Man, this must be so stressful on you. I didn't like how on the last video comments said you separated too soon, and you were just trying to do as they said and now this happened. Your gut feeling is always right, you know your piggies better than anyone. I hope you're doing okay and that you're not feeling burnt out by your boy piggies.

@ThePigRoom

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I really tried to stick through with these two bondings to the point of blood being drawn because people kept telling me I messed it up with Winston and Kai and should have kept them together. This just goes to show that you know your pigs better than anyone else!

@user-vz3up1fl5u

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePigRoom It really reminds me of when I first tried to find my rabbit a friend and the bonding was going really badly but the rescue kept pushing me to keep going with them. My rabbit ended up just like poor Winston and I felt so guilty. Thankfully he's happily bonded with a different rabbit now. I just hope you're not beating yourself up about it, you're an exellent pet dad and bonding is just really really hard, and there's so much advice and info out there that it becomes overwhelming

@lydiadouglas7623

4 ай бұрын

​@@ThePigRoom❤

That was textbook bonding on your part. You fought the urge to separate, until it was necessary. Well done. If owners truly want their piggies together, this is a great vid on when you need to intervene and when you don't. Nipping, chasing, chattering, rumbling, mounting.. all normal. Teeth sinking into skin, tearing of fur, blood.. in comes toweled hand!

Glad you put the disclaimer. If only piggy bonding for males wasnt so risky.

@daria7690

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunetly it’s not only for males. It happens with females sometimes too. I had the same situation while introducing third guinea pig to my two others. Happened a lot when I was helping others with females (I’m temprorary home for piggies, had a lot of introducings for both females, males and harems).

I can imagine how stressful that was for you being the piggie dad I was holding my breath half the time boy bonding is no joke 💙

@user-nl2nv2pc5x

9 ай бұрын

I can't imagine how stressful it's doing together male I know females are so much better

Poor babies but it's great you show reality on how Bonding can go.

Aww thanks so much for being so honest about the bonding, so sorry it didn’t work out though. Hope you and the pigs are alright though! 💙

Thats insane my boys bonded the moment i put them togather in the cage. I got lucky lol my first boy was pop corning and happy he got a new friend.

@piggieadventures5938

2 жыл бұрын

That's nice

@ThatAnimalHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Same with mine! I was quite uneducated and didn’t even bond them though. I just placed them in their cage and they never left each other’s sides till this day (almost 1 year now :D)

@annieacevedocruz

2 жыл бұрын

I had Guinea pigs in the 90’s and had no idea bonding was a thing. 🤦🏻‍♀️ I was lucky too, my boys were awesome.

@paigehutchinson6777

2 жыл бұрын

No same here, I feel like it’s just straight luck. I added a baby to my older boars and during the bonding session Baby just wiggled in between the other big ones as they munched hay together

I feel so bad for some of your alone pigs that wont bond with each other i know your trying your best and there happy but its just sad

Seems to me Winston was predominantly the aggressor throughout the session and it escalated with Ezra having to defend himself and drawing blood... Winston was being very dominant, lunging and posturing significantly more - he might just be a solo pig.

@rosvokisu

2 жыл бұрын

There's no such thing as a solo pig. Maybe winston would do fine neutered with a couple of girls

@tiaslays255

Жыл бұрын

I have a solo pig cause he always fights everyone but he is so skiddish and depressed. Idk what to do

@amyamarie9615

Жыл бұрын

@@tiaslays255 you could get him neutered if he’s still fairly young and then get him a girlfriend they have way better turnouts :)

@GammaSierra

Жыл бұрын

@@tiaslays255 I agree with Amya Marie. Males naturally get along way better with females. When you take him in to get neutered, look for a vet that specializes in Guinea pigs and other small pets. There are many dog and cat vets that will offer the service with little to no experience.

@CeruleanMoon

Жыл бұрын

I have a boar who seems to fight with everyone too. He’s just so aggressive! He has a really big personality and I’m worried that getting him neutered would change this.

I am really glad you posted this. It is ver educational. I cant imagine how stressful this is for you. I was terrified bonding my girls and as you know it works a lot better with girls.

i have two females and i know this is no where near the anxiety you’re experiencing but recently i had to cut their nails for the first time and cut the quick. she was bleeding rapidly but thankfully i had flour ready so i dipped her paw in and that stopped the bleeding quickly. This was my first experience with guinea pig horror and this video helped me open my eyes to how much more i have to learn.

Reminds me of when my godmother asked for my help bonding their boys. All seem well through the grids but even after a buddy bath for good measure, there was blood drawn. I had never experienced it so I was so scared! Luckily we found good bonding buds for both and they have wonderful homes. I wish you luck with all the bachelors. Definitely suggest seeing if you could find a baby boar. I bonded my males that way; one baby, one adult. It was easier than my girls!! Of course there’s also the option of neutering and giving them a wife or three

This is my biggest fear. One of my three girls had to be separated for surgery and healing and her bond broke with one of her sisters. They're both quite dominant and I'm terrified this bonding session won't be successful. The first time I bonded them one of them bit the heck out of me, like really really bad...

How did he sware its a family friendly channel!???!!!

Wow, this just proves how lucky I am with my boys! I have a whole herd (5 piggies) of entire males that live fairly peacefully together. They occasionally bicker, but it never leads to anything serious. I pray that it stays that way!

@daria7690

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a big win!

Jees that is so dang stressful. I have two male guinea pigs that are brothers so they're bonded but I hope their bond never breaks because jees, that stressed me out. I'm sorry it didn't work out 😬. But kudos to you for giving it a shot and wanting the best for them!

@Galemor1

Жыл бұрын

Never separate them, or bring a female into the home, just the smell could set them off. There are 2 pigs being given away in my area, where both have lost their cagemate/brother, and reading up, it's seems like they can suddenly turn and it usually turn deadly.

I give up so quickly with bonding. Any tornado and I can't stand watching them fight further. So stressful! 😣

This was hard to watch. After they fought that second time, you could tell they really didn't like each other. I don't care if blood wasn't drawn...I hate that rule. You can just tell if piggies are going to get along or not. Winston was definitely the aggressor. I'm sure he'll be happy as a solo pig.

This is why I have such a tough time bonding my bunnies. My bunnies like each other through the bars but face to face they start fighting! It stresses me out so much that I've just given up trying to bond them. They seem happy to live side by side and interact that way

@catmommippy2403

2 жыл бұрын

Have you watched 101 rabbits step by step bonding video? This helped me but my bunnies too fought after being bonded and I’m gunna have to rebond them. Best of luck with you and your buns, I think at least they have a neighbor to socialize with, even if they fight when not separated by bars.

It’s so sad to have to separate them. Hope you’re all good 🙏❤️❤️

When I’ve tried bonding I use a square plastic bucket instead of a towel & scoop one of the pigs up to avoid getting bitten through the towel. Super easy to scoop em up in that square bucket the one I used was about 6 inches tall & about 12 -14 inches long . It worked great & said pig was happy as hell getting scooped out of the wrestling ring .

I thought bonding my girls was stressful 😵‍💫 So glad you’re calmer than I would be in that situation. I just bonded two new females to my herd of 6 females yesterday and they’re doing good 🙏

@paigehutchinson6777

2 жыл бұрын

Omg so you have an eight sow herd 😧

I have three boars, it’s like a royal rumble sometimes when I give them free range with each other. In fact the only time they usually get along together is during feeding. But surprisingly, when I keep them separated with a partition, they tend to lay next to each other against the partition. So they actually enjoy each others company so long as they’re not completely exposed to each other lol

Aww Winston. Those two definitely don't like each other! You did a good job.

When I bonded my first to pigs back before I have 19 of them, I put the second one in their little play pen - NOT THEIR CAGE! And I put a tunnel for them to go through in it and they were so happy that they got stuck in the tunnel but they were okay! And nothing/ no one was hurt!

Had to go to the emergency room and get stiches after trying bonding pigs. I tried stopping them with towels and one of em jumped on my hand and bit me so hard i needed 6 stiches bcs of it. Bonding is so sad when the pigs dont match together...

@ThePigRoom

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that must have hurt! Wouldn’t be my first time that I’ve gotten hit. Thankfully no stitches (yet lol)

@panayiotispp

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePigRoom Yeah good to use more than one towels around your hand cuz jesus you really dont expect how strong their teeth are. The entire hospital was laughing at me when i told them i got bit by a guinea pig.😭😂

Bless you :( you've been trying so hard sorry that it hasn't been working out, you are giving them their best lives despite the situation

Omg, that was so stressful to watch, thank you for the sharing the video, it’s super informative

I’m sorry the bondings didn’t work out but I’m excited to see what you’ve got planned for vision

Sounds like it’s time to get some of those crazy boys neutered!!

I knew it was gunna get wild when there was a disclaimer at the start!it’s good to show the reality of what Guinea pigs can do. It’s often unexpected to see our adorable little potatos doing such things, but they are animals and they can get agro with each other! Hope your piggy and hand heal quickly!

So sorry it didn’t work out and that you got hurt too. I literally was talking to the video: “come on boys, please just get along” 💜🐹💜🐹 big hugs to you and your piggies

Excellent bonding video! I'm so sorry to hear your piggies didn't work out together!

Sending love! Looking forward to the vision update! 😛😛😛

thank you so much for this video! I've been struggling with bonding my male pig from the very start, so it was relieving to see a similiar harsh experience. im still gaining confidence to redo the bonding after half a year of them living together through grids. it actually made me a little nervous seeing you use just a towel to break the fight, since i got hurt even using gloves lol

Good heavens you are one beautiful guinea guru, it's almost blinding tbh

My boars grew up together and now they are in their hormone/puberty time so I’m nervous about them fighting but so far nothing bad has happened

I give you kudos for trying! I had three boys in three cages, no bonding worked. Positive vibes!

so sad it didnt work out :( this makes me very grateful that my piggie boys are pretty calm. i am prepared for the worst though. i hope Winston is feeling better!

I love your videos I just got my first Guinea pig about a month ago and your videos have really helped me!

I feel so extremely lucky I bonded my first boys a few months ago and since then they’ve had no aggression even first meeting they only tried to hump and squeak at each other, they get on so well they’ll are always pop Corning together 🥺 but you’re the reason I learnt more about bonding before I did it so thank you x

I don’t even have Guinea pigs But I just love your channel! Alyssa brought me to your channel y’all are the best ❤️❤️🐖🥔

@ThePigRoom

2 жыл бұрын

❤️

the second pig bonding time lapse they look like snakes slithering around- also thanks for showing this raw footage💕

Wheeks in between curses lol

I loved the video and am so glad you share the reality! My guinea pigs say WHEEK! To yours :)

I was very lucky with my guinea pigs cause I've only ever had 2 so far, both males, and they hit it off right off the bat, they are amazing together

It’s okay I support you and your decision cuz boy piggies really are hard💖✨

I have 2 female guinea pigs 1 is 5 yrs old that I bought a few years back. Cage mate passed a little over a year ago and thought it would be great to get her a friend. Adopted the other which is 1 yrs old and I have tried several times to bond them but same result lashing out, a lot of teeth chatter and a few tornados, tried baths and then the blood was drawn and said that's it as they will have to live separately next to each other and they are ok with that. I love all of your video's and piggies . Definitely gives me more ideas and inspiration. I’m sorry the bonding didn’t work out but I’m excited to see what you’ve got planned next!

Try single males with females. I think it will go much better

I really feel for you Austin. You cannot please everyone (humans) and it is so easy for people who are commenting saying ''you should have done this'' They ate your pigs and YOU know your pigs best and your instinct was right the 1st time. I was rather separate before blood was drawn and risk a pairing than risk a pigs life. Some pigs can be seriously affected from a vicious attack and will not bond to any future partner. Just follow your instinct like you was doing and dont let anyone else try to pressure you into doing something different, while they sit at home typing on a keyboard. xxxxx

Yikes. I got bit and it got infected in a day and I had to get surgery to relieve the pressure. Glad you're okay, bonding is so scary. Terrified of my girls right now ):

Oof wow, that was stressful!! Sorry you had such a rough day, boy pigs can be emotionally draining :( I'm a veterinary tech who works mostly in Emergency, and moving forward I would definitely recommend keeping a 2% Chlorhexidine solution and some empty 3 or 6cc syringes on hand. Salt water is painful on open wounds and not an effective disinfectant in comparison. Dilute the chlorhex until pale blue and use the syringe to gently flush the wounds. Should be able to pick up both at a feed store (TSC, Agway, etc). Wish you luck moving forward. Neuter may be a viable option, there are a lot of vets in SE PA who are very familiar treating pigs!

It was almost as if somebody said, “Let’s get ready to rumble.”

Wear a pot holder to prevent you getting hurt.

I just got two make Guinea pigs that this girl couldn’t keep. I got got blessed that they get along together 😅

I'd like to recommend you have a dust pan you can shove between them giving you more control.

I'm 10 seconds in and I'm so nervous to watch this!!

Haven't finished yet I'm only at 8:17 but... POV: you finished your school early just so you could watch this. Couldn't be me😂

Bonding can be soooo stressful. I am very fortunate to have a trio of male guinea pigs that get along (which I know is rare!) But they need about twice the minimum cage size - 21 square feet. Once while cleaning their cage, I put them in a smaller basket altogether, and one drew blood. I felt terrible; thankfully they've gotten along well since - but they're always separated when I clean the cage!

I experienced this with my dogs, both males from the same litter. It broke my heart because I loved both of them, in the end I had to rehome the more social one. 💔

it should have been called quits after the first tornado!

@ThePigRoom

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone told me to keep it going until blood was drawn so I wanted to try out this method so everyone could see that I tried. Sometimes tornados are okay just as long as there is no blood drawn.

@autumngrace.

2 жыл бұрын

In his last video, people told him he quit way to early. In this video, he didn’t quit early enough. Just let Austin bond his pigs, he didn’t ask for critique. What’s done is done.

@zebbikaia

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Fitz, why do you think that?

@fitzguineavision

2 жыл бұрын

@@zebbikaia I'm not going to get into that on this thread. If you want my opinion about something you can look me up on my channel and you can contact me that way.

@zebbikaia

2 жыл бұрын

@@fitzguineavision sad

I never let it get to blood drawn anymore. One of my boys almost lost any eye when I did.

I WOULD love to know where you got your fleece liners, I’m new

I got bit during a bonding by one of my girls in panic cxx

Why not try neutering your pigs and maybe getting them a girlfriend. I have a male and female pair up top and they're just having a great time always. I feel like my male Tommy is a happy-go-lucky pig now and is happier now more than ever. I tried making a trio with my two other boys but it didn't work. And my other two boys bond is starting to break too so I might have to get them neutered as well. Which I'm thinking of doing the same for them . I know the stress of it because I've upgraded their cage I've done it all and still nothing. I'm just tired of the fighting and bickering back and forth I feel like they would do better with female pairing. Good luck Austin I believe in you.

I sorry the bond did not work and i like that you showed us the reality of bonding guinea pigs. Great vid as always sending lot sof love from my pig to yours

@ThePigRoom

2 жыл бұрын

I think it was necessary to keep in the clips with the pigs fighting and me cursing during it cause it’s just the reality of it!

@piggieadventures5938

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePigRoom yeah I think so to

I bled pretty badly from her but she is so sweet she was just scared xxx

@charlottelake2646

2 жыл бұрын

It was a an all female bonding and she was aggressive but it all worked out xx

I kinda thought that Winston and an other playful pig would work also you helped me see how boys can be . I am just a 9 who waches the pig room and guinea pig Jungle and gives my pig the best life I possible give them.😊😊😊😊😊😊

Wow ... I have never seen a pig bite so hard as to get launched up like that . I'm sorry buddy I know that had to hurt

Not going to lie, I flinched hard once you got nabbed through the towel. But like you said, boys will just be boys and you can only hope for the best.

Winston and Ezra was my best guess to be bonded ☹️. It was really stressful. I have 3 single boys and I wouldn't want to pass through something like that we witness. Congrats on trying though

Hi 👋. You were sure-fire-quick separating the boys! Well done on your first aid 👏. You are absolutely right in saying piggies aren't kiddies pets. I would hate that to happen had a child put two piggies together that had never met then go out to play!! 🥶 Hope the boys are OK and are healing after their battle 🙏 And your hand too, ouch! 😫 Keep up the good work and keep Safe.

Oh wow they really went for it between Winston and Ezra!! That must’ve been super stressful omg. I got nipped for the first time doing nail clips the other day and that hurt like a mf. I have three boys and it really is a miracle it works and I’m probably never going to do all boars again. It really is sooooo stressful for us as piggy parents to see them go at it like that and to think they’re unhappy or uncomfortable. Keeping you and your piglets in my thoughts

@ThePigRoom

2 жыл бұрын

Piggies might be small, but those teeth are powerful!!

This was stressful for me to watch so I can only imagine how it was for you. I think you handled it very well, I would’ve been balling my eyes out!!! Im feeling a pit in my stomach watching this I’m so sorry:/ I know you must feel disappointed but maybe it’s for the best! Try to think positive in this situation. Again, thanks for sharing!

I admittedly avoided getting boy pigs because of the potential dominance issues, so I have a group of 4 girls :) I mean, I've had rumble strutting but no actual fighting.

@paigehutchinson6777

2 жыл бұрын

No fr. I have three boys and the chances of them all getting along was so low it’s literally a miracle they all love each other. Idk how lucky I could be twice tho lmao so I’ll probably never do all boars again

@demi8165

2 жыл бұрын

I totally get it. I got a male guineapig from a friend that neglected him so of course i couldnt choose a girl. After awhile i got another pig to bond the boys (at the time i did not realize the dominance issues with boys) so after quantine i put them together and they got into a serious fight and started to tornado. 2 weeks ago i tried again and the pair worked out. Sometimes it never works and it takes alot of patience, i was lucky.

@margaret796

2 жыл бұрын

That was my plan at first aswell. I had 2 girls to begin with. Decided I needed another pig with them and couldn’t find any single female for adoption, but I found a single neutered male. So then I had 2 girls and 1 boy. Then I felt I needed more pigs as I had the space and there are so many needing homes. Planned on adopting a trio of females. Then I fell in love with these two older boys. So I guess you can say the all girl plan didn’t work out lol. I have 2 girls and 3 boys, but I love them all so much. I haven’t had a fight ever. I have had some rumbling (mostly between one of my girls and the neutered boy) but other than that everyone lives in harmony

yup my boy pig bit the crap outta me my towel fell out 😩 wont be bonding mines no time soon

Me too my two male guinea pigs do not get along. I had to separate them. 😔

their bites hurt so bad like i feel is our fingers would be smaller they could bite them off. which is why when i have guest my male bruno bites so i warn keep hands away from his butt or lower face he only likes head.

I swear bonding is more stressful than exam week. I bonded my two sisters with a neutered boy, it was successful but man I almost lost all my hair from stress. Every rumble and chase was so stressful. I had done so much research and couldn’t have been more prepared but oh. My. Goodness. I hope I don’t have to do it again any time soon 😞🤚

Have you tried the method they use for bunnies where they are in a tight space first until they're used to each other? they put them in a carrier and take them in the car so they're too busy thinking about the car and stress. Mainly because in bigger spaces they claim territory.

@daria7690

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not the thing with piggies. It can get nasty as fuck. At first you need to give them bigger space and than making it smaller.

I’m due to bond 8 girls on Saturday/Sunday dreading it 🤦‍♀️ my last one was the bad one. 5 bonding I think I have done now xxx

Bunnies at least, have extremely good memory. If two have fought bad and hurt each other, I’ve found that the odds that they will be able to be bonded in the future is slim.

Hi Austin, sorry to hear that the bonding process with males did not work out. I had a very similar situation with with 2 of males(Herbie and Hugo). I ended up getting both of them neutered and they lived side by side in a cc cage with divider down the middle and they got along through the bars. In October 2021, Herbie passed away so Hugo was left alone with no friend.( forgot to mention that I have 11 guinea pigs). One of my pair females, I managed to bond Hugo with and they get along well. They been together still October 2021 to today and beyond. I would recommend you to try and get one of your single males neutered and wait 6-8 weeks after the surgery to introduce them to female guinea pig to see if that will work. Sorry again for the bonding process not working. I felt the same way when bonding guinea pigs it can be nervous time and process. Don't worry about thing , one day your single males have a friend together or through the bars but the most important friend they have is you as you are kind and caring and loving towards them. Hopefully what I have recommended helps . And all the love from me and my piggies from the UK.

I had Guinea pigs as a kid I took super good care of them until they died from old age

Next time maybe use a spatula instead of fleece to separate fighting pigs? I do so while bonding rats. I'm sorry to hear the bond didn't work out :((

@Koko._.pebbles

2 жыл бұрын

Most people when bunny bonding use a dust pan lol just thought that was funny

This just happened to me. Last night I bonded 2 of my boys and they drew blood. I started crying and I was terrified

@ThePigRoom

2 жыл бұрын

It’s so scary seeing our babies fight 😞

I think because you got the piggies that have been in bad situations, I was told that they are just like humans it causes a mental mess up in the mind!! Just treat them with a lot of love!! And try to spend a little time with them and with time it should cause a healing!!

@ThePigRoom

2 жыл бұрын

I agree as well. A lot of my pigs have some rough back stories so that could explain why they are the way they are 😅

@daria7690

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePigRoom their backgrounds unfortunetly don’t help. Pigs have good memory and they remember bad stuff that happened to them…

I just rescued a 2 week old guinea pig from a pet store I'm aware she needs a friend I have another guinea pig and I'm curious how to introduce them as I don't want the baby hurt could you do a video explaining it or is it the same as any other guinea pig bonding?

When I first got pigs, everything I looked up said boys and girls are pretty much the same and both are great for beginner pig owners. We ended up with girls and I am so glad we did, because boys are definitely more of a challenge in most cases.

I know with dogs if they have a fight their cortisol levels elevate even after the fight and the recommendation is to keep them on their own for a day or two after. I wonder if it's the same with guinea pigs and if Ezra had elevated cortisol from the first combination leading into the second

Heh. I have to wear leather gloves when trying to bond rabbits Bc of the risk. I’ve had one latch on to my hand. Barely ever does a bite not draw blood. They did that exact thing when bonding. I spent probably an hour doing the bond for it to fail. It was unneutered male mating though 😅 so that’s probably what happened

Ooh an interesting thought, I wonder if you could come across a spayed female for your boys? I personally wouldn’t spay my own but if you can adopt one who already had it done that might be helpful!

thank you for showing the reality’s of male bonding! I love your videos and honesty. I’m curious why you chose to keep going after two fights? seems more of a risk then reward to keep going after that. I’ve never had to do any bonding so i’m just curious.

@Koko._.pebbles

2 жыл бұрын

He kept going because the comments in his last bonding were hating on him saying he didn’t let them go long enough.

It’s not easy poor thing xx

What about neutering one of your lone boars and putting him to the girl group or getting him a girl? Instead of getting another lone boy and then realizing he doesn't get along with the other boars you could give one of your boys a harem. In our local rescues they always pair them up (female x neutered male) or will let a boar have a harem and that usually does the trick. I mean, that's one less lonely pig.

@crnrm15534

2 жыл бұрын

I think that’s what he’s going to do with vision

😱😱😱😱😱

Is your Guinea pig OK?? What did you do to clean up your guinea pig bite mark??

I know this is an old video but I have a boar who’s pretty aggressive with other pigs. People have suggested getting him neutered but would doing so change his personality? He’s got such a big one and everyone loves him the way he is.

@dailyremindertoshutup3670

4 ай бұрын

Nope that's a myth it won't change his personality!

😢 aww 1:31

You should try to bond Kye and Ezra