any other big winners and losers? I definitely could think of at least one other big winner (Anji) also thank you to CTRL for sponsoring the video, use code LORDKNIGHT at drinkctrl.com/lordknight for 10% off :o (also pls subscribe)

@Mr.Voyager51

7 ай бұрын

Axl is a definite winner because not only did he get a buff with his bomber hitbox and j.d changes making it easier for extended combos, Tornado ALONE helping him SO MANY aspects of his game, (neutral, combos, safe blockstrings and even made his bad matchups more manageable) caused Axl to rise back as a top ten character. Maybe even top five. Heck even Remi beat Marvelo in a super close 1st to 10 on stream.

@Seth022MG

7 ай бұрын

Pot big winner

@blackmailed1072

7 ай бұрын

Testament feels like a fairly decent winner this patch. They got better oki from 6H, and they overall feel so good now with their flowchart. Some of the knockback off H.fireballs are a bit jank now, but overall, they ate pretty good this patch over the last couple of uneventful patches for them. Also, c.S. and Stain buff is genuinely pretty great.

@caer2780

7 ай бұрын

Testament got way better. The 6H change means you no longer have to choose between damage and oki, and you get oki from everything. Also gives lots more chances to set up jk crossup and double overhead/low mix with brc. Stain buff makes much of the corner pressure real. 5k iad mix is a thing now, you can no longer jump between stain pop and max charge level reaper, 5D is plus so you don't have to gamble your pressure on it, and it opens up strike throw after stain on way more ranges. Combined with all the rest, reduced knockback on 5k, 6h and H reaper means you get proper combos from stuff like fS stain hit or H reaper without spending resource. Just generally much better damage from many situations. These are definitely the biggest buffs since the first patch after their release, and it's been all buffs since then 😄

@HellecticMojo

7 ай бұрын

Faust is a subtle but great change with item store being visible and 6P being better.

losers: my characters winners: everyone else

@QuantemDeconstructor

7 ай бұрын

LK doesn't play HC or Asuka, L take he's played Baiken, Elphelt, and Milia this game

@Risky_Boots999

7 ай бұрын

@@QuantemDeconstructormaybe the comment is self referential

@QuantemDeconstructor

7 ай бұрын

@@Risky_Boots999 Perhaps

@shivernaut9884

7 ай бұрын

Be someone else then

Medium large correction on the gl changes, 268 now is +6 MINIMUM as opposed to +3 minimum, it can still be up to +12 if the opponent is further away

@gabereell

7 ай бұрын

this is why gg needs a frame data viewer in training mode

small additions about HC nerfs The guard crush being less plus stops him from doing SA GC>reload 1>SA without curse and also widens the gap between guard crush shots even if you are cursed. He can still do GC>reload 2>cS and frame trap with cS in corner pressure. GC>focus is at minimum -11 instead of -4. Something undocumented on the official patch notes is that the concentration loss from SA shots was also increased. Everything just costs more.

move over, mariah carey, there's a new god of christmas songs and it's LK

@himuragoXD

7 ай бұрын

I "heard" her live last week at MSG. Boy oh boy she's nuts lol she should stream.

@SorrowsPrison

6 ай бұрын

I'd take anyone over her tbh 😂

Btw LK, if you ever want to do comparisons to previous patches (from S2 forward) you can always go into combo trials and enter free practice because they retain previous patches to make sure the sent combo always works. (But you can't edit any of the preset conditions)

@Zman7981

7 ай бұрын

That's a really cool feature that I'm surprised exists

@Shinius

7 ай бұрын

Imagine if you could pick which patch you wanted to play.

Surprised anji wasnt on this list. He feels so much stronger this patch

@tabkg5802

7 ай бұрын

Anji dudes are MASHING on nagiha fr

I still have nightmares of season 1 where most of the time Goldlewis couldn't punish Nago's bloodrage pop.

Ok that ad read is a great christmas gift, thank you LK

LK, good job on staying cool while talking about Goldlewis. Well done 😅

@iAmCalypso33

7 ай бұрын

He deserves it. I hope every character in the game gets a chance to be top tier and bottom tier.

@LordKnightfgc

7 ай бұрын

it's youtube i had plenty of time to calm down

@Dr3am9553

7 ай бұрын

@@iAmCalypso33 you must have missed our God formally known as, lvl 3 Drone he didn't leave for long

Testament was a huge winner - They now get meaty c.s, a safejump, or guaranteed meaty stain off most 6h combo enders This is Testament's main ender for any combo with stain, meter, a counter hit, or a "good" starter (eg 6h, c.s). It's hard to understate just how huge it is to get offense, even if it's basic strike throw. So many situations that would have previously been a return to neutral now give Testament the ability to pressure their opponent further. - Stain pop is way more advantageous Stain pop is now so ridiculously advantageous that framekilling with teleport after popping stain up close is often a good idea to time frametraps better. stain pops lead to better combos in a lot of situations, especially tip f.s (and arbiter which previously rarely comboed into anything at all). Additionally on block a lot of fake pressure Testament had such as 5k stain pop iad j.h j.d j.236h (which lost to crouch blocking then walking forward) is now real and can't be escaped for free. 5d is also plus enough to frametrap after now, instead of being -5. - Less knockback on hit for 5k, 6h & 236h leads to more stable combos Notably, Testament can now get a sizeable combo meterlessly from tip range f.s using wild assault, which was not possible pre patch. Also highly scaled routes are less likely to drop super/wa after 5k 6h. - Launch on hit for c.s leads to better combos on regular hit

The song at the end was OD 😂. Good shit

still surprised they didn''t do anything to ram. also another system nerf she got was to positive bonus since it allowed her those extended blockstrings.

Sin catching basically no nerfs this patch is really fun for me, but also I'm scared he'll catch the hammer sooner or later. I will miss the deep run up DP but I can wait for my glue

I'd argue Pot's new move is enough to make him into winners. Some of the most unbearable MUs like jacko, brig, axl were so you can't do much if they decide to use long ranged air moves they better think twice as Heat Tackle wins against every one of them + CH. Also pot now has c.s oki of off 5p-5p(second is optional) - KHT

I just want to know who ghostwrote the bars at the end.

LMAO the song at the end

I'm not playing anymore, but I always love to see Goldlewis doing good!

@adknight1987

7 ай бұрын

Why aren’t you playing

Ram receiving no changes to me says that is the character power level they are aiming for. Obviously different toolsets can be easier or harder to balance but if everyone in the game felt as good to play and strong as ram I am happy.

hey LK, I'm not the most knowledgable about tourney level play but regarding ramlethal on the ladder, i notice her winrate is rather low given that everyone calls her top tier even in the top 100 rams. i do feel she is extremely strong because she can convert off nearly everything, but I am more looking for why there is such a huge difference between her win rate on ladder and her strengths in tourney? others who might have insight as well, i'd love to hear your thoughts. thanks. edit: love the christmas jingle for the ad. gave me a chuckle lol

@ThePoodle

7 ай бұрын

many ram players just hear that she is strong, and play her without a second thought, barely putting in any work to learn the pressure that makes her strong, or more difficult conversions

@actual_mel

7 ай бұрын

I think it goes in hand with what happens to popular moba characters, normally having way too much usage and having less than 50% winrate because of people just not knowing how to use the character

This ad song is beyond killer. LK got a career in ad singing.

Amazing outro🤣🤝🏾

At this point I'm confident in saying that the most annoying nerf for Sol in this patch is defo air BR nerf. It not only made his movement really scuffed but also limits combos HEAVILY. I'm fine with 6P and BB nerfs but really hope they will revert j.236K. Tbh not like this matters anyway since I can't fucking play the game (Strive servers consistently get worse with each patch)

YO I DIDNT KNOW LK COULD SING LIKE THAT FR. Bro is truly the best singer in the FGC

The outro got me feeling jolly af

Really like where HC is now. Started playing last patch and it's noticable

The protein ad was lit

Dont forget Goldlewis 5p was 6f on release and this is the second time 2k has received a buff to its startup, yes his 2k was slower than 8f at one point

@zxt5148

7 ай бұрын

I basically never used it. 2L and 2.S where useless for the longest time

Testament is imo one of the biggest winners this patch. - Stain buffs make every single attack in their kit plus on block - c.S buff (floating crumple now, like Sol and Gio) gives us new combo routes and gives us access to our best routes off of normal hit c.S - 6H buff is stupid. The HKD is so advantaged that we have to frame kill before safe jumps even at max range. We can run up and c.S after 6H from any distance now. The three combined give us - better combos to get easier access to high damage + HKD (instead of having to pick between the two) - more advantaged HKD after combos, which gives us enough time to charge Grave reaper - meaning we get meaty crow, so stain is available much more often - stain being buffed gives us crazy pressure that often includes being able to repeatedly apply stain.

Sol is winning big, they just made BR go forward slightly less so now CH 6H 6S BR doesn't work at max range (it doesn't even matter because if BR whiffs in this specific combo it just autotimes a meaty for you) and nothing else that actually matters changed so he's chilling with easy gauranteed 2 touches on the entire cast, high health, the best DP and abare in the game, and incredibly easy pressure and meter build.

LK whens the Christmas carol collab?

This might be the most cursed ad read I've ever witnessed

The weirdest thing is, Chaos is more fun to PLAY now unless your goal was to play online single player. He doesn't feel weak at all, just no longer busted.

Lowkey bedman got a big buff, he’s just middle of the pack now instead of bottom 2 so gets overlooked.

SPONSORED KNIGHT LETSGO

The tryant barrel nerfs Definitely sucks I can’t nuke his bad MUs Also positive bonus nerfs is pretty bad too

LK can I get your opinion on the changes to testament?

hc still feels the same lol, it's actually more fun now that he runs out of focus faster since you can manage it more

j.D speed buff for bed really made him top tier this patch 😊

Why did they hit Ky and not touch Ram though?

@mr.einwood2384

7 ай бұрын

Ky: balanced Ram: still broken after crippling her legs ArcSystem: yeah, nerf Ky it is

The big winner is my heart after hearing that song at 1.5 speed, thx :)

Anji is winning big, they just made fuujin so much better because now you just hope to hell you instant block that nagiha because otherwise its unpunishable, and if they space it correctly ITS STILL SAFE FROM ALMOST EVERYTHING. The anji player needs to take uneccessary risks or mess up execution for you to actually win post fuujin RPS. They fixed his issue of his neutral skip/blockstring ender being a very risky RPS, its super safe now. Basically, learn to react to RIN or die from anjis big combos because you are NOT punishing anji for daring to try and actually use the move his character is built around like you used to be able to.

Next patch bedman?’s high tier

I'm just now starting to learn zato, is there any chance he gets buffed back to where he was before? eddie management seems really hard and I never use him in neutral

@dirges1239

7 ай бұрын

Back to were he was? No chance, arcsys seems to be sticking to their guns w it, we can hope for some meaningful buffs but I highly doubt he'll ever be top 10 again tbh

You tapping into gbvsr for 2b?

I think they still need to explore wild assault in order for strive to develop well.

Axl just getting ignored massively were actually high tier now if not top tier with whistling wind and bomber and j.d changes

I need to downplay Anji somehow so all I'm gonna say is Goldlewis now being able to punish him consistently with 2k (along with his 5p) feels kinda bad. Also Kara Nagiha is also really disadvantageous for him, it's so fun to use that I keep spamming it and getting CH in neutral. Also Tiger_Pop made a really good breakdown on HC changes and what they mean for him, especially in combination with each other. It's a really good read.

@yokaitamer9436

7 ай бұрын

Anji has been pretty okay for awhile but it's anji so playing him is suffering. The nagiha change is helpful but a little weird to give him so much forward momentum considering it's -7 so in the corner is pretty easy to get punish now, but my biggest issue is the 6h change. I'm not a fan (no pun intended) of how they made it unable to special cancel. Iirc he's the only character now that has a command normal that can be special canceled.

@ThePoodle

7 ай бұрын

@@yokaitamer9436 most top anjis are big fans(pun intended) of the 6h changes because they make it so he can combo it off of 2p. also sol's 6H cannot be special canceled

Whats the frame data mod youre using? Ive been ttying to find one for ages and cant seem to get them to work

Jacko got another weird nerf eliminating quite a bit of tech. Using shield is just braindead straight forward now. As jacko, its terrible. You cannot instant jump+shield or shield ultimatum. Tbf, I know why they nerfed the shield, but that ultimatum was there since the beginning. And only now they nerf it. But they essentially also removed a whole lot of other creative uses for the shield and made it harder to use. Its just a boring ability now that still requires 2 steps to get to AND it still isnt frame 1. Goes to show that they dont know how to nerf or change Jacko. I liked the shield best when; Shield big, shield does damage, shield guard crushes instead of bops them up for a combo. I rather have the more creative use shield instead of a ya or nah shield we have now. The shield effects are still misleading anyway, but as the jacko player, it just feels more sluggish. If anything, they need to buff Bomb and Recall in a way to make players realize the power of those two commands. Bomb can be game winning good and its why it has so many drawbacks, but it has too many drawbacks. Recall actually works for zoning, I use it a lot when full screen, but the issue is, it still requires 2-3 minions being alive to make it somewhat worth. I rather Recall straight up always give a full bar, despite no gray bar to refill the minion meter. You are essentially turning a 2 step character into a 3 step character if using it for zoning. At least make Recall worth the minion cost calculations so that it works better for zoning purposes. So, instead of 3 minions give 0.5 without grey bar. It always gives 1 bar for each minion alive. That way, a jacko can easily calculate their meter usage. Especially with the extra caviats of how long a minion is alive for anyway.

@KingAfrica4

7 ай бұрын

Nah

The real winner is us listening to LK sing at the end

I wanna nominate zato for biggest loser simply because they did not backpedal on the S3 nerfs even a little bit. I honestly expected them to fix BTL burst baits.

Got jumpscared by a christmas carol parody at the end.

Season 2 felt perfect, every character felt really good and not too far ahead of the rest. I cant really say anything about season 3 because I haven't even updated to it yet. Mostly because I had just started to get really comfortable with Zato and it just feels bad from whag I've seen now.

@Caulin_

7 ай бұрын

Season 2 had HC on top 100% you have BAD opinions :(

@Caulin_

7 ай бұрын

but yeah I feel bad for Zato mains

@danielwitt1793

7 ай бұрын

Never feel bad for zato players, its what they deserve for always whining about zato being bad. Well, now he is, shoulda shut up 2 years ago lmao.

@V2ULTRAKill

7 ай бұрын

​​no clue what season 2 you were playing But it wasnt strive season 2, that shit had the grossest top tiers and weakest low tiers

Surprised nago didn’t get brought up, the DP nerf weakened his roundstart significantly and the bite buff now lasts a whole second less. Wild assault buff does help even out things but i think nerfing bite memes and nerfing his roundstart are pretty big nerfs to his gameplan

Anji is like mid-high tier now and everyone hates him. But everyone knew that'd happen when he got good enough.

Johnny is also a looser in the patch, he is now a zoner with the biggest quotation marks, everything was toned down and he wasnt even close to top tier oh and also because potemkin got heat tackle

Came for the info stayed for your singing

Season 3 was my fav patch for shaking up the meta and making the game feel brand new. Season 3.5 patch is my favorite patch for making the game balanced. It kinda reminds me of S3 DBFZ disrupting the whole meta by introducing variable assists, then gradually tweaking it as the season went on to equalize the cast.

I'm not the biggest fan of anytime where Goldlewis is strong, but overall, seems like a good patch right now.

The voice of an angel! X3

Ram was a monster in Xrd Rev 2. Being able to deploy, control, and recall, each sword independently was amazing. I play her in that game sometimes just to have fun. People should be thankful that she doesn't have those abilities this time...

Jumped scared by LK singing lmao 🤣

Yes LK Chris Rock we all wanna get HUGE

Ram is Daisuke-Sama's number one girl, she never gets touched

I'm kinda feeling like I-No is big loser, not just because she got a minor nerf but mainly because I feel like Elphelt kinda does a lot of what she does (I.e. tries to rush you down and mix you up but can also mess with you at range with some projectile shenanigans) but much easier to execute on and without the hoverdash linearity issues. Thoughts?

@KingAfrica4

7 ай бұрын

Yeah but Ino is a better character

@AdamJorgensen

7 ай бұрын

@@KingAfrica4 For sure, I-No is great, it just feels like the simplification of characters in Strive has maybe gone a bit far when two characters that were previously very distinct are now a lot less distinct and can even be seen as being extremely similar.

@KingAfrica4

7 ай бұрын

@@AdamJorgensen I feel like that has nothing to do with simplification but more due to Elphelt's extreme change to playstyle. You can't really say many characters play similarly

@AdamJorgensen

7 ай бұрын

@@KingAfrica4 That's a fair point, I hadn't thought of it that way.

@V2ULTRAKill

7 ай бұрын

​@@AdamJorgenseni mean ino being the better version of the character makes ner very much not the loser

thanks :>

Maybe now people will stop acting like happy chaos players are cultists.

It’s not a big deal. We can handle it.

Bro goldlewis is my main character but bro did not need that 268 buff it was already a fucking warcrime of a move

@gdstoomy4238

7 ай бұрын

Agreed.

Zato Mains continue to suffer... I left guilty gear for a while only to come back to my bro disfigured like Griffith when they rescued him from the dungeon 🗿 Until they fix this afront to my boy I will not be returning 🗿 Disgusting🗿 I have never seen a Nerf in all of human history as bad and they keep kicking him while he's down 🗿 Zato is now bottom tier and it's painful to witness 😭😔✊

@cameronrramos

7 ай бұрын

Zato is fine, the downplaying is insane on that character. If he gets going he wins, just straight up. That was the case in previous patches and is still the case this patch.

@dontaskmeaboutmyprofilepic5898

7 ай бұрын

​@@cameronrramosnah zatos ass hes half a charecters like 90% of the round

Omg the song 😂

axl big winner

@TheVeryGenericUsername

7 ай бұрын

I love mashing tornado in neutral it's so good

WOOOOO RAM LETS GOOOO

singing guide when

I cant believe they specifically mentioned that Ram didn't need changes. Ram players have been hella babied for the entirety of the game. This character is so annoying :(

Nago needs to start losing he’s not losing enough take away the hit box on his sword and extend his hurt box out to the entire screen. I’m tired of fighting these Nago players and seeing them get to play the game. It’s about time something changed

@thatmonkemanzelinki2185

7 ай бұрын

As a F9 nago main, I agree

ANJI ANJI ANJI ANJI ANJI ANJI

Not done with the video but I'm eager for LK to pretend millia was massively improved but he strangely won't pick her back up (also known as him knowing she's still bottom 3)

@youare5907

7 ай бұрын

Jk she isnt even mentioned as one of the biggest losers for being kept in such a terrible state LOL

@KingAfrica4

7 ай бұрын

@@youare5907 are you slow?

@youare5907

7 ай бұрын

@KingAfrica4 what did you gain from wiring such a meaningless comment?

@KingAfrica4

7 ай бұрын

@@youare5907 someone had to acknowledge the dumb thing you said. Millia is a perfectly fine character

@youare5907

7 ай бұрын

@KingAfrica4 of course, she's destroying so many tournaments rn. She's perfectly fine why isn't LK playing her anymore?

Nago big win or what

@belaidi_hichem

7 ай бұрын

his retarded roundstart got nerfed so he can't win it automatically using shizuriyuki, and his command grab got reworked

@kennyblasberg3226

7 ай бұрын

How does he keep getting away with it. Seriously wtf

@dragonic22

7 ай бұрын

Guys, he got 2 significant nerfs

@hakumenx1

7 ай бұрын

​@@dragonic22 they still lose so any nerf he gets doesnt matter

@kennyblasberg3226

7 ай бұрын

@@dragonic22 if y’all Nago players thought those 2 changes were “significant nerfs” that says a lot about how many patch notes your character has passed through only getting a slap on the wrist(if anything at all)

I hate that your mustache and beard only connect on one side

Ky's fS nerfs are quite drastic and unnecessary, but it looks like nobody cares but me😢

@dragonic22

7 ай бұрын

fS beating backdash was a little stupid

@Donobro

7 ай бұрын

A lot stupid​@@dragonic22

@colinstone5479

7 ай бұрын

Ky f.s. was literally the best poke in the game

I don't feel bad about zato players they have been complaining since day one and honestly his nerfs aren't that bad

They killed HC for me because i played him as a zoner. HC wasn't a great zoner for a while but now there aren't any good zoners in the game. 😕

@CHEYMIX

7 ай бұрын

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@PinePizza

7 ай бұрын

​@@CHEYMIXlol

@sancticial

7 ай бұрын

Great b8 m8

@merry1694

7 ай бұрын

As a HC main, this nerf was needed. His guard crush loops were crazy. This nerf actually forces HC zoners to play the game. Personally, the nerf didn't affect me too much as I prefer rushdown mix ups and zoning only to get closer.

@polterkitty3639

7 ай бұрын

Asuka Axl and Jack-o are all great zoners though.