In the books Siuan spent her entire life and sacrificed everything she had to allow Rand to learn to channel and fully become the Dragon Reborn, and here in just one scene, everything is turned upside down, to say I'm perplexed is an understatement.

I love this scene! She’s so shady! “We would’ve been so much better off if you were a girl! “ 😂😂😂😂

@nckncknck

5 ай бұрын

It’s because they cant teach boys, who can channel, channel. That is why Morraine wants Logain to teach Rand.

Sounds like they had the same idea as the Seanchan

I love this show, and because of that, I'm now reading the books. Every adaptation has fans angry and complaining that the adaptation isn't like the source material and I think if the adaptation of whatever it is, is growing the fan base of that particular show or book, then that's a win. I'm not that far into the books yet but so far I really like that also. I like them both. YOU CAN LIKE BOTH!

@adelucas4824

6 күн бұрын

It's not that it's a bad series, it's the fact they changed so much without needing to. The books are long and convoluted, so there is a lot they can cut out without losing the story. Keep the main beats and lose the padding. One of the big problems with the books is that a lot of the multi-book arcs don't really add to the story and in a TV adaptation could be dealt with in one episode. I don't even mind them combining minor character arcs into one person. The problem is that some of the most important plot points in later books have been undermined by the changes they have made to the story.

"6 months, and she taught you nothing!" Loved Siuan's fish references; 2 in 2.5 minutes has got to be a movie record 😂

This scene is good at showing the difference between power and skill. Rand is many magnitudes stronger than Siuan, but she handles him like a child because she's been channeling for many years.

@masterkeep

12 күн бұрын

Except the books say that a single wielder cannot ever shield a single other wielder, especially not someone as strong as the dragon reborn. They are completely ignoring the rules set in the book.

@chocopuddingcup83

12 күн бұрын

@@masterkeep Where does it say that? Because there's plenty of times when a single person has shielded another.

@masterkeep

12 күн бұрын

@@chocopuddingcup83 Only if they were caught unaware and not already connected to the source. The scene showed Rand already holding the source, so that was impossible. Even then it was required to have at least three to hold a shield. That is canon from the books.

@chocopuddingcup83

12 күн бұрын

@@masterkeep Again, this is about skill vs power. Even in the books, somebody who is much stronger than another channeler can shield them even if they're holding the power (and in the show, when Ishamael shields Moiraine, as he is MUCH stronger than her). Rand, in this instance, has almost no capability, let alone the comprehension, of what he can and cannot do, and his grasp on the power is weak. Siuan has decades of experience in this, and she knows exactly what it takes to shield somebody who is holding the power.

@masterkeep

12 күн бұрын

@chocopuddingcup83 Incorrect. In the books, it is almost always power over strength if the one is holding the one power. So much so that anytime it isn't by power, it appears to have been a mistake. Rand had grabbed hold of the power, and he was immensely more powerful than her. Should not have been possible, period.

Rand al’Shield

This is not how I envisioned how Siuan would look like.

At first I thought she was just a very bad actress but the more I heard of the script the more I realised it wasn't her fault. Whoever wrote it should be banged up for a decade.

@StewNWT

4 ай бұрын

god you sound whiny. WHat's wrong with the scene? No wait don't answer that, cauz I don't wanna hear any more whining

@huolalupin6008

4 ай бұрын

@@StewNWT Shut up and have another doughnut.

@But...WhyTho

3 ай бұрын

@@StewNWT A single lady can shield the most powerful male channeler with a flick of her hand. It literally took two just to hold Logain with extreme effort on their parts even within the context of the show. Rand, the Dragon Reborn, its significantly more powerful than Logain. But this show just goes scene-by-scene with no regards to anything else that's been established because "cool scene" is apparently better than a good story. Rand was literally already channeling and she said "hehe, no actually" which... no. Cutting someone off while they're already touching the source is extremely hard, basically impossible to do by oneself, and sure as hell wouldn't be easy against the literal dragon. Egwene can heal someone from being Burnt Out because shes sad because whamen, Nieneve can heal an entire room without any training because whamen... but Rand, The Dragon Reborn, can't break a shield because that wouldn't be cool and girl boss and then gets shielded again later on by NPC ocean channelers at least two miles away on boats with no line of sight on him because the Battle In the Sky would be stupid and not girl boss I guess. It sucks. The show sucks even if we completely ignored the books.

@StewNWT

3 ай бұрын

@@But...WhyTho Because Rand has had no experience or training - unlike Logain who had been practicing and building his army for months or even years - they make this clear. And The Amyrlin seat is no mere one woman. You're jus tlooking for reasons to be whiny

@veggiesnake4430

Ай бұрын

Oh, Sophie Okonedo is a _force_ when you give her a good script. Her performance in Ratched was incredible.

This show got so many things wrong about the One Power and channeling.

@lamario295

5 ай бұрын

Like what?

@JordenLeonard

4 ай бұрын

Because the source material current survive current era wokeism.

@alcazarheironkaisserj.6544

4 ай бұрын

@@JordenLeonard Well, making it woke make sense since it's in the future, a post-apocalyptic world where some women freeely hold powers

@RecklessFables

4 ай бұрын

The male and female are like like the notions of ying and yang. They supplement each other and work together. This show erased a large portion of the lore because they don't like heteronormative notions. Sure, they kept that men go mad (toxic masculinity) but they keep hinting that the female side could just do everything without them, which even the Reds never really said. @@lamario295

@Osyrous

4 ай бұрын

​@lamario295 the pool of saidin is missing st the eye of the world, rand cutting the shield off moraine, moraines op ship killing fire dragon thing, the way gates not needing the leaf shaped like the leaf from the tree of life, and THOM. The list does go on but who really cares enough.

Here is what I don’t get. In s1 3 powerful Aes Sedai could barely shield the fake dragon and yet she alone can do that to the real deal’

@Mcherri

29 күн бұрын

I mean in defence rand barely knows how to channel a male has to train him not a female and only logain can do that.

@christopherdavis6918

23 күн бұрын

She literally said as much in this very scene. 🥴

@The_Memorial

23 күн бұрын

@@christopherdavis6918 in the books it took at least 6 Aes sedan to shield him and that was even before he trained in the one power. They made him hella weak

@christopherdavis6918

23 күн бұрын

@@The_Memorial you think the show can afford putting six actors on one person every scene he’s being shielded? Serious question.

I was so happy when lanfear destroyed him

I have been reading these books for more than 20 years and this show is just absolute garbage. I don't care if they have to change something here and there, but this isn't even the books anymore. My dad enjoyed the show because he never read the books. So I told him I would watch it with the mindset that I never had and even then I couldn't get it out of my head how bad all of this was. Where was Rand in the skies above Tarwin's Gap? Where was the pool of Sidin? The Green Man? Elane? Thom only showing up in White Bridge? WTF is all of these changes? Killing Loyal? (couldn't move on to season 2 so if he isn't really dead, good, but even still) and him being a pacifist? He was an amazing warrior! The ruined characters, they jumped the gun on things to add more sex and nudity. I could keep going on, but all of this was a big waste of my time to even humor my dad...

weak show with weak directors create weak shows and weak people . all of Hollywood is dead