Something else worth mentioning: the original novel, the videogame, and the RPG all suggest that Earth experienced a nuclear World War III around the late 20th century. This is given as, for instance, one of the major reasons for the abundance of artificial animals (though artificial pets may become more common IRL as "regular" climate change continues to kill our ecosystem)

@GopherBaroque61

Жыл бұрын

That makes sense, as in Blade Runner 2049, if I remember correctly, Las Vegas seemed to be in or near a radiation zone.

@mokwella

Жыл бұрын

Folks in the BladeRunnerVerse can't catch a break, man.

@jameslyddall

Жыл бұрын

@@GopherBaroque61I just watched that the other night and in 2049 it was a dirty bomb so terrorism. The guy from “I’m the captain now” did a good job as a guy explaining it to K😊

@pin-upmariposa412

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video, as always. Maybe difference between first Blade Runner movie and original novel?

@timothybeaulieu5103

Жыл бұрын

Is there an RPG? As in pen and paper tabletop RPG? As far as I knew, the only thing that came close to Blade Runner was the GURPS Transhuman Space campaign setting by Steve Jackson Games.

I was 16 when I saw Blade Runner in 1982. I am 57 now and still find the film, and the questions it raised, very compelling.

I was working on the set of "Bladerunner" in the street scene where Rachel first appeared in that long gray coat. Everyone just stared at her silently standing there and quietly asked, "Who is THAT???" She was absolutely stunning, so perfect for the role.

@chrispnw2547

5 ай бұрын

The Rachel character made an incredibly powerful statement visually and emotionally. When she had to contemplate being a replicant and emotionally relied on 'memories' to ground her (as we all do), it was sad to see he confused as she realized it was all manufactured. How many of us lived in a 'manufactured state' created by marketers? Something to consider.

@tiffsaver

5 ай бұрын

@@chrispnw2547 We ARE living in a fake reality, just like what the Tyrell Corporation created.

I used to teach Ethics in university. One of my impressions of Blade Runner, Alien, and a few other dystopian universes is the theme of technology without ethics.

@alanparsonsfan

Жыл бұрын

And here we are.

@deltavee2

Жыл бұрын

They exist now: the Big Five Tech Giants

@zapkvr

8 ай бұрын

When Patrick Steptoe invented IVF, Louise's mother was never told she was a guinea pig. That was in 1978. Years before Bladerunner

@BrandonDeft

8 ай бұрын

I won't freely tell people about being an ethics coach in a government run facility, aka a university that further pushes out peoples abilty to form free thoughts. Keep your head up....

@gilanbarona9814

8 ай бұрын

@@BrandonDeft My old university was NOT owned by any government. We actually understood the meaning of academic and moral freedom.

What I like about 2049 is it takes the question of the original and expands upon it rather than trying to recreate it. The original deals with the question of "What is a Human?" while 2049 tackles the question "What is Real?", especially in light of a digital age (think Joi, not real, but you feel as if the relationship is and has a real impact, only for you to completely rethink the reality of it near the end when the pink Joi we see all over the advertising asks "are you a good Joe?" and we all realize it's just programming, not actual affection)

@julius-stark

Жыл бұрын

I do agree with you, but when you think about it, how do you know a human really loves you? Just because someone says they love you doesn't stop them from lying, cheating, manipulating, or abusing you. However, you could argue an AI like Joi has a more pure love even if it is programming. You know with 100% certainty that they care about you. Its a great topic for discussion.

@stevepirie8130

Жыл бұрын

That was brutal as in her last moment she’d told him she loved him.

@RCAvhstape

Жыл бұрын

@@stevepirie8130 It is a very brutal scene. It hits K when he's at rock bottom. He's a fugitive from the LAPD, the replicant rebels want him to murder Deckard, and his holographic girlfriend's love may never have been real. Everything he loved or might've stood for is shot to shit. But it's also when he decides to be an actual hero and risk his life to go save Deckard. He stands up and goes out swinging, becoming more human than human.

@GrayNeko

Жыл бұрын

Very well said, sir! I loved that flip! An artificial person with an artificial lover. It makes me very, very, sad for us all.

@alanparsonsfan

Жыл бұрын

@Matthew Stark My take on BR2049 was that it went further and asks the question, "who has a soul?" In the anime about the Blackout, the warror replicant thought not. The impression I got in the actual 2049 file was that if you were born rather than 'assembled', you would have a soul. So Rachel's daughter was thought to. The original had the 'tears in rain' speech. The most haunting, moving line in 2049 for me was, "We all wished it was us!".

Hi Tyler, As I recall in "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?", there is a couple of sentences about a failed attempt to colonise Proxima Centauri and the colonists had to return to earth. It is further stated that there are children born on the return journey and the androids tend to pass themselves as some of those children. Thx

@weldonwin

Жыл бұрын

Its also a big stretch, but there is an extended version of Roy Batty's tears in the rain speech, where he speaks about being on the back deck of an experimental jump-ship as it went FTL

@dukecraig2402

Жыл бұрын

​@@weldonwin It's a shame they didn't film the originally conceived beginning of Blade Runner, it started out with Roy waking up under a pile of bodies, presumably Replicants, after being knocked unconscious during a battle, then it went into him running from a force that was cleaning up after the battle for fear he'd be killed just to be replaced by another, or something along those lines anyways. There were storyboards drawn up by Scott but nothing was ever filmed due to budget restrictions and the fact that Roy's narrative during the "tears in the rain" dialog could cover it for the sake of story telling, but by its description it'd have been very visual and included things like the moon beams reflecting off of whatever and the other things he described in his dialog.

@leoelliott5205

Жыл бұрын

@@dukecraig2402 very powerful stuff. I always wondered about the replicants back story and how they all managed to hook up as a team. THAT is a story that needs to be told

@berniekatzroy

Жыл бұрын

Dont forget there a prequel novel to DADOEF

@eottoe2001

Жыл бұрын

@@weldonwin what that the Tannhäuser Gate or different? TY

There was one line that always struck me, and made my mind wander to all the distinct possibilities that this movie opened up. When Rutger Hauer's character, Roy was describing his experiences to Deckard, one of them was seeing "attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion." That conjured a visual in my mind that was for me, not cinematically realized until Star Trek Deep Space Nines fleet battles with the Dominion. I look back now in awe, and think how thought provoking Roys soliloquy really was.

@gawkthimm6030

Жыл бұрын

that sentence and the circumstances he say them in even encapsulates the cyberpunk definition; "lowlife and high tech" - featuring futuristic technological and scientific achievements, such as artificial intelligence and cybernetics, juxtaposed with societal collapse, dystopia or decay.

@dukecraig2402

Жыл бұрын

The line that really set the hook in my mouth and was literally the template for my life for years to come was "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...". At 17 when I saw Blade Runner in 1982 that line had a seriously profound affect on me and made me want to be able to say that one day, and I realized there and then that there was only one way to be able to say that one day in life, you have to go out and do the things that you're average person wouldn't ever even consider doing, so I struck out and did them. First thing out of high school the next year was off to the Army with a guaranteed posting overseas in Europe, next thing after that was living in the biker world for years, and that was back before the fad hit when every Tom, Dick, Harry and Lawyer and Doctor got a Harley, back in the day when you saw someone on one and you KNEW what kind of person they were, back before the fad hit and you didn't know what kind of person might be sitting on one. On top of that was being an ironworker for years traveling from city to city putting up buildings and bridges, then there's an era I can't say too awful much about that lasted for years but I will say comparing it to Han Solo's profession wouldn't be too awfully far off the mark, I had my own version of the Millennium Falcon and would take routes in life that would best avoid any "Imperial entanglements" you could say. Perhaps I'd have been better off in life now that I'm older had I not been struck so deeply by those words when I heard Rutger Hauer speak them, there is a downside to living a life like that, but they just made me imagine a life of adventures and thrills that it takes to one day say to someone I've seen things you people wouldn't believe, and wherein I've never actually said that to anyone I certainly could, but I did say to someone once, holding my hand up as high as my shoulder "I've got a pile of stories this high, and they're all true". I don't have to make them up, I've earned every one of them and have the scars to prove it.

@nolesy34

Жыл бұрын

Yes hes describing a thing that happens as "you know that old chestnut" In times of old people were like that when Christopher columbus went to America and was trying to describe the cities of Spain to natives... providing he could translate at first

@nolesy34

Жыл бұрын

@@dukecraig2402 you should either tour with a group to have people to talk to, hear me out Because these people on tour who have done many talk like that "Oh the pyramids of Giza have been eroding lately i wish president so and so would... " Like wow.. active in international restorations

@dukecraig2402

Жыл бұрын

@@nolesy34 I have absolutely no clue what that means, in either one of your posts. Old chestnuts? Pyramids?

I love that Blade Runner, Alien, Predator, Total Recall and Soldier all happened in the same Universe.

@junior602002

Жыл бұрын

Also Firefly/Serenity.

@blueconcretezebra

Жыл бұрын

Also Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou,

@dennislogan6781

Жыл бұрын

@@Proximo. Yes

@m_tth_w9647

Жыл бұрын

😮damn fr?

@gager73

Жыл бұрын

Have you seen the movie "Moon" with Sam Rockwell? Bio-engineered human... implanted memories... temporary operating time/lifespan... working in hazardous environment off-world.

Cyberpunk is my favourite genre. I will never get enough of it.

@jczeus

Жыл бұрын

Hi there, I want to talk to you about ducts.

@teampyro911

Жыл бұрын

Totally!!!!!

I think the primary message is what it means to be human. Not just sentient, but actually human. Empathy plays a huge role in that message and even 3% of humans lack empathy. When Rachel asked Deckard if he’d ever taken that test himself it was to spark the terror of someone suddenly finding out they are not human and trigger the empathy that should be born of that.

What I love the most about Blade Runner is the subtle world building it does - for example the Voight-Kampff test outside control questions is almost entirely to do with animal suffering, and we're also told in the first film that most of Earth's fauna has mostly died out to be replaced with Replicant animals. This makes actual, biologically natural animals even more precious, and cruelty towards them being cast further into moral abhorrence than what it is now. Blade Runner is still my favorite film I've ever seen, I couldn't recommend it higher to people who are curious about it

@ericlewis3681

Жыл бұрын

It was THE LAST STAR FILM!

@jwsoaresjones1560

Жыл бұрын

Blade Runner is mind-bendingly great.

@CM-qp9eb

Жыл бұрын

I was lucky enough to be on this earth when the first movie came out. Most of my friends thought it was too slow but they just didn't get it. I thought it was incredible, and I still do. It laid the groundwork for so many other sci-fi films that came after it. 2049 was very good but like a lot of movies that become their own universe ( like the first Star Wars, Alien, Ghost in the Shell, or The Matrix ) the original will always be the best one. Still one of my favorites. 👍

@paulhunter6742

8 ай бұрын

How do feel about Blade Runner 2049, although tackle most same issues, for me seem lack certain quality of Orginal Blade Runner. And biggest question of all was Decker himself more advanced Replicant? Wallace seems hint at fact that Rachel was designed to be compatible with him.

The book is very different. Not as iconic but very substantial. I'll never forget the scene with the "vet" and the cat

@austinricky

Жыл бұрын

Yea. Mercerism is a big aspect and more focused on material things .. treating Andy’s as more objects than sentient beings.

@anon-yw4wd

Жыл бұрын

The book was excellent and super depressing.

@joeminpa6705

Жыл бұрын

Reading the book got me way into reading more PKD. I really like Ubik, wonder if they will ever make that into a movie.

@davidlean1060

Жыл бұрын

@@anon-yw4wd That's every PKD book I've ever read though! lol

@petercollingwood522

Жыл бұрын

@@davidlean1060 I was about to say the same thing, when I read your comment.

Many men are living like K is living in 2049. Loneliness, artificial gf, alcohol, repressed emotions ... If you want, make video on that part of movie. Maybe it will be helpful.

As much as I enjoy your deep dives into Star Trek glad to see you interested in other things as well. Love it or not to much of the same thing make anyone burn out.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Raymond! I'm glad someone appreciates me diving into other franchises

@edumaker-alexgibson

Жыл бұрын

@@OrangeRiver +1

@paulhunter6742

8 ай бұрын

I enjoy Tyler's straight forward well researched reviews. And slight puns too.

Ridley Scott has said that he considers Blade Runner and Alien to be in the same universe. I personally put Predator and Soldier in there as well, and also the 1981 Sean Connery sci-fi action film Outland all in the same universe.

@chrisinnes2128

Жыл бұрын

The man in the high castle is from the same universe too

@xxnoxx-xp5bl

Жыл бұрын

Ridley also said that Blade Runner's are replicants... The man can't write and can safely be ignored.

@ricksmith3045

Жыл бұрын

@@subraxas Written by Philip K. Dick.

@jamesmurray8558

Жыл бұрын

I always thought that was the case.

@michelleschultz472

Жыл бұрын

Don't see it.

I love the art style of this genre. Great video.

when I used to write fanfiction, I combined a lot of sci-fi that was centered around LA, including TERMINATOR, STRANGE DAYS, THE MATRIX, DETROIT: BECOMING HUMAN, DEMOLITION MAN, BLADE RUNNER, CYBERPUNK 2099, TRON, ESCAPE FROM LA and many others that I could remember to include at the time. This fusion created a near-future LA that had been split in half by a powerful earthquake, resulting in West LA being an island prison facility, while East LA is a false Eden, complete with technological marvels, that hides a "cold war" between Man, hologram, AI, cyborg and machines, each faction with its own agenda.

@jmgonzales7701

Жыл бұрын

personally other than the cyberpunk genre the next punk i like is atom punk. Then for sci fi i like dune.

@JimBrodie

Жыл бұрын

It's like the Morlock and the Eloi all over again...

@AG-AG

11 ай бұрын

This sounds absolutely insane! Did you ever publish this idea?

@dswynne

11 ай бұрын

@@AG-AG No, unfortunately. Or, rather, fortunately. I admit it, it was pretty bad, as in not publishable. I think I was going through a phase back then...

@AG-AG

11 ай бұрын

@@dswynne still, might you take another more grounded shot that that premise and world? Maybe explore things beyond LA?

It's kinda spooky how much our sci-fi tastes overlap. Just last night I was catching up with a childhood friend and we shared Blade Runner nostalgia and philosophy for probably an hour.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Haha, nice!

It's not too big a stretch to imagine that the movie Outland (1981), with Sean Connery and Peter Boyle, also takes place in the Blade Runner universe. The action is set on Io, one of Jupiter's moons.

@paulhunter6742

8 ай бұрын

Outland with Sean Connery is excellent film set bout same time period. But, I got impression based classic western HIGH Noon.

One off-world colony is explored in the Kurt Russell movie, "Soldier". There are a number of visible cues that place us in the "Blase Runner" 'verse.

Joi may have been one of the most tragic and haunting instances of intelligence in the entire movie. Partially due to her existence’s commentary of consciousness, but even simpler than that… The core struggle of the protagonist was to establish himself as a person, central to which was the idea he could love and be loved. Joi was at the center of that, his personal proof it was possible. Until that was brought into question if she was even capable of that. The sight of a Joi (not his, but one much like her) parroting her words of adoration shattered his senses of meaning. It robbed her affection and sacrifice of any of the real depth that, for all we know, she actually COULD have genuinely felt.

Given the common author for the source materials, it's worth considering that Blade Runner and Total Recall take place in the same story universe.

@stevepirie8130

Жыл бұрын

That was how I’d pictured the off world colonies. You have to work for the company and the more valued work you carry out the better life you have. Loyalties to company before nation or we don’t feed you or your air supply gets cut off. Replicants can work in horrible environs, don’t need much by way of food or water, don’t have complications like families, don’t need paid much, etc. Throwaway work force without human slavery.

@rogergeyer9851

Жыл бұрын

Greg Camp: PKD (Philip K. Dick) was PROLIFIC. He wrote a MASSIVE amount of SF novels and short stories in the 50's through early 80's. I don't think that just because he wrote two novels (which movies were based on) means at ALL that the story universes had anything to do with each other. And I'm a HUGE Dickhead (slang for PKD fan) who has read a LOT of his stuff and seen the various movies based on his work. Plus I've read quite a bit of commentary / analysis of his work from both before and after he died.

One of the few films that have this "intangible believability" that make me wish to be immersed in that world and to explore it. I'm convinced that if there was a _Blade Runner_ part of a Disney/Universal theme park, it would be a hit....as long as you like constant rain and night.

@Bolter024

7 ай бұрын

Lol Disney having Blade Runner.. would cuck the franchise to high heaven

I was waiting for someone to mention Soldier in the comments, but you beat your subscribers to the punch! Very well done, OrangeRiver!

@rogergeyer9851

Жыл бұрын

mrgreatbigmoose: I never even thought of that parallel, and I really liked "Soldier" a lot. I thought Kurt Russel played the part just amazingly well. I just loved the line where when he was asked about what he felt as a soldier and his unemotional response was "Fear and Discipline, always." Being the child of highly disciplined depression era parents, I felt a HUGE surge of empathy / similarity to his character at that point.

Not to forget the DS9 episode where O'Brien is kidnapped and replaced by a "replicant". "He thought he was you."

2049 hit me hard when I saw it in the theater. When the credits rolled, I did not move. I couldn't. I was never a BR fanboy although I thought it was a great film. But I felt like I really *experienced* 2049 as it was playing out. What a triumph of filmmaking.

Ridley Scott has said that Alien and Blade Runner are in the same universe as well 🤷‍♂️

I never thought it was about interstellar travel, but about the Moon, Mars and asteroids. For example, the Barnard's Loop in Orion can be seen in astronomical pictures and in that new eyepiece called OVNI, which enhance night vision. Which is amazing by the way. I just saw Barnard's Loop 2 weeks ago with that OVNI, and it was astonishing! So we may imagine that the Nexus 6 model have enhanced vision, and therefore he is able to see the "Orion's Loop" and even cosmic rays.

@worksbydandeprez

Жыл бұрын

OVNI is the Spanish equivalent of "UFO."

@bbbenj

Жыл бұрын

@@worksbydandeprez I wasn't talking about UFO, as Unknown Flying Object, but about an eyepiece for astronomy called OVNI, which enhance night vision due to a chemical reaction inside it.

Love Blade Runner and Soldier, the 2nd generation new soldiers being replicants is implied a few times. One of the few digital retcons I wouldn't mind, a Batty or Deckard clone cameo.

@pwnmeisterage

Жыл бұрын

The second movie featured a new replicant intended to copy Rachael. So it seems plausible for a copy of Batty to be made. And a copy of Deckard, if the original was a replicant.

@RCAvhstape

Жыл бұрын

I was under the impression the older generation of Soldiers were also replicants. Kurt Russel's character has never lived a normal human life, he's only ever been around other soldiers and has no idea how to behave in social settings.

@Dc-alpha

Жыл бұрын

@@RCAvhstape Nah, they show them getting assigned 1A at birth, the two senior officers also discuss it. "The old ones are picked at birth, the new are engineered", or some such. This implies , or implied to me the old ones were taken into the "program" at birth.

@RCAvhstape

Жыл бұрын

@@Dc-alpha Oh, okay, I forgot about that scene.

The Blade Runner universe is also the same as the Alien franchise, there's a connection between the Weyland Corporation and Blade Runner's Tyrell Corporation in Prometheus, and even a shot of the USS Sulaco in BR2049

A lot of information in this episode. Blade Runner is one of my all time favorite movies, right up there with 2001 A Space Odyssey good job 👍🏼

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Charles!

@christreedee

Жыл бұрын

@@OrangeRiver Soldier 1998 shows one off world colony

What I love about blade runner is the idea of city states kinda like dredd in a sense Los Angeles is it’s own government. What’s happened to other sections of the USA or the planet? Being British id love to know what’s happened to countries like England in the blade runner world and seeing many nuclear horror films like threads it’s interesting to get an idea of this cyberpunk technological future while other places remain battered by nuclear devastation. Although it’s never mentioned on film there’s been a nuclear war.

@musicilike69

Жыл бұрын

Not sure there would be anything in the UK apart from techno barbarians. In a nuclear war premise the S of England is going to get pasted. If SIOP(the US n war plan) has some target cties getting hit by multiple devices London is going to be erased, it's target rich with hardened key buildings and underground ones too..they'll all get a seperate device each. 5-15 hits seems to be what the analysts think in a Threads type context which is REAL WORLD British Army estimate..the whole thing is based on a civil def exercise that was so horrid in what the army thought would happen 38 Councils refused to take part. 220 megatons.

Thank you. I'm a huge fan of the Bladerunner series, and I really enjoyed your elaboration on their content. I also like your "off color" skintone and blue background. Somehow it matches your topic perfectly.

This could not have come out at a more perfect time. I just finished the book and watched the movies for the first time. Great video as alway 👍

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Landon!

Great dive into this fantastic world. Thanks!

An extremely well done examination of setting elements in story. Thank you, sir.

There's really a *lot* of classic sci-fi that assumed we'd have been climbing to more and more space efforts for the past sixty years at least, rather than dragging our feet at best since the US won the Moon race, so that kind of 'alternate timeline' tends to be there unless someone shoves dates a long way forward from the originals. But especially if they found some kind of jumpgate, you wouldn't have to be *that* much more high tech to colonize space, especially if they could overcome the boost mass problems of getting started by means of whatever tech makes the cars and billboards fly. That stuff could very well mean they could just float stuff and people out into orbit and work from there.

I fell in love with the actress who plays Joi.

@SteveMacSticky

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, pretty nubbalicious

@edkwon

Жыл бұрын

Ana de Armas

Excellent video! One of my favorite short stories by Phillip K. Dick that turned into a great movie (or movies, since Scott changed it a few times). I like the branch into other franchises.

Thank you for posting this brilliantly put together video and a concise breakdown explaining the amazing Blade Runner universe. Excellently done. Love how you covered all aspects craftfully and even covered hidden links to the other aspects of the Blade Runner universe.👍

The character Roy's "tears in the rain" speech seems to make it quite clear that replicants were used in interstellar situations: "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion... I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to die." Orion is certainly not in our solar system and the Tannhäuser Gate was apparently something that enabled faster than light travel between star systems.

@88feji

Жыл бұрын

I was disappointed they did not show the Tannhauser Gate in the sequel or the off-world colony .... ... and chose to turn it into a family soap opera regarding a long lost child with everything still taking place on earth .... its not as sci fi as the first movie frankly, suddenly Deckard is wearing jeans and tshirt like its Deckard playing Harrison Ford the actor instead .... and Gaff is an old bloated uncle sitting in an old folks home, suddenly all of them look so uncool and contemparory rather than futuristic ...

Ridley Scot, and James Cameron have also stated that the Alien franchise is a part of Blade Runner universe. One Corp focusing on Android tech, while Tyrell and Wallace focused on genetic manipulation.

Something to consider for the Section "Off World Colonies", The original Story was published in 1968. Imagining Space Colonies by 2019 was not that far out an idea. You did explain it quite well but placing it back to brink of Apollo 11 makes the idea even more feasible. Truly enjoyed this. Thanks for putting in the time for research and production.

Really nice, comprehensive primer. Good use of clips, I enjoyed myself

The original film bewildered me when it came out. 2049 I absolutely loved. Thanks for clarifying things 👍

I was like 5 or 6 when Blade Runner hit theaters. Rachel did a lot of the work in forming my sense of human beauty.

TYLER you're a gem for including SOLDIER which is, imo, a very underrated film-- and anyone who likes Isaacs as Lorca, would love his military jerkface here

As a casual fan of the Blade Runner movie for decades - I never delved into the books and lore, despite enjoying the world building that seemed to go on in the movie. This vid puts it all in perspective - especially with the anime info included. You've answered loads of questions I've always had, but couldn't be bothered to look into. haha I now feel I should give the books a read. So this comment is to just give your vid some audience interaction, a thumbs up, and a thanks. Thanks, dude.

Great video, gave me a lot to think about and opened my eyes to the Blade Runner universe a bit more.

That was really cool! I had seen Blade Runner (years ago, like the 90's) ... but I didn't remember much about it, and I didn't remember much ... Great video! Thanks for expanding my knowledge brother man!

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Clint!

The original book sends a horrifying message. Because its later revealed that a) there are androids infiltrating society, to the point that a separate police force exists, that doesn't know about other police units exist, they[androids] run the most popular TV show, running24/7 , because they dont need to sleep and shockingly none of the viewers notices b)having a "empathy" is extremely vague and it exist a possibility that someone can be accused of being an android and shot dead. Empathy is mainly measured in response to animal cruelty. Genuinely if you're able to care about an animal you are considered human. Also androids can evoke empathy in humans c) NOBODY ,except police , knows that androids are on earth d) company responsible for creation of androids openly wants to push them even further so that they are as similar to humans as possible, to the point that they cannot be recognised by tests. e) humans that are sociopathic/lacking empathy are locked away. f) Earth is said to be almost empty and desolate due to people going away and colonising other planets, there is trash EVERYWHERE and nobody is doing anything with it.

@ronzombie6541

11 ай бұрын

Humans that are psychopathic are made CEO's, military leaders, and politicians in our time line.

@paulhunter6742

8 ай бұрын

Aww! but you missed point vast majority of average people Aren't going to Off World colonies. Therefore, the increasing need for more advanced Replicants. From few hints given Off World colonies very harsh and dangerous conditions. Unless of course you have trillions dollars like Tyrell or Wallace.

@vokunrogue3384

8 ай бұрын

@@paulhunter6742 I've only seen this trope explored in the movie tbh, i didn't notice anything about it in the book. The message is clearly "get money and gtfo from planet" and the emptiness of Earth is almost palpable

@luisderivas6005

8 ай бұрын

It's also quite clear that the planet is in the aftermath of a thermonuclear war. Deckard wore a lead cod piece when going out to protect the 'family jewels'. Also lots of mention of the 'dust' getting into everything, birds falling out of the sky, and animal die offs. It's part of the reason he considers buying an electric animal, end eventually the electric sheep.

Very thorough and thoughtful analysis. Thank you. I'm happy to subscribe and look forward to more.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thanks David!

Very well put together

Amazing video. Recently watched 2049 and was curious about the world and universe of this franchise. You explained it very well and you speak with precision

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ishaan!

Blade Runner is so subversive. The "Bad guy" of the film is actually the hero and the hero of the film fails almost completely; just like indiana jones everyone that died would have died even if Deckard wasn't involved. And when he actually does retire a replicant he shoots her in the back while she is running away. Some hero eh? That's why I love the film so much, I don't think there has ever been anything quite like it.

Years later it look like they banned replicants and started to build Androids instead, because the Alien universe is part of the Blade Runner universe according to Ridley Scott. The same with the Movie Outland with Sean Connery, because the makers said the same.

Great rundown on the movie and surrounding issues.. TY

Good video. Though I'm surprised you didn't briefly touch on Mercerism, the predominant religion in the book "Do Android Dream of Electric Sheep?". A religion whose goal was to increase empathy for a society that was starting lose it. A trend that arguably shows the line between replicant and human was starting to blend.

Great video. I remember a couple of years ago I watched the 2016 film "Morgan", which was directed by Luke Scott (Ridley Scott's son) and thought it was set to be a prequel to Blade Runner. I won't add any spoilers but I definitely recommend checking it out.

Watching OrangeRiver videos in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate... Thanks for the video

An excellent presentation! 👏🏽 Very well done sir!

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Outstanding video, my friend. You never seem to forget to be awesome! 😃

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Bill!

Thanks Tyler, another fantastic choice and very inspiring video.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Jasper!

Articulate, concise, and accurate, delightful. More to come along please.

I watched Black Out and I was really sad that it was a short! I for some reason thought it would be a full film... :/

You intelligently covered all points and angles in my humble opinion. I won't get too strange, but lets say you were very spot on in emphasizing, "Private", investment and development in interstellar travel technology. Just like there have been the building of, "Private", Militaries. I think the extent of actual progress might be revealed sometime in our lifetime. Superb video.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Leslie!

If Spinners rely on some sort of anti-gravity technology, then they'd have a tremendous advantage in launching massive ships/stations and quantities of fuel into space.

Wow! Incredible analysis 👏 You are a genius. Great channel! Keep up the great work 👍

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Haha thanks Scott!

Excellent as always.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Graham!

Great video, now you got me thinking about the HFCU.... trying to think how "Regarding Harry" plays into this whole universe...

@rikk319

Жыл бұрын

That's "Regarding Henry".

@Nitero_

Жыл бұрын

@@rikk319 meh close enough

Really good video mate, really enjoyed. Loved Blade Runner since it was first released. All the best pal, cheers…

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Well, Blade Runners Los Angeles looks a lot more inviting than some parts of present-day Los Angeles.

I think Robocop much more exemplifies our current lives but I do love the Blade Runner universe.👍

Okay the mention of the battles by Roy at the end of the first movie, were alluded to in Soldier if you look at Sgt. Todd's arm Tattoos and was mentioned by one of the colonists on the trash planet. I think that is where some of the Replicants came from for use in the off world colonies. Sgt. Todd and is group were replaced by a newer better soldier where Todd was actually born and selected just after birth into the program to be a soldier. During is battle career you see some of the conflicts he was in and a part of and one battle you see him in and vacuum EVA suite fighting just not sure what world he was on during that campaign.

I was looking for a video like this, because blade runner has always been extremely confusing for me, especially since I watched 2049 first. Probably will have to rewatch them now.

Thanks Tyler, more great content. Could you do another Blade Runner recap with inclusions of the links between the Alien, Predator, and other potential Universe lore.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

I considered mentioning those in my video, but I don't really think the connection's that strong tbh

I'm currently writing a short story that I'm hoping to turn into a graphic novel in the Blade Runner universe. Seeing as how Ridley stated in an interview that the BR and Alien universe are shared backgrounds, tied up with the 'Soldier' movie starring Kurt Russel. I've written a story that ties all of this up into a neat little package.

@Bolter024

7 ай бұрын

Riddley has zero authority, he didn't write the source material

Nice piece. Hope they make a 3rd movie. Don't read the Blade Runner sequel, it wasn't written by PKD. 😁👍

Thank you, I've always wanted to know more about my favorite movie Blade Runner, and it's equal.

In addition to Soldier, was a bit surprised you did mention Blade Runner universe ties to Outland and the Alien franchise.

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

I considered it, although while Ridley Scott has hinted at a connection, personally I find it to be rather tenuous

@jack_k2136

Жыл бұрын

@OrangeRiver thanks for the response. Interesting. I believe there are actually logos in OUTLAND. Outland a super underrated movie IMHO.

What a timely video (for me personally). I recently finished a screenplay treatment for a Blade Runner film sequel that takes place largely off world and features one such envisioned colony. If you'd like to give it a read let me know and I'll send it your way.

@BariumCobaltNitrog3n

Жыл бұрын

I don't know what you consider a treatment, but it sounds like this is not something you take seriously. He's not a producer, why would he want to read it? Do you have a production company? In any guilds? Who will write the screenplay? Does it have a title? Tagline? Character names? Any budget? And why ask anyway? Why not just email it to him, a random stranger on YT. Curious.

@make.and.believe

Жыл бұрын

@BariumCobaltNitrog3n I enjoy feedback from individuals who are familiar with the source material. In a narrative as complex as the Blade Runner universe, it is very easy to miss important details when writing, no matter how much one has researched, and peer review and critique helps craft a better story. If one were to pitch this specific treatment, it would need to be to Warner Media, as they own the film production and distribution rights. I don't like to spam folks with unsolicited emails, so I thought I would ask if OrangeRiver was interested in reading it. Cheers,

Tyrell was a replicant too. After batty kills Sebastian, he finds an elevator that takes him to a secret room in Tyrells pyramid. The real Tyrell is in suspended animation kept alive with cancer while his artificial Tyrell replicant takes care of him and runs his company. It's why Batty was so well designed; replicant were being made by replicant (like the terminators). Each generation becoming progressively better. JUST THOUGHT ID SHARE!

@alanparsonsfan

Жыл бұрын

@Jr VERY interesting; source please?

@Jr-md8fg

Жыл бұрын

@@alanparsonsfan I read it as original script online years ago I have no footnote or source. Tyrells head was meant to break open and computer parts spill out but they broke the 10,000 dollar prop so the Tyrell as replicant line was dropped.

@astronomenov99

Жыл бұрын

@@Jr-md8fg but replicants are 100% biological. No machine parts.

@Cliffo-me8wn

9 ай бұрын

May I recommend the K. W. Jeter trilogy which follows Deckard’s search for truth….

Great analysis and breakdown of both films. Thanks for explaining Tannhauser Gate. I must check out Soldier. Thanks for the tip.

This is my 2nd most favorite Sci-Fi "world". Such depth and visual experiences.

The most fascinating idea in 2049 for me was the Emanator, which somehow gave a holographic entity the ability to 'travel' beyond their projector. A completely maddening concept since it violates the underlying principles of holography, but then in the original Blade Runner the ability to delve deep into photographic evidence as if one was right there examining the scene similarly violated physics. I appreciated the consistency in both movies.

@TheOriginalJackTChance

10 ай бұрын

It seems to me that the Emanator is simply the Blade Runner equivalent of the Light Bee in Red Dwarf, and the Mobile Holo Emitter in Star Trek: Voyager. 😉👍

If you read 'Sitchin's , 'Wars of Gods & Men' ', you realize that PKD was doing the Clark/Asimov/Bradbury "Channelling-Thing", and putting his Day-Mares into print.

Thanks for the inspiration for a blog post about JOI

I'm surprised I didn't hear any mention of Blade Runners connection to the "Aliens" Universe. That would make a great next video.

@warrenslittleworld1387

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

A very impressive video on the Bladerunner alternative reality! 👏

@OrangeRiver

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Kahl!

Welcome back sir 👏

Wasn't Blade Runner also linked to the alien and predator franchise? If so that explains what the colonies look like. Along with some of the wars they talk about.

@cyntogia

Жыл бұрын

Sort of. It's implied to be connected yet the timeliness don't sync.

@88feji

Жыл бұрын

Sure hope they do not bring the Predator franchise into the BR universe ... it cheapens the BR universe. I thought they did the Alien vs Predator movies for cheesy gimmick appeal to attract fanboys...

Somehow, modern-day replicant Geoff Keighley still manages to avoid "retirement"

@nolesy34

Жыл бұрын

Bugger gets tipped on when his voight test is on by the captain, replicant; Sgt Alonzo

Your explaination and overview is much better than some who just ramble on

Thanks Tyler, for me it was all about the powerful corrupt and the powerless masses trying to survive, a story for all ages. But it also evoked private detective stories like Sam Spade and Mike Hammer, which is why I loved the version with the monologue (even though, apparently Harrison Ford didn't like that aspect). The replicants' aspiration to be human and included in human society as such, reflects Asimov's Robot series with androids fettered by those simple 3 rules produced amazingly complex human behaviour. The core message, I think, was of every "othered" entity's desire to be included, and this of course is what it means to be a slave - as Roy Batty puts it. It very much also reminded me of Pinnochio and, of course, Astro Boy / Mighty Atom.

I'm less familiar with the BR universe - thanks for the education! 👍

I love the Blade Runner setting! But there is also a massive plot hole in it. Why don't they design replicants to look obviously non human? They could make them all blue. Give them pointy ears. Then identification would cease to be a problem.

@retrorevivalsuperturbo9428

11 ай бұрын

Like Rogue Trooper.

@somebodysomewhere6770

7 ай бұрын

Later models sort of did that with the serial number in their eyes.

@jaktwo

5 ай бұрын

my theory is that one of the biggest reasons replicants were invented is not only to do work, but specifically sex work (or sex slavery), so it just made sense in the universe because people wanted the experience to be as genuine as possible

"And all those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain..."

That outro music is banging

Seems to me that the world of Blade Runner is the world we are headed for. Often we like to assume we are headed for the utopian society of Federation era Star Trek, but the reality is that we are headed more for a Borg like structure, and the Blade Runner world - being not too far off - is a step in that journey. We already have unregulated mega-corporations with a higher GDP than many countries, limited climate change with a very bad trajectory, governments and institutions with largely sociopathic tendencies, etc. No to mention the burgeoning technologies of human genetic engineering, epigenetics, AI, and so on. Like many future history novels, it's projection is likely 100 years too early - but by the 22ndC this may well be our reality.

@remc0s

Жыл бұрын

The "utopian" society of Star Trek is actually terrifying. You could only achieve this by having all people share the same values, which is only possible through brainwashing people or forcing them to be "good" and keep them in check through some fascist system like communism or a social credit system. Gene Roddenberry didn't take human nature into account; humanity itself is imperfect, so it is literally impossible to create a perfect society. A perfect society also sounds really boring, like in Demolition Man.

@GrahamAstles

Жыл бұрын

@@remc0s I think I would agree with you.

This my favorite movie of all time. I sincerly feel like we got ripped off. When I was 12 I imagined this was our future. Now we have a dystopian society, but no cyberpunk Blade Runner world. What a downer.

@1pcfred

Жыл бұрын

As the godfather of cyberpunk said, The future is here now, it just isn't evenly distributed yet.