Given Fully Charged show's cozy relationship with Vince and Ecotricity, I think it might be worth commenting on their bio-gas initiative. Happened to catch Vince getting into a bit of a Twitter spat with the writer George Monbiot, and couldn't help but notice that Vince seemed evasive on environmental impact studies and the like regarding this project.

@geoffthompson1215

2 жыл бұрын

I like Vince, and I’ve engaged with him on his FB page a few times. However, whenever I try to crunch the numbers with him on ‘green gas’ (read diesel hungry AD infrastructure) he just won’t respond. The road miles involved in ‘green gas’ will be immense.

@Lewis_Standing

2 жыл бұрын

I was about to say something similar , or maybe something really awful like " be careful Robert, Dale may try to mow you down and digest you into methane if you're not careful"

@drunkenhobo5039

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't he also involved in some sort of nonsense "air diamonds" startup that was going to use fantastic amounts of energy to take a few grams of CO2 from the air and turn them into diamond?

@justjohn7529

2 жыл бұрын

IMHO Dale's Green Gas is a great idea if he's using clipping from public spaces, but that also means this will not be a replacement for Fossil Gas. It will be a small but welcome part of the energy mix, not a big player. If of course fugitive emissions are under control.

@amwphotos

2 жыл бұрын

If you saw the pollution that digestate causes you'd realise it's not that environmentally friendly!

As an FGR fan, thanks for this! Great to see we’re still relatively relevant

You're spot on. We need the big clubs around the world to follow suit and to set an example

@jimsouthlondon7061

2 жыл бұрын

Valley Parade Bradford City fire

As the head of the micro fan supporters group, NewYorkCity FGR, let me say this is awesome. I love both the message and the sport. Great season! SO glad you can watch every game on video in the USA.

What a great example to all of sport and industry.

If they are building a new stadium, why not cover it completely in solar panels, and sell the power generated above what they use. The complaints that I here all of the time is that there is not enough space to put solar panels to make it worthwhile for the country.

@t1n4444

2 жыл бұрын

If arsed Google up the Moroccan solar farm project to supply UK via undersea cables. .

Sadly taking a local neighborhood's club out of it home and sticking it on green fields next to the motorway is not my idea of green. Currently the local fans can walk to the stadium, after the new one is build they will have to drive 8 miles. This does nothing for the local community or the environment.

@rtfazeberdee3519

2 жыл бұрын

There are probably various restrictions on ground sizes, safety, access etc laid out by the Football League that they will have to adhere to as they climb the leagues

@andymccabe6712

2 жыл бұрын

Er, what about the non local fans who live too far away from the current stadium - and have to drive........?! Isn't the club growing and so needs a bigger stadium? AND presumably, the local roads won't cope. AND locals will have more noise pollution, traffic, punters traipsing about etc etc. What's your green/local solution.....?!

@wernerrietveld

2 жыл бұрын

@@andymccabe6712 eh, trains? Why not stick the new ground next to a railway?

@t1n4444

2 жыл бұрын

@@rtfazeberdee3519 Local (Planning) Authority might have decided the impact of lots of fans milling about in the streets and possibly car parking which upsets the residents was an issue. Will presume the site will be treated to an outbreak of redevelopment ... Plenty of three story townhouses, with parking on ground floor, for maximum use of land. Doubtless the houses will come wired up for car charging ... just as hydrogen fuel cells cars are about to take centre stage.

@danielfisher8625

2 жыл бұрын

Nailsworth where the club is located tiny so most of the fans travel from Stroud

There is Wood stadium in Hungary, you should cover it also.

So they're not going to build the new stadium near a rail line? Forcing people to travel there in cars.

Great effort from this lovely club. I have one issue though, and it is a major one. Why put the new stadium next to a motorway junction rather than next to the daddy of sustainable transport: the railway!?

@t1n4444

2 жыл бұрын

Possibly because the Local Authority and their Planning depart said so? There's bound to be a Development Plan of some sort and that's the designated site. Perhaps the land was cheaper? Perhaps the road traffic ends up being vastly reduced in the urban environment. As for railways then, as we are now experiencing, perhaps they aren't quite so "reliable" after all?

Beautiful!

One question… Where are the solar panels on the new stadium?!? Thought they would make great use of that huge rooftop!

@eyeballengineering7007

2 жыл бұрын

This whole event is just a massive virtue signal.

Interesting video

I would love to visit even though I'm not the biggest fan of football, but the grounds and the food available would make it worth the trip. Good luck to the team and the local community!

@simonhenry7867

2 жыл бұрын

Vince has been manovering not only to get it next to the M5, but to get Stonehouse train station shifted a mile north onto his side off the line (with just fields between it and the stadium1.6 miles as the crow flies) and north off the Bristol/Cardiff London split. So might be very easy to visit.

The 'Fully Charged New Lawn"

very impressive

Great club, love Gloucester

Realy nice, who wil follow? Innovators is what we need. It is amazing.

In the Stadium and Outside the stadium EVERYTHING IS GREEEN!!! HOly shiet ... The Oxygen Quality would be Amazing.. I love this Setting. Im Going here! _tho im Asian and grew up on a landfill_

nice!!

I’ve seen Dale Vince at FC Live & listened to the FGR story so it was really great to see some of the environmental measures they’ve taken - especially the Fully Charged playing field! 👏😊

Can you cover cochin international airport some day?

Apparently there's a huge stadium in Holland, powered by over 200 old Nissan Leaf batteries......

Totally agree Robert but this new stadium will destroy a small forest to built it from scatch and if the wood was recycled then yes I would agree but not sure with this project it's the case.

@doctormo

2 жыл бұрын

🤔 wouldn't a wooden building, that sourced materials from a sustainable forest lock away a couple of tons of CO2? (yes I know, small potatoes) compared to a concrete building releasing tons? I get that cutting down a virgin forest is bad. And yes, supply chains have way too much fog. But there's many forests that are not virgin, and produce wood sustainably.

@leftcoaster67

2 жыл бұрын

More emphasis on more trees being planted. And sustainability.

Plus a few timber high rise buildings in Canada and Japan. Turns out that the Japanese structures are sort of earthquake proof. They don't need the swinging bob weights or massive water tanks. Engineered timber has been around from the 1990s. The Crossrail station at Canary wharf was built with a timber roof and sides in 2014. Sort of a geodetic design but much longer. I gather one term is "parallams", or "glulams". Excellent engineering using "natural" organic materials.

@jimsouthlondon7061

2 жыл бұрын

Like the cladding on the side of Grenfall Tower

@t1n4444

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimsouthlondon7061 Interesting comment. Please expatiate.

@johnburns4017

2 жыл бұрын

A problem with wood is insect infestation and shrinkage. There is only is much you can do with wood. Also preserving wood takes lots of chemicals. So the eco side is not as eco as you think.

@t1n4444

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnburns4017 😂😂😂😂 You might well have been partially correct in the years gone by. However, science and technology have advanced so probably no need for you to concern yourself. We've have timber framed housing for years ... and not just in the past 40 years. Late medieval houses still exist as do timber framed (balloon type) buildings from slightly later periods. Some suffered from dry or wet rot as well as insect infestations. Some survived. You won't need me to remind you there's a hammer beam roof at Versailles, constructed of sweet chestnut, that is spiderwebs free since construction. So not all bad.

@johnburns4017

2 жыл бұрын

@@t1n4444 I am fully aware of the history of wood in buildings. Some Japanese buildings are about 700 years old. Then taken to pieces every 100 years or so, fix parts and then reassemble. The points I made are still valid.

I love this club.

I want to know more about their electric bus/coach... Edit: I did some Googling it seems they used a Yutong TCE12 for the game against Bristol Rovers earlier this season

It's always a pleasure having Robert as a host, long time no see pal, you should be more shows!

Have to ask. Isn't it Ecotricity who want to grow grass, make gas from it and BURN it?

They’re my team now!! 🇨🇦🇨🇦

@jimsouthlondon7061

2 жыл бұрын

The Valley Parade Bradford City Fire

It's a great story this Club

Dale is such a fascinating guy, I was particularly intrigued about his plans for 'Green Gas from Green Grass' - perhaps this is something The Fully Charged Show could look into in the future?

@heatleynoble

2 жыл бұрын

It turned out to be a total red herring. The AD industry full of them.

@adamlytle2615

2 жыл бұрын

@@heatleynoble in what way was it a red herring?

@heatleynoble

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamlytle2615 produces little gas. Takes huge amount of fossil fuels in producing the grass. Large scale grass production takes away from productive agricultural land. Toxic by products difficult put back on the land. Maize is most efficient AD feed, and nobody has done the total environmental analysis of the whole process.

@adamlytle2615

2 жыл бұрын

@@heatleynoble ah, I see. I thought you might have meant red herring in that they were not really going to do that or something,like it was just a proposal for a PR stunt. Yes, from what I've read this does seem to be a half baked idea would have more impacts than they are letting on.

@simonhenry7867

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamlytle2615 well ecotricity has had the idea for at least 5 years and currently at zero production.

Si they keep also a biodigestor to treat the kitchen and food scraps and produce cooking Gad and liquid fertilizer to use on the kitchen the first and turf the later.

Forest Green are my favorite team in England! Hope they continue to change the game for the better!

@jimsouthlondon7061

2 жыл бұрын

Valley Parade Bradford City Fire

@zombiestyled

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimsouthlondon7061 what's your point?

Please tell me the lawn mower at 1:22 and tractor at 1:28 are battery powered.

@andymccabe6712

2 жыл бұрын

Nah mate - very old diesel.......!

This is so amazing to see! OhMyGoodness, this is brilliant 😃 I grew up playing soccer & would love to visit their future eco-stadium to watch a football match ⚽🙏🏽

@jimsouthlondon7061

2 жыл бұрын

A Football Stadium made of wood ,The Bradford City Fire

@xandermarjoram8622

2 жыл бұрын

​@@jimsouthlondon7061 Bradford was a terrible tragedy but a lot of things went wrong there and safety standards have come a long way. Smoking in the stadium. Gaps below the seats where litter had accumulated. No fire extinguishers in the stands. Highly flammable bitumen on the stadium roof.

@jimsouthlondon7061

2 жыл бұрын

@@xandermarjoram8622 After Kings X escalator Jubilee Line ,Elizabeth line and all tube stations only made from Steel and Concrete.Sustainable Wood burns. As did the thermal cladding on Grenfal Tower

@xandermarjoram8622

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimsouthlondon7061 Grenfell's cladding was made of ACM, which is polyethylene (plastic) between two layers of aluminium (metal). It had also failed multiple safety tests before the fire, but it hadn't been replaced.

@jimsouthlondon7061

2 жыл бұрын

@@xandermarjoram8622 So the guy who signed off the cladding on Grenfall Tower is he also signing of the fire safety certificate on the planning permission for your all new green wooden sports stadium ,another fiery death trap ?

There was a wooden stadium in Bradford once, didn't end well, maybe have a rethink.

@timsyoutube6051

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to mention this. Surprised there isn't some sort of law against it like there is with the whole no terraces rule.

@DavidKnowles0

2 жыл бұрын

@@timsyoutube6051 technology has come a long way. The stadium will be filled with sensors to detected fires. Plus wood can be made fire resistance.

@rtfazeberdee3519

2 жыл бұрын

They'll probably use Glulam (glued laminated wood) as it seems pretty fireproof

@rfldss89

2 жыл бұрын

Glulam beams are actually more fire resistant than steel and concrete ones. Wood at that size chars on the surface, but the center stays intact. The charred bits serve as a heat blanket of sorts. Meanwhile, concrete cracks at high temps and steel loses its temper, both leading to catastrophic failure. This isnt the first wooden building of this size. plenty already exist, and they've proven to be perfectly safe and feasible.

@timsyoutube6051

2 жыл бұрын

@@rfldss89 that sounds good but isn't the whole point of using steel and cement that there is nothing to burn in the first place so high temps shouldn't be an issue. I'm all for more eco construction methods but this wouldn't be the first time something was sold as being fire resistant and then turns out it wasn't.

Trees, when mature, take in very little carbon, it is however stored within the tree, if you then use this timber for construction you are storing it, locking it away. Same as SkyDiamonds, suck the carbon out of the air and lock it away indefinitely! As for those saying it will instantly burn down, you obviously have no experience in the construction industry, it will outperform steel, and as fire regulations give a very limited amount of time for any stadium to be evacuated in event of a fire, it will never be an issue. Both Bradford and Kings cross were caused by a huge buildup of rubbish under the structures. Can't wait for the new stadium. Walking distance from my house! And most FGR fans don't live in Nailsworth anyway, as evident by the parking and traffic chaos around the existing ground.

check out flywheel storage, easily up to 30kWh/kg, same as hydrogen, various spin frequencies, up to 200krpm, like a typical jet engine, design equation for energy density: S=E/m=(pi^2)*(r^2)*(f^2), pi = 3.14159, r = radius of mass disc, f = spin frequency, 33Hz for 2000rpm, units in J/kg, 1MJ = 0.278kWh, examples r=1m, r=10m, r=0.1m, r=100m (31MW solar field)

@Jkauppa

2 жыл бұрын

if you ask any commercial actors (paid actors, influencers, store sellers) then you will not get an honest assessment of anything, ever

When do we get a video on Fluence?

🚲 ⚡

Everton F.C. are building a stadium right now, by filling in a historic dock, that was in a World Heritage Zone. The United Nations (UNESCO) stripped the city of Liverpool completely of its World Heritage status mentioning the stadium proposals. Besides desecrating the City of Liverpool's heritage, and _world heritage,_ the stadium has about zero eco credentials. The stadium is also too small for such a large football club, with poor public transport access in a city with metro. The stadium is largely waterlocked being on a dock estate causing concern in a crowd panic situation. The out of place stadium was proposed and encouraged by the now deposed philistine city mayor. The owner is an Iranian, with strong Russian oligarch connections, who has little understanding of the city's heritage and culture. The Liverpool City Region mayor, who is above the City of Liverpool mayor, could have blocked the scheme, however he conspired by staying silent. Also Central government stayed silent as one of its city's was to be stripped of World Heritage status - embarrassing for the UK. There was a superior site for a larger stadium as the larger and vacant Garston gasworks site in the city was available, which had few obstacles to planning with a 6-platform parkway station about 500 metres from the site. It is nice to see people do the right thing. Forest Green Rovers deserve success. A pity Premiership club's do not have the same approach.

Love Fully Charged, love the idea of Forest Green, love what they do, very wary of Dale Vince. And I just get the feeling this video, and any featuring him, will age as appallingly as much of the Musk content has

@xxwookey

2 жыл бұрын

I know what you mean, but people who 'get shit done' are often unpleasantly pushy. It comes with the territory. As pushy CEO's go, Mr Vince has a more constructive record than most so I'm inclined to cut him some slack.

@davidpowell8249

2 жыл бұрын

I like the idea of Forest Green, but I switched from Ecotricty to Bulb as their prices were much lower whilst offering the same or better environmental benefit. I felt that Forest Green was Dale Vince's vanity project funded by Ecotricty customers.

I would like to see you challenge the people you are interviewing more. 3.5 billion, 5 billion that's not right

Had a moment there where I seriously misread the title of the first chapter as “…humans…”.

Almost reminds me of the old Baseball parks. Growing up in Cincinnati the park was wooden with wood seats and a human powered score broad. If only they could have put solar power on the old stadium.

@jimsouthlondon7061

2 жыл бұрын

The Bradford City Valley Parade fire .

They're going to need a whole slew of Tesla Superchargers for the green fans.

The fact that it’s vegan is so cool! That’s so much better for the environment.

They say about them being a green football club and building a new stadium out of wood. But one question they won't answer on this new wooden stadium is how many trees will be knocked down to build this new stadium. How green is it going to be when they knock down a thousand trees to build this stadium. Yes they can plant a tree for everyone that get knocked down. But it takes years for trees to fully grow.

@AshArAis

2 жыл бұрын

Trees are faster than coal or plastic, and more of a carbon sink than concrete which is a carbon producer

@t1n4444

2 жыл бұрын

@@AshArAis Hmm, sort of, but concrete will absorb CO2 over its lifetime.

0:43 only vegan food! (:-)

A football stadium made of wood just like the Escalator at kings Cross or the football stadium at Valley Parade Bradford city that caught fire in 1985

how is vegan a thing ?

@simonhenry7867

2 жыл бұрын

It's when you don't eat animal products.

@andymccabe6712

2 жыл бұрын

@@simonhenry7867 just to check - that's not a serious response to the preceding comment, is it........?!?! ..... 'Cos you kept a very straight face..!!

@ndudman8

2 жыл бұрын

@@andymccabe6712 :) and Vegan grass, just made me laugh... so when they cut it they don't kill anything... what about the poor grass which is trampled, or the poor worms ? So vegan means that only artifical fertilizer is used... how is that good for the enviroment, or are they makeing stinging nettle tea or something to water the grass ? Just sounds like more buzz words

@simonhenry7867

2 жыл бұрын

@@andymccabe6712 welcome to the internet, where everyone has a straight face.

If Dale runs that club the same way he runs Ecotricity then in must be an absolute horror show. I joined Ecotricity to be more green but because I had such a bad experience with them, I actually went back to a non-green energy supplier. An utterly garbage company.

@nettlesoup

2 жыл бұрын

I've been an Ecotricity customer for many years and had no issues, other than a brief back-and-forth sorting out the move originally. They've been very fair with their simple pricing package, done a great job hedging to protect us customers from the price increases for as long as they were able to over the past couple of years too. Unlike the many small energy firms who have gone bust selling unprofitable products with no backup plan, meaning the remaining good companies like Ecotricity pick up the tab for others' shady business practices.

@Lewis_Standing

2 жыл бұрын

try octopus, best customer service , green & great tarrifs for EVs

so killing thousens of trees is green ??? this word needs a new start

Isn't a huge building like that a hazard if it's wooden?

@northcountryman

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same

@MrNicholasAaron

2 жыл бұрын

Large Timbers actually take a good while to burn, as compared to stick framing, because the surface area:volume ratio is lower.

@andymccabe6712

2 жыл бұрын

I expect the people who design stadiums know that wood can catch fire......don't you....?!?! However, maybe they should check with KZread first! You know, just to be safe........

@id104335409

2 жыл бұрын

@@andymccabe6712 haha, they should call me.

@wernerrietveld

2 жыл бұрын

Cross laminated timber is actually quite safe in a fire. Worse than concrete, but better than steel, so it matches up against reinforced concrete.

You guys are unknowingly turning HINDU ..good .. do better get more aligned with nature and all it’s constituents .. make a better world

Must go visit, with a bag full of biltong and dried wors, will make a fortune on game day!

I think it's b...l..t that a cutting down trees is green

@andymccabe6712

2 жыл бұрын

Is this something you actually know anything about - or just a kind of hippy, tree-huggy 'feeling'.......?!

@t1n4444

2 жыл бұрын

Suggest the thinking behind the idea is trees are renewable and by using them you avoid using steel and concrete.

No meat pies??? Real meat I mean, seems odd as I thought football fans would demand them or just not show up or have a food truck appear down the road with real ones since the stadium isn't providing.

soccer players should be forced to wear wooden clogs.......to save the planet.

How did you get 3.5 billion 🤣 just dividing the world population in half

Thank you Robert, for using the V word! Absolutely NO environmentalist can be true to themselves unless they are Vegan. It will be lovely to hear the whole of the channel presenter's sharing their Vegan journey.. For The Environment, Go Vegan :)

@mentality-monster

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree.

@jimsouthlondon7061

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget your B12 Supplement

@IanParker

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimsouthlondon7061 wow.. how exciting, Fully Charged fans are now nutritionists. That is something I didn’t think about.. congratulations to the Fully Charged team, for providing information over and above. I’m impressed

@drunkenhobo5039

2 жыл бұрын

If you actually care about environmentalism and want more people to adopt it then it's best not to apply absolute purity rules. You'll just drive people away. Of course if you're just in it to feel smug and self-righteous then go ahead.

@IanParker

2 жыл бұрын

@@drunkenhobo5039 You make a brilliant point - Thank You! me personally, am yet to be convinced that there is a "climate emergency" so for me being Vegan is purely about the animals. Robert and the rest of the team always talk in terms of 'stop burning stuff' meaning fossil fuels and want us all to drive an electric car.. not a hybrid, but an electric car - so they are seeking the absolute purity as you suggest. I'm not smug, but incredibly sarcastic, a bit like Robert has been to me when ever I comment on this channel. I'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the team who all (I guess) claim to be environmentalists, I certainly do not!! By it's very definition it is a known fact that to be an environmentalist the person MUST be Vegan.. not veggie (Robert is veggie I understand) but Vegan. As mentioned, I am skeptical about environmentalism, but watch this channel to educate myself and when I ask questions, not normally associated within this bubble, I treated with utter disregard. So you ask if I feel smug and self-righteous, then no, I take time out of my schedule to learn about electric vehicles, yet when I ask a question.. well that's where Robert comes into his own. But remember he is the long standing environmentalist who has been leading the way on electric vehicles for years, yet will not get educated on the environmental benefits of a vegan lifestyle.. Now do you understand my viewpoint? best wishes.

Yes, Let CHOP DOWN more trees for such stadiums

It’s allllll bullocks wake up !!!

@t1n4444

2 жыл бұрын

Timber buildings aren't a new thing. Perhaps a Google might assist?

Ya lost me at vegan.

@roberthiggins6401

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, a lot of vegan ingredients comes from thousands of miles away so not environmentally friendly. Look at coconut oil, soya, corn to name a few. All the blaming cows for the problems with the environment! We fart too!

@_b-e-n_

2 жыл бұрын

@@roberthiggins6401 what do you think the cows you eat, eat? Veganism cuts out the middle man, so far fewer calories are needed to be produced because you're not using them to fatten up an animal first

@rumanuu

2 жыл бұрын

@@_b-e-n_ Well they aren't soy boys 😛

@_b-e-n_

2 жыл бұрын

@@rumanuu actually a large proportion of the cows people eat are fed soy, among other crops like corn and barley. So many of them are soy boys yes

@andymccabe6712

2 жыл бұрын

Ha! I'll bet they lost you at 'a'......!

Imagine a green hooligan , green swearing, spitting in a garbage bin, drinking organic beer only, vegetarian, driving a 10 year old Prius, stupid tatoos made with green ink, living in a council eco flat... Green England, green football, green hooligans. Yes, the future is bright.

A solar powered coach?? 40 hours charging for 10 miles range. Sorry Bob but I think this whole story is decidedly scamy and a bit bull shity.

What a great example of virtue signaling! I am all for renewable electricity. A fire hazard of a wooden stadium to replace a steel stadium that could last many decades just feels good. It does nothing positive for CO2 production.