I'm surprised you didn't just use the raptor liner inside too. It would have possibly sealed the edges better and acted as a second layer of sound deadener.

@jwalster9412

2 ай бұрын

And also it would have been way more durable.

@briandale5645

2 ай бұрын

Hell yeah you are exactly right !

@WheelLoveTV

2 ай бұрын

This shoulda been the move 🤌🏽

@Reman1975

2 ай бұрын

It would have been pretty expensive in material, but it could have been worth it.

@LimJahey710

2 ай бұрын

@@Reman1975 Channel should be renamed C is for Cheap. I get bro does everything on a B is for Budget - but sometimes bro just needs to do it right the first time. All good content though nothing of value has been lost lol

The first issue is adhesion you have to scuff the surface with 600g scotch brite before painting and you really need a primer sealer at least. No matter what a year from now everything you coated in white will be corroded. I’ve been in body shops for 14 years and fixed dozens of home gamer style cut corner jobs like this. Just like me you gotta learn the hard way sometimes.

@joshuacstorlie

2 ай бұрын

Couldn’t you just spray an etching primer over the surface first? Edit:not after this mess. But before you paint?

@mynamerichie

2 ай бұрын

Confirmed my thought of "maybe ya shoulda laid some primer first"

@JordanAhughes

2 ай бұрын

@@joshuacstorlie an etch primer would help with adhesion yeah but not corrosion protection if you put a single stage paint on top of it moisture will still permeate the coatings. opening the pores of the metal by scuffing and applying a sealer which is a non permeable barrier, is the best way to stop corrosion. Second best way is by applying 3 coats of a cavity wax material.

@JordanAhughes

2 ай бұрын

@@mynamerichie if I was gonna do it his way I would have just Raptor lined the interior white first. Then done the exterior black.

@joshuacstorlie

2 ай бұрын

@@JordanAhughes I would have hosed the inside down with POR-15 if I would have DIY’d it myself, lol

Oh boy. Used water based paint over raw metal. Than oil based rust reformer over spots of that. This is going to be such a nightmare, lol. At least the paint will be easy to remove later on.

@andrewodri5409

2 ай бұрын

Right? I love the builds these guys do, but they are pretty much repainting the rooms of the Titanic right now. Once they take this thing offroad with the box welded to the cabin, sitting on unstiffened framerails, the paint will be the least of their problems. Makes for good content though!

@Csharpflat5

2 ай бұрын

Rookie mistake wow

@askmeaboutmattweiner

2 ай бұрын

​@@andrewodri5409because it will flex all over the place and separate welds?

@tootone

2 ай бұрын

​@askmeaboutmattweiner I definitely expect it to majorly flex. I love b is for builds though, so no hate.

@RADkate

2 ай бұрын

im more concerned that they build a literal oven on wheels, they even painted it black lmao@@andrewodri5409

If paint can come out. Then rain can come in.

@HVM_fi

2 ай бұрын

You are one off from Haiku, but correct.

@cj.wijtmans

2 ай бұрын

thats why modern cars use seam sealer on welds.

@TreBuilt

2 ай бұрын

agreed seam seal job on the inside needs to happen.

@sedrickwells8545

2 ай бұрын

I say inside and out ​@@TreBuilt

@macbook802

2 ай бұрын

B is for half a$$

This is a good lesson on the importance of ventilation while painting! Your lungs will also thank you when you are older. I think the white runs look hilarious. Paint them red for the ultimate murdered out look.

@HVM_fi

2 ай бұрын

Yeah dihydrogen monoxide is very bad at your lungs in high concentrations.

@jerrywilcox9890

2 ай бұрын

It's not going to hurt there lungs they had respirators on.

@random-person1

2 ай бұрын

@@jerrywilcox9890 you beat me to it lol

@st200ol

2 ай бұрын

@@HVM_fi dihydrogen oxide is worse though.

@1Uriahheep1

2 ай бұрын

@@st200ol Dihydrogen oxide is H2O...water! 😆

you could have attempted to presure wash the outside to remove the paint. One thing thats good about that white paint leaking on the outside it shows you all the air gaps and leaks that weren't sealed.

Noticing one thing... Every time Chris says _"We."_ The video always cuts to *OSCAR* in the video doing all the work 😂😂

@thirdmonkey

2 ай бұрын

It's been like that for years 😂 this should be Oscar's channel

@snowblind.

2 ай бұрын

Notice how it's been all voice over video lately?? Chris be talking over the minions doing all the work. I have a supervisor that does the same thing. Someone has to do the paperwork!!😂 😂

@benthebuilder6934

2 ай бұрын

The channel is a business, Chris is the business owner. He operates the channel, no different than a business owner operating a business without ever doing the manual labor

@morsecodereviews1553

2 ай бұрын

I'm glad someone else noticed😅

@jaybirdvc15

2 ай бұрын

Yup every time. Been saying it for years. I'm team Oscar, if he started his own channel I'd unsub from bisforbuild

Bruh, just leave it and name the thing Trukkake

@tbillington

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@beatingyou01

2 ай бұрын

underrated comment

@MattBrownbill

2 ай бұрын

Ewww 😂

@Lordbignall

2 ай бұрын

Lmao 😂😂😂😂

@onetravdown

2 ай бұрын

😂😂

Ventilation Ventilation Ventilation is your best friend, condensation is a real nightmare on cold nights camping. Seek exert advice when coming too insulation and sound deadening, if you get it wrong it will be a nightmare.

@etiennepinaffaux7133

2 ай бұрын

This truck will be used one time.😊

This episode has all of the classic B is for Build elements that have made me a fan. You run into a challenge and share how you get through it. Thank you Chris for doing what you do.

1/4" plexi? Thats gonna be a royal pain to replace constantly.

@bradley3549

2 ай бұрын

100% should have been glass. No replacement for real glass in these cases.

@MichaelSmith-jv7zm

2 ай бұрын

I replaced all my camper windows with tinted plexi, 6-9 years ago. Still good.

@MikeAnderson-uj3oo

2 ай бұрын

Lexan.

@LtDan-ni5rw

2 ай бұрын

It's UV resistant. Should last quite a while assuming it doesn't get scratched.

@CMarkR

2 ай бұрын

Did he weld in the frames on the back after installing the windows? I’m no expert but it looks like that will make them very difficult to replace?

So to summarize. You built a black metal box. Which will get CRAZY hot in the sun. Then you glued all windows shut. What kind of death trap is this?

@bruceng4690

2 ай бұрын

Air conditioner considered?

@mikemocon8582

2 ай бұрын

Ya, black wasn't the best choice. Gonna be a torture chamber.

Remember to add flood lights for your back and side door. Nothing worst then having to use a torch to see the Steps. Most camp/parking spots arnt well lit

@dlux703

2 ай бұрын

The side door IS the steps, so in all that rainy/muddy Oregon weather, when you close it everything from your boots and the sky, comes inside and runs down the wall.

@jwalster9412

2 ай бұрын

​@@dlux703and that's why rust proofing has to be done right.

Chris is like the voice over / host for Oscar's channel.

@AW-yv9sq

2 ай бұрын

LOL for sure.

@allanombina

2 ай бұрын

remember, Chris got Cancer, so he cant really work like he used to. He's come a long way building his channel, it's okay if he has a team now.

@tatankawhiteplume6038

Ай бұрын

Lol

hey, speaking of insulation and condensation, I'm assuming you're planning on using this vehicle in a cold environment. It seems like there might be an issue with warm moist interior air making it through your interior paneling and insulation to the cold exterior metal where it will condensate and later mold/mildew I don't have an expert opinion, I just wanted to make sure you had that scenario in mind in your interior plan. :)

You need a set of lights in front of the solar panels. The lights above the panel are not visible as they are blocked by the solar panel.

@bruceng4690

2 ай бұрын

good

That water based paint usually takes weeks to fully cure and mineral spirits or similar can dissolve it, especially when its fresh. It might not touch the raptor liner. Spot test and see, may not need to re-raptor liner at all.

Painting it black has made it into a huge oven on wheels, black absorbs heat. That is why most campers and motorhomes have white roofs and are lighter in shades. The lighter the color the more the sun is deflected and thus less heat absorbed.

@jeffkoch8612

2 ай бұрын

He’s an idiot, and doesn’t care. It’s all clickbait

I have an RV and highly suggest painting the roof white. Black will be a massive nightmare in the summer heat. It’s super difficult to cool the cabin down and maintain a livable temperature. Nice work!

i like how you guys dont hide your mistakes with (youtube magic....) its not the end of the world you've just made more work for yourself however its a good learning experience. good luck boys

B is for BOLLO(#S!!!! One thing I like about this channel is that it does not shy away from showing the mistakes. Respect.

B is for Battling Paint Yet Again. Was Steel-It not an option here for the interior? Also just imagine if you went with red instead of white. Nobody would bother you out on the road because it would look like dried blood seeping from the cabin haha could name it "The Harvester".

@tejbergin6393

2 ай бұрын

Respectfully, this thing is definitely gonna harvest someone’s soul the first time it sees the highway💀

Super glad that with KZread etc you guys get something back for your pains. Thanks for be our learning curve

I don't advice you to glue the windows, they could work as ventilation and safety exits. Which could be a concern in such a tight space with electronics, batteries and insulation.

@benthebuilder6934

2 ай бұрын

Some of the windows seem like they will tilt open

What have you planned for (passive) ventilation? Or is it just an air-tight container where you can ...art yourselves to oblivion during the night?

@RealHooksy

2 ай бұрын

I don’t want to bring them down, but I predict that think is going to be like an oven in anything close to warm weather. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m guessing it’s going to be known as the hot box

I hope Oscar is at least a 50% partner in the profits from this channel 😂 poor man has spent the at least the past 2 months doing super dirty and tedious work fixing nasty mistakes between this and the whole boat ordeal

1:1 Acetone and Rustoleum has never failed me. It's easy and cheap. Very forgiving.

I work at a metal fab shop and the exact same thing has happened to us multiple times. Water based paint is generally a no go on steel

@gtaap0c

2 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing i dont have auto body experience but i know i paint all my metal with a oil based paint for rust prevention

airflow is the most important part of curing water based paint.

Upper lights on rear and sides connect to your running lights. No signaling. The more lights the better. You can see better and others can see you.

You guys do great work. There are a couple of comments you should really heed. It is without question, if you do not want issues later, that proper sanding and proper cleaning of the bare metal is essential before laying down the primer coat. Secondly, you should use the primers made for metal covering as they are chemically developed so that they react to form a bond with the metal assuring a reliable barrier and gives you peace of mind there will be no rust issues since the entire area is hidden. But then again if your just going to sell it, good to I guess. Once again enjoy watching you building your pcs of art.

Love the transparency! Fav channel on KZread!

Might actually be the silicone sealant you used to hold the windows in. This looks very familiar to what a large car manufacturer suffered when they replaced some windows in their paint booth… But shit but hey ho. You live and learn! Don’t let it get you down chap

IMO, orange side lights would be over the rear wheel well, at the top of the rear passenger door, then the side mirrors and then on the side of the front bumper. May be too many, but you'll be very visible, especially on those dark sections on the highway.

As a semi truck driver I know how important it is to have marker lights on the side that are linked to your turn signals. Because you are so long, if someone is beside you they won't see your front or rear signals if your trying to change lanes, so they may not let you merge. I would put them in the front bottom corner of the panel that is above your table slide outs. I would also put a set of roof lights on the front panel of the camper above the windows. They will be way more visible there than the angled ones at the very top that you installed.

Your investigation is spot on, even when I'm painting rooms I have windows open and then run a dehumidifier when drying.

Water base paint comes off really easy with just water for future reference

Acid etch primer first for steel?

@fredrikandersson3885

Ай бұрын

Nope 😂

I love how this channel is pretty much "hey, let's see if we can do a thing while pretending there's nobody around to ask even the most basic questions."

Can’t wait for this build to be finished

Dont forget your reflectors for when the vehicle is off

A good sanding . And not being cheap. You should have used more Raptor liner inside . That would be better at sound deadening The lesson here is don't be cheap !

Love love to see you interview Chris fix to get a breakdown of all the work that goes into one of his videos

Yo Chris - Light Reflector Stripes. Great work

Live and learn, right? Great video, and I appreciate the lower music mix volume too. All the best, keep on building and we'll keep on watching.

@adamccathey

2 ай бұрын

Hear hear for the lower music levels!

way to stay positive. my initial reaction was "omg this would be soul crushing."

Oh man! That sucks! Glad you were able to overcome it!

Can´t you use a high pressure washer and wash the white paint off the outside. Should not affect the raptor liner but probably flake off the white paint.

Use a toothbrush on the raptor liner to clean the paint off it.

@LeninVera

2 ай бұрын

The raptor liner itself wasn't fully cured either. Curious if it will come off

I would strongly recommend reflective tape somewhere on the back say you're going down the highway and your alternator dies

I agree with your assessment. I recommend using a floor dryer blower inside the truck cab and supplement it with high speed fans leaving the back doors open. For the exterior paint, stay away from the wire wheel. Use the less aggressive rubber erasing compound wheel for removing stickers

i say a long red led strip down the middle of the wall from front to back

@roberino84

2 ай бұрын

the small strip

I think the white paint drips make it looks so much cooler!

For the side lights you could also just get side mirrors with LED lights. It’s way easier and would add another modern touch to the truck.

Honestly, in terms of Markerlights on the top I would have used larger Truck Markerlights, possibly "classic" Bullet shaped ones on the Front and larger Oval shaped ones on the rear and for the sides. But then again I love going wild with Markerlights on larger Trucks, to the point it's almost too many, if there is such a thing.

When you said you use the paint for the walls to paint metal, I was like that surely will not end well.

@PierceTrey

2 ай бұрын

Same

Why didn't you use primer

Let this be a lesson metal needs to be primed before topcoating. Especially with water based paint primer is a must. You are correct about ventilation.

For the side lights, I'd put them on the side just above the drawer instead of on the forward facing facet and the top one would be basically in the same place you were already thinking. This would allow it to be better seen from the side.

As far as I know, Water based paints are for concrete. You need a thiner based paint for any metal. Even so, you need to degrease the metal or clean with acetone.(alcohol might do) And the best first coat is always rust converter.

You really need to consult with more experts and do more research before jumping into projects your not proficient in. You've made alot, alot of avoidable mistakes on every project. Very jank. Honestly starting to feel like one of those junkyard build a car in 6hrs type shows where they're good at welding and only have basic knowledge of everything else. Turns out a cobbled mess that has tons of unexpected issues that make it barely work. No offense, want you to succeed. I know it's fun to jump into things but you gotta hold yourself back and know your experience limits so the project comes out well.

I would recommend going inside the camper and actually applying sealer to the cracks especially the ones that leaked the paint outside and I would do this before cleaning the paint off of the outside and definitely before you repaint the inside

When doing new things, expect surprises... lol. You guys either win or you learn. Can't wait to see the finished product in action.

That's not going to be an oven.

I thought the biggest catastrophe was painting the truck to resemble a serial killer's portable office.

@jerrywilcox9890

2 ай бұрын

How does the painting make it look like a serial killer's office.you make zero sense 😂😂.

Love the build, that thing is going to be bad ass!! As for the side marker lights maybe integrate them near the tables so you can use the same wiring for those and for indirect ground lighting near the tables?

Oh my lord. Seeing this gave me that sickly feeling I get when things in my projects go wrong. So sorry for you guys!

I new and said it would be a disaster

I would suggest adding a leveling system for when parked and throw in an over cab roof area vertical slider that raises a skylight that can be vented (maybe soft sides) with panorama ceiling curtain like the new glass roof cars. More head room in the bed and ventilation, that trucks going to be an oven in black that eats power so venting the high point will help you cool it. Move the solar panels on the roof further back

Chris also before you do the interior walls you need to think about exterior lighting connected to the house battery to illumine the outside of the camper when parked or camping. It would be so much easier to do the wiring and installation now then after.

The amber marker lights on the front corner help a lot with on coming traffic. If you look on the factory bed that you guys took off the lights are facing at a 45 degree angle front and back from the tire. They are meant to be that way so that they are pointed at the on coming driver.

Before interior panelling starts to go in, have you thought about a rear view camera system? Great work by the way👍🏻

this paint problem has happened to me too. what a nightmare. I learned that tou should self etch prime with solvent based paint fist, then use the water based paint in sections leaving it to dry. Indeed the humidity caused by the paint will thin the wet paint in enclosed spaces. it sucks, but without failure we cannot learn. 😊

Wow what a comeback fr. In aerospace we protect plexiglass used on the plane with a thin coat of wax. I like the idea of being seen from the front just for the sake of making sure people know how wide you are at night. Fun thought for the OEM roof lights: rewire them to an aux switch and replace the lights with some super bright pod lights or even the rectangular ones. It is meant for exploring so why not 😅

Love when Chris says we an it’s Oscar doing the work.

Get the running board lights that add turn signals. Less holes in the body means there's less chance of leaks.

I think you're right about the paint because I used the same type of paint on the bottom of my Ranger to stop it from rusting, and it dried just fine with an occasional drip.

Experience is the best teacher! There’s no success where there’s no failure!

Hey Chris. I do trailer safeties and repairs as part of my job. Your triple ID lights are part of your running light system, as they are just counted as clearance lights

Cool build guys!

I feel your pain. Having spent an entire day redoing what took me the whole previous day. 😊

Love you guys! Ignore the haters, keep pushing forward!!

I hope you are able to fix the Raptor Liner paint contamination. In my experience, the stuff is unremovable and unreparable if it ever gets discolored, gouged in the rocks or you ever have to fix body damage. I know it goes on easy compaired to paint, but I've never understood the appeal. That said, my preference isn't worth a cent on someone else's rig. I love your builds and learn a lot from your channel. Thanks for keeping it real!

Definitely should do a comprehensive leak test before starting the interior walls.

I have used black sealer primer on bedliner before. In Arizona, the sun would cook that stuff grey in a few years. Simple topcoat with the sealer, good to go for a few more years.

You could have hid your mistake, but instead cared enough of your viewers to share an embarrassing misstep. It's not just content at that point it's character. Thank you for the honesty and humility to share not only the good, but the bad.

@commonsense7754

2 ай бұрын

lol how in hell is he gonna hide that 😂😂😂 he also won’t be able to hide the frame and box self destructing due to being solid welded with zero reinforcement. B will always be for butcher.

“Some things you just don’t know, until you know.” Have to find out the hard way occasionally. Sweet build, this is going to turn out awesome.

I would put the marker lights in the center Seam going down the side of the truck. That way, you could put one in the angle above the fuel cap. And down the side.

What a mess but incredible recovery! Got my ticket for Friday hope to meet ya. Should be a blast.

Just a small suggestion brother. Add a long reflector in front of your solar panel to protect it from flying road debris from vehicles and birds…lol

I so feel you guys. You take the risks, we learn for free. Power on!!!!!

B is for Bad Luck ! B is for Big Lessons ! would be fun to see on merch with what's learned :)

Old school B is for Build paint problem, I’m getting nostalgic 😂 Thanks for sharing boys, what a bummer.

Dab the raptorliner on with a sponge for a better effect.

LOL I did this EXACT SAME THING! I know what your issue was. It was too cold when you painted. Anything under 60 degrees for something like that is going to setup right. I painted my exterior security door of my house in the winter. The metal felt cold but the house was warm. Well that cold air on the panel made the paint "sag". If you have a few little spots, they call those runs. When the entire wall seems to slide down it is a great indicator that temp was too low for the amount of paint that was applied. If that was sitting in the hot and hot as balls inside, you could do that same thing and get completely different results.

Honestly the same mistake was made on the inside that was made on the outside. Bare metal can be sanded with 180 grit, ETCHING PRIMER, then paint. I almost wish i could give Chris a crash course on this stuff so he could avoid these mistakes.

Some people cant understand that even with all the talent in the world, with out a vision on how to put that talent to good used, you got nothing, Oscar is great, but thanks to the opportunity he was given is that hes mastering all bis skills, and a graceful person dont bite the ha d that feed them. It's about the bigger picture, not just the accomplishments along the way.

After peeling the drips, use mineral spirits. It should clean off the raptor liner

For the bottom center running lights you can 3D print a holder that angles the light sidewards...

Try cleaning the paint trace line with metholated spirits (metho). Metho dissolves plastic (water based) paint. I use it for cleaning my painting ladder to remove paint spots after painting interior ceilings and walls.