What's haunted me for years was the woman in the hive with the chestburster. If you go by the timeline, it was two weeks until the marines showed up. She was probably the last person to get caught by the aliens.

@James2001

2 жыл бұрын

Just like Newt, she managed to hide and hold out for longer than most, but obviously got caught not long before the arrival of the Sulaco.

@ashscott6068

Жыл бұрын

Or the first alien took out the communications. Or maybe acid from the first one they killed. Maybe even a facehugger. They could have lost comms trying to get the facehugger of the first test subject. That leaves plenty of time. The first queen would have run off and looked for a place to nest. Maybe nothing else happened for over a week, except a few of the colonists casually searching for it. They couldn't have known how much danger they were in. Ripley only assumes that Newt survived longer than 17 days. The only thing that throws a spanner in the works is her "borderline" malnutrition. But Hell...that could be a few days without food

@gina-gz2zs

Жыл бұрын

Duh!

@ghramsey1681

Жыл бұрын

That scene is one of the most pivotal scenes in the film. It literally sets in motion the entire fight in the hive. Before she wakes up and is subsequently and summarily flamed to death the troops were "safe". They would have been at least until they found the Queen's chamber. If she was not also dormant as the other aliens were. I watched a TV version where right as the woman's chest burst... Apone says "FLAMETHROWER move!.... *cut to commercial* UGH! one of the most frustrating edits I've ever seen in a film.

@ghramsey1681

Жыл бұрын

Timeline to receive a signal round trip LV426 to Earth and back is a month. Then time to delcare them unresposive and plan a rescue, cut orders (millitary time takes time) and dispatch a ship. Supposed time the troopers are asleep is 2-weeks more. Let's split the different and think Newt was alone for 7-8 weeks. Not only for two.

I could listen to you talk about the aliens universe all day.

@infojunkieworld

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! I listen to old videos all the time.

@paulburrell4120

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes I do exactly that!

@nikkity5491

2 жыл бұрын

Save all his lore videos onto one playlist Then Profit

@BenjaminBartle-li3pc

2 жыл бұрын

Me too this guy makes a great unique universe even better. He’s really done his homework that’s for sure. Plz keep it up for us to all enjoy

@Scythian046

2 жыл бұрын

His video Nestromo Revisited is one of my favorites. It's actually put me to sleep before, like listening to someone reading you a bedtime story. Even if it's a bedtime story about a killer alien lol.

Newt's scream sounds almost exactly like my tinnitus, so it's like I'm enjoying Aliens 24/7.

@stanstanstan2597

2 жыл бұрын

Tinnitus is fun that way

@TheGuidermichael

2 жыл бұрын

I can relate

@LukeLovesRose

2 жыл бұрын

You know why you have tinnitus right? It's because of the electromagnetic radiation from 5G and all of the other wireless devices out there. I put it to you. For your own health, leave your phone and any other wireless behind and go camping as far away from any wireless device and radar tower as possible.

@Manco65

2 жыл бұрын

@@LukeLovesRose ROFLMAO! Sorry, mine is from gunfire, some full auto. And explosions. The laugh is they bitch about them 3M ear plugs but fuck nobody says a word about them cheap dark orange junk made of solid rubber.😡

@snusemcgoose1001

2 жыл бұрын

@@LukeLovesRose I heard you get it from being exposed to too loud noises while your still a baby-3yo and it from life on from then, it’s pretty common

I wish a LIMITED SERIES was made about the "THE LAST STAND" events from ALIENS right before THE MARINES come down to LV 426. 4 EPISODES are all that's needed. Episode 1: 20 YEARS. Episode 2: ADAM AND EVE of LV 426. Episode 3: THE BIG SCORE. Episode 4: They Mostly Come Out At Night.

@MervluverKt

2 жыл бұрын

Yo would literally be such a gooooooooooood series

@bri55118

2 жыл бұрын

Dark horse did a 2 issue called newts tails, issue one was what happens to the colony ,and #2 was when ripley and the Marines arrived.

@wtfsalommy3250

2 жыл бұрын

Mostly.......

@ryanwolf2229

2 жыл бұрын

Would watch the hell out of that

@KamielRandolph

2 жыл бұрын

Read or listen to Aliens River of Pain

I caught the "mostly, mostly..." bit and had a good, knowing chuckle. You are a keen investigator in this universe and I salute you!

@infojunkieworld

2 жыл бұрын

I caught it as well. I did smirk after I heard it.

@theanti-hypemonitor9079

2 жыл бұрын

@@infojunkieworld same ^^

@noname-oe9jy

2 жыл бұрын

"They mostly only come out at night..."

@infojunkieworld

2 жыл бұрын

Game over man!

@duomaxwell1398

2 жыл бұрын

Made me smile as well, Newt is one brave kid.

Last time I was this early, Ash was still trustworthy.

@ImmortalTreknique

2 жыл бұрын

🤣👍

@Jizzlewobbwtfcus

2 жыл бұрын

LMAO!

@greenthumbstrummer

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@gordons-alive4940

2 жыл бұрын

I never trusted him.

@bombomos

2 жыл бұрын

Damn

35 years anniversary and the film still looks fresh. How many modern films full of CGI can say that. Certainly not the last Predator film. I think it shows the difference between directors who are paid just to make a film and directors who make a film because it is an absolute passion.

@Eye_Of_Odin978

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the new Predator movies are a far cry from what Predator 1 and Predator 2 were, let alone the early Alien movies. Predator 1 is phenomenal movie in its own right. The way it shifts tonally from being an over-the-top action movie to straight-up horror halfway through with the Predator making contact with the Squad is just fantastic cinema.

@devilmanlg1500

Жыл бұрын

It's much like John Carpenter's The Thing. Those practical effects STILL outshine CGI today.

@davidolsen9425

Жыл бұрын

I think that some of the effects in Aliens would benefit from a re-do. Love the film by the way, just think it would help.

@-.----

Жыл бұрын

I Might be stupid, but I liked a lot Prey.

@nomysweetsummerchild3984

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely correct

"Hey guys, you want to move to this cool new colony?" What's it called? "River Of Pain." No.

@peepawghost

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao!

@djofortunato5799

Ай бұрын

“ You know. For kids ! “ Whoops wrong film

@thekingofra5063

10 күн бұрын

"You can count me out!"

@Athrun82

Күн бұрын

Just like the vikings named an island mostly covered in snow "Greenland". Though perhaps at that time it was green so what do I know?

"These people are soldiers Newt here to protect you." - Ripley "It won't make any difference." - Newt Your video gives some extra clarity to Newt's quote. The colony already had some Marines.

@josephruiz7233

2 жыл бұрын

If not Marines, at least Private Bonded Security Teams. The Colonial Marines discovered the Colony and all the evidence of armed Battles with the first waves of Xenos.

@trevorduna7666

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephruiz7233 yeah they first saw signs of combat when they saw the huge acid damage in the main entrance of the colony. They even assumed that the threat was non existent.

@daron6616

2 жыл бұрын

“These people are here to protect you…they’re soldiers.” Newt: “It won’t make any difference.” Hudson to other Colonial Marines: “Did she just call us f*ckin soldiers?”

@josephruiz7233

2 жыл бұрын

@@trevorduna7666 Cameron made that aura and attitude intentional. The Marines thought that the Aliens were wiped out. That's the affect that Cameron was looking for with the Colony looking like a former, and I emphasize "former", Combat Zone.

@trevorduna7666

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephruiz7233 that's what made it so perfect. They let their guard down against the deadliest threat. 120+ deadliest threats.

Those facehuggers are incredibly robust creatures with a hell of a grip. I mean Newt's scream should have blown that slimy thing straight up. Kinda like what it did to my eardrums.

@genxer1

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, she had a scream that would break glass, that's for sure.

@knowthispodcast9182

Ай бұрын

Well, they did say they played the footage in reverse to get the crawling effect so it was probably taking off the other way to get away from that eardrum shattering pitch. Newts scream is the ultimate bad ass text tone! Never miss a text

@WorldWalker128

19 күн бұрын

If having had a waterfall of little cousins in my younger years and later as an adult having 3 nieces has taught me anything, it's that girls under the age of ten have a piercing scream tailored specifically to make their own race go deaf if you're within ten steps of them when they do it.

@nigeldepledge3790

18 күн бұрын

Pardon?

I could just feel the tension hearing the timeline of events unfold. Chilling!

@majerstud

2 жыл бұрын

Amazing, wasn't it? Like a ticking clock....

@AdmiralBison

Жыл бұрын

especially when we know the horrific fate for everyone. Ultimately everyone involved at LV426 ends up dead soon there after.

@himbourbanist

3 ай бұрын

ooh yeah I love the early stages of the infestation when colonists are getting pulled away and going missing little by little and the infestation just keeps getting worse and worse until basically all hell breaks loose

An alien theory upload, this brings a smile to my face.

I just finished the “River of Pain” audio drama. Super cool stuff

@LocalHeretic-ck1kd

2 жыл бұрын

I recently read the book and I wholeheartedly agree.

The Alien movie that we wanted and never was done

@bunnygirlerika9489

2 жыл бұрын

Or at least a animated movie, that would have worked well.

@jaybeam1466

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously. Covenant was a super let down. Prometheus was awesome though.

@bunnygirlerika9489

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaybeam1466 Convenant was okay, i liked it but it i agree, it could have been better. Their reasons for landing on the planet was fine but after that the plot was pretty weak. It was like they tried to cram more lore and explanations than what was needed, which messed everything up. Honestly there are alot of Alien comics and books, why not use those to make movie.

@davetrent6506

2 жыл бұрын

On Audible they have this time-line as a cast reading. It's really good

@charlesreid9337

2 жыл бұрын

Its pretty badly written. People making obviously stupid decisions. Marines etc getting picked off ons by one. Splitting the parry to charge in to..what? Save the infected? Aliens easily overrunninv a secure area with one entrance vs automatic weapons etc. Its ludocrously bad

This would've made a great prequel movie.

@bizzlewizzle9772

2 жыл бұрын

Every other thought in my head while listening to this was your exact statement. It would be horrifying. It would be such an excellent sci-fi horror movie. It would have a built-in audience I just don’t see how it would not be a success. You wouldn’t even have to throw hundreds of millions at the budget. As long as you used good costumes the sets would honestly be minimal. I would even relish the chance to watch a fan made version of this. But anyway. I second your emotion 👍🏼

@richt4009

2 жыл бұрын

I m in agreement. They should have gone ahead with making a film on Hadley’s Hope before making the likes of Prometheus and Convenant which to me were a disappointment. That said Resurrection was not all that great and it’s when the franchise started to really lose its way. I liked the idea of Alien 3 and the plot but it was the CGI which let it down.

@Phoebe5448

2 жыл бұрын

Same here!! I'd absolutely LOVE a prequel movie about Hadley's Hope! Maybe set just after Isolation. The tense foreshadowing build up of the company's decision to start a colony, Newt's parents being all like "This will be the big break for us!" All the subtle signs of the colony being infiltrated, people mysteriously dissappearing. Just get someone competent to recreate the old school 70s style and we're made! Anything better than the "actual" prequels like Prometheus or Covenant.

@Flayne009

2 жыл бұрын

Read the two issue comic "Newt's Tale" for your prequel.

@borysbrzytwa1601

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!I always wanted movie about a Hadleys hope it would be for sure better than Covenant or Prometheus crap

"The dates presented here mostly align with the novel version... Mostly..." Freaking classic!!

nice "mostly" - newt reference :)

@atumcommel

2 жыл бұрын

also catched it :P

@wtfsalommy3250

2 жыл бұрын

Its game over Maaa'an !!!

@jackmullin9247

2 жыл бұрын

@@wtfsalommy3250 it's game over man MOSTLY!

@wtfsalommy3250

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackmullin9247 that would make for a shirt 💪

Hadley's Hope last stand would have made for a very nice Alien: Isolation 2. Endless creative choices for before, during and after the invasion.

I could listen to people talk about my favorite franchise all day long

I can't believe it's as old as me. Happy birthday aliens

@LukeLovesRose

2 жыл бұрын

Happy birthday to the greatest science fiction movie ever made

"Last stand. Must have been a hell of a fight."

@capricornblack3450

2 жыл бұрын

Nice, Frost.

@Flayne009

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, looks that way.

@charleshemphill6923

2 жыл бұрын

Hot as hell in here

@Flayne009

2 жыл бұрын

@@charleshemphill6923 Yeah man but it's a dry heat.

@charleshemphill6923

2 жыл бұрын

Knock it off Hudson 🤣

It's sad that the fate of the Hadley's Hope colony was because of Burke's greed and none of the colonists knew about this until Ripley discovered the directives sent by Burke.

@justsayain9794

11 ай бұрын

But with business ethics as it is today...... Does it surprise you?

@darania1

10 ай бұрын

At least the xenos wouldnt fuck each other over for a percentage right..? @@justsayain9794

@himbourbanist

3 ай бұрын

This little bit confused me a bit the first time I watched it, I always thought it was convenient that the prospectors just so happened to find the derelict ship coincidentally as Ripley was thawed out but on rewatch I realized that the prospectors were literally sent there by the company and by Burke more specifically after Ripley reports her findings. Pretty scummy of them

@cernunnos_lives

Ай бұрын

That's what the moral of the story was. Ripley says: You don't see them f*ucking each other over percentages.

Al Simpson..... also the captain from red dwarf 👌

@Jizzlewobbwtfcus

2 жыл бұрын

YES! :D And the dude who got his throat slit in Clive Barker's "Nightbreed"

@mistermatix8241

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget, he was also a cop in The Fifth Element too, his name is Mac Mcdonald, the guy IS Sci fi!

@johnjaleco5683

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks , I couldn't remember where I'd seen him before and I recently watched aliens again but it still didn't click.👍

@johnjaleco5683

2 жыл бұрын

@Cracking cheese lad Ace Rimmer would defeat the aliens barehanded

@milkybarkid7218

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnjaleco5683 just make sure you smoke him a kipper for when he's done 😁

There's been two times a movie kind of glossed over something. That i thought...."can we go back and get more of that". And they were both from a JC film. The fall of Hadleys Hope and that future scene from Terminator. At least we got a scene in Terminator. This was just left to our imagination.

@RACH90810

2 жыл бұрын

JC can borrow alien is undestructible from t1000

@LordofMovies91

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes your imagination is better than what can be brought to the screen. This is part of what made the first two Terminator movies and Aliens so good.

The inclusion of the deleted scenes of Hadley's Hope (showing the Jorden's finding the Derelict spaceship) back into Aliens was brilliant. I like the further connective tissue it provides if only in a small way.

I was dead set on watching some alien theory all day and got home to see a new upload… Niceeee.

@Phoebe5448

2 жыл бұрын

Quit your grinning and drop your linen, we got ourselves a new upload!! ;)

Funny, I rewatched Aliens last week (3 times in a row actually) and was wondering how the infestation was taking place. But everytime I thought of it I had to stop, because I felt so sorry for Newt from having to experience it (I unwillingly imagine my own daughter in her place). Yes she survived it, but the trauma from having being alone with everyone disappearing.. fuck man..

@GuinessOriginal

Жыл бұрын

She’d grow up to be one tough cookie. Think Vasquez on steroids with Ripley’s experience

@Myndir

Жыл бұрын

@@GuinessOriginal Shame she died in a crash soon after escaping. "Newt died on the way to her home planet."

@lukeyznaga7627

Жыл бұрын

yeah, that would have too traumatizing to most people or kids. Watching it slowly happen and grow...you are right, HAUEhuaheau91.

@maratonlegendelenemirei3352

Жыл бұрын

I thought Rebecca/Newt died along with Hicks?

@richardzowie1984

Жыл бұрын

@@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 In Alien3, yes.

Ahh I was hoping for an in-depth video about this. The fall of Hadley's Hope, a tale for the ages! 🧐

I always wanted to know the story of the woman the Marines found in the nest. Considering the impregnation process only takes a couple of days, she must have survived a long time before finally being captured and taken to the nest. I wonder if she has a story, or is that just a continuity error?

@23Revan84

6 ай бұрын

I don’t doubt she may have escaped the 2nd last battle or last battle. Maybe with the group that left after the loss of both teams. Either way she survived that long is incredible but it was only a matter of time before she was caught. Unlike Newt, she probably didn’t know the duct system and good places to hide. Only so many places to hide with 100+ Xenos running around.

Newt's tale was one of, if not the, first comics that i ever purchased (and was not purchased for me) along with ALIEN: SACRIFICE.

17 days, we're not gonna last 17hrs with those things running around, one of my favourite lines, especially because a short time earlier he was the ultimate badass, just gold. Hey thanks for the vid.

Still my favourite all time film, 31 years later after first watching it on VHS with my mom back in 1990 when I was just 10 years old. Thanks for keeping it alive 😎👍

@RP-ks6ly

8 ай бұрын

Mom took my brother and I (I was 10 or so) with friends to see the original in the theater. My brother and I made it to the chest buster scene and ran out of the theater, we waited in the lobby until the film was over. I have been fascinated with the Alien story (ies) evermsince that night.

Loved the book River of pain,wish they had done a movie following it!

@Lame_Duck

2 жыл бұрын

I liked some part of it. Other parts i didn't like towards the end.

@jacobgordon7998

2 жыл бұрын

I like the book, too. The only minor quibble I may have, and not even a quibble really, is the description/location of the egg chamber in the book. Or rather the discrepancy between how/where Kane found the egg chamber by being lowered all the way down into it, and then how the Jorden's found the egg chamber right next to the fossilized Engineer. Not a big deal for me at all, but a discrepancy. Still really enjoyed the novel.

The Alien Universe is literally the only thing that scares me and gives me nightmares and for that I love it. These videos are great I need more!

@emmasmart6112

7 ай бұрын

Me too and I love it

I watched Alien today, I was just starving for some good Sci-Fi! There hasn't been anything in a while!

@Ryglado

2 жыл бұрын

Have you seen ‘Prospect’ from 2018? It’s decent.

@S-T-E-V-E

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ryglado I wasn't a fan of that film man, I wanted to like it but it was just boring!, I'll tell you what is good though Sputnik from 2020, it was a great sci-fi horror, not that I'm a horror fan but it's a horror like Alien is a Horror! You seen it?

@S-T-E-V-E

2 жыл бұрын

Raised by Wolves was great also! I feel it was the vision Ridley mixed the Alien franchise up in and anoyed us all with Prometheus and Covenant! Not that I didn't enjoy them but they weren't 'Alien'!

@Ryglado

2 жыл бұрын

@@S-T-E-V-E No worries! I can’t disagree that that Prospect was slow moving. Yes, I did see Sputnik and liked it a lot! Another alright low budget one was Archive, if you saw that. Yes, I’ve seen Raised by Wolves too - excellent first half of the series and definitely worth watching! Yes, we didn’t need Prometheus or Covenant (but Prometheus was good if it wasn’t an Alien film!). I’m holding out a little hope with the new Alien series with Noah Hawley involved, but only a little.

@S-T-E-V-E

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ryglado I haven't seen that, I'll give it a go, there's a little known sci-fi from 2018 called Extinction, it's really good in my opinion, give it a go! Also 'I Am Mother' is a great sci-fi film, you might have heard of that one!

Its surprising they never turned this story into a movie. Feel it could be pretty good.

@Tormented22

5 ай бұрын

Don't Disney own the rights to Alien now? It'll probably be a six-season binge watch this time next year.

@LordFalconsword

4 ай бұрын

@@Tormented22 If disney did it, all the aliens would be gay.

@Tormented22

4 ай бұрын

@@LordFalconsword The sexuality of the xeno was established long ago: Queen makes egg, egg makes facehugger, facehugger makes alien. Homosexuality is extremely simple, relatively speaking and not somewhere the xeno species can go. The group of humans however? Maybe one would be gay and one would be trans, and some would be brown and some not. Like society, really, if you think about it. And between you and me, before they actually do this in a show... ...wouldn't it be awesome to see a badass trans woman (or man!) doing cool shit in a film about hostile alien creatures? We don't think of trans people as being badass. I know for a fact Caitlin Jenner could whoop both our asses though :) ☺

@FrostSpirit617

2 ай бұрын

@@Tormented22No.

@mr.l5783

Ай бұрын

Alien Isolation 2

I really wished CA would make a game and revisit this part of Aliens, you could play as either a major or minor character, initially starting off doing your day to day routine on Hadley's Hope, word through the grape vine is one of the colonists family's has scored something big time, next thing you know everyone's on a need to know basis, upper management won't say a word til an "accident" occurs in the Medlab, before you know it all hell breaks lose, sheer terror, confusion and panic among the colonists... your family and friends "disappearing" one at a time, until you finally see it for the first time... Now that, is a game I would spend my life savings just to play

@hrnytinoker4146

2 жыл бұрын

Same that sounds amazing it also sounds refreshing.

@hippoace

2 жыл бұрын

What will be the ending be? Waking up to a group of Marines trying to save you as you hang from the wall?

@glenakatsr

2 жыл бұрын

@@hippoace Could be I'd rather there was no happy ending, there really wasn't one for any of the colonists save Newt unless you include Alien 3 then maybe not 😁

@minicle426

2 жыл бұрын

@@glenakatsr Brackett perhaps? Loosely following River of Pain.

@ghramsey1681

2 жыл бұрын

What some people have talked of is wishing you could play AS Newt. She's alone. Her brother, and parents are gone. All she has is herself and her knowledge of the colony airducts. Maybe have a tutorual stage where she played "the game" (hide and seek) inside the air ducts with her friends. The novelization of Aliens mentions this twice. Once when she is being jeered as a"cheater" by her brother Timmy right before their parents make their fateful journey. This is shown in the deleted scenes of the film. And later in the novel only Newt says to Ripley "I was best at the game" and Ripley understands she probably meant the air shaft system given where they found her living. She goes on to mutter about having a good memory and that she could get into places others were too big. It makes her the Marines' Ace in the hole when they're escaping. When we think about it Newt was not so minor a character in Aliens. She was every bit as important as Hicks, Vasquez or Bishop. EVEN Newt as a playable character for one level would be interesting. A DLC pack since her mission would start with death of her parents and end when the Colonial Marines and Ripley arrive.

Your efforts and the passion you put in the topic must be commended. Great work, always a pleasure to tune in!

I love this channel and how it keeps the lore feeling so fresh

Would nice to see a prequel movie of what happened a Hadley's Hope before the Marines arrived.

@dmongru

Жыл бұрын

I’d rather have James Cameron do this instead of an Avatar sequel

@eddieolshefski6467

Жыл бұрын

Or heck, even a TV show of the event.

@Dreadpirateflappy

Жыл бұрын

@@eddieolshefski6467 there is already a book, could easily adapt that to TV or a movie.

@trj1465

Жыл бұрын

As much as I'd love a prequel with the events leading up Aliens, I think it's better as a story untold. The Aliens special edition with extra scenes allows us to imagine the horror, less is more sometimes!

@kimkimpa5150

Жыл бұрын

@@trj1465 Yeah don't give Disney any ideas. We don't need another effed up franchise.

Thanks for this upload, this answered a lot of questions! As many have commented on previous videos, you have an excellent delivery and knack for storytelling, I’ve been hooked since the first upload that I stumbled along months ago! Great work :)

After reading the schlock that was Aliens Aftermath, this is exactly what I needed to celebrate the film’s 35th! Keep up the great work!

I really like your videos on Alien Theory- the missing parts, the technical readouts ( which I can appreciate because I got an A in college level deafting) and the contingency plans not shown in the actual movie. Good job.

If they were smart these events would be the alien isolation sequel

@Y2Kr4SHM4N

2 жыл бұрын

I always wanted to see an alien Isolation sequel with the hordes of Aliens, but a much more subtle approach to combat. Something whereby the player character has the potential to fight off a half dozen aliens or so, but the gameplay penalises combat randomly. Ie- hit points required to kill aliens is random. And sometimes a random xeno may take more ammo to kill than the limited supply the player carries. Aliens that are programmed to use the ducts, and structure of Hadleys Hope to traverse the colony, whilst you try to hide like Newt. And there are a few small groups of surviving colonists, some with an engineer, a doctor, or security specialist in their midst. You have to choose which groups to save, by running quests such as to barricade one group in at the expense of another, or put in place security turrets, or restore the power so they can monitor swarms, and hide accordingly. The games story should be multi-tiered, with the characters being dependent on player choice. Who lives and who dies. The doctors can provide you medical assistance. The engineers can help remotely guide you to parts of the facility that can be closed off, or hatches that can be forced open, and security can remotely control turrets, help you setup mine traps, guide you to dead comrades with weapons and ammunition, or help give you quests to cobble together the components to build your first flamethrower etc… Sewers, vents, corridors. It should be all open to the player. An open world, with colony tractors as transport. The facility, the landing field, the atmosphere processor and all its sub levels and engineering facilities shown and not shown in the film. Alien Isolation plus, in the high octane vein of aliens.

Hey there, this came up in my mentions so I gave it a watch. I thought your narration of the collection of events that lead up to Aliens was pretty darn good and I quite enjoyed this video. It’s amazing that even after all this time, Aliens is still an amazing movie I never get bored of.

Always wished they'd make a movie about the events of Hadleys Hope from the moment the parasite was brought into the complex to the sheer panic as the first xeno bursts out and quickly grows to a fierce humanoid nobody has the capability to fight. "The last stand" as they barricade themselves off and only have the use of small fire arms and seismic survey charges, gradually being dragged into ducts overnight. Would be one of the few movies that wouldn't have a happy ending but I'm all for it!!

@British_Dragon-Simulations

Жыл бұрын

Or maybe even the first 30 minutes of Aliens showing more of what happened at Hadleys Hope. As we do see the start, but it then cuts away after the event with Newts parents. They could have filmed it and released it after. Maybe as a short film at least. As my idea would surely screw up the pacing of Aliens. The pacing of one of my other favorite movies is slightly annoying. 'Terminator 2: Judgement Day'. I seem to lose interest after the prison break and they are driving at night in the car towards Sarah's Mexican friend with the underground weapons storage. That is when I usually stop watching, almost every time I re-watch it. Where the pacing in Aliens is perfect. I'm going to re-watch Aliens now to see if I'm remembering the pacing correctly. Both directed by James Cameron as well as I'm sure you know. "Have you ever been mistaken for a man?" "Have you?" :)

@user-bm8us6lf7x

Жыл бұрын

There was a series called Hadley's Hope and 3 others, 1 being a UK series that looked like Hadley's Hope. Hadley's Hope had the girl named Newt. It was on the cover of TV guide, I had this TV Guide until '00 when it came up missing. There was the movie too and you could buy the big wheel. People called it the Hadley's Hope big wheel.

I saw Aliens live in the theater, 35 years ago. That would make me...old, I'll go with old.

@voiceofreason1208

2 жыл бұрын

Haha.... Don't worry friend, you are not alone. I was 12 when I saw this in the theaters.

@charleshemphill6923

2 жыл бұрын

At least we got to grow up with good films. These movies today are trash.

@vikj1255

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. 1986, it was ahead of its time for scifi. Great sets, and effects. I was 19yo

@PersonalityMalfunction

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Aliens and Die Hard are the most influential cultural events of my youth!

@williammeek765

2 жыл бұрын

When it came out I was there.

This could make for another alien movie much like aliens

@squidlipssupreme168

2 жыл бұрын

It would have been a pretty awesome movie.

@BUTT-HEAD666

7 ай бұрын

I agree 👍👍@@squidlipssupreme168

I love what you do 👍 I wish we had some more lore from films but I am more than happy with what you provide and the comics/novels 🙂

SUPER interesting. I wish they would make a movie out of the Hadley's Hope disaster. I'm definitely going to check out the River of Pain novel. Thank you and keep it up! One more thing, if you could make a video detailing the "studies" they did on the facehuggers and xenomorphs on HH, I think that would be fantastic (if there's enough information, of course).

@BerryNiceToMeetYou

2 жыл бұрын

Instead of the novel, listen to the audio drama. The cast do a great job, it's very well done. You can listen to it on KZread.

It's pretty jacked up when it hits you that HH was wiped out in less than 48 hours

I had not considered the fall of Hadleys Hope as a story worthy of exploration. But upon watching your rendition of the timeline I see it really is full of intriguing possibilities and well worth a set piece in it's own right. I can imagine the personal arguements and positions taken by individuals regarding impromptu expeditions before the Jordan's trip out, not to mention the suspicions they would have had of the company and it's motives. Thank you AT.

Imagine an Alien movie set on a tundra planet. The movie is based off the iconic lovecraft story, The Mountains of Madness (Kinda like The Thing)

@elektrobear2027

2 жыл бұрын

@Mel Gibson After 4 Beers I actually think the thing could take the xenomorphs

@mutolover3851

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like they'd work together

@mutolover3851

2 жыл бұрын

I've alway wanted to see Xenemorphs vs Starship Troopers (the soldiers, not the bugs)

@planbrent

2 жыл бұрын

The thing and alien are the best sci-fi horror films ever made, so I'd imagine that would make for a prolific film

@wartooth88

2 жыл бұрын

@@elektrobear2027 The xenos are silicon based hence I think they would be considered non-organic to The Thing imo. However I'm not opposed to the idea' but I think it would be them saying to each other "look you do your thing I will do mine and lets stay out of each others way."

This convinced me to buy the “River of Pain” audio book. I’m looking forward to it.

@songokusatsu

2 жыл бұрын

Its an amazing tale well acted. Even if we know how the story ends.

@joshuar3632

2 жыл бұрын

Guess ill Google that

@robertmccallum7417

2 жыл бұрын

You won't be disappointed,it's awesome

Love the spooky audio effect @5:00 . well done as always!!

Love your videos mate and rewatched them a lot thanks for your dedication and time.

If you have not listened to River of Pain on Audible you are truly doing yourself a disservice. Excellent project and I believe the next Alien movie should be about what happened at Hadley's Hope.

You are an absolute mad man sir. I felt like I was watching Aliens for the first time in my life. Best video I've seen in ages. Bravo bravo

I'm running a Hope's Last Day session in the near future for the Alien RPG, this video is very useful to me, thank you for making it.

This is the prequel movie we truly needed!!!!

I've been wanting this to be made into a short film or an independent project that leads directly into Aliens for years! Also, it seems lots of people gloss over or ignore one fairly large detail that was highlighted in Aliens: after the first dropship crashes and explodes, Newt remarks that the Xenomorphs "mainly come out at night." This means that they are either nocturnal or fear bright lights.

@legbreaker2762

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's more they understand the value of darkness for cover. They're obviously much smarter than mere animals.

I always thought instead of just making sequels and strange prequels about the engineers they should have done a high budged "series" about Hadleys Hope and the situation there. I think this would be a very interesting thing to watch.

@breembo

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, it would be a good project if disney every decides to do anything.

@freshrot420

2 жыл бұрын

@@breembo The story is pretty much already done for em too! No wait, not even pre-production and they've already ruined it by adding way too much random stuff. Dang, it was good while it lasted.

@antonicholernik1747

2 жыл бұрын

Not really interesting, as everyone know how it would end. A short, like half an hour feature movie add on to the Aliens movie, would be nice though.

@CrniWuk

2 жыл бұрын

@@antonicholernik1747 So? Just because we know how it ends doesn't mean there can't be interesting story lines or characters. I mean it's just your opinion. There has been a comic line about it after all known as Aliens: Newt's Tale.

@bst857

2 жыл бұрын

@@antonicholernik1747 Titanic is one of the best selling movies ever, and the ending isn't exactly a mystery :D

(Alyssane here!)As always thank you for the wonderful content! I never get tired of details from Hadley’s Hope. After Phalanx turned out to be such a good read I’ll have to add River of Pain to my list for next month.

Hadley Hope people: Well, this place is rough but I'm sure with plenty of hard work, we can make this colony work. Aliens: lol.

I've read the novel River of Pain a couple of years ago and listened to its audiobook more than once. This may sound cheesy but a prequel of Aliens using this great novel would be awesome. At least way better than Prometheus, Covenant, i think. Cheers to all Alien universe fans

You have no idea how happy I get when my name is in a film, especially this film.

Honestly I am loving this channel. You are telling us stories that hasn’t even been shown. I legit didn’t know that there were novels of alien and even then, you have info no one knows. And I love it!

Impeccably delivered as always!

I mostly watch your channel at night. Mostly. Another amazing video sir.

This was so well done, so intense! I was tensed up the entire time, and I knew the story!

@alientheory That was great man! Do you realize that you sound like someone from the movie! I can listen to you talk about the alien franchise all day! Keep up the good work and I'll be tuning In!

I love this content as a plus your voice is perfect for this kind of stuff

If Burke had survived the Xenomorph assault in Operations and the last survivors made it to Gateway, that narration would have made an outstanding prologue to Burke and W-Y's trial.

@AdmiralBison

Жыл бұрын

assuming corporations hadn't had bought the justice system in the future.

@maddlarkin

11 ай бұрын

Let's be honest, whether the Xenomorphs got him or not, Burke was never making it off that rock

Absolutely brilliant! keep up the great work!

"The dates mostly align with the novel version. Mostly." Great touch pertaining to Newt's dialog in the movie, love it.

Thank you for all your work putting this video together.

This is absolutely brilliant thank you

How many combat drops? Uh, two. Including this one.

@erict.5724

2 жыл бұрын

Great exchange between Private Vasquez and Lieutenant Gorman, then of course the classic "Awe Man" by Private Hudson. Rest in Peace, Bill Paxton...

@walterheisenberg9278

2 жыл бұрын

@@erict.5724 I would Marry Private Vasquez but she would wear the pants in the house.

@zealot777

2 жыл бұрын

@@walterheisenberg9278 Ditto.

@eldritchmorgasm4018

2 жыл бұрын

@@walterheisenberg9278 She also wears a Smartgun, if you need a spider to be exterminated

@LADYJAYY19788

2 жыл бұрын

Aww mannn

was about to re-watch Aliens and decided to see if someone knew the said timeline described here. Superb work, many thanks

This was always something I wished they had filmed would of been amazing to watch the fall of the colony great work on detailing all this makes it all that much better now :) thank you

I think River of Pain is an excellent addition to the existing lore

I find this information fascinating to the point that its a history lesson regardless of fact or fiction.

I have both River of Pain and Newt's Tale, hearing your excellent monologue and your Synopsis only makes this better, Awesome Video, I too have covered the Aliens, but in Sculpture form on my channel, as a Massive Aliens fan and a Sculptor.

Very informative. Thank you for making and posting this!

Awesome video! So Newt survived for 1 month. On another video it was already discussed why this time was 1 month (plus the emergency call was days earlier) when the marines expected backup in just 17 days. Suppose it could be explained by other marine operations happening closer to them than to Earth and the rescue wouldn't be starting out from Earth.

Dates have to be off. The date Newt's brother and mother die are the 26th and the Mariens arrive the next day. If the Sulaco would have only taken a few days to get there, they wouldn't need to use hypersleep like they did in the movie. I believe in the directors cut, after the operations center is attacked and newt is the only survivor, the Sulco is show approaching with the text "Three weeks later". Either way, it's interesting to hear a detailed timeline

@DavidRox71

Жыл бұрын

After the marines are attacked, Hicks also states that they won't be reported overdue for 17 days before help is sent out. Ripley reminds him that Newt survived longer than that with no weapons. It took over a day for Newts family to get to the alien ship and the father had the face hugger attached on June 21st. The rescue team arrived on the 22nd and he was brought back on the 23rd and had the alien burst out later that day. The other team went out to the ship on the 22nd, which means they shouldn't have made it back until the 24th. Yet they are all back and have aliens bursting out of them by the 23rd. The timelines don't make sense. It also would have taken time for the Queen to be laying the eggs and have them develop with grown face-huggers inside, so the aliens wouldn't have grown in number as quickly as they did in this scenario.

@bryanbeck4177

Жыл бұрын

Also, don't forget that newt was reported to have "borderline malnutrition...but no permanent damage." So it makes sense that newt was on her own for longer than 24 hours when she was found by the Marines and Ripley.

@suokkis

Жыл бұрын

According to this, It did take roughly a month. Newts family die on June 26th and she escapes, Ripley and the rest arrived JULY 27th.

I love your channel! I've just ordered 'River of Pain', thanks to this video! Can't wait to receive it!

This has answered a big question in my mind with the events. Sometimes I wondered if the timeline took over a week or a day. I'm glad I found this video.

I always wanted to see the demise of Hadley Hope see what Newt seen b4 Ripley caught up with her. Love the channel this is close enough!!! You do awesome work!!!

Good job, Alien Theory. I enjoyed that.

This was so chilling to listen to! Great narration and incredible writing.. :)

"mostly..." nicely done, really enjoyed this. Aliens is my favourite movie of all time, so love all this lore.

TBH if it wasn't for the maniacal idiocy/sadism of Weyland-Yutani: humanity would have been well informed and able to fight off the xenomorphs before they could get really dangerous. I think Ridley Scott's biggest message throughout the Alien series is that callousness and hubris (especially in the form of mega-corporation CEOs seeking to be gods) will be the main thing that precipitates humanity's downfall.

@th3teacher705

9 ай бұрын

millions of drones made of acid-resistant plastic that seek out xenomorphs and blow up near them could eradicate any alien infestation, flying, swimming, or crawling drones, makes no difference. They may have thousands but we would make millions. Poetic justice.

You should probably really give a reference to the book “River of pain”because it gives a backstory what happened before and Aliens. There is so much action and you better understand the characters especially Newt

@CaptainRufus

2 жыл бұрын

Thats what he is summarizing here. No idea if the Fire and Stone series connects in. Its not really contradicted by the novel but the book doesn't make it reasonably likely either. On the upside it means Aliens in a universe without Prometheus or Covenant which I am totally good with.

This has been popping up in my suggested views for so long, so happy I finally watched this :)

I have never heard this tail of Hadley's Hope before. Thank you for sharing it.

Man, 35 years already. Where the heck has the time gone?!

Happy 35th Birthday Aliens! One of the best Sci-Fi movies in history!

@LukeLovesRose

2 жыл бұрын

The best IMO

@LADYJAYY19788

2 жыл бұрын

Da best

@nopcshere6097

2 жыл бұрын

Hard to believe it has been 35 years! I remember seeing it in Vancouver, BC with my brother (I was 15). It was his introduction to the 'Alien' franchise and he was SO impressed!

These well developed arcs really help in completing the storyline and a so well done it like watching a movie.Thanks.

Excellent as always!!