Having a serial killer as a dive instructor is indeed a stressful situation. 10/10.

@kitbotbot4778

Жыл бұрын

LOL INDEED!

@pettykittyfam

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! 😂

@nerdocalypse7466

Жыл бұрын

100% dude was like this is my chance, people will say it was an "accident" that i took your mask off then turned your air off while your helping another person [evil laugh]

@Kenny-yl9pc

Жыл бұрын

@@nerdocalypse7466 and ripped the weights off so that in case everything else was not enough to kill them that surely ripping the weights off so they rush to the surface and die aganoisingly! This dude is completley crazy and out of order he is insane!

@Kenny-yl9pc

Жыл бұрын

There is some information that indicate this "instructor" worked for the turkish government as some kind of torturer to extract information with water boarding and stuff like that. So it makes sense what we see here, you know he is truly a psychopath that killed before and he enjoys the power dynamic and putting people in danger and being the one who controls and dominates the situation. Thats typical psychopathic behaviour.

That's like a flight instructor training a student for in-flight issues, so he shuts the engine off, throws the keys on the floor, sprays you with pepper spray, and turns the plane upside down.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

And jumps off the plane with a parachute

@tookitogo

2 жыл бұрын

Except it’s not in a simulator, where pilots actually learn new skills, but rather in an actual airliner at altitude. Sure, let’s depressurize it while having a ninja attack you when the live alligator is taking a break, start pulling circuit breakers over and over, and maybe set something on fire, ya know, to keep things realistic! O_o

@user-jg9rp5qf4g

2 жыл бұрын

And then throws a full-grown grizzly bear at you just in case because why not. The skies are dangerous.

@tookitogo

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-jg9rp5qf4g And then they pepper spray the grizzly.

@tomcruisesmiddlefronttooth9221

2 жыл бұрын

@@tookitogo while the grizzly is riding a unicycle and isn’t properly trained to do so

It says something great about Woody that within literally 5 seconds he had the instructor pegged as an irresponsible maniac.

@LeonRedfields

8 ай бұрын

Ive never seen Woody so upset before. He looked like he wanted to strangle the instructor lol

That instructor is lucky that none of the students lashed out at him. At some point they must have realized that he was putting them in extreme danger.

@repro7780

5 ай бұрын

I would hope these students had a very direct, pointed conversation with this "instructor" when they were out of the water. Like fingers in his face conversation.

From where I'm standing that looked like an attempted triple homicide.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Zoe it sure did.

@zacharilowe

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly.

@charlesg7926

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. That looked like an “I am a psychopath who wants to kill people but I want to have plausible deniability about it” kind of thing. Ripping masks off is one thing (bad enough) but closing people’s tanks WHILE all their masks are off? Yeaaahhhh…. That’s not hardcore, it’s pretty much hoping someone drowns at that point. And I’m all about hardcore training, but this is nuts 🥜

@JuanGarcia-or2ty

2 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way . I really hope people see this and fire him from doing this. He is really going to kill someone. If someone is really trying to do this as a sport and get a trainer like this they will not continue and it’s so sad because these guys here really have passion for this sport and want people to see it the way they do.

@tingwei1016

2 жыл бұрын

Swear to god this guy has got to be ill. Holy fucking shit.

I've been diving for 40 years, I'm an instructor with two agencies and NEVER have I seen such gross misconduct in an instructor. This guy should have been prosecuted for endangering life.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! This was insane.

@ToniHunterOne

2 жыл бұрын

@abdul hameed I don't understand your comments.

@fredEVOIX

2 жыл бұрын

​@@ToniHunterOne with age you start getting all sorts of problems breathing, equilibrium, blood,heart etc...all of which seems to be no-nos for diving ?! I guess that's what he meant

@azureoverlord9346

2 жыл бұрын

For endangering human species

@foilhattiest1

2 жыл бұрын

@abdul hameed By that logic I sure hope you'll never consider travelling in a car again for the rest of your life.

This was ridiculous. This is a Scuba instructor in Southern Turkey. I recognized the Turkish name, found him on social media, and sent him a link to your video. Not to embarrass him whatsoever, but so that he understands the gravity of what he’s doing here and MAAYBE learns from it. When I first got certified, there is no way I would’ve stayed as calm as those students did on my 3rd day in open water. Kudos to them all but man…

@G2Wheel

8 ай бұрын

I did the same, Beste. Gercekten yine sasirtmadik.

@ClaytonBigsby01

8 ай бұрын

Yeah at the about the third mask pull I would have took away the threat and that was the instructor 😂

@ether9533

7 ай бұрын

Could you tell us his name please?

@SBKuromori

7 ай бұрын

It is written in second line in video

@nemiw4429

7 ай бұрын

​@@ether9533he got the message. He doesnt need to get spammed by low lifers that use it to act out their sociopathy under a umbrella of doing good.

Not only is it so highly unlikely that you lose your mask 3 times in a row, your weight belt, your tank comes loose and your air gets cut off - but also all that happening to YOUR BUDDY AT THE SAME TIME…. like EVEN IF that all would happen to you, you would still have a buddy there to help you deal with all this… not both you ending up in complete chaos out of nowhere…

It’s a fine-line between this dude’s stress & rescue class, and multiple counts of attempted murder.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Razor thin!

@Narusasu98

2 жыл бұрын

I was freaking out the entire video, I wanted to stop him so much

@johnkelly1083

2 жыл бұрын

If this guy continues doing this, he's eventually going down for manslaughter.

@aldannen9971

Жыл бұрын

no nm. Mif lol llllllll l) OK nm n nm m d?

@technophant

Жыл бұрын

Military instructors will do all this including cutting hoses

I feel bad for Woody watching this - he was so excited about explaining a stress and rescue class only to witness what looks like attempted murder.. Those poor students!

@meganwiley1990

Жыл бұрын

I 100% agree. He came into this so happy to see and explain how great these classes can and SHOULD be, and had his heart ripped out.

@SherydannDGonzalezR-bl3ch

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree, insane.

these guys handled it extremely well! out of air without a mask with all this chaos around you and not panicking? holy mother, badass

@jellyfishattack

Жыл бұрын

Also ditching their weights is a recipe for a CESA. That guy's going to kill people.

@k9px

10 ай бұрын

How did they even get past the closing of the air tanks? How do the students turn it back on?

@drucillaravenwood5578

9 ай бұрын

This kind of thing must cause you guys such anxiety and frustration knowing that you❤😊❤😊 are such great pros I hope if I ever take up diving I have great instructors of your wonderful calibre

@antoinebrg6299

8 ай бұрын

do you mean they're well trained by this maniac ? :p

When Gus flat out said “because he’s an asshole” I flat out lost it.

This guy's class should be called "Stress until Actual Rescue Needed"

@fkrioters1000

2 жыл бұрын

Or "scuba-diving hand-to-hand combat"

@Gizziiusa

2 жыл бұрын

@@fkrioters1000 that was my thinking too. "is he teaching some underwater training for combat ?!"

@Kenny-yl9pc

Жыл бұрын

Nah it should be called "the attempting murder class" with "psychopathic serial killer instructor" who is on a "killing spree just for you". xD

I'm an instructor, and they're right, this instructor needs to be fired and banned from EVER being with a student ever again. He isn't training them, he's trying to kill them.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve

@stevehorsley4859

2 жыл бұрын

@@DIVETALK I assume you've already found and reported him to CMAS and/or Turkish authorities?

@christopherthomas8722

Жыл бұрын

@@stevehorsley4859 curious, and this isn’t a criticism, did you report it as well? I think one of the things I hear about most is if someone thinks something is wrong they need to say something and not wait and hope for someone else do it. Maybe a report or attention from Dive Talk might get more perked ears, but that doesn’t mean you didn’t have to report it too. If you did, GREAT! I just really am concerned when people just hope and expect when someone else will do what they know they should themselves!

The lesson they were supposed to learn was to be careful who you trust with your life.

You guys got it wrong. This isn't a diver stress test. It's a class on how to survive James Bond movie style underwater combat! He's prepping them to take on Goldfinger!

"because he’s an asshole" - Amazing summary for the entire episode.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

He really was so negligent here in our opinion (and dangerous).

@justin9744

2 жыл бұрын

@@DIVETALK No doubt about it. This instructor should be disbarred. He is going to end up killing someone.

@kaprkapr

2 жыл бұрын

@@justin9744 I would put money on the fact that he has already killed students.

@jeaniejbutler4911

2 жыл бұрын

Gus, does have a way with words.

are they simulating some sort of rabid octopus attack?

@DIVETALK

3 жыл бұрын

We were wondering the same.

@scubaguy007

2 жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂🤣 🐙🐙🐙🐙🐙 🤿🤿🤿

@Roosterwbass

2 жыл бұрын

ahahaha top tier best comments ever.

@rayofsunshine4164

2 жыл бұрын

Lol. I imagine a super pissed octopus going at some divers like : "I AM GONNA F*$# THOSE GUYS UP" 🐙

@amyh5945

2 жыл бұрын

that's hilarious

I’ve had my mask knocked off. I’ve had weight belt issues. But never all at once multiple times. If I had that many problems during I dive I would abort. I’m an instructor and am horrified by this. These guys cannot support each other while fighting off their instructor. This is one of those guys that was hazed during his own course, so he terrifies everyone else.

Woody, you're spot on about the EGO instructor. It's about him, not about the students.

He turned a teaching moment, into a literal life or death situation.

@corail53

Жыл бұрын

Guess the instructor thought he was teaching navy seals. Who actually do this but in super controlled situations in a pool with safety divers and medical staff.

So really this course is: "How to defend against a James Bond villain"

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

John, was so hard to watch him do this to these students.

@KaladinVegapunk

2 жыл бұрын

I think it found out who the teacher was, it was Michael Beihns character from The Abyss haha, gone insane from the depth

@totilsom

2 жыл бұрын

LOL

@bighonker6842

2 жыл бұрын

My name is Lt. Coffee

@kitsunelee007

2 жыл бұрын

Basically

This reminds me of my dive training in the navy. Did a week in the pool playing a new game of "sharks and minnows". You'd be swimming along the bottom of a pool and the instructors swim down and do this, shut your air off, rip your mask off, sometimes they would shut your air off, wrap your primary around the 1st stage deflated so when you turn your air back on first it kinda locks the hose in place. But, that was 20 years ago, and in the navy.

Psychologist here, and THAT was how trauma memories and PTSD can occur. The amount of stress they were under is awful. I wonder how much learning and skill integration happened during that. That instructor likely has anti social personality traits (psychopathy) or narcissism. I'm surprised no student panicked. If I had this class I'd never dive again, my confidence and sense of safety would be gone. Not a diver tho....yet. you guys inspire me

@1234kingconan

Жыл бұрын

Narcisstic personality disorder seems likely. How did he get those people roped into his plan? They’re letting him do it. They must have drank his kool aid of narcissistic charisma

@jamiewilson4531

Жыл бұрын

Oh behave, we don’t know the experience and skill of the students. Multiple failures in a controlled setting is the best way to expand your skill set. If one or two failures happened in real life simultaneously and I’d have experience dealing with five, I wouldn’t even blink at dealing with this. This video shows close to what is taught on a solo diving course

@jessicataylor7174

Жыл бұрын

I have PTSD and this was distressing to watch. It's a class and they had no way to tap out. Pass or fail should not equate to live or die. He was sabotaging them constantly and so fast there wasn't even an opportunity to QUIT the class. They had zero control, he had 100% power and was exploiting it to the max. Simulating an emergency to learn how to deal with it is NOT the same as being forced into living that emergency.

@Anonymous38572

Жыл бұрын

Omg everyone getting PTSD nowadays with these psychologists diagnosing everyone and their dogs

@nyla2408

Жыл бұрын

@@jamiewilson4531 You have no idea what you're talking about. You're not even a diver.

I’m not a diver but if that was my instructor I would have been reaching for my diving knife in self defence.

@eastcoastitalian8758

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!! INTENTIONALLY turning off someones air while UNDERWATER is essentially homicide, this guy is wreckless beyond all recognition, if it were me and you down there and that was happening i would have fought thay dude off and i dont even know you at all, you just dont do shit like that to people unless its a combat diving course and that should be done in a much more controlled environment like a poool. Crazy vid. Angers me so much as a diver..

@ivuldivul

3 жыл бұрын

@@eastcoastitalian8758 Running out of air is a real life scenario - I've seen it. It's important that you DO NOT panic. It doesn't change the fact that this guy is acting like a prime a-hole.

@meme_enthusiast3021

2 жыл бұрын

@@ivuldivul thats why you train for shared air

@crazycdn8327

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this isn't the US Army's Dive school or SEAL training where there is 0.01% chance you'll get into a fight underwater in combat.

@bfergusonification

2 жыл бұрын

​@@eastcoastitalian8758 I have been on two separate dives where other divers ran out of air. It is absolutely a skill that should be practiced. Stress in general is also something you need to practice because panic is the number one danger to a diver. Turning off air in a stress test is not uncommon. In my stress test they told us they would turn off one of our air. The difference was that it was the very first thing they did (once we were ready) and we waited to see who it was, then began buddy breathing, then started the rest of the test. We didn't have our air turned off in the middle of looking for our mask and weightbelt. You don't do any of these stress tests until you are already an experienced diver.

What is additionally astounding to me, is they had a 5th person down there running the camera who additionally was just watching this attempted murder happen.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@tylerploucha291

Жыл бұрын

so true! Its like a Seinfeld episode...wheres the good samaritan? lol

@ericaespinosa4030

Жыл бұрын

That was on my mind as well

Geez. This isn’t a combat diver course

I’ve been bingeing on your videos and I’ve never been so genuinely upset by a video you guys have reacted to. This would probably terrify almost any new diver too much to ever get back in that gear.

@ClaytonBigsby01

8 ай бұрын

It just pissed me off and about 2 minutes in I would have started tearing the instructors mask off and turning his air off.😂 No shit .

This is like signing up for a CPR class only to have your instructor stick your hands in a lawnmower.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

I love this analogy.

@godlessfornicater

Жыл бұрын

And as another student is trying to help you, the instructor starts choking her.

When I did my rescue class I had well over 200 dives, and if the instructor or anyone involved had tried to pull this, I would have turned on them in an instant and pulled their own mask off before ascending safely and promptly leaving. This is not teaching, it's abuse. Even if it's staged, as Koray claims, this is not something that should ever be staged. Nothing can be gained from this, even if the three were instructors with a thousand dives each. It simply does not simulate any form of reality, is a waste of everyone's time, puts lives at risk, and sets a very poor example.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

It was terrible.

@Gizziiusa

2 жыл бұрын

xcellent assessment

@robertrosen2703

2 жыл бұрын

As a rookie with only 2 dives ever years ago, I would have drowned him then and there or stabbed him with my diving knife. I get super defensive when I feel threat anywhere...

As a non diver hoping to become one, watching these kinds of videos w you two is SO helpful. Because like Woody said, most people would not know this was abuse. It helped open my eyes on what to watch out for when I start my underwater adventuring. You 2 are great and hope to one day dive w you guys. Keep being amazing people and educators!!!

@claudettephillip9159

Жыл бұрын

dont give up ur dream if diving just remember you can always follow your instints when one red flag shows up never dive

@sof22869

9 ай бұрын

Have an amazing and safe drive journey!!😁

This is "Survive that instructor" final exam.

This guy is in Turkey and is actually a leader of a dive team, local coordinator for Aegean Ecotourism Society, works with the UN Global Environmental Facility for mapping seagrass in the Ayvalik Islands Nature Park, and a bunch of other stuff; which is just insane. Thank God I'll probably never be in any water near him.

@NOPE96

2 жыл бұрын

He needs to be fired immediately!

@Der_lachende_Sachefish

2 жыл бұрын

Please by all means do that, if possible 👌👌👌

@Laoch86

2 жыл бұрын

If you know who he is please report him or even just send this video to whatever organisation he is associated with.

@sminza2542

2 жыл бұрын

@@cdawg154 his name is clearly posted on the video lol.. Koray gerce, if you google him his dive advisor profile will tell you he’s an NAUI “instructor” at Ayvalik 3 sea diving centre.

@tvttv8273

2 жыл бұрын

@@cdawg154 Hi, I don't know him. I just did some research on him and found who he is. I can report him, no problem; however, I am familiar with how Turkish authorities tend to handle things like this, especially coming from someone who is not even in the country and at beast they will ignore, at worst it could make it difficult for me, if I travel to there again. They do not like foreigners causing issues for their citizens and their standards for regulation infractions and criminal infractions is much different than the US and most of Europe. Even if I report to an international governing body for diving, the same things is likely to arise; since I am not in the country. I will try and do it anonymously, which will give it probably no clout (even with the video). This video is public knowledge and something he uses to promote his business; if local authorities (diving and police) were going to do something, they probably would have already, seeing as he works with the government there. I am sure they have already seen this video and more than likely some personnel have first hand experience with this. We take the laws and regulations in our own countries for granted and gauge how the rest of the World is based upon them. I don't know how much you travel and if you have ever immersed yourself into other cultures; but in some countries, while this may be frowned upon, would not be illegal or a violation, since the participants signed up for it (a little more complicated than this, but basically how it would be viewed). Turkey is one of them. What needs to happen is participants need to report and complain and Turkish citizens, in the diving community, need to boycott him. I would say protest against him; but in Turkey there are strict laws against that and even speaking negatively about his business and the experience can land you in prison; especially since he seems to have some clout amongst the government, in some regards. I wish it was as easy as we all would like it to be here; but it just is not.

There's a reason I like you guys, yall actually care about the people you are around. People like you make the world better.

@ocoolwow

5 ай бұрын

Nah they just care about the potential lawsuits and the loss of revenue from bad publicity

To divers that have yet to take the rescue course can I just say it was the best course I’ve ever done and absolutely nothing whatsoever like this so please don’t let this “instructor” put you off. Happy diving all

This video actually gave me anxiety, frustration, anger, dumbstruck all in one

Gus: “Because he’s an asshole.” That was terrifying to watch and completely unsafe for the students. And my heart hurt watching them just DESTROY the benthic habitat

@dataloop5407

2 жыл бұрын

Scuba diving is unsafe and you have to be prepared. He coulda maybe did it in a pool like I had done during my dive course, but water is water.

@valthiriansunstrider2540

2 жыл бұрын

@@dataloop5407 Attempted homicide has nothing to do with water

@QuitCryingYouLost

2 жыл бұрын

@@dataloop5407 No. this is not how the course goes. Simple as that. He’s a guy who has mental problems and thinks he has some type of authority and is gonna get someone killed. NO excuses for that!!

@QuitCryingYouLost

2 жыл бұрын

@@dataloop5407 And water is NOT water. Their is a big difference between a pool and the ocean 😂 😂. You can’t take somebody weights off at depth and have the same outcome as a pool 😂.. now I know you really aren’t a diver bud…

When your instructor is also a contract killer 🤠

@DIVETALK

3 жыл бұрын

Sad but seems true in this case.

love the commentary and im glad i found you guys. dispite the effects of bad decision making, training, ignrorance and sadly preventable detahs, in these videos; yall have sparked a light in me to get scuba certified, and up, im really excited... keep it up yall

It's sad that he will probably not be held accountable since the laws are different in other countries. It's good that Gus and Woody are pointing this out for others to see. Not a diver but enjoy learning from their videos.

Dude, imagine if a sky diving teacher did these stunts?? whoa!

@DIVETALK

3 жыл бұрын

They would be sent to prison. This guy is the worst.

@sausland

3 жыл бұрын

Were doing stress and rescue today. *Cuts main parachute and kicks student out of plane* will he be able to deploy his back up while under deep stress in time well see.

@spikeyOG

2 жыл бұрын

Literally just as dangerous

@aliciazinn6211

2 жыл бұрын

That diving instructor definitely needs to be expelled from whatever school he's teaching from. If that was me, I wouldn't have given an ok 👌 he would have gotten a different sign 🖕

@choloscience

2 жыл бұрын

Like rip off the students parachute as you jump?

Me and my buddy are literally on the floor laugh/crying. I’m not joking, seriously if I had this instructor I’d be pulling my dive knife out and go in to combat mode. The only way you would experience something like this in real life is if someone was trying to kill you. They should’ve called this class Introduction to James Bond style scuba diving.

@DIVETALK

3 жыл бұрын

I know...so ridiculous.

@Gizziiusa

2 жыл бұрын

rofl. Course 007: Intro to Octopussy underwater combat

@jasondanner6630

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@fredEVOIX

2 жыл бұрын

don't give him ideas, next he will have "goons" with blunt spearguns shooting at it's stu...victims

@trouty7947

2 жыл бұрын

Even military training for actually dealing with people trying to kill you underwater, isn't this unsafe. They don't use unfamiliar rental gear, they use set gear that they know how to set up literally blindfolded behind their back before even getting wet. Not to mention imthey have more instructors than students in the water at a given time.

It's amazing how much stuff this guy is doing to the students. Nobody can tell me that the instructor can manage such a chaotic situation, if something goes really in a bad direction only for one student. I don't even believe that the instructor himself knows exactly whats going on during the whole time. You can't keep track of it at all. Apart from the fact that you can't judge 3 people at the same time whether there are really serious problems or not.

@ClaytonBigsby01

8 ай бұрын

Whats crazy to me is none of these people stood up for themselves and stopped him.

This was attempted murder. We just witnessed multiple crimes.

Holy cow this gets more and more infuriating as you watch it....at what point do you all decide “this guy is trying to kill us, it’s 3 vs 1” and start ripping his mask and reg out of his mouth while turning off his air

@DIVETALK

3 жыл бұрын

I know...every time you don't think it can get worse it does...just awful.

Even when you watch Navy SEAL training and they do this there's always two instructors per one diver with medical on standby. This in the first place is wrong and second off irresponsible.

This “class’ is complete uncontrolled chaos. I can’t get over how insane this is.

Gus is so good at the soft sell, just luring Woody into reacting to these crazy clips. Very entertaining but also it's so important to call people out who do insane and dangerous things!

The only time you would be in a situation like this and need to use this training was if another diver was literally trying to murder you and your group on a dive!!! This is insane

@dataloop5407

2 жыл бұрын

Totally incorrect, your mask can easily get knocked off from sea life, to current and even other panicked divers. Turning off your air is to simulate you running out of air and needing to switch tanks or get your dive buddy to buddy breath with you. It’s about preparedness, if you ever begin diving I hope I’m not on the same boat.

@flibbergibberstein

2 жыл бұрын

@@dataloop5407 Yeah, it's totally realistic for your entire dive group to lose their masks and have repeated failure of all of their equipment, all at the same time....lol.

@silvermainecoons3269

2 жыл бұрын

@@dataloop5407 Stop making excuses for this asshole.

@LG-Musique

2 жыл бұрын

@@dataloop5407 what diving qualifications do you have?

@anothatwentyphoasmr7430

Жыл бұрын

@@LG-Musique plot twist. that was the instructor in the video 😂😂

I would’ve ended up punching this instructor straight in the face when he went for my face mask. This is so disturbing to watch, but kudos to those students for staying so patient and calm. Great video as always guys!

@DIVETALK

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Zack!

@deadbolt91765

3 жыл бұрын

No joke, this instructor would def get a knuckle sandwich for lunch back on the boat.

@spo72

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe the guy who is doing the video is letting this twat getting away with this ,

@chipmanly1359

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, that's the proper response to a psycho trying to kill you underwater. Maybe the students all failed because they didn't try and stop him.

@AtlasRathbane4346

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to turkey buddy

I took a rescue diver course a few years ago, cause my mom, who I dive with, was half-jokingly "well, I'm a bad diver, so you've gotta know how to save me just in case," and this exercise was definitely not in the course.

I love how woody says “my reaction for this is…” lol. Woody it’s a reaction video we know lol. Love you two

That was a pretty savage session. The instructor is absolutely nuts. Not even in BUDS you don’t treat fellow soldiers like that. In BUDS, part of pool competency we have the underwater “hazing” but the instructors will do it individually and only once, never repeatedly. A student is hazed, maybe turned upside down, have the mask removed and the tanks valve turned off or the hoses tied in a knot, but then the student is left to deal with the situation under the close surveillance of two instructors. And folks, that is MILITARY training, arguably for the best underwater military operators in the world.

@jameslarsen5764

Жыл бұрын

SEALs are Sailors, not Soldiers.

@meganwiley1990

Жыл бұрын

Facts!!!!

@nischeta5462

Жыл бұрын

@@jameslarsen5764 bro vet moment

@youtuberschannel12

11 ай бұрын

@@jameslarsen5764 How about both?

@WM-gr4qi

11 ай бұрын

Reminds me of a guy I know who got out and decided he would become an EMS instructor to do his impression of a drill sergeant. The man's methodology consisted only of inflicting stress during an already condensed course and punishing students for his own embarrassment.

Some navy seals would probably have drowned in that situation, unless they stabbed the instructor first.

@RJT80

2 жыл бұрын

Most diver courses in the military for combat occupations include this extreme stress stuff. Same in the coast guard for law enforcement and rescue occupations. And that goes back to WW2. Exact job my uncle had during Vietnam. He later became a certified instructor and led a few National Geographic funded expeditions.

@charlieghague

2 жыл бұрын

Navy Seals actually do this exact thing. It's called PoolComp. But it's way safer than what's being done here. I showed this to my friend who is a SEAL instructor and his reaction was "he's gonna kill these people".

@psyience3213

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlieghague yeah theyre at least 1:1 and in a pool with emergency personel on hand.

@charlieghague

2 жыл бұрын

@@psyience3213 Yup. It's 1:1 with another diver. But they also have an instructor on the surface, and a couple standing on side of the pool. So more like 4:1. Plus all the corpsmen and dive medics you mentioned. They also don't do it in the open ocean. That's nuts.

@moshunit96

2 жыл бұрын

Watched a show on seals doing their buds training and they did something somewhat similar but it was in a pool with maybe 12 feet of water with safety people on stand-by. It was a set exercise where they had to get their gear on and working again without surfacing. We're talking about guys in peak condition as well. This video of the instructor was just reckless by comparison.

Not a diver, but you guys are fascinating and immensely watchable.

Love your videos!! I've never dived nor met someone who has before. I just sorta fell into the community and you guys make it very fascinating. Thank you 😊

I'm absolutely astonished. I'm a former commercial diver, also a PADI Dive Master. That is crazy. My instructors pulled some shit on me during training, but they didn't try to kill me ffs. That was outrageous. I got put under stress, and got fooled around with during training. One instructor was Cold War SBS. He was hard core. He'd never have done anything like this.

@DIVETALK

3 жыл бұрын

It’s so wrong for sure.

@Direkin

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, SBS is pretty hard core. We're both PADI pros, but I've thumbed through a BSAC manual before, and one of the exercises they do is for the instructor to rip your mask off at any moment, and that's for open water. That was quite an old manual though, so I wonder if their method has since changed.

This is exactly exactly exactly how my stress test went when completing my DM. The instructor was unable to take myself and the other student into six meters of open water to perform my equipment exchange. He decided that best practice would be going to the 4.5ft pool to perform the equipment exchange. I stood up once in the pool giving a massive burp and choking up as I hadn't taken a proper breath in ages and my diafragm was contracting at that point. you guys 100% nailed it that its inflated ego and in no way will I ever experience that in the real world. So me and my buddy had to swap BCD, Mask, fins and weights whilst using one octopus regulator between the two of us whilst being inflated, deflated, masks flooded and regulators being purged left right and centre. But as you guys say students don't know what the standards are and often fear the instructor or fear of failing the course. I remember when I was doing my panic diver too my instructor and his assistant said "we are gonna f***ing drown you." Bad teaching passed from one instructor to the next unfortunately as I recall the assisting instructor told me of his own panic diver drill where his instructor grabbed a jelly fish out the water and shoved it down his wetsuit. As usual thanks for your valuable knowledge and experience gentlemen.

@IreneWY

Жыл бұрын

😳

@talk-supersix-seven6021

Жыл бұрын

I think even in the navy seal training they do mess with your stuff but even then not THAT much, they do maybe one thing at a time with maybe two in total deliberate sabotages throughout the entire dive. Plus they have several people ready to rescue you if you start drowning.

@tatianam.6217

Жыл бұрын

This!! To me as well, still nearly not as bad as this video though.. I was so fed up with my instructor with those actions: I purged on him when he tried coming near me at one point… He didn’t think it was funny, I did..

@BjerkeRobin

Жыл бұрын

@@talk-supersix-seven6021 exactly. The seals have like at least 2 backup divers per candidate, and even then it's still just a single encounter, getting turned around and having several sabotages which they then have to fix.

@zakkziegler111

Жыл бұрын

@@talk-supersix-seven6021 SEALS training is apparently very much like torture when it comes to this type of stuff. I've known two in my life and they didn't have pleasant memories of it. They both independently said the diving training was by far the worse; considering they essentially let you drown, "safely", but still. They said SERE was a close second. There's a reason more SEALS die in training than actual combat. If the training is like nothing you're likely to ever actually experience, then you're going to be more calm and collected since you've already experienced hell, at least that's how it was justified to those I've known. Anyway, my whole point is that these people are not SEALS, lmao, nor did they sign up to be.

I have never dived in my life. I came across this channel by chance a few weeks ago and now can't stop watching and would love to do some basic diving this year, awesome channel , Respect for Ireland 🇮🇪

the level of frustration woody gets to and then tries not to tell us too uncensored about how he really feels gets me everytime i love it XD

I'm not even a diver and I could barely watch this video. Even in seal training, you sit still while they fuck your shit up and then you fix them in a specified order. And that's in a swimming pool accompanied by some of the most experienced divers in the world. They dont continue to add more problems and variables while you're fixing another. And many Seals struggle on this portion of training more than any other!

@robertrosen2703

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Also from the videos of any country's navy I've seen, they train those high stress/combat situations minimum with one instructor per student. More often one instructor who fucks with you and one overseeing everything.

@999a0s

2 жыл бұрын

​@@robertrosen2703 yes! if SEALs were doing this type of "training", in the open ocean, at depth, with 1 instructor to 3+ students, half the fucking class would die. the situation the instructor created is completely beyond his control. he can't save all three if they start failing to clear issues...let alone saving one. he sabotaged so many things so fast i guarantee he doesn't even know which failures each student is experiencing! it's literally "i'm going to sabotage everything i can in an uncontrolled manner and if you don't manage to survive, you're dead." this dude needs to be fucking quarantined from ever diving again. jesus christ

@aiGeis

2 жыл бұрын

Yes AND that's in stage 2 of BUD/S where they've already weeded out a SIGNFICANT percentage of the class (~70-80%) and are left with absolute studs in peak physical condition.

He is a turkish diver/ ''instructor'' and has a youtube channel. He is quite well known with his projects for mapping seagrass in Ayvalık islands. İt's surprising how someone who basically spends his entire time under water can be this fucking daft. Your reaction was understandable and i actually want to praise you for being able to keep it civil. I was raining F Bombs the entire time.

@markouellette6868

2 жыл бұрын

The minute he pulled this sht on me I would go in fight or flight survival, panick and probably pull my blade. How people get away with this I have no idea. One person stabs 1 person and sharks will know. I'm just thinking of the fact that's probably not the only 3 he trained.

@ege5804

2 жыл бұрын

@@markouellette6868 Underwater huste is the LAST thing you want to do specially under such circumstances. The key to surface alive is to be as calm as a cucumber. I'd try and go back to the surface and since we are not seals, there will be a moment he will follow short eventually. That's where i'd possibly beat the living shit out of him. And im not kidding, nobody is getting away with such dumb fucking behavior.

@listrahtes

9 ай бұрын

So what is his name? Why is everyone dancing around it? Name him ,look up which Org licensed him and write them about this. He needs to be removed from being an instructor

@ege5804

9 ай бұрын

@@listrahtes That’s not how the law works in Turkey. Judical system is nothing short of fucking horrible so he either paid his way through or some “complications” in the process occured. OR he knows someone from the high chair.

@kileytk

9 ай бұрын

@@listrahteshis name is clearly on the video reacted to, it’s Koray Gerce. He’s an instructor with NAUI. I googled it when I saw it as it struck me as a name and sure enough there’s plenty about him mentioned online from there …

The instructor’s name is on the screen the whole time and Woody is like who is this man😂

Your guys’ videos are very instructional and entertaining! I appreciate you both and wish the most success for you and your families!

In Open Water class, the only thing out instructors did was turn off our air so we know how it feels. They always let us know before they did it. If they had attacked us like that, they would have been fired.

love this channels professionalism and no ego approach to diving, really cool to listen to

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Epitomizing how the scariest anger is really disappointment. Nice reaction, gents

Only thing I've ever seen comparable to this was they once had a few dive trainers who were prior seals at a 'deep pool' on base and they were teaching underwater combat or something...but it was at a pool... with 6 rescue divers within two arms length of the group... and the trainer gave them a sign to say "I'm starting" and they never had more then one at a time in distress. Focus being on the fact... it's a controlled or semi controlled environment with a compression/de-compression chambers and a rescue med connected to the room and the Navy Hospital right across the street.

That instructor gives me anxiety. It's practically torture.

Hey guys, thanks so much for making this video! I've been teaching recreational diving for about a decade now and I would never teach my rescue courses this way but believe it or not I've seen a lot of instructors teaching their rescue courses just like this, sadly it's common. I've had this conversation many times before about safety in rescue courses, and have had DM's in training assist my course to play the role of distressed and unconscious diver who often think ripping students gear off in a rescue course was standard training because they did the same in their course, and I have to make it very clear to everyone that they're never to act like that in my course and remind them that a student taking a rescue course is NOT a rescue diver! They are an advanced open water diver only, and even experienced divers can panic when they have their mask off and someone rips the reg out of their mouth. I'm going to show this video to my fellow instructors and students. Thanks

@DIVETALK

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome feedback Paul! Thank you for taking the time to watch the video and thank you for sharing it with fellow instructors and students.

Can't dive anymore, but it's nice living vicariously through others. I'm really enjoying your channel!

I'm all for stress, but that is DANGEROUS!!! I've seen military stress dive training and it is not that poorly run. Definitely not such a gross loss of control by the instructor.

This is INSANE! (11:22) In 25+ years of diving, I've never seen anything like this. This doesn't happen in the real world, and he is creating an unsafe training environment. This instructor should have his credentials pulled and never be allowed to teach another course. OMG!

@DIVETALK

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the great feedback. Always great to hear from industry veterans.

@TritonsRealm

3 жыл бұрын

@@DIVETALK Thanks. You guys are doing a great job. Love the "React" videos. Looking forward to more! Keep it going.

@DIVETALK

3 жыл бұрын

@@TritonsRealm awesome! Will do.

@dataloop5407

2 жыл бұрын

I have, I went through it at 11 years old during my OWD. It was me and 12 other adults. Only a teenage girl, who freaked out during haze night and didn’t pass. So basically everyone here has the temperament of a teenage girl.

@ItsOnlyIzzy1

Жыл бұрын

@@dataloop5407 nah you’re a dick for making that comment. Just because one girl was unable to handle something, doesn’t mean you can vilify other people in that same light AND insinuate being a girl is a disadvantage in this environment because of the one time you experienced that. Many women are brilliant divers, likewise with men. Gender has nothing to do with it thank you.

Just googled this guy, he’s still an instructor, I pray he hasn’t killed anyone

@dataloop5407

2 жыл бұрын

He hasn’t because those student probably did this before and are TRAINED. I’m really tired of our politically correct safe space world. Not everyone is meant to be a diver, you need to be prepared.

@Laoch86

2 жыл бұрын

@@dataloop5407 explain where anyone mentioned anything about being politically correct? Just divers observing incredibly unsafe practice. There's nothing political about being disturbingly unsafe.

@flibbergibberstein

2 жыл бұрын

@@Laoch86 He's some idiot that thinks doing something in a stupid and dangerous way is macho or makes you tougher or something. Not even the SEALs train like this, and I'd bet the average SEAL is about 50X more tough than this loser.

@tiktak3559

Жыл бұрын

@@Laoch86 they are reacting way too calmly this is not their first training. :) And everyone is judging the instructor extremly harshly.

Hi guys, i discovered your channel a week ago and i am now hooked, im not a diver and im also terrified of the open water ( nevermind caving) , you do such a good job of explaining everything in laymans terms and your passion for what you do shines through, although your vids are serious you have the right amount of funny too, i have liked and subscribed .

Student who passed this instructor's test: *gets everything ripped off of them in a dive. "Oh well. Guess I'll die now."

As rough as it is for you guys to watch stuff like this, keep doing it, please. Novice divers or those just getting into it might be grateful to know if they got a bad instructor before they get in the water.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Will do.

this might be the scariest dive video I’ve ever seen 😳 this wasn’t just stressful, exactly what Woody said this was severe danger that had no reality. I am also proud of the students they survived attempted murder!

I made the mistake of passing up the opportunity to earn any SCUBA certifications, but I did go diving as a tourist once in Hawaii. I am appalled that this instructor would cause such malfunctions to multiple 'students' simultaneously. My eyes almost bulged out of my head in the first few seconds upon seeing him do that. He has no awareness as to whether the first student he sabotaged was successful in recovering before causing more faults in other students. If one or two of those students were to have actual problems and be unable to recover, the instructor won't have a clue until they're dead. Unbelievable - and you don't have to be a SCUBA expert (respect to both of you gents!) to see how incredibly dangerous this was.

New title: Instructor tries to kill three students

Honestly terrifying. My SSI Stress/Rescue class was nothing like this. A class like this might have made me quit scuba diving - underwater movie fights have nothing on this.

This dive class is like going through McKamey Manor. He’s like torturing them for fun

@auusstin8404

2 жыл бұрын

That dude that runs that place is absolutely a disgusting human. Even when people are begging to stop he keeps going. He needs to go to jail. Anyone with half a bran can obviously tell he is addicted to torturing people. He was a government torture person/ instructor back in the day too. He literally enjoys torturing people. And it’s even worse now he can do it “LEGALLY”

@Kenny-yl9pc

Жыл бұрын

@@auusstin8404 Someone needs to take him out. I mean not for good but to the point where he cant speak and move again. You know for the safety and good of mankind and his potential future students who could be killed by this psychopathic serial killer on a killing spree. And if its true that he was a torturor for the turkish government then it makes all sense now. That just shows how muhc of a psychopath he is and why he is enjoying it that much. He had for sure some "accidents" with students while diving. And did cover it up as such. The turkish government is corrupt barbaic and criminal so no one should rely on them for regulation or help or justice. They kill and torture their opposition and everybody they dont like. Thats why they have people like this "instructor" on their pay roll as an government employee. Im serious someone needs to take him out you know in an "accident" maybe while diving.

Love you guys. You are the reason I am pursuing recreational diving. Keep up the awesome vids

Divers just going into these classes don't know the standards. Gus is right, when someone goes in they're likely to just be like wow this is brutal and scary but it is a stress class because they have no idea what to expect, thank you for the knowledge!! This saves students from these situations.

Actually when i made my first dive in the ocean making my open water diver at age 16, my instructor did the mask thing too. Supprises with turning off air in pool-training common too. Was hard but fun and build confidence in my and my mates skills. We got a tight team quickley, coz we had to depend on eachother. But this is madness...going for everything at the same time again and again, with 3 people at once is insane, unless you are preparing a military diving team for employment in a freakin warzone. Respect for the three divers and greetings from germany

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment.

Also what about the person filming this attempted murder, get rid of them too!

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Vanessa, very good point. Didn’t think of that. Valid and agree!

This looks insane it’s just all pure chaos and in no way what a stress and rescue class should look like.

So... when i was a kid my mom told me about her experience in a pool scuba course in, I'm guessing the 60s. She said they duck taped the mask, then spun you around underwater, then attacked your equipment, pulling things apart etc... so this could absolutely be passed down from some old instructor form the first half of the last century. That story stuck with me. I thought "i don't think i could ever dive because that sounds really like scarey traininh" (i was ALWAYs nervous about water growing up). When some friends encouraged me to get my open water to go diving with them on vacation i was just waiting for and dreading that part of the course where you get attacked blind under water. Fortunately it never happened and i learned that diving is mostly very relaxing, and safe when risk is managed well. But that story and fear nearly kept me from ever trying.

Scuba students please you must contact the certfication organization and report this behavior.

Imagine thinking that you're preparing someone to be calm in a stressful situation by conditioning them to fear and panic

I feel like I am just watching a crime. Very uncomfortable to see the abuse of these students

I have never felt so much stress watching one of your videos! OK I'm not going to lie: sometimes I complain about Woody on coffee but I have to say that I love you guys and am addicted to your channel! I've learned so much and have great respect for both of you ❤🦈

In a panic drowning a person might become dangerous unless subdued. Maybe the stress and rescue lesson these divers were failing at was to punch the dive master and subdue him. Looks like an unreal case scenario and more like an MMA fight. :)

I watched the documentary about Navy SEAL dive training, and that's the extent to my knowledge about this, but when they did this kind of stuff they did it to one diver at a time, in a shallow pool, and had several safety divers on standby to help in an emergency. Also the repeated mask and weight removal doesn't happen

@DIVETALK

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Nothing like this.

@rykehuss3435

2 жыл бұрын

And still people get injured during dive school in SEAL training. Many also quit during that phase, its brutal. They tie your hand and feet and toss you in the pool so you can learn to drown proof yourself. They also have paramedics and an ambulance right next to the pool

@tookitogo

2 жыл бұрын

@@rykehuss3435 How does one drown-proof? (I literally have no idea.)

@rykehuss3435

2 жыл бұрын

@@tookitogo With your hands and feet tied, you basically have to swim like a mermaid with no hands, and control your stress so you dont panic. Its possible but many drop out during that phase of dive school. The dive school is the most brutal part of BUD/S training, along with Hell Week.

@louiscypher4186

2 жыл бұрын

@@rykehuss3435 I assume it's like an CD acclimation course? which if so the Dolphin Swim is part of the pre dive course. That's just to get in the actual the dive training takes place afterward and only gets more intense.

Took me 8 months of watching your videos to come along this video… I’ve never scuba dived before, would definitely love to one day but I’d be fighting this dude instantly. Lol. Hope you guys are having a bless day!! Keep on grinding on KZread, please!!!

I’m not a diver.. BUT I came across your channel and now I’m hooked!

The only thing missing from the video of the horrible diving instructor is the music theme to Benny Hill!

You guys should show a video on this course showing us what a good instructor should do! I’ve never dived so I would have no clue just watching if this is normal or not :)

@DIVETALK

3 жыл бұрын

This is definitely NOT normal

@glowbaby1794

3 жыл бұрын

@@DIVETALK if it wasn’t for you guys, seeing this without your commentary would make me NEVER want to learn how to dive. Ever.

i’ve never went on a dive in my LIFE, and this video scared me so badly for the students. They could’ve gotten hurt so badly :( in what world would this ever realistically happen to all 3 of them at the same time? Props that they were trying their absolute best to help each other, but oh my goooosh

You guys are awesome. Informative and entertaining!