greater abominations follow, and even then they will only by juxtaposition.

I had a ten movie Star Wars marathon with a friend recently who had somehow reached 31 without ever having seen Star Wars. She enjoyed the prequels aside from making a few comments about how cheesy some of it was, she loved Rogue One, she absolutely loved the original trilogy, her comment on TFA was "I mean, it was okay but forgettable", TLJ was "...did they actually watch the previous movie before making this? Or any Star Wars movie?" and ROS was "This movie feels like it was directed by someone on crack on their last day at work who wanted to ruin everything before they left."

The Prequels only got good after The Clone Wars. I grew up with them too. I never felt a need to rewatch them, but I was super excited and happy when they came out. It was really Rebels and The Bad Batch that really made me care about the Prequels

@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment

6 ай бұрын

THIS!!! The Prequels have the advantage of the spinoffs that helped clean things up. Eventually the Sequel Era will have the same.

I dunno, not a fan of the sequels but I think they’ll resurge in popularity in a few years when Gen alpha grows up

@wuhhhhhhh

6 ай бұрын

Honestly, i really hope this is the case. Sure the sequels messed up a lot and didn’t have that great a story, but to get back to a point where the fandom is more positive towards these movies will be really good overall. We need less toxicity, not more.

@wuhhhhhhh

6 ай бұрын

We should get content that helps to tie the sequels together better, like how TCW reshaped how people view the prequels

@DarthJarJarTheGodlike

6 ай бұрын

@@wuhhhhhhh blud forgot to swap accounts lmao

@wuhhhhhhh

6 ай бұрын

@@DarthJarJarTheGodlike nah, I’m just continuing my point

@Eric-jz1cv

6 ай бұрын

I think it’ll age better too. I’m a prequels kid. And even though I love them they have some serious writing flaws that you have to overlook to enjoy. I rewatched with my girlfriend and their were just moments that made her laugh and were ridiculous.

The main thing I didn’t like about the originals was the whole Luke and Leia thing. I get that Lucas had planned more films to introduce the sister but he should have kept Leia as the love interest and ditched the whole twin thing instead.

I know I will get a lot of hate for that but hear me out, I believe they will age great, maybe not like the prequels, but great. I am now 16 and I was 8 when the force awakens came out and it was an event everybody was counting days till the movie, we were exchanging collectable cards, on one day we were dressing up like Star wars characters and had little fights with our lightsaber, and it was not just me and my friends, no literally anyone at my school boys and girls. As the movie got out, we wouldn't care if it was good or bad, because it was the first memories and feelings we collected with Star wars weeks before the movie and we all thought and still think it's an amazing movie, we know it is the plot of episode 4 mostly but we could live through this amazing time as well, like all the older generations watch episode 4 all together or episode 1. The hype around episode 8 wasn't that much, but still everyone was talking about it, and again no complaining, probably because we were to young or we just didn't want to complain. Episode 9 was a bit of a different story cause we were older, and I personally don't like episode 9 and parts of episode 8 as a fan, however people aren't huge fan but still love Star wars were often enjoying the movies. I believe when my generation gets older the sequels won't be hated that much.

The prequels was always amazing to me. The new trilogy may hold a place in the new generations heart.

@mr.3053

6 ай бұрын

As a millenial, it doesn't

@Chosen_one_501

6 ай бұрын

@@cosmicsatanasidk man. I can only speak for myself and those I’ve interacted with. This is coming from someone who was 10 when TFA came out, but the sequels were terrible. Like, even in 2015, I hated that movie. The prequels are byfar my fav trilogy and nearly everybody I know who’s a Star Wars fan around my age feels the same. The sequels just didn’t connect with kids the way the first two trilogies did.

Rey Skywalker is the best Jedi ever no other Star Wars character holds a candle to her 🔥

@pegasuskiller9905

6 ай бұрын

Nice joke

@MaxAndersonn

6 ай бұрын

@@pegasuskiller9905no joke 🤔

@Sabrac-Unbound

6 ай бұрын

Were not biting bud

@MaxAndersonn

6 ай бұрын

@@Sabrac-Unboundyou just did bite to it 🤣

@deviljin2067

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

his Obsession with Anakin now makes sense why he does the Hayden Anakin voice so well LOL

In my version of the sequels, I would have Ahsoka’s videos of Anakin teaching her at Luke’s Jedi Temple. Anakin as a ghost would guide both of them as they teach. I would have Grogu speak to Yoda as a ghost and Leia and Ahsoka would get on very well because Ahsoka knew Padmé well.

Since the lack of overarching vision in the ST is what highlighted the value of the PT having one, I think the sequels will only truly improve in hindsight if a hypothetical X through XII have their own set of problems completely different from the previous trilogies'.

We have to remember though that the kids who grew up with these films, will love them as much as we love the prequels, we can’t degrade their opinions and love because we didn’t grow up with the same Star Wars.

I always LOVED all Star Wars movies. I saw all of them as a kid. Attack of the Clones was and still is my least favourite, because of the Anakin/Padme romance, which was always a total cringe fest, but the world building and the overall story of Prequels is amazing and on par with the OT. The fights and battle scenes are some of the best in Cinema, and the artistic design as well. OT did a lot of things better, especially the dialogue, hehe, but Prequels were never bad in my opinion.

Another major thing to consider: The OT created a global fan base that lasts to this day. The Prequels, although heavily criticized, STILL created a new generation of fans. Has Disney SW created a new generation of fans? Has that trilogy created new fans? New fans that intend to pass it on to their younger siblings & children as the OT & Prequels fans did? Nope! The drop-offs at the box office alone speaks clearly for itself. TFA only brought in 2 billion dollars because of the hype from the first trilogies that had aged well. Ep 8 & certainly 9 dropped paying customers since TFA in an insane rate. That is no sign of anything aging well already here & now in real time. There's no need to wait a few years, the result is already crystal clear. Where is the new & next generation of SW fans that saw the sequels first? I know they exist but they are few & far in between compared to the previous trilogies. The differences are palpable. If this new trilogy had sparked a new generation of fans we would constantly hear, see & feel the excitement & the buzz for SW. But we don't. No one watches the new shows. Everything is going down. The Galactic Starcruiser hotel, based on this new trilogy, barely lasted a year. Because there are no fans of it (& the insane prizes that gives you no real SW). Everything being said online is negative, if anyone says anything at all. Where are these new fans? Fans that love & support this new trilogy & its characters? And are willing to pay for it? Where are they? I don't see or hear them. If they were there this would be aging well. But it's not aging well, it's not even aging at all. It is dead. If it has no loyal fan base it is dead.

I'd say we will actually dislike the sequels more as we continue to discuss and find out more about them.

Even when people didn't like the prequels I think few will doubt that they had iconic moments and characters. Whether it's Maul (and his fights in ep1), Slave1 with the depth charges, light saber duels in general, even jar jar 😂 It's these moments that allow the prequels to age gracefully. Nothing in the sequels comes close. I cannot remember any defining moment in any of them.

I always liked Dave and John's concepts. They've been great. I just think they really need someone like Tony Gilroy as you said, to keep things making sense.

@keepmovingforward1722

6 ай бұрын

People will go out of their way to hate on the sequels everyday but won’t sit down and read an EU/Legends novel Instead of complaining, put your money to a better continuity There’s plenty of EU/Legends novels that have writing similar to Tony Gilroy

@duncandonuts5268

6 ай бұрын

@@keepmovingforward1722 Complaining is voicing opinions in hopes that future content will be improved. If people don't complain, things rarely get any better. With that I do agree people should support the old EU novels.

I mean the way we could predict this is to analyze whether the kids today who are between like 10-18 who grow up with sequels like characters like Rey, Kylo, Poe and what are the sales numbers of toys related to the sequels compared to the originals and the prequels. I think the answer is no but obviously I don’t know that many kids but what is 100% sure that when I was a kid, everyone was obsessed with the prequel themed Star Wars games, Lego’s, action figures and we were excited to watch the Clone Wars on Cartoon Network. People also have to remember that a lot of the characters in the prequels are the same characters which we see in the originals so it was easy to like them because if you liked Obi-Wan, Yoda or Palpatine in the originals then why wouldn’t you like them in the prequels? However, this is not true for the sequels because Han was barely in it, Leia wasn’t as like-able as in the originals and Luke wasn’t treated with the respect he deserves.

I think the 4 and 6 were well made, costumes and all. I'm nit picking think 6 could have used a little more environment rather than serving as the back drop to a short scene to be reused for a fight. Also alot of sharp page turn cuts for traveling rather than letting moments breathe enjoying characters but the movie is more about moments and interactions, than the characters.

Man i remember watching your channel years ago before the sequels completely disconnected me from star wars related content. Probably around a year or so later I stumbled on Mauler and Jay exci then realized there was a podcast called efap and started watching that. Now with the recent happenings Im back here and ngl i missed this channel. To many more years with you my good man keep doing what you do

@kursatrecepdeniz705

6 ай бұрын

Also i think in terms of the legacy of the prequals, my first star wars content was clone wars on cartoon network. Im a 22 year old i was not around to even witness the prequal movies. Clone wars got me into star wars, battlefront 2 made me have an idea of the OT. I watched all the movies later in life, when force awakens was already announced. The amount of beloved content the prequals gave life to made me fall in love with the brand, and then watching the actual movies made me enjot it even more. Things that come out with sequals and the sequals themselves do not seem to have the same impact. My sisters friends who are in middle school, none of them care about star wars. The new content through sheer lack of quality fails to attract newer fans into star wars but manages to distance old ones. From my interest in soccer i know that when a team is not succeeding like they used to they also fail to attract new fans and end up damaging their legacy; going through bad phases is acceptable but when you learn about the old glories and see what it has come to now the new generation just doesnt get the same connection. I think thats what stands in the way of sequals getting a good legacy in the future. The prequals were not good movies but the ideas in the movies and seeing those ideas come to life in other media attracted people my age regardless of the movie quality. Im 22 now the prequals had started before i was born but it was their legacy that made me like star wars and made me keep watching them, now after all these years star wars has people in my demographic to keep talking about it and keep the brand alive in a sense. With the sequals though you dont get that new fanbase created and you distance the old, even the people that enjoyed the movies when they came out are slowly moving on from them because even if you have the best visuals the story and characters are what keep you connected and those arent there. Sequals legacy will fall rather than get better since they cant get new fans or keep the old ones. Even if, hopefully, star wars returns to being great the sequals wont be looked upon fondly, then new things coming out will be hailed as what saved star wars.

Nearly every kid I’ve spoke to that likes Star Wars loves the sequels I think once they grow up and make their voices heard we’ll see a massive wave of people liking the sequels

Great vid. 100% agreed

My biggest problem with the sequels (there's so many) is that it doesn't make sense as a trilogy..the 3 films feel like people fighting eachother

You are exactly right in the first six movies they’re trying to tell a story in the last three thorough like Look at the light sabers the force third Star Wars right

I've also seen a post saying "Well, Palpatine returned in Legends, so therefore Rise of Skywalker is good!" Sure, Dark Empire wasn't the best, but it was executed far better than Rise of Skywalker ever was.

I’m saving your video to watch later but wanted to comment real quick. I agree that these videos will age like the prequels. When the prequels came out I wasn’t a fan. Even now when I watch I still have a hard time at certain scenes, however Lucasfilm and now Disney-Lucasfilm has built up a lot of lore starting with the clone wars. This stuff started to get me interested in prequel material. Now when I watch the prequel I find it more digestible and even enjoyable (part 3 was always awesome). Disney will have a lot of work to do to tie new lore into the sequels but I think it’s possible, especially if we see the rise of Snoke and the first empire the fall of Kylo, even how the emperor was pulling the strings all this time, maybe even see Poe’s parents in action as they have already been brought up in the past, and of course I think we have to have our original 3 in there somewhere. I believe even Hux’s father has already been mentioned. As far as Rey goes, we don’t really need her story line as she didn’t do anything relevant until the force awakens. If Disney builds this out and gives us stepping stones to the sequel, despite how uneven it was and how it never really tied to anything, I think then the sequels can age like the prequels. Problem is the sequels was such a mess that it’s going to take a lot of building. Prequels foundation was there it was just the clunky dialogue and acting directions and those stupid accents which almost bordered on racist that killed the prequels. However with just a little story telling in the clone wars it made it easier to digest at least for me. Okay I am rambling and I need to go to bed. Just my thoughts. Will watch this video later

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The Force Awakens might age quite nicely and develop a cult following in the future, I mean none of us can deny how hyped up we were for the trailer back in 2015, and back then sure there were mixed reviews, but there was also a LOT of good reactions, and the theaters were absolutely buzzing in a way ive never seen since. 8 and 9 are really likely to fall to the wayside and be left in the dust of their own mediocrity, but I wouldn't be surprised to see 7 become a classic.

For anything to age well over time it needs to have a loyal following. A positive following. That's it. And that alone should tell anyone that the sequels, unlike the OT & the Prequels, is ALREADY not aging well! We have still fresh & brand new SW content out right now in Ahsoka. No one is talking SW, unless it is to criticize it or speaking far more fondly of the Lucas era of SW. No one, not even those that claim to love it, even shows that trilogy any attention, positive as negative. That means it is not aging at all, it is already a buried corpse that no one remembers, & certainly not with fondness. Is anyone excited for the Rey movie that is the sequel to this trilogy? I don't even hear any anticipation from the insane Reylo's! Why? Because they never cared for Rey alone, they wanted Rey to rescue Kylo. Kylo is now gone. And Rey on her own appeals to nobody. If this trilogy was aging well like the older stuff we would want a continuation with its lead protagonist with all sense & reason. But since this trilogy 100% lacked sense & reason nobody cares. And when nobody cares nobody remembers. And when a story is forgotten it is NOT aging well. So the answer is already, even since Ep 9 came & immediately went, that this trilogy will never age well because no one even wants to remember it, not even those that claim to be fans of it. Because where are they? Things can bomb at the box office & yet become super classics later on, like Blade Runner. Because the few who saw it kept it alive & passed it on, because it was worthy to remember. And the effects & passion going into it was so good from the beginning so even if the film is old it holds up, in particular since it created its own style & vision & sound etc. Disney SW is only copying & pasting. Besides for Grogu's baby sounds, what new sound effects have they given us? Not a single one! SW sounds effects used to be legendary & revolutionary. Now they can't even give us a single new sound to anything at all. Not one. And, trust me, my sharp ears have listened for it & found nothing. Things can not age well if they don't bring in something new that appeals & that people want to remember. And speaking of Grogu, he is a brand new character that worked & appealed to many... BUT! He was not a new design. When he peeked up underneath his blanket in Mando Ep 1 season 1 all our love & admiration for Yoda was projected on to this little guy. It took 1 1/2 seasons for us to even finally learn who Grogu really was, that he has a name & identity of his own. And his arc has now been cut short since he was taken from Luke way too early. So, no. This is NOT aging well. They don't create anything new that lasts & even the stuff that do work they don't protect & care for as they should. And all the old they humiliate & destroy. Have they created any new score music worthy of the SW past? TFA had some stuff going but the rest ever since has been really bad. Some themes for Rogue One, Mando & Boba Fett were good & stood out but ever since Kenobi the new "music" has been crap. I don't see what people say is so special about the score in Ahsoka, I hear they are playing music but I can't feel it because it doesn't reach out to me like SW scores used to. The new music is discrete. The scores for the first two trilogies were characters of their own basically & one could play any track & immediately identify from what movie, scene & moment it was from! Who can do that with the new? No, it is NOT aging well! It has no identity. It has no meaning. It has no professional passion. It has no respect. It will never age well. Because it is already dead.

The best way to tell this is what the kids think. Older Star Wars fans were quite critical of the prequels, but the kids loved them. Do kids today love the sequels? Do they have the kind of attachment to Rey, Poe, and Finn that prequel kids did to Anakin, Padme, and Obi-Wan? If not, then today's kids probably won't have any kind of adoration for the sequels when they become adults.