Can I suggest top 5 zero-vote finalists? While some no-vote finalists are complete goats, others were really good players but it was just that the winner was a lot better.

@Peridiam

6 жыл бұрын

Great idea! I think I'll look to making this once HHH wraps up.

@lightningmonkey706

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad you like it :)

@BrettMKW

6 жыл бұрын

Stephen Dawn Spencer Sugar Becky (extremely underrated) would be my list in random order, honorable mentions to Sash Tai and Hannah. Worst 0 vote goats would have to be Russell Natalie Ken and Gervase. Although I personally think Will is more pathetic than all of these.

@raane48

6 жыл бұрын

Sugar in top 3 at least

@chargestone96

5 жыл бұрын

stephen obviously wins that im also all for becky appreciation since ftc focused solely on yul and the ozzy and she was a lot stronger then people gave her credit for

Redemption Island happened to be my first season of survivor as I didn't know which one to start with and the name and concept sounded intriguing. I followed that up with One World thinking it couldn't be as one-sided as the last one. Fml. Then came Cagayan and my hope was restored in Survivor.

@dianeross4361

4 жыл бұрын

RI as your first ever Survivor season? Tragic. So glad you toughed it and stuck with it.

LOVED Shii Ann's legendary "stupid people" confessional sealing the deal at the end

@tdarkhorse4

Күн бұрын

all stars when she won immunity at 7, but another pagonging nonetheless.

foa foa 4, pagonging a tribe of 8.. that needed special mention.

@pablomercado9147

4 жыл бұрын

Same the Aitu 4 of CI

@DizzyedUpGirl

4 жыл бұрын

FOA FOA should have 100% gotten Pagonged. I tip my hat to Foa Foa 4 for getting out of that.

@BrettMKW

4 жыл бұрын

@@DizzyedUpGirl Galu messed it up by voting out Erik when they were up 8 to 4, meaning they could no longer employ a split vote strategy in case someone had an idol (like Russell the very next episode.) If they just keep Erik for another tribal and vote out Jaison, they could then vote him out next episode and still be up 7-3.

@brandismith3911

4 жыл бұрын

That’s a pagonging we actually like watching though. Every week watching that season it was so fun watching Russel and Foa Foa seemingly digging themselves up from the bottom and watching the ego and entitlement of the other tribe slowly die each week was great.

@anrick1362

3 жыл бұрын

This video is about the worst though. People actually liked seeing Galu get picked off. 4 beating 8 is insane.

"woah, cool flying fish"

Pagonging’s are almost never fun. South Pacific was my first season but rewatching it was almost painful after Cochran flipped. You’re just sitting there begging for Ozzy to win somehow, and it was basically laid out for him and he still failed.

@drewcoyle5223

6 жыл бұрын

NZ Man123 that was my first season too! I was rooting for Savaii and watching them all leave 1 by 1 was depressing.

@NZMan123

6 жыл бұрын

12 year old me was just sitting there begging for something to change it.

@drewcoyle5223

6 жыл бұрын

NZ Man123 I was like 10 I was used to Total Drama which always had a good ending and then this ends in an Upolu final 6

@NZMan123

6 жыл бұрын

Same for me, which naturally led to me believing that Ozzy would win everything and be the ultimate good guy hero avenger. Boy was I wrong

@4Tom4lepus4

6 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile, I was rooting for Queen Sophie :D

10:34 "This factor right here:" [shot of Boston Rob]

Your narration is fucking on point! Subscribed!

@Peridiam

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

The worst thing to happen to the men in One World was Colton being removed from the game. He was an extremely unlikable tyrant, but he was the only one that could actually get the men to be organized. Had he stayed, Christina would have definitely been the next one to go pre-merge, and the guys would've been up 7-5 going into the merge.

@0pacbig32

6 жыл бұрын

It's colton

@topaz2411

6 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Colton made it clear in one of his confessionals that he wanted to side with the girls post-merge. It wouldn't have made a difference.

@Loogaroo1

6 жыл бұрын

At the very least, Colton would have either been voted out along the way or gotten absolutely disemboweled by the jury if he somehow reached the end. That would have at least given us a satisfying moment of karma for the guy who basically escaped justice twice.

@stevescoffee8325

6 жыл бұрын

Hatzmania the karma was so satisfying for me, so I was okay with it.

@mrregularword4329

6 жыл бұрын

Remember it was Colton he was a bully in one world and bvw who always got his way maybe it was for the better he went

Dude you really deserve more subscribers. Some of the best Survivor videos we have seen in a long time now.

Pagong? More like... *PaGONE!!!!* I'll see myself out....

I don't mind pagongings, just as long as the underdogs are interesting or the entire episode leading up to the elimination is good. HvV which is one of, if not the best season of Survivor was essentially a pagonging (except for Danielle getting eliminated) and this current seasons pagonging hasn't been too bad as Joe and Mike are both entertaining underdogs and queen Lauren is entertaining as well.

@TheMurrmursonbottle

5 жыл бұрын

You’re right about that. HvV is one of the best seasons but the cast - especially the villains - was spectacular. It’s the same in Panama to a lesser extent. I love the interactions between Aras, Shane, Daniele, Cirie, and Courtney, it’s just a shame that the underdogs sucked

@loynco9299

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheMurrmursonbottle honestly i wanted La Mina to be pagonged jaja. One of few times that pagongings were funnker

@justinpeterson215

5 жыл бұрын

Russell, Parvati, Rob (for the rivalry with Russell), and the absolute stupidity of the Hero Tribe + Tyson made HvV soooooo entertaining!

@javiernino-sears7145

4 жыл бұрын

Vanuatu is one season that had a botched pagonging, in which the women systematically eliminated the men until only one man remained. he then won the game :/ If you want to find a sleeper gem of an old school season, check our survivor Vanuatu. Incredible editing and storyline.

I wish I discovered this channel earlier. It's top quality content and now I'm going to binge watch them all! You deserve WAY more subscribers my man! Great work!

Keep up the great work! And the Shi Ann Part at the end was great 👍🏼

You can add Malolo tribe from Ghost Island now

@cdawg4021

2 жыл бұрын

They technically only got Unlonged not pagonged.

Yo keep up the awesome work. We need more innovative Survivor videos like this!

Samoa was A Pagonging, but I have to say, it was a thrilling one. It was in my opinion the best earlier season of survivor. The Foa Foa 4 Going in with Galu at 8 and not a SINGLE Galu survives was just amazing.

@HeelBJC

Жыл бұрын

Calling Somoa an earlier season is technically true as it's in the first half of the show, but I would argue it was the first season of the 3rd era of Survivor that lasted until Cagayan or SJDS.

I actually like pagongings, I would like to see a season without tribe swaps. I think that comes from enjoying the team portion of the game more than other viewers might.

It's simple, I see a Peridiam video, I click.

Maybe because I love Boston Robb, I really liked Survivor Redemption Island. Plus the pagoned tribe had it coming for throwing a challenge just to get Russell out. I though the worst case was the one Stephanie came from where the tribe lost so much it was down to 1 person left at the merge. Not technically a pagong, but man that tribe was terrible.

How did I just now find your channel?! You are a great narrator and I really liked watching this video! Subscribed

Everytime I see a new video posted by you, I immediately click on it and watch... even if I'm at school !!

This video was great! keep up the good work! The one edit I'd make is add Heroes VS Villains to this list. Three out of five heroes left in a row, then one villain, followed by the last two heroes. Again, loved the video. Great job!

@Peridiam

6 жыл бұрын

Slickwillie FourZeros I considered HvV butttt there are at least 5 others worthy of being mentioned before it! Plus Danellie going does kinda interrupt the flow, and I think Candice leaving was less a pagonging and more shifting numbers. I think.

I really love your channel! keep it up!

@Peridiam

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I really liked season 22 because of how much I love Boston rob. I wasn’t watching that season for the underdogs, I was watching my fave player perfectly mind control a group of people

@tengurius3464

4 жыл бұрын

I know right? That's the main reason I loved that season, He worked his magic from day one!

@NYChica23

4 жыл бұрын

That's also the main reason I watched that season all the way

@jaym7225

3 жыл бұрын

Jeff called them out the first time Zapatera went to tribal council. I forgot exactly what he said, but the essence was "you guys are effed" I don't recall every season, but has a tribe imploded as badly as Zapatera did? Julie was right in being unsure if throwing a challenge was the right long term play. I think Zapatera only won a single challenge after Day 9 BR picked them off one by one and blindsided one of his own twice in the process.

What is worst is RAROTONGING. RAROTONGING is like you are in numbers advantage but you are desimated by the smaller ally. See Survivor Cook Islands, especially the Aitu 4

Love your vids❤🔝

I'm glad you put Exile Island on this list. I actually really liked the La Mina alliance (post merge), even though they didn't stand a chance. Watching them get picked off one by one was so frustrating. They just could not find any cracks, and no one was willing to budge. However, it was kind of beautiful, in a pitiful way, how none of the La Mina alliance turned on each other even as their numbers dwindelled.

A Pogoning is definitely about to happen on ghost island

@ES1Baller

5 жыл бұрын

Didn’t even watch that boring season

Love your vids!

@Peridiam

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Top Five Philip Shepard moments

One World was my favorite Pagonging. I didn't like any of the men. I thought they were idiots for kowtowing to Colton and giving up immunity just to empower his racism. And I loved Kim, Chelsea, and Sabrina. They were the most likeable characters all season, and how wonderful that they got to the end together. Every episode of them mentally outplaying the men (and Alicia) was a treat.

Great video. I was thinking that... Ooh! Flying fish!

I thought it would be the season where one tribe didn't make it to the merge. Instead the last member just got absorbed into the tribe that won almost every time (I think they lost once but that could have been an episode where both tribes lost a member).

It's strange to think the original Pagonging wouldn't have happened without Kelly's immunity run.

@anthonymort5202

Жыл бұрын

It still would have been a pagonging just not a pure pagonging

I actually liked One World. It's one of my favorite seasons. I know that it's universally hated, but after RI and SP both having the Redemption Island twist, and only like 4-5 people getting any air time for the whole show, One World was a breath of fresh air for me. No RI twist and you got to know almost everybody except for Mike and Leif.

@theinanman

5 жыл бұрын

Poor Leif.

@jorgeraimondososa2438

4 жыл бұрын

One World is not great. But it's okay. And Kim's game was flawless.

Hey Peridiam, please do a future video on the top 10 alliance, and duos as you did in Big Brother US, and also do so for Canadian Big Brother as well please. Just something in the future. Please make this happen

One World was destroyed by Pagonging and.... by Colton leaving! The pre-merge episodes were super entertaining, Colton was probably a horrible human being but a great TV character, very funny as a villain, and actually had some real power over his tribe. Once he left, nothing else happened in the entire season.

I just get addicted to survivor so your videos help me a lot. im from the Philippines

Hello Peridiam; I really enjoy watching/listening to your analysis. I am an OG Survivor fan, I started from season 1. You forgot to mention the Australian outback pagonging. Incase you don't remember, in Survivor season 2, @ the final 11, they were still two tribes, and the numbers were split 5 to 6. I forgot the tribe names though :(. One of the casts, who was in the tribe of 6, Michael Scoopin fell in fire and was medically evacuated. Because of that the corresponding immunity challenge did not take place, therefore the tribes went into the merge 5 to 5. They went to tribal council, and tribal lines were still strong. The vote was 5 to 5 which by the way, was the first ever tie vote on survivor. They went on a revote. They revoted, it was still a tie except that the people whom the votes were cast on were not allowed to vote this time, so it was effectively 4 to 4. Then the tie breaker happened, which was that whoever received most votes in a previous tribal council would go home. This was when jeff Varner was voted out. Bear in mind that he was from the tribe that had 6. From there a pagonging began. I guess they were really just unlucky. Sorry. I really love to tell that story. As an OG fan you realise how far this series has come. I really enjoy watching your videos peridiam, long may it continue.

@tjslam26

5 жыл бұрын

Kucha tribe had Mike Skupin. Other tribe wass Ogakor. It was not a Pagong. Jerri and Amber were voted off before Final 5. Elisabeth and Rodger from Kucha outlasted them.

dude, i just saw an idea of a top 5 and I totally buy it the idea of "Top 5 best FTC performances by runners-up"

Usually tho, the eventual winner of the season is someone that wanted it to be a pagong. Rich, Tina, Brian, Amber, Tom, Aras, Yul, Todd, Parvati, JT, Natalie White, Boston Rob, Sophie, Mike Holloway, Wendell, Chris Underwood

Pagoning's do make the show blah and predictable BUT if a tribe can get into that position where they have the trust and the numbers to stick together and knock the opposition out, that really is the best strategy from a player's point of view. I'm so glad I found your channel, I love Survivor and haven't found many reviewers for this show. Can't wait to see more of your videos :)

Shii Ann moment reminded me - list of best clutch immunity wins could be cool!

Awesome video as always! Maybe a most underrated players list? Also, what is your opinion on Earl from Fiji?

@Peridiam

6 жыл бұрын

I like Earl a lot. Probably one of the nicest winners. What's your opinion?

@landofsurvivor

6 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, he's one of the most underrated Survivor castaways of all time. He played the social game absolutely phenomenally! Great winner

@0pacbig32

6 жыл бұрын

Fiji is a good one because post swap Ravu gets pagonged after the merge largely due to the haves vs. have-nots twist

You should do a video ranking the top reverse pagongings! Tocantins, Samoa, and Cook Islands immediately come to mind.

@juniper665

6 жыл бұрын

Darren Loro I don't think tocantins and Samoa would count as they are on the pre merge side, which makes them ulongings

What about Survivor Cook Islands where Aitu 4 took out Raro tribe?

"A pagong is a type of wild Filipino turtle" I feel so dumb as a Filipino because I thought pagong just meant turtle and wasn't a specific breed 😭

The Heroes tribe needs to be on this list, mostly because they had multiple chances to not be Pagonged had they listened to Sandra the first time she told them that Russell couldn't be trusted and that she wanted to flip to them, but JT giving Russell his idol and Candice flipping to the Villains the following tribal put a stop to that

Thailand wasn't a Pagonging because of the twist - Brian had already convinced Shii Ann to flip.

12:27 Andrea's cakeface is amazing :)

refinding this 6 years later, gotta remark on how ghost island (which hadn't aired yet) belongs on this list now retroactively probably around #5 or 4, and how ghost island and palau are a special type of pagonging that's pretty much only been seen those 2 times.

I feel like One World gets way too much hate. Yes the cast didn't really fight Kim, but she was a force and all those blindsides were very entertaining. I loved it and there were lots of memorable characters. Redemption Island though.....the absolute worst. Can't even try to rewatch it. Just terrible

“Maybe with a Bow and arrow” oh Jesus shots fired (bow and arrow shots)

Anyone else scream Palau to the screen for the number 1 spot and then Redemption Island pop up

@jorgeraimondososa2438

4 жыл бұрын

I thought Palau was going to be part of the list.

What episode was the episode with the wild animal coming on shore?

Do u think u could make the best pagongings because I really the liked the Pagongings of Survivor Palau

@juniper665

6 жыл бұрын

Marcel D That's more of an Ulonging since it happened before Merge

You need to do the best pagongings ever and include the Cook Islands

Nearly three years later, we have one in Big Brother: "All-Stars 2." Easily one of the most boring, rigged and offensive seasons, ever. Production could've broken up the vanilla alliance (Memphis, Christmas, Cody, Nicole, Danielle and Tyler) to prevent this. They did nothing and now it's one of the lowest-rated seasons despite having little competition for original programming and being an "(sm)all-stars" cast.

@hungryhippowdon7141

3 жыл бұрын

Kinda fitting that it's also the 22nd season, much like RI was.

I think redemption island had so much potential! Voting off russell hantz so early proved to be pretty silly

@cdawg4021

2 жыл бұрын

Yes we know the Zapatera 6 ruined their own games.

I actually found the Boston rob pagonging quite entertaining due to how unusual and outrageous that cult was. He ruled that camp with an iron fist and no one on both tribes tried to switch it up. lol

@dianeross4361

4 жыл бұрын

To each their own. That is the only season ever in survivor I nearly quit watching. So boring. I called a Rob-Philip-Natalie T Final 3 on the 2nd episode.

+Peridiam Is there a way to apply Survivor tactics to Big Brother and vice versa?

@Peridiam

5 жыл бұрын

Haha, that's a big question! There definitely is. I would say a lot of tactics on Survivor can also be applied to BB. Ultimately they're both very social, strategic games.

Question: do you consider samoa a pagonging? Or does it not count since Galu had the numbers come merge?

@Peridiam

6 жыл бұрын

Samoa is sort of a pagonging, but either way I find it a fun one. Foa Foa did manage to get Erik knocked out and then flipped Shambo/John, so it's not as simple as most pagongings.

Can you do your top 5 least favorite seasons.

RIDICULOUS BUDDY SYSTEM?!?!? Ummm. Excuse me. That was straight up Genius. That season was entertaining to watch as u see what a great player can really do.

@dianeross4361

4 жыл бұрын

It was ridiculous only since the others were a joke to agree to it. What a bunch of bumbling clowns that season.

@greenearth975

2 жыл бұрын

A strategy that only works when the other players are complete idiots.

The worst for me was Worlds Apart. That was a season where the likable alliance got pagonged by one of the most unlikable alliances in the history of the show. I stopped watching once Shirin was voted out because there was no one left that I liked. I would put that instead of Panama personally.

@kenneyp.9456

4 жыл бұрын

Really shirin out of ever in the cast, you liked shirin, she was super annoying

@jaredjacoby6168

4 жыл бұрын

I mean it was mainly the other no collars, but I stopped watching because I knew that the season would not get better with people like Dan, Rodney, Tyler, Sierra and especially Will. I wasn’t a huge fan of Shirin but she was in the minority alliance, so I was hoping she somehow avoid getting voted out and once she was gone, I stopped watching because I had no desire to watch the remaining players. That season was just a mess and it’s disappointing because it started out very strong. The pagonging of the no collars ruined the season for me. It wasn’t just boring and predictable, it was downright uncomfortable to watch with Dan’s comments and the fight between Will and Shirin that got personal.

Does anyone else feel that redemption island was just an attempt by the producers to give Boston Rob or Russel a win?

How did you know what was going to happen to allow you to skip the episodes as a 1st time viewer?

The redemption island twist was terrible but actually didn’t make any difference, Philip was hillarious and what Boston Rob did was beautifull, imo this is far from being the worst season. Not every season has at least a few good characters, some memorable moments （Russell destroyed, Philip stuff, the final tribal...）and such a great great winner.

The best pagonging is galu in samoa

@thebeardedwondercorbin8058

6 жыл бұрын

The Doich that and heroes vs villains

@jordanbeck8945

6 жыл бұрын

Fuck no, Russell sucks.

@jakebishop7822

6 жыл бұрын

the one where the dominant tribe starts down 7 to 3+ Russell. It is just such an insurmountable lead.

@vrimb1

4 жыл бұрын

russell counts as ten people so they had advantege

@jafarohlala9936

4 жыл бұрын

Also Raro in Cook Islands

Hey! What about to pagonging in heroes vs villains?

Loved the video, but wouldn't the Matt blindside be a deviance from the pagonging? The first merge boot was an Ometepe

@Peridiam

6 жыл бұрын

Free T1 Good question. I’d say it was a deviance but it didn’t prevent a pagonging from happening. In fact I think it allowed it to happen since the main swing vote was removed.

Can you do a "worst tribes in SV history/most dysfuntional tribes" ir something like that but excluding ulong! Haba

What about cook islands? The with 4 were the final 4 and entered merge down with numbers

I think the producers have avoid Pagoings by doing swaps early and sometimes 2 times. So it doesn't get predictible.

Redemption Island one of my favorite just because its the most dominant performance of a single person ever on survivor he brought who he wanted to the finals no one else could do that like he did...

Why isn’t the Aitu 4 pagonging Raro on here? Cook Islands?

And now Malolo. Smh

@thewrestlingguru1600

6 жыл бұрын

Harambe That's a ulonging my dude.

@moonhead538

5 жыл бұрын

Not really... You're talking about the Healer tribe.

Rewatching this video now, crazy to think that 41 and 42 has no tribe swaps (not counting the trails) but no pagonging at all.

7:53 is that a reference to...what I think it is???

The original Pagong(ing) is tragic but amusing, given the behind the scenes stuff that has come out over the years (and I believe Jeff talked about it in his book back in the day). About how Pagong largely just didn't think the show was going to be a thing, so they absolutely were just screwing around, having fun, voting for Jeff, getting talking-to's to take things seriously, retaping confessionals and tribals, etc. On top of that is Tagi actually having an alliance, Richard actually employing strategy, and Pagong not actually even attempting to play the game until way too late. It really sucks they all got picked off one by one, but it's also not remotely surprising. 😂 Pagonging doesn't feel quite as bad when it's a group you love vs a group you don't, but it pretty much never ever happens that way. Which makes it all the more miserable when it happens, when the group you dislike triumphs.

Survivor Thailand is SO frustrating and literally it's entirely production's fault. I definitely think the schoolyard pick at the beginning of the season sorted the castaways in a far less interesting arrangement than otherwise could've happened, and it's easy to picture other seasons (say, Australia) being JUST as boring had they been schoolyard picks. And yeah, the fake merge was a TERRIBLE decision and super cringe, and one of the only two likeable castaways (Shii Ann, who I still believe to this day could've made final four if the twist didn't happen) on the entire season was immediately eliminated because of it. Ugh.

What about Survivor Palau?

And despite pangongings are boring and frustrating, there are still people that list Survivor Borneo as the "best" season better... pfff!

@jorgeraimondososa2438

4 жыл бұрын

Borneo is so overrated. Of all the first 20 seasons, i would say it is only better than Thailand and Fiji.

This is why Marquesas was such an underrated season: because it was the first season to fail a Pagonging attempt. John Caroll of Rotu has all the power in the game at the Final 9: he had his alliance of four, plus Neleh and Pascal, and with that group of 6 it was clear Maraamu was screwed. But because of John’s own ego and cockiness, the 5 outsiders turned on the Rotu Four alliance and took them all out. It was also the first season where the final 2 was from two different tribes!

The first season that came to mind was Palau. This might not qualify as a Pagoning though since they basically eliminated the other tribe pre-merge. Only Stephanie was left.

@jayjasperjp

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not a Pagonging because it happened pre-merge

What's funny is I just finished watching Borneo for the first time

Some pagongings end up being great seasons.. HvV, Panama, Cagayan, etc

@immanuelak2643

4 жыл бұрын

cagayan is not pagonging. do u mean morgan lj jeremiah jefra streak? cagayan is like the modern tropical version of china but started up with 3 tribes.

Shii Ann was going to flip on her Sook Jai tribe so it was going to be a Pagoning anyway...

How did you not have Cook Islands . There were only four after the mutiny and then they ended being 4 out of 5 of the final 5 was from that that tribe of 4

What about the cook islands one?

Pagongings aren't necessarily bad if the characters in the story is told well and majority are good characters (which a lot of these seasons were not, other than Panama). Plus it can be fun to see the majority eat each other alive at the same time.

Aw, I really liked One World lol UGH @ Redemption Island. Thank you very much for unearthing those awful memories. :p Zaptera got a bad rep. I liked them, well, as much as I could've liked anyone from that season

What about the best pagonings (FVF, Samoa, HvV)

I think the more appropriate phrase you should have used is, "probably used a hen in the rooster house"

+Peridiam I think pagongings exist in Big Brother, too. The current season is a prime example of this.

Maybe I’m just strange but I really enjoyed watching Redemption Island??? It’s even with China on my board. Idk I think I just like villains winning......

if only he knew ghost island was to come not even 3 months after this video...

6:18 Brian getting denied a kiss

would ghost island make this list if you did it now? where?

@Peridiam

6 жыл бұрын

Sam Murphy Don’t think so, Naviti didn’t really pagong Malolo!