The Wrestling Degenerates 2

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Professional wrestling is a business that is full of egos, backstage politics and at times utter degeneracy. The world of meaty men slapping eachother exists to tell stories, get positive messages across. Moments like Daniel Bryan winning at WrestleMania, Punk in Chicago, Eddie Guerrerro beating Brock. But the thing is, those are characters and playing those characters are real people. And sometimes the people playing these wrestlers and characters we see on our TV’s true colours are shown. In today's video we’re going to go over 3 wrestlers who have gained distinct reputations within the wrestling world, for various reasons
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  • @TrackMaster914
    @TrackMaster914 Жыл бұрын

    The Velveteen Dream one hurt me the most because he was my favorite NXT wrestler before things fell off.

  • @juniordelgado9611

    @juniordelgado9611

    Жыл бұрын

    I felt that the dude was literally on the top all for it to crumble down

  • @Eloh_Dragons

    @Eloh_Dragons

    Жыл бұрын

    He’s just like a lot of the super talent & creative people in Hollywood. If y’all only knew what your favorite actor does behind closed doors.

  • @TrackMaster914

    @TrackMaster914

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Eloh_Dragons That is just too true

  • @samukelisiwemudau3553

    @samukelisiwemudau3553

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel your pain, then it all went wrong ohh damn his a what if wrestler he could have been nxt champion, intercontinental champion, US champion. What if

  • @Jordan_Asch

    @Jordan_Asch

    Жыл бұрын

    Him and Lio Rush were both my favorites when they popped up because they trained and started in my local wrestling promotion. I had high hopes for both, but that fell through QUICK

  • @nicolassmith7241
    @nicolassmith7241 Жыл бұрын

    How ironic was Aleister Black’s words after that match. “Enjoy infamy, Velveteen Dream.”

  • @TuberoseKisser
    @TuberoseKisser Жыл бұрын

    I think it's safe to say that Velveteen Dream was the most heartbreaking one, he was loved by everyone and he just threw it all away.

  • @1stKindChris

    @1stKindChris

    Жыл бұрын

    Howd he throw it away? If those allegations hadn't come out, he'd be on Raw or Smackdown right now. Maybe Mr. MiTB

  • @Goldenaustin99

    @Goldenaustin99

    Жыл бұрын

    he didn't thats the wrost part the allegations that got him fired were flase

  • @crazycountryboy8941

    @crazycountryboy8941

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Goldenaustin99 flase?

  • @crazycountryboy8941

    @crazycountryboy8941

    Жыл бұрын

    FACTS

  • @Goldenaustin99

    @Goldenaustin99

    Жыл бұрын

    @@crazycountryboy8941 yeah the person on their insta said they lied about them

  • @thebrownbaldy
    @thebrownbaldy Жыл бұрын

    You know you had potential when John Cena himself said he'd share the ring with you. Doggone shame how Dream dug his own grave.

  • @BedroomBully88

    @BedroomBully88

    Жыл бұрын

    His face reveal did him in, you see he’s just a guy not young Adonis

  • @crazyd4ve875

    @crazyd4ve875

    Ай бұрын

    @@BedroomBully88 hes talking about velveteen dream lol not the youtuber

  • @michaelsinger4638
    @michaelsinger4638 Жыл бұрын

    You also had Travis Banks. A guy who had a VERY questionable relationship with his 17 year old trainee (Millie McKenzie). And he harassed and stalked her continuously when she tried to end things.

  • @reesecat1823

    @reesecat1823

    Жыл бұрын

    @@getuliovargas620 right over here cops

  • @divbrown2752

    @divbrown2752

    Жыл бұрын

    Just to put every one right here the fact is that in Britain age of consent is 16 so technically she isn't an adult but is old enough to make those type of decisions on her own

  • @OliviaCLTFC

    @OliviaCLTFC

    Жыл бұрын

    @@getuliovargas620 you realize the fact that your country’s socially immoral laws allow adults to legally take a child bride 2 years sooner than ours is not a good thing, right?

  • @jamesfrost2032

    @jamesfrost2032

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the power dynamic is also a factor. Illegal? No. Creepy? YES.

  • @mercedestrb1250

    @mercedestrb1250

    Жыл бұрын

    @@getuliovargas620 officers… 😟😟

  • @Rand0mContnt
    @Rand0mContnt Жыл бұрын

    Velveteen Dream just makes me sad, he had it all to be a main event star for years to come, and threw it all away. What a damn shame

  • @tarhumdonorstoriesforthebored

    @tarhumdonorstoriesforthebored

    Жыл бұрын

    allegations came back, the insta dude lied apparently idk

  • @hhtptai
    @hhtptai Жыл бұрын

    You gotta talk about Tessa Blanchard next. Her downfall was truly something to behold.

  • @unrealxxx

    @unrealxxx

    Жыл бұрын

    What happened with her exactly

  • @alejandrofigueroa2431

    @alejandrofigueroa2431

    Жыл бұрын

    @Taiyah I agree.

  • @Kingbossdon

    @Kingbossdon

    Жыл бұрын

    I just met her

  • @wrestlingwithart

    @wrestlingwithart

    Жыл бұрын

    @@unrealxxx she supposedly spit in La Rosa Negra's face

  • @wrestlingwithart

    @wrestlingwithart

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kingbossdon I have met her several times at Warrior Wrestling shows and she was always super nice. She signed a painting I made of her and she even let me take a photo of her contact info on her phone for a future interview.

  • @ADGZone
    @ADGZone Жыл бұрын

    The Velveteen one still hurts. I really liked his work in WWE. At first I didn't like his character but then he grew on me... It's a real shame this happened

  • @cliffordjackson3

    @cliffordjackson3

    Жыл бұрын

    FACTS.

  • @Dtown1202

    @Dtown1202

    Жыл бұрын

    Text a Teen Dream

  • @juliandavis9711

    @juliandavis9711

    Жыл бұрын

    Weren’t those allegations proven false?

  • @DaylinThaGemini

    @DaylinThaGemini

    Жыл бұрын

    @@juliandavis9711 Yup

  • @ishall9956

    @ishall9956

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, that’s for any wrestler who has grown on me. It hurts…

  • @6DADADA
    @6DADADA Жыл бұрын

    I try to forget about Dream because it makes me so mad how he could've had it all and just ruined it.

  • @drawingbert5
    @drawingbert5 Жыл бұрын

    "Shoplifting Protein Powder" I spat my coffee on my phone 💀💀 I did not expect to hear that! 😂😂

  • @timmutohfan
    @timmutohfan Жыл бұрын

    Rance is very well connected in the Florida wrestling scene.

  • @HexleysCauldron
    @HexleysCauldron Жыл бұрын

    The whole letting Chasyn train minors seems like another case just waiting to happen. It also makes me side eye the parents a bit cause I get wanting to support your kids dream but straight up letting them train under a registered offender is….a choice.

  • @MattSinz

    @MattSinz

    Жыл бұрын

    Unless one of them has a fake ID I doubt it.

  • @DrewBeeVlogs

    @DrewBeeVlogs

    Жыл бұрын

    especially in Florida... where wrestling gyms and clubs are not hard to find....

  • @princesstamika

    @princesstamika

    Жыл бұрын

    i didn't know you liked wrestling.

  • @ak-jxrdy-7

    @ak-jxrdy-7

    Жыл бұрын

    It's just fucking stupid - on everyone's part - from him diddling minors, to the police letting him walk free, to the people rehiring him, to the people that know he's a registered offender and are still seeking to train under him (nasty pun not intended), to the parents allowing their minors anywhere near him. Or am I the idiot here?

  • @joehung1552

    @joehung1552

    Жыл бұрын

    Was he also involved with the disappearance of a woman Teddy Hart sent him?

  • @gfear24
    @gfear24 Жыл бұрын

    Paige/Saraya literally told Patrick Clark that his over-inflated ego would be his downfall in the business while he was on Tough Enough. She seen it coming a mile away.

  • @methembendlovu5516

    @methembendlovu5516

    Жыл бұрын

    Coke heads gotta look out for each other

  • @dasiareed2708

    @dasiareed2708

    Жыл бұрын

    @@methembendlovu5516 sounds like you are upset your favorite wrestler was fired

  • @methembendlovu5516

    @methembendlovu5516

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dasiareed2708 what gives you that impression

  • @ethanbell6762
    @ethanbell6762 Жыл бұрын

    I remember when I first watched ROH in around 2013 or so. Elgin was one of the wrestlers I loved the most. Anarchy's Son was a straight banger, and his presentation was cool. A shame that he went crazy

  • @Jevarohdail

    @Jevarohdail

    Жыл бұрын

    I loved Elgin too. One of the wrestlers i loved to watch and wished for big things for him. Was so confused about what happened to him

  • @jansmitowiczauthor78

    @jansmitowiczauthor78

    Жыл бұрын

    Haven't seen him in ROH but Raju lived his shit in NJPW. Z I'm rewatching G1 28 [2018] and he's had bangers against Evil and Hangman Page. It's a shame, could've been one of their top gaijins

  • @elijahhill6602

    @elijahhill6602

    7 ай бұрын

    Me too. One of the reasons I started watching ROH, him beating Adam Cole to win the title. It’s such a shame now.

  • @TophDaGreat
    @TophDaGreat Жыл бұрын

    The Chasyn Rance one is weird because there are a lot of wrestlers who still keep in touch with him, hang out with him, and will openly block fans who tweet why they hang out with him. An alarming amount of wrestlers in WWE and AEW too. Look it up. Its weird..

  • @silversoulken

    @silversoulken

    Жыл бұрын

    Not just WWE and AEW, a bunch of Japan guys and women too. EVERYONE still fucks with him, and idk if we don’t know something in particular or if they’re all just as weird…

  • @RoastedMarshmelon

    @RoastedMarshmelon

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not really clear what he did, aside from the one relationship with a 12 to 15-year-old. What was the lewd behavior exactly? I'm not trying to excuse him, but from this video alone, I would give him a chance at redemption. Maybe there are details that I don't know of.

  • @gfear24

    @gfear24

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RoastedMarshmelon lewd behavior usually means sex, but, they can't say it on here without getting demonitized. The simple fact that he's a registered sex offender because of that case should be a sign that Rance is a pedo. The fact "The Elite", especially Kenny, and their friends are still close friends, and Kenny has gotten him work with AEW on several occasions, isn't a good look for him. Then you see the stuff Kenny was doing with kids in Japan when he was with DDT, while he was a friend with Rance raises a TON of questions.

  • @tobysgamingworld1550

    @tobysgamingworld1550

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly and I think I know why. He’s also butt buddies with the fat clown on MLW. I used to know a guy like him. He had countless friends in the wrestling community because he was basically a master salesman and got the guys whatever they wanted whenever they were around. This was in the late 90’s and pills were the big deal. Even the non pill guys would hang with this guy because he always happened to have things they wanted, wrestling tapes from different territories, steroids, even clothes. The guy I’m talking about was a good friend of mine and aside from the drugs (which I got caught up in) he didn’t do the stuff this “Chasyn” guy was involved with. That idiot has even been linked to the missing girl Teddy Hart was involved with. He’s had three known arrests involving sex with minors. He’s a registered sex offender yet MSL and Kenny Omega love him.

  • @ak-jxrdy-7

    @ak-jxrdy-7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RoastedMarshmelon All sexual predators deserve no redemption or mercy, when they're caught it's almost never the first time. Even if it was, imagine if that was your child that he had sex with *(and battered).* I'd love to hear your reasoning for sympathising with a convicted sexual offender and abuser, _I'm sure you aren't one either..._

  • @renearguello6950
    @renearguello6950 Жыл бұрын

    funny how cornette went radio silent about michael elgin but if omega so much as sneezes the wrong way, he’ll yell about it from the mountain tops

  • @micahjohnsonboxing6409

    @micahjohnsonboxing6409

    Жыл бұрын

    Cornette is such a hypocrite I can't respect him.

  • @TimedRevolver

    @TimedRevolver

    Жыл бұрын

    @@micahjohnsonboxing6409 You can respect his knowledge of wrestling history while also finding him to be a shit person.

  • @shawnbaker3245

    @shawnbaker3245

    Жыл бұрын

    He probably isn't aware of Mike. Probably hasn't been made aware of it. Plus Kenny is an untrained tool.

  • @timmutohfan

    @timmutohfan

    Жыл бұрын

    you mean like how Kenny has supported Rance financially and how Meltzer never said a word about it?

  • @CharizardMaster69

    @CharizardMaster69

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven’t heard Cornette speak a word about Michael Elgin in recent memory and nor have I heard Mike Elgin speak about Cornette. That list bit can’t be said for Omega now can it?

  • @dirtiesttiger
    @dirtiesttiger Жыл бұрын

    Hannibal or "blood hunter" should be on a future episode

  • @NottyGurlStyle
    @NottyGurlStyle Жыл бұрын

    I wasn’t a fan of Velveteen Dream at all but it was surprising that he was like that.. these days you can’t put anything past anyone no matter how much one likes him…

  • @thefloridaman41
    @thefloridaman41 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for covering Elgin as I didn’t really know the story. Love the series keep it up

  • @azharmoosa4005
    @azharmoosa4005 Жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed how informative this series is keep it up. Other channels like to brush over these types of stories but i appreciate the fact that this channel actually explains the situations.

  • @yellowbonewrestling6479

    @yellowbonewrestling6479

    Жыл бұрын

    It's really not elgin was proven innocent some of the things he says are based on rumors n he instead he states them as facts Nonetheless it sucks what happened to these wrestlers

  • @barryparker4733
    @barryparker4733 Жыл бұрын

    The fact Rance was smiling on that rap sheet is disturbing

  • @cliffordjackson3

    @cliffordjackson3

    Жыл бұрын

    FACTS.

  • @andyrevo19
    @andyrevo19 Жыл бұрын

    Velveteen Dream was going to be the Prince of WWE but man. . . Talk about a disappointment

  • @debbstraw579
    @debbstraw579 Жыл бұрын

    Dream was one of the great homegrown talents of the golden era of NXT. Wish things went differently

  • @amandamichaels8693
    @amandamichaels8693 Жыл бұрын

    What Yoshiko Hirano did to Act Yasukawa should definitely be included on the next video. I couldn't believe what I was watching when it happened and have not been able to watch it again.

  • @silversoulken

    @silversoulken

    Жыл бұрын

    She’s been on a redemption tour tho, this is about ppl who are still blacklisted to this day

  • @y2jfan462
    @y2jfan462 Жыл бұрын

    This series is great. If there’s a 3rd one, I think you should talk about Jake Atlas and Hardbody Harrison.

  • @julianfoster88
    @julianfoster88 Жыл бұрын

    Man I remember on Saturday night we were in the comments talking about Michael Elgin. You work quick much respect to you

  • @kevinfightsbears
    @kevinfightsbears Жыл бұрын

    Velveteen Dream was incredibly over in nxt and now with triple h running things he would've been an enormous star but sadly he was his own worst enemy

  • @ShiftaelV2

    @ShiftaelV2

    Жыл бұрын

    nah, he's still burying folds.. old habits die hard... just ask Theory...

  • @_______________2001

    @_______________2001

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ShiftaelV2 Theory was a Vince guy, Dream was a Hunter guy

  • @bendythedankmachine5018

    @bendythedankmachine5018

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ShiftaelV2 theory fine

  • @wrestlingwithart
    @wrestlingwithart Жыл бұрын

    When Elgin posted his KZread video about going away, I really thought he was going to end his life so I contacted every wrestler I know to contact him. He recently started posting again and since he follows me on IG I finally had a talk with him and he said he was going to end his life but couldn't leave his kid

  • @cliffordjackson3

    @cliffordjackson3

    Жыл бұрын

    Dang I hope elgin gets the helps he needs because I knew he was going through some rough times after he left impact wrestling.

  • @Vikdeb25502
    @Vikdeb25502 Жыл бұрын

    Loving this series. More of this please.

  • @cliffordjackson3

    @cliffordjackson3

    Жыл бұрын

    FACTS loving this series too.

  • @PaintAndPlayWithJay
    @PaintAndPlayWithJay Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad the Velveteen Dream one happened when it did. Would've been worse if he was around for longer and got more power in the WWE and more beloved by fans before this happened.

  • @dirtiesttiger
    @dirtiesttiger Жыл бұрын

    New Jack and Lars Sullivan are two guys who deserve to be in one of these videos

  • @ayoubazargui5729

    @ayoubazargui5729

    Жыл бұрын

    Marty Scurll too

  • @WWEGaymer

    @WWEGaymer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ayoubazargui5729 was Marty Proven??? Just wondering?

  • @micahjohnsonboxing6409

    @micahjohnsonboxing6409

    Жыл бұрын

    New Jack was a work.

  • @quentelhill5074

    @quentelhill5074

    Жыл бұрын

    New jack is loved in the wrestling community

  • @danhausendanhausen4641

    @danhausendanhausen4641

    Жыл бұрын

    New Jack was a model citizen & amazing man

  • @VERDICTInsanity
    @VERDICTInsanity Жыл бұрын

    I love this idea as a monthly series, it’s awesome seeing how far your channel has come

  • @nicholaschristie8699
    @nicholaschristie8699 Жыл бұрын

    I still vote for New Jack, since he tried to legitimately KILL two of his opponents in the ring before.

  • @micahjohnsonboxing6409

    @micahjohnsonboxing6409

    Жыл бұрын

    New Jack was more of a work than people realize.

  • @razieltalos

    @razieltalos

    Жыл бұрын

    Grimes couldve killed New Jack and left him with serious permanent damage, Grimes got what he had coming

  • @nicholaschristie8699

    @nicholaschristie8699

    Жыл бұрын

    @@razieltalos Dude, New Jack pulled him off the scaffold. So, he did that to himself in my opinion. Plus, how can you explain him STABBING someone in the ring?! KLet alone excuse that!?

  • @bluarcher4424

    @bluarcher4424

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nicholaschristie8699 the first stabbing was because the guy asked Jack to cut him and Jack cut to deep .... the second was because his opponent was stiffing him and legit hurt Jack in the ring and he fought back

  • @nicholaschristie8699

    @nicholaschristie8699

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bluarcher4424 So, because someone was punching him a wittle too hward, that gives him the right to commit murder?!

  • @jolemays3218
    @jolemays3218 Жыл бұрын

    Patrick Clark had all the potential to be a mega star but blew it all away

  • @missmoanypants
    @missmoanypants Жыл бұрын

    I remember Chasyn on season 3 of Tool Academy. He had been bragging about being a wrestler, and that he was so good and got so many girls because of it but he walked off the show because another contestant, a woman there with her gf, beat him in shoot wrestling. He got so butt hurt over it.

  • @WickedCool23

    @WickedCool23

    Жыл бұрын

    I remember that episode, but I had no idea that was the same guy. It all makes sense now

  • @chillbacca6092
    @chillbacca6092 Жыл бұрын

    Bro good job because We needed this

  • @jesuszamora6949
    @jesuszamora6949 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine all the shit Elgin got into, and it's shoplifting that ends him. 🤣

  • @Jm-ki4su
    @Jm-ki4su Жыл бұрын

    yikes, that chasyn segment makes my skin crawl...

  • @hatednyc
    @hatednyc Жыл бұрын

    Dude, this series is AWESOME. Once, again, well done!

  • @christophergerics
    @christophergerics Жыл бұрын

    I worked with Elgin, and it's sad. He was a real nice guy in the back around 2008 but I honestly think the large amount of head injuries that have gone undiagnosed plus untreated mental health caused his downfall.

  • @cosmicwarriors206

    @cosmicwarriors206

    Жыл бұрын

    Years ago on the kevin steen show he was bragging about pissing on a girl and making her cry and laughing about it. It seems he was always like that

  • @egpmh2891

    @egpmh2891

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel sad for his wife MsChief more though and his kids, that they had to learn he did this stuff

  • @crazycountryboy8941

    @crazycountryboy8941

    Жыл бұрын

    @@egpmh2891 he likes does that to them too

  • @wrestlingwithart

    @wrestlingwithart

    Жыл бұрын

    When he posted his KZread video about going away, I really thought he was going to end his life so I contacted every wrestler I know to contact him. He recently started posting again and since he follows me on IG I finally had a talk with him and he said he was going to end his life but couldn't leave his kid.

  • @egpmh2891

    @egpmh2891

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wrestlingwithart awww that sucks, yes he did a bad thing but he did lose his career that's when people need to him be on it I am glad he stayed his kid will need him

  • @OliviaCLTFC
    @OliviaCLTFC Жыл бұрын

    david starr and jordan devlin feel like they belong in the same episode

  • @shawnlusby1538

    @shawnlusby1538

    Жыл бұрын

    Jordan Devlin is now JD McDonagh on NXT and is still getting pushed in the NXT title scene

  • @claymathewselevator8121

    @claymathewselevator8121

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shawnlusby1538 JD McDontGoogleMe- Kevin Owens

  • @ry4x223
    @ry4x223 Жыл бұрын

    I’m just waiting for Marty Scurll. Similar to dream he had an insane amount of potential as a younger star, but had to go and ruin it all with dumb choices.

  • @robdurfee6861

    @robdurfee6861

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been waiting for Marty to pop up on here too

  • @sangan3202
    @sangan3202 Жыл бұрын

    holy shit the Chasyn thing is just nuts, how the fuck are people still fine with him being anywhere near minors

  • @aliciasimmons8473
    @aliciasimmons8473 Жыл бұрын

    Yes so glad this video is out! Please keep them coming very interesting

  • @DraycoVideo
    @DraycoVideo Жыл бұрын

    I would say new jack, but like, everything about his brand of fuckernuts is well documented. That said, I would like to see one on Enzo Amore. I never really understood the whole situation with him, how much was accusation and how much actually happened, and I bet I'm not alone.

  • @unchartedimensions4251
    @unchartedimensions4251 Жыл бұрын

    We need a part 3‼️

  • @MistarZtv
    @MistarZtv Жыл бұрын

    wow i didnt thought i'd get part two so fast after the last video.

  • @jonnymaldonado5974
    @jonnymaldonado5974 Жыл бұрын

    I'm still mad at velveteen dream for going out the way he did. what a way to throw your future out the window.

  • @ChristienBizzle
    @ChristienBizzle Жыл бұрын

    Ideas for a part 3: Alberto Del Rio Ryback Sunny Lars Sullivan

  • @claymathewselevator8121

    @claymathewselevator8121

    Жыл бұрын

    Buck Zumhofe

  • @MrRjh63

    @MrRjh63

    Жыл бұрын

    Why Ryback? other than whining about the wwe and doing asmr eating shit i havent heard of him doing anything.

  • @JustinTyme116
    @JustinTyme116 Жыл бұрын

    Buck Zumhofe is one you could probably talk about. You could also do this wrestler named James “Jim” Brown. He wrestled under the names James Wallace & “Flawless” Jay Phoenix. Long story short, let’s just say he had some flaws…

  • @shawnlusby1538

    @shawnlusby1538

    Жыл бұрын

    Didn't "Rock and Roll" Buck Zumhofe have an ongoing sexual relationship with his own daughter? Also, you can include Marty Jannety in there too since he wanted to have a sexual relationship with his daughter once he found that she wasn't actually his and was adopted

  • @elijahloveell8809

    @elijahloveell8809

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shawnlusby1538 Yep that’s Buck. Didn’t know that about Jannety , pretty disgusting stuff

  • @shawnlusby1538

    @shawnlusby1538

    Жыл бұрын

    @@elijahloveell8809 father knows best. 🤮

  • @nickhughes8179

    @nickhughes8179

    Жыл бұрын

    Grizzly Smith is another degenerate, and one who had plenty of southern cops in his pocket as he'd book and pay them as security in exchange for favors.

  • @mjolden
    @mjolden Жыл бұрын

    I went to high school with Patrick, we were a grade apart. He was someone I considered a friend-- that ended up going sideways, but I never suspected him to be that kind of guy.

  • @klawstecno2083
    @klawstecno2083 Жыл бұрын

    Isn't Chasyn the guy who send a few wrestling rings for AEW because he is a friend of Kenny Omega?

  • @timmutohfan

    @timmutohfan

    Жыл бұрын

    yep

  • @turboturkey

    @turboturkey

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timmutohfan yep but omega is the greatest wrestler in the world right? lol chasyn sounds and looks like a total creep

  • @higler.

    @higler.

    Жыл бұрын

    It was a CEOxNJPW event. Kenny is from Canada and lived in Japan at the time I doubt he ever met Chasyn or knew much about him. Chasyn is just one of the "go to" guys for ring rentals in Florida even though he's a child rapist. Wrestling is just scummy and gross.

  • @BahstX
    @BahstX Жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised you didn't mention the physical abuse allegations by Elgins current girlfriend, the restraining order byhis ex wife, MsCheif and his disappearance and attempted suicide.

  • @digbeak2275
    @digbeak2275 Жыл бұрын

    Drake wuertz, del rio, david starr, tessa, jaxson ryker, ryback, amd possibly cm punk but theres a lot more especially 80s to 90s

  • @JoseJoseC626
    @JoseJoseC626 Жыл бұрын

    The sign I knew Elgin was in trouble. Winning the Never Openweight Championship only to lose it a few days later.

  • @AuzzieDonkey
    @AuzzieDonkey Жыл бұрын

    Killer series thus far keep it up man.

  • @SirRobert69
    @SirRobert69 Жыл бұрын

    You should do a video on Darby allins allegations

  • @TooTrueHeart
    @TooTrueHeart Жыл бұрын

    You should definitely talk about Marty Scurll next. I see people say to bring him back to promotions for too often considering what he did.

  • @R3QV13m

    @R3QV13m

    Жыл бұрын

    might as well ad david starr to the list.

  • @TooTrueHeart

    @TooTrueHeart

    Жыл бұрын

    @@R3QV13m Marty Scurll, David Starr, Jack Gallagher, Jimmy Havoc etc

  • @TooTrueHeart

    @TooTrueHeart

    Жыл бұрын

    @sebastous red revenge took advantage of a 16 year old girl at a party when he was 28

  • @Jesusblowsme666

    @Jesusblowsme666

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TooTrueHeart makes me glad that i tuned out of wrestling for the longest time. Seeing a bunch of them end up becoming terrible human beings leaves me with a sense of shame for even liking them in the first place.

  • @TooTrueHeart

    @TooTrueHeart

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Jesusblowsme666 By no means are you a bad person for liking them, nor does it connect you to what they did. They went into wrestling and chose to do what they did. That's on them and now they're paying for it.

  • @Phrankster163
    @Phrankster163 Жыл бұрын

    If you´re doing more of these, you should do ones on Abdullah the Butcher (for giving at least one other wrestler Hepatitis C on purpose and ruining his life), Bruiser Bedlam (for being a hardcore gang member that actually murdered people) and Rob Black from XPW (for trying to have one of his own wrestlers killed, after he left his company, along with many other horrible deeds). Compared to the wrestlers from the old days, today´s wrestlers are angels in comparison.

  • @TimTE01

    @TimTE01

    Жыл бұрын

    The Abdullah thing was never proven AFAIK.

  • @claymathewselevator8121

    @claymathewselevator8121

    Жыл бұрын

    Whenever I hear Abdullah The Butcher I think of Jackass Bad Grandpa when Johnny Knoxville says he loved Abdullah The Butcher after doing an atomic elbow drop

  • @happyChappy96621

    @happyChappy96621

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TimTE01 well he was found liable in a civil suit and was ordered to pay that other POS wrestler Hannibal money.

  • @NameThatSong1

    @NameThatSong1

    Жыл бұрын

    Great suggestions! 🤟

  • @johnathanrush4666
    @johnathanrush4666 Жыл бұрын

    The Speaking Out gang should be next. Starr, Scurll, and the like. Could get a whole episode just from June 2020 lol

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 Жыл бұрын

    Even John Cena praised Velveteen Dream, you know you’re something special when John Cena praises you and even wanted to have a future Wrestlemania match. That just sucks looking back now.

  • @shawnlusby1538
    @shawnlusby1538 Жыл бұрын

    I recommend everybody's favorite chinless wonder for an episode on here. It's a James Ellsworth that I'm referring to

  • @softneverwet
    @softneverwet Жыл бұрын

    tessa blanchard,austin aries and marty scurll should be the next episode

  • @zlinedavid
    @zlinedavid Жыл бұрын

    Velveteen Dream would have been a star if he’d have kept the Velveteen Peen put away.

  • @supermario9520
    @supermario9520 Жыл бұрын

    The holy algorythm brought me to this and Part 1, nice work. You got yourself 2 likes and a new sub, kind Sir. Will check your other videos out. Keep up the good work.

  • @rubenalvarez6830
    @rubenalvarez6830 Жыл бұрын

    Great Video. I think you should talk about New Jack!!

  • @PG13SZN
    @PG13SZN Жыл бұрын

    Bruh I watched the first one right before I slept and now I wake up and see this 😂

  • @danzena4059
    @danzena4059 Жыл бұрын

    That last dude......WHAT THE HECK!?!? How are people okay with that? He must be very well connected or something because that's just weird how he's getting away with that and people know!!

  • @higler.

    @higler.

    Жыл бұрын

    the rumor is he is the drug connect for many wrestlers

  • @gringo420
    @gringo420 Жыл бұрын

    love this series!!!

  • @tysean0816
    @tysean0816 Жыл бұрын

    Dream broke my heart, talk about talent gone to waste.

  • @beaston
    @beaston Жыл бұрын

    Fabulous Moolah. Jake Roberts' dad. Buzz Sawyer.

  • @stevencisneros9306
    @stevencisneros9306 Жыл бұрын

    Don’t forget to include Nia Jax, Nash Carter/Zachery Wentz, and even Nick Gage, I guess

  • @k3zdoggydawg
    @k3zdoggydawg Жыл бұрын

    PART 3 PLEASE, I love it when the wrestlers are so sussy

  • @arthurflegenheimer7541
    @arthurflegenheimer7541 Жыл бұрын

    Disturbing stuff about team vision dojo. That a convicted sex offender would be allowed to train a 16 year old girl. Not many comments about that. Very disappointing all around.

  • @yurinoworry
    @yurinoworry Жыл бұрын

    Chasyn writes those statements himself and pretends that it’s someone on his “team”. It’s the worst kept secret in the business. He also had a signed form bc his rich connected wine mommy got the judge to give him the special privilege of allowing him to work with children. I actually met the guy trying to find somewhere to train without knowing his story. He’s up front about it happening, but seems to me that he diminishes the severity of his actions IMO. If he just didn’t work with minors. I really wouldn’t care that much although I think he’s gross. If he’s training adults that’s fine. The fact he’s still training MINORS is unacceptable to me.

  • @yurinoworry

    @yurinoworry

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh and then by me just saying that I didn’t think it was appropriate for him to work with minors and that I found it creepy to do so, and not attacking him personally or calling him any untrue names, he told me I was weak, oh dear, the man who can’t control his inhibitions and blames the mother of the preteen he drunkenly SA’d for getting the cops involved as if that’s not what any good parent should do thinks I’m weak. Good thing I’ve moved out of the state and can easily find somewhere less morally shaky to train.

  • @Prowres4life
    @Prowres4life Жыл бұрын

    For the next video could you talk about Travis Banks and his abuse towards Mille McKenzie. I find it sickening that he's still wrestling in small tier indie promotions in Mexico, just like Chasyn Rance! P.S. Love your content big fan!

  • @michaelsinger4638

    @michaelsinger4638

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah that was disturbing.

  • @jakehowell3069

    @jakehowell3069

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank god somebody else has called out Rance 🤢🤢 I mentioned this yesterday I find it weird KZreadrs seem to ignore all he does just because he has a friendship with omega.

  • @Prowres4life

    @Prowres4life

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jakehowell3069 Yea that's pretty insane they don't bring him up often. Seriously, wrestling promoters should do thorough background checks of who they're booking, I just found out he wrestled matches in NJPW (probably thanks to Omega, emphasis on probably), WCPW/Defiant wrestling, and GCW.

  • @robdurfee6861

    @robdurfee6861

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Prowres4life Brian Last on Cornettes podcast always alludes to if the public knew certain things about Omega he would pretty much be done but Last never says what those things are, it always makes me wonder if it has something to do with Rance every time he brings it up

  • @stephano1019

    @stephano1019

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robdurfee6861 Wonder why Brain never says it?

  • @timmutohfan
    @timmutohfan Жыл бұрын

    People asking for New Jack and Grizzly Smith, there are entire episodes of DotR on them..

  • @sizablekoala6879
    @sizablekoala6879 Жыл бұрын

    The last one is the most important one as it's an ongoing situation and needs to be pointed out.

  • @lilkingpanda1760
    @lilkingpanda1760 Жыл бұрын

    LESSSGOOOOOO PT2!!!!

  • @FullmetalNinja25
    @FullmetalNinja25 Жыл бұрын

    The Velveteen Dream one still pisses me off he was one of my favorites, he had all the tools to be a top guy in WWE and he pissed it all away.

  • @RazorChampion99
    @RazorChampion99 Жыл бұрын

    If I may play devil's advocate here for a second: There is a grey area of Speaking Out. I'm not condoning any disgusting action but there are some people out there who just want to see people's lives and careers go up in flames. There have been multiple ALLEGED accusations against many wrestlers including Jordan Devlin, Jimmy Havoc, Wolfgang, Darby Allin, Kongo Kong, Scotty Davis, Will Ospreay and others and, apart from Havoc as he retired, they've all resumed their wrestling careers and are still wrestling today in some capacity. While some were justified and allegations have proven to be true through admittion such as the cases with Paul Robinson and Travis Banks, a lot of them were just accused and then the wrestler threatened legal action, then they were either suspended or taken off TV or simply nothing happened and the kept on going with their career. All I'm saying is that while many wrestlers have quite rightly been exposed and have admitted their actions, there are many allegations that have little evidence or simply none at all to back it up and hence we don't know the full extent of them, if they happened at all. Maybe you can discuss this in your next Degenerates video.

  • @coreyhendricks9490
    @coreyhendricks9490 Жыл бұрын

    Cool video Tom, keep doing these 💯

  • @metal_dadd1702
    @metal_dadd1702 Жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised that you didn't bring up the Rance and Teddy Hart connection. You should look into that one. Unfortunately i don't remember the details to well, but I know it was on youtube

  • @MissSimone02
    @MissSimone02 Жыл бұрын

    You know what, I can forgive someone who learned from their mistakes but when that mistake is being a sexual predator against CHILDREN and then you barely even get punished for it? Nah dude.

  • @RichardB-sz4jx
    @RichardB-sz4jx Жыл бұрын

    Great Stuff Mr T.

  • @bigjonstx
    @bigjonstx Жыл бұрын

    Everyone seems to forget Rob Feinstein lost ROH because he got busted in a local tv sting where he was coming to meet a minor boy. He still runs RF Video. 🤦‍♂️

  • @missumenimsatanass
    @missumenimsatanass Жыл бұрын

    Please do a video on Matt "Doink" Bourne. He deserves alot more recognition. Very good technical wrestler.

  • @vivaladanny316
    @vivaladanny316 Жыл бұрын

    How does a sex offender work with minors when the law states you cant when on the registry that is so sick

  • @stevenmillan9220
    @stevenmillan9220 Жыл бұрын

    Part 3 really needs to cover New Jack's activities,otherwise isn't Chasyn Rance's wrestling school connected to I Believe In Wrestling,an indie wrestling fed that is managed by ex-MLW Radio flagship show co-host MSL(alias Mr. Jared St. Laurent),a close buddy of MLW's Court Bauer.

  • @EmberAvenger
    @EmberAvenger Жыл бұрын

    David Starr, Marty Jannetty, Jimmy Havoc

  • @claymathewselevator8121

    @claymathewselevator8121

    Жыл бұрын

    Buck Zumhofe

  • @joshuahansell9194
    @joshuahansell9194 Жыл бұрын

    So turns out that during the house show run before he became the velveteen dream his gimmick was that he was a Donald trump supporter

  • @shawnmichaels568
    @shawnmichaels568 Жыл бұрын

    This is going to be interesting.

  • @DoNotPassGO
    @DoNotPassGO Жыл бұрын

    Could we get an episode on Mike Quackenbush?

  • @monstermikeheinrichs

    @monstermikeheinrichs

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised that I had to scroll so long to see his name. Quackenbush definitely needs to be in a future video. You could probably make an hour long video on people whose careers were ended or altered by the Speaking Out movement.

  • @daasbuffy
    @daasbuffy Жыл бұрын

    Have you considered doing an episode on less contemporary wrestlers, such as; Buddy Lee, Grizzly Smith, Fabulous Moolah and Terry Gavin.

  • @drillosophy1012

    @drillosophy1012

    Жыл бұрын

    If he starts doing old wrestlers, he’ll have material for decades. I don’t want to hear another word about Grizzly Smith. That Dark Side episode made me nauseous. Dude deserves a Disney pass straight to Hell with no blackout dates.

  • @asurlybarber3620
    @asurlybarber3620 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe you could divide future installments of this into specific degeneracy: Sex pests Violent psychopaths Bank-addicted drug robbers Screwers of the business Ryback

  • @ANDCFC95
    @ANDCFC95 Жыл бұрын

    Idea for part 3. Dustin McPhetridge (if you know, you know)

  • @toranpudonarudo4459
    @toranpudonarudo4459 Жыл бұрын

    Kenny omega stills works w/ chasyn. Omega has used a ring chasyn owns for shows on aew. Omega brings chasyn as a backstage guest to shows as well. The bucks are lifelong friends of Joey ryan. Kip sabien and his wife knew about the ryan rumours while the were living w/ him & did nothing.

  • @atamertkirtay4301

    @atamertkirtay4301

    Жыл бұрын

    jesus fucking christ. this is absolutely horrible

  • @Ted_Bell

    @Ted_Bell

    Жыл бұрын

    Kenny Ped-Omega

  • @jordanmaessen9655

    @jordanmaessen9655

    Жыл бұрын

    The Bucks were NEVER lifelong friends with Joey fucking Ryan LMFAOOOOO. they also dropped his ass the moment allegations came out for him. Sabian and Ford also didn't know about it but also dropped him the moment all of that came out.

  • @timmutohfan

    @timmutohfan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jordanmaessen9655 didn't they try to get him hired at AEW?

  • @jordanmaessen9655

    @jordanmaessen9655

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timmutohfan not really. the only time he was ever in AEW was All In. they never tried to bring him in again specifically and he was never on Dark either.

  • @NobleCaboose117
    @NobleCaboose117 Жыл бұрын

    I wanted to train at real vision in Orlando cause it’s the best for my price range and it’s the closest but I don’t wanna work with that creep ever

  • @chrisberoiza4503
    @chrisberoiza4503 Жыл бұрын

    nice video, yo can make the next one about the former owner of rf video and roh

  • @CoryTheRaven
    @CoryTheRaven Жыл бұрын

    It's almost like Rance being arrested, convicted, and going through all those steps somehow exonerated him in a way that it all still hanging over Joey Ryan or Velveteen Dream hasn't. Not saying I approve, but it's interesting.

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