I love Toyota but on the old ones you need to check the frame

@bobcoats2708

2 ай бұрын

TFL knows that. They learned it the hard way recently

@classicforreal

2 ай бұрын

And the smell.

My 1995 2.2 legacy has over 300,000 miles as well, and it put up with me beating the hell out of it in high school. None of my Subarus since have been nearly as reliable as that one. Those things are so well built and easy to work on. Great first car

Sequoia's are great but they chug fuel...painfully nowadays.

Making a "Cheap car" video that includes a 4Runner and a sequoia doesn't seem right!! 😢 That's because here in my country both are selling for over 20k

@Bolie420

2 ай бұрын

Some are 30k

@Yihooni

2 ай бұрын

20k with 384k miles?

@derdlin12

2 ай бұрын

@@Yihooni with that milage probably around 15K

@classicforreal

2 ай бұрын

What if they stink super bad?

@Stj209

2 ай бұрын

I have the same car in white. 5 speed wagon white with 270k drive it every day.

I have a 2001 Saturn LW300 wagon that I purchased new that has 404,000 miles on the original engine and transmission. I used it for commuting 160 miles per day for its first five years and then it became an extra car used primarily as a dog taxi and foul weather transportation to save the good cars. Repairs have been few and far between and mostly minor and it has never left anybody stranded and has only failed to start twice. Routine maintenance by a qualified mechanic and taking care of small problems before they cause larger problems and any vehicle can last almost indefinitely not just Toyotas.

@garysarratt1

2 ай бұрын

Fast highway miles on a new vehicle, as long as the drivetrain has been properly maintained, don’t make a vehicle age as much as “average” mileage and town driving. In my experience.

@williamegler8771

2 ай бұрын

​@garysarratt1 True but only about half of my commute was at highway speeds the rest of it was stop-and-go traffic in Chicago and about 150,000 MI of the vehicle accumulated mileage was as an extra vehicle and it was used by three teenagers who learned to drive in it.

@garysarratt1

2 ай бұрын

@@williamegler8771 But it’s enough to give you some grace. A car used to would get hot at a red light aaaaand… doh it’s a head gasket🤦🏼‍♂️😭

@Hulk-mc7bp

2 ай бұрын

Those early Saturns were definitely reliable

@TheLordOfNothing

Ай бұрын

@@Hulk-mc7bp Yep. Your model year was the last good Saturn year. My first car was a Saturn, and boy did I hate it but it brings me a smile when I still see some on the road.

Its nice to see Nathan and his brother spending some quality time together.

@markhavelka4924

2 ай бұрын

They need a 3rd guy for a ZZ Top cover band.

@diegogrin13

2 ай бұрын

I didn't know they where brothers

@hynsum

2 ай бұрын

@@diegogrin13 I don't think they are.

My late mother in law put over 300,000 miles on her Subaru Legacy. It was a well used, but well maintained vehicle, that she drove up and down the Front Range + Denvee Metro. Her kids had the honor of gifting it to one of her friends who needed reliable transportation.

@classicforreal

2 ай бұрын

This video is filmed in Denver so it can even be the exact same car.

The 1st and 2nd generation Legacy was the best Legacy ever made. The 2.2L is a fantastic engine. They just go and go. I learned to drive a manual transmission on a 1990 Legacy L wagon. I miss that car so much. I also sold a 1995 and a 1996 Legacy wagon when I had a used car dealership. One had a stuck odometer at 191k miles, but still ran like a clock. I loved driving them around. Not sporty cars per se, but they sat low, had a nice growly engine sound, and handled quite well.

I have a 2013 Subaru Impreza with 259,000 miles... still going strong. No check engine light, no head gasket issues. Well maintained so it's got a lot of life left for my teens!

@xinx-fn8973

2 ай бұрын

Just don’t let them put a cold air intake on it 😂

I'm about to hit 300000 in my 2015 Mazda. 3 2.0, manual transmission hatchback. Only major work I had to do was replace the throwout bearing. And both front drive axles. And I've been red lining it like Like it's some hot hatch. since day one. 😆

Gotta love a 1st gen Sequoia. 😍

For me the 2003. 3.0 h6 was extremely reliable got rid of it with 300k still running. Original engine and transmission original water pump

@Dankcatvacs

2 ай бұрын

No way

@quintonulm2435

2 ай бұрын

My 2007 outback H6 has 269k on the full original powertrain. The 3.0 and 3.6 is the way to go for subaru reliability after the 90s.

Those 1st and 2nd gen Subaru Legacys with the 2.2 are absolute tanks, I've owned many between 100k and 200k and they are the most solid vehicles I've driven, I literally drove my 1994 rust bucket 5 speed like a race car and it would not die!! Fantastic cars

Those Subarus are horrible for quarter panels rotting out. They just dissolve, they also don’t last too long after you hit a deer, compromise the trans cooler and keep driving it till it blows up after hitting the deer ( my friend blew his up that way )

I had a 2004 4Runner with the 4.7 V8. I miss that suv. Felt solid, well built, and the engine was awesome.

Great videos..enjoy them more than new car reviews

I had a 2000 obw, 2.5, AT, all original, best car I ever had. It had 292k miles when I sold it, and it still ran and drove great. It never blew the head gaskets, though they did seep a small amount of coolant and oil to the outside only. And it was so easy to service, the trans even had a drain plug and a spin on filter.

Nathan pretending to wear his seat belt in the subaru is awesome

@Tempsho

2 ай бұрын

Granted they are just in a parking lot

I have a 98 2.2 l that I bought at a wrecker auction for out the door 700 bucks with 245,000 mi that now has over 300 that runs flawless.

BUT did you check for frame rot on that Sequoia?

@shiftymcgee9359

Ай бұрын

From the last time TFL got a Sequoia at auction?

Tfl should buy the sequoia

When I sold my 2005 Dodge Magnum RT, it had 318,000 miles!

@Dankcatvacs

2 ай бұрын

Damnn

I have a 01 outback 170xxxmiles drinks coolant and oil just gotta top em up. Car was free can't complain at all

My 1998 Subaru Legacy Outback with the EJ-22 has 219,600 miles on it now, and runs so well I expect it to pass the 300,000 mark without any issues. It has never been rebuilt, and other than once when the fuel pump failed at 193,000 miles, it has never required a tow. I will need to replace the AC compressor once the summer heat hits this year. I have the oil changed once a year, and now averaging just 5000 miles a year, I have never have had to add oil. I recommend any Subaru car without reservation.

@quintonulm2435

2 ай бұрын

I wish the newer ones were built as well as the 2.2

@wigletron2846

Ай бұрын

The newer ones with a manual are solid. The cvt is the weak point otherwise.

Underpowered V-8’s last forever…. Great!! Glad everyone is going to turbo 6’s!! Squeezing every last hp and ft-lb out of smaller over stressed engines. What could go wrong?!

Had a Legacy wagon with a 2.2 and 5 speed and loved it! We decided to grow the family and big bummer had to get a mini van. As long as the snow didn't pack up under it we went anywhere.

We have a 1995 with the wonderful 2.2, and she still runs like a champ. Our tranny has the input shaft going, but it trained three teenagers how to drive stick, poor baby. She's our dog carrier, and our Home Depot runner. She has been all over California, through heat, mountain passes, major storms, and blizzards. She has 242000 and the engine is still going strong. Funny thing is, she's originally a Colorado rig. I'm a HUGE Toyota fan, but this little hippie mobile as I call it (my wife painted it very creatively) made me a subbie lover as well. We've had just as many Toyotas as subbies.

People talk crap about VW. But I have a 2001 VW golf TDI and I have 357K miles on it and I would get in and drive it ANYWHERE. Runs like a top. LOVE that car...

Am I the only one who thinks this episode was just tossed together? No bidding guesses and actual sale prices?

@michaelrugarber3785

2 ай бұрын

I feel like a lot of videos are like that lately

Depending on what your needs are when I think cheap and reliable I think Corolla, Civic, Honda Fit, Prius, Honda Element, Crown Victoria, Pontiac Vibe since it's pretty much a Toyota, Saturn Vue which with a V6 it's pretty much Honda with GM exterior and interior, Tahoes and Suburbans last as well.

@dewdew34

2 ай бұрын

Owned a Crown, Element, and daily a Vibe now that is a work horse. All over 250k when i had them. Vibe is the best though , pre 2008 with the 1.8l. Camry 4 banger was a great car too and Avalon's might be the best Toyota they made, still a bunch on the road and they weren't huge sellers

I miss my 2001 Kia Sorento. That sucker had 755,000 miles when I got rid of it and it never had a single breakdown.

My '96 Impreza Outback with 303k miles and 25mpg average agrees with this video.

My first car was a 98 impreza with the 2.2. Loved that engine to death. It unfortunately was neglected before I got it, and it didnt get driven right as I was learning manual and learning small 4 cylinders. I miss that car

Car that last get a old Benz 300SD or 300D. 78 threw 86. My 78 300SD has 733,000 miles. My 83 300D has 676,000 miles. Just change oil every 2,500 miles. With a good grade of oil. Keep valves adjusted.

Had a '98 Subaru Legacy GT sedan that went over 300,000 miles with a couple of timing chains and head gasket replacements. Although, my wife's 2005 Jeep Liberty lasted to around 280,000 miles with only a water pump replacement before we sold it to our niece. Both vehicle's were well maintained.

I was really hoping this video was going to end with one of you actually buying the Sequoia!

@quintonulm2435

2 ай бұрын

Judging by the front end and the mileage I’m willing to bet the frame was rotted to hell

I daily drive a 1999 Toyota Avalon with 255,000, still running strong💪

Sometimes it's about how the vehicles is used and maintained as well. My friend had a pontiac sunfire that blew up at 150,000km as he mostly drove it around town. My other friend had an hour long commute each way and his lasted till over 400,000km, probably the highest mileage one in existence as they were cheap pieces of crap.

I absolutely love my 1st Gen Sequoia. 2005 so it has that little bit more power in the 2UZ-FE (which I don't need but nice to have), 3 rows so I can tote the whole family around and it's been in TX it's whole life so not a speck of rust.

I had an '08 Legacy sedan with the 2.5 that I bought used. It had 70k when I bought it and I came to believe it was a hard 70k. I put another 80k on it and never had a problem with it.

It’s the way I drive cars makes them not last. But, IMO. The second generation Prius is one of the most reliable cars in existence. I literally beat the crap out of one, abused it all the way to 280k.

@classicforreal

2 ай бұрын

If you really drive cars that harshly, then you really should look into hybrids and EVs in the future. Seriously. I can dare you to drive it to try to break it and you won't. They're very popular as taxis because of this.

I had a 99 Legacy Brighton 5spd and it was ridiculously great in the snow. I’d pass bmw X series, Audi and Volvos all the time. It has a great torque curve. I ran Elf 5w30 and always ran premium gas with its 10:1 compression ratio and it was excellent in reliability. Ran to 320k miles on its 3rd owner.

Nathan needs to be in more videos. Only time I’m guaranteed to watch is when he is there. Not sure why he’s my favorite, but it is what it is.

My first car was a 96 legacy wagon with the 5spd. Loved that thing wish I never sold it.

Nobody has forgotten about the Sequoia. Just check marketplace. The 4 cars in our houshold are a auto Legacy sedan with 275k, 2005 4runner, 2005 Sequoia, and 2019 S60

@quintonulm2435

2 ай бұрын

Nobody has forgotten about them, but they certainly aren’t widely sought after by off road enthusiasts like the 4Runners are, which makes them significantly cheaper to buy

I got a 2008 chevy trailblazer with the 4.2 motor original motor and transmission with 281k miles so reliable to me

@phild9813

2 ай бұрын

Nice. There’s an era of v6 engines for GM that seemingly just last a long time, the 3.8 immediately comes to mind. Manufacturers got fuel injection figured out, but the engines otherwise were relatively simple. Not just GM, but also the ford 4.0, the toyota 4.0, nissan 4.0. There’s so many I don’t even know them. Now we’re going to dump them all for something more complex, more expensive, less reliable in turbo 4s.

@wigletron2846

Ай бұрын

​@@phild98134.2 was a straight 6. The 4.3 was a solid v6. It was the 5.7 v8 with 2 less cylinders. The 4.3 is still used in work vans and trucks.

My husbands 98 GMC cargo van ran for over 400,000 miles. The only reason we got rid of it was a guy backing out of his driveway with an extended trailer hitch tore the body from front to back🤦 i still miss her😢

I just got a 2016 Lexus GX460. Only 100K miles, drives and feels like it just came off the showroom floor

I already own three of the cars that will go over 300,000 miles. 04 Lexus ES330 11 Tacoma TRD Off Road V6 15 Sienna XLE Premium

Rumors of the death of EJ25s are blown out of proportion. I'm still driving a manual 05 Outback XT with a turbo & 170K on the clock. I even modded it back in 13.

@quintonulm2435

2 ай бұрын

As long as you check your oil Subarus are generally pretty good. The turbo ones need a little bit of reliability mods like the banjo bolt filter delete, and on the 05 models the catted up-pipe delete. My 05 Forester XT is on its second engine at 167k because the previous owner neglected to change the oil every 3k.

@michaelsprinzeles4022

2 ай бұрын

@@quintonulm2435 I swapped out pretty much the entire intake & exhaust. Intake, up-pipe & down-pipe (with a single high flow cat) are all Cobb & the cat back is Nameless Performance. My oil only gets changed every 6 months but I don't drive much & use synthetic oil & filter (supposedly good for 1 year). Other than that I did everything wrong. I'm the seventh owner and it was used for livery at some point.

@wigletron2846

Ай бұрын

The turbos had a better head gasket. They rarely failed especially in stock form.

My family sold are ‘07 outback for dirt cheap because it had multiple oil leaks that kept getting worse, body was relatively rust free (New England car it’s whole life) and it fired right up for the guy we sold it too, and yes it was a 5 speed manual, I was tempted to keep it but it just needed too much work for a novice to handle lol, 184k miles and supposedly factory head gaskets, I hope to see it back on the road and see 200k miles

I have a 2009 Subaru Forester i bought it in 2019 for 2000 dollars and put 1000 in it for maintenance items it had 120,000 miles when I got it and it has 180,000 miles now it has the single overhead cam ej 253 overall it is still running pretty well. No major issues just a starter battery alternator stuff like that.

What was the smell? Can't do that guys. Great video!

Could it be such a clean engine bay (Sequoia), because it is on its SECOND engine? Either way… that 4.7 L is legendary. Thanks for the video.

@wigletron2846

Ай бұрын

Thought the same on the Legacy. Engine was way too clean.

I have a 2007 4Runner with over 286,000 miles and 2010 Tundra CrewMax with over 180,000 and I absolutely don’t want to get rid of them!🤣

I bought an 06 tundra a few months ago. Had 192k on the dash and was in great condition inside and out. Best decision ever. They're basically the size of new Tacomas with old school comfort and reliability. Cost 1/4 the price of a new base model tacoma and has better options.

My 2.5 boxer is 150k and still running strong, get the triple layer turbo XT head gaskets and they won't fail

@jasonbinney2979

2 ай бұрын

Same, I'm at 200k with an MLS gasket.

@garysarratt1

2 ай бұрын

So y’all replaced your head gaskets?

@jasonbinney2979

2 ай бұрын

@@garysarratt1 yeah. Once they're replaced with an MLS gasket they're good to go for a very long time. I agree it's not ideal that it has to be done in the first place but at the age you're buying any EJ25 there's a 95% chance it's already been done for you.

@ddk80

2 ай бұрын

Any idea (ball park) the cost to replace the gasket? Also, would a 2010 Forester (non turbo) have the upgraded gasket?

@garysarratt1

2 ай бұрын

@@jasonbinney2979 So you did it proactively, it didn’t blow. Thanks!

I own a 2003 Ford F-150 with 328,000 miles on it and it still gets me to work everyday! Can't complain there..

@kgar6769

2 ай бұрын

Is it the 4.6 V8?

@trailblazinwithaspen158

2 ай бұрын

@kgar6769 nope it's the 5.4 V8

@Jesus_Christ_is_alive

2 ай бұрын

I had a 2004 F150 heritage 4.6 v8 with 400,000 miles when I sold, all original parts, never had an issue.

Wow...a Shaw Brothers t-shirt.

Nice 'Shaw Brothers' tshirt 36 chambers 😂🙏🏽👍🏽

I love my 2012 Honda Accord EX-L V6 sedan. 220K miles so far but its very comfortable, well built, no rattles and performs great.

I had a 98 legacy wagon and I only sold it because I moved cross country and couldn't drive two vehicles cross country so I only kept my suburban.but I would love to get another one

Nathan, love the t shirt. You a shaw bros fan

I have a limited sequoia and Iv spent a ton of money replacing things from 190k to now 230k miles. Which means that sequoia has been thru the same issues Iv had to replace. Not joking Iv spent thousands of dollars on my first gen sequoia granted it does run great but things go wrong like clock work. Better off buying a high mileage one honestly where someone has fixed all the issues that happen at 220k miles like mine has.

I would add the gmt800 Tahoe to this list, I see these around and almost all have over 200k miles and still run great. Better interior and seats then the sequoia too

What was the smell in the 4Runner? 😃

@motochris5459

2 ай бұрын

Deceased rodent in the blower housing, probably.

I thought this was a buy or bust episode, where's the price guessing?🥺

If you live in a snowy climate where they also apply salt... then most old cars are hopeless. Everything becomes a crusty mess to work on. After 12 to 14 years even the best made cars stop being fun to tinker on. It would be worth getting one of these type of cars from a milder climate where they can age without the life ending rust issues.

In the last year I have owned 3 cars with over 300k miles. A 2000 Acura RL 3.5, a 1998 Acura Integra (with a b18 non VTEC), and now an 2002 Expedition Eddie Bauer (5.4 V8 2 valve). All of them turned over without any fuss, drove like they had 150k on them, and all have been relatively cheap to maintain as beater cars. Plenty of cars will make it to 300k as long as they are taken care of!

as a retired cops daughter I take some offense to what you said about the panther platform most of the engines in that were nearly bulletproof when well maintained there's famously a first gen Lincoln Town Car that has 1.3+ million miles on the odometer its the 4th highest mileage car on the top 10 cars with most mileage #1 is a 1966 Volvo P1800 S with more than 3.3 million miles on it

@quintonulm2435

2 ай бұрын

They actually praised the panther platform in the video. They said that underpowered V8s like that 4.7 tend to last the longest, and they used the panther platform as another example of reliability.

Shaw Brothers!

We have an 07 Legacy/Outback and it's a freaking nightmare at 130k miles, I can't see it reaching 150k, much less 300k. One look at that engine and it screams brand new, all the rubber lines and wires look new, the alternator has no black powder from the belt wearing away whatsoever and the copper coils are shiny, that belt bushing looks brand new too, etc.

2UZFE was arguably the best engine that Toyota ever made. We loved our Sequoia.

The Sequoia got a 5 speed transmission in 2004-2007 not a 4 speed. It also only had the VVTI I-force 2005-2007 the 2001-2004 were non interference non vvti. And its a 2uz-fe not fg.

What year range of sequoia is the best?

Love a first gen Sequoia!

I maintain that manufacturing fewer longer lasting vehicles would utilize far less energy than creating many disposable ones. However, that smacks against the planned obsolescence philosophy.

I have a 2010 Hyundai Sonata 300000 running strong

The only problem of Subarus is that they all rust out here in Germany nearly all good Examples have been used as winter beater so they are very rare by now

Speaking of reliable wagons, what's the update on your 1990's Camry wagon? The white one with the V6 you showed a few months ago.

@Mr-pn2eh

2 ай бұрын

I want it

2.5 blows their tops the 2.2 is a tank I love my 2000 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport

I've got 389k on my 1996 JEEP Cherokee XJ SPORT. The legendary 4.0L.

Seriously what about the Subaru boxer head gasket problem????? It just doesn’t happen w the 2.2 EJ?

@ahadsdid

2 ай бұрын

Yup the head gasket problems only affect the 2.5s… the EJ22 is considered one of the most reliable engines Subaru has ever made

The Subaru's with the 6mm bolts on the water pump is a joke when the bolts break off like pretzels when trying to remove.

I don't always watch video with breakfast, but when Nathan and Brenden are involved I'll make an exception

Those early 90’s Subarus were tanks

@quintonulm2435

2 ай бұрын

I had two of them in high school that I got for less than $500 and beat the crap out of them and they were extremely solid. Good bargain AWD cars

Subaru is ok if you get a manual. Any car with cvt is pos. I had a friend tell me cvt transmission was the best because they’re so popular with automakers. I I asked him you think they’re popular because of their quality? I think they’re popular with the manufacturers because they’re so cheap and they can make a larger profit

How do you know if a used car has been properly maintained?

@quintonulm2435

2 ай бұрын

Take it to a trusted mechanic BEFORE you buy it and pay them to do a full inspection. It may seem like throwing money away if you have to take multiple cars to them to find a good one, but a couple hundred now is well worth it compared to the thousands you would have to spend in repairs on a poorly taken care of vehicle.

How much did the Sequoia bring at the auction?

@ten132

2 ай бұрын

Sakooya

2nd gen best gen legacy

Head gasket issues were not as prevalent as the media makes out. Most any vehicle can and will last 200k miles if properly maintained. The old Toyotas have serious frame and under body rust issues . What good is a good engine if you make a hard turn, stop hard or hit a pothole and body and frame separate ! Seen many in my shop where Toyota nuts spend thousands of dollars on frame work or full replacement.

opens doors on 4Runner "Nope!" Simultaneously 😂😂😂😂 Did you buy that Sequoia Brendan?? I would actually love to see that one on the channel. Take it on the next cross country trip! Hell, take it on a few cross country trips. Just take off that horrid push bar!

Thank you guys, great discussion, often a matter of opinion. Subaru's are generally a good choice, but I've seen a handful with the 100k head gasket issue. Love the 4Runner, and Sequoia, a huge fan of the Toyota 4.7 (from mid-2000's Tundra) the comfortable reliable Jeep alternative

Okay

I call bs been through probably 2 engines look at the bolts on the engine mounts and there should be a vin plate on the engine but I doubt it no Subaru makes it past 150k on original engine without at least head gasket replacement

How many head gaskets to get to 300k miles?

@quintonulm2435

2 ай бұрын

On a 2.2? The original set.

Reliably blows head gaskets. if the subaru was dirt cheap its worth fixing and flipping. those were simple ish stuff back then compared to the crap they are pushing out today

Toyota are great cars we've owned two.

Lol, I think I need to throw this shirt away. That 4 Runner…

i pick the sequoia.