I recently saw another video where a young man tries a bitless bridle on his dressage horse and within minutes the horse was riding happier and smoother. There's so much proof that horses don't need bits. I hope more people continue to wake up.

@judywright4241

5 жыл бұрын

Carolyn Leshock--Can’t help wondering if it’s the same rider than I occasionally watch, he is Austrian (?). If it is, wasn’t the shocked look on the horse’s face amazing?! Then he moved so much more happily, was a delight to watch.

@leafygreen9036

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, but he has been training the horse with a bit. The horse didn’t all of a sudden start doing well and learning cues the second he didn’t have a bit. A lot of you guys don’t realize that a lot of videos of horses being ridden bitless are of horses that have been trained with bits (which I’m inclined to believe is the case in this video). If you can show me a video of a horse that’s been ridden bitless it’s whole life performing similarly to those who have been bitted then I’d actually be impressed

@aerochicc

5 жыл бұрын

Yes! That's the fellow! Wish I would have bookmarked it. Happy horse indeed!

@aerochicc

5 жыл бұрын

Leafy - I understand the point that you're making. I honestly don't know what it takes to train a horse to be ridden (bit or no), but I hope some video evidence surfaces for you.

@michelleturner6865

3 жыл бұрын

@@leafygreen9036 there’s a guy in Russia and I can’t remember his name. But he trains in classical dressage and doesn’t use anything but a neck rope. From day one. He teaches the horse to use themselves properly from the ground first. It then transfers to riding. Yes it can be done. There are others who do it. If horse shows would stop forcing people to use bits you would see many horses in competition without them. More and more riders are realizing that horses don’t need bits. Training makes horses safe not bits.

As a child I never had a bit, saddle, whip,or spurs needed on my horses and I rode on open non fenced 100 acre farm. Horses sense fear, and they know inexperience as well. I agree with your statement that people don't want to put the work into horses. It amazes me! Thanks for sharing this and doing what you do!

The last horse expo I went to it was all about liberty riding, using seat and legs without relying on bits.

Awesome that you made A video about this! She rides him also outside like this sometimes, there is a BIG nature reserve there. (you talked about the fenced erea and how she would only ride him there). I visit that place a few times a year and know them and seen them ride, and it is so nice to see! Also this horse is kept outside 24/7 with shelter so there you have your answer. Also this horse does not have his wiskers clipped.

@crazyponygirl

5 жыл бұрын

Well that's really good that she rides out with him on a nature reserve! :) That made their bond even stronger and made them trust each other more!

@judywright4241

5 жыл бұрын

EquiallyNL --Thanks for taking the time to update the information on this horse & rider, it’s always helpful.

Whips in dressage are only used for training, they are not permitted in competition. They are used to help que the horse using pressure or brushing action around the flank and hindquarters, basically its an extension of the hand or leg, they are never used to hit the horse the way they are with jumping or racing. Edited: having the whip is also probably especially useful when it comes to her situation since she has no physical connection to the horses head, the whip is used to help guide from the rear so to speak. So she has loop for front, legs for middle, whip for quarters.

@lisazappolo9989

5 жыл бұрын

When was that rule changed? They have always been limited to a certain length.

@Masatisan

5 жыл бұрын

@@lisazappolo9989 they are allowed in other forms of competition/sport and have rules about the types permitted but they are not permitted at all in competitive dressage.

@lisazappolo9989

5 жыл бұрын

@@Masatisan According to USEF dressage rules (DR120.7), a whip no longer than 47.2 inches may be carried. These rules govern USDF, and are in compliance with FEI. Stop spreading misinformation.

@Masatisan

5 жыл бұрын

@@lisazappolo9989 I guess I misremembered, they are allowed in most dressage but not high levels such as national or international, I think thats where I got confused.

I believe the bit is a false sense of security for most humans, some horses feel that and say okay my human feels secure I will do what they ask. When this type of rider tries to go bitless THEY believe they don’t have control, horse feels their insecurity and doesn’t listen. Clearly these people have never been on a runaway with a bitted bridle. Ive transitioned all my adopted horses to bitless, and I started my mustang bitless he will never know what a bit feels like. 👍🏼

This is one of my dear friends! She rides her horse like this in other arena’s to and outside... if you found this video, you found her name - Greetje Hakvoort, and you would have put in the research to get to know her, and her horse Bongo. The whip is an extension for her hand, she can’t reach the hindquarter with only a hand to ask Bongo to either sit or respond to a touch. In combinatjon with her aids she also speaks a lot to him. Google her name and you will find a lot of these statements to be unvalid. Thank you for promoting bitless tho. I agree!

@HeartofEquus

3 жыл бұрын

I LOVE to see her riding bitless!!! But PLEASE don't ask me to be stupid when you say, "It's only an extension of my arm." Rick???

I hope that one day all those bit lovers get a dentist with parkinson disease...

This horse was most likely trained these moves in a bit before the rider was able to transfer the cues to a neckrope and whip. Also, the whip is not there to hurt the horse; it is used as an extension of the arm in order to give clear cues. You also mention that the horse would not be able to be ridden as such out in the open (without a bridle), and, depending on the horses training, they may or may not be able to. It depends on how much she goes out on trail rides and how much she trains the horse to not spook and instead trust the rider. And still, before the neckrope would have to come a headstall, whether that be a bitless bridle or a bridle with a bit.

@Iceblinkwolfsong

5 жыл бұрын

Leah Connemara I literally said that. “Whether that be a bitless bridle or a bridle with a bit”. Please learn to read the whole comment before responding.

I know this woman, she is great with her horses. And they are absolutely happy. And this video is incredible. I’m not hating or something, but you said that she would never go to another location like this, and on hacks and stuff, well i personally think that going on a hack without anything to control your horse is pretty dangerous. Just a bridle (bitless) is enough, but not with just a rope around it’s neck. That’s bringing you and your surroundings in danger. This horse has come a long way with this owner, and i know that she knows that what she is doing is right.

@raraavis7782

5 жыл бұрын

loeke caviet Do you happen to know, if she has actually trained the horse entirely without a bit ? Or did the horse learn dressage with a bit and now does it without? Just curious.

@Minis.with.purpose

5 жыл бұрын

@@raraavis7782 She taught him with bit. But the horses I see her start now is mostly without. She works a lot in hand with the horses and from there they know all their cues. But yes she also uses a bit.

@raraavis7782

5 жыл бұрын

EquiallyNL Cool thanks. I had been wondering about this...but it makes sense, of course. If the horse already knows certain cues, you can then go from there when you actually ride it. I’m currently not a ‚horsewoman‘, but (believe it or not), I used to go riding for years as a teen, without ever wondering, how horses actually learn this stuff #clueless.

At least she removed the disgusting metal/pain from this horse!!

She is a renowned Dutch horse trainer that owns an academy for working in harmony with horses. She teaches ground work and riding from the base of classical dressage (Spanish school) in harmony with the horse, mostly based on non verbal communication and feeling. As I understand she doesn’t believe in “punishing” a horse, just rewarding asked behaviour. And working with patience. She’s most probably not using a whip to hit her horse, just to use it to give it direction as an extension of her leg. Honestly I think she’s one of the most horse friendly people here in the Netherlands. I don’t know her personally, just from videos and stories.

Upper level dressage requires a double bridle meaning they use two bits a curved bit and a snaffle. So they see it as you are such a great rider now we add more pain devices it turns my stomach

So beautiful to see a horse doing dressage so elegantly without a bit

People use bits whips spurs etc because one it’s tradition and done thing to do. The industry makes it more drummed into people to use as this would be classed as not safe and never allowed in a competition. Christ most yards would be screaming this is so dangerous. Yet the refuse to see the number of accidents caused by a horses reaction to pain of the bit and/ or trying to avoid it. Ie rearing bucking. To which people cry about - my horse is bad and naughty 🙄. Another reason I’d because it takes less time to train . Just using pain compliance. Pisses me off.

I commend this rider for doing great without a bridle! Beautiful.

Great to see some bitless dressage!

1st - If you are not FIRST , you are last.

@johnm840

5 жыл бұрын

WIN WIN WIN, I got the win in Honor "the Trumpster" . GET Out and vote People Republicans on Nov 6 Democrats on Nov 7

@inspiredclips8245

5 жыл бұрын

John Is Back! Watch Out! High Five! Have a spectacular day! Laural

@inspiredclips8245

5 жыл бұрын

Yup, gonna vote. We have an independent running as well. Laural

@johnm840

5 жыл бұрын

@@susanbower1660 Ty, Besides You and Kate and Lisa , I got wins when you girls got tired of winning. Get Out and Vote RED. if you are a Liberal, stay home.

@lisazappolo9989

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnm840 At 3:47 I rolled over to check the time and saw a notification on the phone. As I fell back to sleep, my thought was John or Rike got it. And no, I did not dream of you after lol Going to vote before getting horse feed. Hold the line

What a beautiful looking horse. I think its stupid for people to think that riding a horse with a bit during dressage is stupid. If you put the time and effort to train a horse to respond like what this woman has done, it can look and be amazing. That horse looks calm and responsive.

@waddigator

5 жыл бұрын

I recognize your pic, idk where I saw it but hey it's good to see someone else watching these vids.

Of course everything that can be done with a bit is also possible without! You know... I'm so sick of people coming up with more and more excuses to not ride bitless. We've all seen "well, my horse loves his bit!". Well on the comment section of one of Raleigh's video, somebody said "my horse doesn't like riding bitless" and many people were agreeing strongly with him/her! I just can't... How can a horse like having a piece of metal in his mouth? How can people in the 21st century believe that something hard on soft tissue can be better than something softer (a halter for instance) on bone? Wake up sheeple!!

@leafygreen9036

5 жыл бұрын

Manillha it’s not necessarily that the horse likes having a bit in its mouth (though I will say I could see a mouthy horse liking one, maybe not a metal one, but something to play with) it’s more the horse responds to the bit better than bitless. Some bitless options are actually a bit harsh and if a horse isn’t trained for bitless or have a sensitive nose then no they are not going to like bitless (or at least initially)

This is what I have been waiting to see. Dressage without a bit. It can be done. Love it!

Rick, you've got to admit that at least she isn't using a damn bit!... And I don't see spurs... That's an improvement!... And beautiful horse!...

@biancawheeler270

5 жыл бұрын

E Gagnon I don’t see anything wrong with bits 🤷‍♀️ I use one on one of my horses, he never shows signs of pain. It’s honestly how you use them

@jenz4524

5 жыл бұрын

Bianca, I use an eggbutt snaffle on mine for hunters, but the rest of the time, he is in his sidepull. i did have to put a curb chain on it as a reminder to him since he is a horse who is very aware of his surroundings.

I hope you show more videos of the way things CAN be done! Sometimes a positive message will be better received than a critical one. "Catch more flies with honey" mentality. There are many pain free riders out there who can teach the ignorant! I loved this post! Thanks Rick, Mr T and Buddy for being teachers too.

I love your channel!!!!! And your horses.

@ireneroberts5879

5 жыл бұрын

Love horses

@inspiredclips8245

5 жыл бұрын

Clara Mightyfall Nice 2nd! You're Quick! Have a great day! Laural

Glad you showed this, now if people would just realise they can do it too. Just looks so much better for this horse and he looked really happy without the bit. Much more relaxed.

I have ridden with a neck loop before and I think it is only reasonable to ride in fenced in areas with it and then of course with a bitless bridle outside :) very nice video. I am always impressed of horses doing dressage just with a neck loop

Of course you can.. but here is the thing... I bet this horse was also trained in a bit and then taken off of it for this video... Guaranteed this horse has been trained in a bit prior though.

@gerrycoleman7290

5 жыл бұрын

Probably, but not necessarily the case with other horse examples.

Yes yea! I know this woman. Her name is Greetje and her horse his name is Bongo and they live in the Netherlands. I rode in this same arena a few weeks back! :) She is the owner of a horse academy

Interesting. Having watched quite a few of your videos now, I was going to ask, if dressage is possible without a bit (purely academic interest, I haven’t sat on a horse in years) so I‘m glad this video answered that question. I‘m very impressed. Sitting on this huge beast, not being able to ‚make‘ it do something but having to rely on the horses trust and willingness to go along...takes courage. And skill, of course. Must be an awesome feeling to develop such a tight bond with your horse.

@gerrycoleman7290

5 жыл бұрын

Knowledge is power. Where there is knowledge, fear melts away. You will know what the horse is going to do. The horse will know what you are going to do.................one mind.

Also check out her KZread "Greetje Hakvoort" - She does the same thing in several different arenas/outdoor arenas with and without letters and even on the lunge line in a freaking lake (bitless), her horse does the same thing

The only things you need with a horse are an open mind, patience and respect; let the horse teach you and then you’ll be able to teach them :)

I keep going back to this and Rick has said it a few times in different ways; watch children with their horses that aren't in a barn witches territory. The children make what is perceived as "mistakes" with their horses, the climb on the horse from either side, they ride without saddles, reins, they jump on, purposely fall off, climb under, walk behind, etc etc with their horse and the horse becomes a better horse while the child becomes a better guardian and rider. A horse is not a tool, to me they are just as if not valuable as a dog. They helped us build and protect this country. People don't want to spend the damn time to train their dog; stick em in a crate for hours on end, that's training? Think these type of "people" are going to go outside, gather the necessities to work with a horse? NOPE! A pet is just as time consuming as a human child and just as expensive! Might as well treat the animals with some damn respect! Starting with NO PAIN!

Autopilot isn’t a bad action. If anything it says that the horse has been trained by the same person repeatedly. They work well together and that is success.

@Managable_Mayhem

5 жыл бұрын

It depends. Autopilot does not proof that the horse would always 100%ly follow the cues, which is bad if you would advertize this horse for sale with this kinda video and the new owner ends up having to struggle to get the same reaction from the horse. And it doesn't mean the horse has been trained by the same person. It's more likely that it always just runs one or two routine routes and learned them by now, hence 'autopilot' that may or may not need little to no cues. If this rider would go outside her home dressage area, the reactions of the horse would likely be less easy and perfect. Of course there is a possibility that the results will be the same, but the chance for that is low if the horse truly runs on autopilot in this video. Which is likely why many riders do not bother with bitless riding (sadly enough), since it requires more training for horse *and* rider.

How nice to see the young lady ride her horse so well, without a Bit, doing a Passage and Piaffe too! Great video. Thank you!

At last it's nice to see a horse being ridden on without any bits hurting the horses mouth. Just wish they would leave the mane and tail alone because I thought a horse looks better being natural like Mr T and Buddy boy. Do you have pateron because I would like to join I have donated now and again but I would like to help out more regular. I no that you probably don't need money and I hope that you don't take offence from me asking this question.😊

@judywright4241

5 жыл бұрын

pecan baby 3107 --On his home page at the bottom, he does have a ‘Donation’ thru PenPal.

She has a Dalmatian! lol My dream dog that I will soon have to match my Appaloosa!

Cool video! Would love if shows would allow bitless riding, and if more instructors would teach it.

I like seeing stuff like this. When people say "you can't do collection or do these fancy moves without a bit" then I show them videos like this. I agree though about not liking a whip or braided tails and cut whiskers and all that crazy horse people stuff but its cool to see no bit.

@inspiredclips8245

5 жыл бұрын

Good Morning! Enjoy your day and those horses! Oh I'm getting excited to visit some former wild mustangs this week in my state through a friend of a friend! Laural

@MattyDemello

5 жыл бұрын

@@susanbower1660 I agree. I just use videos like this to show the "you need a bit" people. But ya I agree

@MattyDemello

5 жыл бұрын

@@inspiredclips8245 awesome! Give them some carrots for me haha

@leafygreen9036

5 жыл бұрын

I’m very confused as to why everyone in these comments are so negative. Always something to nitpick eh? It’s not like there isn’t more than one way to do things “right” with horses, but everyone on here acts like it’s Rick’s way or the highway including Rick himself...

@lisettem.6241

5 жыл бұрын

Matty Natural Horsemanship Hi Matty. Good day to you. Hope to see more videos from you. Lisette

This horses name is bongo and he is super smart and trust his rider with almost everything

Jesse Drent tried bridleless too, with a jumping horse.

i love to see this, people are changing! i used to ride around my local area with nothing but a neckrope, for a long time before that with just a headcollar :) i think spending time with them in a neckrope is key...

Good morning Rick Europe early tell smoky Mr. T and Buddy and new rooster that they’re good boys

@inspiredclips8245

5 жыл бұрын

JAMMER08LV Good Morning from New England USA 5:50a.m. Have a great day and night! Laural

@ThinkLikeAHorse

5 жыл бұрын

2nd Amendment for Canada! I don't think they have free speech in Europe anymore you can get charged if you talk about Muhammad or muslims or whistle at girl. So hard to get real answers and feedback, from my experience

@mariaesmeralda2452

5 жыл бұрын

@2nd Amendment for Canada! In Europe we have never had the same amount of freedom as American people have. That's one reason why so many people emigrated from Europe to America. We have a totally different history. And I guess it feels quite different to live in the USA. The German people are totally law-abiding. There is a saying: When Germans will occupy a rail station they will buy a platform ticket. But be careful! Whenever German people do something they do it rigorously. And that can come to an evil end as history teaches. It's a tricky situation.

The higher levels of dressage need to change their rules, at present they require a bit to perform at the higher levels.

@mindfulmadnezz5150

5 жыл бұрын

If I'm still properly up to date on the rules for dressage competition, anything 3rd level and above (with the exception of a few competitions) requires a double bridle. And most competitions require a snaffle for anything below that. It really sucks that they're so stuck in their "traditional" ways that you cant even allow something as simple as a basic snaffle at the upper levels. This makes me feel there isn't much hope for competing bitless, unless a new organization (or new branch of the current one is made). If they think all that equipment is necessary to do well, then I'm not sure why they don't allow other things (because, going off what they think, wouldn't that just make it easier for them to win). LOL

@leafygreen9036

5 жыл бұрын

I think part of it is so everyone’s kind of using the same stuff. Not all those horses will behave the same bitless and not everyone would want to ride bitless so performances’ scores could be altered based on what they use which would be unfair I guess idk that’s my guess

@mindfulmadnezz5150

5 жыл бұрын

@@leafygreen9036 I mean, I don't see how it would be unfair if you could choose to use whatever you wanted. If you decided to go bitless, then thought it was unfair, you could change to bitted. I think allowing more variety and preferences would be immensely beneficial, especially if people want to actually encourage new people to try their discipline. Personally, I love dressage, but I hate the fact they require a double bridle at the upper levels and don't even allow bitless at the lower levels. I think if you've done all the hard work to get your horse to that place, you should be able to show it off, no matter what equipment or methods you use (within reason obviously).

The thing is though, is that the horse was trained with a bit first for collection etc and then weaned off to only seat cues. It can't really be done without a bit being involved....

Wtf this horse is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo talented and the rider is even more so

Just beautiful! Your getting people to think .

Metal bits for me are a no no. I have met horses that genuinely liked rubber ones, because they like to chew. If they do like the rubber ones, i usually use longer reigns and focus on leg pressure. People who say they can't ride without a bit, you still lead your horse without a bit, right?

This horse is so stunning

This video made my day. I'm not a huge fan of competitions and certainly not in favor of pot-hunting, but I really want to see this woman compete like this at one of the big shows and WIN, just to shake up the Bit Brigade ;)

I like that full speed gallop looks like both rider and horse are having fun and the dressage part is also nice class. I wouldn't put going brideless on trail beyond this pair ability. For me the limit to go brideless would be crossing high velocity roads. Since I started going bitless I never felt safer with a bit. I can ride bitless any horse that is ride-able with bit. Usually it's the owner that is scared because the horse is to "something" to be ridden without a bit. I have a side-pull with option to add bit. So sometimes I would put it on a "problem" horse and ride with double reins (just so the owner would relax) not once did I need to use the reins attached to bit and the next ride I would just go with one set of reins.

It took me a good year to be able to ride my horse into my barn's massive field in his sidepull and bareback. First I did lots of handwalking lunging him to see how he was. But, in the end, hard work and patience pays off.

@jesusismybaeagh425

5 жыл бұрын

Jennifer Lynn today was the first time I got to ride two ‘problem’ horses in halters, bareback. Both horses were 100 x more relaxed and they responded well, I even got to do some proper groundwork with them. Super happy because these horses aren’t mine but I love them to pieces and it’s nice to be able to ride without a bit :)

Wow. Beautiful horse, beautiful movements and wise rider. I don't show dressage, as a matter of fact, I don't show at all. But I love to watch the poetic communication between horse and rider, although I never liked seeing the bits. What a nice video.

@gerrycoleman7290

5 жыл бұрын

I like to observe horses being horses with all of their natural movements, not unnatural ones............Looks too much like a master/slave relationship.

@animalobsessed1

5 жыл бұрын

@@gerrycoleman7290 Ew, someone spends time teaching their horse instead of just ignoring it until they need it for transportation. How awful! It's slavery! Would you say the same thing to someone who teaches their dog high five?

@gerrycoleman7290

5 жыл бұрын

@@animalobsessed1 Look around. Use your critical eye. Think about it. The selfishness in the horse world will come into focus.

@animalobsessed1

5 жыл бұрын

@@gerrycoleman7290 Now you just sound like a bot. You didn't address a single thing I said.

You did cover every aspect of this video, I'm glad you didn't show only one side of things

Great points about muscle memory and insight.

This Saturday I’m going to a bit less dressage clinic with my lease horse!!! ☺️

@gerrycoleman7290

5 жыл бұрын

I hope a lot of people take notice and question themselves.

@pitbulls4life141

5 жыл бұрын

Gerry Coleman his name is Brendan Wise and I haven’t looked him up yet but my trainer said he was great.

Hi Rick!

"i guarantee she wouldnt do this outside the fence" she literally has videos of doing this kind of thing outside of a fence.

I agree with all those who have commented before me. I know this woman's work. She, like myself, trains here horses in the Acedemic Art of riding - which in itself is as far away from any equine competion sport as you can get. There are simply are no competions in the Academic Art of riding! Which doesn't mean that people, who train their horses in the Academic Art of riding can't join other equine sports and compete there. But most don't. The Academic Art of Riding uses the principals of great, old riding instructors of ages past on how to educate horses correctly, so that they may live a long and "healthy" life. Horses will be educated for a lengthy amount of time from the ground, before they ever get ridden. I have been doing groundwork with mine for 3 years now. The "whip", which often is thin branch of a hazelnut tree, is an extension of the riders hand/arm to direct the horses bodyparts/movements. Never to hit! Therefore a wooden branch. It would break hitting the horse! With the wooden whip, I can direct the shoulders, the hindquaters, while riding, because I have taught my horse those aids from the ground

did anybody else notice that the horse always does a larger step with the right hindleg than with the left one in the passage? (0:28)

@riannekuilder7374

4 жыл бұрын

It's a balance thing :)

I swear, if I ever win in the lottery I'll spend that money to pay people to film and document bitless riding just like THIS. Dressage, jumping, racing and whatever else can be done without a bit IF you bother teaching your horse to react to certain other cues. Heck, even verbal cues can be enough for a horse. I hope people realize this someday. Rather sooner than later.

@waunetag.2106

5 жыл бұрын

My horse responds to verbal commands pretty well i.e. ho (stop); stand; walk; trot etc. However, I was not the one who trained him. Someone did a good job. I just try not to screw up some else's hard work!

@Managable_Mayhem

5 жыл бұрын

@@waunetag.2106 Oh, it's so rare to hear people use voice commands.

@leafygreen9036

5 жыл бұрын

Out of all the issues in the world you’d focus on that? Glad you won’t be winning...

@Managable_Mayhem

5 жыл бұрын

@@leafygreen9036 And what exactly is your problem? That I'd rather advertize non-painful riding than something that harms your companion? EDIT: Also, if you're bothered about THIS being what I'd use my money for then that shows how little you care about animals. (Good job making yourself look like a douchebag there.)

@leafygreen9036

5 жыл бұрын

No, that’s not at all what I meant, way to jump to conclusions, Jesus. That’d seem like a waste of money as it probably wouldn’t sway many people at all. There’s also so many more important issues out there like starvation, actual animal abuse, diseases, etc. yet you focus on promoting horse videos??? Not sure if you realize how aggressive you sound... there’s not really a need for it

Glad to see you got an ad.

Metal and horses DO NOT mix!

@dariaharruff7025

2 жыл бұрын

i agree bits are bad

Like you said, this looks more like autopilot than anything. It's what is actually called learned helplessness, and unfortunately, a lot of people think this is "good". Lot of tail activity, but this is probably one of the better examples I've seen for traditional bridleless dressage. I always question any sort of bridleless or tackless riding; it does not always mean painless.

@recoveringsoul755

5 жыл бұрын

That is an interesting concept that the horse has just given up to get through it. I think if I were a horse it would annoy me and distract me to have that dog running behind me, unless they're "friends".

@amberspeer1906

5 жыл бұрын

@@recoveringsoul755 Oh, it's very common. Like all the miraculous videos of horses finishing jumping courses after the rider has already fallen off. Horses are creatures of habit, so they "learn" all their habits, doing the same thing over and over again. Sort of like, "I have to do this anyways, so better do it now and get it over with", the rider is satisfied, leaves the horse alone, til they go in for more practice or shows. And then people go on and say the horse loves its job, if they stopped, the horse would go crazy and start randomly jumping fences, etc. etc.. They're essentially programmed for one thing, and end up "forgetting" how to just be a horse.

@gerrycoleman7290

5 жыл бұрын

@@amberspeer1906 It looks too much to me like a master and slave relationship. I want a mutual trusting relationship.

@amberspeer1906

5 жыл бұрын

@@gerrycoleman7290 , welcome to everyday horsemanship. Sad, isn't it? You'd love seeing my horses and how we interact with them. More lovey dovey than Rick, but I'm a girl, so... I SWEAR the pink is from my kids!! LOL!

@gerrycoleman7290

5 жыл бұрын

@@amberspeer1906 I would love to see photos of your horses. Thanks for your comments.

I barrel race in a training halter lol glad to see this

I made a comment on a video about how I loved how she was riding bitless and how it's time to not use bits. I got so many people telling me their horse liked the bit and hates pressure on its nose. How it will act crazy if they dont use a bit. How they would rather have pressure in their mouths than on their nose. Saying listen to the horse some like bits better!

♥thanks Rick, I agree with you;-) ..cool horse♥

First, I always enjoy your videos even if I don’t always agree with you. Second the music in the video was drowning you out. When you did whatever video magic you did the rest was fine. I like purple halters

Hey we need a Rooster Naming Contest. I'm willing to Provide a Prize of something unique. Just tossing it out there.

@inspiredclips8245

5 жыл бұрын

You are so kind! But Joohhnn He's calling him Roo Roo but ya I don't think he used his name in his video?. Would love it if he agreed but to your idea. I'd love to win a trip to Texas LOL! Actually something you created would be near and dear. Laural

@johnm840

5 жыл бұрын

@@inspiredclips8245 Optical refraction is what it does, One of the wonders of the world. Susan wants one, not sent it yet, I have a few. Susan - don't say, I could send you a stack of them and sell for $20 each at next Garage Sale, maybe $40 each is sun is out.

@johnm840

5 жыл бұрын

@@inspiredclips8245 You don't even know what it is. Really. ? Got them all for Free from Trash. Super High Tech. thingy

@inspiredclips8245

5 жыл бұрын

John M Nope but like I said anything from you would be near and dear. Don't send me any dirty clothes. Laural

I also know her, she does Academic Art of Riding. There we don't use the whip to hit horses, but as an extension of the arm to point or very slightly touch the horse. Most people prefer to use dried wooden sticks which break if you hit anything with it. If anyone is interested, here's a short video about it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/an95zMGCcsLfeLw.html

Hey Rick. In spite of the whip (and to be fair she's not whacking her horse with it, I just don't like them) it does prove everything you've been saying for all the people who may still doubt you. And another plus is that from what I can see, this lady isn't wearing spurs. I have no doubt at all that she will use a bit when she rides out, like you say. I hope we're both wrong on that. Great video.

I asked this before, but could you do a video of your opinion about the basic idea of dressage (as far as I know dressage is originally meant to make the horse stronger and build the right muscles so that it can carry a rider comfortably)? Talk about collection, things like piaffe and stuff whitout the use of bits (as seen in this video)?

@FMA10901

5 жыл бұрын

Occulta I’m not rick but I figured I’d just put in my two cents haha. Not sure if you knew but dressage actually means “training”. Realistically any horse that gets worked in a way that improves their mind and body is doing dressage. It’s the sport of dressage that is the issue imo (and not the sport itself, just what’s considered acceptable as riding within the sport). Done correctly, dressage should do nothing but good for your horse. The issue is that people just see the flashy movements that come from a strong, well trained horse and think they can re-create it by forcing horses into false frames and making them do fancy footwork. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

@Duckminifarm

5 жыл бұрын

There is an older book called Tug of War that talks about the difference between classical dressage/slow training that develops the horse vs. modern dressage/trying to use mechanical means to force the horse into shape. This book generated some controversy, I think, because not all "modern" dressage riders use the quick-and-dirty methods. However, if you're interested, it might be a good book just to skim over.

@occulta4249

5 жыл бұрын

@@FMA10901 sure I knew that it means 'training'. Trying to talk about the classic, typical, what-you-know-as dressage though (except done correctly, of course) with collection and trying to teach the horse to lift it's back etc. I'm just curious about Rick's thoughts (and I like to hear him talk, lol) I feel the same about it as you do, btw. :-)

Sure is a beautiful horse,, graceful

You crack me up Rick...er, er, er

A beautiful thing.

Let's see now, what would you say if I said it's not a bit that controls the horse but the training of the horse from the ground first, the foundation of training. You could almost call it "mind control" of the horse, or is it the trainers education of learning to read a horses' body language, how horses deal with each other in a herd situation? Then you can apply that "language" to your training methods. Ask anyone who has been bucked off or ran away with if the bit controlled the horse? How about asking a jockey who's been run off with by a racehorse on the track. Did the bit stop that horse? Bit or no bit, you can get runaway with or bucked off, but if the horse has the solid ground work done, there's less chance of it ever happening. I think bitless riding ought to be the ultimate goal of advanced riding. Not more bit, but less bit. The upper level Dressage riders go to full double bridles and it makes no sense. Look at the stupid Snaffle bit futurities. After that the horses go into curb bits. How about the reining horses? They hardly, if ever, touch the horses mouth. You think they get those sliding stops by yanking on the horses mouth? NO. So why the big bits with the best trained horses? Answer me that? IT MAKES NO COMMON SENSE! When you drill down on those traditions, it becomes apparent. Follow the money...

@yoboybraden5157

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, so if the but hardly touches the horses mouth, then you don't need a bit! If they can be controlled without one, then why have one? Seems useless af!

I'd love to hear your thoughts on some of the Matthias Geysen videos. He does venture out without a bridle (or any tack).

Beautiful example. But it doesn't prove that she never uses a bit. I would almost garenntee this horse learned how to practice these maneuvers with a bit. And the video is cut so many times are we really watching what we think we are? Im all for bit less riding. But the editing seems very fraudulent.

I mean, I'm not really against crops if you use them the right way. Like if you did go bridle-less and the horse is a little spooked you can guide him with it. And no I don't mean literally beat his ass.

She's not wearing pink either. Lol

Off topic - Rick, heartwarming stories on Animal Miracles.

Cool

Rick, when the music on the video was playing I couldn’t hear you. The same with your video of the royal horse yesterday.

He so handsome

I’m just curios... is there a difference between a bit and and “pain-bit”? Thanks!

@cadencebyrne5478

5 жыл бұрын

It's the same thing, Rick just adds on the *Pain* part, because people still don't think bits hurt horses. so no, no difference at all

@soulfulfreedomheart2505

5 жыл бұрын

L Riley-Wilson there is a difference an both are unnecessary.

@trailblazetravelofficial

5 жыл бұрын

No, all bits are pain bits. I believe Rick just says pain in front to help people understand why bits are wrong. They are painful.

@ThinkLikeAHorse

5 жыл бұрын

If I hit you with a plastic police baton and a pain plastic police baton would you say there is a difference?

@soulfulfreedomheart2505

5 жыл бұрын

NativeHorse CH proves you need no bit.

so this is Greetje Hakvoort and Bongo. She is a classical dressage trainer and she uses a bit to train horses so after they know piaffe/passage etc she can take the bridle of to check if the horse is light enough to work without a bridle on. I think she is an amazing trainer, and also sometimes you do need a bit for such tiny bending udes in classical dressage. Rick, you should really check her out, despite the fact she uses a bit :) kzread.info/dron/aRCpCEB1lGU7QVPcVk68FA.html

@fanniszentpeteri817

5 жыл бұрын

also, she goes out of the arena without a bit, and no, he is not on autopilot.

It's quite easy to teach any horse to ride with a tack rein, my only question is how do you stop it if something or someone spooks it? I prefer to ride in a halter with reins connected, but I do ride my TIP Mustangs in competition and in a arena

@gcrranch439

5 жыл бұрын

Hollywood Meep I don’t believe there is a way to stop them. They don’t care about anyone they are scared and they bolt .

@momcat2223

5 жыл бұрын

Hollywood Meep - Sure you can stop them - lean forward and cover their eyes w your hands. They'll stop sure enough.

@darianavila3890

5 жыл бұрын

Lol 😂😂😂😂.... I hope your not serious about that though - Catmom

@darianavila3890

5 жыл бұрын

Mom cat*

Where is fricking link for this. I wanna share it

@littlekitsune1

4 жыл бұрын

Same. I wish there was a source.

Basicaly horse dont need bit but peopels wana see how much pain horses can have in mouth and how much presure

Is the bridle the part that goes around the nose and shes not using this part? So she just has the reins that come across his lower neck? Sorry, having trouble seeing it. Thx.

@jaggedalliance1224

5 жыл бұрын

She is riding with neck rope, and thats exactly what it sounds, a rope around neck to give cues to horse. Bridle is thing on horse head, usually it have metal bit inside of hore mouth and connected reins. So yeah, you got everything right :)

@samiamisme

5 жыл бұрын

@@jaggedalliance1224 hey, thanks for taking time to respond. I know my horsie knowledge is basic, but I'm learning😁 Can you have a bridle without the bit?

@jaggedalliance1224

5 жыл бұрын

Yes you can :) There are all kinds of those bitless bridles, and difference in them is how they put pressure on horse head. Not all bitless bridles are innocent as they look and they also can cause pain and discomfort, so it's important to take time and seek for one that is best for horse. Rick itsef uses rope halter to ride and I use just typical halter (with metal buckles he don't like). Halter is also something you put on head, they by design dont have bits, and they used in stable/pasture for leading a horse. Halters have buckle where you can attach lead rope to lead and tie your horse for grooming, etc. and of course you can ride in tthem as well so the difference in usage is less visible, but if you look on pictures of halter and bridle there is visible difference and Im sure you will get it easily.

@samiamisme

5 жыл бұрын

@@jaggedalliance1224 excellent information! Thanks again! 🤗💕

You do have to admit that this is a start...she is showing the world..it can be done..now...people need to change, especially these old out dated ways..horses and rider's should be judged on the abilities of this...this is the ultimate in horseman ship..nothing but body language between the rider and horse, not bits, not whips, not spurs ....ground training is the word.....

Hi Rick. I was wondering what is your opinion about rubber bits? I know iron bits are harsh but what about rubber bits?

@ThinkLikeAHorse

5 жыл бұрын

nothing in the mouth, hammers are made out of rubber, it sounds good but still is a PAIN device in the mouth

@hasnabouzani9117

5 жыл бұрын

Lily Dragneel Only things that belong in horses mouth is what they can eat

@poniesatemypencils

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThinkLikeAHorse Only pain when the rider's HANDS are harsh. Even bitless bridles can cause pain and discomfort in the wrong hands.

@teresashinkansen9402

5 жыл бұрын

@@poniesatemypencils Bullshit, that's like saying knifes are only dangerous when used too harsh to poke people. Why use bits in the first place when the threshold of hurting the horse is to small, why not use a bit less halter? people just want to make things easy and fast so they prefer to use pain to control horses and then they deny they would hurt horses.

Yeah, idk about this. While she can control the horse initially without the bridle or bit, what has happened to the horse beforehand? Regardless, riding without a bit let alone dressage is a feat. The whip is only an aid, not a tool for abuse.

@scarletrose2880

21 күн бұрын

It's actually pretty easy to train a horse without a bit. Riding without a bit is only a feat if you use a bit as a crutch. Bitless bridleless dressage, yes that's impressive.

I love your series. But what is your hangup with stalls and barns? I live in Florida we have gators mosquitoes snakes and stray dogs. Now maybe all those threats can't be completely eliminated by keeping a horse in a barn but I think the majority of them can be.

@biancawheeler270

5 жыл бұрын

jenny phillips A horse gets really bored in a stall, they only sleep for 2-3 hours a day. So most of the time they have nothing to do. If it’s connected to a pasture and they are allowed to go in an out freely, I think that’s okay. I understand the concern for wildlife, I live in Texas. We have mountain lions, coyotes, strays, and snakes. The barn I work at still allows their horses (and foals) to be out 24/7. They have access to shelters if the weather gets bad, and never been hurt by the wildlife

Rick where can we send you videos ?

NativeHorse CH 🐴💖💯 horses 😘

This is what i'm aiming for. I've been following them on Instagram for a few years now. Her horses are amazing! (she does classical dressage) I'd honestly love to do this with my guy, but he doesn't have the heart to be as into it as Bongo (horse in video). Got a couple lessons in classical dressage booked for next year (with my other horses) and also getting some books as I've analysed and analysed videos over and over, I'm missing something to make the movements click. No point in continuing training it, just ending in fights. Who knows, he may come back from his holiday with an open mind and we can try again, maybe I can see what I've been doing wrong. I love training and learning, so it's hard for me to just leave it because when I have a goal, I'm gonna achieve it. Nothings gonna stop me, I sometimes forget that the horse gets tired. If we do a movement better than 5 minutes ago, I try for it again even though I'm sore and tired because I get this adrenaline rush, the horse doesn't. Getting better though. I have set limits and have a better schedule/plan now.

Hey Rick, I have a video and pics of some street carriages here in Mexico and I think you'll have both a laugh and a good rant on them, but I'm not sure how to send them to you

Ik think the horse does not know what is going to happen before it happens. The women just gives him orders differly from how she should give them whit a bitt

Rick, do you think you could try to dig up some more videos with bitless riding or maybe verbal cues? I'd really love to see more of that. (Or videos in which you explain specific foal behavior, I'm trying to figure out how to make a realistic comic in the future, but foal behavior is so hard to find. Especially natural.)

@InkGraffiti

5 жыл бұрын

Almost any documentary on wild horses will go over foal behavior. Check out the 'Cloud: Stallion of the Rockies' series, you see a lot of good horse behaviors as well as foal activity! Unless you mean in a domestic situation, then yeah, thats a bit more rare

@Managable_Mayhem

5 жыл бұрын

@@InkGraffiti I've actually not had much luck with either, wild or domestic documentaries. The clacking of teeth is rarely shown or explained as well as many other things I'm probably not even aware of existing due to the lack of mentioning in any media. The only thing that frequently mentioned is possibly the 'foal stays close to heard', even that they stay close to their mother in general is often not mentioned. So I'm not keen on documentaries for this specific topic. I'm most interested in wild behavior since domestic is often manipulated by humans with inprinting and all that as well as lack of natural contact with other horses of any age. But I think I'll rewatch Cloud again, it's been years and I might have forgotten most of it by now when it comes to information on behavior. XD So thanks for the reminder~.

@animalobsessed1

5 жыл бұрын

Realistic animal stories tend to be pretty boring. How do you intend to make a compelling plot without any drama or goal driven characters?

@Managable_Mayhem

5 жыл бұрын

​@@animalobsessed1 ​ I'm not looking for 'animal stories' tho, I'm looking for documentaries. Which is a big difference. XD Docus are only about giving useful information about the environment, behavior, etc. and that is precisely what I'm interested in to learn some more things about foals (although, as I said, they are usually heavily neglected in documentaries when it comes to their specific behavior). Not everyone needs a compelling plot to find something interesting, mind you. And documentaries can be plenty compelling if you find the subject interesting or are just curious.

There is a german girl that you need to check out. Yes, she do use bit sometimes but other then that she is amazing! And people don't go to her site and hate on her. I am not supporting bits but there is no need to go on her site and hate or be nasty. Check her out NativeHorse!

@streetcoder76

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, or check out Kenzie Dysli: kzread.info/dash/bejne/p5WVybKReaXVp9I.html. She trains the horses for the stormwind (Ostwind) films.