The acting gives me chills every time - there is clear and present danger in the way he stalks around her, talks down to her, the way her eyes follow him and she loses her humor. There's no music, there's just the reality of his anger and her fear. As a woman, I feel fully immersed because I think a lot of us have experienced fear at the hand's of a man. (And this is just my own opinion so no one needs to go off in the replies, but) her being a woman of color I think really adds to their interaction and the seriousness of what this marriage means for her. Again, the acting is really superb and it makes this scene really stand out!

I'll just stick with both the 1946 & 2012 film adaptations of Great Expectations. Even the modernized 1998 film version is way better than this new adaptation. This one is just ugh.

You two....really are a ray of sunshine aren't you.

I’m gonna be honest I never really liked learning “Great Expectations” in school, and this series has made me want to reread the book to see if I still feel the same way, I enjoyed watching the show.

Awful.

@DragonHeart613

Жыл бұрын

The 1946 & 2012 film adaptations are infinitely superior.

@simplymia3153

Жыл бұрын

Agreed Mr Drummle is truly an awful character.

Doesn’t seem to stick to the script? Maybe I’ve misremembered the book but don’t remember the dialogue about foxes

@LindaC616

Жыл бұрын

No, I don't think it does at all 😅

@RnBReworked

Жыл бұрын

Is there a scene in the book where she asks for anal sex? Or did I misread the book?

So what the hell was that?

Still a better love story than Twilight.

@DragonHeart613

Жыл бұрын

Everything is better than Twilight. This is the least faithful adaptation of Great Expectations & yet it's still much preferable to Twilight.

I never wanted to read the book until this show, I wish pip and her had more scenes together

I love Great Expectations and all the adaptations - this series was brilliant i thought - Mr Jaggers was my favourite

@DragonHeart613

Жыл бұрын

This new adaptation does not compare to all the much better ones that came before.

I watched the whole show when it came out. It's hard to believe, but this is the BEST SCENE in the whole series. I'll explain why. For some reason, the creators decided that all the dialogues in the series should be prescribed either as a skirmish or as a threat. It was terribly annoying while watching, but it was in this scene that this approach worked. Because the Dramlle here exudes danger. It is clear to us that if Estella marries him, she will have a hard life. The source of the threat is absolutely organic here. You can't say that for many other scenes in that show. (Pumblechook participates in a BDSM game, God forgive me...)

I dont know who this girl is supposed to be playing but she isnt Estella as written by Dickens. Just wrong.

I truly hated drummle in this adaption, and when he got out his whip (at 3:36) I was scared for Estella. I wonder if Mr Drummle was as cruel and horrible in the the CD book.

@vellaris9249

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but but it happens so to speak "behind the scenes". The book reveals more of his ignorant side

Why is the main character black? Isn’t the book written in the 18th century? Historically speaking this just doesn’t make sense

@sylezjusz

Жыл бұрын

Guess they want black people to share the responsibility for Britain's colonialism by "reimagining" how the place looked in XIX century. And this under the guise of diversity and inclusion. Clever stuff.

@therussiancomicbookgeek

Жыл бұрын

@@sylezjusz it’s just weird since the transAtlantic slave trade was happening at this exact time

@bostonblackie9503

Жыл бұрын

​@@sylezjusz Britain put an end to slavery around the world which started 10,000 years before the birth of Christ and included people of all races and colours. Most of us are decended from slaves. Costing in money £20 million in early 18 hundreds money. 15 million they borrowed from the Rothchilds which the British taxpayer finally paid off plus interest in 2015/16. Colonialism only came after the Atlantic Slave Trade which lasted a few hundred years, with the Portuguese taking more slaves than anyone, was over. New drugs allowed Europeans, who bought slaves from Africans on the coast, to go into Africa. Before that they had no immunity to tropical diseases. Unfortunately today slavery, mostly woman and children, is back. Estimated to be 50 million. Yet no one does anything! The British, as did Western Europe learned from the invasion of Rome, who enslaved the peoples of Europe both at home and those taken to Rome. At the time bloody awful but 1000 years later the West rules the world. If the Romans had gone east it would be Easter Europe and not the West.

@DodderingOldMan

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, well spotted! Also, according to everything I've been able to find out, this whole thing didn't even happen! There never was a guy called Pip who came into a great fortune from a mysterious benefactor! And if you look closely, you'll see that everything on the screen has been filmed using high definition cameras that weren't even around when this supposedly took place! It's all a complete sham! But yeah, the skin colour of one of the characters. That's the main thing that's wrong. Of course. Yeah.

@therussiancomicbookgeek

Жыл бұрын

@@DodderingOldMan look bro it’s an adoption of an 18th century novel in a historical period where a black people would have been seen as less than human. Her people where literally being sold as livestock at the time. As an adoption the casting simply doesn’t make any sense.

This adaptation is so meh

Wow

Color blind casting is making a mockery of itself.

I think I’ll like this more than I thought. It is certainly more intriguing than watching Gwenyth Paltrow’s icy aloofness while being simped over for nothing more than the objectification of her character

@DragonHeart613

Жыл бұрын

If you're looking for a quality adaptation of Great Expectations, I highly recommend both the 1946 film version from famed director David Lean (Lawrence of Arabia, The Bridge on The River Kwai) and the 2012 film version starring Ralph Fiennes, Helena Bonham Carter & Holiday Grainger. Those two are the best in my opinion.

she isn't Estella

Awful adaptation...

@DragonHeart613

Жыл бұрын

The 1946 & 2012 film versions are both infinitely better than this one.

The people complaining about black characters really are stupid.

@NPC--666

Жыл бұрын

People wanting everything to be 'blackwashed' are racist

@rjjrdq

Жыл бұрын

I know, it's nuts. Next thing you know they'll be whining about Brad Pitt playing the lead in the next Malcom X movie.

What’s this? Somehow I don’t remember this from the book. At all. Also, unrelated, but sorry to say, no way could she have been black.

Easily the rottenest production ever of this marvellous novel. Totally wrong on so many levels. Should be billed as "VERY loosely based on some characters with the same names as characters from "Great Expectations"".

@DragonHeart613

Жыл бұрын

Very very loosely based indeed.

@skooshy621

7 ай бұрын

@@DragonHeart613 Loose Expectations. David Lean's 1946 adaptation knocks ten bells out of this bastardisation.

@DragonHeart613

7 ай бұрын

@skooshy621 The 2012 film adaptation starring Holiday Grainger, Ralph Finnes & Helena Bonham-Carter is also infinitely superior to that recent BBC-produced dumpster fire. David Lean's 1946 masterpiece & the aforementioned 2012 film are easily my favorite adaptations of Dickens' classic novel and in my opinion the best Great Expectations adaptations period.

@skooshy621

7 ай бұрын

@@DragonHeart613 Thank you. I will look for the 2012 adaptation you mentioned. It may well serve as the antidote to this omnishambles. (I can't take the credit for 'omnishambles'. It is uttered by the character, Malcolm Tucker, in The Thick of It.)

😯

Woke Expectations

@simplymia3153

Жыл бұрын

Tell me you’re a racist without telling me you’re a racist.

@NPC--666

Жыл бұрын

@@simplymia3153 Indeed, as soon as you know its 'woke' you know its going to be racist

they tried to make her as white as possible and she doesn't seem to be insulted at all.

@SuperAnimelover100

Жыл бұрын

That's sounds Foolish ! They didn't bleach her.

The worst ever great expectations Estella was white for a start .

Woke bullying