People always say we need more Jed Bartlets or Josh Lymans in politics- I wish that every administration could have a Leo McGarry.

@emu314159

Жыл бұрын

I wish so too. Sadly, that is an alternate universe of Aaron Sorkin's invention.

@sojohnny....8824

Жыл бұрын

I mean to be honest Bartlett was too liberal for my liking

@GameFawx

Жыл бұрын

Bartlet described Leo perfectly in the State of the Union episode: A best friend, who is smarter than you, and not afraid to get in your face and tell you that you're wrong. That's your Chief of Staff. And I agree, every administration, regardless of party should have someone like Leo as Chief of Staff

@lizziebkennedy7505

Жыл бұрын

The First Warmonger. You have enough.

@lizziebkennedy7505

Жыл бұрын

@@sojohnny....8824 LOL!!! Make America Flake Again. If most of your citizens can barely participate in your economy, you’re extreme laissez faire isn’t working.

"Because a man stands up" Leo channeling Ike so fucking hard here

2:37 - I love Leo's excitement there about letting the staff off the leash, like he's saying he has a superpower he's never used before.

Always loved the look in Leo's face, after he agrees that it isn't Leo who drives the president to safe ground, and he has this look of, "It's time to pick this fight. Right now."

John Spencer was brilliant. You look at him at 3:29 and you can tell - this character isn’t just encouraging the president to be active, he loves the man. I miss him.

@lizziebkennedy7505

Жыл бұрын

That’s very true, but Johnny was much more liberal than Leo.

@gypzs9

Жыл бұрын

How we miss these wonderful people/characters. How they inspire, motivate. Thrilling!

@LeicaR10

6 ай бұрын

He was absolutely brilliant.

I always forget that Charlie's in the room for this. It makes the scene that much cooler.👍

@aussiejed1

Жыл бұрын

Just quietly hovering in the background, watching his parents fight.

@jasonkoch3182

Жыл бұрын

Imagine being Dule Hill and getting to watch this masterclass in acting. Two brilliant actors taking brilliant writing and knocking it out if the park, and Dule has a front row seat.

@RichardA.-yi5sz

2 ай бұрын

You'll remember that Josh told Charlie when he got the job that there'd be times he'd have to make himself invisible in plain sight. Charlie's smart enough to know that this is one of those times.

Fucking John Spencer man. Incredible

You need a friend who will stand toe to toe with you and tell you what you might not want to hear. That's Leo.

A masterpiece of the story of tv. Never tired to watch it.

@Karthos1000

4 жыл бұрын

Especially the last three years, 136 days, 54 minutes and 12 seconds as of this post.

@AndreAFirenze

4 жыл бұрын

John Landon sorry but i don’t understand

@Karthos1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@AndreAFirenze How long Trump has been President.

@AndreAFirenze

4 жыл бұрын

John Landon oh my gosh! I got it. Sorry 😊

@lizziebkennedy7505

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

Love this scene. Turning point in the whole show.

This episode is almost like a second pilot for the series.

3:16 ‘I don’t want to feel like this anymore.’ Powerful

One of the best scenes in tv history imo.

IMO, Bar None, this is the best show to ever be on television!

one of the best scenes ever

@Trig242

3 жыл бұрын

"what the hell did you say?" 😂

Every time I see a John Spencer clip my heart sinks a little :(

@richard1472

Жыл бұрын

"Everyone owes a death. There are no exceptions.". The Green Mile Unfortunately, many people, far too many, pay that debt far too soon. Godspeed, John Spencer, wherever you are.

@gypzs9

Жыл бұрын

We miss him. Dear John Spencer, this role was his destiny.

Great scene. Thanks for posting it. ☮

Cut it off, too soon! The next scene was the heart melter.

@jbpicado

4 жыл бұрын

kirk, take a look at the description of this lot: the cut was designed to illustrate "conflict and character through dialogue" in a seminar oon sorkin's style of TV dramaturgy. the following scene you request is out of that jurisdiction, so to speak.

@spacedad1853

4 жыл бұрын

@@jbpicado Hear you, I suppose. The summation of it and what follows is a dramatic scene. Makes my heart warm. But it needs to include the team saying, I serve...

@teejayventura6758

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking! Bartlet with his hands in his pockets.

@visakanv

Жыл бұрын

next scene here kzread.info/dash/bejne/d45tj5WHqLfggZs.html

History waits for no man.

@mycoffeemyday

5 жыл бұрын

To infinity (8) & healthier cultural understandings and more thoughtful resolutions for the perpetual futures of all lives.

Brilliant

I always crack up wondering what Charlie in the background is thinking... Like "oh shit... It's about to pop off."

This is what the world should be

The West Wing was way ahead of it's time. You only now see a lot of shows like Man in the High Castle and For All Mankind playing catch up, but this show was years ahead of them with the alternate universe where instead of the Axis Powers winning WW2 or the USSR beating us to the moon it's one where democrats are intelligent, competent, and principled 😄😁😆😅🤣😂

@uncahay

Жыл бұрын

In our reality though, they're just Republicans-Lite. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Chills. We could use this now.

@partyguy101ify

3 жыл бұрын

Good news, we do. Biden has issued more executive orders in his first two weeks as President than any other in recent history.

@alexreid4131

3 жыл бұрын

@@partyguy101ify hmmm weird right? The orange oompaloompa wasn’t smart enough to get shit done through Congress so he did a shit ton of executive orders that Biden now said, “Oh sorry fuck tard bye bye.”

@alexreid4131

3 жыл бұрын

@@partyguy101ify A siting pesident incited a mob to storm the Capitol and kill elected officials. You are OK with that? Seriously...are you ok with that? If not then by all means give me something else to latch on to.

@seanm4095

2 жыл бұрын

Ohh God Yes

Damn this show was lightening in a bottle...

tegy.

What about when Bartlett wanted strong military action in response to the aircraft being shot down and Leo talked him into proportionate response? Why didn't he serve at the pleasure of the president then?

@stars9084

5 жыл бұрын

Because at that point the President was acting out of grief and anger and going too far because of it

@Particus

4 жыл бұрын

he was also going to bomb a airport killing THOUSANDS of innocent people who had nothing to do with the aircraft being shot down. Its why terrorist groups are so dangerous.. they dont belong to any country.. they just hide and strike without warning.. its why allies are important... and he would have lost a lot of allies if he had bombed that airport

@areeklamthong

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe because Bartlett’s response then was stupid?

@TanmaiKhanna

3 жыл бұрын

Also if the accusation is that Leo drives Bartlet to political safeground, driving him away from a strong military action is hardly going towards political safeground, since the American people would love to see a disproportionate response. It was more about Leo and the joint chiefs telling Bartlet to act as a superpower acts, and not out of emotion, beginning a vicious cycle which none of them could anticipate.

@MrPeterpiper1969

2 жыл бұрын

He did serve at the pleasure of the president Daniel. One of the main jobs of the Chief of Staff is to guide the President's decision making especially when emotions are running high as they are here. Leo basically ensured that President Bartlett wasn't going to commit what would frankly be an atrocity against innocent people because of anger and grief. He argued for a properly balanced response to the actual event and (I'm sure you know this already) so did Admiral Fitzwallace in the situation room. Had Jed given the order to bomb the airport and other sites he would have regretted it forever and Leo knows that too. By keeping the President from that course of action he served far more effectively than a 'yes man' could ever do. Sometimes it's a friend's job to tell you you're wrong and Leo does that here to perfection.

Leo forgot all, this when Bartlet refused to bomb Gaza. But then it wasn’t Sorkin writing, so the vision wasn’t this one.

Does it bug anyone this is some "special revelation"? They seemingly just discovered the president needs to try make change wielding the highest office on Earth; to be authentic instead of going along just to get reelected. To me, making change is the only reason to get elected. If people are too upset with that change, wont get reelected; So be it.

@defiante1

4 жыл бұрын

Easier said than done. Find yourself in a seat of incredible power or authority, you stand up, everyone stands and waits for you to speak. Its easy to care more about retaining that than using it with fear of losing it, or worse, go down in history as someone who used it badly. Plus its a good weakness for them to show in Bartlet. In a lot of ways he is this perfect president dude, hyper intellectual, caring, empathic, understanding, wise. But he was afraid of being remembered by history for blunding in arrogantly and it made him timid.

@MrPeterpiper1969

2 жыл бұрын

Bartlett actually intended to only serve one term originally (it's revealed later he did a deal with Hoynes and promised Abby this would be the case due to his MS) so it's not such a surprise that he was tentative in his first year as President. Leo challenged him to do better and that is in my opinion what began the process of making him change his mind. In Two Cathedrals we see a lot of really good scenes between Jed and Mrs Landingham (albeith a 'ghost' of the lovely lady) and it's from her he draws the strength to actually say "Yes I'm gonna run .... and I'm gonna win". Forgive me if you knew this already but it does explain why Bartlett was trying not to rock the boat too much since that might have made Hoynes election campaign harder. Of course it all changes in Season 4 but at this point, during this conversation Bartlett was still intending to be a one term president. The one thing I don't understand is how Leo McGarry would not know that. I don't think it's at all consistent with the relationship between Jed and Leo as it was written and I find it impossible to believe Jed would have made any such deal or decision without telling Leo about it.

@EsquilaxM

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrPeterpiper1969 that's an interesting interpretation. I didn't think he'd hamstring himself to help hoynes get elected. Help himself, sure, but help someone he differs so much from, politically...idk. I always thought it was strange that he told hoynes he wants him to stay as VP in case he dies...there was no indication they shared political views enough for that. Though it could've been fed by him knowing it wouldn't be possible to get a better VP, as we see later in the series where the all the actually good candidates are blocked.

@MrPeterpiper1969

2 жыл бұрын

@@EsquilaxM I suspect you're right about the 'better' candidate being certain to be blocked. During In The Shadow of Two Gunmen there are flashbacks (as I'm sure you know) to Bartlett's primary campaign. It starts with Hoynes being the odds on favourite to win the nomination and I think Bartlett approached him to be VP when it became clear it was him not Hoynes who would win. The reason (imo) is that Hoynes was extremely well known nationally and was also a useful way to balance the ticket as they say. Add in that Hoynes and Bartlett are actually not all that far apart politically it's just Bartlett at his best was much more forthright about his positions on major issues. I think Hoynes largely agreed with Bartlett but didn't have the 'gravitas' for want of a better word to express himself quite as openly or forcefully.

@EsquilaxM

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrPeterpiper1969 hoynes carried the Southern vote which I took to mean because he was notably conservative, but I guess it could just be because he's Texan. Bartlett was the most liberal President of a generation so it also made sense to me that hoynes was needed as a conservative balance but I guess if he brought the south either way then that's not needed

As inspiring as this scene was, it doesn't make much sense. Both the show and the real-world have established that the first 100 days in office are the most productive of the whole term. If team Bartlet could only score a single victory in the first year? Then they shouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell at winning re-election. Nor should they either.

@stefsmurf

Жыл бұрын

@DrownedInExile It's true, that the 1st 100 days are considered the most productive of the whole term, but that phrase loses something in reality. Productive doesn't mean only or even majority. The last 3 presidents we had (Trump, Obama, Bush (Biden still has at least 2 more years before including him)), their biggest legislative bill/law was after the 1st 100 days. Even Santos when he was with Vinnck and Barlett, was stating that any agenda the incoming president had would have to take a backseat to the upcoming skirmish. Political capitol gained during the campaign would be spent on that, and they would have to raise up more to get whatever else they wanted accomplished done. Not that it's the ONLY thing they would end up doing. Productivity in that phrase means the GOAL(s) of the upcoming term is defined, pieces are identified, and communicated to the country, either at large or just to the legislative branch. Barlett didn't really have one, and they've been quagmired for the 1st year because of it. The series start at the beginning of the 2nd year of term, and that's when things start picking up for them. Mandy's document basically stated, IF the president continues on this path, he might not even get the party's nomination, that's how unimpressive they've been.

@jasonkoch3182

Жыл бұрын

I think you're completely misunderstanding the concept of the first 100 days. The first 100 days rarely has any effect on a president's re-election, either. Voters barely pay attention to what happens after the inauguration, and the first 100 days take a president into May/June of their first year. The election isn't for another 3+ years at that point, which is more than enough time for a president to recover after a weak first 100 days or to fade after a strong first 100 days. The idea of the first 100 days is that they are typically the most productive, but far from the only productive days of a presidency.