The dual-GPU cards, with two PCBs one on another, were something funny too

@cfb36

Жыл бұрын

What was one called? GeForce 7950GX2? Was that thing any good?

@lbochtler

Жыл бұрын

@@cfb36 here are two more, the 9800GX2 (decent card) and the GTX295

@TheOzzyOzan

Жыл бұрын

@@cfb36 gtx 690

@BassRacerx

Жыл бұрын

@@lbochtler Also the GTX 690 wich at the time was actually very good. and not that expensive compared buying two separate 680s.

@RowanBird779

Жыл бұрын

GTX 690?

I recall when the R9 295X2 was one of the most powerful cards on the market. Two GPUs on one PCB and with a built-in water cooler

@jakobmax3299

Жыл бұрын

Wacky times. Kindoff sad, but im also happy that Gpus are so heavily standardised now.

@MrTurbo_

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it also kinda sucked because you had to use crossfire which wasn't supported too well and it used 700 watts of power just on it's own

@DragoNate

Жыл бұрын

@@MrTurbo_ 700?! dang... and here we are looking at today's which use less than that thinking it's highly excessive lol

@Hunter-nb5bj

Жыл бұрын

I bought two of the R9 295x2 cards during early Covid for 200 bucks to mess around with and could barely power them with a 1500 watt power supply. OCing would usually trip the overcurrent protection lmao

@haj_endot

Жыл бұрын

The 295x2 was utterly stupid and pointless and wasteful, but I am glad such a ridiculous feat of engineering was made.

I once found an Nvidia GT 630 in a parts bin back in 2012, the same year it came out. Was allowed to just take it, and the danmed thing still lives in a cupboard somewhere, somehow still functional. Back then the lack of graphical horsepower was rather traumatic. But its long since found its use as a backup glorified hdmi / dvi / vga output for various troubleshooting/debugging issues over the years.

@SuperGon6

Жыл бұрын

Have a GT 730 like that. Came with a prebuilt system the rest of was actually good except for it. Always found it strange.

@ZaHandle

Жыл бұрын

That’s actually it’s intended use case

@Cambone13

Жыл бұрын

I have a 630 that still runs all day every in my Plex server. Spent a decade before in a crappy Lenovo workstation and just won't die

@MichaelCoombes776

Жыл бұрын

I too have a 630, works fine for me as I don't need GPU power.

@DanTDMJace

Жыл бұрын

My XPS 8700 has a GT 630 and has not shown any problems. I didn't even know it has a bad reputation and I use it every day.

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@symohto

Жыл бұрын

hhhhh

@dennis_s

Жыл бұрын

*SecretLab!*

@kiyu3229

Жыл бұрын

@@infernaldaedra tf?

@ginger_wby

Жыл бұрын

@@infernaldaedra ooookay 👀

@God-qj7jl

Жыл бұрын

Cum

I think I regretted buying the Matrox Millennium 2 at the time. It was not cheap, did not support most 3D stuff, and I was hoping that 2D games would run really well on it. They did not.

@HlDensity

Жыл бұрын

I also regret the Matrox Millennium II. I think I got it for CAD reasons, but was not a great gaming card. If I recall it only supported Direct3D while 3DFX and OpenGL was killing it on the gaming front.

@alphacompton

Жыл бұрын

Old memories are being flooded into me from CompUSA days. Was the Matrox the one that had a "warning" label promoting how other cards might only be good at 3d games but that their card was good at both 2D and 3D games?

@qbgabe12

Жыл бұрын

Millennium 1 was great... 2 and Mystique... not

@shaunhall960

Жыл бұрын

Same.

@damightyshabba439

Жыл бұрын

Yep I had one of those. I had to buy it because I made the mistake of buying a Compaq Deskpro (NLX Form Factor) and basically at the time it was the only card that would fit. It could run Homeworld... just. I supported it with a Voodoo II (? I think) 8MB sister card eventually. When I built my first PC by hand it was like the gods had sung in my direction! Suddenly I was in a land of AMD CPU goodness with "proper" graphics - I know it was an ATI GFX card, but can't remember which one. a Radeon of some sort I think. But for the time it was powerful. The jump from my Compaq to my home build was massive. The Matrox Mill 2 was just a little underpowered for the day. Only 4MB ram, 8 with an upgrade. The Voodoo sister card added "proper" 3d abilities (lets face it - Quake). My timeline is messed up 'cos I'm getting games and tech out of sequence... it was a long time ago!!!!

Fury X was actually an awesome card, it had strengths even against the 980ti and was either super close in performance or beat it in some games. In addition we got the fury nano which was the absolute king of ITX builds. The fury X is pretty much silent even at full load which is pretty incredible.

@OGPatriot03

Жыл бұрын

I know, I freaking LOVE the FuryX. We'd be lucky to see GPUs like it again, they were high end GPUs in a slim package that were just silent at all times.

@sergeantsarge7081

Жыл бұрын

It was badass in every way... except the VRAM capacity.

@josephdias5859

Жыл бұрын

@@sergeantsarge7081 made up for it in speed for sure but a couple more gbs of vram it would have been a 1070ti killer

@tbag6600

Жыл бұрын

this guy is the only LTG "Host" that i cannot stand. hes always letting his opinion get in the way of facts (Not to mention his jokes suck). the Fury X was a great card.

@superstar5123

Жыл бұрын

What other manufacturer/card comes with water cooling? Underrated card

I had a Sapphire Fury for a while and yeah, that HBM did NOT like ANY sort of tweaking to the clock speeds. I remember adjusting it even ONE mhz would cause the system to freeze.

@blunderingfool

Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile, my Vega56 OCs the HBM2 memory from 800 to 1000mhz flawlessly. Cha-ching!

@StaelTek

Жыл бұрын

@@blunderingfool i wished my Vega 56 could do that 😩

@Haksdo2

Жыл бұрын

Then you didnt read up on it back then. I had both a Fury and Fury X and although the overclocking was very limited, you could overclock the HBM. However, it could only be done in fixed increments (55mhz or somethinf weird) and if your card couldn't handle that next jump, you couldn't OC it. I was lucky enough that both my Fury and Fury X would allow 1 or 2 steps of memory OCing.

@pedrosoares7273

Жыл бұрын

@@blunderingfool Vega 56 with 64 bios is just plain amazing. Not particularly efficient however, but damn good for the price

@ryanjones48

Жыл бұрын

I rocked a R9 fury until I scored a 3060 last year

I had a Voodoo 5 5500, so the Voodoo 4 4500 wasn't the top card from 3DFX, and the 5500 was a pretty solid card for the time, it performed really well and games that supported glide looked and played better than the same game running on something like a TNT Riva 2 with OpenGL, and it was the first GPU that I'm aware of that had 2 GPU dies on a single board, stuff that Nvidia repeated with later cards like the 295

@smokeduv

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I knew there was a Voodoo 5, soI was a bit surprised they mentioned the 4 as the last one. The voodoo was a beast but it was overkill for the time with those dual gpus. I had a Riva TNT 2 and while it was good, it couldn't match those, but hey, it was cheaper

@classic_jam

Жыл бұрын

@@smokeduv The 4 technically released at the same time the voodoo 5, so it's the just as new but definitely not their best card. I have a Voodoo 5, it's a cool card.

@salmon85

Жыл бұрын

I miss my 5500

@SullenSecret

Жыл бұрын

I remember Voodoo drivers offering *tons* of settings that could be adjusted. I was mind-blown trying to customize its performance.

@ocudagledam

Жыл бұрын

Voodoo 5 5500 was released in 2000, but ATI had their Fury MAXX dual GPU card in 1999, so the 3dfx card was not the first in that regard. Voodoo 4 4500 was in fact the last card from 3dfx as it was released a few months after the Voodoo 5 5500. Also, both used the same chips, the VSA-100, only the 5500 had two of them. Finally, the fact that a 5500 would beat a TNT2 (and even the first gen GeForce) did not help it much when it released right after GeForce 2 and ATI's first Radeon, both of which were faster and more advanced (they were DX7 cards with hardware Transform and Lighting, while the Voodoo was DX6). In other words, too little too late and I don't even think that it was cheaper than its competitors.

I know it was trash, but I loved my Voodoo5 5500. It was the first GPU I owned that needed an extra power connector (you had to plug a molex into it) and it was actually two GPUs tied together.

@classic_jam

Жыл бұрын

It may not have been the fastest card, but it did look cool and had great support up until around 2002-3 which was relatively decent for the time. Would've been better off with a GeForce 2 though for sure.

@Keullo-eFIN

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the V4 4500 is practically just a single-chip version of it.

@jamescavanaugh8211

Жыл бұрын

@@classic_jam Oh yeah, I would have gotten way more life out of a GeForce 2. I think the card I ended up replacing the V5 with was a Ti 4600.

@waize

Жыл бұрын

Still has one and it still works

@kyles8524

Жыл бұрын

yeah I still have 2 of them yeah but it was SLI on the card

I remember thinking at the time that I would have bought the Titan Z if I won the lottery to use in an ITX system. If I were building a full size system, then like you said I would have bought dual Titan Blacks.

@arnox4554

Жыл бұрын

Remember when Titan's allowed you to choose whether you wanted good FP32 or FP64 performance up to the Titan Black? And then Nvidia was just like, "lol Not anymore. :)"

As someone who has began collecting GPU's old and new this video was cool as heck good stuff

I still have my 4500 agp. I mowed so many lawns for that card. I'm being buried with it!

I am still daily driving my MSI GTX 1080 for 6 years now, I think this thing was way more than a solid purchase. Even though it's not top of the line anymore, it can run many games in 4K. Not the newest or most demanding ones, but to me it's mainly about productivity anyway.

@lbochtler

Жыл бұрын

And here i am gaming on a quadro k5000 and tesla k80 (though the tesla only helps in phys-x games) (And no im not a dumbass that bought a workstation card thinking its better tgen a gaming card due to its price. I use them for scientific computation, 3d modeling and cad, gaming is just something they get to do once in a while.)

@Hybris51129

Жыл бұрын

Same here and you know what is the real kicker? At the time people where saying that the 1080 was like the 4090 is now: Too hot, too expensive, and way too much card to justify. Yet years down the road that investment has paid off in spades because you bought a great part and now its aged gracefully to a good or ok level part. Those nay sayers bought "just enough" or only ok level parts that now have little useful life in newer titles without dramatic compromises.

@arnox4554

Жыл бұрын

@@lbochtler Isn't the K6000 the last Quadro card with Windows XP support, and also (mostly) the last Quadro card to have not-shit FP64 performance?

@arnox4554

Жыл бұрын

@@Hybris51129 Too hot? I got a Titan Xp which is basically just a 1080 Ti Special Edition, and it runs amazingly even in modern Blender workloads. lol

@werewolfmoney6602

Жыл бұрын

My 7yo has my old gtx 1080 in his PC Honestly a bit overkill for a 7 year old, but I wanted to build him a PC for his birthday and I didn't want to sell it and contribute to the environment of people taking advantage of others while the shortage was going full tilt.

The Fury X were some of the coolest cards ever made.

AMD has had a few interesting cards in recent years. There was a Radeon Pro card (clearly not aimed at gamers) that had an NVMe interface on it so users could attach an SSD. On their GPU. I think the idea was that the SSD could be used as pseudo-RAM for productivity tasks that used way more than 10-20 GB of actual RAM. But that interface was clearly a bottleneck, and AMD didn’t make that many of these cards.

@drakethedragon457

Жыл бұрын

Wait... a NVMe SSD on a GPU?!!?

@benjaminlynch9958

Жыл бұрын

@@drakethedragon457yep. Had to Google for the model number. It was the Radeon Pro SSG. They advertised it as the first GPU to break the 1TB memory barrier. LOL.

@speedracer2please

Жыл бұрын

I believe they did a video dedicated to that gpu, it sounds so good! Especially now that vram is at a premium for games

@Disty0

Жыл бұрын

It was the most direct Direct Storage Access feature so far lol.

The ATI All-In-Wonder 128 was my biggest video card purchase regret. At launch they promised eventual driver support for OpenGL. I believe they did finally add it years later but by then there were much better graphic chip options.

@diegogarcia4255

Жыл бұрын

I remember being intrigued by the All-In-Wonder cards cause of their video inputs, but glad I avoided these headaches.

I snagged a GTX-480 really cheap @ Newegg right after the 580 was released.... performance roughly matched my other GPU a GTX-570 but it was a lot louder. When the Kepler cards arrived I traded the 480 in for a GTX-680 using EVGA's "Step-Up" program.

Before I learned about CPU bottlenecks, I bought an HIS 4850 to use with a Athlon 64 3700+ (single core). Helped greatly with the few single-threaded games that I had but did basically nothing for the rest.

@Baulder13

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much all games were single thread back then so you weren't missing much. Core 2 just had insane single thread performance to begin with.

@ASt27

Жыл бұрын

I've had an 4830 paired with an athlon x2 6200+ and 4 gb of ram - that was an amazing budget combination back in the days. A 400 € build that supported me for many years - great times

The 6990 was also a very effective room heater with deafening dB's.

@gmualum08

Жыл бұрын

Could say the same about the Gigabyte Aorus 3080, well minus the decibels but definitely a space heater

I was really sad when my Vega 56 (Sapphire Pulse) died. It had so much oc potential and can run some games in 4K (you'd be surprised how well it scales resolution)

@alexd5197

Жыл бұрын

I am still rocking a vega 64 nitro and it still kicks ass at 1440p

@LucidStrike

Жыл бұрын

I mean, it WAS a 4K card when it was released, so yeah, it can handle older games in 4K. But I was using mine for 1080p by the time I replaced it with the 7900 XTX.

The absolute worst buy of my life was the ATi All-In-Wonder 128. It was basically an ATi Rage 128 from 1999 with 16 MB of VRAM with TV tuner attached. The problem was that my dad purchased this card in 2001 only because of that dumb feature. Graphics cards those days were evolving quite quickly and already in 2003 this GPU had trouble launching a lot of games. And since my family was quite poor I was stuck with this hardware for ages and had to see my classmates playing then-new GTA San-Andreas and NFS Most Wanted, when I had to play older stuff. If only my father have bought GeForce 2 or 3 instead

@chriswheatley3146

Жыл бұрын

I actually had that card when it was new at the time. The Rage 128 was worlds better than the Rage 2 and was actually competitive. The tuner even took a hit from lightning blowing out that portion of the card. Surprisingly the 2d/3d still worked well inside Linux if you didnt install or setup the tuner. I eventually replaced it with a All-in-Wonder Radeon due to the fried tuner for my main Windows machine.

@TheOriginalFaxon

Жыл бұрын

I had this experience with my Riva TNT2. It was a top of the line card for it's time, but was given to me in 2001 for my first PC, by which time it was starting to be obsolescent. It ran games just fine up until Homeworld 2 launched, and I didn't have support for DX8 or 9, which was a limiting factor for me at the time (i forget which one it was). I ended up getting the Radeon 9250 SE not knowing it was basically an entry level display output not worth half a damn, and while it WAS faster than that TNT2, it ended up being unable to run Oblivion at launch just a year or two later. I was lucky my step-dad had bought a 9800 PRO All in Wonder that he was no longer using, because I was able to adopt it as my own for a massive performance upgrade, and my first proper experience with a "high end" card, even though it had already been replaced with the X800 and X850 by then. I still regret getting that 9250 to this day, it was my shortest lived GPU EVER, with even my 9 month old 5700xt outliving it before being replaced with a 2080ti and sold during the GPU shortage to someone building a new rig to survive the pandemic with. I think it only lasted me 6 months before being unable to run a new game on it and getting swapped for that 9800, which it's important to note WE ALREADY HAD, and my step-dad had just left it sitting out near his desk. I didn't see it until after we had wasted $90 on that shitty low end GPU, and asked him if I could have it since mine was garbage. He knew we were going to go get one and literally could have solved it ahead of time lol. I miss those days now, you could wait a year while saving up lunch money change for a parts upgrade, and get double to triple the performance sometimes just by being patient and sticking with the hardware and games you were running decently together at the time. It's not like I couldn't play starcraft just fine on a potato by that point in a pinch xD. Still, even having money sometimes my family would be dumb about stuff and make me wait because I was a kid, while we had hardware sitting around idle gathering dust. Now my step-dad is better about it, he asks me the second he decommissions anything if I want any of it before it gets sent to a refurbisher/recycler to be salvaged and probably resold for cheap to those who can't afford new hardware.

I bought a second HD 7950 for crossfire use back in the day. I quickly discovered that few games actually benefitted from it (with many games actually becoming unstable while trying to use it)- and having two gpus turned my PC into an oven, and a rocket engine, at the same time.

@sHoRtBuSseR

Жыл бұрын

I had a pair of hd7970s, and for a short while, tri-fire 7970s. The only game that worked well was battlefield 3 and 4. Which, at the time, was all I played. The hd7000 series was a fantastic value for a lot of years though. I really liked my 7970, I still have it somewhere.

You should do a history of Markham Ontario's ATI. My first "real" graphics card was a Radeon (although I'm old enough to have used a CGA video card). Interesting Canadian tech history.

@zushikatetomotoshift1575

Жыл бұрын

Other youtubers already did that.

The FuryX was awesome for small form factor builds, I put together two of them in a compact MATX case and it was overkill for even VR back in the day

I have buyers regret occasionally. Spent 900 on a 3070 Ti last winter. It was the replacement to a GT 1030.

@jakobmax3299

Жыл бұрын

The 3070ti is still a great card. Just be happy you have such a great pc.

@drakethedragon457

Жыл бұрын

Really? i have the RTX 3060 Ti and this card is really good!

@trr4gfreddrtgf

Жыл бұрын

Same here. I spent $800 AUD on an RTX 2060, it was overpriced, but I'm still glad I have it.

The 690 and Titan Z have to be my favorite lookin cards. After running titans and titan blacks in sli, there wasnt any issues with it during their life span and into the 9xx series. Plenty of games worked great with it. Though I'm not some indie game player.

@arnox4554

Жыл бұрын

Remember when Titan's allowed you to choose whether you wanted good FP32 or FP64 performance up to the Titan Black? And then Nvidia was just like, "lol Not anymore. :)"

I have an old prototype voodoo 5500 from when my dad used to work at 3DFX. Those new features were worth it. It had hardware accelerated temporal anti-aliasing and the "T buffer" that allowed for hardware accelerated motion blur and all sorts of post-processing effects with little to no performance overhead compared to competitors. And then Nvidia got their company and then those things started showing up on Nvidia and AMD cards.

@peterhall8051

Жыл бұрын

Yeah a friend of mine got his hands on one of those prototypes as well for a mac, I remember it had 2 cpus

Radeon Vii gets a lot of hell but I’m glad I have one in my collection i think it will be pretty rare in the coming years because of its short shelf life. And I really liked the way the card looked but when the 5700xt came out with the same performance and at a much cheaper price it was the death of the vii. But the vii is different and a bit quirky and thats why I like it. I don’t regret buying it, it was about as fast as they said it would be (2080) or maybe just a little slower. Even have a reference 5700xt while it was a loud card it could be tuned and undervolted to fix it. Rocking a 4090 gaming oc and ftw3 3080ti in my main rigs today and gonna pick up a sapphire nitro xtx early next year.

The one I regret most is probably the Diamond Stealth III S540 I got in high school, which used the S3 Savage4 Pro+ chipset. Performance was okay-ish in most games, and the S3 Texture Compression (which was later implemented by DirectX and OpenGL on all cards) was pretty nifty in the few games that supported S3's MeTaL renderer, but in hindsight I feel like I should've asked for an Nvidia TNT2 card of some sort instead.

@MrGencyExit64

Жыл бұрын

I had S3's first 3D card (the VIRGE). I don't recommend anything S3 makes :)

@executor32

Жыл бұрын

@@MrGencyExit64 That's actually what the Stealth III S540 was replacing, a ViRGE GX of some variety. Given my poor experience with the ViRGE, I don't know why the hell I wanted another S3 card. 🤣🤣

The Fury X was more of a test bed for AMD and an experiment with HBM. I was lackluster but was a major stepping stone for them coming off the 500 series. Hell, I still use a 590 myself. Nothing I play needs more graphics power right now.

@letsgoiowa

Жыл бұрын

Polaris came AFTER Fiji. In other words, the Fury X was the 300 series. The 400 and 500 series came after.

@dark666king

Жыл бұрын

How was it a stepping stone if they literally decided to ditch the HBM and never use it again in consumer segment products?

@pjabella

Жыл бұрын

@@dark666king stepping stone can also be a learning experience for them

@Hotrob_J

Жыл бұрын

@@dark666king they used it again in the Vega cards and Radeon VII. This was at a time when GDDR5 was very long in the tooth, and VERY power hungry. nVidia had sophisticated memory compression techniques AMD didn't, so they had to use brute force to feed their GPUs (290/390 had a massive 512 bit memory bus which I don't think has been seen again). They hit a memory bottleneck, so HBM was their only way to get more bandwidth in, and they hoped having more cache and WAY higher bandwidth would make up for the lack of VRAM. It kind of did. With newer memory, and their own newer memory compression algorithms, they don't need that super high, raw bandwidth to feed their consumer cards anymore. It wasn't so much a failure, as other technologies more cost effective came along. They still use HBM on some enterprise/compute cards, but games just don't need the bandwidth HBM offered.

@roboman2444

Жыл бұрын

@@dark666king Vega 56 and 64, Radeon VII all used HBM

When I was in engineering school, I ended up getting a Voodoo5 5500 PCI card for my FreeBSD workstation - only had PCI slots at the time. That card was amazing for the things I was throwing at it. The only difference between the PCI and AGP version was the inclusion of the PCI-to-AGP bridge chipset on the AGP card.

@FixedFunction

Жыл бұрын

And that PCI variant is now the most expensive one because of the system compatibility it has. People who want those cards to relive that era of GLide gaming don't want to get the AGP version that's stuck using a handful of AGP 3.3v motherboards, when the PCI version is ~90% of the performance in D3D/OGL (and has no penalty in GLide) and works on any board with standard PCI. Those cards also have the quirk of using PCI signaling internally and using AGP's PCI fallback mode at 66MHz to get it working as AGP. The PCI Voodoos have no translator bridge, but they do have the usual PCI bus transaction chips.

This is great. How did yall do research for this? And who did it?

The card I regret buying the most: I regret buying the 4090 for scalper prices (2700$). I bought it because we used gpu acceleration at work and I was often working on home and preferred my home rig which was faster. The 3080 was plenty fast enough for the stuff we did, but I was running against the limitations of its 10gb vram. 3 weeks after I bought it, I got fired. I have a new job now but no use for the 4090 other than gaming, for which I don't have time because well, new job. It's a great card otherwise...

@MenkoDany

Жыл бұрын

For those wondering, we ran small NN models for a bunch of internal tasks + some client apps. Most models were rather small and the biggest model we worked with was 1GB in size and using 8gb while running (but utilising almost 96GB when training on the in-house rig). A few days before I got fired we launched a new upgraded model that used 12-13Gb while running so for a short while, the purchase was worth it

@CreativityNull

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow, that's such bad luck. At least you picked up a new job pretty quick. Hopefully you were able to make up some money by selling the 3080. Either way, sorry to hear about the shitty situation

@MenkoDany

Жыл бұрын

@@CreativityNull Oh yeah I was so happy I got to sell the 3080 for the price I did. I don't remember the exact numbers but I sold it for roughly 50$ more than the price I've seen it go around that time. Homey who came over to check it and buy it even gave me a little more extra cash. But my 3080 had a backplate thermal pad mod which was worth way more than the 50$ and had an above average silicon and memory dies - when oc'd it was within 1% of the avg stock 3090 in synthetic benchmarks, but I didn't even run it OC'd because I preferred how quiet it was. Also literally no one whom I talked to at the time, except the final buyer, believed that I never mined on it lol. People think it's a given unfortunately, even though I wrote in the ad text that I don't sell to miners, for obvious reasons

@MenkoDany

Жыл бұрын

@Transistor Jump Europe, and technically it was 2360$ back then

@polymerizedrecords

Жыл бұрын

So sorry to hear that man. Glad that you're OK and I hope you'll put your GPU to good use! Maybe some VR someday?

I remember buying a GeForce 4600TI in mid-2002. The GPU was excellent and gave me about 3 years without performance problems. But I never forget the fact that a week later the Radeon 970 PRO came out with superior performance and at least here in Brazil, with a very close price. A strategic mistake for sure.

@CaptainVKanth

Жыл бұрын

Wasn't the 9700 pro plagued with texture issues and buggy colour pallets?

@marcoskatsuragi

Жыл бұрын

@@CaptainVKanth Seriously? In fact, the 9700 brought some innovations that later became standard in GPUs. I had a 9600 when the 4600 had a cooler problem and damaged the GPU, and the only problem was the ATI driver at the time, which was very unstable (catalyst if I remember the name). But at that time the problems with GPUs were diverse, such as not correctly recognizing the AGP speed (here a great advantage of the 9700, which was 8x and the 4600, only 4x), fluctuating voltage, memory recognition, faulty drivers in Windows XP and many others. Wild times huahuaah.

@CaptainVKanth

Жыл бұрын

@@marcoskatsuragi Yeah, my friend had one back in the day saying it's much better than the GeForce 4. But he mentioned texture bugs when playing Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2. He had to wait for a driver update to fix it. I think some AIB manufacturers also has to release bios updates as well.

Allow Riley to keep making these vids funnier, this is gold lol The my ex joke and the awkward silence at the end made me lmfao

Actually there wasn't a GPU I bought and regretted as I make my plans rather well thought-through. I got the GTX 460 in the end of 2010. While it didn't age that well it was working fine for me until I upgraded it with a GTX 1070 in 2016 - and it's still working! The 1070 aged much better and it's still my main GPU this day. While the 460 struggled six years after I bought it (like the GT 1030 D5 is actually stronger than it) the 1070 is still very capable and only slightly beaten by the 3050 as long as I can live without RTX and DLSS (thanks AMD for keeping my 1070 competitive with FSR!). I'm still waiting for a reasonable replacement that will serve me well for another 5+ years. Guess the problem is while the performance per generation is increasing nicely it takes much longer than the former "new generation every year" to get a new generation now so the overall development speed slowed down.

There used to be a guy from Poland, that grilled some ham and cheese on the GTX 480. The video was called "gotuj z GeForce" if I remember correctly. Edit: Here's the video kzread.info/dash/bejne/q2aDrdF-ecWtopc.html

@blunderingfool

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You legend!

My regret was the GTX 960. I had a GTX 750 Ti 2GB and decided to use my savings to buy the 960 4GB because I was starting with Blender at the time... The card was expensive and the performance difference in Blender was minimal. I was so pissed that I sold it at a lost and got an Radeon R9 380 4GB. In spite of all we can say about AMD cards, that card worked so well and my system never crashed or got a BSOD. I kept the card for 5 years until the "new minimum VRAM" became 6GB, the card started to have trouble keeping up with the new games.

@arnox4554

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If you still have the 750 Ti, keep it. It will run on any OS (XP and up) in any system configuration as long as it has a PCI Express slot of some kind. It can also natively drive CRTs.

i loved my 480. It kept the heating bills low, and it could almost play A Hat in Time! ....I used it until 2020, when premiere stopped supporting the card. Funny since I got it when adobe was liquidating their stock of the card from their workstations.

@4:17 you gotta love the extra grilling feature "comes included with every card" for free!

Speaking of strange cards that make you go: "What the..." The original 3DFX cards were something very strange that would be utterly unthinkable nowadays. They weren't full GPUs. They were add-ons for existing systems. 3D graphics were expensive, very expensive in fact. So they produced these cut down GPUs that were barely capable of running this reduced version of OpenGL they called Glide. The 3DFX cards only provided this new 3D hardware, so they were designed to leverage the capabilities of the VGA cards that most systems already had present. They came with a little pass-through cable that allowed you to plug your old 2D card into your new 3D card, which you would then plug into your screen. The whole idea would make zero sense for modern PCs, but back in 1996 it was a great way to get an existing system running Quake in a smooth fashion. And running Quake smoothly at a resolution that wasn't 640x480 was essentially that era's version of running Crysis.

@f36443

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I remember getting my first Voodoo card. Orchid Righteous 3D. That and Tomb Raider and I was completely blown away!

@BigFatCone

Жыл бұрын

Who cares about resolution? The quality in graphic fidelity compared to software render blew me away.

@mirage809

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@@BigFatCone Oh you are certainly correct there. GL Quake made the software renderer look like a half baked prototype. The early days of 3D acceleration were a lot fun. Stuff evolved so quickly.

@BigFatCone

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@@mirage809 It's been crazy being along for the ride since the 80's. I don't think I got my Voodoo 1 until Quake 2 was a thing but the point still stands.

980 Ti, pretty powerfull card at the time, but with oc and ov the pcb got a little bit black in the vrm area. The waterblock and a fan on the back didn't help with that 😅

@alphacompton

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I remember going out and buying a 980 (upgrading from a 660 Ti) because I had just bought Arkham Knight and wanted to play it at the best settings with the "PhsyX" stuff enabled. I don't regret it for a minute. Arkham Knight looked amazing with long overdue use of the Batmobile.

@arnox4554

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The Titan X (which is just a 980 Ti with 6 more GB of VRAM) is probably the most "definitive" legacy Nvidia card available in my arrogant opinion. Needs external power, but beyond that, can work in any OS from Windows XP up and can also drive any monitor including CRTs. And even today, the card is surprisingly powerful.

Make a bad graphics cards part 2! Keep it going!

I briefly owned an NVIDIA 7950GX2 - the two-GPU sandwich card. I actually wanted to get an X1950XTX for the combined HDRi + AA goodness, but it was out of stock everywhere. No regrets about the 7950GX2 though - I managed to sell it off a few months before 8800GTX got released and get that one with minimal additional investment.

I had a 480, thing was still beastly and was able to play GTA V just fine. As for other video cards that sucked ass, I nominate the GeForce 295. A card that was literally 2 cards sandwiched together, sucked in dust like no one's business and the marketed ram was cut in half due to the 2 cards.

I direct-ordered the very first GPU (Orchid Voodoo 1) back in 96. From 96-2000 3DFX really ruled the market. It was truly a revolutionary product. Prior to 3DFX, you pretty much had to constantly upgrade your CPU/mb on a yearly basis to get decent fps from your software rendering. I still have that Voodoo 1 btw in a classic gaming rig, running Win98 lol. Fun to compare it to my 4090 to see how far we’ve come.

My GTX 1080TI with AOI water cooler. The radiator fan was always real noisy and a few months ago the pump died, I was hitting ~105C when I realized there was a problem. Now I need to find a new heatsink somewhere.

The card I think I regret most buying, would probably be when I bought the GeForce 4 Ti. That thing costed an absolute crapload of money at the time, and when I got home with my shiny new graphics card, I discovered my PC (which was a Dell Dimension 2400) did not in fact have an AGP slot! And by the time I got a new computer, PCIe was already mainstream. And I was pretty much forced to sell it second hand later down the line for chump change. (the store I bought it from did not take opened boxes as returns. Once it was open, it was yours).

I was debating between getting two GTX 970s in SLI or a single 980 for my PC at the time, I looked at stuff and found the dual 970 to perform better, all be it at a higher total price too. Two weeks after buying them, the 980ti came out, it cost the same, and since it didn't rely on SLI it would have been by far the better purchase, I still regret trying to build an SLI system, it was my first one, and it would be my last one, I am kinda happy that trend has gone the way of the dodo, so no one else will waste their money like I did back then. 970 is still a good card, but since for 95% of the time I had paid the functional price of a 980ti, but was getting 970 performance, it was a really really bad purchase.

@YashPatel97335

Жыл бұрын

Lol I am still using single gtx 970 to play all games. Not a single game I played was a problem for me. And seeing this new gpu prices, I think I’ll never be able to buy “next gen gpu” at their launch dates anymore. But still it was fun journey.

@OGPatriot03

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I had my bout with Crossfire and even multi-brand mGPU. There were probably only ever actually 3 games that ever did exist with flawless Crossfire/SLI scaling and they were running the Mantle API which I don't think Nvidia supported. The absolute king of the crop was BF4 running mantle where 2 FuryXs scaled better than 100% and the main thing is that it was a perfectly buttery smooth experience with absolutely ZERO stuttering even on an old 3rd gen i7, - If games could've continued to scale like that then I'd be wanting liquid cooled (Vega 64LC anyone?) GPUs in crossfire in my rig to this day. It was actually pretty amazing for gaming/productivity if all you played was BF4 (that was me) and then when it was time to rendering something in Blender you had a load of powerful GPUs at your disposal (Back then AMD actually rendered faster than nvidia in Blender, a trend that's no longer the case). To this day BF4 has offered the smoothest stutter free experience I have ever seen and that was running 2 liquid cooled FuryXs that ran silently. So the promise land of crossfire did exist, it's just that shortly after Mantle was abandoned and DX12 never lived up to it's mGPU promises.

@jacksonbtb571

Жыл бұрын

I wish multiple gpu scaling was a thing still. I know it's stupid in terms of power and price, but it looks so damn cool

@QueenSaffryn

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@@YashPatel97335 I would still be using one of my 970s if they didn't start giving me weird graphical glitches, I suspect it was due to overheating from dried up thermal paste, but I never did verify it. Got a 3070 just before the scalpathon of 2020/2021/2022 took place

@YashPatel97335

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@@QueenSaffryn cool. The point is that 970 and 980 are still very good cards if you want to hold out on buying new cards. And you can always get one generation behind cards at very reasonable price just like you got 3070.

None, in 2015 I built my current system sporting a GTX970, great card for the money at the time. I upgraded that same system to a GTX 1070 FTW, also a great card, which was only replaced by an RTX 3070 FTW this year. Now I'm a bit bottle-necked by my aging i7, but I intend to move this GPU to an i9 system early next year. The only time I've been disappointed by performance was on a prebuilt back when I was in high-school, lesson earned, every system since then I have built from scratch after much research. Although I do remember having to upgrade from 2mb of ram to 4mb of ram ($800 at the time) on my first computer, a Mac, so that I could run Marathon at a frame-rate above a slideshow presentation, oh how times have changed.

Biggest Regret was trying SLI with 2 GTX 680's. The micro stuttering was horrible, the noise was horrible and performance increase 100% did not justify the downsides, I never touched SLI again and now only buy the highest single GPU card I can afford.

@HlDensity

Жыл бұрын

I can echo these statements. Bought 2 GTX670's and water blocked them and OC the snot out of them. It seemed pretty slick at the time but the micro stuttering and SLI compatibility bugs ruined years of gaming for me.

Those AMD GPUS with built in water coolers and the later AMD FX series. They required so much power and generated so much heat sure were something.

Well I was on budget so picked the integred RTX 620 hd Works awesome 😁

There was also the voodoo 5 series you're the voodoo 5500 voodoo 5 6000 The 6000 had 4 voodoo chips on it. Then there was the leaked voodoo rage graphics card that they were working on before they were bought by nvidia It would have been a direct X 8.1 card in hardware with apparently some early interact X9 functionality if I remember right

3:40 - the VOODOO 5 5500 was the final card, NOT the VooDoo 4 4500. I should know because I purchased said card and still have it as a showcase.

I think I’ve done well so far. 750ti back in 2015 that got the job done with no fuss, later upgraded to a 960GTX that soldiered on way longer than I expected. It’s currently on hiatus until I build my wife’s PC (she doesn’t game like I do so doesn’t need anything too heavy in the GPU dept.). Currently running a 3070ti FE, which I knew was a bit of a red headed step child in reviews but it’s the best I could afford at the time. I’m still on 1080p anyway so it’s easily coping.

5:32 I was expecting some Police Squad shenanigans at the end. Missed opportunity!

loved playing turok on my Voodoo1 but hated the blurring of the textures in quake, so generally played that native on the 486 dx2-66. worst card was the 7870 that I bought with my fx8150, went and got a second one to make it fast enough to game on but crossfire was not supported :'/

I've never regretted a GPU Purchase, only which Reference/AIB Model & Cooler it came with

Man now I feel old. My first gaming rig had a dual gpu 3dfx. Pops bought it as the company was going under. It gave me a few good years. I was able to play this nascar game and flight sim. I got his pentium 3 and the 3dfx card rig because he bought just before the pentium 4 came out.

1:42 I remember hearing "Nvidia is gonna get shit on when the new R9 comes out. BET!" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

what a time to be alive, the channel is still named tesla

if I remember right it was 2 Nivida 780tgx with and Nforce 4 board and Sound Blaster something sound card. Could never get the cards to run right in SLI due to some bug in the chipset. Ended up replacing them both with a 8800 gtx.

"To top it off, performance was... Underwhelming." *video pauses for buffering*

Zotac 560 TI if i remember the card correctly. it was one that had the mesh like casing on it. I think it ran hot because of a lack of proper airflow over the card itself.

I remember when they were telling GTX 480 owners to let their cards cool for a few minutes after shutting down their PC before touching the card because it ran so hot.

I recall playing games on my GTX 480. I could hear the fans through the headphones, and my mic easily picked it up and almost drowned my voice out under load; good times. I remember how I tried to run VR on it and calculated I might be able to on a 480 SLI setup with the NVIDIA VRWorks... a shame it was discontinued. might have gotten 10-20 fps on VR... Not good for playing, but to say I could run VR on such old hardware and above 5 fps would be a cool thing to say IMO.

rx 6600 mech to replace my old 1060 which was very silent... thought it wouldn't be loud. It is adjustable in fan curve editor, but minimum is at 21%, which is still pretty audible and then it's even capped at 100W which makes it slower than other 6600 cards out there if you don't undervolt the crap out of it, which doesn't really work that well because it's a budget card and the silicone doesn't really leave much headroom. If you don't bother with fan tuning, you either have zero noise or a jet engine once it goes above 45.

My biggest graphics card mistake wasn't a card itself, but the connector. I was upgrading and decided to stick with AGP for the new motherboard, instead of that new upstart PCIe standard which probably wouldn't go anywhere...

i tried to get a used 1050ti for my system but two of them that I bought didn't work in my system. they worked in other systems, just not in mine. So I settled for a cheaper and also less powerful RX 560 that then finally worked and I had the time of my life with it. It was a 4GB OC variant and delivered good performance. That GPU generally made me switch to Team Red.

Asus 4850. The first one died but fortunately within warranty, except the replacement which was a revision had a TERRIBLE HSF that was so loud I had to manually adjust the card, I was actually glad that the card developed a fault so I could return it.

I don't regret almost buying a used 480 back when the 600-series were still expensive toys. Eventually ended up getting a 680 for slightly more that I could have gotten that 480 for a little over a year later - that beefy ass triple slot one from Asus. God I loved that thing; having been on a budget for so long, finally attaining a top of the line card - despite the 700-series already having been released at that point - still felt great

Honestly I’ve only bought 4 gpus for my pcs so far and I’ve not regretted 1 cause I put hours and hours of research before buying anything and the cards I’ve gotten so far are 1. A gt710 I got for like 5$ and then I got a gtx 1050ti ssc for 150$ (it was a good price 5 years ago when I got it) Then 2060super and now I’m on a 3080 I got for about 650$.

I own a Vega 64, a single-gpu 300w card before they were cool. The thing would spew hot air and thermal throttle with the reference blower cooler, I slapped a raijintek morpheus ii (aftermarket GPU cooler) on it, and now the thermal performance is great (can't even hit 60C at full load), but it weighs a KG and takes up 4 slots.

@OGPatriot03

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I bought Vega 64 LC at launch, it remains a beautiful card although I did upgrade to the 2080 ti. I'd sell the 2080 ti but that Vega 64LC will be a wall hanger for damn sure. I love that thing.

The R9 Fury dropped to $400 over night and was a great card at that price.

I remember I bought an Riva TNT 2 but my motherboard was not compatible and I was way too young/dumb to check beforehand or do a BIOS update, had somthing to do with the southbridge chip or something like that... did buy a new motherboard (same RAM, same CPU, just new board).

I remember having two voodoo 2s (and a voodoo 1 before that) in the late 90s specifically for quake 1 and 2 (later using it for half life), now that I know more about computers today, I'd probably say that those are the worst purchases I had considering what I got for it and what I used it for. A lot of random crashing, looked amazing for 96 and 98 though.

Powercolor Devil 13 Specifically the dual 290 version Was basically a worse, air-cooled version of the 295x2 (which used 2 290x instead of the devil 13's 2 290)

Wow, the Voodoo4. I remember a really funny and scathing review of that card on Sharky Extreme back in the day. Good times.

There was a card from Sapphire way back in the 00's (I can't remember the specific model. I'll edit this post if I find it.) It was supposed to be a competitive "budget" card. Not only did it suck wind, but there was a "knob" on the card's fan that stuck out nearly a third of the width of the card itself. This meant that you could not put any card in the adjoining slot at all. It was the worst physical design flaw I had ever seen. Thankfully, I believe I was operating on a 240 from Nvidia at the time, so I wasn't even tempted. Nothing stellar about the 240, but it was decent for the time.

When I first got into PCs I went through several low end cards. I started with a GTX 750 Ti. I wasn't happy with the performance so I bought a GTX 1050 Ti about two months later when it first released. Turns out I wasn't happy with that one either and I ended up buying a used EVGA 1060 6GB card off of eBay about five months later. I stuck with that GPU for about two years then upgraded to a standard GTX 1660. I had that card for about a year and ended up buying an RX 5700 XT. I really liked that GPU and kept it until about November of 2020. I had to get rid of my gaming rig, because I moved over to Japan for nearly a year and a half. While overseas, I built a new ITX rig with an RX 6600 XT. I was able to ship it back to the States and I still have the same GPU. If i had to say which card I regretted buying, I'd say it was the 1050 Ti. Looking back I should have just bough the 1060 6gb as it was only fifty bucks more and had much better performance.

in 2006 I bought Radeon x1950Pro. The last card that didnt support directX 10. Few months later was available 2000 series cards.

ATI Rage had hw decoding for video back in the day!

I remember saving my money and buying a Voodoo 4500 back in the day. I also still have my dual EVGA GTX 260 Core 216s.

I think it was a ATI Radeon X1300. Driver support dropped I think around or due to the time AMD bought ATI. I remember something like my generation of cards was dropped in favor of some HD card I think. Thankfully I always keep old versions of drivers around. But new drivers had to be gotten from some 3rd party website (forget what it was called). So I've never bought nor considered team red for GPUs since. Even the team greens terrible handling of the 30 series cards and the terribly priced 40 series hasn't made me even consider team red yet.

Ah the only one I regret is a 3070Ti where I listened to some online reviewers and in store sales people instead of my gut. On the flip my RX480 ROG STRIX was an awesome purchase at the time.

I remember being really disappointed by an S3 Graphics card (not to be confused with Amazon S3.) Very few games supported it and those that did... well, it usually made no difference in terms of graphics quality.

I had a GTX480. It ran hot yes but it was the king at the time. I wonder if drivers ever made it better?

Please make a similar video with best graphics cards over the years

ATI 3D Rage II DVD+. It was identical in performance to the 3D Rage, which was integrated on partner motherboards and did not require a PCI or ISA slot. I "Upgraded" my retro rig with this thing, and it doesn't even have any more Vram. Still just 2 MB. What was the point of it? 2MB of Vram is more than enough for most Win98SE titles anyway I guess. (although I wish I could afford Voodoo2 money)

An HBM "What happened?/where did it go?" Video would be fun.

I had the fury x a few years ago. It died after 18 months use and got re-replaced with my old GTX770, which is currently enjoying a light retirement in my media centre PC.

The Titan purchase that I regret the most is the Secretlab

I had a 3dFX Creative Labs Banshee, with 16MB memory and one VGA output. I bought it because it had cool box art and was affordable.

the water cooled cards are dope. are you suppose to plug them into the air cooled radiator on the cpu?

One card I regretted buying was an 8800GT from XFX. While the card itself worked, the fan on it was appallingly loud, even at idle. I can't fathom why I didn't return it at the time, but I managed to live with a 24/7 hairdryer inside my PC for the better part of 2 years. Thankfully it died before the 3-year-mark, as 8800GTs were never long-lived cards. Both of my brothers' 8800GTs also died before reaching 3 years. It was an excellent performed for the money, to its credit.

I've really not had a lo g history with GPUs that I've owned personally. I only built my first PC back in 2013. Before the I'd game on a laptop with a gt555m and prior to that on an iMac in boot camp. All in I've only owned 3 graphics cards. My original build which had a GTX 650 (currently in my server for encoding purposes) an R9 280X and now a GTX 1060 which I've had for the past 6 years. Of all of them the worst was probably the 280x. It was just a rebranded 7970 at the time and while it was performant, I had a lot of headaches with drivers and missed features such as a dedicated encoder. But the big issue for me with the card in recent years is the power draw. It sits in a fractal node 202 which I use as a living room rig, and it really struggles to dissipate the heat. 225W of power draw ain't great in a case that small.

Riley is LMGs greatest acquisition

Diamond Stealth III S540 Savage 4 Pro - Back in the late 90's it was supposed to be a budget video card that, thanks to some neat tricks like a hardware texture compression decoder, was able to provide better looking graphics than NVIDIA's offerings. The better imagery was true, in games that supported S3 Texture Compression (basically unreal engine) but the card was slower than the competition because of dumb headed design decisions like not including a fan on the GPU.

I had a gtx 690 It was an dual gpu card with great fps but bad sli frametimes and a lot of micro stutter