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@SnarkNSass

2 жыл бұрын

Ever read Dragonlance books 📚?😁🖖🏻

@SnarkNSass

2 жыл бұрын

@@daxbashir6232 I am watching NuTrek now. Currently on Prodigy... It's got a good handful of new species. I just finished Picard yesterday...🤩😍😲🤯😎👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 🌟✌🏻☮️🖖🏻🌟

@JeanLucCaptain

2 жыл бұрын

WHAT IS YOUR DUTY? TO SERVE THE FOUNDERS WILL! WHAT IS THE FOUNDERS WILL? THAT WE FIGHT AND DIE! WHAT IS DEATH?! IT IS OUR DUTY!!!

With the quality content and the pretty slick editing, I'm sure we're going to see this channel hit at least 100k subs some day in the not very distant future.

@kevinjohnson7553

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely no question it will happen.

@racman7661

2 жыл бұрын

Surprised it has t happened already

@derekbootle8316

Жыл бұрын

At least 33k

Thank you for covering my people.

@JemHadar422

2 жыл бұрын

@@subraxas yes, my people. We serve the Founder from until death. Victory is life!!! 😂

Were the Jem’Hadar the predators who hunted the ancestors of the Vorta for food? Hence the animosity and contempt the Vorta have for their Jem’Hadar men?

@JanetStarChild

2 жыл бұрын

Now _that_ is a compelling speculation; I like it.

I wish Star Trek would elaborate more on the Dominion. I wouldn’t mind a series based fully on or in the Gamma Quadrant, the Founders focusing on their empire!

@howardlanus8467

Жыл бұрын

You think the Dominion had a long period of preparation, the Founders keeping to themselves, consolidating their strength while playing their neighbors off each other before keeping out with fleet after fleet of ships? Or did they make alliances with convenient species here and there?

@ThommyofThenn

Жыл бұрын

I just want to see a vorta in PIC

@daniel4647

Жыл бұрын

@@howardlanus8467 Probably made alliances as it suited them, their goal was control, not annihilation, so it would make sense if they would use more docile species to serve their goals without initiating a violent conflict with them. Since they are so obsessed with controlling everything tough, they would have probably had to resort to violence eventually, or at the very least the threat of violence, to keep everyone in line. But I could totally see them as the type to appear as benevolent helpers at first. Their whole demeanour and everything make me think of them a little bit like the aliens in Final Conflict, or the Aschen in Stargate, in the sense that they're strategic and think very long term.

I have met Louise Brown (first test tube baby) she worked for the post office and delivered my post when I lived in Bristol.

Another great video. I always loved DS9. They would often show re runs every night at 1 and 2 am every night and we watched the hell out of those. TNG was great when I a young kid but DS9 really hit hard as a teenager. anyways. Thanks alot for the lore and great memories.

Great conclusion to the mini series. Watch out for The Man! 😁😉

I think that the Dominion was one of the most intriguing civilizations in all of Star Trek canon. Thanks for this excellent (and I do mean excellent) video on the Jem'Hadar.

@stevencoardvenice

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, I just finished running through DS9 for the first time. Took about 5 or 6 months. Definitely a thought provoking setup for a civilization, if you can even call it that. I hope stuff like that doesn't exist out there in the galaxy

This is the best Star Trek/Sci Fi channel. High quality content and even the non Trek content fits well.

Obedience Brings Victory! Victory is Life! Just finished the DS9 series. Been watching since Christmas

Great video! Thanks!

Victory is Life! 😊

I look forward to your work, your explanations and conclusions on trek. Your channel is sure to soar.

This is, without a doubt, the best Star Trek channel on KZread ever!!!

Another interesting video Tyler most enjoyable. Can hardly wait for Monday's live stream see you then.

Skillshare is such a good sponsor because not only does it give us the opportunity to learn but also it helps creators improve themselves it’s really a win-win

All of this, and they still get curbstomped by a handful of Ferengi.

This series was terrifically entertaining and informative. You helped me understand this whole situation so much better. The Jem'Hadar are so formidable and single-minded. I feel like they would look at Klingons being biologically normal and despite their undeniable warrior culture consider them weak for having romantic relationships and raising families.

@LanMandragon1720

2 жыл бұрын

Nope watch Ds9 they respect the Klingons

@stevencoardvenice

2 жыл бұрын

The klingons feel the same about them. That they have no soul and no honor because they dont celebrate and enjoy the fruits of victory with wine and song

@irregularassassin6380

2 жыл бұрын

I think they were kind of confused by the Klingons, which represented a both a martial challenge and an enigma. Here was a warrior race, almost as hardy as themselves, with equal spirit. Yet, they lacked the one thing the Jem'Hadar believed made them special, their devotion to the Founders. It gets even better when you remember that the Jem'Hadar believe the Founders are living gods ... and the Klingons believe that they _killed_ their gods, and are superior to them when united as one people.

@stevencoardvenice

2 жыл бұрын

@@LanMandragon1720 Yes and no

New subscriber, by the by, greetings from my mighty Decepticon Army!!!

I like your channel, interesting content for us Trekkies. It is fun to listen to your narrative. You research the subject matter thoroughly and your content is well edited.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thanks James!

I have been watching a lot of your videos, but I haven't been commenting much. I have really enjoyed your videos. You do a job. I especially enjoy the Star Trek videos. Keep up the good work.

Subspace mines in particular reflect a certain cruelty that I find disturbing in dominion weapons. It makes sense for a species that has probably forgotten what "traditional" pain feels like.

Ometaklahn and his soldiers were awesome. Great video Tyler,as always.

I love your deep dives into alien species and their biology. Another excellent video. 👍

Please, what is the name of the song being performed during the skillshaire

I've seen it hypothesized that the Jem'hadar ability to shroud, scaly skin, and sense of honor indicates that they may have been derived in some way from the Tosk. They may contain genetic traits from multiple gamma quadrant species.

I’m dying to hear you’re deep dive on Horta

Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes!!!!

Considering how the Founders seem to have taken some inspiration from the Tleilaxu. I would not be surprised if female Jem'Hadar were made into something similar to axolotl tanks.

Thanks for video this alien biology series is fascinating. Are you planning one on the Hirogen? Always enjoyed seeing them 🙂

@OrangeRiver

2 жыл бұрын

I definitely have some thoughts about the Hirogen! I don't know how quickly I'd be able to get to that topic, but eventually I'd like to cover them on my channel

Jem hadar Vs Remans......the fight I'd like to see

@Shimra8888

2 жыл бұрын

It happened in one of the novels. The Romulans used the Remans as cannon fodder during the Dominion War.

I was bread for peanut butter and jelly.

When I was like 11, I wrote a fanfic about female Jem'Hadar, since I thought it was stupid to have an all-male race. I envisioned the females as being still humanoid, but capable of flight -- something no Star Trek species has been able to do, to my knowledge. Too bad I wrote it on a typewriter, long before I knew what fanfiction even was. Anyway, I always thought canon Jem'Hadar had the potential to be more than they were portrayed as, like the Klingons before them. It's a shame they seem designed to just be cannon fodder. "It's okay to kill them -- they're only genetically engineered monsters."

@irregularassassin6380

2 жыл бұрын

There are very few sapient Star Trek species (from alpha canon) capable of flight. I am aware of four, and only three of these can do so in Earth-standard atmospheres and gravities. One of those hovers rather than flies. For your reference, I've spent too much time outlining them below: First up are the Skorr and the Aurelians; both are from TAS. Notably, the design of the only Skorr we saw, Prince Tchar, was largely reused by the production company for the only Aurelian we saw, Aleek-Om, to save on budgetary constraints. The former appeared in TAS: "The Jihad" and the latter in "Yesteryear." The Aurelians have also made a background appearance in Lower Decks (LD: "An Embarrassment of Dooplers"). Second in appearance are the Exocomps, first seen in TNG: "The Quality of Life." These were beachball-sized, hovering, utility robots designed to "learn" and "adapt" as they completed tasks. However, their inventor, Dr. Farallon, inadvertently made them "too" capable of learning; the robots were able to develop sentience over time, much in the way droids seem to in Star Wars. It wouldn't be until LD: "No Small Parts" that the Exocomps appeared again, this time represented by recent Starfleet Academy graduate Ensign Peanut Hamper. She apparently picked her name using a mathematical formula. Interestingly, Ensign Hamper references having a father (likely not Dr. Farallon, as she was female), and claimed to have only joined Starfleet to anger him. Dialogue in the same episode from Ensign Tendi also suggests that she, Hamper, was one of the first Exocomps in Starfleet. The last flying race, that I can think of, are the Elaysians from DS9: "Melora." This is also the species that cannot fly, or even move much, in environments with more gravity than their native G. Though appearing similar to most humanoid races, they are capable of something very resembling flight under the exceedingly low-gravity conditions present on their home planet. In alpha canon, we have only ever seen one Elaysian, Ensign Melora Pazlar, who used a type of mechanical exoskeleton and a wheelchair incorporating anti-grav tech to get around in standard 1G environments. Anyway, I agree that I wish we had seen some more Jem'Hadar development in DS9. I suspect that the writers did what they could, and we will have to wait for another series to explore them more. I suspect Discovery would be best-suited to do so, as a great deal of time has passed, and the show can easily go anywhere in the galaxy for its stories.

@JanetStarChild

2 жыл бұрын

Personally, I find it more baffling that we don't see more all-female species in science fiction (including Star Trek), since they have the potential to procreate on their own; a phenomena witnessed in the real world among several animal species. We should see way more asexually-reproducing advanced species in sci-fi; and they would all be biologically female and not the asinine "all-male" iteration like the namekians (of which they are in fact biologically female but are presented as male).

@irregularassassin6380

2 жыл бұрын

@@JanetStarChild Mmm. I'm kind of glad we don't see much of that, because I have a feeling that any storyline around a species like that would quickly become ... distasteful, shall we say. In a perfect world, without misogyny, such a species would be a fascinating inclusion to any sci-fi franchise.

@JanetStarChild

2 жыл бұрын

@@irregularassassin6380 Y'know, you're actually right, now that I think about it. Any important or empowering presentation of women in fiction typically goes sideways because of toxic masculinity.

@irregularassassin6380

2 жыл бұрын

@@JanetStarChild Yeah. I hate that that's the state of entertainment right now, but it kinda is. I think we're very close to the time when things like a race of asexually-reproducing female aliens can be a thing in mass-market sci-fi without it being made weird. Close, but not there yet. To be fair, there is nothing wrong with a character making it weird, so long as they're shown the error of their ways, in some form. Turn it into a reflective moral lesson on the male gaze. That would be a good step forward, but I'm very glad it wasn't attempted on DS9 back in the 90's.

Love your content. I would be interested to see how you go about your research and such.

@OrangeRiver

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I do showcase some of that kind of stuff for members and patrons and talk about it a bit on my livestreams. Not to hide my process behind a paywall but just as an exclusive behind the scenes treat 😉

Incredible job as always. You go so indepth to explain these concepts and it is always very entertaining and educational to watch. I sent this to several of my friends urging them to give your channel a look.

@OrangeRiver

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Marcomir!

Live long and prosper 🖖

Great episode, Tyler.

I remember Test Tube Baby being an insult in the 80s and 90s. I don't think any of us kids even knew what a Test Tube Baby actually was. Mentioning the CIA and their Crack Trade. You are brave, unlike most of the cowards on KZread. Let's hope they don't treat you like they did Gary Webb.

Ever thought there are a lot of similarities between the jemhadar and toth from the first season of ds9 and star fleets first encounter with a gamma quadant speceies have a look totally is basically a proto jemhadar

@SAVAGEBEAST80

2 жыл бұрын

Please have a look into it

@SAVAGEBEAST80

2 жыл бұрын

@@subraxas yes tosk thanks for the correction bro

ketracel white and gem hadar reminds me of opiates like methadone and humans so much.

I want to see more of sponsor clone 😂

I wonder how things are for these species in the post war Dominion; the _Odominion_ as it were.

Keep up the good work here brother. I love the content when it comes to Star Trek. It's done very well with info any fan would adore.

Bravo regarding the CIA comment at 7:08 LOL.

I've thought the bone forehead ridges were just the result of them being Alpha Jem'Hadar

When dealing with Jem'Hadar, set phasers to cripple.......

Hi Tyler, thank you for all your very interesting and enjoyable videos about Star Trek. I never watched DS9, I am afraid. Even though i know it is your favorite series. But your friday evening launches are a sort of ‘white’ for me. I am really looking forward to them.

I now wish the Jem'Hadar kid said "this isn't even my final form". Someone please make an edit.

I always just assumed that the changelings lied to the jem'hadar and the vorta about being created by the changelings

Possibly the most inteligent Comment on the "political Buzzword starting with A" i've seen recently 👍

Of course they remember who Houdini is. 24th century culture is obsessed with golden age earth culture. They all play classic music and love Charlie Chaplin too.

Population control would need to be in effect to let us "grow" people at whim. When we get to that stage. That will sadly affect couples wanting to have children through natural means. The Jem'Hadar are basically weapons of war. Though DS9 tried to give them human qualities in a few episodes. So to grow more of them makes logical sense.

The shroud of the Dominion has fallen, BEGUN THE JEM'HADAR WARS HAVE...

Incorrect. The Gem'hadar themselves canonically stated that they indeed needed to eat. What was probably meant about not eating, show wise, is that they don't need it often or can go long stretches so long as they're also getting the White. From the episode Hippocratic Oath.

Jem Hadar: how old are you? DAX: I stopped counting after 500 Jem Hadar: shocked Pikachu

Weird coincidence that you cover artificial wombs during a time when the A-Word is bit in the news

Hey Love the video but can I make a recommendation? Add Jam'hader into the video title. I been looking for jam'hader related videos for ages and youtube algorithm never recommended this one to me. I was only able to find in browsing through your channel after seeing your krogan video. Loved that too btw.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! I may try that, but there's no guarantee adding "Jem'Hadar" to the title would actually increase its reach in the algorithm. Jem'Hadar is in the tags, for what those are worth. And as far as the hashtags in the top of the description, as I've said before, only the first three actually show up in the video description as it's displayed publicly. So my priority with those should be to make them as broad as possible. Using more generic language in the titles can actually be beneficial as when the video lands on the recommendations of someone outside the Trek fandom, they can be more intrigued than if they see a bunch of keywords that are specific to the Star Trek fandom. That's why I don't have (Franchise Name) in the title of all my videos, because my goal is to reach as many people as possible. That said, I was actually thinking about going through and redoing a bunch of my titles again. Adding the species name might help, but we'll see. It's KZread's job to promote it.

can wee take a minute to take a look at the likes to views and comments to views ratios? these numbers are great and just go to show how great your stuff is

@OrangeRiver

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I would like to see you cover the hurq since they are tied to the jem'hadar in sto

@CristySFM1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@daxbashir6232 I mean a full breakdown of the hurq, the early klingon space flight video briefly talked about them

@CristySFM1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@daxbashir6232 same can be said with the Breen but still covered them

I love these guys they're so 90's badass edgelord Thay actually remind me of Doomsday from DC comics

Bred for battle, as strong as multiple humans, embedded intelligence so they know tactics and all relevant battle knowledge from birth, fully mature in a matter of days, train their whole lives, ultra loyal, perpetually on drugs, and still get knocked out cold for minutes to hours at a time by a single star trek style double fisted punch to their gut from a species that is considerably weaker. Yup, that's trek.

@peterjf7723

2 жыл бұрын

Just like in Doctor Who how the Sontarans, another race of cloned soldiers can easily be knocked out by a blow to the back of the neck.

and Worf could still kick the ass of dozens of them

I have a little bit of head canon that the Jem' Hadar are actually the replacements for the Hurq. I feel like the Hurq were the first enforcer species but they rebelled. Thus the ketricel addiction. It fits with the Klingon lore too. It would explain why the Hurq are only in the history books as the Jem' Hadar we're sent to erase the Founders mistake and make an example.

What was the episode name and season with the young Jem'Hadar. I always love the episode when the Jem'Hadar are "stranded" on a planet with Bashir and O'Brian. The first is trying to weed them off the failsafe drug.

@jadendafinger

Жыл бұрын

I believe it's called "The Abandonned'

Meanwhile the Jam'Hardar are bred to GET DOWN

If it's specifically stated in the show that they are all male, then you have to assume an origin with two or more sexes, if they had been grown from scratch they wouldn't be considered male as they would have no sex.

I have always suspected that the jem Hadar ancestors were hirogens

They are kind of like orks

Ofcourse they remember Houdini. Do you remember Merlin? He'll be more myth than man by then. Haha

@davidseligman6445

2 жыл бұрын

@@subraxas Most elaborate , well thought out reply to any youtube statement I've ever made. Nice. I shudder to think of the amount of post atomic horror that would remove the name Houdini from the lexicon. Hopefully our path isn't as rough as predicted in Trek.

I do like the idea that the Jem'Hadar were the species the persecuted and hunted the founders.

I believe those are Alpha Quadrant Jem’Hadar. Klingons head bunt in close quarters. Since they would have fought more Klingons hand to hand. Here’s a cut and paste from Memory Alpha The Alphas were Jem'Hadar who were created in the Alpha Quadrant in 2374, after the Dominion realized that no reinforcements could come through the Bajoran wormhole.

Harry Houdini is an eastern European magician who gained a reputation of an escape artist.

@peterjf7723

2 жыл бұрын

@@subraxas Erik Weisz was his real name. Houdini was the name of French magician who was his teacher.

I had thought the Jem'Hadar used Polaron energy for their weaponry

interesting

which also proves that stargeted geneticts is possible

As a single male I would be interested in that technology. Only I'd be too old take advantage of it.

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😎😁🖖🏻

its not cannon but the dominion arc in st online has some back story.

How much a jem'hadar need to eat and in how many meals daily to reach adulthood in 3 days??

lmao at the CIA joke

Then why can Sisko take them out with the "Kirk double-fist" without breathing hard? It would have been so easy for him to show off some rapid-fire phaser skills and be halfway believable. The Jem'Hadar literally have teeth on their faces -- you shouldn't be able to punch one without ruining your hand.

Speaking if the white, let's work hard to get the coke back in coke.

nothing about the Dominion ships ?

Crack 😂😂😂😂!!!!!!

My head canon was that the Hunters and their prey the Tosk were the ancestors of the Jem’Hadar. The Hunters would have been an early member race of the Dominion possibly supplying the Founders with the Dominion’s early technology.

@anonymoose9315

2 жыл бұрын

@@subraxas there are clear parallels with the three species. All came through the wormhole which is close to the dominion. While I agree with you about the small universe syndrome, it’s a clear problem in Star Trek and to more of an extent Star Wars, there are clear similarities with them.

@kaitlyn__L

2 жыл бұрын

@@anonymoose9315 also in the case of Tosk there’s the same VFX for cloaking, and the writing staff said they wanted to incorporate a link but couldn’t find a way to make it work naturally in any later episode. So that’s far more than just coincidental similarities.

@anonymoose9315

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaitlyn__L you are 100% right I forgot about that.

Jem'Hodor 🤌

Thought they were Indian. You know, like the way ST:TNG used Ferengi.

@comentedonakeyboard

2 жыл бұрын

Or perhaps inspirer by the Ottoman Empire and it's Janissaries 🤔

@argonwheatbelly637

2 жыл бұрын

@@comentedonakeyboard : Perhaps, but I'm talking about how they co-opted the word.

First

@milk_bath

2 жыл бұрын

It is 2022. You still think that’s fun and cool? Are you even old enough to use this website?

@borchmore9

2 жыл бұрын

@@milk_bath Comments help the creator no matter what they are and I don't always have a constructive response. Sorry if it's a bit cringe but KZread is shit sometimes.

@OrangeRiver

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly 👆 Appreciate it @Borchmore

@milk_bath

2 жыл бұрын

@@borchmore9 So you decide to make it crappier with a joke that was funny once in 1995? A simple “Thanks!” to the content creator helps the channel if you just want to leave a comment instead of grasping at attention for yourself.

@lifeinthevoid1595

2 жыл бұрын

@@milk_bath they weren't rude and they didn't hurt anyone

“3 parent babies”, oh, you mean that thing that isn’t possible?

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

...I mean, quite literally, it is a thing. Very rare, but an established procedure. It's called mitochondrial replacement therapy.

@brianpayne4549

Жыл бұрын

@@OrangeRiver sorry, i don't think so. I'd ask if you ever met someone with 2 dads and a mom, but I'm sure you'd say yes, just to prove me wrong. Personally, I've never met ANYONE with more than the NORMAL required amount of parents.

@brianpayne4549

Жыл бұрын

@@OrangeRiver so rare, that, for all intents and purposes, it doesn’t exist? Gotcha….

@brianpayne4549

Жыл бұрын

@@OrangeRiver btw, can this third parent be viable WITHOUT the use of gene splicing or genetic manipulation? I doubt it, which means it isn’t possible.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

@Brian Payne "I've never met ANYONE with more than the NORMAL required amount of parents" Dude... "I've never experienced this so it doesn't exist" is not an argument. Donations of mitochondrial DNA from a third parent to ameliorate genetic diseases is a well documented type of in-vitro fertilization. Read up: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_replacement_therapy "I'm sure you'd say yes just to prove me wrong" Sure, buddy. Secondary question: Are you a Christian?

What is a “political buzzword that starts with a letter A”?

The fact that Jem Hadar don't live past 20 is a skill issue Klingons never had that problem

I mean, sure they remember Houdini. We still recall names like Caesar, Rameses II, etc. etc. to this day.

i have a question, if the dominion petty much has near or total control of the gamma quadrant, than what or who have the Jem'Hadar being dying to with such attraction that even before the war for the alpha/bata quadrant that 20 year olds are a rareity and 30 year olds are mythical in their rarity. i can understand why they'd start suffering these losers during the dominion war but what was coarsening that attrition rate before. encounters with borg raids? some as yet unknown faction or factions with in the gamma quadrant that have being able to hold the dominion off?

With all the discussion of the technology, you fail to mention how creation of something like the Jemhadar is moral abomination and crime against all sentient beings.

None of that is a metaphor of crack and the cia. Thats something you added on ur own.

another thing about them is they are named after an indian army rank.. when they were under the british. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemadar