There's No Single Cradle of Humankind
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It would take decades for paleontologists to realize that maybe there wasn’t just one so-called "cradle of humankind," and realize that maybe they’d been asking the wrong question all along.
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“It’s complicated.” Describes family dynamics at every level, apparently.
@applegal3058
Ай бұрын
Indeed lol
@mintybadger6905
Ай бұрын
Some traditions never die.
@petterbirgersson4489
Ай бұрын
Facebook relationship status.
@texasbeast239
Ай бұрын
Paleontological Family Court, With Judge Judy in the Sky Sheindlin
@SantiagoItzcoatl
Ай бұрын
embrace complexity or else
"ew just dinosaurs" - snooty anthropologists
@KhailSOLO
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@ydid687
Ай бұрын
Brother ughh What the hell brother
@netsherrera7193
Ай бұрын
"We just missed by a chunk of existance of life years" 🥲
@ryanreedgibson
Ай бұрын
Awesome avatar! Slava Ukraini! From Arizona, USA!
@eVill420
Ай бұрын
@@ryanreedgibson thanks for the support for Europe
Where did we come from? Where did we go? Where did we come from? Cotton Eye Joe.
@futuristica1710
Ай бұрын
😂
@dylansimpson7831
Ай бұрын
🫰🫰🫰
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
Ай бұрын
If I ever discover a fossil of an ancient hominid, I'll name it Cotton Eye Joe.
@fexcab
27 күн бұрын
🫡 great job
@Polloles
25 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
This is the sort of content that is great for the layperson who's been out of formal school for enough years and misses out on the current scientific consensus, especially when the last 5-10 years has had significant breakthroughs with DNA technology.
@RavensEagle
Ай бұрын
What is the current scientific consensus then smart guy?
@CombatComics
Ай бұрын
@@RavensEaglelmao what? Go read something.
@adronator
Ай бұрын
@@RavensEagle Current consensus is that we weren’t fashioned by a Sky Wizard out of mud and a rib.
@animatorofanimation128
29 күн бұрын
@@adronatorI love how atheism is just a personality type for some people. I mean without even being prompted they HAVE to insult religious people, like they are meeting their Reddit quota for the day
@douglemay7989
27 күн бұрын
@@animatorofanimation128 The culture war is raging.
In 2022, Japan's national museum of science in Ueno held a special exhibition on this exact topic which was amazing. From the failure in finding the origin of homosapien to their excellently successful collection of dinosaur fossils.
@PresidentEvil2
Ай бұрын
The Pacific was crossed 13,000 years ago by boat. Asians landed in south america
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
Ай бұрын
I guess one anthropologist's trash is another dinosaurologist's treasure.
@daltongalloway
23 күн бұрын
“Great now we have to make a theme park”
@yourhuckleberry6757
17 күн бұрын
Japan allied with Germany for multiple reasons. Look up endogenous Japanese.. Im sure they found what they were looking for.
I know I shouldn't giggle about it, but forgive me. The artists who make the CG renders of ancient hominids always go out of their way to censor their groins each and every time. it's just really funny to me to imagine them walking around and hunting always making sure to cover themselves from the perspective of any would-be viewers.
@nicholsonastrid
Ай бұрын
I'm glad somebody else noticed
@chrystals.4376
Ай бұрын
You never know if somebody is watching it on a bus.
@Renoroc
Ай бұрын
Perhaps clothing evolved to protect those areas from sharp teeth, hooves and horns?
@DrakeN-ow1im
Ай бұрын
Much of the blame for that can be accredited to the Abrahamic religions et al.
@ikebeckman1074
Ай бұрын
That gazelle’s ear was doing some heavy lifting for sure
I love that you guys include the historical background for these discoveries. It really helps contextualize them.
@judgeberry6071
Ай бұрын
As opposed to what?
@AnaphylaxisByPeanutBrittle
Ай бұрын
@@judgeberry6071as opposed to just saying "this team of people found this stuff". As opposed to not including historical background that does not provide any context or extra information.
The bottleneck that happens when a subset of a population migrates to a new habitat is more specifically called "founder effect" while what you might call a "classical bottleneck" happens due to population shrinkage like in cheetahs
@helenamcginty4920
Ай бұрын
I read a few years ago that our species did in fact hit a bottleneck about 70,000 yrs ago. We were down to about 1000 or so 'breeding pairs' according to one suggestion.
@LuisAldamiz
Ай бұрын
Founder effect is correct but bottleneck is also valid, as it's an analogy and not a precise technical term, also there's no substantive difference between the two phenomenons you exemplify: they both produce essentially the same results (some original genetics are removed from the result on "random" basis).
@zo5679
Ай бұрын
@@helenamcginty4920is it because the Toba eruptions?
@joycebrewer4150
22 күн бұрын
@helenamcginty4920 Less than a dozen pairs of humans at one point.
@aste4949
19 күн бұрын
@@joycebrewer4150Worst one was estimated down to 1,280 breeding individuals, still more than a dozen individuals thankfully. I'm definitely curious on which if any of the proposed bottleneck incidents get borne out by further research. Genetics is such a powerful tool!
The bottleneck of genes leaving Africa is really fascinating! Gives a whole new perspective on the diversity of life
@nakenmil
Ай бұрын
It's also a clear indicator why it's completely nonsensical to talk about "human races" sorted by continental origin (ie. Europeans, Asians, Africans, etc.), because the genetic diversity WITHIN Africa is far greater than the entire rest of the world. If I remember correctly, mitochondrial lineages have been traced back to a single split: there's the Khoi-San peoples of the Kalahari, and then there's... EVERYONE ELSE. So basically, a Zulu and an Inuit and a Frenchman and a Korean are all more closely related genetically than any of these are to the indigenous people of the Kalahari. Pretty wild.
@notaspeck6104
Ай бұрын
@nakenmil Literally. Like race and culture are two distinct things. The layman’s perception of race is dated and primitive.
@patreekotime4578
Ай бұрын
@@notaspeck6104It's almost like race is just a social construct.
@Gildedmuse
Ай бұрын
@@patreekotime4578Can we get maybe get some new plans to change up this construct? Just a little. You know take out some racism here, add some understanding of human evolution there....
@blazer9547
Ай бұрын
All non Africans are genetically similar
Lucy's distant cousins were estranged and didn't want to be found
@koreyb
26 күн бұрын
Lucy took the secret of why Homo Erectus all died out to her grave. But I think we could all guess why. If you know what I mean.
'braided stream' is a very nice turn of phrase, i heartily approve
I wrote my Master's thesis on the initial human settlement of Australia and its implications for the Multiregional and Out-of-Africa models. This video feels very familiar. That could also be because I taught Intro to Human Evolution at a community college for 15 years lol.
@atmanebedjou8455
Ай бұрын
A lot of speculation but no evidence. A theory built on speculation.
@krizcillz
Ай бұрын
i'm curious, what did your thesis suggest on dates and speciation?
@andrabook8758
Ай бұрын
I still think that all the hypotheses are incomplete. It still leave a LOT open to interpretations. To me the 1 source for all evolution has never made sense. It does not hold water for any of the other species.
@DesmondKarani
24 күн бұрын
@@atmanebedjou8455 There's a lot of evidence on this theory. What alternative theory do you have? I'm curious.
@MungoManic
13 күн бұрын
Is it published somewhere? I'd love to read it!
When she called the dinosaur find "failure", I have heard it in Steven He's voice, loud and reverberating. 😂 I don't know if my brains instant association is cool or disturbing.
@danielpicassomunoz2752
Ай бұрын
Faaaaaaliiiure
@joebwannabe
Ай бұрын
What da hail did you say
@jaidadeclouette1989
Ай бұрын
I love that guy!
@petsgamesandrobots438
Ай бұрын
Emotional daaamaage!
@alfaseng
Ай бұрын
"Faaaaiiiiiluuureeee. Already dead due to asteroid haiyaa, my ancestors the rats can survive a measly rock from space, let alone your cousin Timmy can survive Earth tossed out of orbit." ~ Steven He, probably
The cradle of mankind needs renaming “the classroom of mankind”
@DSAK55
Ай бұрын
school yard of mankind
@almightyyt2101
20 күн бұрын
YoMTv Welcome to another episode of Mankinds Crib!
@RBzee112
6 күн бұрын
The syllabus of civilization
I thought this was building to the "Out of Africa Again and Again" model which largely synthesizes the two described.
Gosh I feel incredibly validated, as I disagreed about all this with my archaeology professor back in 2002 haha. The idea of only 1 wave once was always dumb to me.
@orbitalvagabond7371
Ай бұрын
Well, it was only the one wave that survived extinction, unless you mean the minority genetic share of the other two species.
@Idellphany
Ай бұрын
@@orbitalvagabond7371 "In May 2023, scientists reported, based on genetic studies, a more complicated pathway of human evolution than previously understood. According to the studies, humans evolved from different places and times in Africa, instead of from a single location and period of time." wikipedia Also why would you ever think genetics is static? (as in it hasn't changed in 300k years) The fact that we see any other hominid dna still after how many bottle necks and 300,000 years of dna recombination is very notable.
@Idellphany
Ай бұрын
@@orbitalvagabond7371 We are only now starting to sequence really old DNA and we will get a much better picture once this process is further explored.
@krizcillz
Ай бұрын
Suffer together, had a similar experience. Archeology teachers seem to be a bad lot 😂
@LuisAldamiz
Ай бұрын
@@Idellphany - Whatever: that's just empty chatter. A typical European "multiregional" genetics is 2.4% (all of it Neanderthal and not even from European Neanderthals but Asian ones rather) and, with lesser variations, it's the same for all the rest of humans. In short: we are still more than 95% uniregional, from the Nile region to be specific.
Pls do an episode on India when it was an island during the mesozoic after breaking off from Gondwana.
@tim.a.k.mertens
Ай бұрын
Omg yes I'm so curious about this
@1331423
Ай бұрын
The Common Descent podcast has a great episode about this! Give them a try
@KellyClowers
Ай бұрын
@@1331423 second that! They do great deep dives on all kinds of paleo/evolution/zoology things (and botany with Dr. Aly Baumgartner)
@ibrav7979
24 күн бұрын
@@1331423episode number?
It was not linear, nor a tree, but more of a bush. Many, many starts and stops and mixing.
@brothermine2292
Ай бұрын
Isn't the topology of a bush the same as the topology of a tree? A better analogy might be a web, which has interconnections between strands.
@ecurewitz
Ай бұрын
Or a braided stream as mentioned
@Bubble-Foam
13 күн бұрын
@@brothermine2292 Yeah, only difference between a bush and a tree is height.
@Naguib55
8 күн бұрын
@@brothermine2292 In a tree each node has one path back to the root. in a "bush" which is not a scientific term. Nodes can have multiple paths from the root to them or there can be no root at all.
@brothermine2292
8 күн бұрын
>AhmedNaguib1 : The definition of "bush" is "a large plant that is smaller than a tree and has many branches." That has the same topology as a tree. What definition are you using instead? You might want to consider trimming your bush.
"Ningún humano es una isla" Tremendo
@patrickf.4440
29 күн бұрын
A more accurate Spanish translation of John Donne's poem would be, "Ningún hombre es una isla." But I am sure Donne meant no hominid is an island .
Taung Child looks like my little brother if he had facial hair at 8.
This year is the 50th anniversary of discovering Lucy!
Where did we come from? Where did we go? Where did we come from, human anthro?
The last I heard ... homo sapiens left Africa in multiple waves mixing with the various types of homonids who were already around the world.
"sir we found dinosaur fossil" "You're failure"
6:20 Love this shot showing just how big Africa is. Maps dont always capture just how big many places are.
@ttt5020
10 күн бұрын
I wouldn't say so, it's just not far enough away from Earth? Africa doesn't take up half the globe. It's the same way that looking down from a building shows 'how big' the city is, since it appears to be half of the earth assuming the rest is on the other half. Same illusion as the timestamp
i’ve watched every video yall have, i’ve been watching since day one. I love you guys, thank you all for always giving me something educational to look forward too, it’s made my life a lot easier than yall could ever know
There is something humbling about watching these videos. It really puts into perspective how all of our ancestors have not been struggling for better lives for decades or centuries but rather millions of years.
I miss Steve.
@michaelpdawson
Ай бұрын
I think that every time they read the names!
@erdood3235
Ай бұрын
What happened to him?
@michaelmayhem350
Ай бұрын
Me too but my aim is improving
@samh9436
Ай бұрын
Same.
@BonaparteBardithion
Ай бұрын
@@erdood3235 We don't really have a way of knowing. I would guess a change in financial situation.
7:54 one great argument against stereotypes. A group people can't really "all be a certain way" when genetics show just how different people actually are. :)
@katelynnehansen8115
Ай бұрын
We’re just as different as we are the same. It’s startling to think what a small portion of our DNA responsible for our mosaic of unique traits.
@Bubble-Foam
13 күн бұрын
@@katelynnehansen8115 It’s “small” in comparison to the sheer quantity of dna that does either really basic functions, or nothing at all.
@xirsixussien7303
10 күн бұрын
People who belong to a certain culture behave in a similar way.
@TragoudistrosMPH
10 күн бұрын
@@xirsixussien7303 oh? For example, how does your culture collectively behave?
@ancientalemanni
8 күн бұрын
@@TragoudistrosMPHif you can’t accept the statement people who belong to a certain culture behave a certain way, then the word culture has no meaning. It’s literally the definition of culture for Christ’s sake
i love this channel hopefully when i’m a paleontologist i can be a host
@Adi-8529
Ай бұрын
That’s such a super ambition!!!
@zantetsu8674
Ай бұрын
@@Adi-8529 The paleontologist part or the KZread host part? I know which one *I* think is a worthwhile ambition ...
I much prefer the interwoven braid type idea for our lineage; it seems a LOT more logical given what we know about evolution in general terms. Too, I reallllly think the initial ideas that there could be only one "correct human lineage" was rooted in some fairly unpleasant assumptions. Things the scientists at the time might not even have been aware of (or seen as a problem) but that definitely shaped HOW they looked for evidence and what they were willing to accept AS evidence. Which you did mention but I felt like pointing out that the systems of colonialism really did (and do) extend right through every single thing Western science has done. Glad to see us slowly but steadily shedding those old bad habits.
@chriswatson7965
Ай бұрын
I don't understand your post. First you say that you prefer the braided model, then you say that there isn't a correct model and imply that believing that there can be a correct model is bad science. Please explain.
@tsopmocful1958
Ай бұрын
This video and your comment try to emphasise colonialism whenever mentioning Western history as though it defines all of Western history - including our scientific history. Please keep in mind that things like studying and discovering the origin of human species wouldn't have even gone beyond the level of local myths in the first place if it wasn't for the Scientific Revolution initiated by the West and still largely carried by the West.
@kyrab7914
29 күн бұрын
There was also a lot of phrenology- reading the bumps of the skull to determine intelligence of ppl. Also influenced by our friend racism and subsequently debunked
@Dotsetc
21 күн бұрын
@@tsopmocful1958I feel like only you assumed that because you mightve felt uncomfortable by it. Yes when it comes to subjects like this, racist undertones or full blown racism was quite a standard in the West from the 18th century on. They even purposefully did it to create a superiority idea backed by 'factual evidence' to the degree too many Western people believe these theories to be true to this very day. Doesnt mean the West hasnt contributed greatly. They just also destroyed reason just as much whenever it benefitted them.
@davidschaftenaar6530
18 күн бұрын
@@Dotsetc What motivated the person's reply is irrelevant, how many people share their views is irrelevant. They either have a point or they don't. And in this case, I think this person _does_ have a point. You're asserting that Western colonialism and the hair brained attempts at justifying it were and (to a significant extent) still are the dominant influence when it comes to paleoanthropology and many other fields. Even prioritizing that influence above that of reason. That simply isn't true. If that were the case, we would never have ended up with a scientific consensus that so thoroughly invalidates both the concept of racial superiority/inferiority and the entire concept of race as a biologically meaningful way of categorizing human beings. The reason those ideas are no longer accepted as scientifically valid (which, very true, they once were) is because, when scientists in the West were presented with the choice between following the evidence, or clinging to views that conveniently validated their worldview and their own position in the existing social hierarchy: They largely chose to follow the evidence.
I'd be thrilled to find dinosaur bones. Maybe I should start digging up my back yard.
@xINVISIGOTHx
Ай бұрын
I wish I lived somewhere where dinosaurs lived. I'd be digging all the time
@bradw.1945
Ай бұрын
No dinosaurs where I live either. The land was totally scoured by glacier activity. Everything left is either younger than a million years or from the Pleistocene.
@smalltime0
Ай бұрын
@@bradw.1945 That's the main issue, also it'd have to be the right conditions to preserve a fossil in the first place.
@istvansipos9940
Ай бұрын
KFC chicken wings. With bonus dinosaur bones
@DarthChewie
Ай бұрын
@@bradw.1945 Unless I'm missing something, that seems like a pretty roundabout way of saying 'everything left is younger than 2.6 millions years'... Also, have you tried digging deeper? But learn from my mistakes: When you hit mantle, you've gone too far. It melted my shovel.
i LOVE learning about ancient humans
Thank you VERY MUCH for this explanation! 🙏
Easily one of the best popular science channels out there, thank you for amazing, detailed, nuanced and critical content! PS if you guys bring back the Eons t-shirts I'll buy one instantly lol
🎉🎉Always celebrate a new Eons video!
Great presentation as usual. Eloquent and informative.
Excellent video, thanks !!
ach release is like a gift! Thank you for your labor.
Great video! Learned a lot. Thanks
Thank you so much for making such enlightening content!
Delightfully informative video👍🏾
My fridge is the crade of new fungi-kind
@noneyabizz8337
Ай бұрын
Lol, you edited and the comment is still bad
@philipblount2561
Ай бұрын
Bet. We're sending a team to your location.
@CdFMasterVideo
Ай бұрын
Wait till in interbreeds with mine
@rabidpichu7391
Ай бұрын
Odd flex, but okay
@rabidpichu7391
Ай бұрын
Lmao jk can totally relate
I love these Super difficult to answer questions. It's really fun to try to comprehend those tens of thousands of years have gone into the evolution of our species, And all of the species before them
Thanks for this video! I am a student and I am writing a paper and about to start a PhD about this subject.
Great video! Thank you for informing me on our (human's) history.
Early misdirection on where to look also came from religious ideas like the Garden of Eden (& literalists actually expecting to find it).
@sophiejones3554
Ай бұрын
Yep, that definitely played into the whole "Lemuria" thing. People really wanted to find a Garden of Eden type origin, in order to reconcile their religious beliefs with science.
@simontmn
9 күн бұрын
There does seem to be evidence now that agriculture and towns both started in eastern Turkey in the traditional "garden of Eden" area. I guess that's when we ate the apple. :)
@sophiejones3554
9 күн бұрын
@@simontmn that's only *one* of the places those things were invented. What the actual evidence shows is that there were multiple origin points for human civilizations. The only scrap of truth in the "Garden of Eden" idea is that these places were all around big rivers where many types of resources were available all year round. The vastly different ways that people organized their civilizations however, reflect the different staple crops and other conditions (such as the flooding patterns of the rivers) around them. People had already spread to every continent well before anything resembling a civilization existed anywhere, so all the major civilization centers grew up independently. That is, although the conditions in the Fertile Crescent accelerated the growth of city-states, the idea of a city-state very much did NOT radiate out from there. It was invented multiple times independently.
@simontmn
9 күн бұрын
@@sophiejones3554 "that's only one of the places those things were invented" - True, but does seem to be the oldest though! Certainly the oldest known.
@chemquests
9 күн бұрын
@@simontmn “garden of Eden area”??? Why would anyone have an expectation of where that would be? Anywhere you find earliest settlements you could claim post hoc to be such an area. I used the term misdirection intentionally as the entire story is a red herring.
For a long time the consensus was that humans anatomically similar to us first emerged 200,000 years ago, it’s amazing how this video already has updated information stating that it was as farther back as 300,000 years ago. I also read that from a book called “The science of being human.” It’s fascinating how science is a continual quest for knowledge.
Mood changed… great day…. New video from eons 🎉🎉
Great vid! So informative I was always confused by the different areas considered cradles of civilization va cradles of our species and etc
7:53 is when she gets to the point
Great insights, such complexity!
So Africa was so harsh that our prehistoric ancestors evolved better brains to figure out how to cope with the challenges?
@LovelyRobotFigurine-lr5pu
Ай бұрын
😂😅😂
@userJohnSmith
9 күн бұрын
We stood up and freed our hands because the rain forests dried out. That led to a more efficient body design (seriously no one can or distance us). That left more energy and an amazing tool (dextrous hands)for our brains to make use of. So kinda yeah.
Thank you for recognizing indigenous people at the ends of your episodes. I have been watching the show for years, and appreciate this sooo much. Also, I miss the jokes....
@chiccngeorge3058
29 күн бұрын
This entire video was about indigenous peoples lmao I don’t see how you people can think there’s a difference from native Africans and any other native group on earth.
I absolutely LOVE these early human videos! So cool!! 💜
Love it! Reminded me of my anthropology class in high school
So cool! Ty
3:26 I love that you put the science in the context of history! ❤ -happy patron!
Hm- you mention the common ancestor between humans and chimps a few times, but I think it's important to specify- that's actually the human-chimp-bonobo common ancestor! That species split into humans and chimp-bonobos, the latter only much later splitting into chimps and bonobos. Chimps and bonobos are like siblings, and humans are like their cousin. I think it's especially important due to the differences between bonobos and chimps, to whom we are equally related. For example, bonobos eat mostly fruits and plants and are peaceful, as opposed to the more omnivorous and war-like chimpanzee. This could be an interesting video topic!
This video was so needed!
I love how they manage to send "the message" no matter what they are talking about
@richardb8104
11 күн бұрын
It's why PBS jumped the shark many years ago friend. Too much message, and not enough actual science.
@hsmd4533
10 күн бұрын
It’s PBS. Their main goal is always The Message.
@TheCognitiveDissident
8 күн бұрын
What the heck is “the message?“ (genuinely wondering).
I love this channel
I love this video! I very much enjoyed this one.
2:13 When I was a teenager (30+ years ago) the estimate for divergence from chimpanzees and bonobos was 2 or 3 mya, according to what I remember reading at the time. Of course, at the time, we also thought New World monkeys were more closely related to Old World monkeys than either group is to apes, and that the ape lineage split off before that split, so monkeys and apes were two different clades. Now I know that genomics and cellular studies have conclusively demonstrated that New World monkeys split off from the Old World monkey lineage much earlier than we did, and apes are also in the monkey clade.
@LuisAldamiz
Ай бұрын
Should be at least 8 million years, notably because Sahelanthropus is already very clearly in our line and not theirs (upright walking, some brain features like us even if it was still a small brain). Various more serious estimates are between 8 Ma to maybe as much as 17 Ma (I lean for 10-12 Ma). A key calibration point is the split between chimps and bonobos, which must coincide with the formation of the Congo River basin, which is not precisely dated but probably c. 1.7 Ma ago.
'No human is an island' I like that statement
@ktspirit1
Ай бұрын
No Man is an Island. A poem by John Donne.
@aashutoshmule
Ай бұрын
@@ktspirit1 Oh...I did not know that...thanks for sharing. Will read the poem.
@atomictraveller
19 күн бұрын
i was gonna debate but ur right, once ur an island, they call you a demon or some other shi not man then they HSS you from the FUSION center
now I need to know why that guy thought we came from an island that sank into the indian ocean it seems like such a wild idea to pull outve nowhere
@smalltime0
Ай бұрын
The idea predated the notion of plate tectonics and continental drift. Its seems easy to discredit with hindsight (we have tools like seismology and 'advanced' genetic testing), but basically everyone was looking to explain why its very obvious that we are one species - but why are there such radical racial differences. Its easy enough to explain Afro-Eurasia being fine, but you have people in the Americas, Oceania and the Pacific that wouldn't have been in contact with each other for millennia. Islands at the time were known to rise and fall on occasion and Lemuria sort of bridged India to Australia and Madagascar. The other cut off islands would have been the result of smaller bridges that had since disappeared. The basis of the wild speculation is that the Lemur are in Madagascar and India but not Africa, its not the only animal where that's true. And the theory isn't that wild when you consider during the ice age there were actually land bridges/shallower waters which did enable migration of humans (and for horses to get to asia before going extinct in the americas)
@ldbarthel
Ай бұрын
I wouldn't say out of nowhere. There is an antecedent in the account of Atlantis from Plato. Also, the idea of a global flood as described in Genesis still had adherents. (FWIW, it's far more likely that the various flood narratives are based on local catastrophic events, although there is also some cross-pollination between cultures in the structure and details of the stories.)
@smalltime0
Ай бұрын
@@ldbarthel Also the sea people in the Bronze Age collapse
@LuisAldamiz
Ай бұрын
Ever heard of "the lost continent of Lemuria"? Well, you didn't miss much, but that's what passed as respectable science a century ago or so...
@smalltime0
Ай бұрын
@@LuisAldamiz wow you got what the OP was talking about. Its easy to dismiss in the age of seismology and hydrology and the like, but trying to explain observable facts, using observable facts... Lemuria makes sense.
Kallie Moore, thank you for a wonderfully presented program. I also know that some of your own researches may have been used in the programming. Lots of hard work from all of you. Absolutely well thought out explanation that takes into account all the contradictory theories, and yet unites them. We can call it - The Unifying theory of Homo Sapiens evolution. - lol. But, it is the only concept that takes into account genetic, geological, Time scales and physical fossil distributions.
This is. one of my top fav videos thus far
Was Lemuria full of Golem people and loved music and symphonies?? (I am kidding,, It's a game reference)..
@texasbeast239
Ай бұрын
Poor Sméagol, we barely knew ye.
@notimetolive12
Ай бұрын
@@texasbeast239 I was talking about Genshin, not Lotr.. It's Golem, not gollum.. But anyway, happy day 😊
@misterbadguy7325
Ай бұрын
Lemuria got picked up in occultism, hence it tends to show up in that kind of literature.
@MegaJessness
Ай бұрын
Naw, Lemuria was totally full of ancient humans who had alchemy figured out and were mostly water Adepts :D
Hella early and very excited for this episode. Thank you for helping advance the march of Knowledge!
Great episode as normal!
As always..., thanks
She's so cute, in a science way.
@futuristica1710
Ай бұрын
True. Smart and beautiful.
Yeah, life is often not that simple.
Thank you.
Thank you
Brb. Gotta watch the Kendrick video and come back 4:57
@5:40 does anyone else hear a Red-winged blackbird?
@stopdacap2991
Ай бұрын
I definitely heard it.
@GillianMStarlight
Ай бұрын
It sounds like one, at least it's not the red-tailed hawk sound that almost always gets dubbed over bald eagles. It helps that I saw and heard maybe dozens of them last Sunday.
Great content!!!
so fascinating
The origin of Fire and Art might be further back in history than we thought and neither are homo sapiens in origin. Fire--some mild evidence points to Homo erectus and art might date before us contemporary humans (And no, it's not Neanderthal--there is evidence it goes back even further according to one doc I saw). ^^ Sticking in my anthro degree stick for maybe future episodes.
@kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061
Ай бұрын
@@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd They found some mild evidence for fire pits for Homo Erectus which shows ability to control fire, though this is kinda disputed, we are 100% sure it's Homo Heidelbergensis had it. The lava idea I haven't heard widespread that much, but early settlements did set up near large deposits. But looked it up... sounds like you're referring to "Speculations about the Effects of Fire and Lava Flows on Human Evolution" by Michael Medler? I should note his main field of study is Geography (Which also deals with humanity as well), but there isn't much follow up to back him quite yet and most of his ideas are speculation if you read his paper carefully. But finding hard evidence would be difficult. Homo Naledi according to the Netflix documentary about them had art. Which just blows your mind. But Neanderthal (whose classification is under dispute) also had art. So this might argue that we're missing art of our early human ancestors? Given how Naledi art is much like later art in caves, it leaves a lot of questions.
@franceshorton918
Ай бұрын
Just following along your thoughts about early hominids being familiar with fire, long enough to learn about it.... WHT didn't other animals learn to be 'not afraid' of fire? Lions, wolves, bears, and gorillas,, etc, they are all very intelligent mammals. I know we had opposable thumbs, but t would they have been ready for the fine muscle control and the care needed to avoid burns? Most non domesticated animals avoid fire
@kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061
Ай бұрын
@@franceshorton918 Other animals, especially on the open savannah, likely were used to being surrounded by fire, but with the inability to *control* it. For humans (in the deleted reply for whatever reason even though the deleted reply had nothing threatening or mean in it but was pure academia and was merely citing sources without any links) the evolution of the hominin brain might have depended very much on cooked meat from several supporting articles. In another words, there is a link between bigger brains and meat, though there is also the sea hypothesis out there too. The ability to control fire would help kill all sorts of things in the food: parasites, harmful bacteria, and also give defense. So yes, those thumbs probably played a role over time with the control of fire.
@kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061
Ай бұрын
@@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd I gave a reply and a pretty decent one with papers linked, but the reply got deleted. ^^ Uhhh... maybe they wanted to use the info I put into it. But yeah, the paper you're referring to is from a geographer rather than an anthropologist. Not naming the paper again, 'cause last time it got deleted. (There was nothing mean in the reply either. All I did was give you citations without links... so ummm. dun know.)
@franceshorton918
Ай бұрын
@@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd Thanks Toxic, I really liked your initial visualisation of "running away from a predator; desperately run towards a burning fire; and the predator stops, goes away". This is a brilliant scenario, and likely to be true. All mammals are learning creatures, but it seems the early hominids were better learners than the big, clever, and well-equipped predators. Maybe precisely because we didn't have big teeth, claws, huge powerful bodies, to rely on, we HAD to learn and think carefully even to survive and raise our young. I don't know what country you are in, but hope all is well for you. Greetings from Auckland, New Zealand. It's Autumn here, a beautiful time of year.
Its so interesting that while the 'no single time and place' theory was disproven it had a kind of smaller resurrection with the qualifier 'no one time or place in Africa'
We do have a single point of original origin, but finding it will be difficult. At some point, our last common ancestor with the Chimp/ape line merged the 2nd and 3rd gene into one gene to form our line of descent.
Thanks!
Map projections that aren't area-corrected, like Mercator's, would have made it look more unlikely that humans came from Africa, just due to how small it makes Africa seem. Africa is in fact 30.37 million km², compared to Europe's 10.53 million km².
An informative and entertaining episode as usual, but what was up with the audio? It sounds like multiple sections were re-recorded away from the studio.
I Clicked on this just to say the title made me literally face palm.
I love the work you too... I think no one in KZread makes content related to evolution, And Being Bio student I love learning about evolution! ❤❤❤
No bad jokes!?!? Kallie…
"other cultures had their own origin stories" And? They are not scientific
@hattielankford4775
Ай бұрын
Did you watch the video?
@g-rexsaurus794
Ай бұрын
@@hattielankford4775 I did, why? It's not particularly relevant
@davidschaftenaar6530
18 күн бұрын
Ah, yes. That'll be the influence of a certain postmodern ideology that views evidence-based scientific theories as just another kind of story, no more or less valid than any other.
@kenwalker687
6 күн бұрын
Religious mythology, I would not call "wrong" but it is not scientific. They may help you come closer to the devine.
I feel smarter today, thanks EONS 🤓
This new hypothesis is so different (but fascinating) from what I've learned for the last 40 years. I like it! Our story keeps getting better.
Local people in Africa were "pushed out" and prevented from doing science? How did tribes without written languages or the wheel do scientific research?
@3zzzTyle
12 күн бұрын
@@hadiisaboss5307 Casually calling tribes inhuman
If all these different population were able to interbreed with each other, then they were all part of the same species, as per the conventional biological species concept. The account you've given simply pushes back the question to what was the most recent common ancestor that all these population shared. Even the diagram at 10:15 has a single original stem.
@Lau3464l
Ай бұрын
“Species” is a man-made construct. The lines between species can become incredibly blurry as we move further back in time.
@agab3asbgedsbef479
21 күн бұрын
@@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd yet those species “tions and “ligers” cant reproduce because theyre infertile if humans could reproduce with other subspecies and they would be infertile then those mixed species genes would never reach us because we cant reproduce with infertile people you know? infertile people die without kids even if we all reproduced with another subspecies we would just all be infertile and die go extinct
Excellent insight here 🙏🏿✍🏿💡
This is pretty cool to discover.
I know for a fact I came out of the great rift of Africa
Walking on two legs seems to have developed multiple times. But only we survived for still unknown reasons.
@michaelrunco5940
Ай бұрын
Of course you mean specifically in apes.
@NachtmahrNebenan
Ай бұрын
@@michaelrunco5940 Thank you for the addition 🌺
@nebulan
Ай бұрын
I'm sure many factors. "It's complicated" covers much of science and history. Homo sapiens also has other advantages: throwing, sweat, cooking meat to support bigger brains, etc. I'm sad we don't know our ancient cousins today.
@colinmorris3526
Ай бұрын
In the video she mentions that one species did not replace all, rather through interbreeding amongst different populations that had the same origin(homo erectus) we are the surviving result of that happening, also all of the populations were upright and walked and their genes(or rather the best of those genes) survive amongst us.
@MorrisJohn-vo2vn
Ай бұрын
@@colinmorris3526 Effectively, one species replaced the other. Europeans as an example are like 1% or less Neanderthal on average. That's not Homo Sapien - Neanderthal hybrid, that's Homo Sapien.
Is that a Little Rooms necklace I see? Two of my favs in one!
Excellent