These Two Games are 13 Years Apart - Arkham City VS Suicide Squad: KTJL
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Batman Arkham City released in 2011 compared to 'Suicide Squad' Game which released in 2024. Which one is better in your opinion?
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@marcorichardson4109
5 ай бұрын
You're making me want to replay the entire series 🤔
@ReyRey277
5 ай бұрын
Blud I'm not saying the game is good. Far from it. But you turned down the graphics to make it look worse😂😂 nobody gonna give a fuc but just saying. Anything for views lmao
@hamizanyunos1502
5 ай бұрын
It so surreal that older games seem to have better visuals, presentation and atmosphere than newer games.
@NikTek
5 ай бұрын
@@ReyRey277All footage from Suicide Squad was captured on Xbox Series X. There are no graphics options to choose from (Like Performance or Fidelity), this is how the developer intendeed the game to look like. In the next Video I will go over graphical issues that this game has, I encourage you to watch it when it comes out.
@ronanwaring3408
5 ай бұрын
The graphics are better, sharper edges and better polished, the colour palette is way off though it makes it seem a bit muted.
Here it goes guys, you can buy an entire Arkham Trilogy game at the cost of one Suicide Squad game
@randyneves9701
5 ай бұрын
Infinitely worth it
@bruhdabruh
5 ай бұрын
Cheaper wthhhhh 😭😭😭 its almost like 10 dollars at some dmr shops lol
@atlas3256
5 ай бұрын
On sale it's literally only 10 dollars for all 3
@SekiroZ
5 ай бұрын
Y ur buying it was free once
@matbat5652
5 ай бұрын
Here in Thailand, I just paid $5.55 for the complete editions of all the Arkham games
We need more powerful machines for shittier looking games
@czaczaczar
5 ай бұрын
It's so ironic that prices for GPUs keep increasing with less performance so we can play lazily-made rushed & overpriced games.
@TheVektast
5 ай бұрын
@@czaczaczar After 2020 the AAA game industry (and the GPU market) is a shit show.
@DEADEYESSS
5 ай бұрын
@@czaczaczarGames like Alan Wake 2 and the Spider-Man games give me hope
@dajman6992
5 ай бұрын
@@DEADEYESSS Spider-Man was a woke show imo, but gameplay was enjoyable nonetheless
@CertifiedSigma101
5 ай бұрын
@dajman6992 yeah it had the woke flags but it was well optimized but Marvel’s spider-man 2 is uhhhh....yeah
Passion to Soulless.
@E.after.D.I.am.T.H
5 ай бұрын
Passion to Business.
@i3eaniie602
5 ай бұрын
I mean- the city is meant to be soulless everybody kinda died 😭
@wannaspritecranberry06
5 ай бұрын
@@i3eaniie602lmao 🖐️😭
@_Djura_
5 ай бұрын
Kepp buying lazy and shitty made games you dork. @@i3eaniie602
@kazekami5513
4 ай бұрын
@@i3eaniie602 yet arkham city (despite literally lacking citizens, and is only occupied by gotham's worse criminals) has more soul to it.
All Arkham games are on an another level. Rocksteady started shitting after Arkham Knight
@chasekilleen1459
5 ай бұрын
After Sweet Baby Inc as well. I hate them
@Theunamedchannel000antiwoke
5 ай бұрын
SB Inc is another reason why my respect for Russia and the Middle East increases everyday. I don't think I have to explain why to be honest.@@chasekilleen1459
@Axeiaa
5 ай бұрын
Arkham Knight itself although visually nice had a whole host of issues on PC at launch. iirc it even got pulled off steam. For me personally it ran mostly fine except for the batmobile which dropped frames big time.
@man-batman6775
5 ай бұрын
@Axeiaa Actually, I didn't have such of these problems. Even though the story wasn't as good as previous games i liked the gameplay. Batmobile was the addition what gamers wanted to see since Arkham Asylum. I think Expanding the map, improving the graphics and fight mechanics were a nice touches to the game. I don't have a big problem with the game
@havocking9224
5 ай бұрын
@@AxeiaaI've got Arkham Knight as redeem code with GTX 980. It was playing withoht any significant problems. Honestly when i got all arkham games for free, i felt kinda bad. Great games.
The Batman Arkham games are masterpieces.
@zhimanooka
5 ай бұрын
Not Knight
@giveyourmeatagoodolrub
5 ай бұрын
@@zhimanookathank you thought I was the only one
@randalthor6872
5 ай бұрын
@@zhimanooka Even Knight is a masterpiece when you look at how shitty modern game development has become. The trilogy was simply amazing and Rocksteady is a shell of it's former self.
@testocore5607
5 ай бұрын
Never liked this series but it *is* better
@ogsloppnbiscuiitz1108
5 ай бұрын
@@randalthor6872*So it’s only a masterpiece when compared to games these days? 😅 cause..*
We're evolving backwards.
@HanmaHeiro
5 ай бұрын
My eyes don't see a graphical fidelity difference. Only a style difference. Can you point out to me the devolving choices in the squad game. I of course saw the bad gameplay. No excuse for that
@QualityEJC
5 ай бұрын
@HanmaHeiro arkham city has better textures and lighting for a game with no ray tracing. Keep that in mind.
@czaczaczar
5 ай бұрын
@@HanmaHeiro Unalive squad doesn't have ambiance, flat textures as in worse bump mapping, non-existent cinematic lighting & horrible UI. The older Arkham games have darker gritty lighting that fits perfectly well with the dark superhero theme. Worst of all is that they don't stfu during combat. Rocksteady is filled with amateurs after the veterans left. If you can't see the difference then you either don't have any experience with 3d animation or don't care about fidelity. It's like claiming to be an audiophile but can't differentiate 44k Hz from 48k Hz.
@foxalpha3203
5 ай бұрын
@@HanmaHeiroarkham knight looks a million times better than this pile of trash get your eyes checked
@oynamalan
5 ай бұрын
dEvolving
Art design > Raw graphics
@DaDoubleDee
5 ай бұрын
always always always. the N64 era is the best example
@nogi7028
5 ай бұрын
Exactly. Lower pixels with micro details > higher pixels with no details
5 ай бұрын
@@DaDoubleDee Yeah. Some N64 games, especially the ones not aiming for realism aged really well. Games like Conker's Bad Fur Day, Banjo-Kazooie are still looking good. And often developers really push the limits and came up with creative art direction that compensated the lack of hardware capabilities. I think even many Switch games can be mentioned, Switch hardware is weak but some devs come up with some really pleasing art direction that won't age badly. In case of Arkham City / Arkham Knight and Suicide Squad, the technological differences are huge. UE3 vs UE4, huge hardware performance gap but amazing art direction destroys the modern tech.
@SantiagoLeungPrime
5 ай бұрын
And yet SSKTJL's graphics is far from the best nor does it excel in anything. Live service, undoing of Arkham Batman and being disrespectful for DC heroes mark the downfall of Rocksteady
@mrbust999
5 ай бұрын
Suicide squad doesn't have either of those two.
the devs working at rocksteady: 1:49
@Cosmicmorales
5 ай бұрын
💀💀
@JjhgyrdfOoytvvdxcsdgy
5 ай бұрын
LMAO
@scottski02
5 ай бұрын
DESTRUCTION 100
As times went by I always thought "Is it just me or did older games actually looked good"? And now that feeling is a reality. Game developers need to focus more on the art style and less on their "Cinematic experience"
@stephencroft1612
5 ай бұрын
most of the ps3/360 era games still look good there’s no big revelation about this
@ThePaperKhan
5 ай бұрын
@@stephencroft1612 i know you said most, but the early years for that generation looked horrible lol
@harleenquinzel128
5 ай бұрын
Not just games, movies as well.
Arkham City requires a NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (518.4 GFLOPs) to run while Suicide Squad requires a GTX 1070 (6.5 TFLOPs / 6,500 GFLOPS). Where is all that extra horse power going?
@VSMOKE1
5 ай бұрын
Going through your computer and spying on you of course
@moritzbecker131
5 ай бұрын
Resolution
@angrygnome4304
5 ай бұрын
@@moritzbecker131 you're right it required a GTX 460 for 1080p (high) 60fps and SS requires a RTX 2060 for 1080p (low) 60fps.
@sadboi8458
5 ай бұрын
To the s*x toy that the devs are gonna shove up the a** of the people who spent 100$ for this game
5 ай бұрын
It goes into absolutely ass optimization.
Suicide squad looks a bit more colorful yet somehow less detailed. They really thought we wouldn’t notice.
@alondvorkin2762
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, such a bland color palette, way less atmospheric...
@waltrautengels816
5 ай бұрын
The water animation looks like a fffing PS2 game in SS!
@Batman-ps4om
5 ай бұрын
The Arkham games graphics weren't any better, they just had this filter like texture that made it look good
@waltrautengels816
5 ай бұрын
@@Batman-ps4om BS!
@Batman-ps4om
5 ай бұрын
@@waltrautengels816 Arkham Asylum? Did you see the difference between the original and Return to Arkham?
- 2010 devs care about customers and games developments - 2020-4 devs care about money 💰
@user-yt6et5nw6z
5 ай бұрын
and SJWs opinion(they don't playing games btw)
@miha493
5 ай бұрын
Correction. Management care only about money. Devs in eternal crunch and don't care about anything anymore. They are just suffer and exist in spherical twitter in vacuum, where they pretending that they are happy, trendy, motivated and tolerant. In year AAA game production just sucked all life and motivation from my friends, that thought that it's so cool and funny to start work in IT and game dev.
@ashtonderojas821
5 ай бұрын
Eh tbf the 2010s were full of greedy game devs as well. Did yall forget about loot boxes? Also Arkham Knight on pc was a dumpster fire mess of a port which rocksteady had to spend months to fix.
@Theunamedchannel000antiwoke
5 ай бұрын
@@ashtonderojas821 yeah, but it just got worse ever since 2020
@hermitcard4494
5 ай бұрын
More fault from executives and ceos, snd sjws. Devs still care about games as art, except the woke developers who see it as a mean for THE MESSAGE.
honestly games have reached "good enough" level of graphics long time ago, right now we're just wasting power and needlessly extend development cycles for improvements 99% of players won't even notice
@TheVektast
5 ай бұрын
Yeah imho we have reached "good enough" level of graphics in 2007 with Crysis 17 years ago. Most modern games don't even reach the level of 2013's Ryse: Son of Rome and still have huge system requirements.
@bencegyenis322
5 ай бұрын
@@TheVektastjust played Ryse again a couple of weeks ago, and you are absolutely right it still holds up or even better than many of the current games
@OilFreeFeathers
5 ай бұрын
@@TheVektastGrass and trees aren't everything. Crysis 1 has very dated humans.
@digitalben420
5 ай бұрын
Facts.
@E.after.D.I.am.T.H
5 ай бұрын
💯 There was a period when games were too good that we barely had the hardware to run them. Now games are too bad that we barely have the hardware to run'em. I think these graphics card companies and the customers are to blame. About a decade ago, we started getting good cards and there was period where gamers were complaining about the stupid FPS. No matter what, all they wanted was more FPS. Developers didn't hold back, now all they do is try to run their game on the best card available in the industry and then release it. Now they can come back at the customers asking for optimisation to go get a better set up.
the main problem with most of modern games are they sacrifice the soul and atmosphere for graphics, its soo easy to find out which had blood sweat and tears poured into to it and which was a lazy cash grab
@TopGun6986
5 ай бұрын
Well that's not quite the case is it? The Arkham games are way, way older with better graphics (!!) and much more soul to it all
@granatengeorg
5 ай бұрын
People tend to mix up the technical side of graphics with the artistic one. Technically, the new one is more advanced and therefore more demanding to run. But art direction wise, the old ones are more focused on creating a high contrast, high visual detail aesthetic. Technically, the new one has it harder because they have varying time of day, and therefore can’t pre bake all the lighting, and artistically, the new one also is a harder job for the team, since making a city that works under all lighting scenarios is harder and naturally means less polish than only one lighting scenario. None of that is to excuse the final result tho ofc, the old ones effectively managed to do more with less, and if no one cares about having the city in daytime as well, then one can totally argue that going for it was a misguided decision to begin with. (which seems to be a common theme about this game in general lel)
@SaulGoodmanered
5 ай бұрын
@@TopGun6986 ss has better graphics city had an art style.
@davidfcorreia
5 ай бұрын
@@granatengeorg You realise that what you said doesn't make sense right? So where we put games that are incredible good looking with night/day cycles? Because there are many games that don't look the shit that Suicide Squad looks and have a night/day cycle xD We need to stop to try to create arguments for the biggest problem gaming industry has.
@brunopessanha8452
5 ай бұрын
@davidfcorreia he is still ✅️... what he said is spot on
games looking like fortnite and running like crysis is just normal nowadays
suicide squad looks like it was made from playdooh
@zdspider6778
5 ай бұрын
It looks like Fortnite.
@QualityEJC
5 ай бұрын
@zdspider6778 if you had told me this was a mod for Fortnite I would have believed you.
@NaimChowdhury-cj4kk
5 ай бұрын
@@zdspider6778Hell even Fortnite looks better
@NaimChowdhury-cj4kk
5 ай бұрын
@@zdspider6778And I’m not just saying that because I’m a fan boy like I seen Fortnite creative games look better than suicide squad kill the justice league
@NaimChowdhury-cj4kk
5 ай бұрын
@@zdspider6778Like I am being so dead ass with you bro
Graphical fidelity, vs. art direction. Ultimately, the former has already reached a point where most people are happy. Ultra realism is not something developers should focus on over true artistic direction, clarity and immersion. I am immersed in Arkham Asylum despite it being 15 years old - no such immersion comes from SSKTJL when all I can actually see are neon explosions, random numbers and multipliers and purple orbs everywhere.
@DaDoubleDee
5 ай бұрын
Arkham Knight had a good balance of fidelity and art direction, the wetness and light reflections and the design of the architecture - that game was really good looking.
@viddykhaos2896
5 ай бұрын
@@DaDoubleDee it absolutely was. But even taking Asylum, and comparing to a Gotham Knights or to SSKTJL, despite the latter two having higher fidelity they lack the atmosphere of Asylum. Rocksteady really lost their artistic hand here…
@DaDoubleDee
5 ай бұрын
@@viddykhaos2896 yea, the co founders left during the production of suicide squad, which was in development since 2017, so my guess was there was internal conflict in the studio for a while
@viddykhaos2896
5 ай бұрын
@@DaDoubleDee yes, I heard that Rocksteady as we knew it was a very different studio both in the people present and the game making philosophy. Regardless, to see that they completely stepped over the legacy is disconcerting. Not surprising, though, given how AAA gaming is heading
The biggest disrespect, the last time Kevin Conroy voiced Batman and making this cannon to Arkham franchise.
@JoseHernandez-xv2bt
5 ай бұрын
That’s not the case. It may be his last time as Arkham Batman but he’s in two more projects, the animated cartoon and crisis on infinite earths part 3. That last one I think he’s playing as the 90s Batman
@gingerdan4367
5 ай бұрын
Mate he fucking signed the contract looked at the script and then fucking voiced them he agreed to what was happening to the character so they didn’t disrespect anyone how could they have changed parts after his death with ai? That would be fucking disrespectful. But maybe stop getting butt hurt over something that actually doesn’t really affect you it’s not like you were Kevin’s personal friend or family he didn’t know you existed so quite frankly getting so pissed and bitchy isn’t your right.
@sigiligus
5 ай бұрын
I don’t care what the studio says, it’s not canon. Canon isn’t just “whatever the current rights holder says.” The idea of canon comes from Christian theology, and even in that 2000 year old tradition there are different canons depending on what sect you belong to. It’s not just “the Roman Catholic Church gets to decide for all time what’s canon” (although I guess Catholics believe that). Canon is a nebulous concept negotiated between the original artist and the consumer. You can’t just fire the entire original creative team, pump out something that doesn’t even adhere to the continuity of the original, and say “Yeah but we have the copyright therefore you have to accept it as canon to the continuity you like.”
@gingerdan4367
5 ай бұрын
@@sigiligus originally it meant cane by the Hebrew-greek and was changed to mean norm or rule of faith when the Christian’s adopted the word The Church Fathers of the 4th century ce first employed it in reference to the definitive,… In biblical literature: New Testament canon, texts, and versions. However, sometimes in literature, original writers have not approved works as canon, but original publishers or literary estates of original writers.
@thevlaka
5 ай бұрын
if you can call that a.i. generated shit Conroy's voice
Cape physics of Batman in Arkham games is enough to be GOTY worthy.
@FireOccator
5 ай бұрын
But they cover Batman's ass, so it's sexist.
@kwisatzhaderach.
5 ай бұрын
Cake is also very GOTY worthy.
@nephilim115-yg
5 ай бұрын
Isnt the story of Bat's cape about a animator who took like 3 years developing it ??
@kazekami5513
4 ай бұрын
@@nephilim115-yg yep, all by himself too.
I love the part where they can't shut up for one second while fighting people in Suicide Squad, and then it shows Batman opening up a can of whoopass without making a single colorful remark
@nestormelendez9005
5 ай бұрын
I'm the batman , and today is not your day - young fan fiction writer
Some games are just timeless
modern developers are amateurs compared to the old ones
@Delta-ass
5 ай бұрын
They’re mostly the same people, just under different circumstances
@charlesburns7391
5 ай бұрын
@@Delta-assI feel bad that Rocksteady's devs were forced to make this. They wanted a superman game, not a knockoff guardian of the galaxy game that the WB executives are obsessed with.
@dajman6992
5 ай бұрын
@@charlesburns7391Not single one of the old crew in todays Rocksteady.
@Snake_eyes0
5 ай бұрын
They wanted to make a batman beyond game@@charlesburns7391
@arandomscoutmain
5 ай бұрын
@@charlesburns7391no the old rocksteady devs formed into a new company called hundred star games
The water in Suicide Squad looks like a bucket of blue slime
This new wave of AAA games are a crime against humanity.
Got me wanting to play the old Arkham games again!!
@thiccluigi6906
5 ай бұрын
Me too!
@erayt9721
5 ай бұрын
I did by starting from arkham origins, I played all, only arkham knight left. I’m looking forward to re-play again, I definitely recommend playing arkham games rather than this sh
@-bielle2985
5 ай бұрын
Do it! They're timeless masterpieces, all 4 of them
@nestormelendez9005
5 ай бұрын
Really man that new game file looking good
@kazekami5513
4 ай бұрын
@@nestormelendez9005 when you say good, you mean ass.
03:15 Good God, what the hell even is happening. I can't even understand what's going on! It's all so bright and neon!
@younes7nv
5 ай бұрын
The HUD is shitty , too much things on screen
@nogi7028
5 ай бұрын
@@younes7nv I really hate those HUD outlines that are so prevalent in modern games. Games used to strive for realism
@gamer46653
5 ай бұрын
They took the borderlands aesthetic and fucked it in the ass
I will never forgive Rocksteady for ruining a game about one of my favourite character team
@ape5490
5 ай бұрын
blame warner brothers
@RexiWhy
5 ай бұрын
@@ape5490 It's......kinda both companies' faults both Rocksteady and WB messed up with this game, really.
@arandomscoutmain
5 ай бұрын
@@RexiWhyrocksteady is barely rocksteady anymore all the experienced devs who made the Arkham games have left
@stevenharrington3220
5 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as a suicide squad fan. Lol
@michaelarias3310
5 ай бұрын
@@stevenharrington3220 there are many. Its just the game was unnecessary
channels like yours are SUPER important to the gaming scene i love u
I don't even understand how you mess up water that badly. It looks like a massive, sentient blob that's breathing and undulating instead of an actual body of water.
The Catwoman walking animation alone looks more fluid that any animation form the new game.
Love how you used the original City and not the remastered, and somehow it still looks way better than Suicide Squad KTL lol
@etrusco2898
5 ай бұрын
The remastered versions of Asylum and City completely ruined the lighting, the OG versions remain the way to play these games.
@smokey12823
5 ай бұрын
@@etrusco2898 I agree honestly. But the fact that the original City and Asylum still look amazing to this day is amazing.
@etrusco2898
5 ай бұрын
@@smokey12823 That's inmaculate art direction for you, Portal 2, Dead Space 2, Dark Souls and Skyrim are also from 2011 and look Incredibly good to this day.
@gamble777888
5 ай бұрын
The original City on PC is easily the best looking version of the game.
Unpopular opinion: the lightening in old games are better than modern games
@TheLastBrandon
5 ай бұрын
I completely agree. Pre rendered lighting is always more artistic and cinematic. These newer lightning techniques at be more “realistic” but it always looks terrible by comparison.
@Will-dw2tr
5 ай бұрын
@@TheLastBrandonyea my animation teacher told me, don't replicate the lighting of the real world or else it will look flat.
@jpha98
5 ай бұрын
You are talking about art design. Lighting in modern games is far superior not even close. The problem is when you don't have good art direction or enough time to make better adjustments.
@Getooooofed
5 ай бұрын
@@Will-dw2trthat’s a good tip real world is pretty bland anyways.
@donovanjoseph737
5 ай бұрын
Realistic lighting can look really good while still being stylized to match the game. It’s just that most games don’t use realistic lighting correctly and it sucks
Gaming was better when it was less popular.
@WeeWeeJumbo
5 ай бұрын
gaming was better before everything went online.
@fuejrbtb
5 ай бұрын
Fr
@OilFreeFeathers
5 ай бұрын
@@fuejrbtbFr Fr you weren't even born yet no cap.
@E.after.D.I.am.T.H
5 ай бұрын
@@WeeWeeJumboscrew the gaming community, they were hell bent on online multiplayer no matter what genre.
@Indigo_1001
5 ай бұрын
And when was that? Cause by 2009 they were already making as much as movies. Y’all just call whatever is popular bad when you became a cynical adult
Even arkham asylum better
@shadowking773
5 ай бұрын
best art direction
@sufyaanbulbulia4455
5 ай бұрын
The art direction in Asylum is just on another level
@RayLynxx
5 ай бұрын
Nop
@4ybakdude409
5 ай бұрын
Arkham Asylum is the best of all
@aestheticmirror9257
5 ай бұрын
i thought he was gonna make a arkham knight comparison but no, city was enough
Rocksteady didn't develop SSKTJL. It's corpse did.
@wlot28
5 ай бұрын
That is a ridiculous acronym
@Theunamedchannel000antiwoke
5 ай бұрын
@@wlot28 it's literally the acronym for the title of the game lol
@wlot28
5 ай бұрын
@@Theunamedchannel000antiwoke I know, it's just super long almost to the point of parody
@Theunamedchannel000antiwoke
5 ай бұрын
@@wlot28 yeah ikr
@SuperXzm
5 ай бұрын
I accidentally SSKTJLed the whole studio
Passion vs Greed
@user-tq9fi4vn4x
5 ай бұрын
Every game exists because of greed, and that's not a bad thing.
@kazekami5513
4 ай бұрын
@@user-tq9fi4vn4xnope. That's a very dystopian look at things.
Crazy to think Arkham City is nearly 13 years old now! I remember watching the trailers for it as a kid back in 2010-2011, good times… but sadly that RockSteady is LONG gone 😔
What the hell is wrong with SSKTJL's water? It looks like gelatine
This is how it happened, this is how Rocksteady died....
From Rocksteady to Rockstumble. Rest in pieces dear old studio.
Arkham Knight players, gather up! Let's send a message to WB and all play AK tomorrow!!! Put those numbers up!
One has soul, the other is soulless corporate greed.
Rocksteady (prime) was just built diferent
@arandomscoutmain
5 ай бұрын
The old devs were goated they made the Arkham games
Just reminds me of half life 2. It’s almost 20 yrs old yet gave me most immersing experience of my life. While I first played it in 2021. It was mesmerising and told me that gaming is not about graphics.
Older games have soul
@RedCommunistDragon
5 ай бұрын
Both older and newer games have soul, however, there are many games, no matter the generation, that are soulless.
@wlot28
5 ай бұрын
@@RedCommunistDragon New games having a soul is the exception, not the rule
@RedCommunistDragon
5 ай бұрын
@@wlot28 That’s been the case since the creation of video games.
@wlot28
5 ай бұрын
@@RedCommunistDragon Not true at all, look at the late 90s, 2002, 2004, 2007, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2016... all years packed with back to back masterpieces. We are very much in a slump when it comes to the quantity of good games being released
@RedCommunistDragon
5 ай бұрын
@@wlot28 There were always bad games. You’ve either never heard of them or you’re simply denying history.
Damn, even Arkham City still looks good. And the atmosphere>>>>
It's a similair thing with movie special effects. Either the talent just isn't there anymore or they're simply trying to cut costs. Either way it's a shame that things seem to be going backwards rather than forward.
I never played these but the 2011 way better especially they're running Unreal Engine 3
@shadowking773
5 ай бұрын
check out arkham knight it was also in ue3 and looks better than most new aaa games
@EmuQuest
5 ай бұрын
Hell even Knight used UE3, and still looks better than a lot of UE4 games
Something odd with the lightning and shadowing for sure.
@TelicSyndrome
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, both games have very different graphical styles, at least in the clips chosen here. The old Arkham games look great for sure, but they are also very old, meaning stuff like depth of view or texture quality of anything but the clearly visible items can be way lower. I'm not a fan of the look of Suicide squad, it feels over saturated, but if you'd put the same lighting on both games it would look way better than the old Arkham games. This mostly just shows how important picking the right art style is, over just how many pixels your city is made up of.
@QualityEJC
5 ай бұрын
@TelicSyndrome which one looks better?
@coffee7180
5 ай бұрын
@@TelicSyndrome Art style is more important than graphics Fallout 4, Wolfenstein, vampyr are games that are still great to look at.
@EmuQuest
5 ай бұрын
@@coffee7180I'd say Bioshock, Dishonored and Jet Set Radio would be better examples
We're devolving lmao.
Don't forget that system requirements are increased significantly for SS while looking like that.
As long as someone buys it, they will do it. Yes, Todd Howard?
I still have my PS3 with Arkham City. This video told me one thing. I need to be Batman again. Time to blow some dust off!
Just wait until you guys find out most studios outsource development to Indian sweatshops these days
@Delta-ass
5 ай бұрын
lol
@georgen5882
5 ай бұрын
Or just wait until you find out he turned down suicide squad and turned up Arkham knight. No settings given on both of these videos, no explanation. Suicide squad definitely looks lowered.
@diegosilang4823
5 ай бұрын
@@georgen5882 white knight to the resuce, to save femimist karens from common sense.
@denisdelinger3265
5 ай бұрын
@@georgen5882lowered or not it’s absolute dogwater and worse than every batman game Fuck the graphics anyway…but got no atmosphere, absolute utter ass gameplay, writing and sound…just terrible
@japethspeaketh7034
5 ай бұрын
@@georgen5882this is what I call cope.
That’s great showcase of why artistry matters, art direction and smart design that knows how to use available tech to the best of results will always be superior to more powerful but generic next gen graphics.
It's like they just slapped a blue filter over it and called it a day
1:50 „I can feel this placegetting worse, minute by minute“ Next second: I see what you did there😂
The arkham game graphic wise still holds up..thats crazy
@jhnyjoejoe69
5 ай бұрын
No, they don't hold up at all. 😂 The artstyle and visuals do but not the graphics which is more to do with overall resolution, aillising, and level of texture detail. I tried them in max settings and they look dated next to good newer quality games. SS:KtJL is low quality trash so even with better graphics/resolution, the artsyle/visuals are inferior to the Arkham games.
My question is how did you stay connected long enough to record the footage?!
Arkham City GPU requirements are: *ATI 3850HD 512 MB* or *NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB.* These are cards from 2007. The game was made with the PS3 in mind. If you go to that techpowerup site and choose the next best thing, the GeForce 9800 GT (which I think was comparable to the 8800 GT), then this is how they compare to the GPUs that "SS" lists on the Steam page: 1070 is 1013% RX Vega 56 is 1078% 2080 is 1652% 6800 XT is 2601% So the requirements are somewhere between x10 (to play "SS" on LOW, at 30 fps) and x26 ("high", 60 fps). All while somehow looking not that much better, and often even worse. But I think there's something wrong with the 6800 XT assessment. It's not twice as fast as the 2080, I've seen benchmarks. It's 50-60% at best.
Until recently, growing up with these games... i never took the chance to take a moment to appreciate them and how privelaged I was to grow up with games made with such passion. Now i can only look back on them as a fond memory of the past.
It is incredible that the systems from 10 years ago were cheaper, better graphically, more optimized, with better physics and everything better, what happened? I would understand the reason if they had saved in the budget, but it was very expensive, it doesn't make sense. Should we go back to using graphics engines from several years ago?
It’s evolving, but backwards.
This is how blessed we were. No live service, no useless rpg elements, no overamount of bad jokes, no need for a thousand things going on the screen made for kids who have ADHD, no need to « fit » the project in a particular universe just to sell it.
OMG! Its getting better and better with this Videos.
This game should have focused on hand to hand combat way more than shooting. Dead shot should have had the guns and some exceptions here and there but for the most part should have been hand to hand and bring back the awesome mechanics from the Batman games.
Not the water movement being more accurate in Arkham City than Suicide Squad 💀
Suicide Squad’s UI gives me a headache
Man your vids are true eye openers
we will never get that Arkham Batman feeling again, Suicide Squad murdered that.
The important thing is that we, gamers, need to give these corporates the only feedback they listen to - no money. Do not buy shitty games and they will need to think again. I saw an earlier video from NikTek where Harley was beating a guy on the ground with a bat or smth and it was making squeaky noices and the guy with every beat went to like 2 m above ground, I mean W T F
Arkham Assylum also looks (and is) much better than Suicide Squad :)
2:06 harley getting stuck like that got me dead☠️
Crazy that this isn’t even comparing to Arkham Knight, which arguably looks the best from the original games, this is using City, a PS360 title.
two words: LIVE SERVICE
NIKTEK uploading quick batman to get that Asmon reaction vid money 😂
You did KTJL dirty with that transition from batman to Harley quinn traversing the enviorment lmao
0:51 PS2 water physics on a €70+ PS5 game, brilliant
@hurricane7727
5 ай бұрын
Lol
Older games used to have very specific post processing effects on to enhance the overall look of games, now they prefer to keep the image clean, I imagine its so you can see other players skins clearer so that you would want to buy them for your game.
@WeeWeeJumbo
5 ай бұрын
do you know what you're talking about? be honest.
@LANGIMATION
5 ай бұрын
@@WeeWeeJumbo you really don't have to take my word for it you can literally look at the games now compared to games over 10 years ago, they had a lot of post processing effects that set a tone for a game, now these games have little to none, the most you'll get are glare effects that look out of place. It's too clean. The only reason I can come up with for these decisions are for clarity on purchasable cosmetics
@FordHoard
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's like they forgot about HBAO
Absolute Joke vs Absolute Masterpiece
You can get frame rate, resolution (textures), or high object density, but it’s damn hard to pack all 3 in with current hardware
It hurts to watch how the mighty have fallen
I love how this isn't even Arkham Knight lol
imagine putting so much effort and time into something like this just for most of everyone to HATE it.
@KanjiEngKorean
5 ай бұрын
The Fortnite/COD fan base defends this game 😂
Be glad guys, if it were not for such amazing how would we get more niktek content.
For me what seems to be the biggest difference is just the lack of atmosphere, If kill the justice league hadn’t made the city seem so bland and just realistic it would look so much better. Games trash regardless though
I'll be honest. The game (SSKTJL) doesn't look that bad overall if you don't compare it to the other Arkham games. The actual motion capture and performances are very solid, but the problem is the wonky storytelling, the inconsistent plot, the disrespectful and nerfed portrayals of the Justice League, the disgustingly horrible boss fights, the LOOTY SHOOTY style, the TikTok Brain gameplay and overall repeating mission types. I'd call it 'Waste potential'.
@harya7517
5 ай бұрын
Even gameplay wise, there are far more superior games rather than Kill the Justice League. Something like Just Cause 3, Doom etc. Hell I'd even dare enough to put Fortnight for comparison lmao.
The farther you go back, the sadder it gets
Thank you for this! Metropolis being cleaner is fine, but it feels like it's missing a layer of dirt and grunge. Like even the cleanest cities have a certain amount of weathering and dirt build-up in places. I will say I prefer Harley's movement when walking in SS to the comically over the top bum wiggle they gave Catwoman. That's probably the only compliment I can offer though. The fight mechanics with all the power-up and points displayed in the middle of the fight makes it feel like an old arcade game!
Arkham trilogy: Dark, true mature ambiance of the DC comics Suicide Squad: Fortnite engine. Or something that clearly looks like this.
Sweet Baby inc really did a number on the industry.
Late stage capitalism in action.
@WeeWeeJumbo
5 ай бұрын
it's only optimism that makes you think it's "late," the optimistic belief (unfounded) that the end is nigh. but is it? is capitalism dying? i don't think so, friend. i don't think so
@FreelanceDev4life
5 ай бұрын
Sorry, fiat inflation isn't capitalism - it's facism.
@jalend9974
5 ай бұрын
Late stage corporatism I think
@knowledgeanddefense1054
5 ай бұрын
@@FreelanceDev4life Fascism is capitalism in decay.
@knowledgeanddefense1054
5 ай бұрын
@@jalend9974 Corporatism is a natural and inherent byproduct of capitalism, as long as there's a government (which is fundamental to capitalism, no ancap isn't a real thing) there will be police to defend it by keeping the people in line, and as long as those cops exist there will be interest in lobbying it.
There's just something different about Gotham overall that makes it so much better as a video game environment. The grittiness of the city, the way that when you think of it you can't help but imagine it on a dark night, moon hanging low in the sky, dark clouds, overcast, the dirty and murky waters, depilated buildings in some of the worse areas, expansive sewers, the neon lights, the papers blowing by in the wind, the clubs, the crime, the highlife, the lowlife, the thugs roaming the alleys, the gangs patrolling their turf, the women on the corners, the costumed freaks out and about, the constant sounds of the police sirens, explosions going off in one area of the city, and gun shots ringing from the other. Gotham is just the definitive comic book city imo, and no matter how much better they could've done, it still wouldn't have compared to the almost hypnotic draw of Gotham's aesthetic.
In general Unreal Engine 3 graphics have aged like fine wine imo, unless they use that atrocious brown or grey filter of course.
Hate to see her go, but I love to watch her leave. 3:03
@WatersMediaHomies
5 ай бұрын
I think you said that backwards?
show the settings on the suicide squad people are thinking youre putting batman on ultra and suicide squad on low prove them how bad it actually is
@jesterofcards9023
5 ай бұрын
He is showing you the console version and pc he mentioned this in his previous video
@centuryt3043
5 ай бұрын
@@jesterofcards9023 oh i guess nobody reads the video descriptions
@georgen5882
5 ай бұрын
It’s not in the video description. Either way it’s not a fair comparison. Something is off.
@centuryt3043
5 ай бұрын
@@georgen5882 well hes saying both are on xbx 4k and have no performance or quality mode in that setting sounds fair to me the game is just a cash grab that they made in a year or two with gluing prerecorded voicelines with new animations nothing feels fluid
2011 water: dynamic waves softly rolling up to the waterfront 2024 water: wobbly pudding that doesn't go anywhere
Their entire budget for suicide squad went into their teaser trailer back in 2020
If Arkham City can beat Suicide Squad visually, I wonder what Akrham Knight can do.
@israelmxc
5 ай бұрын
that is the video they posted prior to this one
@czaczaczar
5 ай бұрын
The last video before this is Arkham City vs this game.
@Kiira982
5 ай бұрын
Got it.