Hollywood has finally done it - there's nothing left for them to wreck
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@tezzabhoy188811 ай бұрын
They still have a massive desire to ruin Back to the Future
@huro1845
11 ай бұрын
Don't jinx it! 🙏 I hope Zemeckis outlives all of those people who want to touch those movies!
@atomicdancer
11 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, *Back to the Future* . . . Come on, Hollywood - Martina McFly and Doctor Emma Brown . . . DO IT - - - DO IT NAO!!! 😬🤪🥴🙃😵🤡😡😱😧😭😬 🔥🔥 L E T ' S B U R N I T A L L D O W N ! ! 🔥🔥
@mattcolver1
11 ай бұрын
They're drooling over the chance to ruin that franchise.
@Shark-R900
11 ай бұрын
I would never want to see Tom Holland's name all over back to the future
@kokomo74149
11 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly there's an ironclad contract on back to the future stating they can never make another. I don't think that ends when someone dies. Creative property stays with the family at the least. Is there the opportunity to try to manipulate it from the family? Yes but that would take some time. You know there will be numerous family members who want a cut so they would have to go through probate first. Hopefully tying it up until after We're gone. Lol I wouldn't go see it. I'd probably give free viewings of the original movies. Lol
@5roundsrapid26311 ай бұрын
Kathleen wept, for she had no more franchises to ruin…
10 ай бұрын
May the force be with her.
@DreamingDarlin
10 ай бұрын
She's probably saying, "Hold my beer"!
@charlesroyal5125
10 ай бұрын
Biblical
@poiuyt975
10 ай бұрын
She had never been Great though. ;-)
@andrewdiez8353
10 ай бұрын
Hey hey hey! Cheer up Kathy, now someone else can waltz in and.obliterate all your "strong female leads and female legacy characters" ! Ain't payback a bitch?
@5Mariner11 ай бұрын
A note to anyone currently writing their own franchise. NEVER sell the rights to Disney!
@chpsilva
11 ай бұрын
Never lose grip of your intellectual property, actually.
@Crudeliciousbops
11 ай бұрын
@@chpsilvalike Rowling.
@TheOutlando
10 ай бұрын
Tolkien did that in his will, little did he know about Amazon these days. ^^
@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845
10 ай бұрын
Disney won't have any money buy anything soon.
@warrenbradford2597
10 ай бұрын
Nor, any greedy company for that matter. Looking at you Konami! As Clownfish TV said, we must own our own IPs.
@thibaud183211 ай бұрын
How does it feel to have lived long enough to have seen all your favorite franchises go down in flames?
@iqvoice
11 ай бұрын
It feels great!
@Otokichi786
11 ай бұрын
We still have the old stories, books, and DVDs. Let the "fires on the plain" burn on, people will find the oasis of the public library, old book store, etc. Movies and TV aren't the only outlets of imagination.
@VinceLyle2161
11 ай бұрын
Not bad. I watch movies, not franchises, first of all. And like another poster said, there are thousands of movies from the last 90 years that are at least pretty good. I watched one from 1936 that was really entertaining last month.
@dbass9544
10 ай бұрын
@@Otokichi786very much agree. Ironically, its never been easier to NOT watch new content since the old, better content is so readily available.
@NoidoDev
9 ай бұрын
We will see them rise again, either after they'll need the money after the next financial crash or because of AI in the hands of small creators which might even not care about copyright.
@KingEgyptian11 ай бұрын
What makes this all the more painful is that all of these franchises could have still thrived if these filmmakers had an ounce of creativity and passion.
@toddpoppleton5303
11 ай бұрын
Maybe if the filmmakers could just pretend they don’t loathe the fans.
@mrburton8842
11 ай бұрын
They have loads of passion... Just not for films.
@dr.elvis.h.christ
11 ай бұрын
And now those talentless crybabies are on strike! Let them all go! TIme to let some indie artists and producers have a chance.
@lefantomer
11 ай бұрын
@@mrburton8842 Also 4:13: Yes there is, and let them write their own Great Stories, I'm tired of seeing mine ripped off.
@michaelwills1926
10 ай бұрын
It’s an agenda, all this hero stuff has to go. It’s that simple.
@backgroundnoise931011 ай бұрын
Something new will born from this ruin. There's always something else to come along.
@TheGreatSnafoo
11 ай бұрын
I'd like to know what that might be, because Hollywood hasn't been able to come up with anything new in decades, all they've done is; rehash, regurgitate, and reboot old IP's.
@brockglock3035
11 ай бұрын
Maybe they will actually CREATE something???
@mrconroy4672
11 ай бұрын
If it's independent, there may be a chance.
@AdamDj-ic3kr
11 ай бұрын
Yet starring across this barren wasted land I feel new life will be born beneath the bloodstained sand
@nicholastotoro7721
11 ай бұрын
They'll find something. Willow was a stretch, since it really wasn't a hot property when it was new, yet they still ruined it. What's next? They'll just ruin Fraggle Rock or something as meaningless, just for the sake of it.
@teeznyarlathotep870011 ай бұрын
Echo Chamberlain: "There's nothing left to ruin." Hollywood: "Hold my Bud Light."
@alpyki2588
11 ай бұрын
Yep. I remember thinking almost a decade ago, "They're making another Dark Shadows movie? Have they run out of ideas?" Boy was I wrong. They will continue to either remake everything the higher ups remember slightly being a thing, and pilfering from works not already movie properties until nothing of value is left. We're going to see levels in about the next decade or so the likes of which we've never seen. I'm not talking "they've remade Casablanca," levels, I'm talking about "they've remade what? The Abominable Dr. Phibes?" They'll attempt to grab every piece of matter on the way down the hole they dug for themselves, and none of it will be enough to safe Hollywood's bloated mass.
@Dinosreviews11 ай бұрын
To quote The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. “We seem to have reached the age where life stops giving us things and starts taking them away.”
@julianstorm772211 ай бұрын
"Modern cinema has the uncanny feel of watching cosplay, except with the real people" - Chamberlain Great analogy. Thanks for your sane words. Cheers
@dhu1919
11 ай бұрын
It's like shitty fanfics got produced by major Hollywood studios.
@scottsommer984311 ай бұрын
I have three major identifiers to know whether a film will be good or bad. 1. When the writers and director at any point say "this was written for modern audiences." That right there is all I need to hear to know that they are gonna force insert a minority (black, gay, trans, etc. Bonus point if all.) 2. If a known woke actress is gonna be in it. (Pheobe Waller-Bridge comes to mind. She always plays the "strong independant wahmen that treats men like shit.) 3. When talk about diversity ALOT.
@Moolers
8 ай бұрын
Diversity is the number one for me. Not that there's anything wrong with diversity in itself, but when that's all you can talk about, you just know it's going to suck because clearly nothing else was important.
@gnarwhal756210 ай бұрын
Robert Zemeckis has earned a lot of respect from myself and others for vehemently refusing to allow a Back to the Future remake/reboot. It truly is the last untouched gem
@bottlethrower154411 ай бұрын
With great wokeness comes great brokeness 😢
@MegaToonzNetwork
11 ай бұрын
*gives you a bottle*
@MichaelCravith11 ай бұрын
They could have proved everybody wrong on this one by delivering the best possible film. A great sendoff (as though Indiana Jones actually needs one when he already had it 34 years ago, but whatever). Instead, they did exactly what all of us have expected they would since the announcement of the film.
@Allustar
11 ай бұрын
Sideline the namesake of the Indiana Jones series for a bitchy “strong woman” character? (I’m not calling her that because I don’t believe women can be strong. I’m calling her that because she’s just another bad woman protagonist with an incredibly shallow character.)
@lefantomer
11 ай бұрын
@clotshot9459 AND they managed to disrespect the Antikythera device or however you spell it.
@orrorsaness5942
11 ай бұрын
@clotshot9459Indeed! And in the meantime, The Pensuke Files goes against this communist woke nonesense!
@sevenchambers
11 ай бұрын
@clotshot9459True. People don’t realize it’s all apart of the one world government agenda.
@brandonscott5544
11 ай бұрын
HOLLYWOOD PRODUCTS MOVIES AND SHOWS FAILURE GARAGE 🗑
@mamaya31110 ай бұрын
There's going to be an entire generation of kids who grow up without any franchises of their own to latch onto because Hollywood insisted on wasting it's time destroying previous generations' franchises instead. Even as a business model, that's just colossally stupid.
@makhmal177611 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the all female "Godmother". Sooo braaaaave!
@FUh_Que_-
11 ай бұрын
"Look how they massacred my They/Them" 😆😆
@makhmal1776
11 ай бұрын
@@FUh_Que_- 😂😂
@VinceLyle2161
11 ай бұрын
"Frieda, you're my non-binary sibling, but don't ever take sides against our matriarchal, polyamorous familial unit again. Ever."
@VinceLyle2161
11 ай бұрын
I know it was you, Frieda. You broke my heart. You broke my heart.
@hatuletoh11 ай бұрын
I grew up a long-haired, West Coast 90s grunge kid, and at the time, we were accused by some people of being too feminine (it was probably the hair, it's always the hair). But even the most vegan-minded, soy-soaked, neo-hippie pretty boy from the 90s seems like a paragon of raging masculinity compared to Hollywood's current idealized male. Personally, I won't be at all surprised if the ghosts of Cary Grant and Steve McQueen show up to haunt all our asses.
@whothoughthandleswereagoodidea
11 ай бұрын
That's because Hollywood's idealized male is a woman
@gsp6517
11 ай бұрын
I'm terribly sorry, but I don't take most of the complaints about the "pussyfication" of society seriously, especially considering how most of the men (yes, men) behind them aren't exacly models of masculinity themselves.
@iBloodxHunter
10 ай бұрын
@@gsp6517lol what an interesting way to tell everybody that you're an idiot. I would have chosen a different way, something other than going "this is fine" in a housefire but eh.
@irresponsiblyblue1411
10 ай бұрын
@@gsp6517 Good show. If you can't argue against the message, you can always attack the messenger.
@gsp6517
10 ай бұрын
@@irresponsiblyblue1411 Most people who argue said "message" do so by attacking others appearances, so what's the point?
@lance13467911 ай бұрын
I have to hand it to them. They knew their mission and carried it out completely, destroying all our favourite old legacy characters. Now they can sit on their throne of ashes.
@lodrezzon11 ай бұрын
You finally described current Hollywood perfectly; strip mining! These people suck the last value out of any property they acquire, not intending to continue building a quality product for future consumption, but to extract any value / monetization from an existing show or franchise, based on the nostalgia value the property still possesses; properties they had no hand in creating. I wouldn't mind it if they declared that was their intention, but the endless interviews and red carpet faunings about how these 'creators' are so excited about their modern interpretations of these classic characters, and all the new diversity and inclusion these updated stories contain to reach a wider audience, sickens me. These people have no talent, no creativity, no vision, and no soul. We live in the world of glorified fan fiction, where these awkward, socially inept writers place narrative surrogates of themselves into iconic stories, so that they can feel cool too despite having no place in the story. A kind of narrative stolen valor; like getting your picture taken with discount Chewie or Greedo at a Disney Star Wars photo-op. Anyone with a 100 IQ can be taught to write a sentence, but to be a Tolkien, Lucas, or Hemmingway requires more. In the race for the next viral hit, studios are literally throwing billions of dollars at the walls trying to find talent, rather than just sitting back and seeing where true cinematic innovation is coming from and nurturing it. And we, the audience, are their unlucky test bed. PS: You, Mauler, and It'saGundam need a live stream. The general cast of characters (Nerdrotic, Doomcock, etc) are mildly entertaining, but they tend to spend their time making fun of everything rather than offering any real solutions or analysis. I'd hire all 3 of you for my writer's room if I had a studio, since it's endearing to hear the shared pain in your voices when you talk of the destruction of our childhood inspirations.
Echo joins Critical Drinker every now and then but - as he's a modest, and self-effacing chap - frequently gets talked over by blowhards with the same set of a dozen talking points.
@lodrezzon
10 ай бұрын
@@mxvega1097 Seems similar to Mauler.
@DEWwords
10 ай бұрын
Bullseye
@cameronjones8641
9 ай бұрын
Great comment!
@Hibernicus196811 ай бұрын
Regarding the point toward the end of the video about the inability of modern screenwriters to write compelling male characters... I think the number one problem here is the limited life experience of those screenwriters. I would bet real money that the typical bio of a Hollywood screenwriter today consists of growing up in an upper middle class or wealthier home, going to a university and majoring in the liberal arts, possibly going to film school, then interning on the staff of some TV series or other, or somewhere else in the entertainment industry, and then working their way up to their present positions. Contrast that with the generation of writers around when the original Star Trek was on the air. Gene Roddenberry had been a bomber pilot during WWII, and had worked as a Los Angeles police officer for a while post-war while he was trying to break into the writing business. Star Trek TOS producer Gene L. Coon had been a marine during WWII and Korea (though he didn't see combat in WWII IIRC). Twilight Zone creator Rod Serling had been a paratrooper in the Pacific Theater during WWII. Donald Wilson, co-creator of Doctor Who had served in WWII with the Cameronians and the 43rd Wessex Division. _Mel Brooks_ was a combat veteran, having been a combat engineer in the ETO during WWII. Moving to a bit later, Oliver Stone was a Vietnam War veteran. Going back a bit further, J.R.R. Tolkien had served in combat in the trenches during WWI, before he went on to become a scholar of genuine note in his field. These men, and lots of others of their respective generations had a hell of a lot more, and a lot more varied life experience than most of the TV and movie script writers of today, who only know the world outside the entertainment industry from what they read, and what they watch on a screen. I think a lot of that difference shows in their writing.
@Thomasmemoryscentral
11 ай бұрын
Even some of children's book authors can have some great stories of year creation. Wilbert Awdry wrote the first few stories of the railway series as a means of entertaining his 8 year old son Christopher one day sick with measles in bed. Brian Jacques created the first Redwall book as a story for blind children at a school with a world they could immerse themselves in
@19eightyforeisnow
11 ай бұрын
@@Thomasmemoryscentralwasn't watership down written or made up for the authors daughters before it became a novel?
@MediumRareOpinions
11 ай бұрын
I'll add another name. Roald dahl was an RAF pilot before going on to write children's books.
@tool2158
11 ай бұрын
Sure, this is a valid point. Stil they also lack creativity and imagination independent of their life experience. I think the lack of imagination and creativity is the bigger issue. You can lead a dull life and potentially still come up with fantastic ideas, let’s not pretend that this isn’t possible. But our current world has eliminated our imagination.
@nickcasale2767
11 ай бұрын
Finally a solution to bad movies, all we need is another world war
@eraserhead619811 ай бұрын
I think what’s most insulting and aggravating is there’s never any palpable change that comes from their own failures. They’re just rewarded more and more projects.
@johnlhuet535811 ай бұрын
It's kind of amazing that many people still care about movies and tv shows. Breaking from the Hollywood spell is a luxury only a few can afford..
@5dmkiii6011 ай бұрын
The revised budget estimate for the Fleabag girl boss movie is $329 Million after reshoots. Not $295 Million. Ad spending was estimated to be $100 million, $50 million less than usual for a movie this big because Disney Marketing thought it was going to flop and didn't want to burn more money to promote what they already knew was going to be a flop. It cost $429 MILLION to get this movie in theaters. That means this movie will have to make close to $900 Million just to break even for Disney, after the distributors and theaters take their cut of 50% of gross ticket sales. Figure $20 million for Harrison Ford alone, plus whatever percentage of gross he managed to get on top of that and you get the drift. This movie is going to lose more money than any other movie in history. Well done Kathleen Kennedy!!! She is the "gift" that keeps losing billions for Disney. Add the $2 BILLION investment lost in HER Galactic F up, Starcruiser idea and killing Star Wars and the Indy Jones franchises' and it makes her the single most expensive, money losing employee in the world's history of employment. I hope she stays with Disney until they file for Chapter 11. She will almost single handedly be the reason they will need to file for it. The poisonous brilliance of KK is hard to overstate. She will have nearly killed Disney, will have been personally responsible for losing Disney BILLIONS of dollars, and when fired, will get a, "Just go away" payout of around $30 Million just to get rid of her, after she DESTROYED everything she set out to destroy. That, there, is genius. She will go down as the single most costly and destructive "employee" in human, employment history. That is an amazing accomplishment. She truly is the Sith Lord of Hollywood. Palpatine would be proud.
@davisdenver6756
11 ай бұрын
The reason Disney keeps Kathleen Kennedy around is because it's not about the money. It's about pushing the message.
@DonDiego1973
4 ай бұрын
Wishful thinking. Disney is so unbelievably big, it can afford to go on like this for many years to come. It'll have to tighten the purse strings, yes, but it will not go bankrupt, its market share and brand recognition (yes, the casuals don't care that what's being poured in their troughs is shit) are way too big. There IS a first, though: For the first time ever Disney put in their Securities and Exchange Commission report that they will continue to pursue their "social goals" at the expense of making profit. A multi-billion company is saying that they will happily LOSE money as long as they can keep furthering their ideology.
@5dmkiii60
4 ай бұрын
@@DonDiego1973 So true. Iger has NO intention of, "dialing down the heat on social issues." He's the architect of Disney's dive into leftist social engineering. Just look at the new Rey movie and who they hired to direct it? Iger OK'd that and Kennedy is doubling down on the, "Force is Feminist" and very anti male, BS. Both Iger and Kennedy KNOW this movie will fail utterly, but they don't care. They only care about..."THE MESSAGE." Only thing that's going to stop Disney's further descent into woke madness is if Peltz and Perlmutter get on the Board and oust Disney's chief wokie....IGER.
@torbenkristiansen274211 ай бұрын
If the goal was to keep people away from the cinema, it sure worked. Was a huge fan of most of these franchises. Now there is no feeling. Breath is just a clock.
@Finwaell
10 ай бұрын
just pick your movies carefully. Last year Northman and Drive my Car and Top Gun were awesome. you don't need to be at the cinema 3 times a week. read a (good) book rather.
@PJKP8211 ай бұрын
Back to the Future, Mission: Impossible, Top Gun, Babylon 5, Firefly, John Wick, Metal Gear Solid... plenty left!
@jneilson7568
11 ай бұрын
There's a contract protecting Back to the Future, for now anyway, but I'm sure it's coming even if it's an unnecessary prequel that'll feel far more childish than the early 1990s cartoon spinoff.
@mr.sinjin-smyth
11 ай бұрын
Back to Future is safe for another 20 years, then watch Zemeckis' family give in to greed just like that of J.R.R. Tolkien's grandchildren.
@satazs619511 ай бұрын
There is one last franchise left. Back to the Future. It's been safe so far because the creators (Bob Gale and Robert Zemeckis) refuse to sell the rights. But just you wait 10-15 years until they die of old age (they are 71) and whoever gets the rights after will sell them to Disney or Amazon or whoever. The same thing that happened with Tolkien and LOTR.
@choreomaniac11 ай бұрын
Dune. Bladerunner. Top Gun. Karate Kid. All successful reboots of a beloved franchise. What do they have in common? An obvious familiarity of the source material and reverence for it. And a respect of the fan base. A desire to “do right” by the source material. No one was really clamoring for them. We didn’t need them. But that’s why they had to be good. They couldn’t be just a cash grab. There is some nostalgia. Some fan service but it was primarily a deeper exploration, a reconnection a character study performed by people who liked the character.
@harbl9911 ай бұрын
"Bastion of masculinity Paul Feige [...] and imposing alpha male Alex Kurtzman." You have no idea how many time I had to rewatch that section to catch the names and descriptors of all those Hollywood ultra-giga-chads. Well done Echo.
@josh_hugo11 ай бұрын
This (like so much else that is happening today) was specifically predicted in "Atlas Shrugged." In it, popular artists, lacking any principles or convictions to inspire them, run out of ideas and begin producing inferior copies of the previous generation's work instead.
@VinceLyle2161
11 ай бұрын
And pushing legislation limiting how many copies can be made, so the incompetent can't be eclipsed by the great.
@smasome11 ай бұрын
Excellent. My feelings exactly. Only more beautifully phrased. Thank you.
@luchomscyfy11 ай бұрын
"How do you feel to live long enough to see your favorite franchises go down in flames?" - RedLetterMedia
@FatNorthernBigot11 ай бұрын
If Star Wars was breakfast, Rey would be Bran Flakes. It's supposed to be good for us, but we all want the bacon sandwich that is Han Solo.
@danielcohn-bendit701
11 ай бұрын
I do lov a bacon sandwich.
@old_newbie949811 ай бұрын
Well said. That clip of the Star Wars brainstorming session, and the list they came up with on the whiteboard, is the perfect single snapshot that...nobody in charge of these woke remakes/sequels have any clue about what made these shows the icons they were or why the fans were drawn to it.
@d3l3tes00n
11 ай бұрын
There's nothing "woke." lol No one likes these movies
@ltb1345
11 ай бұрын
@@d3l3tes00n They are woke, that's why no one likes them.
@xaviyuh465310 ай бұрын
Dated this one girl who genuinely got excited for remakes with identity politics in it and she would deem those who did not enjoy them to be awful people. Turns out she was just as bad as the people she was demonizing
@jonmichaelgalindo11 ай бұрын
I'm re-reading LoTR for the first time since HS, and these are some really good books! :-)
@richardmcgowan165111 ай бұрын
I hope it all just keeps going. Disney is losing so much money that even Blackrock cant keep up with the money being wasted.
@sterling711 ай бұрын
The overwhelming feeling I get from most of the franchise-ruinings described is that their creators believe an audience is something they deserve, not something they have to earn. Despite all their protestations, they *aren't* reflecting the modern world; they're reflecting one where behaving as they do and believing what they do, alone, gets their characters respect and success. They don't need to change, struggle, compromise; the world ought to change around them.
@Cougelly1999
11 ай бұрын
I see the sense in this, for some time it felt like something was wrong, wondering where this was going, wanting more, being dissatisfied, pointlessness, sadness. It is an unfortunate state of affairs which needs fixing.
@jskywalker58
11 ай бұрын
trust me if someone made a movie that ACTUALLY reflect the world we now live now those same people would being throwing a tantrum and do everything they could to cancel it
@urbanstarship11 ай бұрын
They are desperate to get their hands on "Back to the Future"
@mattcolver111 ай бұрын
"The Age Of Ersatz Entertainment". What a great line.
@Andrew_TS11 ай бұрын
"How does it feel to live long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames?"
@BiggieTrismegistus
11 ай бұрын
I love that Rich Evans quote because it was about Star Trek, something that's near and dear to my heart too. Another wonderful Evansism is when he called what Kurtzman and pals did to Star Trek "secular blasphemy".
@davehandelman28325 ай бұрын
Elemental ROCKS!!! One of the GREATEST love stories of the year!!!
@benwest322311 ай бұрын
Pessimist: This can't possibly get any worse. Optimist: Oh yes it can!
@MegaToonzNetwork
11 ай бұрын
Ben West: Well I guess it's.....HERO TIME!!!!!
@Salad_ass11 ай бұрын
"For I am become Death. Destroyer of Franchises." - Kathleen Kennedy
@VinceLyle2161
11 ай бұрын
Ironic, since Oppenheimer is opening this week...
@markadler896811 ай бұрын
I think internet/social media is also the downfall of most modern movies with progressive content. There is simply no hiding whether a movie is garbage or not. People also tend to boycott most movies once they have been disappointed a few times, especially from large franchises. It has gotten to the point where a lot of people today get more satisfaction watching a movie fail than actually going to the theatre to view it.
@apexoldguy
11 ай бұрын
yeah youtubers and critics have only made things worse!
@markadler8968
11 ай бұрын
@@apexoldguy How so? Are people not allowed to have an opinion or are they just allowed one when it aligns with your narrative? Good movies will be successful despite any opinions/content from critics. The fact is that most movies/entertainment today fail because people are tired of having woke ideologies ingrained in everything. If they made movies people actually liked we would watch them but instead they force their agenda on people and we are tired of it.
@autisticlegionnaire3624
11 ай бұрын
@@apexoldguy Quite the opposite. KZreadrs have given a voice to moviegoers concerns
@Anna-ht7xx
11 ай бұрын
None of these things are the problem with the film industry. The problem with the film industry is the fact that it's an industry, any human artform wether movies, books, music, you name it, gets it's creativity sucked out when it becomes an industry since our capitalistic system doesn't value creativity, it values profits. And when things that are supposed to be art get produced for no other reason other than profit, it becomes soulless and you lose the magic of the artform.
@markadler8968
11 ай бұрын
@@Anna-ht7xx That might be a part of why these movies are failing miserably but what about movies like Top Gun 2 and the new Avatar? They both avoided woke content and did extremely well at the box office. You are completely dismissing peoples opinions/values and their impact on their decision to watch a movie or not. Also if movies are an industry and value profit over everything why are they making the conscious decision to include this content when they know people despise it? To deny that these ideologies are not having an impact on movie attendance is denying reality.
@hariman772711 ай бұрын
Independent productions still make good and great stories, movies, and such. Edit: Hollywood is ignoring at least 2 generations of great books they could adapt to movies.
@TheCatWatches11 ай бұрын
We have only one left. We must protect the Shrek Franchise at all costs!
@MediumRareOpinions
11 ай бұрын
They announced live action How to Train your Dragon complete with race swap casting. They'll come for Shrek next. It's gone, the cause is lost.
@caligulapontifex5759
11 ай бұрын
Back to the Future as well
@projimbo11 ай бұрын
You have succinctly told the truth sir. I salute you 😊
@motaman807411 ай бұрын
Spot on. Exceptional essay.
@jimsteinmanfan8011 ай бұрын
The writer of Enola Holmes where Enola replaces her brother Sherlock have also written about Rowan Hood, the daughter of Robin Hood. If paid well she is likely to be willing to write about women near King Arthur, Hercules and all other male heroes, just like they recently did with Peter Pan and WENDY. There is probably plenty left to ruin.
@steveswafen252811 ай бұрын
Echo's vocal & music edits are always an added bonus 🤘
@neji66711 ай бұрын
There's always more to ruin, don't worry!!
@El_Andru
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, the thing is, hopefully more and more people will start to care less. So something with actual substance will be appreciated eventually. Its sad, but at the same time its good. Its just evolution of things.
@FUh_Que_-
11 ай бұрын
Flintstones soon and I can see them ruining Gilligan's Island, Greatest American Hero and more... like a junkie rummaging through old things to see what they can sell, they will ruin more
@gregmize0111 ай бұрын
"Wow, mr sarcasm." 😂😂😂😂
@aurawolf222111 ай бұрын
I have ONE piece of entertainment that I still enjoy.... The Orville, That hasn't yet been ruined!
@fattiger6957
11 ай бұрын
I dunno about that. From what I watched of it, Season 3 was awful. I despise that new young female character they added. She was the definition of "strong female character", almost like the studio mandated she be shoehorned in.
@aurawolf2221
11 ай бұрын
@@fattiger6957 you mean Ensign Burke? I dunno I personally thought they handled her character pretty well, particularly when Ed mentioned her having "a monopoly on grief" I always saw that as a dig at these types of people who let their feelings run their lives, & I appreciate the fact that despite being a lesbian character, it wasn't obvious or pushed on the viewer.
@BiggieTrismegistus
11 ай бұрын
Once you get past the first few rough episodes _Star Trek: Lower Decks_ gets good and stays that way. It's *easily* the best thing to come out of this NuTrek era.
@aurawolf2221
11 ай бұрын
@@BiggieTrismegistus I was actually gonna consider watching that but I just never got round to it.
@AngryMinkey11 ай бұрын
Back to the Future is the last one standing.. They need to hide that inside the arc of the covenant to protect it
@benfisher9968
11 ай бұрын
It’s safe whilst Robert Zemeckis is alive
@tdog5035
11 ай бұрын
I hope zemeckis puts the rights into some kind of unbreakable 100 year trust so his family can't get greedy and sell it to the highest bidder like the Tolkien family did.
@mr.sinjin-smyth
11 ай бұрын
It's good for another 20 years before Zemeckis' family likely gives in to greed very much like that of J.R.R. Tolkien's grandchildren.
@PeterDivine11 ай бұрын
It's funny. I was always contemptuous of the flop of the Black Cauldron movie being the only cinematic legacy of Lloyd Alexander's excellent Bildungsroman series in the Chronicles of Prydain. With some careful planning and pacing, there is absolutely grounds there to make it into another Harry Potter, just with less magic casting and more swordplay/character development. I now just quietly pray it stays dead so no one gets the idea to defile it.
@Thomasmemoryscentral
11 ай бұрын
Sometimes I wonder if Brian Jacques is lucky that Redwall never picked up much success on TV because Hollywood cant ruin something that while decently successful for a cartoon adaption is kind of a niche thing. Netflix bought the book rights in 2019 and brought on Patrick McHale to write a script to complete but never proceeded farther than that. Hopefully they wont mess it up
@jesweat0327
11 ай бұрын
I don't even want to consider what they would do to Taran and Eilonwy.
@alpyki2588
11 ай бұрын
Thats how I am with nearly anything, even if its something I like in bad taste. When the one thing you are excited to return is Subspecies, then something is fundamentally wrong with the entertainment landscape.
@crackdbrain3411 ай бұрын
The sadness of the realisation that everything you have said here is true, is only outweighed by the way in which you convey your points. Thankyou again for your work.
@ralphthewrecker30211 ай бұрын
Thank you for making a video that encapsulates how I feel. It wasn’t until Indy just came out that I finally realized we have all been duped so much like a frog in a pot with the heat slowly being turned up… in that cultural appropriation had just one target left: the strong white male lead character. Once we replace all those as we have now, the world will be free of oppression. No, not really? The last decade we have seen the weakest writing possible from what used to be a pinnacle of the worlds cinema- all for the goal of cultural equity. Well, if anyone needs a further example of how that looks in cinema, as you said; I don’t know what’s left for KK to ruin.
@chadakoin111 ай бұрын
All we have left is Idiocracy and The Room.
@VinceLyle2161
11 ай бұрын
Where the hell is the next Tommy Wisseau masterpiece?
@JoJoJoker11 ай бұрын
The goal is to get paid a lot of money to break things. The writers don’t care about corporate profits or box office revenue. They have been very successful in achieving this goal.
@estel533511 ай бұрын
“From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring
@Se7nom11 ай бұрын
There's still "Back to the Future", (un?)fortunately shielded with Robert Zemeckis's life. When he dies, it's hunting season. 😭
@lemond200711 ай бұрын
Disney: There is PLENTY left to ruin. We're just getting started.
@tylergoodman356011 ай бұрын
Thank you for saying this. I don't know when, but one day, the high-ups at Hollywood will find out that identity politics has no business in movies. 😢🎉
@andrewparker184711 ай бұрын
Doctor who was the one that hurt the most for me, over 50 years of hard work just flushed down the toilet. It would've been better if the show had never come back.
@floydfanboy294811 ай бұрын
Hollywood is dead. No tears are shed. Let it rot.
@MBP191811 ай бұрын
It could very well be the end of the traditional big budget cinema films tbh
@paulomendonca33011 ай бұрын
They won't stop.... they want to erase all those "toxic masculinity success" that we all used to admire, with "toxic feminisms failures" forcing us all to watch our beloved characters, worlds and stories, die melancholy
@capo4ever33411 ай бұрын
You forgot the academy award nominated “call me by your name”
@SteveCossaboom5 ай бұрын
SO excellent!!!!
@loganford392111 ай бұрын
The only thing that they haven't ruin is Karate Kid. I think they did great with the Cobrai Kai comeback unlike the recent Star Wars movies.
@TheUnitedDrills11 ай бұрын
Nothing Left to Ruin? 🤔 But Wait, There’s More! 😂
@indianastones603211 ай бұрын
Truer words have not be spoken!!
@harryv675210 ай бұрын
You totally had me at Never Ending Story. Totally rad! 🤟
@brooks789411 ай бұрын
You are a god to me. Obsessed with your brilliant, honest and desperately needed content. Thank you, Echo!
@policesquad
11 ай бұрын
Translation: Heart me daddy.
@blodiaaa6990
11 ай бұрын
Pause
@kurtisrobertson215111 ай бұрын
Good wiil come from this. Good storys, good characters, good writers, after destruction on such a catastrophic scale there can only be time to rebuild and build better.
@chpsilva11 ай бұрын
They can't touch Back to the Future. Thanks, Mr. Zemeckis.
@MatsubaAgeha10 ай бұрын
6:38~ "There's nothing left to DECONSTRUCT, to STRIP-MINE..." (Exactly; brilliant summary!)
@sabatheus10 ай бұрын
This video is a masterclass evaluation of the current state of Hollywood. It really has become a cartoon of itself-with the Velma example being most apt. What’s happening with Lucasfilm and Pixar at Disney should be a clarion call for the rest of the industry. We, as viewers, just want good stories, well told. We don’t want to be preached to or told what terrible people we are.
@douglassmolens145511 ай бұрын
I laughed out loud several times. Good writing.
@northshore100010 ай бұрын
I just happily subscribed to your channel. Most happily!! You’re speaking for us! Thank you!!!
@hagerty195210 ай бұрын
Marvelous, succinct summary! Thank you!
@thomasreynolds381911 ай бұрын
It's amazing, I was just thinking the same thing. At this point, I don't really care what does well and what flops even. I'll probably check in to see if The Marvels flops at the box office for a good laugh, but after that I'll be completely checked out. I'll probably stop watching review KZread channels as well. The only thing I really care about are old movies and when it comes to that, I think I've seen all the masterpieces already. Maybe I'll get back into reading. I've been meaning to do that for a while.
@Mr.Goodkat
11 ай бұрын
There's no way in hell you've seen all the masterpieces, there is an endless back catalogue of great films, nobody has seen all the great ones, *nobody*.
@thomasreynolds3819
11 ай бұрын
@@Mr.Goodkat When it comes to the movies that you "Must watch before you die" I've seen most of them. You're right that there's probably a ton of underrated or undiscovered movies that are brilliant which I haven't seen, but I try not to lose sleep over that because I could never possibly see every movie in my lifetime.
@Mr.Goodkat
11 ай бұрын
@@thomasreynolds3819 It's feasible to see every great one though, I just think what prevents people is effort, the time it takes to find them and not knowing where to look, nobody ever said anything about seeing every film in your lifetime, sure tons of them aren't even worth seeing.
@JR-ej9up11 ай бұрын
This is why we need actors. Stars we go see. Not film brands from corporate. Controlled. But the actors are woke as hell too so you're screwed with that as well.
@Dave.666.11 ай бұрын
"No.... There is another."
@AbrasiousProductions5 ай бұрын
this is why I almost always only watch classic films.
@DeistPaladin11 ай бұрын
Here's a wild idea. Bare with me because I don't know if it's been done before. How about have the legacy, beloved, well-established hero who's now old and due to be replaced by a younger, new hero, how about we have them in the wise mentor role. He recognizes the talent in the younger hero and teaches her what he's learned over the years. He trains her in whatever it is the hero in this IP does (be a Jedi or whatever). She struggles at first, we do a montage with some music in the background, both get frustrated but she picks herself up and shows determination. By the end of the arc, the audience we accept the replacement because she's earned her way while properly respecting the legacy hero that paved the way.
@metronome8471
11 ай бұрын
creed was s0 g00d
@dmomintz11 ай бұрын
2016 to 2023 will be known as the affirmative action era of film.
@jbsentinel11 ай бұрын
Serendipitous scroller 😂 bloody love that
@michaellee881510 ай бұрын
“Rock-jawed Kevin feige” hahahahha yes
@Grim211 ай бұрын
There's Back to the Future. Though thankfully THAT is currently under protection of its creators who are against any reboot attempts.
@teastrainer3604
11 ай бұрын
They'd send woke modern people to the past to enlighten those folks.
@Anthonydavis65
11 ай бұрын
Lets hope that stays but i wouldnt put it past them to try
@SaturmornCarvilli11 ай бұрын
Something I've always wondered about is if there is any military veteran Hollywood writers on staff at these places. I mean, the U.S. has been at war for a quarter-century, and the military is a culture unto itself. And these places want diversity, right? So, it makes sense that action-oriented IPs looking for diversity would actively seek out veterans. If not directly, those to have firsthand experience with who have been in war. And while everyone is different, I have a hard time believing a military veteran or adjacent who also has the moxie to be a writer wouldn't have an intimate understanding of values that seem devoid in these stories.
@hyper2high11 ай бұрын
Well said sir👍
@phillipwee36314 ай бұрын
This is some AMAZING writing! Your perspective is truthsaying, very refreshing.
@squarepickle11 ай бұрын
That's when Hollywood realized... They hadn't made Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent gay black women. 😂
@Icspiders24711 ай бұрын
Loved cross of iron. James Coburn was a great actor. Loved the film so much I even picked up the original book. It was also great.
@thanelewis889310 ай бұрын
30 years ago I first heard the phrase “Disneyfication of America” used to describe how all of America was being Turned into a bland, fake, uniformly commercial theme park location. Who knew this was going to be the fate of every piece of “entertainment” today?
@CinnamonGrrlErin111 ай бұрын
Don't speak too soon, there's still Alien: Romulus and a new Planet of the Apes movie ahead
@credibilityproblem825011 ай бұрын
They're going to start digging deep for things to ruin, maybe films like Flight of the Navigator or Goonies
@dr.winstonsmith11 ай бұрын
Chronicles of Narnia is next, to be directed by Gerta Gerwig. There’s still a lot left to ruin. They’ll remake Casablanca at some point in order to ruin it.
@rgaleny10 ай бұрын
" they first robbed me, then lost all the money. ah, the hubris." I really am a shmuck!
@thenapalmbrothershq558511 ай бұрын
Art shouldn't primarily be educational or political.
Пікірлер: 1 000
They still have a massive desire to ruin Back to the Future
@huro1845
11 ай бұрын
Don't jinx it! 🙏 I hope Zemeckis outlives all of those people who want to touch those movies!
@atomicdancer
11 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, *Back to the Future* . . . Come on, Hollywood - Martina McFly and Doctor Emma Brown . . . DO IT - - - DO IT NAO!!! 😬🤪🥴🙃😵🤡😡😱😧😭😬 🔥🔥 L E T ' S B U R N I T A L L D O W N ! ! 🔥🔥
@mattcolver1
11 ай бұрын
They're drooling over the chance to ruin that franchise.
@Shark-R900
11 ай бұрын
I would never want to see Tom Holland's name all over back to the future
@kokomo74149
11 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly there's an ironclad contract on back to the future stating they can never make another. I don't think that ends when someone dies. Creative property stays with the family at the least. Is there the opportunity to try to manipulate it from the family? Yes but that would take some time. You know there will be numerous family members who want a cut so they would have to go through probate first. Hopefully tying it up until after We're gone. Lol I wouldn't go see it. I'd probably give free viewings of the original movies. Lol
Kathleen wept, for she had no more franchises to ruin…
10 ай бұрын
May the force be with her.
@DreamingDarlin
10 ай бұрын
She's probably saying, "Hold my beer"!
@charlesroyal5125
10 ай бұрын
Biblical
@poiuyt975
10 ай бұрын
She had never been Great though. ;-)
@andrewdiez8353
10 ай бұрын
Hey hey hey! Cheer up Kathy, now someone else can waltz in and.obliterate all your "strong female leads and female legacy characters" ! Ain't payback a bitch?
A note to anyone currently writing their own franchise. NEVER sell the rights to Disney!
@chpsilva
11 ай бұрын
Never lose grip of your intellectual property, actually.
@Crudeliciousbops
11 ай бұрын
@@chpsilvalike Rowling.
@TheOutlando
10 ай бұрын
Tolkien did that in his will, little did he know about Amazon these days. ^^
@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845
10 ай бұрын
Disney won't have any money buy anything soon.
@warrenbradford2597
10 ай бұрын
Nor, any greedy company for that matter. Looking at you Konami! As Clownfish TV said, we must own our own IPs.
How does it feel to have lived long enough to have seen all your favorite franchises go down in flames?
@iqvoice
11 ай бұрын
It feels great!
@Otokichi786
11 ай бұрын
We still have the old stories, books, and DVDs. Let the "fires on the plain" burn on, people will find the oasis of the public library, old book store, etc. Movies and TV aren't the only outlets of imagination.
@VinceLyle2161
11 ай бұрын
Not bad. I watch movies, not franchises, first of all. And like another poster said, there are thousands of movies from the last 90 years that are at least pretty good. I watched one from 1936 that was really entertaining last month.
@dbass9544
10 ай бұрын
@@Otokichi786very much agree. Ironically, its never been easier to NOT watch new content since the old, better content is so readily available.
@NoidoDev
9 ай бұрын
We will see them rise again, either after they'll need the money after the next financial crash or because of AI in the hands of small creators which might even not care about copyright.
What makes this all the more painful is that all of these franchises could have still thrived if these filmmakers had an ounce of creativity and passion.
@toddpoppleton5303
11 ай бұрын
Maybe if the filmmakers could just pretend they don’t loathe the fans.
@mrburton8842
11 ай бұрын
They have loads of passion... Just not for films.
@dr.elvis.h.christ
11 ай бұрын
And now those talentless crybabies are on strike! Let them all go! TIme to let some indie artists and producers have a chance.
@lefantomer
11 ай бұрын
@@mrburton8842 Also 4:13: Yes there is, and let them write their own Great Stories, I'm tired of seeing mine ripped off.
@michaelwills1926
10 ай бұрын
It’s an agenda, all this hero stuff has to go. It’s that simple.
Something new will born from this ruin. There's always something else to come along.
@TheGreatSnafoo
11 ай бұрын
I'd like to know what that might be, because Hollywood hasn't been able to come up with anything new in decades, all they've done is; rehash, regurgitate, and reboot old IP's.
@brockglock3035
11 ай бұрын
Maybe they will actually CREATE something???
@mrconroy4672
11 ай бұрын
If it's independent, there may be a chance.
@AdamDj-ic3kr
11 ай бұрын
Yet starring across this barren wasted land I feel new life will be born beneath the bloodstained sand
@nicholastotoro7721
11 ай бұрын
They'll find something. Willow was a stretch, since it really wasn't a hot property when it was new, yet they still ruined it. What's next? They'll just ruin Fraggle Rock or something as meaningless, just for the sake of it.
Echo Chamberlain: "There's nothing left to ruin." Hollywood: "Hold my Bud Light."
@alpyki2588
11 ай бұрын
Yep. I remember thinking almost a decade ago, "They're making another Dark Shadows movie? Have they run out of ideas?" Boy was I wrong. They will continue to either remake everything the higher ups remember slightly being a thing, and pilfering from works not already movie properties until nothing of value is left. We're going to see levels in about the next decade or so the likes of which we've never seen. I'm not talking "they've remade Casablanca," levels, I'm talking about "they've remade what? The Abominable Dr. Phibes?" They'll attempt to grab every piece of matter on the way down the hole they dug for themselves, and none of it will be enough to safe Hollywood's bloated mass.
To quote The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. “We seem to have reached the age where life stops giving us things and starts taking them away.”
"Modern cinema has the uncanny feel of watching cosplay, except with the real people" - Chamberlain Great analogy. Thanks for your sane words. Cheers
@dhu1919
11 ай бұрын
It's like shitty fanfics got produced by major Hollywood studios.
I have three major identifiers to know whether a film will be good or bad. 1. When the writers and director at any point say "this was written for modern audiences." That right there is all I need to hear to know that they are gonna force insert a minority (black, gay, trans, etc. Bonus point if all.) 2. If a known woke actress is gonna be in it. (Pheobe Waller-Bridge comes to mind. She always plays the "strong independant wahmen that treats men like shit.) 3. When talk about diversity ALOT.
@Moolers
8 ай бұрын
Diversity is the number one for me. Not that there's anything wrong with diversity in itself, but when that's all you can talk about, you just know it's going to suck because clearly nothing else was important.
Robert Zemeckis has earned a lot of respect from myself and others for vehemently refusing to allow a Back to the Future remake/reboot. It truly is the last untouched gem
With great wokeness comes great brokeness 😢
@MegaToonzNetwork
11 ай бұрын
*gives you a bottle*
They could have proved everybody wrong on this one by delivering the best possible film. A great sendoff (as though Indiana Jones actually needs one when he already had it 34 years ago, but whatever). Instead, they did exactly what all of us have expected they would since the announcement of the film.
@Allustar
11 ай бұрын
Sideline the namesake of the Indiana Jones series for a bitchy “strong woman” character? (I’m not calling her that because I don’t believe women can be strong. I’m calling her that because she’s just another bad woman protagonist with an incredibly shallow character.)
@lefantomer
11 ай бұрын
@clotshot9459 AND they managed to disrespect the Antikythera device or however you spell it.
@orrorsaness5942
11 ай бұрын
@clotshot9459Indeed! And in the meantime, The Pensuke Files goes against this communist woke nonesense!
@sevenchambers
11 ай бұрын
@clotshot9459True. People don’t realize it’s all apart of the one world government agenda.
@brandonscott5544
11 ай бұрын
HOLLYWOOD PRODUCTS MOVIES AND SHOWS FAILURE GARAGE 🗑
There's going to be an entire generation of kids who grow up without any franchises of their own to latch onto because Hollywood insisted on wasting it's time destroying previous generations' franchises instead. Even as a business model, that's just colossally stupid.
Can't wait for the all female "Godmother". Sooo braaaaave!
@FUh_Que_-
11 ай бұрын
"Look how they massacred my They/Them" 😆😆
@makhmal1776
11 ай бұрын
@@FUh_Que_- 😂😂
@VinceLyle2161
11 ай бұрын
"Frieda, you're my non-binary sibling, but don't ever take sides against our matriarchal, polyamorous familial unit again. Ever."
@VinceLyle2161
11 ай бұрын
I know it was you, Frieda. You broke my heart. You broke my heart.
I grew up a long-haired, West Coast 90s grunge kid, and at the time, we were accused by some people of being too feminine (it was probably the hair, it's always the hair). But even the most vegan-minded, soy-soaked, neo-hippie pretty boy from the 90s seems like a paragon of raging masculinity compared to Hollywood's current idealized male. Personally, I won't be at all surprised if the ghosts of Cary Grant and Steve McQueen show up to haunt all our asses.
@whothoughthandleswereagoodidea
11 ай бұрын
That's because Hollywood's idealized male is a woman
@gsp6517
11 ай бұрын
I'm terribly sorry, but I don't take most of the complaints about the "pussyfication" of society seriously, especially considering how most of the men (yes, men) behind them aren't exacly models of masculinity themselves.
@iBloodxHunter
10 ай бұрын
@@gsp6517lol what an interesting way to tell everybody that you're an idiot. I would have chosen a different way, something other than going "this is fine" in a housefire but eh.
@irresponsiblyblue1411
10 ай бұрын
@@gsp6517 Good show. If you can't argue against the message, you can always attack the messenger.
@gsp6517
10 ай бұрын
@@irresponsiblyblue1411 Most people who argue said "message" do so by attacking others appearances, so what's the point?
I have to hand it to them. They knew their mission and carried it out completely, destroying all our favourite old legacy characters. Now they can sit on their throne of ashes.
You finally described current Hollywood perfectly; strip mining! These people suck the last value out of any property they acquire, not intending to continue building a quality product for future consumption, but to extract any value / monetization from an existing show or franchise, based on the nostalgia value the property still possesses; properties they had no hand in creating. I wouldn't mind it if they declared that was their intention, but the endless interviews and red carpet faunings about how these 'creators' are so excited about their modern interpretations of these classic characters, and all the new diversity and inclusion these updated stories contain to reach a wider audience, sickens me. These people have no talent, no creativity, no vision, and no soul. We live in the world of glorified fan fiction, where these awkward, socially inept writers place narrative surrogates of themselves into iconic stories, so that they can feel cool too despite having no place in the story. A kind of narrative stolen valor; like getting your picture taken with discount Chewie or Greedo at a Disney Star Wars photo-op. Anyone with a 100 IQ can be taught to write a sentence, but to be a Tolkien, Lucas, or Hemmingway requires more. In the race for the next viral hit, studios are literally throwing billions of dollars at the walls trying to find talent, rather than just sitting back and seeing where true cinematic innovation is coming from and nurturing it. And we, the audience, are their unlucky test bed. PS: You, Mauler, and It'saGundam need a live stream. The general cast of characters (Nerdrotic, Doomcock, etc) are mildly entertaining, but they tend to spend their time making fun of everything rather than offering any real solutions or analysis. I'd hire all 3 of you for my writer's room if I had a studio, since it's endearing to hear the shared pain in your voices when you talk of the destruction of our childhood inspirations.
@VinceLyle2161
11 ай бұрын
"Narrative stolen valor." That's really good. Kudos.
@mxvega1097
10 ай бұрын
Echo joins Critical Drinker every now and then but - as he's a modest, and self-effacing chap - frequently gets talked over by blowhards with the same set of a dozen talking points.
@lodrezzon
10 ай бұрын
@@mxvega1097 Seems similar to Mauler.
@DEWwords
10 ай бұрын
Bullseye
@cameronjones8641
9 ай бұрын
Great comment!
Regarding the point toward the end of the video about the inability of modern screenwriters to write compelling male characters... I think the number one problem here is the limited life experience of those screenwriters. I would bet real money that the typical bio of a Hollywood screenwriter today consists of growing up in an upper middle class or wealthier home, going to a university and majoring in the liberal arts, possibly going to film school, then interning on the staff of some TV series or other, or somewhere else in the entertainment industry, and then working their way up to their present positions. Contrast that with the generation of writers around when the original Star Trek was on the air. Gene Roddenberry had been a bomber pilot during WWII, and had worked as a Los Angeles police officer for a while post-war while he was trying to break into the writing business. Star Trek TOS producer Gene L. Coon had been a marine during WWII and Korea (though he didn't see combat in WWII IIRC). Twilight Zone creator Rod Serling had been a paratrooper in the Pacific Theater during WWII. Donald Wilson, co-creator of Doctor Who had served in WWII with the Cameronians and the 43rd Wessex Division. _Mel Brooks_ was a combat veteran, having been a combat engineer in the ETO during WWII. Moving to a bit later, Oliver Stone was a Vietnam War veteran. Going back a bit further, J.R.R. Tolkien had served in combat in the trenches during WWI, before he went on to become a scholar of genuine note in his field. These men, and lots of others of their respective generations had a hell of a lot more, and a lot more varied life experience than most of the TV and movie script writers of today, who only know the world outside the entertainment industry from what they read, and what they watch on a screen. I think a lot of that difference shows in their writing.
@Thomasmemoryscentral
11 ай бұрын
Even some of children's book authors can have some great stories of year creation. Wilbert Awdry wrote the first few stories of the railway series as a means of entertaining his 8 year old son Christopher one day sick with measles in bed. Brian Jacques created the first Redwall book as a story for blind children at a school with a world they could immerse themselves in
@19eightyforeisnow
11 ай бұрын
@@Thomasmemoryscentralwasn't watership down written or made up for the authors daughters before it became a novel?
@MediumRareOpinions
11 ай бұрын
I'll add another name. Roald dahl was an RAF pilot before going on to write children's books.
@tool2158
11 ай бұрын
Sure, this is a valid point. Stil they also lack creativity and imagination independent of their life experience. I think the lack of imagination and creativity is the bigger issue. You can lead a dull life and potentially still come up with fantastic ideas, let’s not pretend that this isn’t possible. But our current world has eliminated our imagination.
@nickcasale2767
11 ай бұрын
Finally a solution to bad movies, all we need is another world war
I think what’s most insulting and aggravating is there’s never any palpable change that comes from their own failures. They’re just rewarded more and more projects.
It's kind of amazing that many people still care about movies and tv shows. Breaking from the Hollywood spell is a luxury only a few can afford..
The revised budget estimate for the Fleabag girl boss movie is $329 Million after reshoots. Not $295 Million. Ad spending was estimated to be $100 million, $50 million less than usual for a movie this big because Disney Marketing thought it was going to flop and didn't want to burn more money to promote what they already knew was going to be a flop. It cost $429 MILLION to get this movie in theaters. That means this movie will have to make close to $900 Million just to break even for Disney, after the distributors and theaters take their cut of 50% of gross ticket sales. Figure $20 million for Harrison Ford alone, plus whatever percentage of gross he managed to get on top of that and you get the drift. This movie is going to lose more money than any other movie in history. Well done Kathleen Kennedy!!! She is the "gift" that keeps losing billions for Disney. Add the $2 BILLION investment lost in HER Galactic F up, Starcruiser idea and killing Star Wars and the Indy Jones franchises' and it makes her the single most expensive, money losing employee in the world's history of employment. I hope she stays with Disney until they file for Chapter 11. She will almost single handedly be the reason they will need to file for it. The poisonous brilliance of KK is hard to overstate. She will have nearly killed Disney, will have been personally responsible for losing Disney BILLIONS of dollars, and when fired, will get a, "Just go away" payout of around $30 Million just to get rid of her, after she DESTROYED everything she set out to destroy. That, there, is genius. She will go down as the single most costly and destructive "employee" in human, employment history. That is an amazing accomplishment. She truly is the Sith Lord of Hollywood. Palpatine would be proud.
@davisdenver6756
11 ай бұрын
The reason Disney keeps Kathleen Kennedy around is because it's not about the money. It's about pushing the message.
@DonDiego1973
4 ай бұрын
Wishful thinking. Disney is so unbelievably big, it can afford to go on like this for many years to come. It'll have to tighten the purse strings, yes, but it will not go bankrupt, its market share and brand recognition (yes, the casuals don't care that what's being poured in their troughs is shit) are way too big. There IS a first, though: For the first time ever Disney put in their Securities and Exchange Commission report that they will continue to pursue their "social goals" at the expense of making profit. A multi-billion company is saying that they will happily LOSE money as long as they can keep furthering their ideology.
@5dmkiii60
4 ай бұрын
@@DonDiego1973 So true. Iger has NO intention of, "dialing down the heat on social issues." He's the architect of Disney's dive into leftist social engineering. Just look at the new Rey movie and who they hired to direct it? Iger OK'd that and Kennedy is doubling down on the, "Force is Feminist" and very anti male, BS. Both Iger and Kennedy KNOW this movie will fail utterly, but they don't care. They only care about..."THE MESSAGE." Only thing that's going to stop Disney's further descent into woke madness is if Peltz and Perlmutter get on the Board and oust Disney's chief wokie....IGER.
If the goal was to keep people away from the cinema, it sure worked. Was a huge fan of most of these franchises. Now there is no feeling. Breath is just a clock.
@Finwaell
10 ай бұрын
just pick your movies carefully. Last year Northman and Drive my Car and Top Gun were awesome. you don't need to be at the cinema 3 times a week. read a (good) book rather.
Back to the Future, Mission: Impossible, Top Gun, Babylon 5, Firefly, John Wick, Metal Gear Solid... plenty left!
@jneilson7568
11 ай бұрын
There's a contract protecting Back to the Future, for now anyway, but I'm sure it's coming even if it's an unnecessary prequel that'll feel far more childish than the early 1990s cartoon spinoff.
@mr.sinjin-smyth
11 ай бұрын
Back to Future is safe for another 20 years, then watch Zemeckis' family give in to greed just like that of J.R.R. Tolkien's grandchildren.
There is one last franchise left. Back to the Future. It's been safe so far because the creators (Bob Gale and Robert Zemeckis) refuse to sell the rights. But just you wait 10-15 years until they die of old age (they are 71) and whoever gets the rights after will sell them to Disney or Amazon or whoever. The same thing that happened with Tolkien and LOTR.
Dune. Bladerunner. Top Gun. Karate Kid. All successful reboots of a beloved franchise. What do they have in common? An obvious familiarity of the source material and reverence for it. And a respect of the fan base. A desire to “do right” by the source material. No one was really clamoring for them. We didn’t need them. But that’s why they had to be good. They couldn’t be just a cash grab. There is some nostalgia. Some fan service but it was primarily a deeper exploration, a reconnection a character study performed by people who liked the character.
"Bastion of masculinity Paul Feige [...] and imposing alpha male Alex Kurtzman." You have no idea how many time I had to rewatch that section to catch the names and descriptors of all those Hollywood ultra-giga-chads. Well done Echo.
This (like so much else that is happening today) was specifically predicted in "Atlas Shrugged." In it, popular artists, lacking any principles or convictions to inspire them, run out of ideas and begin producing inferior copies of the previous generation's work instead.
@VinceLyle2161
11 ай бұрын
And pushing legislation limiting how many copies can be made, so the incompetent can't be eclipsed by the great.
Excellent. My feelings exactly. Only more beautifully phrased. Thank you.
"How do you feel to live long enough to see your favorite franchises go down in flames?" - RedLetterMedia
If Star Wars was breakfast, Rey would be Bran Flakes. It's supposed to be good for us, but we all want the bacon sandwich that is Han Solo.
@danielcohn-bendit701
11 ай бұрын
I do lov a bacon sandwich.
Well said. That clip of the Star Wars brainstorming session, and the list they came up with on the whiteboard, is the perfect single snapshot that...nobody in charge of these woke remakes/sequels have any clue about what made these shows the icons they were or why the fans were drawn to it.
@d3l3tes00n
11 ай бұрын
There's nothing "woke." lol No one likes these movies
@ltb1345
11 ай бұрын
@@d3l3tes00n They are woke, that's why no one likes them.
Dated this one girl who genuinely got excited for remakes with identity politics in it and she would deem those who did not enjoy them to be awful people. Turns out she was just as bad as the people she was demonizing
I'm re-reading LoTR for the first time since HS, and these are some really good books! :-)
I hope it all just keeps going. Disney is losing so much money that even Blackrock cant keep up with the money being wasted.
The overwhelming feeling I get from most of the franchise-ruinings described is that their creators believe an audience is something they deserve, not something they have to earn. Despite all their protestations, they *aren't* reflecting the modern world; they're reflecting one where behaving as they do and believing what they do, alone, gets their characters respect and success. They don't need to change, struggle, compromise; the world ought to change around them.
@Cougelly1999
11 ай бұрын
I see the sense in this, for some time it felt like something was wrong, wondering where this was going, wanting more, being dissatisfied, pointlessness, sadness. It is an unfortunate state of affairs which needs fixing.
@jskywalker58
11 ай бұрын
trust me if someone made a movie that ACTUALLY reflect the world we now live now those same people would being throwing a tantrum and do everything they could to cancel it
They are desperate to get their hands on "Back to the Future"
"The Age Of Ersatz Entertainment". What a great line.
"How does it feel to live long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames?"
@BiggieTrismegistus
11 ай бұрын
I love that Rich Evans quote because it was about Star Trek, something that's near and dear to my heart too. Another wonderful Evansism is when he called what Kurtzman and pals did to Star Trek "secular blasphemy".
Elemental ROCKS!!! One of the GREATEST love stories of the year!!!
Pessimist: This can't possibly get any worse. Optimist: Oh yes it can!
@MegaToonzNetwork
11 ай бұрын
Ben West: Well I guess it's.....HERO TIME!!!!!
"For I am become Death. Destroyer of Franchises." - Kathleen Kennedy
@VinceLyle2161
11 ай бұрын
Ironic, since Oppenheimer is opening this week...
I think internet/social media is also the downfall of most modern movies with progressive content. There is simply no hiding whether a movie is garbage or not. People also tend to boycott most movies once they have been disappointed a few times, especially from large franchises. It has gotten to the point where a lot of people today get more satisfaction watching a movie fail than actually going to the theatre to view it.
@apexoldguy
11 ай бұрын
yeah youtubers and critics have only made things worse!
@markadler8968
11 ай бұрын
@@apexoldguy How so? Are people not allowed to have an opinion or are they just allowed one when it aligns with your narrative? Good movies will be successful despite any opinions/content from critics. The fact is that most movies/entertainment today fail because people are tired of having woke ideologies ingrained in everything. If they made movies people actually liked we would watch them but instead they force their agenda on people and we are tired of it.
@autisticlegionnaire3624
11 ай бұрын
@@apexoldguy Quite the opposite. KZreadrs have given a voice to moviegoers concerns
@Anna-ht7xx
11 ай бұрын
None of these things are the problem with the film industry. The problem with the film industry is the fact that it's an industry, any human artform wether movies, books, music, you name it, gets it's creativity sucked out when it becomes an industry since our capitalistic system doesn't value creativity, it values profits. And when things that are supposed to be art get produced for no other reason other than profit, it becomes soulless and you lose the magic of the artform.
@markadler8968
11 ай бұрын
@@Anna-ht7xx That might be a part of why these movies are failing miserably but what about movies like Top Gun 2 and the new Avatar? They both avoided woke content and did extremely well at the box office. You are completely dismissing peoples opinions/values and their impact on their decision to watch a movie or not. Also if movies are an industry and value profit over everything why are they making the conscious decision to include this content when they know people despise it? To deny that these ideologies are not having an impact on movie attendance is denying reality.
Independent productions still make good and great stories, movies, and such. Edit: Hollywood is ignoring at least 2 generations of great books they could adapt to movies.
We have only one left. We must protect the Shrek Franchise at all costs!
@MediumRareOpinions
11 ай бұрын
They announced live action How to Train your Dragon complete with race swap casting. They'll come for Shrek next. It's gone, the cause is lost.
@caligulapontifex5759
11 ай бұрын
Back to the Future as well
You have succinctly told the truth sir. I salute you 😊
Spot on. Exceptional essay.
The writer of Enola Holmes where Enola replaces her brother Sherlock have also written about Rowan Hood, the daughter of Robin Hood. If paid well she is likely to be willing to write about women near King Arthur, Hercules and all other male heroes, just like they recently did with Peter Pan and WENDY. There is probably plenty left to ruin.
Echo's vocal & music edits are always an added bonus 🤘
There's always more to ruin, don't worry!!
@El_Andru
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, the thing is, hopefully more and more people will start to care less. So something with actual substance will be appreciated eventually. Its sad, but at the same time its good. Its just evolution of things.
@FUh_Que_-
11 ай бұрын
Flintstones soon and I can see them ruining Gilligan's Island, Greatest American Hero and more... like a junkie rummaging through old things to see what they can sell, they will ruin more
"Wow, mr sarcasm." 😂😂😂😂
I have ONE piece of entertainment that I still enjoy.... The Orville, That hasn't yet been ruined!
@fattiger6957
11 ай бұрын
I dunno about that. From what I watched of it, Season 3 was awful. I despise that new young female character they added. She was the definition of "strong female character", almost like the studio mandated she be shoehorned in.
@aurawolf2221
11 ай бұрын
@@fattiger6957 you mean Ensign Burke? I dunno I personally thought they handled her character pretty well, particularly when Ed mentioned her having "a monopoly on grief" I always saw that as a dig at these types of people who let their feelings run their lives, & I appreciate the fact that despite being a lesbian character, it wasn't obvious or pushed on the viewer.
@BiggieTrismegistus
11 ай бұрын
Once you get past the first few rough episodes _Star Trek: Lower Decks_ gets good and stays that way. It's *easily* the best thing to come out of this NuTrek era.
@aurawolf2221
11 ай бұрын
@@BiggieTrismegistus I was actually gonna consider watching that but I just never got round to it.
Back to the Future is the last one standing.. They need to hide that inside the arc of the covenant to protect it
@benfisher9968
11 ай бұрын
It’s safe whilst Robert Zemeckis is alive
@tdog5035
11 ай бұрын
I hope zemeckis puts the rights into some kind of unbreakable 100 year trust so his family can't get greedy and sell it to the highest bidder like the Tolkien family did.
@mr.sinjin-smyth
11 ай бұрын
It's good for another 20 years before Zemeckis' family likely gives in to greed very much like that of J.R.R. Tolkien's grandchildren.
It's funny. I was always contemptuous of the flop of the Black Cauldron movie being the only cinematic legacy of Lloyd Alexander's excellent Bildungsroman series in the Chronicles of Prydain. With some careful planning and pacing, there is absolutely grounds there to make it into another Harry Potter, just with less magic casting and more swordplay/character development. I now just quietly pray it stays dead so no one gets the idea to defile it.
@Thomasmemoryscentral
11 ай бұрын
Sometimes I wonder if Brian Jacques is lucky that Redwall never picked up much success on TV because Hollywood cant ruin something that while decently successful for a cartoon adaption is kind of a niche thing. Netflix bought the book rights in 2019 and brought on Patrick McHale to write a script to complete but never proceeded farther than that. Hopefully they wont mess it up
@jesweat0327
11 ай бұрын
I don't even want to consider what they would do to Taran and Eilonwy.
@alpyki2588
11 ай бұрын
Thats how I am with nearly anything, even if its something I like in bad taste. When the one thing you are excited to return is Subspecies, then something is fundamentally wrong with the entertainment landscape.
The sadness of the realisation that everything you have said here is true, is only outweighed by the way in which you convey your points. Thankyou again for your work.
Thank you for making a video that encapsulates how I feel. It wasn’t until Indy just came out that I finally realized we have all been duped so much like a frog in a pot with the heat slowly being turned up… in that cultural appropriation had just one target left: the strong white male lead character. Once we replace all those as we have now, the world will be free of oppression. No, not really? The last decade we have seen the weakest writing possible from what used to be a pinnacle of the worlds cinema- all for the goal of cultural equity. Well, if anyone needs a further example of how that looks in cinema, as you said; I don’t know what’s left for KK to ruin.
All we have left is Idiocracy and The Room.
@VinceLyle2161
11 ай бұрын
Where the hell is the next Tommy Wisseau masterpiece?
The goal is to get paid a lot of money to break things. The writers don’t care about corporate profits or box office revenue. They have been very successful in achieving this goal.
“From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring
There's still "Back to the Future", (un?)fortunately shielded with Robert Zemeckis's life. When he dies, it's hunting season. 😭
Disney: There is PLENTY left to ruin. We're just getting started.
Thank you for saying this. I don't know when, but one day, the high-ups at Hollywood will find out that identity politics has no business in movies. 😢🎉
Doctor who was the one that hurt the most for me, over 50 years of hard work just flushed down the toilet. It would've been better if the show had never come back.
Hollywood is dead. No tears are shed. Let it rot.
It could very well be the end of the traditional big budget cinema films tbh
They won't stop.... they want to erase all those "toxic masculinity success" that we all used to admire, with "toxic feminisms failures" forcing us all to watch our beloved characters, worlds and stories, die melancholy
You forgot the academy award nominated “call me by your name”
SO excellent!!!!
The only thing that they haven't ruin is Karate Kid. I think they did great with the Cobrai Kai comeback unlike the recent Star Wars movies.
Nothing Left to Ruin? 🤔 But Wait, There’s More! 😂
Truer words have not be spoken!!
You totally had me at Never Ending Story. Totally rad! 🤟
You are a god to me. Obsessed with your brilliant, honest and desperately needed content. Thank you, Echo!
@policesquad
11 ай бұрын
Translation: Heart me daddy.
@blodiaaa6990
11 ай бұрын
Pause
Good wiil come from this. Good storys, good characters, good writers, after destruction on such a catastrophic scale there can only be time to rebuild and build better.
They can't touch Back to the Future. Thanks, Mr. Zemeckis.
6:38~ "There's nothing left to DECONSTRUCT, to STRIP-MINE..." (Exactly; brilliant summary!)
This video is a masterclass evaluation of the current state of Hollywood. It really has become a cartoon of itself-with the Velma example being most apt. What’s happening with Lucasfilm and Pixar at Disney should be a clarion call for the rest of the industry. We, as viewers, just want good stories, well told. We don’t want to be preached to or told what terrible people we are.
I laughed out loud several times. Good writing.
I just happily subscribed to your channel. Most happily!! You’re speaking for us! Thank you!!!
Marvelous, succinct summary! Thank you!
It's amazing, I was just thinking the same thing. At this point, I don't really care what does well and what flops even. I'll probably check in to see if The Marvels flops at the box office for a good laugh, but after that I'll be completely checked out. I'll probably stop watching review KZread channels as well. The only thing I really care about are old movies and when it comes to that, I think I've seen all the masterpieces already. Maybe I'll get back into reading. I've been meaning to do that for a while.
@Mr.Goodkat
11 ай бұрын
There's no way in hell you've seen all the masterpieces, there is an endless back catalogue of great films, nobody has seen all the great ones, *nobody*.
@thomasreynolds3819
11 ай бұрын
@@Mr.Goodkat When it comes to the movies that you "Must watch before you die" I've seen most of them. You're right that there's probably a ton of underrated or undiscovered movies that are brilliant which I haven't seen, but I try not to lose sleep over that because I could never possibly see every movie in my lifetime.
@Mr.Goodkat
11 ай бұрын
@@thomasreynolds3819 It's feasible to see every great one though, I just think what prevents people is effort, the time it takes to find them and not knowing where to look, nobody ever said anything about seeing every film in your lifetime, sure tons of them aren't even worth seeing.
This is why we need actors. Stars we go see. Not film brands from corporate. Controlled. But the actors are woke as hell too so you're screwed with that as well.
"No.... There is another."
this is why I almost always only watch classic films.
Here's a wild idea. Bare with me because I don't know if it's been done before. How about have the legacy, beloved, well-established hero who's now old and due to be replaced by a younger, new hero, how about we have them in the wise mentor role. He recognizes the talent in the younger hero and teaches her what he's learned over the years. He trains her in whatever it is the hero in this IP does (be a Jedi or whatever). She struggles at first, we do a montage with some music in the background, both get frustrated but she picks herself up and shows determination. By the end of the arc, the audience we accept the replacement because she's earned her way while properly respecting the legacy hero that paved the way.
@metronome8471
11 ай бұрын
creed was s0 g00d
2016 to 2023 will be known as the affirmative action era of film.
Serendipitous scroller 😂 bloody love that
“Rock-jawed Kevin feige” hahahahha yes
There's Back to the Future. Though thankfully THAT is currently under protection of its creators who are against any reboot attempts.
@teastrainer3604
11 ай бұрын
They'd send woke modern people to the past to enlighten those folks.
@Anthonydavis65
11 ай бұрын
Lets hope that stays but i wouldnt put it past them to try
Something I've always wondered about is if there is any military veteran Hollywood writers on staff at these places. I mean, the U.S. has been at war for a quarter-century, and the military is a culture unto itself. And these places want diversity, right? So, it makes sense that action-oriented IPs looking for diversity would actively seek out veterans. If not directly, those to have firsthand experience with who have been in war. And while everyone is different, I have a hard time believing a military veteran or adjacent who also has the moxie to be a writer wouldn't have an intimate understanding of values that seem devoid in these stories.
Well said sir👍
This is some AMAZING writing! Your perspective is truthsaying, very refreshing.
That's when Hollywood realized... They hadn't made Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent gay black women. 😂
Loved cross of iron. James Coburn was a great actor. Loved the film so much I even picked up the original book. It was also great.
30 years ago I first heard the phrase “Disneyfication of America” used to describe how all of America was being Turned into a bland, fake, uniformly commercial theme park location. Who knew this was going to be the fate of every piece of “entertainment” today?
Don't speak too soon, there's still Alien: Romulus and a new Planet of the Apes movie ahead
They're going to start digging deep for things to ruin, maybe films like Flight of the Navigator or Goonies
Chronicles of Narnia is next, to be directed by Gerta Gerwig. There’s still a lot left to ruin. They’ll remake Casablanca at some point in order to ruin it.
" they first robbed me, then lost all the money. ah, the hubris." I really am a shmuck!
Art shouldn't primarily be educational or political.