I don’t care if you see the movie or not tbh lmaoooo. I said what I said. Feel free to refer to thee sources in thee description box. I’m not arguing with a soul. If you want to let White people tell your history and let you think they were less evil than your own people in regards to slave trading so be it but DO YOUR RESEARCH 🤷🏽‍♀️. Watch the video in full 🙏🏽✨

@josm1206

Жыл бұрын

You think attributing evil to race doesn't make you look a racist? 😂😂😂 But it's cute you think your race and gender defines you. If you ever achieve anything worthwhile in your life you might realise it doesn't and you might get off your mental plantation.

@tommieaurelien9898

Жыл бұрын

I haven’t seen the movie but I know before the movie I did my research about dahomey warriors when I was watching a youTuber who was talking about the African diaspora his name is home team and he explain that in one point the dahomey warriors they were heroes this is how they were symbolise but they were also trained to serve the The king so they had to listen because he was the one that was controlling them and he owned these women so they had to follow him and I remember Lupita Nyong’o when she went to Benin she was supposed to be in the movie but she refused because she discovered the truth about dahomey warriorsThat there is old people but not only people the children because in a documentary it explains the woman she is from Nigeria and she was stolen from her parents in her country she explained that they stole her from her parents and she was a prisoner in Benin

@josm1206

Жыл бұрын

@@tommieaurelien9898 the last slaves (illegally) transported to the US were captured and sold by the Dahomey in 1860. Some survived into the 1930's and told how the dahomey only took the young and fit and slaughtered the rest. The children had to carry their parents heads to the Dahomey town. The Dahomey were famous for taking heads, jaws and genitalia as war trophies. The 'real' Nanisca was reported beheading slaves and drinking their blood in 1889. The Dahomey were so feared the local kings asked the French to defend them, against the Dahomey. The Dahomey invaded a local kingdom and the king pointed at the French tricolour and told the Dahomey the French protected them. So, an Agojie beheaded him and wrapped his head in the tricolour and sent it to the French. And so started the first Franco Dahomey war. The Dahomey were brutal and only gave up slavery because they were forced to, when the French invaded in the 1890's.

@josm1206

Жыл бұрын

@@tommieaurelien9898 oh, the book containing an interview with the last slaves imported into the US is called Barracoon. It's an interesting read.

@tommieaurelien9898

Жыл бұрын

@@josm1206 But they were also victims the Dahomey Warriors they were also victims because the king ordered them to do that to sell people into traffic children in other tribes to sell them to the Europeans look at the Arabs they went to Europe to get white people to be slaved in the Middle East but there wasn’t any race concept insideBut look what they did to white women they fetishise white women the Arabs that were called the barbers

I find it funny how we are we are quick to point out our differences in our nationalities as black people in modern times ,yet can keep the same energy for ancient Africa. We got F.B.A separating them selves from the other black diaspora or Afro Latino distancing themselves as well. Yet, we all identify all Africans as the same.

@Mattdog_YT

Жыл бұрын

F.B.A were the main ones that wasn’t separating themselves from the black diaspora, it was Africans that when they came to the United States separated themselves from FBA, same thing with the Caribbean

I’m glad that you talked about the nuances of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and WHY African tribes sold other black people. They were just trying to survive and didn’t anticipate the magnitude of their actions and the impact it would have on future generations of ALL descendants of Africa. As you said, it didn’t make it *right* but it makes it easier to understand their motives at the time. As a Black-American ADOS/DACS it can be easy to look at my African kin and ask “why didn’t you protect me? Why did you let us suffer?”.. I’m sure if the old tribes of Africa could see the future (what would happen to their land, their legacies and their descendants across the globe at the hands of Europe) that they would have chosen a different path. The various tribes would have squashed whatever beef they had to unite and would have never let the colonizer set foot on African soil.

@josm1206

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, that's just BS. You think the Dahomey were somehow forced to only take young people as slaves, slaughtered the elderly and take their heads, jaws and genitalia as trophies? 😂😂😂 These kingdoms COMPLAINED when Britain stopped it's slavery and FOUGHT the British to continue! They simply didn't see your ancestors as humans. They saw them as property. Accept that? Why did ten times more Africans die in Africa at the hands of African than at the hands of European slave traders, if the Africans cared?

@josm1206

Жыл бұрын

Type 'my great grandfather was a slave trader' into your search engine? You'll find two articles by modern Nigerians talking about their ancestors slave trading in the 1950's. Lagos even renamed it's independence square after a local slave trader. You can see her statue there today!

@dlc2479

Жыл бұрын

African kingdoms trading slaves with Europeans predates colonialism though. The African leaders who started trading initially were not motivated by survival lol they were motivated by the same thing as the Europeans - money/greed. By engaging with the Europeans, the African leaders opened the door to the colonialism that followed because the Europeans were able obtain control over the local economies by controlling the incomes of different tribe As a Caribbean descendant of slaves, I understand the motivation to romanticise the truth about African involvement but I wouldn't be so quick to assume that the African leaders would sacrifice the wealth they amassed just to save our ancestors. I went to school with several descendants of wealthy slaving African leaders and while they're not proud of the history, I can assure you, they will not sacrifice their privilege just for our ancestors lol. I really want to know why the tribes trusted foreigners who looked nothing like them & came from nowhere more than the enemies they already knew (the other kingdoms)?

@ChroniclesofaZoe

Жыл бұрын

@@dlc2479 let’s be real money/wealth and survival and ignorance all played a part. It’s very clear.

@bunneywolf

Жыл бұрын

They still would've done it. It's good that people are getting curious. But the same tribes that were selling their own people actively fought to continue selling g their people into slavery even after the wpipo in Europe stopped and outlawed slavery. It's natural to want to rationalize that your own people sent you to your doom. But it's not realistic. Accept the whole truth without trying to make excuses for it. Even when the atrocities were known, the selling didn't stop. It's not like this is difficult information to find. They knew. They didn't care. They sold illegitimate children and their mothers. They sold anyone who may have been a threat to power. They sold captives from other tribes who lost battles against them. Amd even after learning the Faye of those sold to the caucus, they didn't care. They kept going. So no, it wasn't survival and it wasn't desperation. They were helping the foreigners. It was intentional. Periodt

Just remember even today there are slave's in Africa it's not just a thing of the past! Forced labor in Sub-Saharan Africa is estimated at 660,000. This includes people involved in the illegal diamond mines of Sierra Leone and Liberia, which is also a direct result of the civil wars in these regions.

Listening to you while doing work on my desktop 😁 👨🏾‍💻

I'm glad you do a review on this movie, I haven't seen it yet because I been busy but I've been hearing very negative comments and reviews about it. I understand why the African American community are upset about the movie, but I need them to do research and understand what slavery was since the beginning of times before the European change the term. One of my debate partners who is a white Republicans male, who also had a glance of slavery in America had a debate with me about this subject. his excuses about slavery was "slavery been here since beginning of time", which is true, but slavery before the European was what we call today industry workers or prisoners depended on the type. There was 2 types of slavery before the European, there was voluntary, and involuntary slavery. Voluntary slavery was when you go borrow money and work for the lender for a number of years, or offer yourself to work for a number of years for free to married their daughter, or for something they person have. Involuntary slaves were prisoners of wars, someone who get caught stealing, or a criminal, just like voluntary slaves are only slave for a number of years, involuntary slaves also are only slaves for a number of years just like prison today. The African had no idea the involuntary prisoners aka slave was going to be a life sentence or it was going to be as brutal as the European made it, remember there was no way the Africans could've know what was going on outside their continent.

The way I see it... these mzungus came, colonized and threatened Africans in the area. They saw the wars between tribes and how they kept captives from the other tribe. They saw that and used it to their advantage. I'm sure Africans didn't beat their captives to fucking death for breathing to hard like the mzungus ended up doing. It was, you can die or become enslaved, or send your enemies. I don't think black people then thought those mzungus would do what they did. Regardless of if we ended up in countries by being captured by our own people or the mzungus, we can always get an African Ancestry test and see where we came from.

@ChroniclesofaZoe

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY. People really don’t thinkk.

@Bruhman1992

Жыл бұрын

They preformed human sacrifice and all manner of other brutal acts they were no much different than the races practicing slavery. Don't try to downplay it cause your bias.

@Sophine

Жыл бұрын

@@Bruhman1992 ok.... So they practiced human sacrifice. It was a time that was a thing to please the orishas and God. If you read what I said, you would see that I said black people had there own wars between each other. Simply put, black people business was just that black people business till mzungus decided to get involved for their own personal gain. No bias. Just facts. And that's why I don't trust mzungus mostly because they mainly get involved in things just to take advantage of black people or anyone who isn't white. Rarely are they there to help.

@bunneywolf

Жыл бұрын

Nope nope and nope. People sold from WITHIN their tribes as well as selling captives from losing tribes after battles. They also sold their own women and children. They sold eachother BEFORE conifers came around. Amd they SAd and unalived their own for centuries before that. What's with the denial amd excuses? Why can't their be any real accountability. No WM could've threatened ANY African nation at that time. Not a single one. They couldn't survive more than a week without catching some ole disease their frail wyte bodies and immune systems were too weak to fight off. And e en if they didn't die from the general environment they would've died of hupocolemoc shock well before being able to carry out any threat. Those Euro ppl were not built for the continent and they knew it. Stop being delusional. Im sickened by the amount of women here making excuses and rationalizing the betrayal of their own. Wake tf up. As soon as the opportunity presented itself, betrayal ensued. Probably would've done it for free. You don't know how to read evidence? Take off the blinders.

Chilleeeee I, as a Haitian woman. Proud to watch this movie, and then I was surprised that people hated this movie

@ChroniclesofaZoe

Жыл бұрын

Me tooo I was like 👀🤷🏽‍♀️ it was greaaaat

Before the movie I already knew the history of dahomey warriorsWell I did my research I educated myself okay before the Atlantic slave trade slavery in Africa has existed it always has existed before colonisation before the Europeans came to Africa the Europeans they did not arrive that easy in Africa because it was not easyTo cross the borders in Africa about these female warriors from Benin dahomey warriors they were not only trained to fight against the colonisers Including not only to fight with other tribes but they were also trained to traffic other tribes who were from a village because their king wanted to control other continents and they made an exchange with the colonisers with weapons and resources

Small correction : DAHOMEY was not colonized by BRITISH . It was colonized by FRENCH . Thanks for video Zoe . Im a big fan 🤎✊🏿💪🏿

@ChroniclesofaZoe

Жыл бұрын

When I looked into it it was colonized by both but in close time frame thanks lovvvve

Hunnnie I love the beats in the intro. Grown as I am I be jamming 😂. Already said you remind me of my niece. Simply beautiful ❤. Knowing you have a Mom. I’m auntie 😊. Keep up the great work. Loving it ❤. Glad ur feeling better 🥰

@ChroniclesofaZoe

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much love and I have a couple of moms you can be added to the list LMAO 😂❤

@ceecee5108

Жыл бұрын

Okay That will work 🥰

@ceecee5108

Жыл бұрын

@@ChroniclesofaZoe 😂🥰

great i love this episode wish yu good retablicement

Those of you complaining about the Dahomey Kingdom trading slaves, you have to get this right. Yes they did trade slaves (unfortunatly that was the big business for those days, sadly...) But do you know that the Dahomey people were firstly oppressed by the Fulanis and then the Oyo Kingdom! The Dahomey people were also captured and sold into slavery. For example, That is why alot of them were sent into Haiti (one of the places where they were sent to), hence the voodoo conection between the two countries. During the tribal wars, prisoners of wars that were captured from tribes that were fighting each other, were the ones taken into slavery. They are also cases of white slave traders kidnapping and stilling Africans (who were not prisoners of wars but were living normal lives) to be sold into slavery. So this is a very complex situation.

As a black Caribbean woman, I hated this movie on both race and gender fronts. I can acknowledge that the movie was well made but I cannot view it as purely for entertainment because this movie isn't just historically inaccurate, it's revisionist. The premise is that the Dahomey were reluctant slavers who attempted to stop slaving before abolition. All of the evidence points to the contrary and while I agree that European sources are biased, can't it be argued that the verbal histories from the descendants of Dahomey are just as biased when retold with today's moral compass? It's interesting that you don't mind the coloniser records detailing the ferocity of the Agoje. It's important to remember that Slave trading with Europeans predates colonialism. In fact, by CHOOSING to trade with Europeans in the first place, African leaders opened the door to the colonialism that followed because Europeans were able to embed themselves in the local economies and ultimately control them. The African slavers who agreed to the trade in the first place were motivated by the same thing that motivated European slavers - money/greed NOT survival. The movie completely omits this and instead pretends that the Dahomey tried to find other income sources. Imo, the decision of those African leaders to begin trading with Europeans was the origin point of the suffering both the continent and the diaspora experiences today. As for gender, as a black woman I'm really struggling to see the black woman empowerment in "unmarriageable" women and girls as young as 8 being forced into being shot, stabbed, SA'd, forced into celibacy and servitude for a patriarchal King who is happy to let the women fight for him. Although fierce, the Agoje sustained significant losses in most battles i.e. these women were sent out to be slaughtered. I also found the portrayal of the wives to be cartoonishly villainous & completely devoid of nuance once again highlighting the pi$$ poor feminism of the white screenwriters who've told this story through a weird girl boss lense lol... Speaking of the white screenwriters, I agree with you that we shouldn't allow Europeans to escape responsibility but that is exactly why I hate the movie! I cannot get past the fact that two white women write this script and have released this movie when the descendants of slaves STILL haven't received reparations yet & this movie will undoubtly exacerbate anti - reparations discussions.

@ChroniclesofaZoe

Жыл бұрын

Like I said different times. We can’t look at this from the same lense today as back then it makes zero sense. Race etc is not the same today as it was back in the day and I’m sure the Africans didn’t know what would’ve happened. I’m very sure having kids fight etc was a means for survival because like I said casualties and some of these kids were being dumped there. Again not the same times fr. Clearly in 2022 that’s inhumane. I think all of that is common sense. I will say if I knew white people wrote it I wouldn’t have cared to see it but tbh most shit in Hollywood based on “history” is inaccurate. Even their own stuff.

@Bruhman1992

Жыл бұрын

@@ChroniclesofaZoe you can use that logic for white people as well you can't judge the other races of the past with today's lenses by your logic.

@dlc2479

Жыл бұрын

@@Bruhman1992 Prime example of why this movie is irresponsible imo. But I think the yt screenwriters knew exactly what they were doing.

@visioday1814

Жыл бұрын

@@Bruhman1992 are you a white person cosplaying using a black picture?

@Bruhman1992

Жыл бұрын

@@visioday1814 no I'm black are you white?

I advise you to watch a documentary of Lupita Nyong’o when she went to Africa in Benin

@dlc2479

Жыл бұрын

She also declined the offer to be in the movie because of it's revisionist nature.

So glad they made this movie!! Real history needs to be told!!! Black has ALWAYS BEEN BEAUTIFUL!!! I am here for the black female power of it all. That is it!

@josm1206

Жыл бұрын

The African slave trade was anything but beautiful. The Dahomey typically only took the young as slaves, and slaughtered all others. The last slaves (illegally) transported to the US were captured and sold by the Dahomey in 1860. The survivors told how the Dahomey only took the young, slaughtered the old and forced the children to carry the heads of their parents back.

@namastewoke5197

Жыл бұрын

@@josm1206 Look, I never said anything about slave trade being beautiful. I said "black is beautiful " and that " I am here for the BLACK FEMALE POWER of it all. THAT IS IT". I ain't talking no kind of mess with anything about the slave trade. DO NOT take my words to places they are not with that mess. I am black and I am female. I love myself and I love my people and love my culture because I am black. Do not go there with my words. I know full well the history of the African slave trade. Hell, I traced my lineage back to a slave plantation in Mississippi that is still standing and being used as a personal residence to this day! Do not attempt to start stuff by implying things that I did not say. Thank you for the history lesson, but do not put words in my mouth that I DID NOT SAY!

@namastewoke5197

Жыл бұрын

@@josm1206 not to mention that my ancestors were infact split between Benin and Togo people of Africa (according to DNA testing), with very little else of outside Africa. So, of course, I research the land, people and history of where my ancestors come from. I am proud of my people, because they are strong and was able to survive the horrors they endured long enough to continue the lineage across the seas and through ALL KINDS of trials and tribulations. That is why I say "BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL". Has NOTHING to do with slave trading being beautiful. But the sheer determination to not only survive but thrive through hells I can not even fathom. Now, you have a good day and I am through with any explanations to my words that I originally posted.

@josm1206

Жыл бұрын

@@namastewoke5197 yes, we can see you're insecure and need to draw on identity for comfort. Maybe you should work on making yourself a better person rather than latching onto arbitrary identifies?

@namastewoke5197

Жыл бұрын

@@josm1206 lady....or person or whoever you maybe....bye with this. I ain't got the time. I don't care what you say after this. I ain't even going to reply. So say what you going to say, but know I am not caring.

I was mad when she died too. 😭 How is she gonna make me question my sexuality and then die? 😭😭😭😭😭

❤ Love the videos

Idk if you've done a video on the prophets & prophetesses of Africa that prophesied the colonization of Africa, but that would be an interesting subject. Also, have you heard of Prince Hall? He would be a very interesting subject as well.

I love you so much. Thank you for the review ❤❤❤

I love how you research before speaking. Thank you for this video❤

I'm so glad you're posting more on this channel regularly. I'm teaching myself krèyol so this also helps very much. Your content on all channels are the shit! #CapGang

@ChroniclesofaZoe

Жыл бұрын

Thanks love ❤

@ceecee5108

Жыл бұрын

💯 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@suzygirl1843

Жыл бұрын

@@ChroniclesofaZoe Yeah, I am also not buying that white people picked THIS story to celebrate female empowerment. They could've chosen Queen Nzinga. They knew what they were doing

great video!

7:21 idk about other ppl but in high school my history teachers talk about the role Africans played in the slave trade.

Look at the post credit scene you’ll see cha cha las son in Haiti idk why I’m so happy about this

The movie was good low key wanted to dna test afterwards.

I’m loving all the content 🤗💗

5:30 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

4:05 yes exactly n every complaint I had about the marketing of this movie I blamed them cz they straight lied. When I did my research I only found the bad n it turned me all the way off from the movie.

@ChroniclesofaZoe

Жыл бұрын

People should have already knew African’s part in the slave trade tho. This is nothing new. But it’s crazy because they tried to make it seem like it was ALLLLL Africa and less of their fault like uhm no.

I absolutely love you! 🥰🥰🥰

Some people thought it was nzinga

I love you so much 💞

3:38 I’m half Haitian and I didn’t this. I still don’t have a desire to see the movie but I’m all the way here for the new info. I see some ppl in the comments mad at you but personally I’m not cz idk you irl 😂 why tf would I be mad at what you spend your money on.

@sexymanicou3403

Жыл бұрын

Hello do anyone know what is the subtitle for her regular introduction phase of every video and its meaning (in english) if you please.

I get that the Dahomey sold slaves but at the same time Haiti and the rest of Latin America used their fighting strategy to gain their independence. They did a wrong and a right sooo its interesting.

Not that my opinion matters but I really like the movie because I looked at it as a MOVIE not a DOCUMENTARY. I don’t know I guess I choose not to let things make me upset that just aren’t worth it. Like you said if you KNOW your history a semi- fictional movie cannot rewrite it. Now if it was marketed as straight facts aka a documentary that’s different.

@yvelinesimonis6372

Жыл бұрын

Majority of the human race regardless of race and ethnicity has a ancestry history of human sacrifice. It occurred on every land where early humans lived. It may still be going on in some places under our noses.

Africans soooo smart😤🔥

Let me watch the movie & I'll come back.

But I love your videos ❤❤❤❤

As you said they saw their own people they did not have a choice because the king told him to so they were following the Kings orders but back in ancient times in the old days slavery wasn’t a race issue it was more a barbaric issue who gets to rule the territory and who gets to have their people as slaves but did you know that white People were sold as slaves in Africa since the Barbery slave trade so of course they are African people do not like the turn black because it does not identify them their skin colourYou had slaves in ancient Greece they came from different placesSo this is why it’s happening because kings and queens in Africa they sold their people and I researched it is because they were beef with other kingdoms so they wanted to have power so this is why in Africa you had people sold other people who are not from their tribes andAnd they captured people from the village and they sold them to the Europeans or they sold them from other continents so you should watch this documentary with Lupita Nyongo because she was supposed to be in this movie and she did not want to continue with the role because of the dark side of these women warriors dahomey warriors

There is a difference between transatlantic slavery and cattle slavery.

Ayeeee🎉

It was a black African woman that approached whites which the slave trade she was a edo and Yoruba mix.

I hope you get to meet & interview one of the children of these warrior women 🙌🏽 ❤️ 1978 was not that long ago! Jimmy Carter was President- and he's still alive!

@ChroniclesofaZoe

Жыл бұрын

Truuuue ❤

@josm1206

Жыл бұрын

The 'real' Nanisca was reported beheading slaves and drinking their blood in 1889. So recently but still too long ago to meet even the child of one of these slavers.

@josm1206

Жыл бұрын

However, if you type 'my great grandfather was a slave trader' into your search engine you'll find two articles by modern Nigerians talking about how their relatives were still slaving in the 1950's. Fun fact: Lagos, Nigeria, renamed it's independence square after a local slave trader. You can see her statue there today.

@ChroniclesofaZoe but we're not African but arawaks

The slaves that were traded for cannons and such were the original black Jews of Yah

this movie is so fake

I heard the movie was great, even from the people who didn't like it. I have to admit that I kind of cringed when I heard about a rape scene. I can't watch that type of shit.

@ChroniclesofaZoe

Жыл бұрын

tbh it wasn't too long or like detaliked like most Hollywood scenes but def sad asf.

Buh-bye.

@ChroniclesofaZoe

Жыл бұрын

Bye.

@alexharris2495

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣😂😂

such foolishness.....

Glorifying slave trading cannibals is ok if it's in the name of female empowerment, got it. Thanks for your lack of principles, racism and sexism.

@ChroniclesofaZoe

Жыл бұрын

You’re very welcome.

@johnnyvoltaire8424

Жыл бұрын

You are so wrong about Dessalines , he was from Toma ( Guinea) that tribe still in Guinea and secondly majority of Haitians are of Guinea and Congo Descent.I Don't know where you get the Idea that Haitians are from Dahomey.All our Ancestors were Born in Haiti not Africa , it has been more than 500 years since Africans Sold our great Ancestors.Dahomey was the base that held our great great ancestors before being sold to Europeans but it does not mean majority of Haitians are from there.

@JACK-OMARI

Ай бұрын

You said: "All our ancestors were born in Haiti not Africa" Then you said: "Africans sold our great ancestors" If your ancestors aren't from Africa how did Africans sell them?

Love the analysis. What do you think of the fba Ados xenophobic movement popping up online