Justin wong- the expert player Maximillian dood- the expert commentator reviewer Matt mcmuscles- jank video games "my time to shine"

@Josh.JustJosh.

Жыл бұрын

Matt is the expert of jank. This is what makes em Triple K.O.

Matt is gonna be an expert in this conversation

@jumpfold

Жыл бұрын

Haha fr

@SPACECOWBOY705

Жыл бұрын

That's an understatement

@butterybizkit9573

Жыл бұрын

Exact thoughts, i can't wait

@azurepixels

Жыл бұрын

And he delivered

@Boonehams

Жыл бұрын

The one thing I disagree with him on is MK Advance being the worst port. Mortal Kombat 4 on Gameboy Color is absolute trash.

The reason I think Shaq Fu 2 is so much worse is that it's trying to lean into the "so bad it's good" reputation of the original. So, the original is like The Room and the sequel is more like the shit Tommy Wiseau tried to make afterward that was trying to be funny-bad...which never works.

@Jeffmetal42

Жыл бұрын

Perfect analogy. 💯

@vinnythewebsurfer

Жыл бұрын

Bingo.

@Josh.JustJosh.

Жыл бұрын

*has Samurai Cop 2 flashbacks

@derrickhaggard

Жыл бұрын

And the final boss of Shaq Fu: A Legend Reborn is and I'm not kidding a demonic parody of Madonna, as the bosses in Shaq Fu: A Legend Reborn and it's DLC epilogue Barack-Fu: The Adventures of Dirty Barry are meant to be demonic parodies of famous celebrities/celebrity arch-types basically the boss you fight at the Nazi area is supposed to be a parody of male celebrities with toxic alt-right views.

@jesuszamora6949

Жыл бұрын

@@derrickhaggard Wait, there was DLC for Shaq Fu: A Legend Reborn?

"If you're a Dragon Ball fan, you ride and die with Dragon Ball. So as a Dragon Ball fan, this game is sick." Well said, Justin. Good shit.

17:20 “THAT GAME WAS SICK HE SAYS” Max’s reaction along with the anime effect, makes it the single funniest response 💀

"Fools! You've stepped into my territory now!" -Matt McMuscles, probably

HE SAID MUGEN! we are getting closer to an episode guys!!!!!

I can never see that exact image of Shaq without my brain just blaring the opening track used in Matt’s “Worst fighting game” series

Matt has a whole section in his channel dedicated to this!

I used to run a yearly tournament at a comic and game store I worked at. We called it the IronMan of Gaming and it would feature games of a bunch of different genre and generations and have challenges and point awards for winning or beating challenges. At the end of the night we'd take the top 4 and do a mystery final set of challenges with secret games. The final challenge the last time we did it was a 4 man free for all in Onimusha Blade Warriors. Winner got $250 store credit.

@immitationstation3369

Жыл бұрын

I always kind of wanted that game haha. Looked like smash with onimusha

This really was Matt's chance to shine. I never knew SvC Chaos was considered a bad game

Props to justin for schooling these two on db lore

I am with Justin on this one. SvC Chaos is a looot more fun than what I remember. I came back to it recently and the core gameplay is so punchy I love it. But yeah SnK dropped the ball for making literally half of the roster hidden characters. Thankfully those "plus" versions exist. I also hope for SNK to authorize Code Mystics to give SvC Chaos some kind of UM treatment

Thank you Justin for actually seeing the good in SVC Chaos. I have a soft spot for that game, the sprites are just soooooo damn good. For a game that was made during SNK going bankrupt, I think it has a lot of charm to it and could have been waaaay worse.

@Jeffmetal42

Жыл бұрын

@@alwaysxnever same, Dhalsim looks great too!

@TB-to8uy

Жыл бұрын

Great SNK roster too

@Mezmero

Жыл бұрын

Those sprites are soooo freakin’ good. I can’t get over how good they are.

@madmonkey642

Жыл бұрын

And it felt like more of a crossover game than cvs2. A bit more diverse in its roster.

Justin explaining the Dragon Ball Gt lore to Max is literally my life

If any game programmer is reading this, please make a 2D fighting game and put these 3 gentlemen in it as hidden unlockable characters. Max could be the shoto. Matt could be a grappler. And Justin could be a stance character with a stance in the style of Chun Li

Episode dedicated to Matt practically, 1st ones that come to mind is Kasumi Ninja, Shaq-Fu, and Critcom.

Aww man I actually loved Onimusha Blade Warriors. I played it a ton with my friends back in the day. I remember being hyped to play as Zero and went through the grind to unlock him lol

I actually looked up some Criticom stuff and was shocked to see that there actually is something in there, you do have special moves, your characters level up, gain new moves and change appearance as they go through the arcade ladder. But that's really all there is, and as the videos from Max and Matt showed getting those special moves to come out is nearly impossible.

@tinkerer3399

Жыл бұрын

Progression in fighting games used to be a feature that they only put in *bad* fighting games.

Mortal Kombat Vs. DC is a an easy one to throw in there. Not even because of the general things people complained about the game like the lack of gore with Mortal Kombat being attached to it but because of how unnecessarily complicated that game’s version of EX’s worked and the Rage mechanic cause since it lets you armor through actually everything no matter what you’re doing, that means a few seconds of a match can be spent by one player popping Rage and the other backing away hoping they can last long enough until the Rage goes away, ya know, provided that person isn’t playing a character with the tools to very easily catch people who do that. Honestly to me that’s the the thing that ruins MK Vs. DC more than anything cause before you play the game long enough to think of the Rage mechanic, it can actually be goofy dumb fun, but it’s very easy for the Rage mechanic to bring the pace of a match to a screeching halt and that’s what kills the gameplay in my opinion.

Dead Dance was released in the US as (Hey Punk! Are U ) Tuff E Nuff. What an era.

@WerewulfNerd2000

Жыл бұрын

Jaleco had a thing for changing the title, character names, and removing content for their US localized game's especially in the 90s.

@Drpaul227

Жыл бұрын

@@WerewulfNerd2000 Tell me about it, the whole thing with Rushing Beat and Rushing Beat Run becoming Rival Turf and The Peacekeepers was just too much.

I personally didn't get into fighting games until Tekken 2 (and Bloody Roar) on the PS1 but one of my least favorite fighting games was X-Men Next Dimension. When I got my PS2 it came with Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance and X-Men Next Dimension. Say what you want about Deadly Alliance but comparing those two... Deadly Alliance was a lot of fun and Next Dimension was slow and clunky.

@kingbrahma5005

Жыл бұрын

The fact u mentioned bloody roar let’s me know how underrated that game is

@kurtreynolds7211

Жыл бұрын

I love Next Dimension, the characters, the level transitions, the number of costumes! It definitely has problems though and it is slow. But I love it 🤣

I used to own Beast Wars: Transmetals on PS1. I was so wrapped up in the FMV's that I didn't even think about the gameplay. And somehow it was better than the first Beast Wars game.😅

@derrickhaggard

Жыл бұрын

I had the N64 version and I thought it was good this was before I discovered later that it was a piece of scrap metal.

@juststatedtheobvious9633

Жыл бұрын

The GBC Beast Wars game is actually good.

@brianpbillingsley3687

Жыл бұрын

@@juststatedtheobvious9633 Wow. I didn't even know that existed.

Still hoping for a fighting game characters in non fighting games episode! (Like Project X Zone)

You guys should definitely go into N64 fighting games. That system has so many hidden gems goof and bad

@megamanx1101

Жыл бұрын

You ever play Deadly Arts? I remember having a blast with the create a fighter one weekend.

@ChrisDeebo

Жыл бұрын

@@megamanx1101 Yup long time ago. Deadly Arts,Fighters Destiny, Flying Dragon, Clay Fighter, KI Gold. I played em all

@Gatorade69

Жыл бұрын

I think Matt is a MACE the dark age fan.

@pedroolivarez572

Жыл бұрын

Demonica is a great character

seems like we are gonna see more Criticom here

Kakuto Chojin is Tobal 2, minus the grapple system and quest mode. If you take the time to play the Chojin move sets (unlocked after completing the game as a character), there's a lot of fun combos to figure out. My main issue with the game would be the lack of content. I just wish Dream Factory had more time to work on it.

I liked how that end trailer section has Max saying that they're waiting for the Dark Souls of fighting games meanwhile in this episode they directly compared Criticom to Demon Souls. I think you found your game Max.

As Justin correctly said, we, Dragon Ball fans of the '90s, were able to play every shit with DBZ licence on it at the time. I played a lot of Dragon Ball Z Ultimate Battle 22. I didn't like it at all as a fighting game, it was much worse than the DBZ fighters released before on SNES and MD, still... I had it imported from Japan and played a shit ton of it. Same for Dragon Ball Z Legends (this was the one with 3 on 3 fighting, not UB22) and GT. Dark times, for sure 😅

One correction: Dead Dance is the japanese version of Tuff E Nuff, not Power Moves. By the way, have you guys covered Tuff E Nuff somewhere? It’s not great but interesting.

@killerb255

Жыл бұрын

Need to see one of these three play Tuff E Nuff or Dead Dance.

@brendaspence1824

Жыл бұрын

I hope one of them covers the hiryu no ken fighting games from culture brain.I dunno if you remember a n64 game called flying dragon but that’s it’s name in Japanese

Man when Dragonball FighterZ came out I couldn't go back to playing any of the older games.

As someone who’s dabbled in bad fighting games, I will always say my top 3 worst fighters are: Battle Master (not the Gundamn games) is a fighting game that you first have to figure out how to do one on one fights, realize your have to earn the fighters and there are only 4 or 5 fighters total. On top of that there’s some weird leveling up system in which you build your mech to get the true end. It’s…. It’s so bad!!! (Fighting eyes and FIST are the other two lol )

@juststatedtheobvious9633

Жыл бұрын

Froggo's Karate on 2600 and the R-Zone's fighting game library are still worse.

Man, I missed the bad character episode. I actually like Xanadu. He is weird, so so weird, and he could get a better redesign. But my dude, I liked him in 14. Way more than Rufus.

Power Moves...thanks for bringing that back Matt!! It was budget ass Street Fighter. Played it in 1993.

I wasn’t expecting them to bring up the TMNT smash game lmao. I used to play that game constantly on my wii, brawl was also my first smash game so I actually really loved this game at 6-7 years old💀💀classic

My experience with Onimusha Blade Warriors mirrors Max's. It had a broken counter mechanic where if you hit attack right when someone is open to attack you, you'd preempt it for HUGE damage and it felt so random.

today I learned Matt is not a blue skeleton

@tinkerer3399

Жыл бұрын

He is still a blue skeleton, he's just wearing his fancy fleshsuit.

1:11:50 there is actually one other official transfomers fighting game and it's actually pretty good! it's another beast wars game, japan exclusive, and for the game boy color. it was made by the same devs that made the gameboy KOFs, and one of the characters even has burning knuckle it's honestly probably one of the best fighters on the game boy

42:53 I can't Believe Max predicted fighting fridges in sf6 a year ago lmao

“It plays like a FAT ASS!” I SWEAR I fall in love with Max AT LEAST once a week!

This reminds me of those Sonic rip-offs. When the first game became a sucess, every other company wanted a piece of that. Some were good, others were terrible... the rest were okay. A couple of exemples: Bubsy, Aero the Acro-Bat, Zool, Rocky Rodent, Socket, Rocket Knight Adventures, Plok, Chuck Rock, Zero the Kamikaze Squirrel, Mr. Nutz, etc...

Onimusha Blade Warriors is a real sour spot for me because it's the only fighting game that Capcom put my boy MegaMan.exe in...and it's not fun 😞

SNES - Hey Punk, Are You Tuff E Nuff. Awful.

My Street Fighter 1 or Known as Fighting Street on Turbografx 16 🤕

@ottosantiagolassus

Жыл бұрын

Me too. Street fighter 1 is way worse than the games they're mentioning

@zubrhero5270

Жыл бұрын

Wooo, I was hoping to find some SF1 haters up in here!! I had it on the C64... Sagat still haunts my dreams. Bitch used to spam throw "white pillows" (I was young... didn't know they were fireballs) and could 1-hit KO you.

Rise of the robots is the worst fighting game (that is not an indie, mobile or portable one). You can't even jump over and cross up your opponent, terrible animations, clunky controls, useless normals, even worse and pointless special moves, exploitable AI. And it has no excuse, it came around the same time as "2nd generation" fighting games like Darkstalkers and King of fighters 94. What the hell... You couldn't do a game that bad if you tried.

@Millenium-Mige

Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: when Rise came out onto it's original platform (Amiga), British game magazines pretty much destroyed their credibility by giving it really high scores across the board. Why? The arrival of Edge who praised Rise to high heavens led the publisher demand positive press via contracts. Amiga Power was the only magazine who said no and had to wait until the release. Their score , a 5 out of 100, made everyone else look like a bunch of liars.

Lol. Is it crazy that my first experience realizing I was playing a bad fighting game was when I was playing a good fighting game? I was playing DBFZ online and the connections are SO BAD lol. Especially on Xbox. I mean I haven’t played it in a a minute so maybe it’s better but you would wait 30 min for a match, it would be 10+ frames of delay, you would lose the connection on the second fight. Lol. I hope that roll back eventually fixes it.

Kabuki Warriors is not that bad of a game but it is rather basic as there is not much outside of one attack button, a few throws, rolling, and taunting to gain money. It's actually OK but nothing special, I don't get why reviews back then gave it such low scores when there is a lot worse. Kakuto Chojin is definitely a game Matt should cover as I think it's one of the most underrated 3D fighters out there as the mechanics are actually solid since it was made by DreamFactory so most of the mechanics that Tobal, Ehrgeiz, and The Bouncer had was carried over to Kakuto Chojin with a neat movement, and combo system.

Another great episode! So many (bad) memories of terrible fgs over time... > < Here's hoping the promised "art of fgs" episode is coming anytime soon, much love!, keep rockin'!! ♥

'Dead Dance' was the original name of Tuff-E-Nuff (cringe), a different game. The original name of 'Power Moves' was 'Power Athlete'.

Not gonna lie, me and my brothers played Fight Club religiously. That game had a lot of cool things like stage transit, bloody screens, breaking bones, character creator and a playable Abraham Lincoln.

Ken's wife cheated with Rufus, just sayin...

The first bad fighting game I played was Pit Fighter on SNES. It was one of those games I just always had, and even to this day it's still REALLY bad. Bad controls, very tough A.I, health doesn't replenish between fights, game over after losing one round, and no continues. Obviously, I never got far with it.

Thank you, Justin, Matt, and Maximillian for this fun episode. I (like Justin) have been a victim of bad anime IP games (especially on Super Famicom) and although I have played all of the Dragon Ball related ones, NONE are as bad as Hokuto No Ken 6 in which all of the characters play the same with 1 unique special move each. The sequel was slightly better with a Vs mechanic and added a different finisher to each character but was still very minimal for a fighting game.

Personaly my first "bad" fighting game was MK2 because I hated gard with a button and not with the back arrow.

It might just be nostalgia because they were some of the first fighting games I played but I love the X-Men Mutant Academy/Next Dimension games. I remember the story in Next Dimension actually not being that bad, with some branching paths and full cutscenes and stuff.

1:03:48 Maybe I'm wrong (pretty sure I'm not), but having been around the block on the Unity Asset Store the characters in Fight(!) are from the "PBR Fighters Pack" by artist Maksim Bugrimov. It's like their cheapest character pack. I have little doubt the animations also all come from a single asset pack though I can't be bothered to watch gameplay to see if I know off the top of my head.

The three wise men of games graces us with their opinions on the worst fighting games ever made. Let the good times roll and Lets go doods.

Loving this podcast, and the nice reminder at the end of much worse podcasts to let you know how lucky you just had it.

Man, you guys brought up DBZ Taiketsu of all games. That’s the only game in my life that I stole from someone else as a kid and honestly, I probably did them a favor.

Before I watch, hope they talk about Dragon ball GT Final bout or Heavy Nova for the Genesis

48:38 Max literally did a hop kick 🤣 Put this man in Tekken!

For me my top 4 bad game's that I actually like are War God's, Kensei: Sacred Fist, Cardinal Syn and Fighting Bujutsu. 🤓

For me, it was Tuff E Nuff. That game is TRASH. Power Moves is a masterpiece in comparison.

@Gatorade69

Жыл бұрын

Hey Punk ! Are you Tuff E Nuff ? To master the moves to master me ?

Pit fighter was my first POS

Rise of the Robots was the first game I thought of too. I think after that it would be Black Hole Assault on the Mega CD. Not a great game but the hidden Pong like game called Black Ball Assault is really addictive.

Dragon Ball GT had an initial release outside of japan. As an anime nerd back then it was kind of a big deal because it was the only dragon ball thing you could get and we'll see how to access the fan subs. Except for maybe those t-shirts that were floating around

I’m appalled and almost offended that you didn’t mention clay fighter at all, that game series is a very special piece of trash

@zubrhero5270

Жыл бұрын

63 1/3... I knew it was bad, it got rated bad... But, seeing it in adverts in games magazines priced so cheaply just made me want it, just to bulk up that collection a bit.

@ancientblade3131

Жыл бұрын

See I actually own all of the clayfighter games, including sculptors cut, and I grew up with them BECAUSE they were so cheap and I wasn’t allowed to play Mortal Kombat, Clayfighter was trash, BUT it got 5 releases and there were several attempts to revive the series but it kept getting kneecapped but it’s own company trying to lower costs, tournament edition is decent fun, and there’s a fan hack called ultra clayfighter tournament edition, and it’s actually really good. Just one of those cases where it could’ve been something, and then it wasn’t. Lol

1. This podcast is excellent! Keep up the great work. 2. Respectfully you guys are wrong about Onimusha Blade Warriors 🤣. It is a pretty good time with friends, has a ton of characters with multiple endings, forms and costumes, there are hidden levels and even some expanded lore sprinkled in. It has problems but me and my friends played it for at least 100+ hours when it released lol. 3. Ironically I also loved X-Men Next dimension amd sunk a hundred hours in with friends as well. 🤣 so maybe I'm wrong

Yo!! Onimusha Blade Warriors! Dood! It had MM Zero and MM EXE! That was it for me! Lol

@29:30 for Kabuki warriors the best review ever was from egm I believe, "I won a match by literally bashing the controller against my ass."

Last episode was probably the most genuine point made defending Rufus, that if his personality and design were used seperately, it wouldve been fine. Fat kung fu man with quirks. But the fact he's this loud, obnoxious, try hard fattso who thinks he can even approach Ken at all makes him unbearable as a design for a character. You just want him to lose every second he's on screen

@WerewulfNerd2000

Жыл бұрын

So basically Khan from Kakuto Chojin who is also a fat kung fu guy who kinda looks like Clown from Spawn.

I remember SCRUBLORDS. Never forget.

Ready or not!

I loved rise of the imperfects and I think it holds up really well the game just wasn’t completely finished it was rushed. I would love to see that game come back some way

For April fool's, can we get an episode all about Sonic the Fighters

I liked shaq fu, it wasn't great but I loved it

@Gatorade69

Жыл бұрын

My friend liked it and I never cared for it...

@2-tone989

Жыл бұрын

@@Gatorade69 it had good animations, which was apart of the problem. It has too much animation, too many frames which made it sluggish

Shaq fu was good and bad at the same time. Characters were great, moves were wanky but the stages were nice. It had a weird feel to it but I enjoyed it in 1990 something.

The first game I ever played was bloody roar 2 and that was fantastic. What was y’alls first fighter?

By seeing Fred, I'm going to assume Fight Club is brewing around this video somewhere

People were at one point talking about the possibility of a Marvel Nemesis 2. And I’m like, really? Y’all want a sequel to THAT game?

Svc chaos was a ton of fun. but my copy started crashing when you did, something i forget what.

My first terrible fighting game was Pitfighter. Probably the worst rental of my life

@Gatorade69

Жыл бұрын

SNES or Genesis ?

@WolvTerror

Жыл бұрын

@@Gatorade69 SNES

@Gatorade69

Жыл бұрын

@@WolvTerror That was definitely the worst version.

Way late comment, but yall made the battle fridge joke and a year later the damn things are in SF6 world tour.

I played Dino Rex at HEY in Akihabara a couple weeks ago. It was a depressing experience.

Yo when’s the merch coming??

I thought " I wonder if they'll talk about the construction vehicle fighting game" and sure enough they did.

Cardinal Sin is not a bad game, its a very fun game once you learn the gameplay.

No one mentioned FX Fighter! I remember it as one of the worst fighters I've ever played and also the first time I bought a fighting game and regretted it.

Ultimate Battle 22 was sick, played my friends import copy back in the day

Good video, how about a hidden gem or good obscure fighting games?

can you guys do a video on the capcom vs snk games/the future of the franchise

Matt's reaction at 12:28 is pretty much the same reaction I made just now, Jesus lol. I used to own Shaq Fu on my Genesis and I absolutely despised that game (I got it bundled with Comix Zone at the end of the Genesis's life at retail).

One fighting game I played that was just weird was Rock'em Sock'em Robots for the Playstation. This game was like some strange 3D Mortal Kombat game where you could literally rip your opponent's limbs by attacking it a bunch. The controls were pretty jank, and you could spam moves a bunch. One of the characters felt really broken.

please play kettou beast wars on the GBC. it's actually pretty good

@nakananokaoi

Жыл бұрын

I second this, along with the other FG's made by Takara on the GB and GBC

So I’m watching this for the first time now and wonder how it would go if this topic was revisited. Especially after the Expect No Mercy and Iron & Blood episodes of Worst Fighting Game.

SVC Chaos plus had the hidden characters unlocked. Those are available on the normal game via code though.

Does Karate Champ for NES count? That would be my first bad fighting game. And Shadow: War of Succession for 3DO is the worst of all.

Doomsday Warrior on the SNES. Neat idea you can level up stats after each fight but man unnecessary difficulty hurdle on the bosses

My first bad fighting game, was Rise of the Robots! Our class one day on Friday did a special video game day and let us bring in our consoles to play video games for a few hours. They couldn't be violent, so no Street Fighter 2 or Mortal Kombat. And a friend had rented and brought that in! And it sucked! lol

@Gatorade69

Жыл бұрын

Street Fighter 2 wasn't violent ... At least in my opinion and compared to MK. I guess the character portraits are beat up after you beat them... but like it isn't overly bloody or anything.

@Jordan83709

Жыл бұрын

@@Gatorade69 According to our teachers! lol

@Gatorade69

Жыл бұрын

@@Jordan83709 Fighting = Violent. But it's fine if robots beat each other up.

@Jordan83709

Жыл бұрын

@@Gatorade69 That's what they said. This was in middle school. I would have prefered to play a GOOD fighting game! Not garbage like Rise of the Robots! lol

@Gatorade69

Жыл бұрын

@@Jordan83709 Yeah I remember something similar at my school. Someone brought Mario Kart 64 though so that was fun.

Where's this list that they keep referring to? I don't see it in the description.