The Years of the Lamps | The Beginning of Days : Silmarillion Explained - Part 2 of 4
In this video we take a look at the primeval Years of the Lamps, where gods rule the planet Arda. But Melkor is not gone, and and he will soon come forth suddenly to war. The paradise of the Valar cannot last forever. *Stick around to the end of the episode for another Tolkien Fun Fact*
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Art credits in order of appearance:
Eru Iluvatar - Enanoakd
Ainur - Anna Kulisz
Melkor - Joel Kilpatrick
Sauron - Gerwell
Balrog - James Bousema
Gothmog - Per Øyvind Haagensen
Manwe - Dymond Starr
Aulë - Alice Falto
Ulmo - Ted Nasmith
Tulkas - Antonio Vinci
The Lamps of Arda - Ted Nasmith, Bmosig, Andead, Andrey Maximov
Arien & Tilion - Julia 94s
Uinen - Raquel Martins
Olorin - Annie Claudine
Melian - Elena Kukanova
Nessa - Farothiel
Utumno - Philip Straub
Land of Shadow - Ted Nasmith
Varda - Tania Weil
Yavanna - Sedeptra
Taniquetil - JRR Tolkien
Laurelin & Telperion- Leliumoj
Nienna - Aerankai
Oromë - Steamey
Nahar - Alexis Chaudouet
Elves at Cuivienen - Annamare
Extra special thanks to Ted Nasmith
Check out his official webpage - www.tednasmith.com
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Much love, stay groovy, and navaer mellyn nin!
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The sheer emotion and joy you exude as you talk about the Tolkian myth of creation makes what could make my heart elate, into something powerful enough to bring tears to my eyes.
@tammygant4216
14 күн бұрын
Exactly!!!!--I'm here for the third time in a year just because it's THAT good!
This is by far the best series I’ve seen explaining Tolkien’s world. You deserve millions of views! And I loved the fun facts at the end too!
@blueldrrich84
Жыл бұрын
I whole-heartedly agree! =D been watching every video I can since I stumbled upon this channel
That ending was something else. props to that nasa lad who named the mountains after Tolkien's work.
My headcanon is that, after the numerous continental upheavals, the spilled light of Illuin settled into the earth and became the great mithril-lode of Khazad-Dum.
@dartagnanjames8069
Жыл бұрын
I wish the Rings of Power saw this comment. Makes more sense than their story about the tree.
@J.G.H.
Жыл бұрын
@@dartagnanjames8069 Problem is that they don't have access - legally - to the Silmarillion- except for a few little bits - all they have is the Hobbit, the Lord of the Rings and it's appendices to work with, so they can't use Illuin or anything from the first age. Of course one could simply argue that it is folly from the outset to attempt to adapt the events of the Second Age without the Silmarillion, and the fault then lies in the show's very conception.
In the end, the naming of the places of Saturnus moon, I nearly got tears in my eyes. What an awesome person that named those places, thank you fellow Tolkien fan 🙏
Excellent content that deserves to be seen by many more viewers. Or is it many more viewers deserve to see it? Something's wrong with the KZread algorythm because I have been watching LOR videos for a while and found this channel only now. Who wrote the algorythm really? A secret Sauron's admirer? 🙂
@jaytravels4113
Жыл бұрын
Thinking of the same😂
Starry tears at the end of this video.....Wow!!! Tolkien really did create a myth that will live in our hearts and spread into the Cosmos!!! A tale of Darkness and therefore Great Light....!!!! Thank you so much for illuminating all parts of this story....
I am in love with the thought that scientists with heart gave Titan names from Middle Earth. You have no idea how close these things are to reality.
*Radagast the Brown* was a wonderful character & one of my favorites ... if not my favorite from the *Hobbit movie*
Your description of this especially at the end with Titan and Tolkien brought me to tears. Not all tears are an evil. Thank you so much!
That scientist did what he had to do for all Tolkien fans. That's so awesome!
Hey, i just wanted to give you a very warm thank you for your Tolkien videos. I love LOTR but don't have the time or executive function to read a lot of his stuff, and listening to your videos has been an absolute joy. You speak of this mythos with such love, empathy and understanding, it's hard not to get emotional sometimes. Thank you 💙
Another excellent video. And such a tragedy that Melkor managed to drive the Valar from Middle Earth and into seclusion in Aman. But props to Varda for leaving a reminder that they're not too far should Melkor start getting too big for his britches. And also props to Ulmo, who I love for remaining unconfined in Valinor to instead dwell in all the waters of the world to watch over all of Arda. He really is doing his best to look out for the world. He has been and always shall be my favorite Vala, and as shown here it's not just because he's the Lord of Waters, though that is a big boost in the mind of this water-aligned guy.
@mytandasouder4485
Жыл бұрын
Ulmo reviling himself to Tour in the "flesh" is one of my favorite things. The only second born to have that experience... Oh wait I just remembered Eärendil. Still amazing!
Strange creatures lived during the Age of the Lamps? I can't help but think that this was the age of the dinosaurs. 😁
@TrangDB9
Жыл бұрын
Nah, the ancient beasts older than anyone. Dwelling in the deep and darkness of Moria.
Wow that fun fact at the end gabe me goose bumps. What a legacy!
You are really a master at explaining Tolkien. He must be proud of you. Thanks a lot for these videos. Please, be encouraged to do more. Gracias!!!
@tolkienuntangled
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
Bro, this is the best explanatory channel abput the legendarium. Your insights really open up my eyes in a lot of things about the motivation of the characters.
I had a bad day so I decided to play your origin videos to help calm and relax me. Your voice, narration style, music, all are so peaceful and relaxing. You are such a great story teller. I have seen every video you've made and rewatch your videos to escape the mindlessness of the world and get some peace. Thank you for making this channel exist!
Rainbow Dave, you are an excellent host! I will be watching your videos in order and am very much looking forward to more of your captivating narration and explanation on the realm of Middle Earth. Well done sir!
Another fantastic video, really loving this journey through Tolkien/Middle Earth history. That fun fact is awesome, I had no idea some legend of a scientist had named places in the solar system from Tolkien's works. Know that's a fan setting his love for Tolkien's works literally to the stars, Tolkien would love that.
This channel is fantastic, soon I feel confident to tackle the silmarillion, cheers!
Great find in YT!!! music, images, explanations --- just pure bliss
I recently discover your videos and I have been binge watching all the Beleriand ones and thought maybe I should start at the beginning. I been watching loads of LoTR videos and I always find them too short! Yours are perfect as they give the time to really go deep in the analysis of Tolkien's world and your love for this legendarium really shine through each video. I love the fun fact notes and this one in particular. You don't always realise the impact someone has on you and the world until something of this magnitude happen! You did not do fun facts in the Beleriand series and I hope you will add them again when you start your Beren and Luthien series :) Off I go to the next video of yours.
@jandunn169
2 жыл бұрын
me too I am on the same journey....you describe...
Great video, my dude. The passion and way you speak is as powerful and beautiful as Mandos passes his Dooms. Though, the one correction I kind of noticed is that Laurelin is the Female Tree while Telperion is the Male. Remember? That is why the 2 Maiar chosen are Arien, of Vana and Tilion, of Orome……Arien was a female Maiar that was one of the few “fire-spirits” that was uncorrupted by Melkor? Tilion was a male Maiar that was often reckless and would not stay on the path all of the time, hence why sometimes he can be seen in the sky at the same time as Arien or even block out her light? Lol, just a small correction. 🤓
I'm new to this whole silmarillion lore, well, I had an idea what it is, but It just recently came to me after watching your first upload about Eru Illuvatar's and the Ainurs Song. Eru never told Melkor to stop what he's doing. He juat lets him do hi thing and lets it all unfold. It is maybe He already knew the outcome OF IT ALL! We see that there was beauty in their song and there was discord and corruption. Such as we have alwys seen throughout the different ages there was always conflict but also beauty and harmony. It's just saying it simply Eru just wanted to "spice things up" and being the omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent being that he is, it's just a mere passing moment.
@cweb9169
2 жыл бұрын
Not to be a lore nerd but there is a sentence that I'll paraphrase in which Eru is showing the ainur their creation. He also tells Melkor that even his deeds and works will be tributary to his plan and Arda's beauty. So yes Eru knew that Melkor would be as he is. Unlike Men his fate is sealed up in Arda. Whole other tangent though. ;P
Dave, after the disappointment I feel after seeing the trailer for the Amazon LoTR, your channel was such a treasure to me. I have been chain watching your channel for the last couple days. You make the mythology of Tolkien so much more engaging to me. Honestly, I have never gotten to much into the books (I was a Dragonlance reader when I was a kid), but I loved the previous movies. But your videos are so damn enjoyable and educational at the same time. Thanks for doing this. I really wish Amazon had gotten you to be their Tolkien scholar!
@tolkienuntangled
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I'm really glad you enjoy the channel.
@mariacvale
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree.
I have been enjoying your videos immensely since I recently stumbled upon your channel. I look forward to listening to you explain Tolkien's work each day as I have time. I have long wanted to understand more of the story, but with how busy I am and my ongoing struggle with brain fog, reading and understanding the Silmarillion has been difficult. Your videos have made it possible for me to delve deeper into Tolkien's work and for that I am grateful.
I'm new to your channel and love the content. Curiously, what touched me the most was the fun fact of Titan, for Tolkien is a literary titan, and his name will go on existing for as long as there is a civilized society that studies the most beautiful thing ever: our universe.
Why am I crying over the fact that there is a mountain on Titan named Taniquetil
I loved that bit about the elves awakening. I wonder what happened to the Avari?
The light of the ainur being divine explains the super natural nature of Tom Bombadil
Absolutely beautiful telling. Thank you for the great content
No way there are mountains on Saturn's moon titan named from Tolkiens books. That is awesome, fun facts 👍👍👍
Thank you. I'm still scratching my head on where Tom Bombadil fits in the lore. I thought he was before the elves.
@12classics39
Ай бұрын
He was. Tolkien intentionally made his origins mysterious. My personal favorite theory is that he is the personification of the Music of the Ainur who took on a physical form like all other beings who live in Arda.
The flip side of eternal night is the stars will never stop shining… wow
Tulkas eventually passed after having some acid off Irmo, who you know has the best liquid, cause he has plentiful access to everything he needs. After all Middle-Earth came be found in D-Lysergic Acid Diethylamide, can't be spelt without its letters. And Diethylamide does sound Elvish! :D
I've watched various random videos over the last year and enjoyed so now I've gone back to the very beginning to watch the lot. Wish me luck 😂
Do love that the Cassini team named a few places after some of Tolkien's works. And yeah space stuff is named in Latin. Probably because before English Latin was the language of learning.
Love your videos, great job.
Really good video, my only criticism is the inaccuracy of the lung map (10:40)
Really well and beautifully articulated, great job!
The best party of all the universe… groove brotha, that was hilarious.
bro i legit cried at the end whe you spoke about tolkiens legacy
On my second watch of this series.
These are great videos. Just what I was looking for to sort out the origin and early history of Middle Earth.
That fun fact is absolutely amazing. I was not aware and that brings a huge smile to my face to know that this man created an entire universe and with that his creations now belong to the actual universe.
Every time I hear about Melkor / Morgoth's motivations, I start channeling Oddball from Kelly's Heroes: "Can't you say something beautiful and righteous for a change!? ALWAYS with the negative waves, Melkor!"
INCREDIBLY well done video!!! Thank you!
Hey man love your stuff, just a little thing, not at all a complaint, but perhaps you should consider putting the links to your previous and next video in the description too? Or a playlist? Its just a super easy thing that makes me click on your stuff more as a viewer. Just my opinion. Thanks!
@tolkienuntangled
2 жыл бұрын
Good idea. Thanks for the suggestion!
I've got to admit, I'm binge watching all your older video's... amazing content 👌
Personally I am in the camp that Mairon was still a faithful student of Aule when he arrived, but after witnessing the internal discord between the Valar, he looked to the one Will of Melkor and gave Melkor the 'How to throw down' guide, and it was after the Valar start their chase that Mairon leave them for Melkor, and it is only then after Mairon joins him in Utumno that Melkor learns who his spie was.
Facts about such things that Tolkein unintentionally continued through his death is incredible. Such as this Nasa one where even past his time he still has a touch on people. Coincidence or not there are many overwhelming awesome facts about tolkein, my personal favourite is rather morbid but cool nonetheless... The year of his death, 1973. Some may think nothing of it, but reverse the numbers to 3791 and you have the rings, in order, as described for middle earth... 3 Rings for the Elven King's under the Sky 7 for the Dwarf Lords in their Halls of Stone 9 for Mortal Men Doomed to Die 1 for the Dark Lord on his Dark Throne. These fun facts such as the ones you are adding to your videos at the end, are what makes this whole Tolkein world very remarkable and overwhelmingly interesting for someone as simple minded as myself.
I love the format you use Rainbow Dave. These books are pretty tough for me to read because of the made up languages. I get really bogged down in pronunciation and it becomes the focal point. The way you tell the story for the lay person with some of the poetic Tolkien verses sprinkled in, along with fun facts and your personal interpretation is just wonderful to me. Thank you Rainbow Dave. -DeadBrother
There's an area on Pluto's largest moon, Charon, named Mordor.
Just found this channel and as a life long Tolkien fan this is awesome! Thanks so much for diving so deep into this complex story!
Wonderful to finally have JJRT's work so well described, thanks rainbow Dave!
Love your channel, this video was also awesome. Just a minor thing, you got the genders of the trees mixed. Also, another incredible thing about Titan is that it is the only planet/moon other than earth with stable bodies of surface liquid. There are other moons with subsurface lakes or lakes sealed under ice sheets, but no others with surface lakes.
Great video!!
Brand new to the channel, and I already know I'm going to fall in love with it. Your knowledge of Tolkien is superlative, as is the way you tell the stories. Thank you so much for your hard work in creating beauty in our world. ❤
@tolkienuntangled
8 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard! I hope you enjoy!
Love this channel!!!
During the Time of the Lamps you say there are no Elves, no Men, no Dwarves, no orcs, etc., so I think you are referring to sentient humanoid races. We know that some sentient beings like Tom Bombadil and Ungoliant were created during the Ainulindalë, the time of creation or soon after by Eru Ilúvatar. The flora and fauna were in Arda when they entered it for the first time created during the Ainulindalë. Another interesting twist to Ungoliant is that Melkor and the Ainur who came to follow Melkor's discordant musical contribution created Ungoliant. Later tried she tried to kill Melkor and the balrogs, his Ainur allies, had to come to his aid fighting their own horrific creation.
amazing fun fact great video
The Big Dipper is not a constellation by itself, but part of one - Ursa Major.
I'm using your *playlist/s* makes it easier ... TY 👍👍👍👍👍
Loved the ending :)
That's awesome
Thanks!
So the Two Lamps are even more powerful than the Two Trees? Makes sense. I couldn’t even imagine just how crazy the world appeared during the Valian Years or the Age of the Lamps.
Love it
Thank you
These videos are fantastic, mate! I’ve read/listened/watched LOTR countless times, but never dug deep into the Silmarillion until a couple of years ago, and was blown away by how incredible it is. It’s good to come back and check these videos and get a much clearer look at them and refresh myself on parts i’d forgotten. I look forward to watching all your videos. All the best!
@tolkienuntangled
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm really glad you're enjoying them.
@EubyDubstep
3 жыл бұрын
@@tolkienuntangled you’re more than welcome! 😊 literally watching part 3 of 6 of the Silmaril story while I’m at work now. (Reason I replied so fast lol). I look forward to getting through all your videos! Have a great week ahead, Mellon!
Great explenation! I would only recommend using the Atlas Of Middle-Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad.
1) you commentary is fantastic. Your deductions are impeccable. I love it. 2) you sound like Jack Whitehall, are you secretly a mainstream commedian? 3) i find your pronunciations a little off. I prefer Martin Shaw's reafing of the silmarillion and Robert Inglis' of The LotR and I am so entrenched in them that i cannot bear hearing other styles of pronunciation.
@tolkienuntangled
2 жыл бұрын
1) Thanks so much! 2) Yes I am secretly Jack Whitehall. But don't tell anyone 🤫 3) The pronunciations are something I've worked hard to try and get right. Both the Silmarillion and LOTR have sections on Elvish pronunciation at the end, and both Martin Shaw and Robert Inglis notoriously get some things wrong. However, to be fair, these early videos are probably not the best ones I've ever made, and I certainly won't claim to have nailed every single word. In the last video I horribly mispronounced Mearas, and it's still a constant source of daily shame 😅
@philmace81
2 жыл бұрын
@@tolkienuntangled i probably judge too harshly because i am so familiar with Inglis and Shaw
Ivory? I wonder if the Mumakils evolved at Utumno
Thank you 0:17
Great video! I've really enjoyed watching them. One thing I noticed is that you switched the genders of the trees. Telperion is male and Laurelin is female, I believe.
That NASA scientist is my new hero
Legendarium is when even trees have a family line.
Great!!
So.... The Elven folks are from Finland 🤔 That's bloody awesome 🇫🇮
Headcannon: Tom bombadil was just chilling in almaren, gatecrashed the wedding, drank Tulkas under the table and then left without saying goodbye before the fighting started
LOL... I'm sure all the people who suffered and died at the hands of Melkor et spawn are pleased that, in the end, there will always be Eru Illuvatar.
Party must have been too tiring? Nah man Tulkas just got wasted 😂
I water my trees with the tears of clubbed baby seals and people who stubbed their toes xD
I love these videos I found em on Reddit 👍🏻
@tolkienuntangled
4 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you enjoyed watching it!
I'm sorry if this question sounds blandly technical, (most of mine do) but when, roughly did animals appear on the scene? We know that, certainly by the third age, they have horses and rabbits (coneys) and dogs and probably cattle, goats, pigs and sheep. Tulkas, it is written had no need of a steed, since he was faster on foot, and Orome, the hunter "delighted in horses and hounds" so those at least existed in the first age. Did any single one of the Valar create them all, or did they spring into existence as part of Eru Iluvatar's theme? Anyway, I hope that you're making progress on your other projects, and I am looking forward to your next new video. Best Wishes.
@tolkienuntangled
2 жыл бұрын
We're told that during the Spring of Arda (so right at the very beginning of Arda's history - just after the First War where the planet was made) "beasts came forth and dwelt in the grassy plains, or in the rivers and the lakes, or walked in the shadows of the woods." Interestingly, singing birds came a little bit later "for these things waited still their time in the bosom of Yavanna; but wealth there was of her imagining."
@tolkienuntangled
2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I wrote a whole three extra paragraphs answering your question, but for some reason only the first paragraph was published :(
@johnbigboote8900
2 жыл бұрын
@@tolkienuntangled What did come through seems to address my question pretty well, and I'm grateful. Perhaps the full answer can form the basis for a future video, or part of one. Possibly a Fun Fact, though I can't see much humour in the topic. Anyway, Thanks for the reply.
Sauron and the Balrogs… sounds like a 50s doo-wop group.
Still don’t understand why Frodo and Bilbo are allowed to sail to Valinor when the numenoreans weren’t allowed to before.
Had Sauron/Mairon manifested upon the ‘physical’ plane during the age of the lamps? Or was he still a student of Aulé?
I never really see Melkor as a nerdy fantasy villain (nothing against nerds I’m one myself) I imagine his fortresses filled with horrid demons, the kinds you’d see in an R rated film (exorcist, evil dead) Whenever I watch a good exorcism film I say, “Yeah Morgoth would do that.” He could drive people mad with the most disturbing of illusions. He is Tolkien’s Lucifer after all.
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b...But whence did the ruins and remains of the lamp-pillars go?
super content but i must say the background music is a litle bit to loud for my ears to hear it relaxed without effort to understand erveything.
At 15:33 if I remember correctly telperion was the male tree no? You stated the opposite.
@tolkienuntangled
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was my mistake. Telperion was the male tree.
@kyleyocius6402
2 жыл бұрын
@@tolkienuntangled its okay you have a lot going on quite understandable! Just had me confused for a bit 😂. Appreciate what you do though keep up the awesome work!
since melkor's early army is all balrogs and evil maiar. and Tolkien has said there was no more than 7. or else would've dominated MIDDLE EARTH. This leads me to believe its possible this was only the number given to the few balrogs which survived the elder days and the war for the sake of the elves. This is because I cant imagine there being so few balrogs fighting and possibly being defeated in all those long years. this means there could have been dozens if not hundreds of Balrogs and other evil Maiar serving Melkor, yet only the 7 Balrogs and a few unspecified dark spirits actually survived to welcome Melkor in his return to Angband. After all, if only up to 7 ainur joined him in his discord. The discord feels much more lackluster. I like to think some of the Luciferian influences we see in Melkor might have stemmed from paradise lost, or even if it was only Catholic influences, the bibilical understanding is 1/3rd of the total angels in heaven becoming fallen. Obviously this is all speculation, but I think the amount of evil Maiar was much more significant, if 1/3rd of the Maiar joined melkor, and the vast majority of them were destroyed in his early wars and especially in the loss of Utumno. leaving him with the few Balrogs that survived, likely in Angband and Utumno's undiscovered lower dungeons. With orcs being a newer creation at the time, picturing the few prototype orcs and 7 balrogs make the struggle very underwhelming. And Tolkien is seldom underwhelming (Edit: I know Ainur cannot be "destroyed" I just imply their physical form and the strength of their spirits, likely being diminished if not unhoused during these battles)
@dubya85
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
Divine light acts like the Holy Spirit
6:38
Please bring us a Patreon page :)
2nd time listening
@afuaioane1644
3 жыл бұрын
😂 I'm finally got back into my account. Listening for the first time 4th time
@afuaioane1644
3 жыл бұрын
Gives me the chills everytime you speak slowly to emphasize the content 😱😬😊
Mellcor is brothers with manwa right that's why he shows him merci