There are NO Universal Human Rights. British Conservatism is Rooted in History NOT Religion.

Fresh from his speech to the "NatCon" National Conservatism Conference, Dr. David Starkey returns to the New Culture Forum for a fascinating and wide-ranging discussion on various topics related to conservatism, British identity, religion, history, so-called "universal rights" and the primacy of the nation state.
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  • @NewCultureForum
    @NewCultureForum Жыл бұрын

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  • @hairzilla
    @hairzilla Жыл бұрын

    I have always found it interesting that the left gives their full backing to Muslims to pursue an ultra conservative agenda. No other group gets that sort of arrangement

  • @KopperNeoman

    @KopperNeoman

    Жыл бұрын

    It's conditional. The use for the Muslims is to kill Christians. China does not need Muslims to do that, and is therefore content to stuff them into concentration camps.

  • @edwinamendelssohn5129

    @edwinamendelssohn5129

    Жыл бұрын

    Skin color

  • @rogerwoodhouse7945

    @rogerwoodhouse7945

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed but are they aware of that I wonder?

  • @divvy1400yam600

    @divvy1400yam600

    Жыл бұрын

    At it's route his lam is dangerous. The left (along with us all ) MAY well experience it. A few years to go though

  • @carpediem3391

    @carpediem3391

    Жыл бұрын

    I have said this for years, how the hard left let’s the hard right get away with just about murder just because of skin colour makes no sense.

  • @beesoon956
    @beesoon956 Жыл бұрын

    Dr. David Starkey, one of the most knowledgeable Historians of British/European History, on the planet. Superb!!!

  • @youtubefans510

    @youtubefans510

    Жыл бұрын

    indeed, and yet he is depicted as a dinosaur , with views that belong in the past , out of touch with reality etc. they may even depict him as closet racist

  • @bigbarry8343

    @bigbarry8343

    Жыл бұрын

    I adore him too, but he included porkies about the history of "Russia" and "Germany". Bernays would be proud.

  • @paulsmith1981
    @paulsmith1981 Жыл бұрын

    The explosive compound that blew Yugoslavia to pieces was its multiculturalism. And in last weeks local elections in Northern Ireland the people there did not vote for the party with the best policies but along ethnic lines. What is really mind boggling is the fact multicultural ideology does not stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny yet it became the central policy of the government.

  • @stepheneurosailor1623

    @stepheneurosailor1623

    Жыл бұрын

    It goes deeper than government policy.

  • @BDevine64

    @BDevine64

    Жыл бұрын

    Slavs have historical chops on their shoulder.

  • @MDM1992

    @MDM1992

    Жыл бұрын

    What better excuse to take away peoples rights than allow hundreds of thousands of terrorists in, wait for them to gather and start attacking then say "oh my, we have an internal terrorist threat, so heres some new legislstion.." legislation which makes all citizens rights null and void, allows them to assume anyone a terrorist and detain them indefinitely.. you know for things like speaking bad about the government or drawing attention to their corruption.. oh extremist terrorist lock them up.. its all part of the plan my friend. And the only way to stop it is to revolt. Tens of millions of us lining the streets to take their power from them by any means necessary. This so called "democracy" is authoritarianism with a very thin vale of democracy over its ugly face. But the masses don't see that, orwell's 1984 levels of brainwashed.

  • @richardenders6606

    @richardenders6606

    Жыл бұрын

    Very well expressed and blindingly obvious to all but the deluded who do not understand that human nature cannot be changed by decree, presumably because those who are able to enforce such decrees are psychotics who by definition don't do human

  • @tylerdurden4289

    @tylerdurden4289

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe it was doomed to fail deliberately. If your goal was to create a global, and borderless , monochrome society, then destroying a culture from within would be a good contribution toward this aim.

  • @frankjackal
    @frankjackal Жыл бұрын

    "our girls are going to dress up just like whores in New York". 😂😂😂 Quote of the week for me 😅😅😅

  • @d.marques4700
    @d.marques470011 ай бұрын

    Great conversation, Dr. Starkey! Yes, forced "MultiCulturalism" will NEVER be the solution! On the contrary, it will deepen division and mistrust...

  • @autumnleaves2766
    @autumnleaves2766 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent discussion. If only David Starkey was in charge of the teaching of history in this country. So many British people lack even a basic knowledge of their country's history.

  • @autumnleaves2766

    @autumnleaves2766

    8 ай бұрын

    @@bonniebluebell5940 Great post, well said.

  • @bonniebluebell5940

    @bonniebluebell5940

    8 ай бұрын

    I could have have skipped college and university back in the seventies and saved myself oodles of time and money...not to mention, a whole lot of angst. I was a voracious reader and top student all through elementary and high school. I still remember passages from one little gem of a book on the "History of Great Britain" in Grade 7 whereas ask me what I learned in sociology, anthropology, or political science and all that I can dredge up is a bunch of mumbo jumbo based upon post-modern humanism, much of it out of touch with the true essence of man in the real world. Glad that I got back on track... thanks to the Bible and others who set me straight. It is much worse nowadays. After decades of Socialism / Cultural Marxism, Canada has embraced the cult of the "woke"...."Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad." Hats off to Enoch Powel...He predicted the future but didn't go far enough. It exceeded his wildest fears.

  • @clarkramsey7280
    @clarkramsey7280 Жыл бұрын

    DAVID STARKEY SHOULD BE ON THE REFORM TICKET .

  • @Sam-gw5pl

    @Sam-gw5pl

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be interesting

  • @clarkramsey7280

    @clarkramsey7280

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Sam-gw5pl JUST THINK THE MAN IS AN ABSOLUTE GENIUS .🇬🇧

  • @Noseypoke-mr7th

    @Noseypoke-mr7th

    Жыл бұрын

    Starkey's got more sense than to join a MARXIST/FABIAN SCHILL PARTY

  • @wiggawithattitude

    @wiggawithattitude

    Жыл бұрын

    Voting is pointless, democracy is a lie. We should be using these points to destroy the system, not take part in it.

  • @Sjoldschool
    @Sjoldschool Жыл бұрын

    I agree… nobody should have another culture forced on them. I don’t visit certain countries because of their cultural differences to ourselves. Chalk and cheese. I’m not in favour of the same culture colonising parts of my city and forcing native peoples out. That’s what is happening because integration doesn’t work.

  • @BDevine64

    @BDevine64

    Жыл бұрын

    The Conservatives cabinet has an over representation of 1st and second generation Indians, under Johnson it was a tenfold over representation. I’m guessing you don’t question that despite India having an extremely corrupt and unequal culture? Not to mention Hindutva, Hindu fascism.

  • @traceyculyer5811

    @traceyculyer5811

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alanmarr3323 Did you marry one.

  • @traceyculyer5811

    @traceyculyer5811

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alanmarr3323 If you are married to one that's fine with me but, do not lecture people on their prejudices and call them ignorant, when you your self are also prejudice against them. You are ignorant of the fact, that you can not accept that we do not appreciate our history and culture destroyed all for the sake of allowing other cultures to run and destroy the U.K. Some of us have studied other cultures, so do Not be so racist to white people.

  • @Sjoldschool

    @Sjoldschool

    Жыл бұрын

    @@traceyculyer5811 you took the words right out of my mouth…..🤣🤣. And you were 100% spot on. He admitted it too 😂🤣

  • @Sjoldschool

    @Sjoldschool

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alanmarr3323 one should never dip one’s quill in another cultures ink. Is she a Tai lady??🤭

  • @liamrobinson2084
    @liamrobinson2084 Жыл бұрын

    What a brilliant conversation! Starkey is fantastic, as always, and Whittle has the amazing and rare wisdom to give him room to speak! Bravo!

  • @richardenders6606

    @richardenders6606

    Жыл бұрын

    Whittle's non-confrontational style works superbly with Starkey as the result is more of a conversation and the viewer can listen to uninterrupted wisdom and wit It is always a joy to watch DS having a row with whomsoever but sometimes it is better to just have an unbroken flow, he should be appreciated while he is still with us as like an intellectual Max Miller there will never be another missus, hopefully he can have an argument with himself in the heaven he doesn't believe in o

  • @Lewisevans1618
    @Lewisevans1618 Жыл бұрын

    You really have to ask yourself, how many takeaways and deliveroo riders does one country need?

  • @Pwecko

    @Pwecko

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't forget all the Turkish and Kurdish barbers. There are five in my small town.

  • @Lewisevans1618

    @Lewisevans1618

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Pwecko indeed. The housing situation is very depressing. Everything in England is so bloody expensive. After being an Englishman with hundreds of years of ancestry paying into the system I can no longer live in my home root city of London for work. Unless I want to pay a grand a month for a bed sit surrounded by illegals partying all night shouting at each other. It’s an absolute bloody disgrace.

  • @reasonablespeculation3893

    @reasonablespeculation3893

    Жыл бұрын

    Or you could ask, how long can a tribe last as it espouses below replacement fertility. Those who, in the past were wives and mothers, have been given the freedom to live a lifestyle formerly restricted to an unmarried man.... the result: women prefer such a life. Replacement will happen, just as water flows downhill. Demographics is destiny.

  • @Lewisevans1618

    @Lewisevans1618

    Жыл бұрын

    @@reasonablespeculation3893 precisely and the woke cultural Marxist feminist doctrine has created a catastrophe. Tricking women to peruse a career and not a family then discover they are dispensable and their boss never cared about them. Feminising men to not lead a family, pushing the alphabet agenda endlessly to the young. The brain drain of highly educated indigenous people abroad. If this country had healthy tradition values then it would be developing nicely. The replacements are from traditional cultures with conservative values that’s quiet alright it seems. Yet those who were here first are labels as archaic and toxic. It doesn’t make sense.

  • @jenniferbate9682

    @jenniferbate9682

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Pwecko and in mine!

  • @welshhibby
    @welshhibby Жыл бұрын

    David is a national treasure.

  • @Lewisevans1618

    @Lewisevans1618

    Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant Man ✌️

  • @JackTorrance333

    @JackTorrance333

    Жыл бұрын

    He wanted mandatory jabs for all. He hates you and your people. He’s saying anything now for damage control. Wake up !!!!

  • @fabiosplendido9536

    @fabiosplendido9536

    Жыл бұрын

    I confess to being disappointed that he mentions "Game of Thrones".

  • @panchopuskas1

    @panchopuskas1

    Жыл бұрын

    Really ? I find him to be just an articulate bigot.......His analysis of France after the revolution is simply glib. France is an interesting country to study but politically it was much more stable, say, than Germany or Italy......I could go on.....But that's Starkey : an entertainer's guide to modern history with everybody's prejudices satisfied, especially those pertaining to bloody foreigners.......

  • @mauricealexander3834

    @mauricealexander3834

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes a Turd.

  • @benjones1717
    @benjones1717 Жыл бұрын

    We are currently ruled by America and the EU which is why our government is so left even when we vote right right now.

  • @cliffhoelzer6895
    @cliffhoelzer6895 Жыл бұрын

    Love David Starkey!!! His intelligence and grace are on full display here!!!

  • @roygardiner2229
    @roygardiner2229 Жыл бұрын

    I have never thought of England as a republic. Interesting! As were, Dr.Starkey's thought-provoking comments regarding the American Constitution. Also interesting, his comment that it was no coincidence that "freedom of speech" should be curtailed in an era of "multiculturalism". Now THAT is food for thought! This presentation is so valuable to me: it articulates WHY I feel as I do.

  • @vanpallandt5799

    @vanpallandt5799

    Жыл бұрын

    He wants as said to push God out of the equation, also deny the concept of universal rights in favour of essentially what..white Britain is special?

  • @borderlord
    @borderlord Жыл бұрын

    "You're not born Free,you're born Pissing and Shitting!" Professor Starkey's new historical epic!😂😳

  • @DieFlabbergast

    @DieFlabbergast

    Жыл бұрын

    "Inter faeces et urinam nascimur" (we are born between the shit and the piss) -- Saint Augustine

  • @sorrysirmygunisoneba
    @sorrysirmygunisoneba Жыл бұрын

    The man, the legend. Dr Starkey. Absolute treasure.

  • @JackTorrance333

    @JackTorrance333

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you get the jab he wanted for everyone??? He’s an evil devil.

  • @libertasdemocratiam887
    @libertasdemocratiam887 Жыл бұрын

    We have so much to be proud of, it's no wonder the MSM doesn't want to give Starkey time in their shiws to talk, can't have the masses being proud of little old Britannia.

  • @TimmsMJ
    @TimmsMJ Жыл бұрын

    I wish I could speak as eloquently as Dr. Starkey (or even spell as well??). I have tried so many times to explain to people how England, and ultimately Britain came to be the great nation that it was, before all this woke/inclusive/PC rubbish bombed the land I love. Anything that divides - Religion, culture, morals - destroys. Know our history and you'll know we've been through it all and should have learned.

  • @marcbra5074

    @marcbra5074

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly as I feel

  • @user-ij1nv8be3i

    @user-ij1nv8be3i

    8 ай бұрын

    Sounds like the French to me. Still longing for the Empire. Your former subjects freed themselves and now Britain is back to it's original borders. And you recently closed those borders, preferring isolation. Your history was always in intertwined with the history of other nations. We provided you with a King when you needed it deparately. You're welcome ! ;-))

  • @bristolfashion4421
    @bristolfashion4421 Жыл бұрын

    They're simply preparing to consume the ordinary worker, regardless of their origin. The primary ambition is to make as much profit as possible *at any cost* and then to paint a picture that shows the pursuit of riches as wholesome and traditonal. All poor peoole will be trampled down, used up and consumed. They don't care. They are supremeists, both greedy and deceitful and we must fight back, with careful rhetoric and firm action.

  • @kitcat4512

    @kitcat4512

    Жыл бұрын

    Invasion of illegals will replace our aged for the global economy.

  • @BDevine64

    @BDevine64

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s Tories for you. The majority get poorer when conservatives gave power. Nothing new.

  • @thomaswayneward

    @thomaswayneward

    Жыл бұрын

    When did you decide to become a communist?

  • @franksullivan1873
    @franksullivan1873 Жыл бұрын

    I agree.If a nation’s growth and stability is not rooted in its culture and history,it like a ship without a rudder that will find itself scuttled on the rocks of uncertainty and scattered to the winds of time.

  • @RB-hx7rd
    @RB-hx7rd Жыл бұрын

    A true patriot.

  • @chazwyman8951

    @chazwyman8951

    Жыл бұрын

    A true racist.

  • @luciusesox1luckysox570
    @luciusesox1luckysox570 Жыл бұрын

    If this man could be shoe horned into a political party I believe that party would do very well today. Only problem is asking someone like him to become a politician is like asking Einstein to teach physics at a junior school.

  • @richardenders6606

    @richardenders6606

    Жыл бұрын

    Difficult to estimate the long-term damaging consequences of your correct assessment, and tragic that a once respected institution like the BBC can ban someone of his calibre as a "danger to the public" while giving space to the usual third-rate elected collectivist politicians who are more harmful than the obvious lunatic fringe, at least the public can recognise them for what they are

  • @johndownes2509

    @johndownes2509

    Жыл бұрын

    But today's main political parties are not interested in original thought. They have no interest in our constitution, or even the benefit to the people that good government would bring. The Labour Party is a slave to its racist and socialist ideology, and the Conservatives are interested only in retaining power for the purpose of using the patronage it gives them. And the Liberals are just crackpots. There is nobody of any intellectual heft among our politicians today, and it's been that way for at least 20 years.

  • @DarkLadyAthena1
    @DarkLadyAthena1 Жыл бұрын

    Dr. David Starkey is one of the best historians of our generation. His documentaries are among the best. He's a straight shooter, pull no punches kind of a man and one of the few who is a true scholar. His biography of Elizabeth I, Monarchy, are among his best. What he says here is very on point and it is refreshing to hear someone give historical background on our current political crisis.

  • @TheBigKahuna1211
    @TheBigKahuna1211 Жыл бұрын

    Love Starkey, he’s one of the few anchors of rational thought left.

  • @css7765
    @css7765 Жыл бұрын

    Love this man. He has taught me so much and my 11 year old hangs on his every word.

  • @lewislee9201

    @lewislee9201

    Жыл бұрын

    Let's hope your eleven year old's views and interests survived till adulthood.

  • @css7765

    @css7765

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lewislee9201 What makes you say that? The school and university indoctrination?

  • @thomaswayneward

    @thomaswayneward

    Жыл бұрын

    Too bad, he should be hanging on your every word.

  • @TheIntrepid7
    @TheIntrepid7 Жыл бұрын

    You hit it absolutely! We are too polite.

  • @user-ij1nv8be3i

    @user-ij1nv8be3i

    8 ай бұрын

    You are incredibly rude ! Listen back to what English leaders publicly broadcast about Europe and Europeans. The name calling, the slander, the lies. Listen to Farage ranting in the European Parliament. Be assured : you are very very far from polite.

  • @zaygezunt
    @zaygezunt Жыл бұрын

    Utterly enthralling - this was a truly fascinating description of how and why our history matters.

  • @tupacalypse88
    @tupacalypse88 Жыл бұрын

    The only way to create perfection is to do terrible things to human beings cause humans aren't perfect. I like that

  • @h54h52
    @h54h52 Жыл бұрын

    "British Conservatism is Rooted in History NOT Religion" I can understand why David would say this, but it was Christianity in its various forms which brought together the various tribes of ancient Britain, and eventually led to the spread of literacy, so that people were able to read and understand the Christian faith, then apply that understanding to social ills..

  • @clivemarriott7749

    @clivemarriott7749

    Жыл бұрын

    He means that our rights and freedoms developed historically being changed and revised by different rulers many times until they reached modern times. So it was history, there are no 'rights' in the Bible from God or any religion or philiosophy. Rights come from politics and ones standing as a citizen in the nation state.

  • @h54h52

    @h54h52

    Жыл бұрын

    @@clivemarriott7749 Well, I don't want to get into an argument about it 'online" with someone I don't know, but I think you're very wrong! Yes Common Law comes into it, but the moral teachings of the Bible, and especially Jesus Christ have had a great and continuing effect on the Western world, -and further afield. China and Iran for example.

  • @clivemarriott7749

    @clivemarriott7749

    Жыл бұрын

    @@h54h52 Its OK to argue with me online as long as a degree of civility is maintained. Speaking about history I agree that Christianity is a cornerstone of western civilisation. The American constitution inspired by the Magna Carter and Christianity gives people rights which i'm sure is a good thing. However the Bible did not say people have rights ? I'm saying rights have no moral authority from God but they do have authority from the concept of citizens rights developed from Roman/Greek times.

  • @h54h52

    @h54h52

    Жыл бұрын

    @@clivemarriott7749 Apologies, I agree with you. The Scriptures do not teach that people have rights, although the Torah teaches that the Sinai Covenant contains t’s and c’s or blessings and cursings, if you prefer! The underlying supposition of Biblical morality and law is that God has given man free will. We make choices and we or others, receive the blessings or the consequences of our decisions. Human Rights legislation results from the philosophy of Humanism, which teaches amongst other things that man is a result of evolution, which in turn resulted from some chemicals in a puddle somewhere, producing the first living cell. So man is free, and unaccountable- because there is no God.(

  • @clivemarriott7749

    @clivemarriott7749

    Жыл бұрын

    @@h54h52 Thanks for the discussion because that is a chance to learn something from another conscious thinking life. I use the example of mother nature as another cornerstone of truth. If it didn't happen in nature then maybe it should not happen in our cities. But fair enough a puddle of chemicals does not inspire.

  • @normansidey5258
    @normansidey5258 Жыл бұрын

    Starkey, although I do not always agree with his point of view is a man to be listened to, however those that hate debate and challenges to their own narrow minded ideologies are terrified of their weak narratives being exposed by him for what they are, therefore the only way to defeat him is to take sound bites out of context and use mis-interpreted statements to blacken his character.

  • @deefsound
    @deefsound Жыл бұрын

    On the subject of freedom, can you please ask Starkey if he has revisited his position on mandatory vaccinations. A blind spot has emerged in recent months, largely, I suspect because he is so sound on many cultural issues, and as a result he has been let entirely off the hook on his support for mandatory covid jabs.

  • @denisehay8895

    @denisehay8895

    Жыл бұрын

    I had no idea that was his view and am somewhat shocked.

  • @cargumdeu

    @cargumdeu

    Жыл бұрын

    I dont expect a historian to be naturally right when it comes to public health. I dont like what Niall Ferguson says about climate change, or Ukraine. It is possible to be right on one thing and wrong on another. But good luck finding someone with whom you agree on every single thing.

  • @deefsound

    @deefsound

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cargumdeu What an odd remark.

  • @cargumdeu

    @cargumdeu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@deefsound Not in the slightest. Starkey's ideas on vaccines are totally irrelevant to his chosen subject. Your own remark is the weird one.

  • @deefsound

    @deefsound

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cargumdeu “But good luck finding someone with whom you agree on every single thing.” 👈Odd remark.

  • @Design_no
    @Design_no Жыл бұрын

    Starkey is brilliant 👏 👌 🙌

  • @xersoslexersos6366
    @xersoslexersos6366 Жыл бұрын

    ​I like Starkey and the rough thrust of his point, but this is starting to sound a lot like Nietzsche and Derrida, which I don't think is a very good grounding for a society. He's sitting on the branch he is cutting off by desiring a 'conservative' politics without God. I am sure he would argue that many of the influences of the things which have made England great being a result of its geography and the influence and interplay of other factors. But it cannot be overlooked that so much of all of this comes back to things done by people who had a fundamental belief in Christianity. The tradition can neither be preserved nor innovated when the roots are lost. Atheism is an enervating force. England's unique situation may have influenced the Christianity it has followed, but Christianity itself did not originate here - we cannot therefore entirely rely on our history alone to preserve our culture when Christianity is so clearly a part of it - it must colour how we approach the future but it cannot be our basis. Transcendental history is one of the finest examples of modernism a person could find because it dresses itself up as tradition while being revolutionary.

  • @stuartofblyth
    @stuartofblyth Жыл бұрын

    "Reason is not enough" (25:47). If there's one takeaway from the conversation, this is it. Priceless.

  • @Matlacha_Painter
    @Matlacha_Painter Жыл бұрын

    I admire Bill’s immense skill as an interviewer. He is always able to get his guests talking, especially with David who usually is a man of very few words. ;). He always captures my full attention and leaves me with greater insight in to the world in which we live.

  • @ReekieReels
    @ReekieReels Жыл бұрын

    I can't find the video of his speech at NatCon, I can only find Novara Media's reaction to it 🤔

  • @robbeales5516
    @robbeales5516 Жыл бұрын

    For the first time in my lifetime 75. I wonder how this country would be nowadays had we lost the war. I doubt very much we would be multicultural !

  • @vanpallandt5799

    @vanpallandt5799

    Жыл бұрын

    It would be a horrible place. We saw what they did in Poland etc

  • @venataciamoon2789

    @venataciamoon2789

    Жыл бұрын

    Often think the same.

  • @mfecanegukurahundi24
    @mfecanegukurahundi24 Жыл бұрын

    Every one is Tribal, once we realise this we can sit down and negotiate boundaries and peace. until that happens, tensions will remain.

  • @jj-yi1ne

    @jj-yi1ne

    Жыл бұрын

    i dont believe you

  • @mfecanegukurahundi24

    @mfecanegukurahundi24

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jj-yi1ne Fair comment. What is your view on the matter?

  • @shauntempley9757

    @shauntempley9757

    9 ай бұрын

    The UN knows that. Universal human rights was an attempt to place everyone on the same level, and key guides that state boundaries between each tribal group. It basically sees each nation as a tribe unto itself. This was done, because technology in military weaponry had developed to the level that entire peoples could be extinguished with a push of a button at worst, and with a full on mass campaign of conventional warfare at least. He likes the fact that London has history buried under the streets he walks. He fails to recognise that the technology is powerful enough to totally wipe out all trace of that history buried under London streets. Hoping that another nation will not elect another danger that triggers another global war is a fools errand. These rights are there to ensure that there is criminal courts that can handle those events. It is managing the dangerous sides of humanity, that got really bad in WW2.

  • @markrymanowski719

    @markrymanowski719

    4 ай бұрын

    Mass immigration is imposed upon us by "our" politicians who are governed by the elite of the elite. There is nothing we can do about it but winge and whine and bellyache.

  • @CCDR07
    @CCDR07 Жыл бұрын

    Three comments right at the beginning of Starkey's discussion of the french revolution and comparing the french and british constitutions. 1. A 'stable' regime, hierarchy, social order, etc. does not require it to be "good" for the majority of people (or the surrounding non-human life) living in it. India's cast system is "stable", but there are many who are born to oppression and exploitation in the lower castes. 2. The british constitution itself has been subjected to sweeping ammendments, eradications, and additions as a result of political upheaval, uprisings, revolts, etc. I think Starkey's line of "reasoning" and narrative he is telling is not grounded in experience, humanity, or place, but instead suits his ideological purposes. A "dangerous" kind of reason in Edmund Burke's word. 3. Those with wealth/power have been the ones calling the major shots in these parts for the last 5000 years or so, how would he rate the West's social, economic, and ecological stability at the moment? We've had three conservative prime ministers in the space of a couple months!

  • @neilcarr9340
    @neilcarr9340 Жыл бұрын

    Dr Starkey is a national treasure.

  • @paulturner9998
    @paulturner9998 Жыл бұрын

    What an incredible man. Love his humour and intelligence and knowledge

  • @radiodazeband2854
    @radiodazeband2854 Жыл бұрын

    It's quite clear that rights are not universal - or just sitting there in the air. They can either be "God-given"" - what if I don't believe in God? Or I believe in a different one - with a different set of rules? Or they can be Hu-Man given - but by whom for whom? If say the UN declare a set of rights and I don't subscribe to the UN - why should I subscribe to what they espouse?

  • @xdgamesCoUk

    @xdgamesCoUk

    Жыл бұрын

    You don't have to respect or follow any rules, rights or laws if you don't want to. You just need to make sure to either avoid those who would look to force them upon you, or have enough power to withstand anyone who would try to force them upon you. And since I doubt you have enough power to fight against a nation state, I would just keep a low profile and you do you.

  • @izzyplant8428

    @izzyplant8428

    Жыл бұрын

    With you 100%. God given insight. Thank you.

  • @DieFlabbergast

    @DieFlabbergast

    Жыл бұрын

    God is manmade, so rights are also manmade.

  • @Electriclentilman
    @Electriclentilman Жыл бұрын

    David Starkey - isn’t that Ironman ?

  • @hazchemel
    @hazchemel Жыл бұрын

    It was always a vast unknown thing for me? I have Human Rights? Who says? Who gives a human right to me? Do I have to do anything to possess this? And so on ... There is no such thing, of course but this wasn't easy to accept since the TV and press always talk about it,

  • @kapple654
    @kapple654 Жыл бұрын

    3:40 revolutions have terror but so do unchallenged monarchies.

  • @karenmancina8679
    @karenmancina8679 Жыл бұрын

    We will constantly be called on to compromise

  • @violinstar5948
    @violinstar5948 Жыл бұрын

    Where can we find David Starkey’s speech at Nat Con??

  • @tavuzzipust7887
    @tavuzzipust7887 Жыл бұрын

    What is the criterion for distinguishing merely alleged human rights from authentic human rights ? The notion of human rights has been debased by being turned into a rhetorical deice to justify whatever happens to be Left fad of the moment.

  • @Fenristhegreat

    @Fenristhegreat

    Жыл бұрын

    The test for a real human right is the idea of 'man in a state of nature'. So, a man on his own in the wild is granted by nature the freedom to speak, think, move, and keep the profit of his labours. These are human or natural rights, you only lose them when someone else denies you them. However things like health care, electricity, shelter, happiness, are not human rights.

  • @KopperNeoman

    @KopperNeoman

    Жыл бұрын

    @Fenristhegreat The erosion started with the independent United States. Their aristocrats replaced Life, Liberty, Property with Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. And keeping the fruits of your labours isn't a freedom in the State of Nature. There are multiple species whose survival strategy is to steal. You do, however have the natural right to attempt to prevent that theft - just as the thief has the natural right to steal.

  • @jenniferlawrence2701

    @jenniferlawrence2701

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Fenristhegreat Those (natural rights) are abilities. I'm not sure why they should be called rights. It seems needlessly confusing. A bear has the ability to take a dump in the woods, but to say it has a _right_ to do so seems like an abstraction.

  • @stuartmenziesfarrant
    @stuartmenziesfarrant Жыл бұрын

    Make pageantry great again

  • @JonGUK
    @JonGUK Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant chat today, thoroughly enjoyed it. David Starkey is a human encyclopaedia.

  • @CCDR07
    @CCDR07 Жыл бұрын

    Another comment from around minute 7:30. Our "not-perfect" british state is compelling many people to do horrible things due to the staggering inequalities that exist in regards to access to education, healthcare, clean and healthy food and environments, access to justice, etc. You don't need a dictatorship to try and force human beings to be a certain way. Economic conditions/status can also dictate our lives disasterously.

  • @The_Cosmic_Yog-Sothoth
    @The_Cosmic_Yog-Sothoth Жыл бұрын

    Human rights are granted by the latest ruling jobsworths. They are not genetic, nor born with.

  • @PrivateWalker
    @PrivateWalker Жыл бұрын

    In very few countries one actually has any 'human rights' other than in name.

  • @glennmitchell9107
    @glennmitchell9107 Жыл бұрын

    As the French Revolution had relatively instant karma in the form of the terror, was the American Civil War the delayed karmic response to the American Revolution?

  • @thomaswayneward

    @thomaswayneward

    Жыл бұрын

    In a way, it was. Lincoln and his war ruined the Republic and the independence of the States. That was the intention of Lincoln, nothing to do with slaves, who Lincoln hated.

  • @ishmaelforester9825
    @ishmaelforester9825 Жыл бұрын

    A lot of the best old writings of serious men are like that, tedious in detail for us but then you find golden passages when they express general principles or ideas. Burke amid the politics of his day is like the great fathers, doctors and saints of the Church amid the heathenism and heresies.

  • @81048107
    @81048107 Жыл бұрын

    I guess as a Yank across the pond, I need to be hopefully, an objective contrarian (which is hard, because I like Starkey so much.) Politics is downstream of culture and culture is downstream of religion. Human rights are rooted in religion, but they evolve and take form over time, and this evolution/formation is documented by history. As such, they are not rooted in history, they are rooted in religion; no religion, no human rights. And yes, they are universal. Perhaps a comparison might be helpful - here in America, we have observed that as religion retreats from the public square, we are beginning to lose authentic human rights and are seeing the emergence of other so-called "rights" never recognized before, based on the legal contrivances of various case law and court rulings.

  • @DieFlabbergast

    @DieFlabbergast

    Жыл бұрын

    Your theory is simplistic. Britain, France, Germany, and Russia (to name but a few) are all historically Christian countries, yet their histories and political cultures are VERY different. Starkey is right, a particular country's culture is rooted in its history, which, in turn is rooted in its geographical location (its neighbours, which countries it goes to war with, etc.) and its geographical peculiarities (climate, crops grown, etc.). Ultimately, EVERYTHING (including which religion a country adopts) is rooted in history, which is rooted in geography.

  • @davidbaloney2505
    @davidbaloney2505 Жыл бұрын

    Lovely to hear mr starkey. Every day a day at school.

  • @andrewdavies8954
    @andrewdavies8954 Жыл бұрын

    At last someone making sense of the dangers of mixing different races

  • @prepperjonpnw6482
    @prepperjonpnw6482 Жыл бұрын

    I don’t think he understands why the American constitution says what it says about rights. It really shows either his ignorance or his arrogance.

  • @rsqyoung
    @rsqyoung Жыл бұрын

    "The 'Lord' giveth and the Lord taketh away"

  • @bristolfashion4421

    @bristolfashion4421

    Жыл бұрын

    ...and also the Lord turneth us around, bend us over and shafteth us from behind, innit...

  • @rsqyoung

    @rsqyoung

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bristolfashion4421 of course, but that is the Natural world.

  • @DieFlabbergast

    @DieFlabbergast

    Жыл бұрын

    Why do you put "Lord" in single quotation marks? And why only the first time you use the word, but not the second? And if we assume this is true, so what? What are we supposed to do with this information? Does it help ANYBODY make a decision about ANYTHING? This sort of thing reminds one of the Islamic cultures (insha'allah, al-Ḥamdu lillāh, and so on), and THEY haven't been world leaders in anything for centuries. Now, I wonder why?

  • @tmc02086
    @tmc02086 Жыл бұрын

    Multiculturalism only works in metropolis / mega city or country like USA, / London. yet, there are still a lot of shortcomings. Other countries try multiculturlism is like digging their own grave.

  • @leestirling4623

    @leestirling4623

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually those places are difinitive proof that it doesn't work.

  • @tmc02086

    @tmc02086

    Жыл бұрын

    @@leestirling4623 This is why I said there are pros and cos for multiculturalism. However, to be a world financial centre, you can't just have one homogeneous ethnic group made up the population. This is why only NY and London are the world financial centre. (Hong Kong used to be, but that's another story) But of cause, there are adverse effects that NY and London need to bear, but not financial one.

  • @pincermovement72

    @pincermovement72

    Жыл бұрын

    Multiculturalism does not work anywhere and never has or will .

  • @timothymobbs656
    @timothymobbs656 Жыл бұрын

    Starkey should be PM.

  • @brianmulrennan1845
    @brianmulrennan1845 Жыл бұрын

    A superb exposition of our history and constitution. I have been so enlightened. I also didn't really know where Blenheim is.

  • @louisdocherty8219

    @louisdocherty8219

    Жыл бұрын

    I think that Julian asagague might not believe that we have hapeuas corpus

  • @christopherjones67
    @christopherjones67 Жыл бұрын

    I like David Starkey maybe the beeb will give him a job. There's no such thing as human rights. Judeo-Christian tradition teaches us to be nice to each other but ultimately the rights we have are those that the respective nation state that we live in bestows upon us. Unless your an Englishman. We are freeborn. Magna Carte , Common Law, etc. Yanks copied us when the English 13 colonies seperated from the Mother Country.

  • @vanpallandt5799

    @vanpallandt5799

    Жыл бұрын

    But for example, Magna Carta was signed at a time when Wales was under occupation. Our laws were overturned. So this is solely an English thing?

  • @christopherjones67

    @christopherjones67

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vanpallandt5799 What do you mean occupied? Magna Carta was endorsed by the Welsh. King John received representation from all parts of the British Isles. Scots included. It was an English document though. We're all British however.

  • @vanpallandt5799

    @vanpallandt5799

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christopherjones67 Wales hadnt welcomed the Normans or English in though. We had our own laws etc and princes.

  • @christopherjones67

    @christopherjones67

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vanpallandt5799 Fair point. But I assume you agree Magna Carta was a good thing? Even if it superseded Welsh laws & practices? I'll admit I'm slightly out of my comfort zone. History is my interest but it's WW2 , Third Reich, British Empire, not really interested in much before mid 19th Century. Love the Victorian era. Tell me where I'm wrong? Or perhaps better the nuance. I tend to make blanket statements.

  • @vanpallandt5799

    @vanpallandt5799

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christopherjones67 the Welsh laws were more about restitution and compensation and less about punishment

  • @peteg8920
    @peteg892010 ай бұрын

    "True religion is the foundation of human society. When that is once shaken by contempt , the whole fabric cannot be stable nor lasting." - Edmund Burke . The foundation seems to me to be very shaken , if not crumbling before our eyes.

  • @fuchsiafreud
    @fuchsiafreud Жыл бұрын

    Anyone know who the Dane is he's referring to at 17:17?

  • @endpc5166
    @endpc5166 Жыл бұрын

    Have to object to DR Starky reprehensible misquoting of the American Declaration of Independence. It nowhere says that all men are born free, and it where it says "that all men are created equal", given the times then where there was belief in the Divine right of Kings, that phrase only meant that there are no divinely ordained or natural aristocracies but that all men should be considered equal under the law. And that he can't see that as self-evident doesn't give him the right to insult it as "manifest rubbish."

  • @anthonydowney6069
    @anthonydowney6069 Жыл бұрын

    He refers to intervening in Afghanistan so "girls would have the freedom to wear miniskirts like NYC hookers ",but remember what was actually said at the time "it was for girls education ".Yes mostly white British soldiers died and were horribly injured for that. But in the wake of that failure by the "neo cons "theirs and their opponents at the time are now all agreed on the solution-open borders. So any individual from these countries of whatever political and or religious views can "choose "their country of choice to move to. Which is what the UN and their various bodies and committees have been advocating for decades which Starkey was alluding to in a similar way in the interview.

  • @yoyo-lf3ld
    @yoyo-lf3ld Жыл бұрын

    Anyone know where I can find his speech at natcon?

  • @TheWorldisSoDivided
    @TheWorldisSoDivided Жыл бұрын

    Amen to that!!! Can’t even have an opinion.

  • @brianfairclough4109
    @brianfairclough4109 Жыл бұрын

    Before I listen to this, I wonder if RS will roll out the old St Augustine 'Piss and Shit' quote? I don't think that I've heard a speech from him in the past 18 months where he hasn't used it.

  • @brianfairclough4109

    @brianfairclough4109

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes!! I had to wait eleven minutes and and forty seconds for it. Thank you David. 😊

  • @asongforsimeon4310
    @asongforsimeon4310 Жыл бұрын

    Starkey likes to pretend that the "rootedness" of the English system isn't deeply derived from religion and religious ideas. Tradition, yes, but tradition of _what?_ It's easy to infer why Starkey is so opposed to Christianity, especially its moral precepts, but he is talking in abstractions when he talks of "history" as if its content isn't heavily Christian in nature.

  • @vanpallandt5799

    @vanpallandt5799

    Жыл бұрын

    I think he is trying to throw out the baby with the bath water

  • @divinaluz69
    @divinaluz698 ай бұрын

    Listening to this from 00:20:00 onwards hits differently in the wake of latest news on 7.10.23.

  • @David-uf8ex
    @David-uf8ex Жыл бұрын

    Always love it when David Starkey is on 👏👏

  • @elizabethmackenzie5730
    @elizabethmackenzie5730 Жыл бұрын

    Barclay is a Peterhouse historian as well as having been educated by the Army.

  • @daviocampi6951
    @daviocampi69518 ай бұрын

    There wasn't much on the pitfalls of multi culturalism but what Mr Starkey stated about the Labour party is so true. They are prone to hate heritage value in England, they hate their education. It seems whatever is noble is torn down and replaced with other cultures very different with opposing value systems. The idea of being conservative makes them feel very uncomfortable. They would rather have a cultural revolution and lose their identity and their moral compass to create an alternative society where some brothers are more equal than others.

  • @Mina-gm3pg
    @Mina-gm3pg Жыл бұрын

    I was looking forward to watching the coronation and very sad that the weather dampened proceedings. Charles was not in a good mood, he likely slept poorly. This was not exciting watching pensioner king and queen against young fresh blood ascending the throne. Made a point to listen to Dr Starkey for real information. Camera angles not always good. Very irritated and annoyed that BBC chose what we could view. I think the monarchy is getting ready to give up the position and retain prominent positions in the global, woke world order.

  • @simonwiltshire7089
    @simonwiltshire7089 Жыл бұрын

    The last 3 years has shown us who are the corrupt villians and who are the hero’s. David is the latter.

  • @AndyJarman
    @AndyJarman Жыл бұрын

    Isn't the family a more fundamental unit than the nation state? I'd have thought the journey of the child through to adulthood, with brothers, sisters, grandparents, aunts, uncles and parents is where the template for justice is best expressed? English Common Law as an expression of the true social unit. The Nation State is an incorporation of families into a fictitious unit that has to be given "rights" as though it is a person while at the same time is NOT a living being. Corp, oration, the speech of a body, where the body is nothing more than a contract.

  • @jenniferlawrence2701

    @jenniferlawrence2701

    Жыл бұрын

    Who ever said it wasn't? (a more fundamental unit than the nation-state)

  • @thomaswayneward

    @thomaswayneward

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly, and the family is the most important. Without it everything collapses. Look at black families in the States; more than half of black families have no father present.

  • @charliebuttocks2400
    @charliebuttocks2400 Жыл бұрын

    Very good Peter but could you whittle it down a bit to say…20 minutes

  • @SirPrancelot1
    @SirPrancelot1 Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating talk. Thank you.

  • @kenbroadbent7288
    @kenbroadbent7288 Жыл бұрын

    He is the guardian of the national story.

  • @roytaylor2161
    @roytaylor2161 Жыл бұрын

    What's shocking in the coronation ceremony is that the king does not even recite the creed of the Church of England in which he professes to belong to a 'Catholic and Apostolic church' - not a Roman one note. In the official prayer book there is no mention of Protestantism. The coronation service seems to hold out such little conciliation to Catholic and Orthodox churches.

  • @Thespian-wp6xq
    @Thespian-wp6xq Жыл бұрын

    His books too, are always a terrific read.

  • @donhansen1175
    @donhansen1175 Жыл бұрын

    Ortega speaks of history living for the British! Don Hansen

  • @mj99a
    @mj99a Жыл бұрын

    1: 05 - is "execration" the word dr. starkey uses?

  • @divinaluz69

    @divinaluz69

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes.

  • @pennypothoneypot634mimmahappun
    @pennypothoneypot634mimmahappun11 ай бұрын

    Every ruler needs a ruler. Reason is not enough and love is not enough.❤🎉

  • @GregPotemkin
    @GregPotemkin Жыл бұрын

    At approx 37:47 - The Afghan Warlord will go "isn't it marvelous that our girls are going to be able to dress up just like whores in New York - isn't this exactly what we want!" - I don't actually agree with him and think that he is conflating western cultural "values" (if that is what you want to call them) with universal concepts like Human rights, in order to disparage the universal nature of those rights, but it was a very good interview - well worth watching.

  • @jenniferbate9682
    @jenniferbate9682 Жыл бұрын

    Love the intro music…reminds me of Frost and TWTWTW. 😊 GIVING MY AGE AWAY XX

  • @SmileyEmoji42
    @SmileyEmoji42 Жыл бұрын

    Starkey should write the History section of the National Curriculum 🙂

  • @persiancarpet7853
    @persiancarpet7853 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting, thank you.

  • @nickd4310
    @nickd4310 Жыл бұрын

    It's odd to choose the French Revolution as the bogeyman of multi-culturalism and anti-nationalism. In reality, the Revolution marked the beginning of nationalism and its leaders sought cultural homogeneity within the nation.

  • @roberthiggins9115
    @roberthiggins9115Ай бұрын

    Human rights can be discovered by analysis of the setting into which a person arrives in the world. When correctly done rights are derived and they are undeniable. Consequently, they are absolute and therefore universal. References: my book "Human Rights, What are They Really?" and my paper The Theory of Human Rights that is a preprint at the Researchgate web site (28k reads).

  • @ArtyFactual_Intelligence
    @ArtyFactual_Intelligence Жыл бұрын

    Welcome to Tufton Street. The NewRemburg Culture Rallying Point

  • @sebastianb.1926
    @sebastianb.1926 Жыл бұрын

    Almost every medieval European political entity saw themselves as the new Rome. Including the Ottoman Empire.

  • @jimdandy9671
    @jimdandy9671 Жыл бұрын

    His take on natural rights is troubling, "there's no such thing as natural rights unless you believe in God". Apparently, David believes that basic Human rights are bestowed on a people, (or revoked) by whatever person(s) is in power! This is why a dominant religion is essential to a functioning society, all societies. When a society loses its religion it can no longer judge right & wrong, good & evil rather, the population will splinter into rival groups each trying to impose its own version of morality... sound familiar?

  • @annabizaro-doo-dah
    @annabizaro-doo-dah Жыл бұрын

    The official photographs of the Coronation were appalling. Just laughable. The (clearly too weighty for them) crown's of Charles & Camilla looked as if they were cut out and stuck on in a child's scrapbook. Just bizarre.

  • @burtlangoustine1
    @burtlangoustine1 Жыл бұрын

    7:01 Starky tells us a historical political fact about why politics needs to serve the people, not perfect them into a 'perfect world' as it's humanly impossible to pull off: Humanity is flawed. Interesting. It's like we've been 'coded' to never perform like perfect drones as a species.

  • @bath_neon_classical
    @bath_neon_classical Жыл бұрын

    i'm strongly of the opinion that any one person cannot reason properly if they are using multiple belief systems.

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