I agree, this is the worst gen for consoles easily. I thought last gen was bad but this is another level of bad and I dont see it getting any better in the future consoles. In fact I see it getting even worse.

I think the main problem is how long it takes to create AAA games now. The PS3/360 era had so many games, with at least 10 big releases every year. Every franchise released a game every year. And everyone was happy with a Singleplayer being 15 hours long. Now we have to wait 6 years for a new game, development got super expensive because of the graphics, so they make the game bigger to excuse the higher price tag and just fill the game with stuff that distracts from the core experience.

@viraticwars

Ай бұрын

PS2/Xbox/GC era had the most quality content of any era.

@vogonp4287

Ай бұрын

Not to mention the lack of risks being taken, because games are so expensive and long to make.

@Mechaghostman2

Ай бұрын

Not only that, but now every game is trying to be Skyrim, which is basically a "forever game" where people play the thing long after they've beaten it. It's not just graphics. Graphics are only a small part of it, and they're actually not that hard to create at higher fidelities. It's all the content that they throw in it. This is why many games have content that feels more like a chore to play, or where the games all just feel like a travel from A to B to listen to dialogue or swing a sword, and repeat. At least Nintendo is still trying to create some good games, even if their console is only half as powerful as a launch XBone.

@lo4tr

Ай бұрын

This is true to a degree. However, the problem isn't so much that we get less games per system, but that we can still play the newer games on the old systems. It proves that they are rushing the console generations rather than spending a few more years milking the old ones. What it comes down to is that fact that since games are taking longer to make, that it should also mean that console generation last longer than they used to.

@alanmacdonald1457

Ай бұрын

the real problem is the aaa games are mostly trash now money has destroyed gaming

Calling console players financially inept is really fuckin stupid lol

The Switch has outsold everything, comes out with constant awesome games, has the best indie scene, don't have to download 100gb when you first play the game, mem carts don't scratch, is portable etc etc etc. Switch 2 will be the ultimate.

I'm so old, I can remember when games on a new console looked better than games on the old one. I've been a Playstation guy since 1996 and I have yet to see a single PS5 screen grab that gives me ANY motivation to buy it. If you handed me a free PS5, I'd sigh over having to move my existing library over to it.

I think, ultimately what it proves, is that there wasn't enough of an 'upgrade' between systems this time around, since so many of the games can still be played relatively well on older hardware. It's also reached the point where you have to download data onto the systems now since the data (or at least a portion of it) is no longer on the games themselves. So, you are just buying a PC that is less powerful, less versatile, and more expensive over time. Rather than waiting for the prior generation to run its course, much like what the Switch is doing, the average person doesn't have a reason to want to upgrade their old Sony or Microsoft system.

6th Gen > 7th Gen > 5th Gen > 8th Gen >>>>>>>>>> 9th Gen

@rainman3164

Ай бұрын

6th, 4th, 7th, 5th, everything else, in that order.

This generation has been out for what, like 5 years, and it feels like it's barely gotten started. For the past few generations, there's been this transitional period where any upcoming game would receive a proper next-gen version and a downgraded pastgen port so that anyone who didn't immediately shell out top dollar for the new Shitbox wouldn't feel completely left out in the cold (and so that the publishers could get a double-dip on the profits). But with so few true next-gen exclusives for PS5 and XSX, it feels like this transitional period never really ended. In 2007 alone (!), the 360 got Assassin's Creed, Bioshock, Lost Planet, Halo 3, Crackdown and Modern Warfare. How many next-gen exclusives worth a damn came out in 2021? And there's already rumors about the NEXT next generation ready to be unveiled? lmao, the second video game crash can't come soon enough.

I'm doing fine cause i just ignore bad games, they do not exist. Just beat Selaco today and it was a great shooter, has a few balance issues, but is otherwise amazing in almost every way, with amazing AI, and the dev has said he intends to make it better, and even in Early access it has 30 levels in just chaper1, with chapter 2 and 3 coming for free later, +improvements, +mod support already baked in, +it's open source with no DRM. I am eating good, reject the noise, play good games, let the AAA rot into nothing.

@NucleaRaptor

Ай бұрын

I agree, pretty much every enjoyable game I've played over the last couple of years has been indieshit. The thing is, you don't need nextgen graphex for any of it. Almost all of those games would play just fine on a PS3. All this processing capability, and they do nothing worthwhile with it.

it didn’t help that you couldn’t get them for like 2 years

It takes way too long to develop new games, it costs way too much money, and because of this, companies are too risk averse to experiment and come up with something new. When the PS2 came out, experimentation was encouraged because the focus was on making games fun, which is why it has a library of over 4,000 games. You’d never see anything even close to that on a modern console.

Wouldn't be so bad if they either stopped charging full price for every new game that comes out, or took the time to make every new game that gets released be worth $70 worth of content. If prices go up, so should the quality.

i do miss the days when you would pay full price for a game that was actually completed and not have a 30+ gb day one update for it or have the need to download the entirety of the physical copy to your hard drive

@RippahRooJizah

Ай бұрын

To be fair back in the game they will still sell you incomplete games, you just had less chance of seeing stuff fixed.

Soon it'll take the whole generation just to make 1 game

I got my PS5 when it was impossible to get a PS5. When the FedEx drivers were stealing PS5

@waaagh3203

Ай бұрын

Do you work for FedEx?

@GoonieLord

Ай бұрын

@waaagh3203 Let's not forget about Amazon they were sending folks cat litter instead of a PS5

@liquidsnake6879

Ай бұрын

ouch

Come to the PC side, we don't have to worry about bad console generations over here!

On top of that 50%, 80% are only playing games from 6+ years ago. AAA Gaming is DE@D

I buy PS2 last week, and forget about my PS5 and Xbox Series X.

I don’t really agree with it being unnecessary to get a new console to play new games because there are last gen versions. A lot of games in the last 4 years run at a significantly poorer quality on last gen system: Cyberpunk and Elden Ring being some huge examples of this. Playing these games on a next gen console can really feel night and day. It’s nice there are still options for folks with older consoles, but next gen does offer noticeable improvements, especially with fluidity of higher FPS.

I plan on getting a pc next after making the mistake of buying the xbox series x. Its great but, I see whats coming. Another cycle of the same thing. Ill just swap out parts on my pc to keep up to date

@Veddea

Ай бұрын

You made the right decision, I highly endorse that. Been a consolero since childhood, but switched to PC like 2 years ago. Didn't regret at all, and you won't too! The advantages heavily outweigh the disadvantages (if there are any).

It’s crazy I spent $500 on a XboxSX and the only new games I could play are for that console is Microsoft flight simulator, Xdefiant, and I’m still waiting on gta6

I have had a Series X for over half a year now and not a single current gen game I have played on it is not also on PC and better there. At this point I just use it for livestreaming convenience and play mainly older games on it. Most of the games I have for it are 360 games. This generation just feels even more pointless than the last one and that is saying something.

@Giantsxbox

Ай бұрын

it feels pointless bc it is pointless for you since you only play older games...

@magmamaster1801

Ай бұрын

@@Giantsxbox No, I play new games as well but those are all available and far superior on PC.

I don't disagree with any argument presented here. This is absolutely the worst console generation and I've just about stopped playing Console games and only play PC now. However, I do still like consoles because all in all they are still cheaper. I only need a TV/monitor and a controller. Most decent PCs cost 500+ for the pc alone if you want one close in power to the console. Then you need a mouse, keyboard, and tv/monitor. So you're often paying more for the PC. Then if you have children like I do, you need multiple PCs because split screen isn't as widely used on pc, multiple copies of the same game because PC game sharing is lacking at best and space to fit multiple PCs because building those nice mini ITX computers isn't always viable because the cases alone are pretty expensive. At least with the Xbox you can have two consoles playing the same game at the same time as long as one is set to the home console and the other has the primary gamepass/gold account signed in. But to your point, yes I am paying more in the long run to have Gold, but since I do gamepass, I feel like it's a bit more worth it since my family can play so many games I couldn't otherwise afford to play and that includes me on PC when my kids aren't playing. Thanks for coming to my TED talk and great video. I look forward to comments pulling apart my argument. I'm sure I overlooked something. Have a great day.

@TS-je3cl

Ай бұрын

and also you're not factoring in the fact that the current gen consoles are regionally quite a step up in price too, for example; herep ps5's even SECOND HAND still go for prices you could buy a nice pc for :(

I'm kinda surprised to hear some people thought the previous gen was bad (outside of what MS offered, I mean). I can, with a straight face, say the PS4 was better than the PS3. Granted, saying this gen is bad because the previous gen is being supported still is not legitimate enough for me to consider a real reason. But this gen? Being that we're still relatively not too far into it (We're still comparing it to past gens that came and went), and that I've gotten a few really good games out of it so far, can't say it is the worst. Still would have to say it is the PS360 era that I'd say was the worst I've experienced. The ideal of "JRPG=Bad", the emergence of the brown and grey shooters, over-reliance of QTEs, the Red ring of death, the unfortunate case of the PS3 needing to be kneecapped in capabilities to make it financially viable, when online services needed to be charged (I'm not against merely *paying* for online services, mind you), PS3s difficulty in programming games for it biting Sony harder than the PS2, anti used game and anti singleplayer sentiment... probably some other stuff I've forgotten. Oh, the period when indies were really starting to take off but, for the most part, weren't really quite *there* yet. Not saying this gen is great, but I do like incorporating SSDs into a console's functionality rather than just having a console that can use SSDs. Also as a person who has dabbled into PC gaming over the years whenever I see someone say PCs are better than consoles in every way I just kinda shake my head because it certainly has not been that way for me. I'm not willing to go as far as I would go all or nothing in either side but at least with consoles I have less issue pertaining to playing games (which include trying to find solutions to my issues and not finding them. This has happened multiple times), or worried about my PC being unable to adequately run certain games, an issue I don't have on console most times. Also, I'm not someone who has thrown away the concept of having physical copies of games. I would also rather have a separate console for whenever I record stuff, since it's more convenient for me to do so over setting up my PC to do it. As far as price goes, saying PC is absolutely cheaper is kinda obscuring some things about the costs of PCs. It *can* be cheaper than consoles, but you *can* also easily spend more than twice as much on a PC as you would on a console for a decent midranged option.

I haven’t gotten a ps5 because there are no games… maybe once MGS3 comes out

Nintendo is doing just fine.

People still rock nvidias 1660, 2080, I dont see anyone complaining that they're slowing game development.

@liquidsnake6879

Ай бұрын

2080s still work absolutely fine for most games, i don't have a 4k display and don't have plans of getting one so at 1080p the 2080 runs absolutely everything you chuck at it

@mattyryon

Ай бұрын

They aren't slowing development because game devs don't cater to those people so it means nothing, A 2080 is also more powerful than a PS5

Did you play Detroit Become Human, Uncharted 4 , Final Fantasy 15 , Yakuza 0 , Days Gone , Last of us 2 , Death Stranding. Honestly the PS4 had so many good games. Turd box not so much 😅

@liquidsnake6879

Ай бұрын

as someone who's been gaming since the PS1, if that is your lineup for the PS4 that's a joke compared to past generations, there's literally no reason to buy a $500 console just for that selection lol

I've been saying this for the past two years, and people were ignoring me. Here we are. I am still on the Xbox One and I am not missing out at all. I won't be getting a new console until GTA 6 comes out. That game is the only reason to get a new console.

@RealBasedSpartan

Ай бұрын

If you have a PC, just wait until GTA6 releases

It’s not the best but definitely not the worst mean every generation that comes out sometime he is saying it’s the worst generation every console cycle lmao.

If this this generation is the worst video game generation, 1. I'm glad I skipped on this. 2.I can't imagine how bad the next gen is gonna be. Edit: I'm glad I got a PC instead of a ps5; steam sales, don't have to worry about games only being on a specific gen, free online, and we get both playstation and xbox 'exclusives'. Everything is just more convenient on PC.

Physical copies of games is what consoles have over PC

@liquidsnake6879

Ай бұрын

Nobody really cares tbh, steam is going nowhere and in fact digital copies are where games preservation goes, nobody tries to preserve games through physical copies, it's all digital

@mattyryon

Ай бұрын

I can't think of any PS5 games that work without downloading huge amounts of files from a server first, the disc is just authentication at this point

The bang that you get for your buck is just not worth it in regards to PS5, that's why me and so many stick to the PS4 and Sony knows it that's why they still release games for the PS4 . Until we see a true leap in technology and game experience 500$ for a console isn't worth it for the average consumer.

The only reason to get a PS4 was Bloodborne, and the only reason to get a PS5 is to play Bloodborne if your PS4 broke. There has never been a reason to get the xbox, which is why it's lost every console generation its been in, except the first where it out sold the Gamecube, which today is looked at way more fondly then it was in its day. But no console generation will be as bad as the 2600 days.

To keep it 💯 i'm still playing ps3 and vita games mostly. I have everything with gamepass Pc ect. But everything is just so meh.

Sony should just come out with the vita 2 that cross play with PS4 games and put out more double AA games.

I just find it funny how people are still buying consoles. My last console was a Ps3. I couldn't care less for them nowadays. My notebook is enough to play games on a similar quality of a ps5, and most games I play are old titles from 8, 16 and 32 bits era anyway.

In your next video, can you talk about Mac vs windows? I feel like this needs to be talked about

As a PC and Switch gamer it's not that bad, i'm digging it. Elden Ring is awesome, Zelda is awesome i'm quite happy, people really need to stop dubbing this a "console crisis" and call it more of a Sony/Xbox crisis, or really the slow death of third party AAA game development which these two were relying on to be the main producers system seller games. Paying $500 for slightly better shading and lesser load times is passé, nobody cares about such minor improvements enough to dump $500 on new hardware for it, the AAA console companies really need to go back to the drawing board and figure out what people actually want, as someone who started on the PS1 i'm STILL waiting for the generational leap from the PS3 era lol, it's all just minor improvements nowadays and you still expect me to dump hundreds of dollars on a new brick? Maybe the time we get to the PS8 and i can get enough minor improvements that combine into a single generational leap, otherwise i don't really care, the only people who care THAT much about graphical fidelity and 4k whatever are PC gamers and PC gamers won't buy consoles to begin with

I agree with pretty much everything you said, but price is still where console leads. You’re just wrong about that. To get a similarly powered pc, plus all of the necessary accessories is expensive af. It would take many years for the price of subscriptions to catch up to it.

Graphic simps are to blame.

second gen will always be the worst since it was responsible for the 83's video game crash...but this gen is not too far behind

@mattyryon

Ай бұрын

That's pre gen, the first gen would really be NES and Master system. Releases weren't competitive before that and most of them were basically just low grade toys or 1 trick PCs.

@domymbd

Ай бұрын

@@mattyryon wrong… the NES/Master System is the 3rd gen. Genesis/SNES being 4th gen, PS1/N64 the 5th gen, etc, etc

@mattyryon

Ай бұрын

@@domymbd It's not wrong, there is a multitude of different organizations with different groupings to claim what is "x" gen and even a whole wiki article on it. I'm basing mine on when it actually started to matter

i agree all this generation did was make games go up $70 like why

@Giantsxbox

Ай бұрын

try $90 also for AAA games. not including the dlc's. totally agree

Between 1) gamers' obsession with graphics with no regard for gameplay, 2) greatly increased development cycles to make said "games", and 3) increasingly bloated budgets, this was a perfect storm that no real gamers wanted (and something Satoru Iwata warned against 20 years ago). As for PC, how are people OK with cheaters and hackers--and generally antisocial losers--destroying every online game? No amount of saved money is worth a bunch of idiots ruining multiplayer games, nor do any amount of PC Master Race talking points paper over these maladies.

But bro, you don't understand the depth of the exclusives. You CAN'T tell me you don't think "Walking Simulator With Cutscene Event Trigger Every 20 Steps #598092093598" is worth buying a PS5 over.

Covid really set back both consoles two years. The shutdown’s really hurt this gen

AAA is killimg itself with esg dei pandering and dont forget corporate greed. Yes games are taking too long to produce. Vote with your wallets people.

I don’t get all this talk of this being the worst console generation Nintendo is killing it PlayStation I would argue has had a better lineup in comparison to the ps4 this far in the lifespan Xbox well they’re gonna Xbox and while a lot of big AAA third party titles are greedy slop like everything from Ubisoft there are companies making great games like capcom

@TS-je3cl

Ай бұрын

nintendo hasn't released a console for this generation, and therefore the switch is still considered to be a last gen console. (Ps4, Xbox one, Switch era). I think the vid is adressing the fact that there is no real incentive to buy a ps5 or xsx

Are you living under a rock? The PS5 has some fantastic games, great hardware and the upgrade to an SSD is game changing for consoles. I dont even own one but have used one quite a lot of a friends, and own a dual sense that I use my PC The Xbox is dead and the Switch can be emulated by my fricking phone so...

@liquidsnake6879

Ай бұрын

Nobody really cares, it's about software, the Switch and the PC have it, the PS5 does not, nobody cares about Miles Morales Spider Man or a remake of Demons Souls when we got Elden Ring on PC and literally every action game made since the 2000s lol and the Final Fantasy 7 game is only a timed exclusive and probably the last of it's kind since Square was forced to admit it underperformed in sales because of the timed exclusivity. The Switch can be emulated by some phones but it's also cheaper than some phones, comes with a controller and the battery lasts longer so yeah. The upgrade to an SSD is "game changing" for consoles perhaps but i've had SSDs on PC for years now, it's not new tech and tbh it's again a minor thing, nobody was ever really that bothered by load times, we always had them, developers found cool ways around them. Its not a big enough deal for anyone to dump $500 on new hardware, same as the shading.

Coleco and Atari 2600 was the worst, presuming you don't count the micro computers as consoles.

The worst part of this generation is Switch. That's the reason why we have so many PS4 games. Switch is a semi home console with 2005's specs. It's simply pathetic.

@urmomma2688

Ай бұрын

The reason there are so many ps4 games is that there are so many ps4 players. Devs wouldn't still be porting games to an inferior console they know is holding them back if there was nobody to buy them on there You leave the Switch out of this.

@shawnsoap

Ай бұрын

Why are you blaming Nintendo for Sony's issue 😭

@leodefine86

Ай бұрын

Nintendo has an awesome list of great games every year for the Switch, its success has nothing to do with Sony and Microsoft failures.