The Yamaha WR250F Is Not What You'd Think Anymore
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The new Yamaha WR250F is no longer the trail riders’ best friend it once was… Those familiar with the couch-like suspension setup and smooth, tractable engine characteristics will be in for a rude awakening upon swinging a leg over what is undeniably, a different animal nowadays... Pro enduro riders however, might just rejoice!
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Starring:
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Writer/Director:
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Cold Opening
2:10 Intro
2:27 Motocross
4:39 Hard Enduro
5:13 Enduro/Cross Country
5:51 Trail Riding
7:27 Conclusion
8:55 End Screen
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@Antholography
2 жыл бұрын
@Ash WR250R instead of the WR250F.
@FlynnKells
2 жыл бұрын
Did i see the wr on trade me the other day ?
@stefpi7324
2 жыл бұрын
If you want a smooth WR, why did you plug the competition ECU?
@user-jx4pw1ml3v
5 ай бұрын
@@Antholography😂
I can't describe how well these videos are put together, I love it.
I’m glad I bought a 2022 TE250i instead of the WR250f which I was actually leaning towards but due to availability issues I ended up with the Husqvarna. After riding a 2003 525 EXC for almost 20 years I wasn’t too sure about going back to a 2 stroke but my new bike is absolute magic for a 65 year old veteran rider like me. It is fast, plush, has crazy good brakes and clutch, EFI with incredible range and no pre-mix to mess with, runs cool compared to my EXC and the list goes on and on. The WR250f looks very cool and I would have bought one if available but I found a place that was blowing out last years TE250i’s at a price comparable to the Yamaha so I pulled the trigger. Your video has confirmed my decision and I very much appreciate your insights and thoughtful comments. Greetings from Washington state USA.
@michaelburgin9211
Жыл бұрын
Hello from BC Canada, just north of you! I myself just bought a 2022 TE250i. I'm watching these videos for the fun of it, as my last bike was a 2009 YZ250, but I'm quite happy with my choice, the Husqvarna wasn't cheap but ever first ride of the season running with the boys, it didn't tire me out at all! Pretty fantastic machine, i just wish there wasn't so much white on it!
You described the CRF450RL perfectly. Everything from the twitchy throttle to the need of a heavier flywheel. These are the exact areas us noobish riders are addressing to tame the bike. You could literally do the same video and only change the bike and it would make total sense. Yet after all this I still 100% love this bike and it's totally worth dialing it in the way you want it without giving up the Japanese reliability that sold the bike to you in the first place. I imagine people who pull the trigger on the WR250F will feel the same way. Thanks Ash.
I wasn’t expecting this at all. Respect the honesty. Awesome video!
You showed exactly what I experienced with my 2017 WRF250: a motocross bike with lights. As I'm an average enduro rider, this bike was a pity for me. I sold it to a young fast rider who is so happy with. I'm now enjoying a KTM500EXCF that makes me a faster rider.
@georgihitrov
Жыл бұрын
From which year does the wr250f become more race-oriented and lose the "plush" trail characteristic?
@gillesgenete9598
Жыл бұрын
@@georgihitrov the WRF range has allways be the race range at Yamaha. The racing performance was increased with the reverse engine ( inlet in front, exhaust at rear), I don't remember which year but before 2016 for sure. WRR is the trail range which replaced the TTR range.
@danieldigiuseppe7912
Жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm very new to dirt bikes. I just bought a 2005 wr250f. I rode it through some nasty trails. And I like it a lot. How are you more comfortable on a 500? Wouldn't it be heavier and more powerful. Like more of a handful on trails?
@gillesgenete9598
Жыл бұрын
@@danieldigiuseppe7912 my KTM500EXCF is 10kg lighter than my former WRF250. Of course more power, 55hp instead of 35, true that 250 power is enough for any trail. The point is on a trail you ride the 500 at lower revs than a 250, thanks to more torque. That means less noise, easier riding, less gear change, and about the same gas consomption. Makes me more confident about reliability over long rides. On YT you may see guys having ridden their 500 over more than 100.000km fully loaded.
I bought a 2023 WR new. Came off a KTM 2019 2 stroke. I have a clutch weight, and the throttle sensor issue was fixed for 2022. I can not fault it. Great bike and it does do the hard enduro thing now without the stalling issues pre-2022.
I agree , I have the same bike and it’s extremely hard to ride in slow technical type riding but does love the faster paced stuff , it’s a race bike and I wish it was a little more mellow like the older ones and with a little lower seat height .
@jvogler_art4708
2 жыл бұрын
I'm taller so i like the high seat height. I like that it comes out of the box very aggressive and i'm gonna wanna revalve the bike for my weight anyway. So really the only thing i'd have to do extra is a new flywheel. As someone torn between a 250 and a 450.. This did make the 250 more appealing to me. But i think the low end torque of the 450 is also very, very appealing. But it has a lot of top end i don't need and 20 something extra pounds of weight. I wish they made a 300 4 stroke for the perfect middle ground. But i agree, this bike kinda does come off like a watered down YZ250FX. I'm a diehard Honda and Yamaha fan, so buying a bike from one of those brands over something like KTM is a no brainer. The price point and available parts is just way better to me. I love the Japanese reliability, and i grew up riding hondas and yamahas so i'm loyal to those brands. It's a shame Honda discontinued it's XR line because i think if they really put effort into an XR400r in 2022 it would be an amazing machine and a good competitor to these WR's. The CRF 250F just seems so lackluster, I wanna see honda make an enduro/trail bike with a solid suspension setup like yamaha. i think the CRF250F is the kind of mellow bike people want though. Low seat too!
@hurt1704
2 жыл бұрын
Are these wr250f’s not mellow like they were in 2006 and early years? That’s a bummer.. if I wanted a race bike, I’d buy a race bike
@MisterQ007
Жыл бұрын
@@hurt1704 I have an 2006 and 2023. definitely more aggressive than my old one
@hurt1704
Жыл бұрын
@@MisterQ007 that’s a shame. They were such solid trail bikes before
@48jerrybiker
3 ай бұрын
Definitely lower seat.
Sounds like they need to make a 350. I bloody well wish (wush) they would.
@jemd7326
2 жыл бұрын
That would be so fucken good if there was a wr350f
@Fontainebleauify
2 жыл бұрын
@@jemd7326 I'd prefer 300, my 250fx just need a little, not much.
Yamaha WR250F has it's issues. I've built four WR250F's so far to my liking (-07, -17, -21 and currently -22). From the latest builds I've posted some videos to my channel. Also tried to explain why certain changes has been done. Don't get me wrong, WR250F is a damn good bike. But like all bikes, it also needs to be built to suite your weight, riding style etc. etc.
@georgihitrov
Жыл бұрын
From which year does the wr250f become more race-oriented and lose the "plush" trail characteristic?
@parjanfin
Жыл бұрын
@@georgihitrov depends on the level what you think is race-oriented and what is "plush"? At least these EU -models started to be more race-oriented from -21 onwards. Obviously you need to build even those to your liking. In my opinion there's no suchs thing as "Race ready" bike :)
I bought a WR250R before I knew there was a distinction between the R and F. Having raced motocross, I bought the WR from all the reviews that it likes to rev high like a 2-stroke. At first I hated the R because it was nothing like the F. Thought of buying F suspension and sub frame to reduce weight until I softened the suspension. Former owner had it hard as a rock. Went on a severely rocky trail system and took a long time to trust the stock tires. End result, once I learned the stock tires could be trusted I was railing the trails like a pro. Love the bike now and to my wildest surprise I love the stock tires. Never thought I would ever say that. Fuel injection is what really makes this bike. Chugs through anything without stalling. Say that about my former DRZ400S.
Sold my WR250f (admittedly a 2006) and bought a Husky FE350 and so far couldnt be happier. The WR is a fantastic bike, I honestly mean that 100%, but the stalling on steep rocky hills caught me out a couple times and watched friends sail past whilst i was struggling. Hard to have nice things to say about the WR at the top of the hill when you get there last. Everything else i really liked about it, and it actually has snappier bottom end than the efi husky, but give it a wrist load and the husky is in another tier. Can see why nobody rides WRs for enduro anymore. Its pumpkins and huskies with the odd red or blue 450 in the mix. Great vid mate!
I’ve been saying this for half a decade now, the pre-EFI WR250F’s were a far better all around machine than these new ones...and more reliable to boot.
@christopherbrown1661
2 жыл бұрын
god damn not taking my 03 away neveerrrrr
@offroad8055
2 жыл бұрын
I have an 04 that I’m hanging onto. Runs like a champ and doesn’t sound like a sewing machine👍
2016 wr250f bought new. 200 hours and counting. Still loving it. She's very special on the soft fast terrain that I love to ride. Derestricted and Akrapovic gives it some grunt. MX DNA is noticeable and Ktm's are better on the slow hard stuff (recent 350excf is a better allround bike).
@listenup9710
Жыл бұрын
I've got the same bike, around 160 hours now from new and I love it, I have a heavier flywheel and some other mods for more tech riding. Have you done a top end or any other internals? I haven't opened mine up at all?
@aureliom75
Жыл бұрын
@@listenup9710 at around 130hrs I had an hydrolock and bent the rod. New rod, piston, rings and bearings and she was reaping again. She was already burnig a little oil... I guess she could have made it until 200h...
Got a 2015 and I love it. This video is making me want to sell everything and get the '22!
Interesting to see your experience on this bike. I have a WR250R and it’s so comfy and relaxed. Almost too plush. You jump it, and immediately bottom the suspension. It tractors along well but also struggles in hard enduro type situations. I had a YZ250 and it was painful to ride slow. And a bit of a handful in hard enduro stuff. I now have a YZ250X with a Apex head and Lectron carb. Absolutely night and day. Suspension is plush and comfy but you could still jump it as long as you don’t expect super cross level of performance. It tractors along effortlessly. It can be ridden more relaxed. It can be pushed hard. It excels in hard enduro terrain. It’s just so playful and fun and pulls like a damn freight train when you’ve got the open space for it. I’ve ridden a 450FX and there’s no way I could ride hard enduro on it. But I would thing a WR250FX is a solid performer?
100% on point. Shop Yamaha rider Kyron Bacon is currently leading the points standings outright in the Australian offorad championship and also leading the Australian 4 day enduro outright all on the humble wr250f... maybe there's something to it? "nah she's just an old ag bike mate"
I ride mostly slow technical so I added two teeth to the rear sprocket. Problem solved. As for the stalling, just learn how to use the clutch more/differently (and also, the bigger rear sprocket helps a lot for that). Problem solved again. But all in all, very fair and accurate review in my view.
It's interesting....I've got a 17 250FX. Bought a used programmer and tweeked tuning a bit,now it's just about the perfect bike for literally anything from moto(I'm no pro) to extreme singletrack.(Rocky mountains of Canada has nasty,flowy and everything in between) Besides protection they only thing not stock is an inch lower seat. Suspension is good enough with clicker adjustments for everything...and quite frankly the best suspension I've had on an off roader. I rarely ever stall the bike. Bike revs to the moon and ive never thought I didn't have enough power. I honestly can't find much bad to say about the 250FX (tho I hear the newest edition is a bit different). I got it for dirt cheap pre covid....and currently don't think there's another bike I'd want.....especially with the price of bikes nowadays.
Thanks for giving a balanced review. These bikes are great for going fast, but work poorly for hard technical riding. As a long time Yamaha fan I just can’t understand why they have refused to develop suitable hard enduro models. Their best effort, the YZ 250X, is a mild update of a 20 year old design, but lacks a 6th gear, electric start, or adequate electrical power for lights. E start saves the technical rider tons of energy in the tough sections, and likewise makes turning off the motor a non issue when riding with friends. Yamaha was known for innovation. What happened?
I started watching this, and at first i thought this was just gonna be the typical Biased WR250F is the best review. But i continued watching, and by the end, i was in full agreement. I Love enduro motorcycles , and enjoyed riding WRs alot, But that was before they felt like a MX bike. Well put together review, unbiased. Pointing out its Benefits, which i agree with. But, one thing i look for is the flaws, to see if people felt what i felt. And I 100% agree. You've earnt a new subscriber 🤘
I Totally agree, i have the 21 wr250f and I've found that i just keep throwing money at it to make it good for the trails, sprockets, clutch, throttle tamers, trying and failing to find a map to take the edge off at low rpm's to help with traction rather than it trying to throw me off the back of it!! even so, i do love the bike, its just not what it should be from the show room floor!
@ashleylyle9337
2 жыл бұрын
My 05 TTR 250 needed no mods to run trails, its a road/trail its model has trail in its category even just hit the trails all day low matenance and goes more places than so called modern trail bikes, and a third the cost to buy, and bulket proof engines, keep ya WR250s ill take my old girl to the back hehe
@guyblakeburn6080
2 жыл бұрын
I have exactly the same bike. Did anything you changed make a real difference?
@_WebersWorld
2 жыл бұрын
I rode my Wr450f for a while now mostly stock with gummy rear tire and love it for single track and woods riding you have to be able to ride fast and brake fast ! Skills deliver!
@troyza450
2 жыл бұрын
Tryed the “ smooth linear/slippery conditions” map? My 2018 wr250f luggs down beautifully, must have a aftermarket muffler though
@_WebersWorld
2 жыл бұрын
@@troyza450 I’m running the same year yz450f exhaust and it’s great! Not much issue from we’re I’m from for the spark arrest issue so the yz450f exhaust is nice I haven’t changed my maps at all either.. just feels great way it is but would maybe try enduro map for something different
I've gotta say, the WR250F really might be the best 4 stroke Enduro bike ever. As far as 4 stroke Enduro bikes go at least
You said what Iv been saying since 2015. I had an FX, and sold it cuz it was too aggressive when 50% of time I putz around and explore. I went to go buy a '21 WR250f, and could feel it was too similar to the FX. Jerky throttle, Suspension amazing except at slow rough terrain. And the clutch drags from the factory. I have and had race bikes, but my trail bike is now a '21 Kayo K6 250 EFI and it was $5k new. Those and the WR are the only 250f enduro platforms out there with a 6 speed, lights, efi, and softer suspension. Im glad I bought it, bike is fun and plush on the trails.
@georgihitrov
Жыл бұрын
From which year does the wr250f become more race-oriented and lose the "plush" trail characteristic?
@tieoneon1614
Жыл бұрын
@@georgihitrov '15 and up. But thats the year with efi, 6 speed and the reversed motor also
I would LOVE for Yamaha to make a WR300R, X, and F. Little torqueier down low. I think a vast majority of riders could use a tame 250 with low end torque to just cruise on trails but send it hard if needed. I’d also love Yamaha to develop some new 2 strokes. As I’ve always had my eye on the KTM300
@georgihitrov
Жыл бұрын
From which year does the wr250f become more race-oriented and lose the "plush" trail characteristic?
Films are getting epic bro keep it up
GYTR computer and soft sidewall tires (Starcross 5s) really broaden it's abilities.
Pretty much agree with all that. I have a 2020 which is identical. No doubt a flywheel or clutch weight would make a big difference. The snappy power is incredible for a 250f and the suspension can save you. Good review 👍
@ashsowman
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Hammo!
Well said. I'm a Yamaha man but now I ride Sherco exactly for these reasons. Can't wait until Yamaha will make a torquey WR300F or WR300, (even if it's called Fantic with Minarelli engine)
@ApocGuy
2 жыл бұрын
gasgas here. love those goats. i dont think any MX/Enduro will come close to trial bikes once you hit technical stuff.
I have a yz250fx. This bike seems identical with a light. You nailed it.
I want a modern alternative to the XT 350 👍 Ride it all day across loads of different types of terrain
I just love the calm level headed nature of this video, very thorough and interesting.
Another superb video. 👍👍. My 1st ride back off road ( enduro track uk) was on one of these… was hard work for me though I lived the look. 2nd time out I was on a new sherco 250 2t…. Which I now own. Soooooooo much better for a newer rider. 👍👍
You need to set it up a bit more ! Wind the High speed compression damping right off on the shock , wind the fork compression off 4 clicks and wind in 2 more clicks on the fork rebound ! Ride it again with 105mm of sag and re evalute the suspension . A Rekluse Radius CX clutch makes it easy ! My 2021 WR250F is the best bike ive ever ridden , Im a retired Pro level enduro rider in Australia . regards Adam Troy
@heavensplayer
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man I have this bike too but I’m honestly so confused as to what you said? I’m sort of a beginner , do you have somewhere I can research to understand all of what you said? Lol
Still loving my old heavy TTR 250!
BEAUTIFULLY MADE, and HONEST! Bravo dude! 👏 💪 You gave a true reflection of ownership, and people need to hearthe truth!
I have a 2006 WR250F and bought a 2023 WR250F few months ago. I can absolutely confirm it is not like the old generations. it's very aggressive, corners really well, very stiff, becomes smoother the faster you ride it. Throttle is an on/off switch. no in between. Beats you up. Wears you out. It is a full time woods race bike. Not a smooth running, well equipped trail bike. I should have test ridden one and KTM 350EXCF, KTM250XCF before making a purchase. I might have chosen differently.
We need some more sticks adventures with the boys
You hit the nail on the head with absolutely EVERYTHING! I had a 2018 WR250F and I had all the some loves and complaints. It was great for fast enduros and when I started getting into hard enduro it was so far from the bike I needed. Awesome work on the videos as well, the video style reminds me a lot of Top Gear mate. Keep it up.
@wakawaka12320
2 жыл бұрын
Your right the WR line is are just hyvrid yzs and just stall and are way to violent and harsh for hard enduro, i swapped to a 300 2 stroke and its night and day
@georgihitrov
Жыл бұрын
From which year does the wr250f become more race-oriented and lose the "plush" trail characteristic?
I own a 2021 wr 250f and it feels more like it’s set up for moto cross then enduro
I’ve notice the same I stall all the time in slow stuff but it just takes some getting uses to and getting the competition ECU and CCU so you can tune the engine to exactly what you want on the 2023 model it’s a Awsome bike I climbed all kinds of hills and hard induro riding
I put a same year yz450f exhaust on my Wr450f and I love it , the bike is a dream for sure love it for woods riding!
Great video man! I love Yamaha so much
Love my 04 five valve wr. All the tricks done and pipe jetting.1 tooth larger counter shaft sproket. Hauls mail.
@agezzz2854
2 жыл бұрын
5v????
@khaccanhle1930
2 жыл бұрын
My 2005 has a 5 valve engine. It's sweet, power bomb and exhaust, it's sweet. I don't know if I'll ever get rid of it.
@techs1smh13
2 жыл бұрын
@@agezzz2854 yes 5v up until around 2015 they had 5 valve head .after Yamaha went to 4
I was riding the MX250 in75 on the track and the DT 360 for everything else in between )) that was a comply bike to ride for long distances, they were fun times bike wise and not much has changed ! Now its space-age polymers and new alloys , 2-- all but gone , water cooled ,larger motors ,disc brakes
Nice work! I got a dyno tune on my '15 FX at Honda Country in Ashburton, it gave a great improvement on the snappy throttle and stalling issues once the fueling and timing are optimized! I have an 18 inch road Tyre you can borrow for the dyno test if you're interested.
@maxbell5094
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I'm only 10 years old but thanks 💯
Just come from an 18 model KTM excf250 to a 22 WR250f agree on your comments. Mega engine makes the KTM feel like a 150 , but suspension is knocking my teeth out. Will get it revalved and set up for me. I've tried a rekcluse clutch in it and no more flame out stalls etc. Makes the tight woods stuff 100% better. But I need more confidence in the front end. Don't do much jumping in UK enduro events and don't go MX on it so making it softer won't hurt.
Honesty is priceless! Great video Ash 🙏👍
I have a 2015 WR250F with 250 hours on it and have had zero maintenance issues. My next bike will be the YZ250FX though, because it is cheaper to add a fan and lights to the FX rather than add an ecu, exhaust pipe and wifi to the WR.
Hmmm, I am after the 'old' WR - something soft, good for the weekend guy, no racing and just something to enjoy the trails on - what would you recommend?
The yz250fx is a trail bike because it is both Yzf and Wr mashed into one and the Wr is a full on enduro bike
@222wheelsdown
2 жыл бұрын
so many things wrong with this. the yz250fx is a GNCC bike (not EPA regulated, unlike the WR series). The yz250fx is also not a “mash” of the yzf and wr. It is 90% identical to the yzf except has a kickstand, larger gas tank, o ring chain, etc. the WR series are the trail bikes, the FX series are essentially motocross bikes made for closed course racing, and the yzf are obviously the purpose built mx bikes.
Great review bro...I've got the 07wr450 fully derestricted... And the amount of low down tourqe is mind blowing
Great summery and video. Much respect. 💪😃👍 I stall my 4T allll the time. Gonna move to a 2T eventually.
Once you chuck a after market muffler on let me know how you go at hard enduro. I didn’t like riding my WR250f on more technical tracks till I changed the muffler and map
@jemd7326
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the exact same bike and I put a pro cuircut t7 on it the full system and it opens it up so much better and it’s quite a bit louder to and it’s goes hard on the enduro
@troyza450
2 жыл бұрын
@@jemd7326 that’s good to hear, my 2018 is grouse for hard enduro
@nickovdub6131
2 жыл бұрын
Wish we this lucky to get the gytr ecu and ccu as standard....almost a year later and I'm still trying to find one as they are all on backorder
@troyza450
2 жыл бұрын
@@nickovdub6131 oh wow
Yamaha need to make a 350 that would be a game changer
Yamaha couldn't be anymore confusing with all these models. I love Yamaha but trying to pick apartment all the different models is just not an easy thing to do.
From what you say, it’s a cross country machine: perfect for high speed open terrain and jumps. I mean, I’m a xc rider at most so bring it on!
Great video, i haven’t even watched it yet and it’s amazing
I just got one and have to say I couldn't have put it better myself. Messing around with the mapping and suspension helps a lot, but it's still not a 300 2 stroke, which I feel I should have gotten. I just have more trust in Honda and Yamaha than the (Indian/Chinese) European brand.
I dont know anything abt dirt bikes but man i enjoyed watching this.
Sweet video Ash, love an honest review. 👌🏻 My 22, exc came with a spark arrestor btw. 😏
@ashsowman
2 жыл бұрын
My mistake if I've got that wrong, certainly a year or two ago they didn't come with them though and nor did the Akrapovic ones on the powerparts store which always just confused the hell out of me
@ethics3
2 жыл бұрын
@@scottyd2262 Would you care to list the things he got wrong "mate" ? Ohh.. Sorry.. I forgot to put a " lol " down there
@maxhpfast
2 жыл бұрын
@@scottyd2262 na it's all you bro
i swear this guy can sell me anything, i watched his yz450fx vid, then had to go buy one, now i want one of these!
I have a 2020 and ride single track exclusively. A Rekluse solves your issues with the bike fairly well. A two stroke YZ250X solves it even better.
@firemenonbikes
2 жыл бұрын
YZ250x with Rekluse and LHRB, so good.
Glad you tuck the time to highlight all the pros & cons on this bike. I was going to purchase one very soon! Think I’ll pass for now or Maybe go foe the 2020 model 👍🏻
Iv ridden 2st all my life and fancied swapping over to 4t and still kinda wanted that 2st feel , which imo it does, feels lively ..I ride bit of moto x and lanes / woods .. Great bike for me
Thanks for your videos and honesty. So what else would one need to get the WR250F to be enduro friendly? Do you have a video? Also anyone have ideas as to what the 2023 WR250F will be like? Thanks
I own one of these. I think you're about right. I had the suspension revalved, and it's still a little stiff for the gnarly terrain I like, but it's okay. I wrote a KTM 300 XCW for 7 and 1/2 years before I bought this bike, and this is a better bike, But the transition is beating the shit out of me
That may just be the best bike review I’ve ever seen. And Ive seen a few
My WR450f had the same flame out/stall issue and I put an aftermarket exhaust on it and the problem is gone. The stock exhaust even fully gutted is still too restrictive in my opinion.
i have a 2021 WR450f, i have it street legal and i also take to trails and everything else. good review
I'm fairly sure that you can change the fuel mapping just by app
Well I’m sold. I currently ride a 2021 kx250xc and would love a sixth gear.
Early two stroke wr’s were essentially mx bikes with wide ratio transmissions.
@ericbrandt829
2 жыл бұрын
Yes and a 95MPH capability....I’m going to a 250X with a Panthera electric starter to have a nice Enduro bike myself...2T are the best!
I have a 19 wr250f and that thing stals all the time aswell, but when you are on the throtle and give it all the beans it got, it's a super nice bike
@ApocGuy
2 жыл бұрын
but that's what WR was made for, right? not full on gas MX-ing...
3:57 that stick flying!
i got the 2019 and u gotta add the fmf megabomg plus gytr 4.1 and change mapping on the power tuner. open the airbox and add gummie- tubliss tires and you got a tractor torque machine. i'm also 190lbs on stock suspension so its a little more plush on the hard enduro
Pro edit, really good edit. Congrat!
They need to bring back the wr250r but upgraded to 300-350cc it would sell like crazy!
Tried adjusting the mapping to help with the jerky throttle ( more fuel and less ignition down low) ? My -20 isn’t jerky at all, I bought it used so i dont know how it was acting when brand new. And the suspension has been revalved and feels great so far, gonna test some more rocky harder enduro trails soon. but a -22 i testrode stalled 20times in 10 minutes for me. 😬 is the -22 engine very differently built from the -20 model?
Japanese bikes need to fill in their increasingly large gaps between the entry level and competition bikes... you know where most recreational riders fall into. lifetime of riding red and finally ditching my 21 250RX for a shade of orange as much as it pains me to do so...
@22dagget
2 жыл бұрын
Well Kawasaki does. The KLX300R is a fantastic bike for the money
I hate my son’s and wish I never bought it. It’s absolutely terrible when compared to my 300tpi on our rocky, tight single track here in East Tennessee for all those reasons you mentioned . It’s for sale now and if someone buys it there’ll be another 300 xc-w in the garage. If not, I’m having the suspense revalved/resprung and a rekluse clutch installed. My God what a great review. Just subscribed.
You are riding to low in the compression cuz of your weight. Wind the compression 3 clicks from full soft, and wind the rebound 3 clicks from full hard to hold u up in the soft part of the compression. Still feels firm but great for slow enduro riding.
Great summary. I'd love to return to the WR's of old where I started. Riding the latest yammy against a 2011 CRF250X last week it was clear to me the honda was more comfortable, versatile, useable etc. I don't think they can do much about the snatchyness with the FI, you either have the power or you don't, lag was a built in feature of the carb. They've moved the power up the rev range a bit (like the KTM's) which makes it a little less snatchy down low versus the 2018 FX etc...but you sacrifice low end power as a result. As for the rigidity... you just can't fix that, you have to wait for the factory to address it. Softer springs is a start. If billy bolt runs .43 on his forks, god knows why yamaha went from .42 on the old gen to .46 ? on the new one. It just amplifies the frame issues.
@georgihitrov
Жыл бұрын
From which year does the wr250f become more race-oriented and lose the "plush" trail characteristic?
@Superdisco199
Жыл бұрын
@@georgihitrov its gotten a little more rigid with each revision i.e My friend sold his 2015 to go back to his 14 carb model. 18, 20, 22 continued to become more race oriented.
I have a Suzuki RMX 450. Love it.......though I do wish it were 20 lbs lighter. Great all around bike.
Great video. Very informative and entertaining.
Got a 2020 and feel the same 80% of the riding I do it’s the best I bike ever had but the tight snotty stuff it struggles. Have a gytr system and richened up mapping and works a lot better. I just softened the suspension right up if I’m riding the tight stuff helps some
Bro's aiming for Fortnine with this level of production value🫡
this shouldnt of have hit as hart as it should, i felt that one
I’ve got the 2023 and I’ve learned to just ride the clutch more
Great video, but I have to disagree with you. I had a 2018 WR250F and I now have a 2022 WR250F. My 2018 was a little too soft, but it was easily fixed with clicker adjustment. At least the clickers make a noticeable difference on KYB suspension (unlike WP). My 2022 is just about perfect straight out of the box, (with a FMF pipe). My only criticism is that it is easier to stall the engine than my 2018 was, but I put that down to rider error (my lack of talent). I find the FX version more harsh and not as good at soaking up trail hits at Clubman pace. The manufacturer can't win as everyone likes a different setup, but that's why they're adjustable.
@georgihitrov
Жыл бұрын
From which year does the wr250f become more race-oriented and lose the "plush" trail characteristic?
I guess I’ll keep ahold of my 09 wr250f with 290 kit. I haven’t found a better bike for the riding I do. Has a recluse clutch, suspension by racetech suspension valved and spring just for me….. I always want a new bike. Til I ride one
Loved the video. And the type of riding you described is exactly what i am looking for in a bike. Which KTM would you recommend that would solve the issues that this bike has at slow speeds?
@jnavonoD
2 жыл бұрын
150 or 250exxw 2 stroke. 2 bangers don't flame out at low RPM like 4 bangers do.
Brilliant videos! They have a Top Gear feel to them.
Your videos are so underrated.
A rekluse clutch solves nearly all those problems. Had a 250fx, and the snappy throttle is easily overcome by clicking up a gear
@tieoneon1614
2 жыл бұрын
Never was a fan of Rekluse, but just picked up an '05 WR250f with one and its amazing. Second gear pulls so smooth from idle and most engine braking is gone at low rpm. Love the 5 valve engines too.
Great vid mate. 👌 The Sherco 300 SEF Factory is everything the WR250F should be. Extra 50cc for torque and the 2 position map switch stock. Softer tune in the KYB suspension. All the extras fitted standard that KTM charge you for, Plus even has the gripper seat cover 😉 Maybe check it out 👍
@stelio37
2 жыл бұрын
True, if only had the reliability of the Yamaha
@Danger_mouse
2 жыл бұрын
@@stelio37 Don't know where you'd heard they haven't 🤷
@rayheppner8391
2 жыл бұрын
The Sherco is better looking as well other than the huge silencer. It feels lighter and less bulky as well.
@oakblokemoto4940
2 жыл бұрын
I can attest - Had an 18 sherco 300sef from new and now a 20 wr250f. The Sherco definitely doesn't have more torque (surpisingly) and the yamaha does have a map switch aswell as a wifi programmable ecu. Would honestly love to mash the 2 together as there are things I love and hate about both. I would Probably buy a Sherco again as an all round trailrider but the Yam as a racer. It really all depends on your flavour
@Danger_mouse
2 жыл бұрын
@@oakblokemoto4940 There were good updates to the Sherco engine in 2019, and again in the last couple of years. Also the now come with the SSS KYB fork and shock. Definitely worth looking at again, and yes, the Yamaha is a good package as well.
That came with a brake snake? That’s sick. Can you buy them from Yamaha? Like to get one here in Canada for the 250fx.
How about installing a mellow map on it? Won't it make handling easier?
glad i got a klx450, in 2021 it is the perfect enduro bike as you put it, not the perfect hard core enduro but the inbetween stuff,
Great review mate..!