There's No Single Cradle of Humankind

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It would take decades for paleontologists to realize that maybe there wasn’t just one so-called "cradle of humankind," and realize that maybe they’d been asking the wrong question all along.
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  • @kenrickman6697
    @kenrickman6697Ай бұрын

    “It’s complicated.” Describes family dynamics at every level, apparently.

  • @applegal3058

    @applegal3058

    Ай бұрын

    Indeed lol

  • @mintybadger6905

    @mintybadger6905

    Ай бұрын

    Some traditions never die.

  • @petterbirgersson4489

    @petterbirgersson4489

    Ай бұрын

    Facebook relationship status.

  • @texasbeast239

    @texasbeast239

    Ай бұрын

    Paleontological Family Court, With Judge Judy in the Sky Sheindlin

  • @SantiagoItzcoatl

    @SantiagoItzcoatl

    Ай бұрын

    embrace complexity or else

  • @AngryKittens
    @AngryKittensАй бұрын

    "ew just dinosaurs" - snooty anthropologists

  • @KhailSOLO

    @KhailSOLO

    Ай бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @ydid687

    @ydid687

    Ай бұрын

    Brother ughh What the hell brother

  • @netsherrera7193

    @netsherrera7193

    Ай бұрын

    "We just missed by a chunk of existance of life years" 🥲

  • @ryanreedgibson

    @ryanreedgibson

    Ай бұрын

    Awesome avatar! Slava Ukraini! From Arizona, USA!

  • @eVill420

    @eVill420

    Ай бұрын

    @@ryanreedgibson thanks for the support for Europe

  • @DarthChewie
    @DarthChewieАй бұрын

    Where did we come from? Where did we go? Where did we come from? Cotton Eye Joe.

  • @futuristica1710

    @futuristica1710

    Ай бұрын

    😂

  • @dylansimpson7831

    @dylansimpson7831

    Ай бұрын

    🫰🫰🫰

  • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

    @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

    Ай бұрын

    If I ever discover a fossil of an ancient hominid, I'll name it Cotton Eye Joe.

  • @fexcab

    @fexcab

    27 күн бұрын

    🫡 great job

  • @Polloles

    @Polloles

    25 күн бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @aplaceinthestars3207
    @aplaceinthestars3207Ай бұрын

    This is the sort of content that is great for the layperson who's been out of formal school for enough years and misses out on the current scientific consensus, especially when the last 5-10 years has had significant breakthroughs with DNA technology.

  • @RavensEagle

    @RavensEagle

    Ай бұрын

    What is the current scientific consensus then smart guy?

  • @CombatComics

    @CombatComics

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@RavensEaglelmao what? Go read something.

  • @adronator

    @adronator

    Ай бұрын

    @@RavensEagle Current consensus is that we weren’t fashioned by a Sky Wizard out of mud and a rib.

  • @animatorofanimation128

    @animatorofanimation128

    29 күн бұрын

    @@adronatorI love how atheism is just a personality type for some people. I mean without even being prompted they HAVE to insult religious people, like they are meeting their Reddit quota for the day

  • @douglemay7989

    @douglemay7989

    27 күн бұрын

    @@animatorofanimation128 The culture war is raging.

  • @lavioliberty8066
    @lavioliberty8066Ай бұрын

    In 2022, Japan's national museum of science in Ueno held a special exhibition on this exact topic which was amazing. From the failure in finding the origin of homosapien to their excellently successful collection of dinosaur fossils.

  • @PresidentEvil2

    @PresidentEvil2

    Ай бұрын

    The Pacific was crossed 13,000 years ago by boat. Asians landed in south america

  • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

    @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721

    Ай бұрын

    I guess one anthropologist's trash is another dinosaurologist's treasure.

  • @daltongalloway

    @daltongalloway

    23 күн бұрын

    “Great now we have to make a theme park”

  • @yourhuckleberry6757

    @yourhuckleberry6757

    17 күн бұрын

    Japan allied with Germany for multiple reasons. Look up endogenous Japanese.. Im sure they found what they were looking for.

  • @BlueTyphoon7
    @BlueTyphoon7Ай бұрын

    I know I shouldn't giggle about it, but forgive me. The artists who make the CG renders of ancient hominids always go out of their way to censor their groins each and every time. it's just really funny to me to imagine them walking around and hunting always making sure to cover themselves from the perspective of any would-be viewers.

  • @nicholsonastrid

    @nicholsonastrid

    Ай бұрын

    I'm glad somebody else noticed

  • @chrystals.4376

    @chrystals.4376

    Ай бұрын

    You never know if somebody is watching it on a bus.

  • @Renoroc

    @Renoroc

    Ай бұрын

    Perhaps clothing evolved to protect those areas from sharp teeth, hooves and horns?

  • @DrakeN-ow1im

    @DrakeN-ow1im

    Ай бұрын

    Much of the blame for that can be accredited to the Abrahamic religions et al.

  • @ikebeckman1074

    @ikebeckman1074

    Ай бұрын

    That gazelle’s ear was doing some heavy lifting for sure

  • @dorongrossman-naples9207
    @dorongrossman-naples9207Ай бұрын

    I love that you guys include the historical background for these discoveries. It really helps contextualize them.

  • @judgeberry6071

    @judgeberry6071

    Ай бұрын

    As opposed to what?

  • @AnaphylaxisByPeanutBrittle

    @AnaphylaxisByPeanutBrittle

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@judgeberry6071as opposed to just saying "this team of people found this stuff". As opposed to not including historical background that does not provide any context or extra information.

  • @chromothor6266
    @chromothor6266Ай бұрын

    The bottleneck that happens when a subset of a population migrates to a new habitat is more specifically called "founder effect" while what you might call a "classical bottleneck" happens due to population shrinkage like in cheetahs

  • @helenamcginty4920

    @helenamcginty4920

    Ай бұрын

    I read a few years ago that our species did in fact hit a bottleneck about 70,000 yrs ago. We were down to about 1000 or so 'breeding pairs' according to one suggestion.

  • @LuisAldamiz

    @LuisAldamiz

    Ай бұрын

    Founder effect is correct but bottleneck is also valid, as it's an analogy and not a precise technical term, also there's no substantive difference between the two phenomenons you exemplify: they both produce essentially the same results (some original genetics are removed from the result on "random" basis).

  • @zo5679

    @zo5679

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@helenamcginty4920is it because the Toba eruptions?

  • @joycebrewer4150

    @joycebrewer4150

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@helenamcginty4920 Less than a dozen pairs of humans at one point.

  • @aste4949

    @aste4949

    19 күн бұрын

    ​​@@joycebrewer4150Worst one was estimated down to 1,280 breeding individuals, still more than a dozen individuals thankfully. I'm definitely curious on which if any of the proposed bottleneck incidents get borne out by further research. Genetics is such a powerful tool!

  • @apestrong
    @apestrongАй бұрын

    The bottleneck of genes leaving Africa is really fascinating! Gives a whole new perspective on the diversity of life

  • @nakenmil

    @nakenmil

    Ай бұрын

    It's also a clear indicator why it's completely nonsensical to talk about "human races" sorted by continental origin (ie. Europeans, Asians, Africans, etc.), because the genetic diversity WITHIN Africa is far greater than the entire rest of the world. If I remember correctly, mitochondrial lineages have been traced back to a single split: there's the Khoi-San peoples of the Kalahari, and then there's... EVERYONE ELSE. So basically, a Zulu and an Inuit and a Frenchman and a Korean are all more closely related genetically than any of these are to the indigenous people of the Kalahari. Pretty wild.

  • @notaspeck6104

    @notaspeck6104

    Ай бұрын

    @nakenmil Literally. Like race and culture are two distinct things. The layman’s perception of race is dated and primitive.

  • @patreekotime4578

    @patreekotime4578

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@notaspeck6104It's almost like race is just a social construct.

  • @Gildedmuse

    @Gildedmuse

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@patreekotime4578Can we get maybe get some new plans to change up this construct? Just a little. You know take out some racism here, add some understanding of human evolution there....

  • @blazer9547

    @blazer9547

    Ай бұрын

    All non Africans are genetically similar

  • @golden_smaug
    @golden_smaugАй бұрын

    Lucy's distant cousins were estranged and didn't want to be found

  • @koreyb

    @koreyb

    26 күн бұрын

    Lucy took the secret of why Homo Erectus all died out to her grave. But I think we could all guess why. If you know what I mean.

  • @lightbeingform
    @lightbeingformАй бұрын

    'braided stream' is a very nice turn of phrase, i heartily approve

  • @aidanb.c.2325
    @aidanb.c.2325Ай бұрын

    I wrote my Master's thesis on the initial human settlement of Australia and its implications for the Multiregional and Out-of-Africa models. This video feels very familiar. That could also be because I taught Intro to Human Evolution at a community college for 15 years lol.

  • @atmanebedjou8455

    @atmanebedjou8455

    Ай бұрын

    A lot of speculation but no evidence. A theory built on speculation.

  • @krizcillz

    @krizcillz

    Ай бұрын

    i'm curious, what did your thesis suggest on dates and speciation?

  • @andrabook8758

    @andrabook8758

    Ай бұрын

    I still think that all the hypotheses are incomplete. It still leave a LOT open to interpretations. To me the 1 source for all evolution has never made sense. It does not hold water for any of the other species.

  • @DesmondKarani

    @DesmondKarani

    24 күн бұрын

    @@atmanebedjou8455 There's a lot of evidence on this theory. What alternative theory do you have? I'm curious.

  • @MungoManic

    @MungoManic

    13 күн бұрын

    Is it published somewhere? I'd love to read it!

  • @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x
    @4124V4TA-SNPCA-xАй бұрын

    When she called the dinosaur find "failure", I have heard it in Steven He's voice, loud and reverberating. 😂 I don't know if my brains instant association is cool or disturbing.

  • @danielpicassomunoz2752

    @danielpicassomunoz2752

    Ай бұрын

    Faaaaaaliiiure

  • @joebwannabe

    @joebwannabe

    Ай бұрын

    What da hail did you say

  • @jaidadeclouette1989

    @jaidadeclouette1989

    Ай бұрын

    I love that guy!

  • @petsgamesandrobots438

    @petsgamesandrobots438

    Ай бұрын

    Emotional daaamaage!

  • @alfaseng

    @alfaseng

    Ай бұрын

    "Faaaaiiiiiluuureeee. Already dead due to asteroid haiyaa, my ancestors the rats can survive a measly rock from space, let alone your cousin Timmy can survive Earth tossed out of orbit." ~ Steven He, probably

  • @colinmorris3526
    @colinmorris3526Ай бұрын

    The cradle of mankind needs renaming “the classroom of mankind”

  • @DSAK55

    @DSAK55

    Ай бұрын

    school yard of mankind

  • @almightyyt2101

    @almightyyt2101

    20 күн бұрын

    YoMTv Welcome to another episode of Mankinds Crib!

  • @RBzee112

    @RBzee112

    6 күн бұрын

    The syllabus of civilization

  • @Spearca
    @SpearcaАй бұрын

    I thought this was building to the "Out of Africa Again and Again" model which largely synthesizes the two described.

  • @Idellphany
    @IdellphanyАй бұрын

    Gosh I feel incredibly validated, as I disagreed about all this with my archaeology professor back in 2002 haha. The idea of only 1 wave once was always dumb to me.

  • @orbitalvagabond7371

    @orbitalvagabond7371

    Ай бұрын

    Well, it was only the one wave that survived extinction, unless you mean the minority genetic share of the other two species.

  • @Idellphany

    @Idellphany

    Ай бұрын

    @@orbitalvagabond7371 "In May 2023, scientists reported, based on genetic studies, a more complicated pathway of human evolution than previously understood. According to the studies, humans evolved from different places and times in Africa, instead of from a single location and period of time." wikipedia Also why would you ever think genetics is static? (as in it hasn't changed in 300k years) The fact that we see any other hominid dna still after how many bottle necks and 300,000 years of dna recombination is very notable.

  • @Idellphany

    @Idellphany

    Ай бұрын

    @@orbitalvagabond7371 We are only now starting to sequence really old DNA and we will get a much better picture once this process is further explored.

  • @krizcillz

    @krizcillz

    Ай бұрын

    Suffer together, had a similar experience. Archeology teachers seem to be a bad lot 😂

  • @LuisAldamiz

    @LuisAldamiz

    Ай бұрын

    @@Idellphany - Whatever: that's just empty chatter. A typical European "multiregional" genetics is 2.4% (all of it Neanderthal and not even from European Neanderthals but Asian ones rather) and, with lesser variations, it's the same for all the rest of humans. In short: we are still more than 95% uniregional, from the Nile region to be specific.

  • @Shantosh9550
    @Shantosh9550Ай бұрын

    Pls do an episode on India when it was an island during the mesozoic after breaking off from Gondwana.

  • @tim.a.k.mertens

    @tim.a.k.mertens

    Ай бұрын

    Omg yes I'm so curious about this

  • @1331423

    @1331423

    Ай бұрын

    The Common Descent podcast has a great episode about this! Give them a try

  • @KellyClowers

    @KellyClowers

    Ай бұрын

    @@1331423 second that! They do great deep dives on all kinds of paleo/evolution/zoology things (and botany with Dr. Aly Baumgartner)

  • @ibrav7979

    @ibrav7979

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@1331423episode number?

  • @lhurst9550
    @lhurst9550Ай бұрын

    It was not linear, nor a tree, but more of a bush. Many, many starts and stops and mixing.

  • @brothermine2292

    @brothermine2292

    Ай бұрын

    Isn't the topology of a bush the same as the topology of a tree? A better analogy might be a web, which has interconnections between strands.

  • @ecurewitz

    @ecurewitz

    Ай бұрын

    Or a braided stream as mentioned

  • @Bubble-Foam

    @Bubble-Foam

    13 күн бұрын

    @@brothermine2292 Yeah, only difference between a bush and a tree is height.

  • @Naguib55

    @Naguib55

    8 күн бұрын

    @@brothermine2292 In a tree each node has one path back to the root. in a "bush" which is not a scientific term. Nodes can have multiple paths from the root to them or there can be no root at all.

  • @brothermine2292

    @brothermine2292

    8 күн бұрын

    >AhmedNaguib1 : The definition of "bush" is "a large plant that is smaller than a tree and has many branches." That has the same topology as a tree. What definition are you using instead? You might want to consider trimming your bush.

  • @davideleazar5721
    @davideleazar5721Ай бұрын

    "Ningún humano es una isla" Tremendo

  • @patrickf.4440

    @patrickf.4440

    29 күн бұрын

    A more accurate Spanish translation of John Donne's poem would be, "Ningún hombre es una isla." But I am sure Donne meant no hominid is an island .

  • @ambulocetusnatans
    @ambulocetusnatansАй бұрын

    Taung Child looks like my little brother if he had facial hair at 8.

  • @chemquests
    @chemquestsАй бұрын

    This year is the 50th anniversary of discovering Lucy!

  • @nemosomen
    @nemosomenАй бұрын

    Where did we come from? Where did we go? Where did we come from, human anthro?

  • @vincentdavis1926
    @vincentdavis192614 күн бұрын

    The last I heard ... homo sapiens left Africa in multiple waves mixing with the various types of homonids who were already around the world.

  • @experience741
    @experience741Ай бұрын

    "sir we found dinosaur fossil" "You're failure"

  • @Gildedmuse
    @GildedmuseАй бұрын

    6:20 Love this shot showing just how big Africa is. Maps dont always capture just how big many places are.

  • @ttt5020

    @ttt5020

    10 күн бұрын

    I wouldn't say so, it's just not far enough away from Earth? Africa doesn't take up half the globe. It's the same way that looking down from a building shows 'how big' the city is, since it appears to be half of the earth assuming the rest is on the other half. Same illusion as the timestamp

  • @malkong2784
    @malkong278424 күн бұрын

    i’ve watched every video yall have, i’ve been watching since day one. I love you guys, thank you all for always giving me something educational to look forward too, it’s made my life a lot easier than yall could ever know

  • @iron3491
    @iron349123 күн бұрын

    There is something humbling about watching these videos. It really puts into perspective how all of our ancestors have not been struggling for better lives for decades or centuries but rather millions of years.

  • @JamesLeatherman
    @JamesLeathermanАй бұрын

    I miss Steve.

  • @michaelpdawson

    @michaelpdawson

    Ай бұрын

    I think that every time they read the names!

  • @erdood3235

    @erdood3235

    Ай бұрын

    What happened to him?

  • @michaelmayhem350

    @michaelmayhem350

    Ай бұрын

    Me too but my aim is improving

  • @samh9436

    @samh9436

    Ай бұрын

    Same.

  • @BonaparteBardithion

    @BonaparteBardithion

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@erdood3235 We don't really have a way of knowing. I would guess a change in financial situation.

  • @TragoudistrosMPH
    @TragoudistrosMPHАй бұрын

    7:54 one great argument against stereotypes. A group people can't really "all be a certain way" when genetics show just how different people actually are. :)

  • @katelynnehansen8115

    @katelynnehansen8115

    Ай бұрын

    We’re just as different as we are the same. It’s startling to think what a small portion of our DNA responsible for our mosaic of unique traits.

  • @Bubble-Foam

    @Bubble-Foam

    13 күн бұрын

    @@katelynnehansen8115 It’s “small” in comparison to the sheer quantity of dna that does either really basic functions, or nothing at all.

  • @xirsixussien7303

    @xirsixussien7303

    10 күн бұрын

    People who belong to a certain culture behave in a similar way.

  • @TragoudistrosMPH

    @TragoudistrosMPH

    10 күн бұрын

    @@xirsixussien7303 oh? For example, how does your culture collectively behave?

  • @ancientalemanni

    @ancientalemanni

    8 күн бұрын

    @@TragoudistrosMPHif you can’t accept the statement people who belong to a certain culture behave a certain way, then the word culture has no meaning. It’s literally the definition of culture for Christ’s sake

  • @emiliiiaaaaaa
    @emiliiiaaaaaaАй бұрын

    i love this channel hopefully when i’m a paleontologist i can be a host

  • @Adi-8529

    @Adi-8529

    Ай бұрын

    That’s such a super ambition!!!

  • @zantetsu8674

    @zantetsu8674

    Ай бұрын

    @@Adi-8529 The paleontologist part or the KZread host part? I know which one *I* think is a worthwhile ambition ...

  • @Beryllahawk
    @BeryllahawkАй бұрын

    I much prefer the interwoven braid type idea for our lineage; it seems a LOT more logical given what we know about evolution in general terms. Too, I reallllly think the initial ideas that there could be only one "correct human lineage" was rooted in some fairly unpleasant assumptions. Things the scientists at the time might not even have been aware of (or seen as a problem) but that definitely shaped HOW they looked for evidence and what they were willing to accept AS evidence. Which you did mention but I felt like pointing out that the systems of colonialism really did (and do) extend right through every single thing Western science has done. Glad to see us slowly but steadily shedding those old bad habits.

  • @chriswatson7965

    @chriswatson7965

    Ай бұрын

    I don't understand your post. First you say that you prefer the braided model, then you say that there isn't a correct model and imply that believing that there can be a correct model is bad science. Please explain.

  • @tsopmocful1958

    @tsopmocful1958

    Ай бұрын

    This video and your comment try to emphasise colonialism whenever mentioning Western history as though it defines all of Western history - including our scientific history. Please keep in mind that things like studying and discovering the origin of human species wouldn't have even gone beyond the level of local myths in the first place if it wasn't for the Scientific Revolution initiated by the West and still largely carried by the West.

  • @kyrab7914

    @kyrab7914

    29 күн бұрын

    There was also a lot of phrenology- reading the bumps of the skull to determine intelligence of ppl. Also influenced by our friend racism and subsequently debunked

  • @Dotsetc

    @Dotsetc

    21 күн бұрын

    ⁠​⁠​⁠@@tsopmocful1958I feel like only you assumed that because you mightve felt uncomfortable by it. Yes when it comes to subjects like this, racist undertones or full blown racism was quite a standard in the West from the 18th century on. They even purposefully did it to create a superiority idea backed by 'factual evidence' to the degree too many Western people believe these theories to be true to this very day. Doesnt mean the West hasnt contributed greatly. They just also destroyed reason just as much whenever it benefitted them.

  • @davidschaftenaar6530

    @davidschaftenaar6530

    18 күн бұрын

    ​​@@Dotsetc What motivated the person's reply is irrelevant, how many people share their views is irrelevant. They either have a point or they don't. And in this case, I think this person _does_ have a point. You're asserting that Western colonialism and the hair brained attempts at justifying it were and (to a significant extent) still are the dominant influence when it comes to paleoanthropology and many other fields. Even prioritizing that influence above that of reason. That simply isn't true. If that were the case, we would never have ended up with a scientific consensus that so thoroughly invalidates both the concept of racial superiority/inferiority and the entire concept of race as a biologically meaningful way of categorizing human beings. The reason those ideas are no longer accepted as scientifically valid (which, very true, they once were) is because, when scientists in the West were presented with the choice between following the evidence, or clinging to views that conveniently validated their worldview and their own position in the existing social hierarchy: They largely chose to follow the evidence.

  • @bradw.1945
    @bradw.1945Ай бұрын

    I'd be thrilled to find dinosaur bones. Maybe I should start digging up my back yard.

  • @xINVISIGOTHx

    @xINVISIGOTHx

    Ай бұрын

    I wish I lived somewhere where dinosaurs lived. I'd be digging all the time

  • @bradw.1945

    @bradw.1945

    Ай бұрын

    No dinosaurs where I live either. The land was totally scoured by glacier activity. Everything left is either younger than a million years or from the Pleistocene.

  • @smalltime0

    @smalltime0

    Ай бұрын

    @@bradw.1945 That's the main issue, also it'd have to be the right conditions to preserve a fossil in the first place.

  • @istvansipos9940

    @istvansipos9940

    Ай бұрын

    KFC chicken wings. With bonus dinosaur bones

  • @DarthChewie

    @DarthChewie

    Ай бұрын

    @@bradw.1945 Unless I'm missing something, that seems like a pretty roundabout way of saying 'everything left is younger than 2.6 millions years'... Also, have you tried digging deeper? But learn from my mistakes: When you hit mantle, you've gone too far. It melted my shovel.

  • @viyorel
    @viyorelАй бұрын

    i LOVE learning about ancient humans

  • @netsherrera7193
    @netsherrera7193Ай бұрын

    Thank you VERY MUCH for this explanation! 🙏

  • @that_one_momo_guy
    @that_one_momo_guyАй бұрын

    Easily one of the best popular science channels out there, thank you for amazing, detailed, nuanced and critical content! PS if you guys bring back the Eons t-shirts I'll buy one instantly lol

  • @Wanhope2
    @Wanhope2Ай бұрын

    🎉🎉Always celebrate a new Eons video!

  • @baraskparas9559
    @baraskparas955928 күн бұрын

    Great presentation as usual. Eloquent and informative.

  • @GLBinNP
    @GLBinNPАй бұрын

    Excellent video, thanks !!

  • @PulseHistory
    @PulseHistory27 күн бұрын

    ach release is like a gift! Thank you for your labor.

  • @zachhoff9876
    @zachhoff9876Ай бұрын

    Great video! Learned a lot. Thanks

  • @nsl-u-boot8464
    @nsl-u-boot8464Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for making such enlightening content!

  • @Taiiena
    @TaiienaАй бұрын

    Delightfully informative video👍🏾

  • @SinKimishima
    @SinKimishimaАй бұрын

    My fridge is the crade of new fungi-kind

  • @noneyabizz8337

    @noneyabizz8337

    Ай бұрын

    Lol, you edited and the comment is still bad

  • @philipblount2561

    @philipblount2561

    Ай бұрын

    Bet. We're sending a team to your location.

  • @CdFMasterVideo

    @CdFMasterVideo

    Ай бұрын

    Wait till in interbreeds with mine

  • @rabidpichu7391

    @rabidpichu7391

    Ай бұрын

    Odd flex, but okay

  • @rabidpichu7391

    @rabidpichu7391

    Ай бұрын

    Lmao jk can totally relate

  • @RythmicRaindrops
    @RythmicRaindropsАй бұрын

    I love these Super difficult to answer questions. It's really fun to try to comprehend those tens of thousands of years have gone into the evolution of our species, And all of the species before them

  • @ruyfernandez
    @ruyfernandezАй бұрын

    Thanks for this video! I am a student and I am writing a paper and about to start a PhD about this subject.

  • @JoseReyes-yn3xj
    @JoseReyes-yn3xjАй бұрын

    Great video! Thank you for informing me on our (human's) history.

  • @chemquests
    @chemquestsАй бұрын

    Early misdirection on where to look also came from religious ideas like the Garden of Eden (& literalists actually expecting to find it).

  • @sophiejones3554

    @sophiejones3554

    Ай бұрын

    Yep, that definitely played into the whole "Lemuria" thing. People really wanted to find a Garden of Eden type origin, in order to reconcile their religious beliefs with science.

  • @simontmn

    @simontmn

    9 күн бұрын

    There does seem to be evidence now that agriculture and towns both started in eastern Turkey in the traditional "garden of Eden" area. I guess that's when we ate the apple. :)

  • @sophiejones3554

    @sophiejones3554

    9 күн бұрын

    @@simontmn that's only *one* of the places those things were invented. What the actual evidence shows is that there were multiple origin points for human civilizations. The only scrap of truth in the "Garden of Eden" idea is that these places were all around big rivers where many types of resources were available all year round. The vastly different ways that people organized their civilizations however, reflect the different staple crops and other conditions (such as the flooding patterns of the rivers) around them. People had already spread to every continent well before anything resembling a civilization existed anywhere, so all the major civilization centers grew up independently. That is, although the conditions in the Fertile Crescent accelerated the growth of city-states, the idea of a city-state very much did NOT radiate out from there. It was invented multiple times independently.

  • @simontmn

    @simontmn

    9 күн бұрын

    @@sophiejones3554 "that's only one of the places those things were invented" - True, but does seem to be the oldest though! Certainly the oldest known.

  • @chemquests

    @chemquests

    9 күн бұрын

    @@simontmn “garden of Eden area”??? Why would anyone have an expectation of where that would be? Anywhere you find earliest settlements you could claim post hoc to be such an area. I used the term misdirection intentionally as the entire story is a red herring.

  • @duncanangelotizon9188
    @duncanangelotizon9188Ай бұрын

    For a long time the consensus was that humans anatomically similar to us first emerged 200,000 years ago, it’s amazing how this video already has updated information stating that it was as farther back as 300,000 years ago. I also read that from a book called “The science of being human.” It’s fascinating how science is a continual quest for knowledge.

  • @AvadGroup
    @AvadGroupАй бұрын

    Mood changed… great day…. New video from eons 🎉🎉

  • @Peecamarke
    @PeecamarkeАй бұрын

    Great vid! So informative I was always confused by the different areas considered cradles of civilization va cradles of our species and etc

  • @vincentdavis1926
    @vincentdavis192614 күн бұрын

    7:53 is when she gets to the point

  • @vladciobanu7480
    @vladciobanu7480Ай бұрын

    Great insights, such complexity!

  • @Myself-yf5do
    @Myself-yf5doАй бұрын

    So Africa was so harsh that our prehistoric ancestors evolved better brains to figure out how to cope with the challenges?

  • @LovelyRobotFigurine-lr5pu

    @LovelyRobotFigurine-lr5pu

    Ай бұрын

    😂😅😂

  • @userJohnSmith

    @userJohnSmith

    9 күн бұрын

    We stood up and freed our hands because the rain forests dried out. That led to a more efficient body design (seriously no one can or distance us). That left more energy and an amazing tool (dextrous hands)for our brains to make use of. So kinda yeah.

  • @SacrosanctStories
    @SacrosanctStoriesАй бұрын

    Thank you for recognizing indigenous people at the ends of your episodes. I have been watching the show for years, and appreciate this sooo much. Also, I miss the jokes....

  • @chiccngeorge3058

    @chiccngeorge3058

    29 күн бұрын

    This entire video was about indigenous peoples lmao I don’t see how you people can think there’s a difference from native Africans and any other native group on earth.

  • @Alice_Walker
    @Alice_WalkerАй бұрын

    I absolutely LOVE these early human videos! So cool!! 💜

  • @AlaskanMagicK9
    @AlaskanMagicK9Ай бұрын

    Love it! Reminded me of my anthropology class in high school

  • @stevefisher2553
    @stevefisher2553Ай бұрын

    So cool! Ty

  • @TragoudistrosMPH
    @TragoudistrosMPHАй бұрын

    3:26 I love that you put the science in the context of history! ❤ -happy patron!

  • @ttt5020
    @ttt502010 күн бұрын

    Hm- you mention the common ancestor between humans and chimps a few times, but I think it's important to specify- that's actually the human-chimp-bonobo common ancestor! That species split into humans and chimp-bonobos, the latter only much later splitting into chimps and bonobos. Chimps and bonobos are like siblings, and humans are like their cousin. I think it's especially important due to the differences between bonobos and chimps, to whom we are equally related. For example, bonobos eat mostly fruits and plants and are peaceful, as opposed to the more omnivorous and war-like chimpanzee. This could be an interesting video topic!

  • @70SavageCCC
    @70SavageCCCАй бұрын

    This video was so needed!

  • @superericdude100
    @superericdude10016 күн бұрын

    I love how they manage to send "the message" no matter what they are talking about

  • @richardb8104

    @richardb8104

    11 күн бұрын

    It's why PBS jumped the shark many years ago friend. Too much message, and not enough actual science.

  • @hsmd4533

    @hsmd4533

    10 күн бұрын

    It’s PBS. Their main goal is always The Message.

  • @TheCognitiveDissident

    @TheCognitiveDissident

    8 күн бұрын

    What the heck is “the message?“ (genuinely wondering).

  • @marksmanentertainment
    @marksmanentertainmentАй бұрын

    I love this channel

  • @redwolfjoy
    @redwolfjoy28 күн бұрын

    I love this video! I very much enjoyed this one.

  • @Serenity_Dee
    @Serenity_DeeАй бұрын

    2:13 When I was a teenager (30+ years ago) the estimate for divergence from chimpanzees and bonobos was 2 or 3 mya, according to what I remember reading at the time. Of course, at the time, we also thought New World monkeys were more closely related to Old World monkeys than either group is to apes, and that the ape lineage split off before that split, so monkeys and apes were two different clades. Now I know that genomics and cellular studies have conclusively demonstrated that New World monkeys split off from the Old World monkey lineage much earlier than we did, and apes are also in the monkey clade.

  • @LuisAldamiz

    @LuisAldamiz

    Ай бұрын

    Should be at least 8 million years, notably because Sahelanthropus is already very clearly in our line and not theirs (upright walking, some brain features like us even if it was still a small brain). Various more serious estimates are between 8 Ma to maybe as much as 17 Ma (I lean for 10-12 Ma). A key calibration point is the split between chimps and bonobos, which must coincide with the formation of the Congo River basin, which is not precisely dated but probably c. 1.7 Ma ago.

  • @aashutoshmule
    @aashutoshmuleАй бұрын

    'No human is an island' I like that statement

  • @ktspirit1

    @ktspirit1

    Ай бұрын

    No Man is an Island. A poem by John Donne.

  • @aashutoshmule

    @aashutoshmule

    Ай бұрын

    @@ktspirit1 Oh...I did not know that...thanks for sharing. Will read the poem.

  • @atomictraveller

    @atomictraveller

    19 күн бұрын

    i was gonna debate but ur right, once ur an island, they call you a demon or some other shi not man then they HSS you from the FUSION center

  • @SuperLoops
    @SuperLoopsАй бұрын

    now I need to know why that guy thought we came from an island that sank into the indian ocean it seems like such a wild idea to pull outve nowhere

  • @smalltime0

    @smalltime0

    Ай бұрын

    The idea predated the notion of plate tectonics and continental drift. Its seems easy to discredit with hindsight (we have tools like seismology and 'advanced' genetic testing), but basically everyone was looking to explain why its very obvious that we are one species - but why are there such radical racial differences. Its easy enough to explain Afro-Eurasia being fine, but you have people in the Americas, Oceania and the Pacific that wouldn't have been in contact with each other for millennia. Islands at the time were known to rise and fall on occasion and Lemuria sort of bridged India to Australia and Madagascar. The other cut off islands would have been the result of smaller bridges that had since disappeared. The basis of the wild speculation is that the Lemur are in Madagascar and India but not Africa, its not the only animal where that's true. And the theory isn't that wild when you consider during the ice age there were actually land bridges/shallower waters which did enable migration of humans (and for horses to get to asia before going extinct in the americas)

  • @ldbarthel

    @ldbarthel

    Ай бұрын

    I wouldn't say out of nowhere. There is an antecedent in the account of Atlantis from Plato. Also, the idea of a global flood as described in Genesis still had adherents. (FWIW, it's far more likely that the various flood narratives are based on local catastrophic events, although there is also some cross-pollination between cultures in the structure and details of the stories.)

  • @smalltime0

    @smalltime0

    Ай бұрын

    @@ldbarthel Also the sea people in the Bronze Age collapse

  • @LuisAldamiz

    @LuisAldamiz

    Ай бұрын

    Ever heard of "the lost continent of Lemuria"? Well, you didn't miss much, but that's what passed as respectable science a century ago or so...

  • @smalltime0

    @smalltime0

    Ай бұрын

    @@LuisAldamiz wow you got what the OP was talking about. Its easy to dismiss in the age of seismology and hydrology and the like, but trying to explain observable facts, using observable facts... Lemuria makes sense.

  • @highfive7689
    @highfive7689Ай бұрын

    Kallie Moore, thank you for a wonderfully presented program. I also know that some of your own researches may have been used in the programming. Lots of hard work from all of you. Absolutely well thought out explanation that takes into account all the contradictory theories, and yet unites them. We can call it - The Unifying theory of Homo Sapiens evolution. - lol. But, it is the only concept that takes into account genetic, geological, Time scales and physical fossil distributions.

  • @dwilly8381
    @dwilly8381Ай бұрын

    This is. one of my top fav videos thus far

  • @notimetolive12
    @notimetolive12Ай бұрын

    Was Lemuria full of Golem people and loved music and symphonies?? (I am kidding,, It's a game reference)..

  • @texasbeast239

    @texasbeast239

    Ай бұрын

    Poor Sméagol, we barely knew ye.

  • @notimetolive12

    @notimetolive12

    Ай бұрын

    @@texasbeast239 I was talking about Genshin, not Lotr.. It's Golem, not gollum.. But anyway, happy day 😊

  • @misterbadguy7325

    @misterbadguy7325

    Ай бұрын

    Lemuria got picked up in occultism, hence it tends to show up in that kind of literature.

  • @MegaJessness

    @MegaJessness

    Ай бұрын

    Naw, Lemuria was totally full of ancient humans who had alchemy figured out and were mostly water Adepts :D

  • @TristanKing-dq5cd
    @TristanKing-dq5cdАй бұрын

    Hella early and very excited for this episode. Thank you for helping advance the march of Knowledge!

  • @guyh.4553
    @guyh.455328 күн бұрын

    Great episode as normal!

  • @marqessanzcora4089
    @marqessanzcora4089Ай бұрын

    As always..., thanks

  • @MrJacksonstudios
    @MrJacksonstudiosАй бұрын

    She's so cute, in a science way.

  • @futuristica1710

    @futuristica1710

    Ай бұрын

    True. Smart and beautiful.

  • @mistergoats4380
    @mistergoats4380Ай бұрын

    Yeah, life is often not that simple.

  • @gsilcoful
    @gsilcofulАй бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @windlessoriginals1150
    @windlessoriginals1150Ай бұрын

    Thank you

  • @mjacobs8139
    @mjacobs8139Ай бұрын

    Brb. Gotta watch the Kendrick video and come back 4:57

  • @leeshmonsterzero
    @leeshmonsterzeroАй бұрын

    @5:40 does anyone else hear a Red-winged blackbird?

  • @stopdacap2991

    @stopdacap2991

    Ай бұрын

    I definitely heard it.

  • @GillianMStarlight

    @GillianMStarlight

    Ай бұрын

    It sounds like one, at least it's not the red-tailed hawk sound that almost always gets dubbed over bald eagles. It helps that I saw and heard maybe dozens of them last Sunday.

  • @brucewayne000
    @brucewayne00028 күн бұрын

    Great content!!!

  • @eschwarz1003
    @eschwarz1003Ай бұрын

    so fascinating

  • @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061
    @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061Ай бұрын

    The origin of Fire and Art might be further back in history than we thought and neither are homo sapiens in origin. Fire--some mild evidence points to Homo erectus and art might date before us contemporary humans (And no, it's not Neanderthal--there is evidence it goes back even further according to one doc I saw). ^^ Sticking in my anthro degree stick for maybe future episodes.

  • @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061

    @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061

    Ай бұрын

    @@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd They found some mild evidence for fire pits for Homo Erectus which shows ability to control fire, though this is kinda disputed, we are 100% sure it's Homo Heidelbergensis had it. The lava idea I haven't heard widespread that much, but early settlements did set up near large deposits. But looked it up... sounds like you're referring to "Speculations about the Effects of Fire and Lava Flows on Human Evolution" by Michael Medler? I should note his main field of study is Geography (Which also deals with humanity as well), but there isn't much follow up to back him quite yet and most of his ideas are speculation if you read his paper carefully. But finding hard evidence would be difficult. Homo Naledi according to the Netflix documentary about them had art. Which just blows your mind. But Neanderthal (whose classification is under dispute) also had art. So this might argue that we're missing art of our early human ancestors? Given how Naledi art is much like later art in caves, it leaves a lot of questions.

  • @franceshorton918

    @franceshorton918

    Ай бұрын

    Just following along your thoughts about early hominids being familiar with fire, long enough to learn about it.... WHT didn't other animals learn to be 'not afraid' of fire? Lions, wolves, bears, and gorillas,, etc, they are all very intelligent mammals. I know we had opposable thumbs, but t would they have been ready for the fine muscle control and the care needed to avoid burns? Most non domesticated animals avoid fire

  • @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061

    @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061

    Ай бұрын

    @@franceshorton918 Other animals, especially on the open savannah, likely were used to being surrounded by fire, but with the inability to *control* it. For humans (in the deleted reply for whatever reason even though the deleted reply had nothing threatening or mean in it but was pure academia and was merely citing sources without any links) the evolution of the hominin brain might have depended very much on cooked meat from several supporting articles. In another words, there is a link between bigger brains and meat, though there is also the sea hypothesis out there too. The ability to control fire would help kill all sorts of things in the food: parasites, harmful bacteria, and also give defense. So yes, those thumbs probably played a role over time with the control of fire.

  • @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061

    @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061

    Ай бұрын

    @@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd I gave a reply and a pretty decent one with papers linked, but the reply got deleted. ^^ Uhhh... maybe they wanted to use the info I put into it. But yeah, the paper you're referring to is from a geographer rather than an anthropologist. Not naming the paper again, 'cause last time it got deleted. (There was nothing mean in the reply either. All I did was give you citations without links... so ummm. dun know.)

  • @franceshorton918

    @franceshorton918

    Ай бұрын

    @@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd Thanks Toxic, I really liked your initial visualisation of "running away from a predator; desperately run towards a burning fire; and the predator stops, goes away". This is a brilliant scenario, and likely to be true. All mammals are learning creatures, but it seems the early hominids were better learners than the big, clever, and well-equipped predators. Maybe precisely because we didn't have big teeth, claws, huge powerful bodies, to rely on, we HAD to learn and think carefully even to survive and raise our young. I don't know what country you are in, but hope all is well for you. Greetings from Auckland, New Zealand. It's Autumn here, a beautiful time of year.

  • @kiancuratolo903
    @kiancuratolo903Ай бұрын

    Its so interesting that while the 'no single time and place' theory was disproven it had a kind of smaller resurrection with the qualifier 'no one time or place in Africa'

  • @threejaguar
    @threejaguarАй бұрын

    We do have a single point of original origin, but finding it will be difficult. At some point, our last common ancestor with the Chimp/ape line merged the 2nd and 3rd gene into one gene to form our line of descent.

  • @larrytuft9782
    @larrytuft978211 күн бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @dr.victorvs
    @dr.victorvsАй бұрын

    Map projections that aren't area-corrected, like Mercator's, would have made it look more unlikely that humans came from Africa, just due to how small it makes Africa seem. Africa is in fact 30.37 million km², compared to Europe's 10.53 million km².

  • @eclecticaaronbentley
    @eclecticaaronbentleyАй бұрын

    An informative and entertaining episode as usual, but what was up with the audio? It sounds like multiple sections were re-recorded away from the studio.

  • @djSpinege
    @djSpinege23 күн бұрын

    I Clicked on this just to say the title made me literally face palm.

  • @abhayanand9585
    @abhayanand958525 күн бұрын

    I love the work you too... I think no one in KZread makes content related to evolution, And Being Bio student I love learning about evolution! ❤❤❤

  • @xyzpdq1122
    @xyzpdq1122Ай бұрын

    No bad jokes!?!? Kallie…

  • @g-rexsaurus794
    @g-rexsaurus794Ай бұрын

    "other cultures had their own origin stories" And? They are not scientific

  • @hattielankford4775

    @hattielankford4775

    Ай бұрын

    Did you watch the video?

  • @g-rexsaurus794

    @g-rexsaurus794

    Ай бұрын

    @@hattielankford4775 I did, why? It's not particularly relevant

  • @davidschaftenaar6530

    @davidschaftenaar6530

    18 күн бұрын

    Ah, yes. That'll be the influence of a certain postmodern ideology that views evidence-based scientific theories as just another kind of story, no more or less valid than any other.

  • @kenwalker687

    @kenwalker687

    6 күн бұрын

    Religious mythology, I would not call "wrong" but it is not scientific. They may help you come closer to the devine.

  • @woodrow3147
    @woodrow3147Ай бұрын

    I feel smarter today, thanks EONS 🤓

  • @TheStrengthofBeer
    @TheStrengthofBeer28 күн бұрын

    This new hypothesis is so different (but fascinating) from what I've learned for the last 40 years. I like it! Our story keeps getting better.

  • @ConradSpoke
    @ConradSpoke17 күн бұрын

    Local people in Africa were "pushed out" and prevented from doing science? How did tribes without written languages or the wheel do scientific research?

  • @3zzzTyle

    @3zzzTyle

    12 күн бұрын

    @@hadiisaboss5307 Casually calling tribes inhuman

  • @mrrobototoo6663
    @mrrobototoo6663Ай бұрын

    If all these different population were able to interbreed with each other, then they were all part of the same species, as per the conventional biological species concept. The account you've given simply pushes back the question to what was the most recent common ancestor that all these population shared. Even the diagram at 10:15 has a single original stem.

  • @Lau3464l

    @Lau3464l

    Ай бұрын

    “Species” is a man-made construct. The lines between species can become incredibly blurry as we move further back in time.

  • @agab3asbgedsbef479

    @agab3asbgedsbef479

    21 күн бұрын

    @@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd yet those species “tions and “ligers” cant reproduce because theyre infertile if humans could reproduce with other subspecies and they would be infertile then those mixed species genes would never reach us because we cant reproduce with infertile people you know? infertile people die without kids even if we all reproduced with another subspecies we would just all be infertile and die go extinct

  • @anmlkvp
    @anmlkvpАй бұрын

    Excellent insight here 🙏🏿✍🏿💡

  • @multiyapples
    @multiyapples28 күн бұрын

    This is pretty cool to discover.

  • @LivingWithGout
    @LivingWithGout24 күн бұрын

    I know for a fact I came out of the great rift of Africa

  • @NachtmahrNebenan
    @NachtmahrNebenanАй бұрын

    Walking on two legs seems to have developed multiple times. But only we survived for still unknown reasons.

  • @michaelrunco5940

    @michaelrunco5940

    Ай бұрын

    Of course you mean specifically in apes.

  • @NachtmahrNebenan

    @NachtmahrNebenan

    Ай бұрын

    @@michaelrunco5940 Thank you for the addition 🌺

  • @nebulan

    @nebulan

    Ай бұрын

    I'm sure many factors. "It's complicated" covers much of science and history. Homo sapiens also has other advantages: throwing, sweat, cooking meat to support bigger brains, etc. I'm sad we don't know our ancient cousins today.

  • @colinmorris3526

    @colinmorris3526

    Ай бұрын

    In the video she mentions that one species did not replace all, rather through interbreeding amongst different populations that had the same origin(homo erectus) we are the surviving result of that happening, also all of the populations were upright and walked and their genes(or rather the best of those genes) survive amongst us.

  • @MorrisJohn-vo2vn

    @MorrisJohn-vo2vn

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@colinmorris3526 Effectively, one species replaced the other. Europeans as an example are like 1% or less Neanderthal on average. That's not Homo Sapien - Neanderthal hybrid, that's Homo Sapien.

  • @rachilarious
    @rachilarious28 күн бұрын

    Is that a Little Rooms necklace I see? Two of my favs in one!

  • @tanvirjalal4657
    @tanvirjalal4657Ай бұрын

    Excellent

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