Just as the writers and directors of films get their opinions turned into major motion pictures, I believe everyone is entitled to an opinion. Here's mine.

@bemotivated8443

3 жыл бұрын

Star Wars Theory Great video could you Cover some more legends story lines like breakout squad?

@macewindu2698

3 жыл бұрын

Can you react to kenobi by hero’s fan production I’ve been asking this for months now and it is a really good video. It’s not the fan film

@4.aj_el

3 жыл бұрын

Star Wars Theory thank you for sharing your thoughts. We all might have different views but we all love Star Wars.

@_fulcrum

3 жыл бұрын

I agree in lots of ways.

@iam_FLAME

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more with this video.

When Luke Skywalker himself doesn't think he's playing Luke, that should be a red flag

@geraltofrivia7484

3 жыл бұрын

Conor Winston shut up man, his comment had nothing to do with politics

@X_Gon_Give_It_To_Ya

3 жыл бұрын

He wasn't playing Luke. He was playing Jake Skywalker.

@JScars8

3 жыл бұрын

@@geraltofrivia7484 Quick question- When did he bring up politics? Judging by the emoji, it appears to be a harmless joke, although I'm relatively young so if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me :)

@d00mshr00med

3 жыл бұрын

D00M SHR00M @JScar8 Apparently the comment was too triggering and problematic for Geralt of Rivia.

@michaelperrine2754

3 жыл бұрын

@@diegopansini3152 Dude...............for that comment id give you a whole horse saddle full of coin. Thanks for making me laugh.

Vader: kills possibly billions of people Luke: there’s still good in him Kylo: has bad dream Luke: he must die

@DT-Wise

3 жыл бұрын

Thats my Son not the one from the Sequels 😒

@emancoy

3 жыл бұрын

It is as if it wasn't the OT Luke Skywalker

@SickMuffens

3 жыл бұрын

Darth Vader - Hey! You left Padme to get space cigarettes and forgot about your children. You had your chance An...I mean, Vader!

@DonVigaDeFierro

3 жыл бұрын

If Ruin Johnson wanted an actual deconstruction, it would have been like in Kung Fu Panda, a superior movie: Ben was turning to the dark, thanks to Snoke's influence, and blinded by idealism, Luke thought that he could redeem him, and never saw that he was turning into Kylo Ren... Then Kylo Ren slaughtered Luke's students, and from that moment, Luke had to live with his failure, and learned that maybe there's no good in everyone.

@batman6621

3 жыл бұрын

my father was space hitler that literally blew up a whole planet full of billions of innocent people, but he still had good in him. my nephew is confused and being coerced by a mysterious darkside user, hes still my student i can talk to him....nah ill slaughter him while he sleeps, thatll show the dark side heehee

When Luke said “my sister” you can really tell how personally invested he is. Mark Hamill really is Luke and he was trying to tell them “this ain’t me”

@truthhertz10

Жыл бұрын

I wonder why he still starred in the film though... so sad.

@thedarkleaf6286

Жыл бұрын

@@truthhertz10 Because he knew that those of us who watched him on that big screen as children and saw that with tenacity and true hope one person can overcome any adversity, would not accept someone else standing there and calling themselves Luke Skywalker.

@veeay-k8398

Жыл бұрын

@@truthhertz10 Because he knows he is the only one who could play that role, especially at that age. They're would be more of an uproar if he didn't take the role because he didn't like it.

Luke Skywalker has been my hero since I was 5 years old. I'm 27 now, and I felt nothing watching him die in TLJ. Yet I cried watching him in the Mandalorian. What does that tell you

@wankertanker1813

Жыл бұрын

CGI characters suck. Recasting Luke would be worse. Had to pass SW off to the next gen some day. Ep7 was the worst, cause it was merely a new, new hope.

@Deity_devil

Жыл бұрын

@@wankertanker1813 it was modern verison of a new hope

@Prophetofthe8thLegion

Жыл бұрын

@@wankertanker1813 it was certainly better then the shit that came after: ep 7 was basically fan service for the sake of fan service. Nostalgic but no substance. The rest was well chaos.

@dylanburton4955

Жыл бұрын

@@wankertanker1813 At least Mark Hamill was involved with it and did stand in for the scenes

Honestly Mark Hamill the actor feels more like Luke than “Luke” from The Last Jedi.

@Unknown-hb3id

3 жыл бұрын

I’d hope so. I don’t need to see any more bad news coverage like “Actor Mark Hamill Pulls Gun on Nephew in Sleep: ‘It was just an instinct!’ “

@AdmiralPureBlood

3 жыл бұрын

Minus his crappy hateful political views

@digheanurag

3 жыл бұрын

White Lives Matter he’s a Hollywood type Neo-Lib, but meh. He’s still a cool guy.

@Dugongpoodle

3 жыл бұрын

yeah lol

@1909_United

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

FACTS: Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni should have been in charge of the sequel trilogy. It would have been BRILLIANT!

@MikePayneTunes

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a fan of the sequel trilogy, but that would have been amazing with Filoni at the helm! Clone Wars was a great show. I'd love to see him get his own trilogy! And since we already have the sequel trilogy, give him free reign and full control for a new one. I guarantee it'll bring the whole Fandom back together

@theriflemaan

3 жыл бұрын

@@MikePayneTunes Filoni, Favreau and Waititi should have done one movie each with the other two as co-directors. It would have been grand!

@dagoelius

3 жыл бұрын

They are not as great as everyone paints them out to be. The Mandolarian is ok but nothing great.

@CKelloggs

3 жыл бұрын

@@dagoelius it's far better than the sequels tho

@thecreator625

3 жыл бұрын

@@CKelloggs That's not a high bar by any metric. Mandalorian is just a Western in space. It's nothing great, nothing memorable, just some simple entertainment with a mcguffin driving a simple plot. Which is fine, but that this is considered one of the best things Disney has done with Star Wars speaks for how absolutely horrible the rest is.

Wait even Mark Hamill wasn’t happy with his portrayal? Man now I understand his tweet after killing it in the Mandalorian

@B463L

2 жыл бұрын

Hamill despised the sequels even more than us fans did. JJ Abrams took a fat, wet shit on Hamill's greatest cultural contribution.

@CojaGamez

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah it was really sad to see. Mark Hamil is so clearly invested in his character that for him to see Luke so butchered must have been hard

@basedkek8297

2 жыл бұрын

@Max only bc they put a gun to his head

@ramoninoodles

Жыл бұрын

@Max he only redacted his statememt bc he aint tryna get im trouble lol

@ramoninoodles

Жыл бұрын

@Max but anyways, Im pretty sure he meant by Ryans view, not the potrayal

I suffer from combat related PTSD... I look at Luke as him having PTSD, however, even with PTSD we wouldn't cower & hide from conflict... especially when it comes to protecting our family....

@wankertanker1813

Жыл бұрын

Every person is different

@Blessed_V0id

Жыл бұрын

@@wankertanker1813 Wow. How you could look a hero who never gave up and say that is either zealous and ballsy or possibly stupid (unlikely). I agree, but I don't think you understand Luke or Mark Hamil at all. A jedi never gives up, to quote them both

@dylanburton4955

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@wankertanker1813 Considering Luke never gave up on Vader who was so much worse then Kylo Ren, it didn’t make sense that he would even contemplate doing that to Kylo. I know he’s not perfect but it still doesn’t work and it’s just lazy on Rian Johnson’s part

@ShadowGirlyz

7 күн бұрын

Why does he have PTSD? What from? He faced his father, and even brought his father back in the end. That doesn't cause PTSD.

the problem was that the people who wrote the sequels weren't star war fans.

@EdwardGutierrez90

3 жыл бұрын

they were just trying to do Disney's buddings and that is hype it up so they can visit their Star Wars themed park and buy all of the toys they offer to the little kids

@morrison3423

3 жыл бұрын

I’m sorry dude but that’s completely falsetto reason ppl originally thot jj was at lest an ok pic was becuz he was a fan I’m not sure about ryan Johnson but jj loved Star Wars he had Little control of those films and Ryan fucked with his views but jj was a fan he loved Star Wars

@morrison3423

3 жыл бұрын

RodianDude oh I think Ryan was a fan but it seemed like he was more interested in progressing his career than the Star Wars franchise

@techno639

3 жыл бұрын

@@morrison3423 Rian loves Star Wars too he actually loves the prequels too although JJ hasn't expressed much love for them, he loves the original trilogy.

@techno639

3 жыл бұрын

That's not true at all, JJ and Rian are huge fans of the franchise. Just because you hated their movies doesn't make them any less of a fan then you.

That was one of the things I was most excited for in the sequels, seeing Luke in action as a Jedi Master. It sucked...

@guts9851

3 жыл бұрын

For real man. Like they just ruined him kinda. It’s just lost potential in my opinion

@techno639

3 жыл бұрын

Luke is more than just a super-powered Jedi master. I wanted to see him be powerful too but I like this emotionally breathtaking darker and sadder story we got with him instead. It was more interesting

@hatguy8225

3 жыл бұрын

He died by using the force What the fuck

@bemotivated8443

3 жыл бұрын

I was hoping we could see some live action legends storylines unfortunately we didn’t get that(i’m halfway through the new Jedi order)

@blackshogun272

3 жыл бұрын

@@bemotivated8443 Disney and (honestly mostly) Lucasfilms fucked up by relegating the EU as storage house relics and glorified past fanfic. Like why would it have been so hard to take the route of DC and make animated movies and continuous comics that stay true to the characters ? But that's not giving the EU the respect it deserves. It deserved to start off with the Thrawn Trilogy and an animated series (like S7 of TCW) to tell all the interesting stories that happen between the main events that take place in the EU. I can't even begin to think about how many awesome games we could've had by now. Ugh, thinking about what "could've been" is depressing af and equally angry as all hell...

I feel the sequels were disrespectful to George Lucas's Luke Skywalker character. I was so stoked when Luke as WE knew him appeared in the Mandolorian. The sequels had so much potential, but they completely dropped the ball. Luke was my hero growing up, and then he was just this wimpy old man.

“Many fans love the sequels...” Where? Who are these people??

@feanorn8409

3 жыл бұрын

There are jsut few of them. Disney even rigged the Rotten Tomatoes audience score for these movies. Thats why some believe that there are many who like these garbage movies.

@hasanwallah7015

3 жыл бұрын

No real fan could like that garbage

@phantom_thief_jk9859

3 жыл бұрын

I like the sequels kill me

@feanorn8409

3 жыл бұрын

@@phantom_thief_jk9859 Its your opinion. I respect that :) I for example really like Solo and Rogue One was decent. But the main movies are a crime against the SW saga imo.

@phantom_thief_jk9859

3 жыл бұрын

@@feanorn8409 so does most of the hivemind think the exact same way. y'all drank the cool aid and there's no way you guys respect that some people like these movies with out feeling that you're superior over liking the other movies.

How to retcon the sequels: Luke wakes up looks around and sees the bottle of green milk he just drank. "Luke, what are you doing?" Luke looks back and sees Mara Jade and Ben Skywalker with several of his students looking incredibly worried. "What happened?" Luke asks "You drank that weird green milk uncle Han sent us then collapsed" Ben answers. "Oh, throw all that shit out. Han got us a bad batch" Luke said "You look terrible what did you see?" Mara asks "Something terrifying but its over now" Luke answers and goes to continue teaching his students.

@d00mshr00med

3 жыл бұрын

Perfection 👌

@CA-yn4iw

3 жыл бұрын

You my friend are a genius

@silentcartographer7685

3 жыл бұрын

This would be amazing haha

@Jedindy

3 жыл бұрын

Haha this is great. I’d love to see a Brickfilm about this!

@AAJillSandwich

3 жыл бұрын

Plot twist that was actually a hallucination because Mara Jade is dead. :|

I don’t understand how Anakin was a force ghost, but never told Ben to stop worshiping his skull helmet?

@geo4408

3 жыл бұрын

I never thought about that, god these movies were fucking stupid

@boya6069

3 жыл бұрын

It might be a long shot but maybe Palpatine stopped him from doing it? Don't get me wrong though I'm really disgusted with the goddamn sequels and most of the people who defend it.

@pkmovies92

3 жыл бұрын

Because he never cared about Anakin, just the dark side of him - Vader.

@stacia114

3 жыл бұрын

@@boya6069 I Mean....here's the thing. George Lucas has said a bajillion times that Anakin was, in fact, the chosen one, and by killing Palpatine in RotJ, he completed the prophecy. But if Palpatine never died and was just cloned and continued to live on, then the prophecy was never fulfilled. Palpatine *shouldn't* have still been around. The Force was balanced by Anakin as his last act. The Sith were destroyed, and with his own death, the last person alive that knew the Sith religion and its secrets was gone. The fact that Palpatine was around at all to do anything COMPLETELY disrespects and invalidates the story told across the first six films.

@pirateman1144

3 жыл бұрын

It's been shown through the extended media that while Jedi become one with the force and get the ghost treatment, Sith tend to tie themselves to specific places or objects that held meaning for them. Like a covetous obsession they can't move on from. Yoda meeting the remnants of Bane in Clone Wars for example. My interpretation of that is Vaders helmet was effectively "haunted" by the last of his darkness and THAT'S what got its hooks into Ben (with some help from Snoke) and cut him off from the Anakin side of the conversation.

I don't see anyone talking about this: From everything we know about being a jedi is that it's a discipline, an intense one. As you face trials and overcome them you build skills within yourself. That's what makes it possible for you to become a master. For Luke to have faced the trial by combat that was facing Vader and Sidious in Return, he had to either win or lose. Learn the lesson, or fall. Here's my main thing; when you learn a skill you don't just up and forget it. When Luke looked down at his mechanical hand and felt the fear and anger that was pulling him to the dark side and said No anyway, THAT was a new skill he learned *Achievement Unlocked*. He knew what the dark side was and rejected it. There is no way that same Luke, would feel the fear of seeing Ben's future and react the way he did, essentially giving into the dark side, even for a moment. Rian Johnson did not respect what Luke learned in Return.

@judaspete

3 жыл бұрын

But human beings don't rank up like an RPG character. There is no "achievement unlocked" in real life, no skill points to allocate to your dark side resistance score. The dark side is more like a drug addiction, every day is a struggle to keep from falling into the trap. This is why the Jedi council found force users as young children, and taught them to abandon all social attachments, and suppress their feelings.

@raafeyplayz7015

3 жыл бұрын

@@judaspete I’m pretty sure the achievement unlock was his exaggeration although I cant speak for others.

@judaspete

3 жыл бұрын

@@raafeyplayz7015 Maybe, but my point is being a Jedi doesn't shield you from falling to the dark side. They went through rigorous training because the dark is such an easy trap to fall into. You're not safe from it just because you resisted it one time. Much like drug addiction, it is something a person will struggle with their whole life.

@omarmansour6766

2 жыл бұрын

@@judaspete is that how low you think of Luke? You agree with how dishonorable they treated his character?

@tropicmix8765

7 ай бұрын

​​@@omarmansour6766they're a Disney shill. What people fail to understand is the fans don't give a fuck if it makes sense or not, people don't pop halo into their xbox to see masterchief playing with barbie dolls. People like Luke Skywalker because no matter how low you are, Luke is ALWAYS gonna have hope. Even if a lot does happen in 40 years, we didn't see it. Noone turns on a star wars movie to see Luke be a loner and try to kill Ben over a dream when his dad was VADER and he was like I see the good in you. We love that because we all need someone like that

Damn, just revisiting this video reminds me how much I feel for Hamill, Luke ment more to him than we could possible imagine😪

“Luke had a personality disorder in these films”. That’s definitely the understatement of the millennium.

@towerbunga

3 жыл бұрын

the Millennium FALCON HAHA haha ha ha....

@kyanzennaro2290

3 жыл бұрын

@You tuber Luke in Mando S2 is legit because he is only like,5 years after beating Vader of course he would be at his peak. Filoni and Faverau are pulling an Anakin where they have Clone Wars as a middle show to explain more of Luke's fall. I feel like the Last Jedi's problems don't lie solely on Luke, but the fact that after 40 years waiting,the first thing the audience sees from their childhood hero is throwing his legacy's lightsaber away as well as..drinking green milk doesn't sit well

@Stigi1996

3 жыл бұрын

@You tuber I'm not even gonna bother explaining why your comment is pure bullshit

@kyanzennaro2290

3 жыл бұрын

@Preston Garvey jeez they sure wrecked the heck out of the Sequel Trillogy I hope Faverau and Filoni find a way to retcon the Sequels for good. The good things that come from it isnt close to the bad

@ravenwhiteduck6460

3 жыл бұрын

@You tuber yeah yeah they did his arc in empire again, just dumber which is why it doesn't work, the fact that he had to relearn shit is the laziest writing I've seen

I know what happened to Grogu in the sequel trilogy, guys. Luke murdered him in his sleep for getting out of line. Directed by Rian Johnson.

@Howlingburd19

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment lmao

@colingreaves4024

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bro. Subverted my expectations and let's be honest that's all that matters!

@nimashahidinia4503

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@Mcluvin231

3 жыл бұрын

Consider my expectations… subverted!

@ruthb7557

3 жыл бұрын

Haha ... Rian would do that. Subvert for the sake of subverting.

When the rise of Skywalker trailer came out and the emperor was confirmed...I thought this was going to explain Luke's hermit behavior...he said the feeling of needing to kill kylo passed in an instant...I took that as: the emperor knew Luke was a bigger threat now then he was the last time they met so he needed to immobilize the strongest part of Luke Skywalker...his heart and soul...I had believed that the emperor waited years for the right moment and found it when Luke had read kylos mind...i figured the emperor had used all his power to break through Luke's impenetrable force barrier to implant a single seed of hate in his mind, which manifested as Luke needing to kill kylo...the emperors efforts paid off because Luke now believed this hateful feeling occured of his own free will, sending him into a spiral of self doubt and later his hermit behavior...I had thought that this deceitful act by the emperor would all he revealed in the last movie, Luke would realized he was duped...come out of his tizzy and re-emerge to face the emperor for the last time...hence the name "The Rise of Skywalker"

@leaderJungle786

Жыл бұрын

My friend this is awesome. WRITE THIS SCRIPT NOW.

Rian: I want them half and half Reality: 90% of fans hate the sequels and 90% of the fans that like the sequels are commoners that have only seen the movies, maybe not even all of them.

@samuelstephens6904

3 жыл бұрын

90%? I doubt that.

@geraltofrivia323

3 жыл бұрын

Ignorant. So ignorant, Mr. Gruber.

@malcolmbunyoli6687

3 жыл бұрын

Facts people are like it's art Star Wars hate to say it is for kids that need hope not turned into a realistic sci-fi drama

@BlueTyphoon2017

2 жыл бұрын

I mean like, yeah, most people who watch Star Wars are commoners who only watch the movies, like, why is that surprising?

@B463L

2 жыл бұрын

Sequel "fans" are just Reylo shipper trash. There's literally nothing interesting in those movies.

Luke was bad in the sequels, but a lot of people don't realise that Han was also bad in the sequels. His character arc in the OT was he was a smuggler only in it for the money, but then he became a resistance hero and fought with the rebellion. Then, in the Force awakens, he's back to being a smuggler. J.J. Abrams ruined Star Wars as much as Ryan in my opinion.

@rishavchakraborty7190

3 жыл бұрын

To be honest, abrams did things for just shock values but not keeping in hindsight what consequences a movie like episode 7 could have. Just to make them recognizable, he retconned character development with han, and unnecessarily bounded luke to that island. And all for his mystery boxes.

@thebadpilot8161

3 жыл бұрын

@@rishavchakraborty7190 I don't know what people expected from him. I mean, when was the last time he made something that didn't turn into a disappointing, nonsensical trainwreck with terrible payoffs to his "mysteries" for little did we know, the mystery box was empty the whole time...now that is the real plot twist.

@rishavchakraborty7190

3 жыл бұрын

@@thebadpilot8161 you know what, that really is an empire strikes back level twist.

@thebadpilot8161

3 жыл бұрын

@@rishavchakraborty7190 More like The happening, by M.Night shamalan.

@CrimsonSkull

3 жыл бұрын

@Satanic Panic Fun and Games You're right, my bad

Vader: Literally slaughters millions of people and brought about the darkest era in Jedi history. Luke: I feel the good in you. Kylo Ren: Has some darkside dreams. Luke: Your free trial of life™ has expired.

@jakegraham7265

3 жыл бұрын

Vader was his father, he had emotional investment in him.

@kareemismail3744

3 жыл бұрын

@@jakegraham7265 his nephew, who he had also helped raise vis a vis a father he never knew and who cut his own hand, froze his best friend, and tried to turn him to the dark side.

@jakegraham7265

3 жыл бұрын

@@kareemismail3744 Yeah but that's a nephew, he was feeling "meh" His father and him had an actual family bond.

@tobysmith7133

3 жыл бұрын

@@jakegraham7265 sorry but he raised his nephew for around 15 years and knew his father for around a couple of hours

@jakegraham7265

3 жыл бұрын

@@tobysmith7133 Exactly, and he still tried to save his dad despite him being a galactic Hitler but his nephew was an instant execution? Lol...

How can a guy who believed in literally the 2nd most evil man in the world(and convince him to do one last good thing in his life), fail to try to help a kid who’s going through a rough time(and is prob depressed cuz that’s what teenagers do), and instead immediately try to kill him? I mean darth Vader was a man who was living a life of darkness for years on end and still decides to help him, but then his own nephew who’s still a kid and is literally unable to have so much darkness in his life becomes a little angry or sad(whatever was causing him to dip into the dark side), Luke’s mind suddenly goes Macbeth(excluding the part where the killer gains something out of it), and tries to kill him in his sleep

@Captain_MonsterFart

Жыл бұрын

And why didn't all them force ghosts convince him to stop sulking on an island?

I love this channel so much. I'm a lifelong SW fan and really enjoyed the bold changes of TLJ. Kylo in particular was fascinating, and his growth from TFA was refreshing. I also liked Luke, the galactic Boy Scout, ran into hard times and then lost his optimism for a time. As a grown adult, that's relatable. But our galactic Boy Scout wouldn't have been held down for so long. Maybe he'd be disconnected from it all for a time, I choose to think he'd have a crisis of conscience and realize he's throwing himself a pity party and jump right back in the action. Even if he died to save the remnant of the Rebels, he'd die fighting. And would he REALLY have been ready to kill his padawan because he had the dark side influencing him? Even momentarily?! Luke Skywalker can be a more mature figure, like Yoda or Mace. It's okay to move enthusiastic optimism into regal optimism, especially when he's so wise and experienced. The grumpy curmudgeon didn't have to last as long as it did in order to get the story of failure and teachable moments across. I still like TLJ for what it was, but I see where you're coming from. Great points, Theory! 💜

@Blessed_V0id

Жыл бұрын

Very mature and wise. I wasn't a huge fan but it aint an awful movie. It's a good one. It just has some slip ups. They should have owned it and said "we should have gone for what the fans want"

The biggest problem with the sequels for me personally is the fact that they feel more like reboots than actual expansions of the universe that justify their own existence

@michaelhodnett431

3 жыл бұрын

I can understand that

@brysonstiles6737

3 жыл бұрын

Force awakens was a new hope 2 Last Jedi was built similar to empire strikes back rise of skywalker didn’t feel like return of the Jedi till about the last 30 minutes

@ryanbridges4042

3 жыл бұрын

bryson stiles that’s the perfect way to sum up the sequels. I 100% agree with you

@agustinalessio

3 жыл бұрын

not even, they dont make sense, not in a political level (politics were erased and replaced by magic -having a black/gay/ female actor isn't politic, just corporation's marketing) and not in story/characters level This is just not Star wars

@nocapongod4255

3 жыл бұрын

Facts tho

And then he walked in on The Mandalorian season two finale AND TOTALLY REDEEMED HIMSELF!

@Howlingburd19

3 жыл бұрын

Just like him, when I saw Luke come in and shred everyone, I was literally crying tears of joy :’)

@blyatman3009

3 жыл бұрын

dont jump the gun. it was astep in the right direction. But still not worth celebrating imo

@soundwavesuperior28

3 жыл бұрын

Calm down - Luke Skywalker had a scene that lasted less than 5 minutes.

@beetlepimp4777

3 жыл бұрын

@@soundwavesuperior28 yeah I wouldn’t say it COMPLETELY redeemed his character, but it was very satisfying to see

@Howlingburd19

3 жыл бұрын

@@soundwavesuperior28 still better than pussy are quitter Luke lol

Me: sees a Star Wars Theory video about liking the sequels Also me: It's treason, then

Who creates a film where you wreck a giant character who is as big as Luke. Then, you want to literally SPLIT the fandom of Star Wars in One film.

@ytbmax9371

2 жыл бұрын

Not even split, I dont think anyone liked Luke Skywalker

Luke was an idealist. He always saw the good in people, even the most evil, like his father, Darth Vader. This is why it made absolutely NO SENSE for him to attempt to kill Kylo Ren in this sleep. It went against Luke's character. Luke wants to bring bad people back into the light, not kill them. If he did it for Vader, he definitely should have done it for Kylo Ren. I mean it's not like Kylo Ren slaughtered a bunch of unarmed younglings. Totally out of character for Luke.

@bemotivated8443

3 жыл бұрын

That is why I like legends so much I have only recently started reading the new Jedi order(it’s great) but it’s more true to Luke’s character

@theshakter

3 жыл бұрын

It made Luke turn to the dark side. You can look at it as if Luke lost his way during the years. Being a jedi master he got over egotistical and his arrogance made him blind. It seems to be a test of a jedi trait. It happened to Dooku when he lost his way through the years

@thedragon1363

3 жыл бұрын

Vader literally was responsible/had a hand in millions of innocent deaths and till the end said nah luke im darth side, but luke still said tHeRe Is gOoD iN YoU. Yet kylo, his own sister's son, had some bad dreams and luke was ready to cut his head off? lmaooo where was obi or yoda to tell luke yoooo what are you doing

@laserman5008

3 жыл бұрын

While Luke is an idealist, I personally never saw a problem with him thinking about killing Ben. He says it was only a quick moment, and also Luke had a similar moment against Vader where he had a moment of rage against Vader. But yeah maybe they probably could of made Luke better

@thedragon1363

3 жыл бұрын

E.E the dolphin how?

Luke Skywalker saved my life. Seven years ago, I went through an event that put me in a very dark place. I was losing myself to the anger and depression. I didn't care about anything or anyone, especially not myself. I knew I needed to get better. In an effort to find myself, I went back to the things I enjoyed in childhood. Chief among them, Star Wars, and my childhood hero. Luke Skywalker. Luke wouldn't run from his problems, he'd face them head on like a Jedi would. He wouldn't abandon his friends or family. If he made a mistake, he'd do whatever he could to fix it. So, I followed Luke's example. I faced my darkness, and overcame. Luke Skywalker saved my life. You can guess how I feel about Sequel Luke.

@SuperFang1

3 жыл бұрын

The Disney Luke is Jake Skywalker lol.

@markrhodes6274

3 жыл бұрын

Reminiscing about your depression and anger and not looking yourself really has inspired me to dig deeper and look at the things I've done in the past that brought joy to my life. Thank you

@claudiusatlas8083

3 жыл бұрын

How did you feel when Luke faced Ben Solo at the end of episode 8? He pretty much did everything you just said.

@donmeers225

3 жыл бұрын

Love your tv work Dylan

@sars910

3 жыл бұрын

@@claudiusatlas8083 he made an impotent Force projection and insulted and belittled his nephew one last time before overdosing on the Force and dying. Truly inspirational stuff. And then some idiots ask why people have a problem with Sequel Luke or Jake Skywalker.

Whenever I hear Dave Filoni talk, I feel like crying tears of joy. You can tell he really really cares about Star Wars, and continuing what George Lucas has left him

That "I want half of the viewers loving the movie and half hating it" simply sounds like a child tantrum and trolling for the sake of it. I really can't respect that kind of mentality.

@speedracer2008

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by child tantrum and trolling? Not saying you’re wrong. I just want to understand what you mean. In my opinion, I understand that not everybody will like a movie and I can see the logic in wanting to make a movie that not everybody will like, as it will foster discussion, which helps make the movie last. Films like Fantasia and 2001: A Space Odyssey were films that people either loved or hated due to how unique they were. They elicited discussion because of how unique they were. They remained relevant because of it. Maybe this is what RJ thought he was doing with Luke’s character. Maybe he thought it would elicit discussion. If he did, then he succeeded.

@hulexable

3 жыл бұрын

@@speedracer2008 I agree those 2 films made people talk, which is great. That same effect was achieved by the original Star Wars. What I meant in my comment is that due to the fact that Star Wars is, and also, was at the time of RJ directing episode 8 a well established franchise it seemed childish to me that he wanted to "reinvent the wheel" only because of his ego as a director. I respect boldness and freshness, when done right. I think a different approach could have been taken, including a well established plan with a solid story spanning the 3 films, but instead, RJ took episode´s 7 world and character building and threw it out of the window just for the sake of it (or at least that´s how I see it). I appreciate your comment, I really enjoy this type of discussions.

@speedracer2008

3 жыл бұрын

@@hulexable I’m glad. We need to have healthy discussion, especially for Star Wars Theory. The last thing his fans should want is for mean things to be said just because of the things he says that they don’t agree with.

@robertcortez4956

3 жыл бұрын

I get wanting to challenge viewers but that’s a little strange direction to go

interesting to see that hamill is more a fan of star wars than disney.

@VelocityFilmsCO

3 жыл бұрын

Well, it would be weird if he wasn’t. Literally was in the first movie.

@fabiomoscadelli7564

3 жыл бұрын

@@VelocityFilmsCO harison ford hated the role of han solo

@hannahcantrell6866

3 жыл бұрын

Fabio moscadelli But does Harrison Ford really like anything?

@CrankyBonesGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Mark Hamill and Luke Skywalker is Star Wars

@fabiomoscadelli7564

3 жыл бұрын

@@hannahcantrell6866 meh his opinion was stupid i mean i hated han because he was macho but he dont mind if indiana jones is macho.

Imagine being the manifestation of a character for most of your prime acting career and someone telling you "its not ur character, you just rented it". Can you imagine how Mark felt? Thats the equivalent of someone taking your only child and saying "this isnt your child anymore" and ripping it away from you.

@ravenchu0193

3 жыл бұрын

Oof! Or like watching your childhood heroes being not themselves and someone saying, “this isn’t your Star Wars, you just watch the movies”

@basketballgirl723

3 жыл бұрын

Disney is the real life personification of the evil galactic empire led by Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy

I must say thank you for making this video. Hearing your perspective on Luke and what he means to you is something I can relate to. Luke is someone who exemplifies hope and I look up to that, however the place that separates me from you and most Star Wars fans is that I love Luke’s arc in the Last Jedi and through it all I still see him as one of the greatest heroes in all of film. The way I view Luke in the film is someone who was so enthralled in the Jedi beliefs that he failed to see the issues the Jedi had. It was the Jedi way and teachings that saved Vader but it was also the Jedi way that alienated Luke from Ben. Similarly to Anakin in the prequels, Ben felt like he didn’t fit in, it was said that he spent lots of time away from his parents while he was training and he felt the draw to the power of the Sith as a way to feel. Luke was teaching that Jedi must keep their emotions in otherwise they would go to the dark side, this is what sealed Luke’s fate he fell to the same mistakes that the Jedi during the prequels fell to with Anakin. When Luke sensed what was going on in Ben he for a split second thought of killing Ben, he was afraid of losing all that he worked for and everything he loves. The thing I find many fans forget is that this was only for a second as Luke instantly stopped himself. It is likely that if Ben didn’t wake up, Luke would have handled the situation better and in a similar way to how he helped Vader. It was simply the fact that Luke feared losing everything, that made him almost strike his nephew down, during the original trilogy he didn’t have as much to lose as he did after the fall of the Empire. When Luke failed he realized that the Jedi were heavily flawed, it wasn’t until Luke met Rey and talked to Yoda once again that he realized that he can work through his and the Jedi’s failure and come out stronger and be the Luke Skywalker of old. I was personally fine with the force projection because he was just trying to buy the Resistance time and trying to get to Kylo. It would have been cool for him to be there but I liked that he died peacefully on Ahch To looking at the twin suns that bookend his journey. When I see Luke I see the hopeful optimistic hero that saw the good in Vader and who learned from his mistakes to see the good in Kylo and in the Jedi. I get why Luke in Last Jedi angers so many people, but I see an amazing character arc that made me love this character even more. Last Jedi isn’t perfect, for example I wish we got more flashbacks to flesh out why Kylo turned. I just hope you can see where I am coming from and sorry for how long this comment is.

You know, about the part of him exiling for 2-3 decades and cutting off force communication with his sister, I think this COULD have made sense, had what I’m about to say been the story line: After Kylo’s destruction of Luke’s academy, and learning new knowledge that there were new forces of evil at hand like snoke - Luke realizes in his old and weary age that he isn’t strong enough to take them, so he spends 30 years discovering more secrets of the force, digging deeper as to how he can defeat the dark side, advancing his training through lightsaber combat and meditation. He speaks to Yoda and Obi Wan, pleading for their knowledge and guidance. So yeah. All in all, Luke is spending this crazy amount of time, trying to become as strong as he possibly can, knowing that he is “the only hope.”

@superior6385

3 жыл бұрын

This is a theory btw. No I don’t like the sequels. I just have about 1000 other theory’s on how to fix them

A huge inconsistency for me is the fact that Luke struggled with dark thoughts himself. After finding out that Darth Vader was his father, Luke legitimately feared that one day he might follow in his fathers footsteps down the path of the dark side. During his final duel against Vader, he nearly struck him down in anger just as the emperor hoped he would. He ultimately chose the path of the light though, and was willing to sacrifice himself in his devotion to the light. You would think that someone who went through that would understand another person struggling with dark thoughts, especially if the person was part of his own family. For Luke to decide that the only course of action was to murder Ben in his sleep completely contradicts everything previously established about the character of Luke, and I hate that Ryan Johnson wrote that into his story.

@whyarenamessohardtocomeupw2916

3 жыл бұрын

Whoa! I've been trying to form into words why that scene is very inconsistent with his character, and I think you did it for me! Thank you!

@SardonicJosh

3 жыл бұрын

So basically it's like saying person A had depressing thoughts but he saved his friend from depression while having those thoughts themselves. Now, after all that, they tell their Nephew with Depression that "Depression Doesn't exist"

@Iliadic

3 жыл бұрын

Johnson doesn't deserver the proper spelling of Ryan. That's why it's Rian.

@loganastrup6870

3 жыл бұрын

It’s funny you bring up that scene of Luke attacking Vader and almost killing him before tossing his lightsaber away in return of the Jedi. To me that’s one of the moments that makes the last Jedi make sense in my opinion. In that moment Luke acts on instinct and emotion and nearly kills his father before stopping himself. Throughout the OG Luke is reckless and impatient and acts a lot on his emotions and instinct. To me it makes sense how he senses the horrible future in Ben and contemplated killing him to prevent that. He only thought of it for a second and he instantly regretted it. To me Luke was very consistent in the last Jedi but everyone sees things differently

@iljagro772

3 жыл бұрын

@@loganastrup6870 Maybe it would make sense when it is maybe 1 week later, but it's was fucking 40 years of Luke becoming the greatest Jedi of all time but then kill Ben, he don't just had a thought he has decided to go kill Ben. Everybody don't would do that and the last person who would do that is the greatest Jedi of all time. The last thing I want to say is that the films were not very intelligent written, you just had to guys who don't know anything about Star wars and just wanted make their own Movie.

A+ This is why I cried when Luke, the real Luke, showed up and kicked ass in the Mandalorian.

Vader: slaughters millions of men, women and children across the galaxy for 30 years "I see the good in you father" Kylo: thinks of the dark side in his sleep "He's too far gone! He must die!" I don't know what you're talking about, clearly the same character

I still remember fondly when I was little, recieving a random book from my mother, seeing it was a Star Wars book, not really knowing there was a book about the series. But I read it, and it was with Han, Leia and Chewies kids, learning the force, and Luke showing up quickly at a scene, those key details remained with me for years. Graned memory is vague, and still is, but I so wish they had done the books, because this didn't feel like Star Wars, the sequals, they at most for me, felt like a fanfic, or maybe set in the Star Wars universe, but not the original Star Wars movies.

I was born in late 1999. I clearly remember watching episode 1 as my first star wars movie, but I didn't really get into it because I was still pretty young. It was really revenge of the Sith that really brought me into star wars, I watched ever other movie with my dad before watching that one. ROTS was incredible from the first beat of the war druma to the funeral of Padme. I read every book I could get my hands on. I had no idea there was so many at the time so I bounced all over the place. I liked the Force Awakens. I hated that Disney had erased the Republic commando and X-wing series. Even fate of the Jedi was a fun read for me. I replayed knight of the old Republic when I was old enough to grasp the little details I had missed as an eight year old. So I walked into theatres brimming with excitement, I noticed the little details, like Finn using the wrong switch on Anakin's lightsaber, the square dish on the Falcon. I really liked it, yeah there were some things I disagreed with, but I have those gripes with AOTC and ROTJ too. That is, until the New Republic got annihilated. A weight settled into my gut, how could Wedge's starfighter squadrons not act against the First Order? Where was Page and his commandos? How could Han abandon his wife and son for smuggling? Kylo Ren took off his helmet. It got worse. I didn't see a dangerous darkside warrior, I saw a kid who was scared, who knew he wasnt doing the right thing. He killed his father. It took me a few days to get back to normalcy. I went through the canon books that were coming out to understand, but that just upset me more because it seemed the New Republic was neutered by Mon Mothma, a cool character in the EU. I was quick to hop on everything I could up until the last jedi came out. I went to see it in theaters of course. I lived and breathed star wars. I saw Luke toss his father's lightsaber off a cliff. I saw the woman-no- the girl (it wasnt till Empire that I think Leia really became who she was, and that briefing she gives on hoth is what every commander should sound like in my mind) who stood up to Vader give up and let her son kill her. It was visually impressive of course, the best visual effects money could get. Why did it feel empty? Why doesn't The Last Jedi feel like star wars? I had been a mando fanboy since Hard Contact, Karen Traviss made me look at the Jedi in a whole new light. But Luke Skywalker, easily the best Jedi of all time, giving up? I hated it. I walked out of the theater confused. I didn't start hating it till weeks later. I haven't finished the last of the neo Thrawn trilogy. I haven't picked up the books that explained what happened to Iden Versio's daughter even though I loved the inferno squadron book. I used to read star wars fanfic all the time, I barely look at it now. I went to The Rise of Skywalker, ready to bury the New Canon. To never talk about it, never read it. I saw the disgrace Rey called jedi training. A jedi shouldn't have to pick up a lightsaber to be known as a jedi. Not by someone who loves the series. Rey never seems like a Jedi. She never seems to get the weight of responsibility a jedi has. She doesn't listen to the force, she never seems to regret killing the people underneath the first order armor she's fighting. The sequels could have been great. I thought my problem with TFA would make the whole story more complex, leading to TLJ reassuring me that the guardians of the light might get old and pass the torch, but they'd still be beacons we aspire to be like. As someone who once wanted with all my being to be a jedi, why does the title feel less than ever? I once wrote an essay. A essay on the importance of cartoons, anime, and comics in a world where parents are absent. Not for school but personally. It was probably awful. We can mess up like Zuko and Anakin; but if we sit down, remember what we were taught we could come back to the right path. Ahsoka teaches us that yes, young people can be annoying, but we should endeavor to let them keep their drive and sense of idealism so that they will try to change the world. Aang was reckless with his powers and burned his friend, he was a coward that ran from his people when they needed him. He became a good man, a good person. Luke was a naive farm boy in the middle of a war, but he never compromised his sense of right and wrong. He saw something horrible and he set himself a goal to fix it. Naruto was a loser. A loudmouthed brat who at the beginning brought nothing to the table but arrogance and noise. Look at the young man the faces down Pein, who he shows mercy to despite the closest thing he had to family had been killed by Pein's hand. There were and are real consequences to the media we consume. The Heros and Villains children see today will show in the adults they become tomorrow. And I think Lucasfilm failed in that solemn duty in regards to the star wars content we've gotten in Episodes 8 and 9. To any who read this, thank you. And may the force be with you.

@freedomforall1712

3 жыл бұрын

Very good comment! I always enjoyed the Clone Wars depiction of Anakin as I have the same leadership qualities and overall similar personality. It helped me to deal with the loss of people and things I care about and helped me to get a different perspective.

@iamthesenate5769

3 жыл бұрын

Good writing my friend.

@jevonipotter2887

3 жыл бұрын

Wow i am amazed and am happy to see that someone else sees what i see in these sequels. I like the force awakens and had just a few minor problems with it, but my analogy to these sequels is taking a first step, solid and secure maybe a little unstable, then the second step crumples under the weight of your step and you start to fall. You grab a rope nearby buts its covered in vasoline. Its kind of a weird analogy when i say it out loud but i think you will understand what i mean. I didnt hate The Last Jedi either i just kept thinking i liked all of the elements of the movie but the execution of it was a monster. My parents actually asked me what i thought about it and i said it had potential. My biggest problem wasnt even luke tbh . Leia’s whole space saving scene just bugged me on a different level 😂

@joelt5994

Жыл бұрын

Disney said that rather then respecting what it takes to be a Jedi.. that they prefer feminism and woman empowerment. That’s how a girl with no training can defeat the great palpatine which even yoda could not do after nearly a thousand years of training. And if you disagree with Disney than you’re sexist and misogynistic. Welcome to woke culture, it ruins everything to touches.

I agree young padawan

@itsmaddogofficial

3 жыл бұрын

Hello there

@kevinspringer4988

3 жыл бұрын

Obi Wan. My father's master.

@darthrevanthedestroyer9003

3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes the negotiator

@obiwankenobi6655

3 жыл бұрын

Hey bro

@_Observer_961

3 жыл бұрын

Hol up

Been following you for atleast 5 years at this point and somehow only just came across this video. You summed up exactly how I feel about it all. Much love my man

I just watched “The Last Jedi” and I agree with your video! Thank you for making it and for being so diplomatic about it as well. Star Wars debates can become so cruel without needing to be. Luke Skywalker is my absolute favorite character in the saga, and so seeing him destroyed in “The Last Jedi” was NOT fun. It’s like you say: writing a character (especially such an iconic one) needs to come from a place of truly considering what the character themselves would have actually done. Luke is, and always has been, a beacon of hope, persistence, courage, and compassion. This film subverts every single one of those traits and tries to make up for it by making him attempt a weird and lame last stand. It’s just not Luke. I get that they were trying to say that all the previous orders had it wrong-but that was something Luke already discovered when he tossed aside the advice he got from Yoda and Obi-Wan regarding Darth Vader. He found that compassion, “attachments” as the prequels call it, is actually something good and beautiful. He knew that previous Jedi ways were wrong. I also understand that they were trying to make the new characters shine. That’s great-but not at the cost of a classic character. There could’ve been another way to remind the galaxy that Luke is a hero without setting him up as the main one. As for the whole “flawed hero” portrait, many people seem to forget how flawed Luke already was. He was overly loyal to people, which often set him off against an enemy he couldn’t defeat. He believed in his cause with his whole heart, something that often lead to him being reckless. His flaws were his strengths taken too far, since his heart was good. Not everyone loses hope as they age or as they experience trouble. That is not everyone’s downfall. They could’ve explored more interesting ways for Luke’s unique character to fail (if they really wanted to go that direction) without giving him an almost completely selfish attitude that went against his very grain. We’ve seen the “depressed and flawed” hero too often now, and Star Wars was meant to have that ethereal and poetic quality of good vs. evil. This idea might be more “modern,” but it’s less Star Wars. Luke is a genuinely good person, and years of peace and training wouldn’t transform him into someone different, but it would make him more of who he was. Thanks again!

The comment Rian Johnson said about how he wants his movies to go to opposite extremes is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. That does not belong in any movie, let alone on such an important story as Star wars. What he did was disrespectful to the characters, to the storyline, to George Lucas and his vision, and to the fans. Especially to the new fans that are now growing up with the new trilogy. They now have a concept that is not right of not only Luke but of what Star Wars is supposed to be in general: a story of true Hope as Filoni said.

@insane_troll

3 жыл бұрын

@RodianDude Just like if you buy a famous painting you have the right to paint a caricature over the top of it.

@Ruylopez778

3 жыл бұрын

@RodianDude I understand that RJ wants to make movies that make an audience feel something, rather than feel nothing, but he's not the right person to *continue* a saga if he isn't interested in making it consistent. Disney bought the franchise because of the built in fanbase that was going to guarantee them money. If you then tell those fans, "SW is what we say it is" and make a shift with characters and tone, then don't be surprised if fans lose interest - especially when all the ideas are recycling or referencing what we already saw.

@Ruylopez778

3 жыл бұрын

@RodianDude So you must have loved how JJ chose to make Rey a Palpatine, then.

@jthompson7024

3 жыл бұрын

@RodianDude There's the saying "just because you can doesn't mean you should" this definitely applies here. Yes he was completely in his rights to do what he did but that doesn't make it a good thing. He doesn't owe anyone anything but he definitely ruined what a lot of people loved

@CaesiusX

3 жыл бұрын

@RodianDude I might agree with you if he was helming an indie film, like what he's used to. But *Disney* didn't pay billions to bring in only half the money they could have. Despite any high minded words about _art,_ this is a film franchise _intended to make money._ And the *fans* are your core *consumers.* I'm certainly not the first to make this analogy, but when you go to McDonald's to get a Big Mac, you don't want them to hand you a box of lima beans. Your customers won't come back. It's a no-brainer.

Rian Johnson saying, "that's Luke" says everything. His view of Luke is so weird, twisted, and specific. He acts like Luke never progressed beyond A New Hope. He totally ignores his character arc. Rian Johnson wanted to tell a very specific story and valued that over honering the characters. He broke them so that he could do whatever he wanted.

@unclearsector4266

3 жыл бұрын

did he though? i mean, saying that he didn't "honor the characters" is kind of just a reductionist way of saying that Luke's story continued

@Unknown-hb3id

3 жыл бұрын

Unclear Sector Continuing isn’t the problem. It’s the where and how of it that pisses people off.

@mr.hmusic9402

3 жыл бұрын

You don't "honor" anything by turning beloved characters into losers and failures, then kill them off.

@digheanurag

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe he only watched the New Hope?

@skywriter9532

3 жыл бұрын

@@digheanurag that would explain a lot actually 😂.

@9:27 "That's Luke" (Rian Johnson) I think this is one of the problems -- Johnson saw Luke as a fundamentally confused and inconsistent character. I couldn't disagree more. Luke has a classic Hero's Journey arc and is a strong, stable character not only at the end, but throughout. He never exhibits this bipolar stuff to which Johnson says "That's Luke." No, it isn't.

I could get with the idea of luke being a broken man. Maybe he's sick of the endless cycle of war. Showing the galaxy that their greatest hero has given up. The sequels should have explored the idea of luke being right about endless cycle of war with the first order and about how the galaxy should find its motivation with out him

@AstralTaurus

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I think they should've focused more on the flaws of the jedi idealogy. There are some great deleted scenes that got cut for some reason where Luke really explains why the jedi failed and without them it just made an already unorganized film much worse

@orandegellogaming4793

Жыл бұрын

I could see that happening to some people but the basis and baseline existence of luke it to keep hope

After episode 9 was out for a while, I decided that I was trying to trick myself into liking the sequels because it was the end of the Skywalker story and I wanted it to end off on a great note because of how much I truly love the original trilogy, the prequels, and especially the clone wars animated series but watching the Mandalorian and the clone wars season 7 shows me how much I truly hated the sequel story. I have a lot of problems with the sequels but a big one for me was that they just uncreatively hit the reset button and decided to retell the original trilogy story with characters I honestly didn’t care about instead of expanding the universe and telling a more interesting story. For example, I know the prequels aren’t perfect but episode 2 laid out the groundwork for the clone wars series to expand in so many different directions in such an amazing way that didn’t just focus on a single handful of characters but would keep expanding into new characters, new locations, new situations, and more. In short, the movie writers need to stop focusing on trying to just get raw reactions out of their audience and they need to take a huge page from the show writers on the direction they have been heading in.

The campaign mission with Luke Skywalker in Battlefront 2 was the best post-ROTJ Luke we saw

@eduardojadam

3 жыл бұрын

Luke: A choices. Imperial: the Rebellion? Luke: No. To be better.

@nocturne4852

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly that the Luke we all know one who saw good even in his enemies and showed them that there was always something better in life that YOU could be better no matter what you’ve done or who you were

@lukar7306

3 жыл бұрын

He had no motivation whatsoever to try to kill Ben and then go and hide on a rock for years

@fishthekidd8287

3 жыл бұрын

That or the one scene with him training leia in tros

@the_milkgod9134

3 жыл бұрын

If were talking cannon I dunno haven’t played of your including legends i can definitely say that’s incorrect

The Luke we meet in the original movies would never: -Exile himself and leave his sister to fight alone. -Try to kill his nephew because of a dark though. (Luke tried to talk to his father who was already in the dark side.) It's just not how Luke is, and the people who wrote the new movies didn't really understand what kind of character Luke is, same with the others.

Luke in the originals: I can feel the good in you Luke in the sequels: *Gru holding a gun*

I loved Sam Witwer's explanation about Luke. I thought he nailed it pretty well. I agree this wasn't Luke, at all.

Love your channel, loved your reaction to Mando S2 finale, and i love what you had to say about the the ST!!!!!

2017 was a bad year for me. I lost my mom late November and to get over my grief I turned to what I loved the most which was Star Wars and The Last Jedi kicked me at was the saddest part of my life. I can't bare to watch it again.

@DarthSideous63

3 жыл бұрын

@@willcorbett1387 Thanks.

RotJ Luke: my father killed countless innocent people but I know there is good in him and I will never give up TLJ Luke: No nephews no problems

@unclearsector4266

3 жыл бұрын

ya but Luke nearly killed Vader when he mentioned Leia. All Luke did with Kylo was ignite his lightsaber for a second after sensing the dark side

@genx1144

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@anormalguy9346

3 жыл бұрын

@@unclearsector4266 That's because Vader threatened to hurt his sister,but Luke only *sensed* evil within Ben. That's not what Luke Skywalker should do

@TheGhost-ox5bc

3 жыл бұрын

@@unclearsector4266 Different circumstances. Your forgetting Palpatine was also present there constantly trying to influence luke. Luke at the time was also young and impulsive. In the last jedi Luke is old and mature, should have had much better judgement.

@MrTheMan001

3 жыл бұрын

But Luke, didn't want to kill him. He said he regretted it instantly. Only for a second did he think of killing Ben for the sake of saving everyone and everything that he loved.

I agree with everything but I wouldn't be able to say it as nice.

@MalteAnderhagen

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly

@metroplex8086

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah man, i've spent so many hours and energy arguing about The Last Jedi.

@Lelouch79

3 жыл бұрын

I’m the same way

@ethanstarbuck3124

3 жыл бұрын

I loved the Force Awakens immensely and was so excited about seeing the Last Jedi. Walking out of the theater, I felt so betrayed. I could handle the cringe plot points that were only for agendas, I could handle the boring casino stuff with Finn and Rose, hell I could even handle the stupidity of Rey’s parents being built up to be nobodies. But what I couldn’t handle was the utter castration of Luke Skywalker as a character. Anakin is my favorite character, but Luke was my childhood hero and the way they portrayed him was inexcusable. From that point on, the entire sequel trilogy hasn’t been canon for me.

@coled8841

3 жыл бұрын

Same

14:50 just proves that Rian Johnson just wanted to watch the world burn.

14:45 Dude, seriously, after realizing Johnson’s thinking process, I was like “how the hell they put this guy in charge of Star Wars???” He disrupts the arc of a legendary character, for intentionally splitting the audience and in turn making a movie controversial. That is the part I could hardly understand his logic.

@om3gared66

2 жыл бұрын

It's so stupid that RJ even thinks that would be a good idea to divide your own audience. He could have done that with any film, but no he chose star wars and he splitted what imo is the biggest fandom

@Getloose360

2 жыл бұрын

@@om3gared66 it's called willful sabotage.

Lucas's saga ended with ROTJ. Can you imagine if Warner Bros got some random director to make a sequel to The Lord of the Rings? No-one would accept them as canon because it is not Tolkien's story anymore. People accepted the Force Awakens because it was enjoyable, and then felt like they had to accept the Last Jedi because it was part of the same story. But none of it is Lucas's story, so it is not part of the original 6 movie saga.

@gergelyludanyi2523

3 жыл бұрын

And that’s a fact!

@basketballgirl723

3 жыл бұрын

It sure did. The sequel trilogy is not and never will be True Lucas Star Wars canon. The mouse betrayed Lucas similar to how Palpatine betrayed the Jedi order.

@Niennunbfan345

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly mate

@tarikkovacevic6103

3 жыл бұрын

Lucas would make 7 8 9 before disney bought lucasfilm

@vlenhoff

3 жыл бұрын

Lukar, that doesn't mean Rian had to assassinate Luke's character. Luke meant hope to all of us, and he would never kill his own nephew in his sleep.

So based on that snippet, Johnson basically intentionally pissed off or upset half of the Star Wars audience?

@gabrielmartinelli7698

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr🤣 What an idiot

@aczeos

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not condoning what he did however, it must be some deep artist thing most normal people can’t understand 🤣

@andrewlundell7339

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. He did. What an ego.

@brianreitz2159

3 жыл бұрын

Yes he did.

@rjholman8034

3 жыл бұрын

Its just a excuse for his lack of skill to make a movie that everyone enjoys. Easier to say that is what he wanted to do, than admit he can't get it right.

Well done video, Luke was my first hero. I hated what happened to him in the sequels, but given recent events (Mandalorian season 2 finale) I'm happy to have gotten to see the return of the Jedi who meant so much to me and others.

Thanks a lot for sharing this! I totally understand your points. I'm probably not an as huge fan as you are but....still pretty big fan born in the 80s and grown up with the movies and lore. I neither love nor hate the sequels. I see a lot of issues in them but I can still enjoy them. I want to show you my perspective about Lukes behavior (and not dive into the other plotholes): I agree that it was not an expected behavior from Luke given how the character was framed in the original movies. But when the hell are people always behaving as expected? Or rational? Or predictive? Every character in every story should have the freedom to also make unexpected or off-character choices as this is life. You never know 100% what is going on in the head of the others. In general, I see that Luke started to repeat the mistakes or at least mirror the behavior of former Jedi masters as soon as he archived a similar position. About ending evil before it spreads: Mace Windou wanted to kill Palpatine. Obi Wan wanted to kill Anakin (or at least leave him for dead). You could argue that Mace always had this side and that Palpatine was truly evil. But Obi-Wan? With his 'brother'? About being a hermit: What about Yoda? Well, not 30 years but definitely longer than a few months. He punished himself for the mistakes he made that led to the downfall of the Jedi order. Not the same but quite similar to what Luke did. He mirrored his former master. He mimicked it. And he did not change his mind about burning the Jedi books. He never wanted to do that. He just thought that he should do it. And it was shouting for help. Yoda, please tell me that I should keep the books and the lessons in there are valuable! At some point of time he just realized that he does not know what to do and that he had nobody to ask for help. No Ben. No Yoda. He was alone and had to make decisions like the old masters would have made them. That was a glimpse of the character that we got in Episode IV. 'I just wished Ben was here'. And the end of Lukes story still provides hope. Hope that it is never too late to do the right thing. Neither was it for Anakin too late. Nor for Luke. Just my 5 cents here. I hope, you enjoy it.

Rian Johnson with that attitude,should never had neen allowed to touch Star Wars....

@Chris-qd8pm

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, Ron. I also see the problem as being much deeper- Kathleen Kennedy and Bob Iger spitting on the original manuscripts that George had given to them. KK just wanted to make star wars a political statement rather than a cohesive steady story. Rian is just a branch on the tree in regards to the corruption around the sequel trilogy.

@garmatey3816

3 жыл бұрын

He made it about him from the get. Disgusting

@youretotallyrightbut463

3 жыл бұрын

Rain literally said he never liked Star Wars. And it’s clear as day he didn’t have a clue about it with all his plot holes and mistakes, some of which he has admitted to and essentially said “oops”

@brycelandon6387

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chris-qd8pm If there's a political statement in the sequel trilogy, I don't see it. The original trilogy was a statement against the Vietnam War and the Nixon Administration. The prequel trilogy contained elements of Lucas' anti-Republican sentiments (Nute Gunray's name came from Newt Gingrich and Ronald Reagan; the Trade Federation represented Lucas' view of the 1994 Republican Revolution and the "Contract With America", and Anakin's statement, "If you're not with me, then you are my enemy" was his crackback on Bush 43's approach to those who didn't help the US in its War on Terrorism). But there's no political statement in the sequel trilogy. The only statement I see is, "We're going to make more Star Wars movies so we can milk the Star Wars cash cow for every dollar we can get!"

They ruined Luke in this movie... it was Completely ridiculous and absurd.

@Miker6348

3 жыл бұрын

it was johnson trying to do something unique rather than giving us the same old. if abrams directed this movie luke would be the same old like we’ve known for like 40 years. in my opinion that would be very boring and i’d rather have someone try it bring us something new. same way when the prequels were crucified when they first came out but they gave us the true scope of the star wars universe

@yadatada5556

3 жыл бұрын

@@Miker6348 I respect your opinion but here is mine. I think luke should still stay the same. I think they shouldve made him fail of course everyone fails but they shouldve made him redeem himself better than what they did. It was also stupid because he could bring vader back to the light who literally killed a bunch of jedi and rebels, yet when kylo has a bad dream, he is scared and wants to kill him. That's just stupid. Luke just simply isnt like that. Even when his arm was cut off, he still tried to bring vader back to the light, he never gave up. And because of some stupid vision, he gives up on kylo like what kind of crap is that? I think more people would like the movie if luke wasnt some hermit and was more than that. I think him being a hermit just ruins the legacy. They shouldve kept legends luke. Besides, I'm pretty sure people would love to see Luke's jedi order and his cool mission rather than him scared of a swolo supreme leader.

@Miker6348

3 жыл бұрын

@Ish Moore when i said the true scope of the star wars universe i was referring to the prequels not the sequels. the sequels were just a rehashing of many things we saw in the original trilogy. some people like this but i want new things. that’s what is ruining star wars is people defining what is and what isn’t a good star wars movie when that completely up for interpretation. in the same way i like the last jedi for trying different things and changing our favorite characters in different ways you dislike it because your opinion of a good star wars movie is the similar format to the originals. we both have different opinions and neither of ours are a definitive right or wrong. they will never be able to please all of us :(

@puggoman902

3 жыл бұрын

So you guys hating Luke for being Human?

@raafeyplayz7015

3 жыл бұрын

@@Miker6348 new? My man, he’s basically Obi Wan Kenobi/Ben Kenobi but except he doesn’t really have a good reason to hide.

Your opinions are 100% valid! Up front, thank you for stating that us as Star Wars fans must learn to discuss these matters without animosity. We (at the very least) have one thing in common - our love of Star Wars - and that one thing should not divide us. Now, for my opinions. I was shocked right through the Last Jedi. I enjoyed it, but I was shocked. I remember sitting in the cinema, being soooo hyped up for this film, and feeling that excitement sink when Luke outright refuses to help Leia and then proceeds to say the jedi must end. As you said, he spent just over half his life trying to rebuild what Palps and Vader broke down. I will be honest: I was never the biggest Luke Skywalker fan, BUT he rose above being an average farm boy on Tatooine. He summoned the courage to leave behind everything that was familiar, to help people who he didn't even know. His father was one of the most evil (presumably) figures in the galaxy, yet he refused to believe that Anakin was 100% lost. He refused to kill Vader (like Yoda and Obi-Wan implied he'd have to) JUST BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. That was the Luke Skywalker I knew: Luke I-have-to-do-the-right-thing Skywalker. For this reason, I have a very deep respect for Luke (and I find that as time goes on, I like him more and more). I recently read books like the Aftermath trilogy by Chuck Wendig, and Bloodline by Claudia Gray, and I feel like, if they incorporated some of the info in these novels into the books, it would feel less random and disjointed. So while I do not detest the sequels, I dislike the disjointedness. I dislike that some characters' arcs were neglected. I dislike that our understanding of how the Force works, built up through Episodes I-VI, Clone Wars and Rebels, was basically discarded. But, I absolutely get where you are coming from. Thank you for taking the time to make such a tactful, respectful video. May the Force be with you too.

I am now watching this a year later and Me and my brother the person that got me in to Star Wars at a young age to be specific the prequel‘s something that I love and cherished in my young memories it was truly amazing for me because of the extensive lore and knowledge of what the universe was. But the way I look at these movies or the story in a hole was different then the original trilogy it wasn’t the story any true Star Wars enthusiast would have predicted in the end . and now with ever thing coming out I do Believe the future of Star Wars is better but when I walked out of the Theater of the last movie i thought we’ll ever good story has a end a good or bad and it was a bad end for Luke a character I would say any one can look up to it was a shame that we got two writers with two different out looks at the characters behavior and actions. But hopefully with the new things out Luke can get redemption in the end.

"To explain our views on things without hatred" people these days get offended far too easily and it's ridiculous. People need to stop being so damn sensitive

@techno639

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly how I feel every time I say "I don't like the prequels"

@samot4100

3 жыл бұрын

@@techno639 WHAT HOW COULD YOU NOT LIKE THE PREQUELS THERE BETTER THE THOSE STUPID SEQUELS HOW COULD YOU NOT AHHHHHHHREEEEEEEDHGJJXJDU^'%$$9HDJ^$'YFG)^^'TDBH!!!

@victorroche5044

3 жыл бұрын

No, just to not be intolerant of disagreement

@terreliv

3 жыл бұрын

The only sensitivity we need is to the Force.

@techno639

3 жыл бұрын

@@samot4100 that's almost exactly what they always say 😂

Not seeing Luke’ use his master like abilities still hurts

@ekammadra306

3 жыл бұрын

Fr

@AgentXv2

3 жыл бұрын

Major hurt

@And-Or101

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t like TLJ, but the force projection is amazing from a skill point of view (even though I hated it at first.) Still, I would have liked to see more.

Ever since I started really digging in and researching comics did I realize that these stories truly are current-day mythology, much like the religions of past civilizations. It was awesome to hear someone else say the exact same thing, and rather eloquently, I might add. I'd also like to say I felt you did a great job presenting your thesis and explaining it in this video, in a very non-confrontational yet incisive manner. Thanks for sharing!

I recently discoverd your chanel and I have got to say that I really like your content. Keep up the amazing work!

Sadly, we may never see Luke's Jedi Order in films.

It wasn’t just Luke’s character Disney changed, but they changed Han’s character too.

@samuelboyce1885

3 жыл бұрын

In my opinion Han just went back to being a smuggler like in A New Hope then they just sadly killed him off when he could of been a lot more

@vaporwave4880

3 жыл бұрын

They didn't, and that was the problem. They just put him back to square one.

@samuelboyce1885

3 жыл бұрын

@@vaporwave4880 Exactly

@ABCDyeahyeahyeah

3 жыл бұрын

And Leia’s.

@noemi9708

3 жыл бұрын

@@ABCDyeahyeahyeah they didn't change Leia much, they just showed he power more. She was the only OG character who wasn't ruined, and thats just cause she was 'female'.

To me Star Wars has that strong feel of story, a sense where you can feel with the characters which happened with all episodes 1-3, 4-6. When disney took over and TRIED to live the whole feeling on, they failed in my opinion.. It doesn't have that same feel when you look at the storyline, it feels really different. It almsot feels like Fast & Furious with Lightsabers and blasters. Not much story, just fighting. no conflicts, just arguments. In my "Star Wars Universe" There is only 6 movies, and forever will only be 6. The newer movies are still well made, but they're still not in same catergory in my head.

I grew up with the original Star Wars Trilogy... I was only a toddler when A New Hope came out. Star Wars is my favorite movie franchise, and Luke is my favorite character of all time. To see him go from this amazing, hopeful, strong and brave person to what he became in the sequels made me sad. I know people change as they age - I'm not the same person I was in my teens or twenties by a long shot - but have Luke try to kill his own nephew after thinking Ben "might" turn to the dark side was so way out of character for him that it felt like someone else. Especially - as you put it so well - that Luke was the only one who believed there was still good in his father despite the evidence saying he was pure evil. I couldn't (and still can't) connect the Luke we saw for the majority of the film with the Luke from the original trilogy until he did the force projection thing. *THEN* it felt like we were seeing him finally, not someone else. It was so disappointing to me, I was almost in tears watching TLJ in the theater. My favorite character of all time was a shell of himself. Sure, the scene with Yoda setting the tree on fire was cute, and the best part of TLJ (in my humble opinion) but otherwise, TLJ was a huge disappointment overall to me. It's not a "bad" movie, but it doesn't feel like Star Wars in my opinion. Thank you so much for this video. You broke things down and explained your point perfectly, and in an extremely professional and classy manner. Well done.

Ashoka: "Master Kenobi, what do you think the Height of Stupidity is?" Obi-Wan: "Rian, how tall are you?"

@donaldohmen

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao best comment yet!

@davidmcaninch4714

3 жыл бұрын

His name is Ruin Johnson, thank you very much.

@thepatplays8351

3 жыл бұрын

The trolling master trolls again

@genx1144

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

Theory: “maybe you’ll be able to at least see my point of view...” Me: From my point of view the Jedi are evil

@sammcdermott78

3 жыл бұрын

WELL THEN YOU ARE LOST

@austinsnyder8743

3 жыл бұрын

Rey is evil

@MCsCreations

3 жыл бұрын

I'm going to throw sand at you. 😒

@levi9kirk

3 жыл бұрын

@@austinsnyder8743 ray is a Skywalker

@noahdrottzhagglund1467

3 жыл бұрын

This is the end for you my master!

Hey Theory! I have a suggestion, you should link the videos you put in yours. Im just curious but have trouble finding them. Awesome video btw!

I grew up with star wars, I was about ten when they re-released the OT in theaters before the launch of the prequels. I never gravitated towards any one character but the universe and story itself. The OT was magical, a space opera about a boy farmer whisked away on a galactic sized quest. Even the prequels retained and even expanded on much of those magical feelings. Lucas was able to create entire mythos and fantastic lore by giving you enough information and allowing the audience to infer and theory-craft. Despite Lucas running much of everything in a top down way, he inspired the actors by creating such a hopeful and inspiring setting it really shows when you watch his movies. When I watch the sequels I don't get the same sense of wonder and magic. Trying to rekindle a flame that was never out is what the sequels feel like. In order to do so you must snuff out the original flame. All of what was old is revised in a way to favor the new. This is not always bad, but you must build a solid foundation for what is new or it will feel like you are using the prestige and success of what came before to artificially raise yourself up. And that is what I feel is Disney's Star Wars problem. They take the fans for granted. That they need not do their homework, just slap to brand name on it and push it out the door. I was hopeful when I heard Disney was taking over Star Wars, now I'm just sad to see the state of my childhood franchise. Not everything they produce it bad, they just have a lot of people in charge of things they have no business running. Creative Disney people, not Star Wars fans... Help is Dave Filoni you're out only hope...

I just want to appreciate how wholesome SWTheory is, he isn't toxic, he doesn't hate on people because they have an opinion, everyone has an opinion! Personally I enjoyed last jedi but I understand if somebody didn't. Love you SWTheory ❤️ Side note: I think they should make a Disney plus show about Luke Skywalker from episode 6-7 so we can see actual character development instead of his personality jumping from one film to the other.

@chrislorin9837

3 жыл бұрын

I think they did that in comics. Besides, considering that Disney is probably trying to find a way to make all of their fans happy (exhibit a: Reylo kiss. Exhibit b: rise of skywalker has a lot of fanservice,), they will either do a D+ show like you said to share it with the common public, or get ready. Retcons. Me: get ready, there’s a storm coming. Luke skywalker retcons: I am the storm

The Last Jedi made me feel like Luke turned to the dark side. This guy went from being the most hopeful person in the galaxy to legitimately trying to assassinate his nephew. Gave me flashbacks of Anakin killing younglings. Rian Johnson turned Luke, the guy who saved Vader from the darkness into a little version of Vader himself. Sad to see

@dylantrost4471

3 жыл бұрын

He didn’t try to assassinate his nephew. What the hell are you morons watching ?

@dylantrost4471

3 жыл бұрын

Ashton-Joseph Alexander he had an equivalent moment of a guy that has been through trauma his entire life, and then seeing it starting all over again, picking up a knife for a half a second in anger and irrationality. He was never seriously going to kill Ben.

@colemorgan4915

3 жыл бұрын

Dylan Trost are you stupid? He swung his lightsaber at him, Ben blocked it then brought the house down on him, what movie are you watching?

@dylantrost4471

3 жыл бұрын

Cole Morgan maybe rewatch the movie? That was Kylo’s interpretation. The real story, seen in the last flashback, was.... Kylo ignited his saber and swung towards Luke, who blocked it.

@Conrad45

3 жыл бұрын

@@dylantrost4471 Bruh. That's not kylos interpretation, it's what happened

Thank you for promoting convocation and saying the can talk not fight, I enjoy hearing lots of opinions and perspectives on those

Since when did fandom quite being about loving debating about characters. Friendly argument. I loved this version of Luke; but I think I love debating it with my friends even more. Thanks for you great work in bringing that energy back! Fandom should be fun!!

It's like Superman getting attacked by doomsday and then being afraid to ever be Superman again.

@judaspete

3 жыл бұрын

Wasn't that basically the plot of Superman Doomsday?

@Aames32

3 жыл бұрын

@@judaspete no.

@dakotatrue12

3 жыл бұрын

@@judaspete lmao no

@Emruldz64

2 жыл бұрын

@@judaspete Lool no it was not

“I want to make half of Star Wars fans hate Star Wars”-rian johnson “That’s just what we were thinking your hired!”-Disney Well guys all I can say is mission accomplished!

@thatblondboy007

3 жыл бұрын

The thing is he made a movie like 80% of people hate, so he kinda failed when it comes to percentages.

@rares-andreidinu2279

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatblondboy007 where did you get that amazing number from? :)))))

This was very well put. I’m sorry if I have ever been negative. I know now from my reaction to Luke’s scene in The Mandalorian that I was a hurt child trying to protect my feelings of love regardless of if they were bad or not....It wasn’t until episode nine that I truly realize that Disney had given true fans the middle finger. I do still enjoy them but I have to admit, I did need Luke to have the heroes journey. The shade thrown on the character they built of Luke in a broken state made me feel like I had to defend my own brokenness....not really coming to grips that it was the storytelling that was under fire. Thanks for the time you put behind this. Truly appreciated.

Comprehensive & multi-faceted breakdown. Well done. RJ should have listened to Mark Hammil. The ineptitude of KK, RJ & JarJar Abrahms....they couldn’t have screwed up the storyline more if they tried to.

When the ACTOR HIMSELF dislikes how the character was written, you KNOW that they butchered Luke BADLY.

@turkeydinnerchewie2499

3 жыл бұрын

Liam Neeson almost quit acting after TPM. Actors disagree with directors all the time.

@randomcontentguy2521

3 жыл бұрын

turkeydinnerchewie pretty sure mark knows and understands Luke more than rian does

@MrEffectfilms

3 жыл бұрын

@@randomcontentguy2521 Mark doesn't own Luke, if anyone owns luke its George. Playing the character doesn't give you the the right to say whats right or wrong about it. He openly admitted he was wrong about that too, of course butthurt fans were like "Disney just made him say that" but then he shot that down too, Mark has NEVER been someone who'd just say whatever to please people he's always been very honest about how he feels about something, whether thats at the beginning when he hadn't seen the film or after and he admitted he was wrong about it. But he certainly doesn't own the character.

@brandonsmith3365

3 жыл бұрын

MrEffectfilms Well, George Lucas didn’t like the way Luke was handled either soooooo. 🤷‍♂️

@alwy781

3 жыл бұрын

@@turkeydinnerchewie2499 Well, then he returned to voice Qui Gon in the clone wars TV series. And he wants MORE

If I were Mark Hamill, I would have turned down the part.

@7oy

3 жыл бұрын

Not with the amount of money they had to offer. He got paid 1 million just for his 3-second scene in the Force Awakens.

@jonlocke7112

3 жыл бұрын

He sadly signed a contract before the films started.

@starwalker371

3 жыл бұрын

He signed when george lucas was doing the sequels. But when disney bought lucasfilm he was contractually obligated to work on those films.

@Obi-Wan_Kenobi

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, he signed on for all three _before_ they even made the scripts/before Disney even bought Star Wars. There are interviews were Mark talks about how he was invited to lunch with Lucas and Carry Fisher and Lucas told them that he was planning to sell Star Wars to Disney and that the plan was to make squeal movies. He then said it was up to them if they wanted to reprise their roles. Carry said yes for both of them and while that's obviously not signing an official contract, it pretty much solidifies that their minds were made up to do the films before the scripts were even made.

@Missingno_Miner

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly, contracts tend to force one's hand. Odds are the same contract that forced him to play a part he disapproved of is responsible for that suspiciously sudden shift in opinion upon seeing the movie whose creation he was a huge part of edited together.

Lmao at 9:30 where Mark Hamill calls out how inconsistent Luke was in a single scene / movie and Rian made that weak ' That's Luke!' thing, I effing laughed , no lie. It was obvious Rian was pretty damn uncomfortable there 😂😂

SW Theory.... I 100% agree with you and frankly can't argue with anything you said especially what you said at the end about needing that character to give you hope. I was 11 years old when the original trilogy came out, and needed that escaped because I grew up in an extremely abusive home with a violently abusive alcoholic father. The hope that I got from those movies as a child and then as a teenager is what got me through, I was able to escape into that. No exact but I was able to find a way to do good in my life as a way to offset everything that has happened to me. I became a paramedic for 20 some years because I was trying to right the wrongs of my childhood. And whether I knew it at the time Luke was that Idol I was looking to please. And like you to have him ripped away and basically have his Legacy spit on with soul-crushing to me I've never re-watched episode 8 and I never will. I've watched seven and nine both, and I can find good in those movies but everything they did 1/8 just gut-wrenching to try to watch ever again

Bringing Anakin’s lightsaber into the sequels was really pointless (in my opinion)

@elisabethb.7088

3 жыл бұрын

You mean "Reys's lasersword"

@ediecote1466

3 жыл бұрын

they never even explain how Maz got it! At least not explicitly in the movies

@kevinskywalker5539

3 жыл бұрын

Anakin's lightsaber!

@jamesmurray3162

3 жыл бұрын

It was pointless. It shouldn't have been in the sequel trilogy. Instead, luke should have showed up on starkiller base, fight off Kylo, and told Rey that she needs training. Then the next movie takes place a yr or two later and she is making her own lightsaber. It could have been the one from the rise of Skywalker, and to top it off, the explanation for like vanishing is because he was in search for his daughter who went missing after his wife Mara Jade was killed by snoke. Rey turns out to be that lost daughter explaining her power, and that leads to the final battle of Luke vs snoke and Rey vs kylo

Why would Disney hire a guy who literally wants half of the fans to hate the movie he makes so stupid.

@BahamutZero09

3 жыл бұрын

Because he had the "right" opinion

@alecdl98

3 жыл бұрын

Because they have a narrative to push

@jimmy5516

3 жыл бұрын

Disney only cares about money and how much publicity they can get.

@seb6226

3 жыл бұрын

Reminds of the lofus2 director. The first game was so good but then boom! The Director pulls a Rian Johnson/SW Sequel Trilogy Disaster. Disappointing.

@jclark2k3

3 жыл бұрын

Total dick move

How memorable it could’ve been if you get a third party telling of the rise of the new republic, perhaps using a character from the first film mozz for the joy filled beginning and hint of Kylos fall while you get more context from Luke later: leia and Han marrying, having Ben, Luke meets Mara, gets married. And then the story tellers voice cracks, they start to tremble as they tell of Han and leías separation, discovery, and conflict with the first order and imperial remnants, later Luke tells us the immense anger in young Ben at the trauma of his parents falling out of love, a story so relatable to many people who would watch this film. The believed to be dead-disappearance of Mara. Then For the first time in his life, with his old enemy allowed to rebuild in peace, feeling the anger in his nephew every day, and the loss of his love, Luke for the very first time in his life feels the pull of the dark side and it terrifies him. To the point he tries to right his wrongs and undo his mistakes mainly himself, and kylo. Going to strike down ben out of fear kylos transformation is complete, and he with the knights destroy the temple, that’s when Luke would fail, Over the course of decades, many losses, and critical mistakes that take his own humble nature and optimism and turn them against him. He blames himself so much for everything he takes responsibility for everything, inaction due to optimism leads to drastic action in the end when the realization is made. that’s why he would’ve lost all hope and abandoned everyone he loves if that’s really what they wanted to tell. out of FEAR of the damage he caused or may cause, because of his mishandling of kylo, and the failure he feels at making the same mistakes his father and obi wan did. The once hopeful and brave hero, hitting rock bottom. In The last Jedi, he actually shows with his X-Wing and we get a cool nostalgia scene with Luke glancing at his X-Wing in the water as the music swells and the scene cuts. he actually gives leia hans real dice, he sees chewy and R2 and C3Po before heading out. We see his X-Wing parked next to the falcon as they go out the back exit with Rey, instead of foxes. He stands alone against the walkers and holds his own with the most spectacular Jedi display ever seen, I’m talking lets keep the walkers shooting at him scene but then have a second volley of shots, however the camera in this volley is angled up to the walkers from ground level behind Luke, showing Luke dodging ducking dipping diving and dodging every round showing how he manipulates his body with the force, how insane his connection is to perceive such powerful blasts to dodge them, idc how much CGI is necessary you pump millions into showing this character OFF. The smoke clears this time and he uses the force to crush the walker in front of him to the ground. Meanwhile Rey leads his sister and the resistance remnants onto the Falcon, Leia holding the dice is worried.. we cut back, the crumpled walker was the one kylo was in, as he walks across the field we see the now smoking wreckage in the distance behind him with a trail of footsteps in the haze. We go to luke, sighing with the fortress behind him. They have their taunt session like in the movie, luke is actually using Anakins lightsaber in this scene, giving HIS green saber (which never appears for some reason) to Rey on the island. He battles kylo, Luke is an expert at defending, even using incredible force powers such as manipulating salt towards kylos face like walls of dust, doing his limbo move in the film, and even force sprinting so fast around kylo it’s like he’s teleporting putting kylo off balance all the while trying to talk to kylo, rarely striking, still just defending against kylos strikes. Finally out of frustration kylo goes to force push Luke, Luke pushes back to defend, and at first Luke’s power pushes kylo back in the salt a bit with a closeup of his boots dragging away revealing the red dirt beneath as kylo, sweat beading down, yells and pushes forth with all his anger causing the energy between them to burst but with MORE force than when Vader and obi wan did it, causing both to go flying backwards in a huge puff of salt and dirt. As the falcon begins to lift up leia says to wait as she turns back feeling the huge burst of force energy… Luke pulls himself up through the dust and in that moment he feels leia reach out trying to connect through the force and tell him to get out of there, he remembers the love he feels for his family the beautiful moments they shared when things were better, his friends, the people he’s lost, and he knows there’s no running, or hiding for him anymore, just like obi wan realizes in a new hope, he denies the connection for leias safety, feeling the relief of Rey and co as they lift off wash over him as he focuses within himself, deepening his connection further into the force, preparing himself. he rises to his feet looking into the sunset at the silhouette before him… soon there is a flash and a buzzing, as he’s stabbed through, as Han was stabbed, just like Vader striking down obi wan, his saber is unlit… he knows the choice he’s made, both of them tearing up as Luke reaches out mirroring Han and His own father and says “Im sorry Ben”, before fading away and his robes falling to the salt, singed in half on the way down, kylo left holding his saber out, sweating, hair draped in front of his eyes that are now completely red and bloodshot, straining to hold in the tears that are pooling and dripping, disappearing InThe salt just as fast… I not only hopefully fan fictioned my way to recognition and a better more respectable final battle and death for my favorite Jedi and film character of all time, but also set up proper foreshadowing for Leías death, provided proper storytelling techniques that invoke a lot of the messages and and feelings we look for. Though i still have Luke fall obviously this is aiming for a more symbolic motif for letting go of the past, and looking to the future, not blaming yourself or anyone else for past shortcomings and happenings and instead accepting it and moving on and focusing on the choices now. All things these writers clearly wanted to go for but for some reason can’t pull off. I did it in a fraction of the time as Hollywood, set up a spin-off film or series following Mara jade and potential child of the two, and did it all for free. Someone like me could’ve saved all three movies by changing one scene in each and this is proof. Anyways I hope you see this comment man, consider it a job application wink wink. You’re the Master Fan in my book, great takes, really encompass and represent the thoughts feelings and expectations that most fans hold especially myself. It’s a shame to see what happened to the sequel trilogy, and it fractured the fan base. More people like you behind the scenes would’ve literally led to far more profits for Disney in the long run. As a consumer I still can’t wrap my head around the fact all these degree holding profiteers can’t get it through their heads that preaching and cutting córneres doesn’t work. They just make a film that checks boxes, take the money, run make the next movie and then grandstand like “why didn’t we make money on this movie? You “fans” must be Racists and bigots” it’s annoying, I’m glad I can still get all the Star Wars content that matters from you, here’s to many years subscribed and many more

This video coming out just a few months prior to Luke's reveal in The Mandalorian makes it an important time capsule to how things were with shitty Kathleen Kennedys Luke and the new and Improved Jon and Dave version of Luke in Mando. I hope to see more of post ROTJ Luke as long as the character is in the right hands.

@akafhyr9551

3 жыл бұрын

More luke is definitely a good thing. But the role might need a recast. Unless they can improve an extreme amount on the de-aging tech

Luke Skywalker is and will always be my hero. For me, the “true” Star Wars story ends with the Ewok celebration in Return of the Jedi - which is the perfect title for Star Wars and our hero - Luke Skywalker.

@thy_darkest_doctor1924

3 жыл бұрын

Same bro

@mr.hmusic9402

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, the Disney Trilogy is to Star Wars, what the Mirror Universe is to Star Trek....a twisted nightmare of the real world. The real Luke Skywalker has no beard. Jake Skywalker has a beard, just like Mirror Universe Spock!

@ravenchu0193

3 жыл бұрын

Is it because most Jedi not named skywalker in the films tend to get murdered off screen? Who would want to be one after multiple genocides? Can’t have shit in republics.

My daughter recently watched the entire saga starting in Episode 1. By Episode 3 she was depressed to see Anakin fall. By episode 6 she was elated to see his redemption and the hero Luke. By episode 8 she was sad and wanted to boycott Disney. It is interesting to see how some one who wasn't alive when prequels and original came out, watch them enjoy them, only to feel betrayed by the sequels.

@SnoobTube

3 жыл бұрын

@Conor Winston At least they did a pretty good job with Marvel

@luckymango1963

3 жыл бұрын

i like Marvel, but 8 years for their first female lead movie? Especially black widow? The only movie where there was an all black set was the first black lead movie. Theres not much diversity

@anakinskinwalker1724

3 жыл бұрын

Your daughter is very smart. Reward her for realizing Disney is a bunch of money cows

A bit late to the party here. Loved this video. I absolutely hated TLJ when I walked out of the theater the first, second and third time. But now, it’s my favorite, second only to Empire. For a couple reasons. To me one of the primary themes throughout the saga is “balance”. The issue at the end of return of the Jedi is that Luke would go on to build a Jedi order that was of all the same beliefs as the previous one, inevitably that would lead to the dark side rising again and striking where the light was weak, which is what happened. To deny the darkness in all of us will never bring balance. (And I do understand legends were different in this regard as to what Luke did after ROTJ). With this in mind there is no other way that the character of Luke would’ve gone. His final lesson to learn was that failure is okay, it leads to growth. It would’ve been out of character to kill Ben in his sleep, which is why he didn’t, it was as he said “a fleeting moment”. To me, seeing that even our heroes have moments of weakness, only to again overcome them and save everyone is inspiring. Sometimes we feel like we can’t be the legend we need to be. But even amidst that, we can still against all odds, decide to be. To me, the sequels are about learning from all the mistakes of the past, family is more than blood, and bringing true balance. ROS definitely didn’t do the best job concluding this, but I think it still stuck with the theme of “anyone can make the right choice, at any time, no matter who you are, where you’ve come from, or where you feel you failed”. Are there things I would change about the sequels? Yes. Can I? No, so I choose to enjoy them and see the wonderful character choices made for what they are :). Would love to talk more about it. and I’m glad to have heard your opinion, theory 👍🏻.

Yes, thank you for this! You’re a legend and a scholar!