There's something NOT QUITE RIGHT about KLIPSCH's 'The Fives'

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  • @DarkoAudio
    @DarkoAudio2 жыл бұрын

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  • @Mosamania
    @Mosamania2 жыл бұрын

    The Klipsch Fives were designed with the Klipsch Subwoofer in mind. Plugging them with a subwoofer takes them to a really better level of sound. Try plugging them into a subwoofer and thar should fix all your complaints with them, but I agree it should wound better out of the box, but I think Klipsch tried to make the Fives sound like their much bigger older brothers, the Forte and tried really hard to do that with DSP, but physics at the end of the day will have the final say, but seriously plug them into a sub and they will sound much much better, crazy how much they improve with that.

  • @rosendomerel9864
    @rosendomerel98642 жыл бұрын

    I love this speakers, it's been one year since I got them, I used for my art desktop computer setup with kanto stands, via usb connected to roon, tidal, CD player connected via optical toslink and with a SVS micro 3000, the sound is amazing, as mention before with the high-pass filter, for me this speakers are just fun to listen and dynamic, small to medium rooms, and for the price and size and connectivity they are amazing :)

  • @eminienina3256
    @eminienina32562 жыл бұрын

    Brother, youre the best on the tube, I always watch every one of your reviews with interest and delight.

  • @chrisbarnard8399
    @chrisbarnard83999 ай бұрын

    Been struggling with these speakers for years but the latest firmware update finally makes them the product I thought I was buying 3 years ago. You can now set the EQ to address the bass issues and never open the (horrible) app again! AMAZING. Connect turntable, Raspberry Pi for streaming and TV and i'm finally enjoying living with these Klipsch it's just annoying it took so long to get here.

  • @vicfendan

    @vicfendan

    Ай бұрын

    Hey, how do you change the eq once and for all? For me I have to change it every time the speakers are turned on.

  • @antoniofossaluzza4675
    @antoniofossaluzza46752 жыл бұрын

    You need to try them with something plugged in the subwoofer output, even just plugging a cable triggers an high-pass filter (at 80hz i believe) that cleans the sound hugely

  • @antoniofossaluzza4675

    @antoniofossaluzza4675

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention than pairing them with a sub you get the clean sound from the fives and the punch from the sub

  • @budzlightyear2212

    @budzlightyear2212

    2 жыл бұрын

    How about plug it to a sub?🙃

  • @simoesm59

    @simoesm59

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello. John thanks for the review. I have owned a pair of the fives for 2 years and I agree with John's opinion. But once I added a Klipsch C300 subwoofer that took the frequencies below 80Hz off the fives they sound a lot cleaner, nice imaging and non fatiguing. I like the sound of my system for the money I spent. I may say I love it. The C300 sub has room correction which makes a huge difference.

  • @kona328WH

    @kona328WH

    2 жыл бұрын

    All these literally need is a play with the EQ then all is fixed. I also have a SVS3000Micro sub for movies

  • @edlinton

    @edlinton

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kona328WH I have the same setup and I agree that movie watching is excellent. However, with music I am not sure if I am getting the crossover at 80Hz. Have you noticed that as well?

  • @B.D.E.
    @B.D.E. Жыл бұрын

    Great review! Thanks. Great combination of both thorough and accessible.

  • @TheLWebb100
    @TheLWebb1002 жыл бұрын

    I really love these comparison videos a lot!

  • @misterwoody_
    @misterwoody_2 жыл бұрын

    The outtakes at the end are a brilliant tool to keep people engaged right to the end - I just wish I could remember they're there. Great content as always thank you John

  • @onepurpose315
    @onepurpose3152 жыл бұрын

    Quick story: so I actually started my journey looking for speakers by watching your kef wireless video but realized I didn’t want to spend more on my speakers then I did on my oled. I needed up with the fives after watching Andrew Robinson video and I love these! I actually got rid of a vizio Dolby atmos sound bar (moved to bedroom) and love the sound of the fives way more. I paired a cheap jamo s808 sub ($120) and can’t be more happy! Keep up the good work

  • @thomaswachter7782
    @thomaswachter77822 жыл бұрын

    Another great video. Thank you, John.

  • @FreddySavage3
    @FreddySavage32 жыл бұрын

    I have my Fives hooked up to my PC. I have an R-120SW plugged in the sub out, and have a custom EQ I dialed in with Peace Equalizer. The setup is phenomenal for PC gaming, listening to music, watching movies/videos, or anything else you'd generally wanna do with your rig. I will admit tho they didn't sound great just raw out of the box and I haven't hooked them to a TV or anything else because I got them to be computer speakers. I'd imagine I wouldn't adore them as much if I didn't have an equalizer solution, but I'd personally also say that about most any speaker. Pairing them with a sub frees them, setting a proper EQ makes them shine bright.

  • @brianoliver7175
    @brianoliver7175 Жыл бұрын

    Great video John. I bought a pair of the 5’s a few months ago and did not know about the Klipsch Connect App and the ability to change settings. I will have to check it out and try some other settings. I use mine as a replacement sound bar and to play streaming music from my phone outside when we are having parties. They sound better than my Bose 300 sound bar also.

  • @edwards409
    @edwards409 Жыл бұрын

    I noticed the difference in quality between inputs by accident when my TV's ARC suddenly stopped working, so I switched to optical. The downside was not being able to control the volume via TV's remote anymore and having to use the Klipsch one. On the upside - music sounded different. Can't put it into words exactly like you do - but "better" kind of different. I had no idea you have to go through that song and dance in order to update it though. Going to check it out, thanks for this !

  • @annacynd7
    @annacynd7 Жыл бұрын

    I had it for more than a year simplest, versatile set up i can find to play with my x 1 tt, added klipsh sub , great sound don’t need the app , much better with the sub, i think it’s built for a sub to be added

  • @garypolsinelli6033
    @garypolsinelli6033 Жыл бұрын

    Your review was spot on IMO. Great job and very well articulated. The FW update to get the EQ availability is cumbersome to say the least. I also have been struggling with the congestion you mention. The one thing I don't notice as much are the highs. I've noticed the lack of which I find puzzling of a Klipsch horn speaker. I have the EQ setting adjusted and they seem to be barely there. If I paid $799 US I would be very disappointed. With that being said, I'm really excited about the SVS Prime Wireless Pro setup you reviewed.

  • @stevestumbaugh
    @stevestumbaugh Жыл бұрын

    I bought my Fives at Costco for $499+tax and I love them. I can listen to them in my one room apartment at a volume that is somewhat low and I can hear them clearly all the way to my bedroom. The bass is smooth and not overly emphasized and the highs are never harsh. I saw the new versions of these and I am foaming at the mouth to hear them.

  • @Paul-RSA
    @Paul-RSA2 жыл бұрын

    Another great review, love this channel!

  • @purpleviking46
    @purpleviking462 жыл бұрын

    I own these and love them. I use them in a desk top 2.2 set up. The low/high pass filter with a sub really opens the mids up and takes the congestion away, also I don't use the arc or toslink, I use RCA with a dedicated dac, preamp, and bellari eq and they sound very good that way. Very analog set up using the eq nobs and preamp nob for volume control

  • @jcappleman
    @jcappleman2 жыл бұрын

    Even after a fairly negative review, I decided to try the fives with a Klipsch subwoofer that was on sale. They are plugged into my PC on stands on each side of my desk and adding a sub makes these sound much better. I’m now a believer in adding a sub to bookshelf speakers. I’m going to get a KC62 for my LS50Ws after trying it on a much cheaper setup.

  • @kaing5074

    @kaing5074

    2 жыл бұрын

    Try doubling up with two svs 3000 micros. Same price for a symmetrical system

  • @stevehinchey9013
    @stevehinchey9013 Жыл бұрын

    Great professional review, especially the summary. I bought The Fives last year. Yes, the firmware upgrade and app are a bit kludgy. But still, far easier than your basic AVR setup. I have a pair of older Polk Audio towers RT1000i with their large center channel speaker, hooked up to a new Denon AVR. Still not perfect with movies or streaming TV, very directional for stereo music. After listening to music on the Fives, I was astounded at how much further the music traveled through the house than the Polks, with little power. I loved the sound, and the bass. Speaker stands made the bass a bit more mellow. Hooked up via HDMI to the TV, I was embarrassed at how much better they sounded the my Polks. Perfect? Not at all, but I enjoyed that up front sound more, and even separated at only 6 feet, far less directional. Sure, I have old ears, which is a benefit as far as cost goes. I considered getting the newer Sevens, but too big for their location, I am trying to downsize. The multiple ways you can connect these speakers is a huge plus, and I haven't seen any other setup that comes close at this price level. That's also a key point, in that most other powered speakers sound like crap compared to these, especially using the HDMI TV setup.

  • @bigdallyc
    @bigdallyc2 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done, John. Bravo!

  • @MakiPavlidis
    @MakiPavlidis2 жыл бұрын

    Really really helpful, thanks John

  • @dajuice4200
    @dajuice42002 жыл бұрын

    I've had them for a year and I love them. I replaced a Bose soundbar, and could not be happier with them. I have not had the same issues you had.

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg10752 жыл бұрын

    Great review

  • @lozjoyce1
    @lozjoyce12 жыл бұрын

    Great work John.

  • @iamrobcrawford
    @iamrobcrawford2 жыл бұрын

    Kind of a mindreader... I've been considering these for a while, as recently as this morning!

  • @F1fletch
    @F1fletch2 жыл бұрын

    I found they sounded best with two tiny subs (which engages the crossover and removed the bloated bass to my ears). I tried lots of combos but ultimately left the dynamic bass eq on and adjusted the baby subs to blend nicely. It took hours but patience paid off and they now sound WAY better to these ears than as stand alone speakers.

  • @jefftaylor8594
    @jefftaylor85942 жыл бұрын

    I use these for desktop rca in from an external source, it makes a world of difference. They definitely cut corners. Also noticed the line/phono switch was down in a lot of the shots. That should be up unless you are hooked up to a turntable/external amp.

  • @COVIDisA_HOAX
    @COVIDisA_HOAX Жыл бұрын

    With a chromecast audio hooked up to the fives via optical....sounds pretty amazing

  • @christiangarcia1546
    @christiangarcia15462 жыл бұрын

    I bought these when they first came out and was absolutely in love with the look and feel. It was so hard for me to send them back because I wanted to love them so bad. But I could not betray my ears. I wanted them primarily for vinyl and that was a joke. Incredible sounding recordings sounding ok, but anything delicate was lost. I lost all of my folk music and classical. The Fives were "impressive" in that they were loud and boomy. I remember hearing a long time high end audio salesman say that the non-audiphile equated good sound with "loud." But I honestly preferred my budget bedroom $200 Fluance a41s for clarity and precision. Before sending them back I tried them in different rooms in different spaces and different positions with different sources. Ultimately I went a different direction and am VERY happy I did.

  • @uTube00789

    @uTube00789

    2 жыл бұрын

    "I wanted them to love them" so true. 😅 I felt mislead by most reviewers. Most of them only commenting about how "loud" they can get. What about quality?

  • @ashliehiggins
    @ashliehiggins2 жыл бұрын

    This was perfectly timed, as I was thinking about these along side LSX IIs, as the HDMI in is what I'm after so I can use my 42C2 as an audio hub for airplay and routing audio from my computer and PS4.

  • @MrStingraybernard
    @MrStingraybernard2 жыл бұрын

    Great thorough review

  • @mikemcdonald9584
    @mikemcdonald9584 Жыл бұрын

    You sir are excellent

  • @kevinryan7531
    @kevinryan7531 Жыл бұрын

    I haven't tried the fives, but I own the sixes and have found they sound much better with an external DAC. It might defeat some of the all-in-one appeal, but I've found that the results are worth it.

  • @diamondbracelette
    @diamondbracelette2 жыл бұрын

    Had the Fives for over a year. I agree they need some work but it's worth it. Before the EQ app was launched, I simply bought a cheap Ayima A2 ($45) DAC and this improved the DAC signal from my Macbook, but crucially offerd tone controls. Run the Fives at neutral bass setting and use the DAC to tweak bass and treble. The subwoofer rec by users is accurate too. I'm running a jamo 808 bc it's small and cheap. Not a terrible sub! Although many will dismiss it as such, and it certainly isn't high end. But it definitely provides a step up to Fives' performance. Keeping budget in mind, bonus tweaks are running a Fosi p1 tube preamp with swapped tubes, and launching Mac EQ app for further tweaks. Both these things make a difference but the first two things are the meat and potatoes.

  • @doodlewop
    @doodlewop2 жыл бұрын

    Just got my Fives yesterday. Love them. Amazon US is having a great sale on them right now as well. Cheers

  • @ryanjofre

    @ryanjofre

    Жыл бұрын

    What did you pay if I may??

  • @masoncnc

    @masoncnc

    10 ай бұрын

    I just got some myself. I really like them. Not expensive...so much value

  • @falagarius
    @falagarius Жыл бұрын

    That's quite dedication to aesthetics if you don't want to plug in your turntable because "it would make the back of the speaker busier"

  • @thomasnew8606
    @thomasnew8606 Жыл бұрын

    Bass problem can be solved if hooking up an external subwoofer

  • @josexavierjr.5633
    @josexavierjr.56332 жыл бұрын

    Good video, John........oh, and by the way.....great attitude as well!

  • @Hyjy0
    @Hyjy02 жыл бұрын

    I've had these speakers for a little while now. I bought them second hand, so I saved a pretty penny on them, but it didn't make me any happier with the purchase. After a little bit of EQ, and getting an outboard dac (got the speakers integrated into a headphone setup via the RME adi-2) their sound changed from a dissappointment into something I'm personally quite happy with. I do wonder how they'd compare against the Kanto TUKs, but I'm in no rush to upgrade/sidegrade away from these speakers. I would recommend trying a dac with these speakers, as the one built in isn't much to write home about, and you don't even need golden ears to be able to tell the difference.

  • @1calebparker
    @1calebparker2 жыл бұрын

    In the US these can be found cheap. I got these and a Klipsch 12" wireless sub for $730 US. I actually find myself listening at lower volumes after adding the sub. Not audiophile Hi-Fi but it's compact, cheap (relatively speaking), convenient, and I regularly am switching between BT/HDMI/USB/Phono inputs. At full retail, I would have pieced together [used] separate components and passives

  • @Big-J-8579
    @Big-J-85792 жыл бұрын

    I think they have a place for the casual listener who wants easy. Thanks!

  • @jackblackwhole
    @jackblackwhole2 жыл бұрын

    Had The Fives for a year now. The DSP is a hit and miss depends on the music. I since connected a sub and called it a day. For me the Fives is perfect for what I need, the jack of all trade master of none. All I wanted from these was the plug and play, and it does that perfectly. I really liked the fact it came with all the audio cables (rare these days) and the ARC connectivity works well with my TV. I am a musician and yes I listen for details. But the details of a speaker never bothered me as such, I enjoy good musicianship on 20 dollar speakers any day of the week. These speakers are what you pay for, and the branding premium. Hifi for me is about knowing your needs. And a fat wallet.

  • @michaellundgren8551
    @michaellundgren8551 Жыл бұрын

    I use a WiiM mini for music and use the 10 place EQ to get the sound just right. For TV the base is perfect out of the box.

  • @radovangoricanec4049

    @radovangoricanec4049

    8 ай бұрын

    I am planning to buy WiiM Pro with SIXES. Are you satisfied with bass? My room is 55m2.

  • @2731TomveS
    @2731TomveS2 жыл бұрын

    i like your reviews, been following you for quite sometimes. I have it , the FIVES, for over a year now. most of the bass issues were gone after I added a Klipsch sub-woofer into the system. and i can control the subwoofer level from their remote. i feel the mid and the high sound better too. not needing the amplifier for me means i can spend the money on the streamer and the DAC. another thing that i like is the flexibility of the many ways of inputs i can feed the speakers. this is my current feed to the FIVES; TIDAL > Zen iFi Streamer > SMSL M500 mkII DAC > Klipsch the FIVES or the more convenience ones, just BT Tidal from Samsung phone to the FIVES or SMSL M500 mkII.

  • @jalee1910

    @jalee1910

    2 жыл бұрын

    How does the fives sounds pairing with SMSL M500 MKii??

  • @2731TomveS

    @2731TomveS

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jalee1910 better sound stage with the smsl m500 mkii. i notice the depth difference vocal vs instrument, better instrument placement horizontally too.

  • @brianguidi3424
    @brianguidi3424 Жыл бұрын

    I'd be curious what your thoughts are with The Fives connected to a subwoofer, which is the setup I use (Klipsch R100SW). This offloads the bass work to the sub, freeing up The Fives to focus on highs & mids, where they shine.

  • @BoudewijnVanderhaeghe
    @BoudewijnVanderhaeghe2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed. Not everything is great, or terrible....I like it this way. Nice video.

  • @masoncnc
    @masoncnc10 ай бұрын

    Just got my the fives. Amazing value off Amazon. Quite a bit of bass for sure.

  • @ANDRE1mang

    @ANDRE1mang

    9 ай бұрын

    Happy for ya! they're definitely great for music!!

  • @warmbutterpancakes
    @warmbutterpancakes2 жыл бұрын

    Just a shout out for the Levi's twisted engineered shirt. A forgotten classic of the Levi range!

  • @dodpr
    @dodpr2 жыл бұрын

    Cant wait for the SVS Prime Wireless Pro review. I really enjoy your videos.

  • @mbizozo6271
    @mbizozo62712 жыл бұрын

    Love The Fives!

  • @joeldeal9878
    @joeldeal98782 жыл бұрын

    Adding a sub does make quite a difference. The new app is driving me crazy.. before the update I had the system locked in pretty well. After I completed the update yesterday the bass was absolutely out of control and I am still working on it. The app will hold your preferred settings under the custom setup.

  • @FloridaDad
    @FloridaDad Жыл бұрын

    I also noticed the EQ not always retaining my settings. I reached out to Klipsch support and they are working on an update to resolve this. I have these as my PC speakers via USB with a Kanto sub and am very happy. Even though they technically aren't perfect, there is something very satisfying about them. The EQ however is a requirement to help correct some of the low-end mushy tendencies, but then there are some instances where these will outperform my Bang & Olfsons.

  • @tibhen8473

    @tibhen8473

    Жыл бұрын

    i think i have same issue, the EQ goes off when i changed the source, on the phone it is fine because the K app is there, but when i use laptop or TV then the EQ seems to be OFF. Did you find a fix?

  • @radovangoricanec4049

    @radovangoricanec4049

    8 ай бұрын

    Did you solve that problem?

  • @silverspoon3151
    @silverspoon31516 ай бұрын

    Great review, thnx! Do the sevens have the same issues with the base and app “dance”?

  • @uTube00789
    @uTube007892 жыл бұрын

    Klipsch messed up The Fives big time. I tried those, they look amazing, easy connectivity options. They got very "theatrical" sound in that small package. Amazing Bass for their size. You won't need a sub in common situations. The problem is, that Bass is everywhere. To the point vocals are inaudible sometimes. Vocals and fine instruments get very muddy. Depends on mixing of videos as well, but my other speakers handle that same video perfect. Klipsch isn't even putting any efforts into EQ. Their support suggested me to use vocal EQ, and keep an eye for an update. Wow. I returned those. And got Martin Logan 15i. Supper happy with those.

  • @jimr5703
    @jimr5703 Жыл бұрын

    I have my Fives supplied via the optical from the TV. See how that sounds vs the HDMI.

  • @twanshiiit
    @twanshiiit2 жыл бұрын

    Agree with most of what you say. Have had mine for 6 months and for the most part it's largely hit or miss. That being said, subwoofer negates most bass issues, and eARC port has proven very valuable to me.

  • @gluteus0maximus
    @gluteus0maximus Жыл бұрын

    Going back tot he KEF LS50 Wireless II - I have owned the Sixes and now own the KEFs. Although the Klipsch will always present better value for your money, it is more of a "party" speaker, rather than a sit-and-listen system (KEF is an incredible system, even with it's flaws). It's as if the Fives and Sixes are the last hurrah of the old "Pissing off the neighbors since 1946" slogan. And you can hear it when you put the Sixes and the LS50W2 side by side. You get more sound out of the KEF in every song - I did not realize that the intermezzo to Cavalleria Rusticana had an organ for most of the piece until I heard it out of my KEFs, and don't even get me started on staging and imaging. But to have a Formula 1 watching party, the noise and over-the-top loudness of the Sixes would give me everything I want - especially when you attach them to a 12" sub *chef's kiss*. Overall I feel that now, at least for the last iteration of the RP-600M II's or RP-8000F II's, Klipsch is aiming to change their slogan to "Pissing off the HiFi community with how good these speakers are". But for their Sixes and Fives system, it is still the good ol'Klipsch everyone has known. And much like that one lifelong friend everyone has that brings an element of chaos and uncertainty to life, maybe that is not such a terrible thing.

  • @canoeshoe
    @canoeshoe Жыл бұрын

    What was the other speaker compared to The Fives? I dont want a sound bar, i want some TV speakers

  • @sebastianalex7900
    @sebastianalex79002 жыл бұрын

    As always great video! Wonder if the Klipsch Sixes are actually much better than these.

  • @fcm2790
    @fcm2790 Жыл бұрын

    If you get a cheap DAC with tone controls / will improve sound alotttt.. better results

  • @martinaston1715
    @martinaston17152 жыл бұрын

    A good way of improving the klipsch is to px them for Kef LS50 Meta 👍

  • @TheGaber3al
    @TheGaber3al2 жыл бұрын

    I get adds for these on instagram all the time so was curious to see what you thought. I think they'd look really good on an old school liquor cabinet/bar with a turntable in the middle, but for the price they'd need to be freaking flawless. Would def be interested to see other good looking, all-in-ones other brands are putting out. Appreciate the thoughtful review

  • @EquatorialVillager
    @EquatorialVillager2 жыл бұрын

    For someone like me new to this word the adjectives audiophiles use to describe sound are a whole learning experience of themselves 😂. Great video, and liking the approachable review.

  • @manonthemoon4544
    @manonthemoon45442 жыл бұрын

    Try adding a subwoofer.. you'll be pleased with the sound. I have the Klipsch R-100SW 10" Subwoofer.

  • @thunderpooch

    @thunderpooch

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not really. Hooking up a sub saps them of all their bass. The best method is reducing the bass in the eq and hooking up a sub but not with sub out provided on the back of the speaker. Just use another source out to your sub using the original source.

  • @BobFonseca
    @BobFonseca2 жыл бұрын

    John, I have the Fives. For a time in '21 they were $499 at Costco (black only). Any thoughts about plugging the rear ports. I agree with your assessments... but I've enjoyed them more in form factor and in sound (with eq) than any soundbar I've tried at that price. Can't get the wrinkles out of my Forte style grilles however.

  • @JP1050x

    @JP1050x

    2 жыл бұрын

    They still sold for $499 in their warehouse recently. Costco probably needed to clear their stock from xmas ‘21. I’m always tempted to pick up a pair when I see them at Costco.

  • @anik0411
    @anik04112 жыл бұрын

    Hi Darko.Audio(and John), I love your uploads and your attitude towards reviewing audio gear. I give a lot of importance to the stuff you say and feel the same way. I feel these generations of speakers with built in amp and dac are the way to move ahead for enthusiastic music(sometimes tv) listening. Full setups are big and expensive. I wonder if you could review a similar set- q acoustics m20 loudspeaker system. It's very similar to the fives, without the hdmi. I would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks. Anik

  • @jalee1910
    @jalee19102 жыл бұрын

    As a user of The Fives, i do agreed with u that out from the box this speaker bass is kinda too much, after the klipsch connect app is usable for adjusting the EQ it does sound better. But that is still not enough for me, so i try changing the power cable, pair them with a dongle dac plus a ground box. After some tweaking, this speaker does sound great compare to when it is out from the box.

  • @F1fletch

    @F1fletch

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree, the speakers have potential but you need to be creative with setting up and seriously consider sub/s which really help. I also think being away from the wall helped quite a bit.

  • @jalee1910

    @jalee1910

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@F1fletch Actually i plan to pair with a sub too but too bad my space do not allow, this is y i mess around n try to get the best out of this speaker. My speaker is place 30-32cm away from the wall n also i'm using AT6099 insulator feet for the speaker. With this the bass is actually more well control.

  • @filipkrstevski5449
    @filipkrstevski54492 жыл бұрын

    Always check the ac cord polarity to be on the right side or they will sound not so good. And they can have dufferent polarity from one speaker to the other cheers

  • @bfife22
    @bfife222 жыл бұрын

    Can confirm that the new firmware to accommodate the app completely changed my experience with these. Paired with a sub, the bass cut EQ sounded fantastic before the firmware update. Now I run “night mode”, and boost the mids and treble a tad to get them to sound good, and have the speakers set to not auto turn off to keep the EQ settings. I’ll have to mess around and see if I prefer the sound over optical vs HDMI

  • @slyd8r
    @slyd8r2 жыл бұрын

    I also thought that the next speaker will be the LSX 2! Even if not, it would be great at the time of that test to hear a word or two of comparison with the Fives ☺️

  • @Rp-bk7mh
    @Rp-bk7mh2 жыл бұрын

    Well was able to pick a pair of FIVES for( $ 600us) and added a Rel 1510 Sub and that took that congestion of the low-end response away and was surprised by a cleaner mid-range experience without using any of the app settings. Taking some of that bass responsibility away from the speakers. Not sure how you feel about subs, well first this sub is not cheap (@ $1900 us) and secondly it is not a ported sub and really plays well with both music and HT. I did not want my media room cluttered with devices making this a cleaner look.

  • @Crimsonphilosophy
    @Crimsonphilosophy Жыл бұрын

    Anything is better than a soundbar!!

  • @stevoc123
    @stevoc1232 жыл бұрын

    Mine were delivered today, and I’m yet to do the app dance with them.

  • @j.f.johnson7843
    @j.f.johnson78432 жыл бұрын

    I sold my Fives. I was not impressed from the beginning. I was hopeful when the update and Connect app became available but never successfully installed it on my iPhone or iPad. That finalized my decision to sell them.

  • @jalee1910

    @jalee1910

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Fives really don't sounds really good out from the box but if u willing to spend some extra money for tweaking this speaker can sounds pretty darn good.

  • @kowski112
    @kowski1122 жыл бұрын

    I picked up the Fives at Costco, for my purposes, I have been impressed (they were also under $500). Those white grill covers look great, haven't seen them in the US. Bummer!

  • @jalee1910

    @jalee1910

    2 жыл бұрын

    i bought it 2 years back n it cost me $799 but now is under $500 at amazon...with this price is a great deal.

  • @danielrozsa260
    @danielrozsa260 Жыл бұрын

    Would you do a review of The Sevens and The Nines, maybe with a comparison between Burchardt’s A500 and the latter?

  • @TeSp00kie1
    @TeSp00kie12 жыл бұрын

    For something more forward and open than the Dali/Rotel combo I would recommend the Triangle br02 and smsl da9/su9 stack. The sound is very neat and detailed and tight although it is less forgiving to the source quality than the Dali's. It is a very revealing combo without being harsh and it's about the same price.

  • @peterabraham1168
    @peterabraham1168 Жыл бұрын

    I decided not to update the firmware at all. I use Bluetooth only and have added the Wiim Pro.and they are fine.

  • @tebbywafer1665
    @tebbywafer16652 жыл бұрын

    Did John try to use the Roon DSP to equalize for the fives bass response?

  • @gitmobob6266
    @gitmobob62662 жыл бұрын

    I have heard Klipsch speakers from the top of the line to the bottom for over 49 years and never heard a speaker I would want to own, not even close. That goes for every other horn speaker I ever heard. Yes they play loud and clear but never provide that audiophile sound I crave. I played my Focal/JMLabs based home theater for many a Klipsch owner and they left cursing me. Your review upheld my own experiences with that brand of speaker.

  • @HarshalGeet
    @HarshalGeet2 жыл бұрын

    What would be your views on Q Acoustic M20

  • @scruffy8861
    @scruffy88612 жыл бұрын

    Personally, i would have done The Sixes. 6-1/2" woofer vs a 4-1/2" woofer and FR is 40-20,000Hz vs 50-20,000Hz.

  • @nacarp2000

    @nacarp2000

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Sixes have been effectively replaced by The Fives. Unfortunately the app settings for the Sixes are far more limited and there is no way to rid the boomy Bass, at least you have some options with the Fives, such as routing all Bass to a subwoofer.

  • @ceegold2583
    @ceegold25832 жыл бұрын

    I considered the Fives, but ended up with a pair of Klipsch RP-600’s with Bluesound Powernode. Considerably better for many reasons.

  • @alexhofmann5844
    @alexhofmann58442 жыл бұрын

    Somehow I‘m now looking forward to the reviews of the ifi Zen Air Dac and the Argon Solo 😃

  • @alexhofmann5844

    @alexhofmann5844

    2 жыл бұрын

    And in case you are reading this, John: (1) is the ifi worse than the regular Zen Dac in single-ended mode and (2) how does the Argon Solo‘s optical out compare to the - often software-updated - Wiim mini streamer? Thanks in advance! 😉

  • @decky9995
    @decky99952 жыл бұрын

    How about the ultimate upgrade - sock in the port.

  • @bvander131313
    @bvander131313 Жыл бұрын

    Got The Fives some time ago and actually like them as a secondary set. I paired it with a REL T5i Sub and to free them from handling all frequencies really takes them further. Of course you can argue that the REL is almost the price of the Fives but I took the one I originally wanted to use for a 2-Sub setup for my main system which ultimately was too much. Not for me but for my neighbors. ;-) I assume you can achieve similar results with more adequately priced subs. The EQ almost never works for me as the Fives refuse to connect to the Klipsch Connect app for weeks. Probably the most annoying things about them for me.

  • @RB-us6tf

    @RB-us6tf

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly, the firmware/software on The Fives is complete trash.

  • @DaveTheBird
    @DaveTheBird2 жыл бұрын

    Ha never heard it like that (lean back or lean in listener), for good or bad I am definitely a lean back listener :) Great review, really enjoyed it, thanks.

  • @mndlessdrwer
    @mndlessdrwer2 жыл бұрын

    I had a chance to demo some of 'The Fives' and they were just fine. Nothing particularly wrong with them but nothing that stood out as being exceptional either. Their treble was a bit more metallic than I prefer and the bass performance was about what I expected from speakers with that woofer size. All-in-all, you'd be better off with the Jamo S803 and a cheap amplifier or stereo receiver.

  • @Nico-if8mx
    @Nico-if8mx2 жыл бұрын

    Would I buy them again? NO! Stuck with them and made the best out of them, and they now sound pretty good after unning them through a Wiim Mini to a Bifrost 2, and the overall sound improved miles. Bass got more controlled, they used to be boomy as hell, and they now sound quite good! I know this defeats the purpose of an active speaker with built-in DAC, but this setup sounds quite good now (for the price)! Nonetheless, I keep the EQ on -3db of bass (some songs need -4 or even -6db), and everything else flat. Have them with no toe-in, soundstage and imaging is very good! I Use these for music listening as my secondary setup! Have yet to try and connect my sub to them! But I agree with John that the app could be better integrated, and better developed, the Bluetooth keeps disconnecting and, I have to move the eq slider for the speaker to apply the eq again after music stops for a while even if the Bluetooth does not disconnect, this is my worst complaint on the speaker!!! Either my ears are getting used to them or Burn-in is a real thing in these, but they sound quite good now! For 500 USD ... you decide!

  • @bpalpha
    @bpalpha2 жыл бұрын

    A few questions, what's a low board? Can this be controlled from an android or apple tablet as well? And, I thought that any loudspeaker which featured on board amplification was considered a powered speaker.

  • @nickfern8584
    @nickfern85842 жыл бұрын

    What is the speaker pictured just before the ad break at 8.45?

  • @bloodybreaker
    @bloodybreaker2 жыл бұрын

    I use Deezer equalizer directly as I only listen to music via Bluetooth with my fives, I have to set it to -10/12dB lower frequencies and -4/6dB for the second frequencies to be acceptable for my neighbours, the congestion is much acceptable but then the dynamic and lively aspect I searched with Klipsch is altered. Very difficult to set correctly those settings to get something good. I wish you had issued this video when I was hesitating to buy them or the KEFs…

  • @luisphillips818
    @luisphillips8182 жыл бұрын

    Have you had the chance of hearing the r51pm's? How do these compare to the fives. Which one would you recommend? Greetings from Panama

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg10752 жыл бұрын

    Cool

  • @MrYamaha413
    @MrYamaha4132 жыл бұрын

    call me "old style" but in speakers size matters, especially for home HIFI system ;) however they can be improvement over tv build in speakers

  • @dantonchat71
    @dantonchat712 жыл бұрын

    I predict the product arriving in the next few months are the LSX II's !

  • @DarkoAudio

    @DarkoAudio

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nope

  • @kuhenelan
    @kuhenelan2 жыл бұрын

    Shout out to the editor for overlaying the Windows pop-up, dialogue box error message sound to cover the mistake made by John.

  • @kevinreynolds8783
    @kevinreynolds8783Ай бұрын

    I've had these speakers for 2 years. I agree with your review. Unfortunately I can't even get the speakers to connect to WiFi to update the firmware so I haven't been able to adjust the EQ. Another annoyance is sometimes the TV remote doesn't change the volume. Which requires me to have the speaker remote nearby at all times.

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