Palette errors are almost like a retro art form.

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Haha yeah, much more charming than modern era glitches

@spamtongspamton1400

Жыл бұрын

And this is where the fnf creepypasta about knuckles chaotix came from.....huh

@goldenfoxy1682

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector tell Tatra 7:44 game, this

@Foxyexe143

Жыл бұрын

​@@spamtongspamton1400 bruh

@Foxyexe143

Жыл бұрын

​@@goldenfoxy1682 another foxy, one shall go the other shall be victorious

It's pretty funny how out of three characters that feel like Wechnia homages, the two that feel the most obvious are complete coincidences and the one that feels the most like a stretch was 100% intentional

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Haha yeah. I feel like I have seen confirmation about Finetivus somewhere though so you never know..!

The fact that they made Surge, Kit, and Starline from the glitched characters is quite creative.

@nikki5380

Жыл бұрын

Was kit inspired by a color pallet glitch?

@ultradarkbeastmode3983

Жыл бұрын

@@nikki5380 either a blue tails or a blue knuckles.

@EnterSeizmix

Жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure it’s blue knuckles (ingame called tails)

@ashmander3465

Жыл бұрын

Did they make a red sonic yet. And scourge could be the first technical ashura too

@Gragayagataga

6 ай бұрын

​@@EnterSeizmixbluckles yeah.

Starline being a platypus is a fun little Echidna nod too - platypus and echidna are both monotremes, that is mammals who lay eggs. Starline is a distant cousin of echidna

@AutumnLeaf06

3 ай бұрын

"Egg laying mammals of action"

Tangle the Lemur and Whisper the Wolf from the IDW comics absolutely deserve their own videos!

@Opheebop-Productions

Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@regretgames5580

Жыл бұрын

Whisper is my 2nd favorite sonic character

@Delfite

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

Starline's stitched-up, Frankenstein's monster-esque look in the concept art may also be a nod to the first platypus specimens sent to Britain being regarded by scientists of the time as a hoax and not actually a real animal. They assumed that someone had glued the body parts of various animals together, much like Frankenstein's monster. The bolts poking out of his body also ties into the stereotypical 'big green man with stitches on his head and bolts on his neck' look for the monster. Kind of wish they kept that, but I suppose it was overkill (and it would be a pain to redraw them in every panel Starline's in).

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow, I wasn't aware of that! Thanks for sharing.

@Delfite

Жыл бұрын

Darn, I was gonna say something similar to this, but you beat me to the punch.

@Gragayagataga

6 ай бұрын

Can you do a silver profile​@@JohnnyVector

The palette glitched Vector at 20:55 kind of looks like it could be a super/hyper form for him

0:06 SMG4 reference! You love to see it.

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Who doesn't love 'who let the chomp out'?

Awesome stuff as always Johnny! I always thought that little Wechnia reference at the end of Sonic Mania was so clever.

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yeah, I don't think I played Mania as Knuckles & Knuckles so I didn't discover it myself but cool to see nonetheless.

Another white echidna character in the Sonic franchise was Imperator Ix in Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood. Given how much of that game took inspiration from the Archie comics -- to the point that there was a series-ending legal debacle about it -- I'm pretty sure that Ix likely takes inspiration from Finitivus (and possibly Zachary) moreso than Wechnia, but it's still worth mentioning.

Ok I know everyone is saying this, but I would love a port of Knuckles' Chaotix to newer consoles.

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

It's a real shame Chaotix has been left out of every single Sonic compilation, including Sonic Origins Plus. It would be a perfect for Origins.

@gracekim25

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I want to try it too, especially when my intro to the team was sonic heroes

@jomaq9233

Жыл бұрын

Sega seems really allergic to 32X and Saturn rereleases (maybe emulation problems idk)

Out of all the Classic Era games, Knuckles Chaotix I think is the most deserving of some kind of remake or remaster treatment, in order to fully flesh out the gameplay and mechanics to make it all as fluid as it should be, as opposed to jerky and rubber band-y

First off, great video, I really love how dedicated you are to go through a glitched character story. For preservation purposes, this is a great one. Second, you quickly moved on Friday Night Funkin with an OC EXE called « Wechidna », well, there is another one, more well known than the other one, that is called « Chaotix ». For a quick thing, he’s the leftover data of Tails imagined as an EXE, his Normal form looks like Knuckles from the Original game although he is a cyclop for some reason, while his Beast form is the closest to Wechnia with the palette and such. While looking up into the song, the background of the beast form screams « Tails ! ». Just that thing. That’s all. Other glitched characters I’m thinking of would be the Bluckles and Redic, both of them are from Sonic 3 and Knuckles, one by a crash + reset and the other one by a Game Genie code… Bluckles name in game is Tails btw. Outside of glitch characters, we can try digging up and search for obscure characters with a one official appearance and then nothing else but that stuck up to the community, but for now nothing comes on my mind haha Anyways, great video, wish you good luck for the next ones. You might see this or not but it’s always worth it to leave it here

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Thank for for the comment and for the « Chaotix » lore!

i love wechnia and all the other pallete glitches, so much has been done with these little unintentional bugs, i love it also i know i've asked this coverage but that was a while ago, how about tikal? a review of her would be pretty interesting, especially if you delve deeper into the echidna species like with shade and the nocturus clan, really interesting stuff

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion. That would be very interesting indeed, especially because Ken Penders shenanigans would factor into the story a little as well.

@SebTheShinpuru

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector yeah penders is a whole thing to dive into, really dumb and interesting stuff

6:43 I guess you could say it's a STARLINE

What if for a fan game idea Wechnia could split into two, each representing his different color palettes and he would kind of play off the idea of using all three of himself to fling themselves around a game world at high speed and use their tethered nature for other advantages like a modern knuckles chaotix

Good lord seeing SonicCult again the way it used to be is a blast from the past from me. Think that side got me really interested in a lot of the weird and obscure side of Sonic games and even somewhat linked me into NiGHTS stuff.

Only the Sonic fandom (including the officially endorsed part - yes I mean the comics) can make a palette error glitch into an actual character, several times. Absolute madlads.

Re: headcanon, I have a bit of an idea based on what you've talked about. Off the top of my head; "Wechnia" was an Echidna mage who lived in the original Isolated Island. He'd spent his life studying magic in an attempt to win Pachacamac's favour. He wasn't very good at it, but he did discover the gliding technique, which he would later develop into full-autonomous flight by manipulating turbulence with his dreads. However, Pachacamac and his tribe, who valued brute strength over all, saw Wechnia as nothing more than a crazy old coot. Tikal and her grandmother admired Wechnia and encouraged him in his studies, but this did little to satisfy him. When Chaos attacked, Wechnia tried to avenge the fallen Pachacamac by leaping from the highest point he could find to fight Perfect Chaos alone. However, by an awful stroke of luck, Wechnia slipped off the edge and fell headfirst into the ground, dying upon impact. His body was then swallowed up by Chaos' waves and eventually entombed in the depths where what became Angel Island once lay. In Knuckles Chaotix, Isolated Island rose from the seabed, disturbing Wechnia's soul. When Knuckles went to investigate, Wechnia's ghost followed, seeing his beloved Pachacamac in him. However, neither Knuckles nor anyone else on the island ever realised this, as nobody could see or hear Wechnia, no matter how desperately the mage tried to get their attention. Wechnia continues to haunt Isolated Island to this day, still yearning to be noticed by Knuckles. Maybe he will someday...?

@neonXG

Жыл бұрын

absolutely amazing please take my like

@yellowstarproductions6743

Жыл бұрын

@@neonXG agreed

@yellowstarproductions6743

Жыл бұрын

Amazing story

Ashura was always my favorite glitch as a kid growing up, I remember telling friends that you can change the color of sonic and knuckles but no one believed me, I also think the Mecha Knuckles from Sonic Advance is a Wechnia reference, it's when you finally broke through his disguise and you see a similar color pallet, gray silver armor and red eye lens with some dark coils around his dreads, but I know thats a stretch, but it's an interesting thought.

Starline being a scientist is technically a hold over from the butchered tails from chaotix. All that happened to sonic in that game was that he got painted red and black

Hey, poster of one of those TCRF videos here. Yeah, 1207 is our most complete look at Chaotix's Tails, which features the full moveset and a palette. This moveset would remain in later prototypes, but the palette was quickly removed. He would always jump at full height, and his flying would be controlled reminiscent of how it is in Sonic Triple Trouble, entering the same way as Sonic 3 but controlling like TT. What strikes me interested the most is the animations, which remain all the way up to final. It would imply Tails was given unique sprites and animations past Crackers. There are entries for Tails's sprites, arms, and even Tails's tails in the sprite bank lists too! Unfortunately, in all versions, they fall back to Knuckles' set. Anything borrowed from Mighty is simply a default instead of a fallback. I'm interested in further figuring out the animations to give a proper (interpretated) restoration to Tails.

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment and for your work digging into Knuckles Chaotix. Any chance someone might be able to one day put out a romhack that restores Tails, based on his Crackers sprites?

@MDTravisYT

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector That is something I'd like to do someday, though that has to wait until I obtain a usable disassembly.

Brief aside about Starline; both Platypi and Echidnas are monotremes. Monotremes being mammals that lay eggs. So, you know, further connection between Knuckles and Starline.

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your zoological knowledge, I didn't know that but it's a fun little connection

@SaiyanGamer95

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector I also want to mention that tenrecs, despite looking very similar to hedgehogs, are not actually hedgehogs, nor are they related to each other in any way. But they do share similar niches in their environment and can even have similar abilities; mainly their ability to curl into a ball and the spikes all over their bodies. And Mimic the Octopus is, well, a Mimic Octopus; an octopus that gets its name due to its ability to change its color and general outline to mimic certain animals, even mimicking their behavior, so predators and other creatures will leave it alone. And going back to Starline, that hell-spur thing he has to incapacitate foes? Real-life platypi have those too, a heel-spur. Though only males can inject toxic with it. It's strong enough to kill small animals like dogs, but not larger creatures like humans. At most, it'll cause excruciating pain that can temporarily leave a person incapacitated.

Glitch characters are fascinating to me. Ashura, Wechnia, Missingno. and his many MANY siblings.... There's just something kind of magical about a character basically being made from a programming quirk. We sadly don't really get those anymore.... I could be wrong, but glitch characters seem to be a relic from an age in gaming long passed....

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

It kinda seems that way, yeah. I'm not well versed when it comes to Pokemon but I enjoyed reading about Missingno after this comment, so thanks for that.

My head canon is that Wechnia is the ghost of Knuckle's father, watching over his son from the afterlife.

I think Doctor Echidna's are popular because they are known warrior "race" at least the Knuckles clan and the opposing one from SA1 so making doctors would be the exact opposite.

I'm back again.

@ben12355

7 ай бұрын

I don ot remebre you

@stellalong1859

6 ай бұрын

Ok

9:50 that specific sprite wechnia is using is actually an unused sprite for knuckles. It was either intended for him turning around while gliding or for him transitioning into one.

0:08 -Knuckles -With sonic's colors - *T A I L S*

I'm still waiting for the Ashura&Wechnia fan-game!

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Closest thing we have right now is the Sonic 3 A.I.R. Ashura/Wechnia/Bluckles mod

@Skypatroller_BenCD

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector also is Rankles is there?

I love these kind of videos

@benmalsky9834

Жыл бұрын

Me too!

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@nostalgiagamer9452

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector they are so unique and its something you can Calle your own kind of video

I definetly think that wechnia is the most interesting glitch in the sonic series. Great video!

20:00 as soon as you mentioned srb2 I went to go tell a certain person (ruby, the same guy that made extra life) who has been making wechnia a character (although as a sprite swap, the mod in question is a port of another mod that just swaps a ton of sprites with knuckles) very cool

I love this guy

It perplexes me to no end that Knuckles’ Chaotix hasn’t ever been rereleased and has been left on the 32X. Say what you will about this game, it doesn’t deserve to be a game left behind on an underperforming system. Every Sonic fan deserves easy access to this game.

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I have no idea why Sega want to keep it buried. It would be a perfect fit for Sonic Origins or a similar compilation.

@benmalsky9834

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector If they can rerelease Sega CD games and games like Spinball and 3R Blast, there’s no reason why some 32X Games and certain Sonic games should be left behind on their original platforms.

@gracekim25

Жыл бұрын

@@benmalsky9834 yeah I want to try EVERYTHING

Nice glitch!

I'd like to see a video about Tiara, a scrapped character that was probably intended to appear in Sonic X-Treme.

You know in the sonic comic series there is this character called surge and now that i see this Ashura sonic i get the feeling that her fur color got inspired by ashura sonic

Where’s the monthly content I love watching your videos

this has for some reason occurred to me here, in this video, but with the re-rise of Sonic serialized media, it would be INCREDIBLE to have an animated IDW Sonic series- with maybe nods to Sonic the Comic and Archie Sonic- made by the creators of the new Ducktales series. I dunno, something about seeing these sleek, fun IDW characters made me think back to how those animators really updated and ran with the Ducktales universe

I've always liked the character idea of Heavy and Bomb from knuckles chaotix, that and I like their design

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. The designs are simple, but effective. Were they meant to be Robotnik agents, intentionally slowing the Chaotix down..?

@imalltheragex2000

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyVector yup (at least from what I heard) Eggman intentional programed Heavy and Bomb to be against him, and also had them join team Chaotix to act as essentially dead weight/ a hindrance to the team. I also just had a thought that maybe orb bot and cube bot might be based on the duo in a sense. They are loyal to Eggman but they trash talk about him far more often then any other bot has (expect Omega but that's a given) they also are both also share similar design to them in a way that both cube bot and Heavy are both blocky, while orb bot and bomb are spherical... Idk just had that thought recently

We must find the blue tails next!

Sonic Grams (the letter section for the Archie comic) I could've sworn confirmed the Wechina connection along with the Ashura one.

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Ahhh, you might be right about that

I'm glad that these glitch characters have inspired some characters (mostly recolors) but characters like Surge, Kit and Dr. Starline IMO are awesome, it should be noted that both an Echinda and Duck billed Platypus are both Monotreme so it kinda makes sense that Dr. Starline is inspired by Wechnia (like how Tenrecs is like a Hedgehogs)

I don't know if you've done these before, but I would love to see you do videos on Johnny Lightfoot or Porker Lewis, as I always thought they were quite underrated main characters in the Fleetway saga and had their own unique charms to them respectively. I especially liked when they started wearing the leather jackets, as it felt like they were really coming into themselves, so to speak. I also remember one of them had a bit of a ship tease with Amy Rose at one point, but I don't remember which one 😅 I wonder if (unless you've already done it?) perhaps you'd be open to doing a video on Rankles the Otter!! And thus of course, the silly (April Fools maybe???) magazine article he comes from. I've seen some fan art of him too, in which he is drawn to actually look like what you'd likely imagine an otter "Mobian" to look like, and its pretty cool!

21:01 Petition to call him "Puny".

I'm surprised that no one brought up Mecha Knuckles as a character being partially inspired by Wechnia.

Cool video thanks

20:58 I would like to name this character Bubblegum The Alligator. "Bubbles" to her friends, this bright pink mallrat never hesitates to buy anything that strikes her fancy or might make somebody she cares about happy. Her seemingly-endless supply of rings stems from a surprising aptitude for day trading, even if her somewhat airheaded and immature nature make it easy to assume she has wealthy parents that she shamelessly mooches off of (they're actually quite comfortable middle-class). She also loves all things retro and has a particular weakness for vaporwave. Bubbles has a surprisingly fast run, built up from perpetually hurrying to make it to limited-time events to meet this celebrity or watch that performance; whatever's going on, Bubblegum makes it a point to _be there._ "There's no bad time to have a good time!" - Bubbles The Gator

All I can think is, " white knuckles, hands sweaty from hanging on too tight. Clench, shut jaw , I've got another headache again."

Oh Knuckles Chaotix, sadly a game we will never see outside of Emulation again.

you just unearthed ancient childhood memories by bringing up Secrets of Sonic Team/sots Holy shit, I REMEMBER

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Haha, there's a good handful of sites that elicit that feeling from me. Stuff like The Mystical Forest Zone that used to host a bunch of sprite sheets.

Yay! 🥳 more glitch lore

Can we have a piece about Metamorphia? I always found her a tragic character and one of StC's strongest original characters! Would be cool to see your take on her character :)

Honestly. I like to think of Wechnia as a kind of alternate Tails. He was tossed out of his own dimension and it broke him, and he's now trying to fix himself

This is so interesting

In the World of Toys Palette Swaps are called redecoes.

Nice! Hey can you do Metal Knuckles next? This character video was great and it would be a crime if you haven't done Metal Knuckles yet.

New Johnny Vector let's go!!!

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Thanks pal. Let's goooo

Wechnia? Oh you mean Numbles the Coke Fiend

I'd love to see vids on Blaze the Cat and Marine the Racoon, and Belle the Tinkerer.

0:10 literally every sonic OC ever

I like to call this glitch character, Starline. Since their name is a bunch of * in a line.

Dr. Starline''s logo is literally his tail...and a line of stars.

Lore of The Wechnia Story ▸ The Mysterious White Echidna Momentum 100

*_Does anyone know what the BG music in the intro is?? Been looking for it for ages now_*

Seeing the Smg4 who let the chomp out? Thumbnail brings back memories

I mostly remember blue Knuckles. Also, if you're taking suggestions, how about a vídeo covering Tangle & Whisper? 🙂

Theory wechinia is proportinetly made to keep back up sprites without deleting them so they can use them for items an older sonic games but the mock up of sonic crackers used more sprites than knuckles chaotix unfortunately most of these were deleted but weren't forgotten so they weren't intentionally deleting these and they kept a lot of stuff in this ( jeez that was long) Hope this helped so conclusion they kept these sprites for backups and thats why wechninia exists.

@lyric2987

Жыл бұрын

I'd officially say that wechninia was a sprite and palette backup storage box

Does somebody know someone who covered some of those other pallete swap glitches? I would love to see them all

A video about tiara boobowski would totally be cool

19:33, this is a certified & Knuckles moment

I’d love to see a video on Heavy and Bomb or maybe Metal Knuckles.

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Two great suggestions, thanks. I want to tackle one of Robotnik's creations soon for sure.

Please make more sonic character profiles I love their so good

@Jelly_shy_guy_man

Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@Jelly_shy_guy_man

Жыл бұрын

He so good

@Jelly_shy_guy_man

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@Jelly_shy_guy_man

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@Jelly_shy_guy_man

Жыл бұрын

Yes

I think i'd be super fun to see what can be extracted of the Battle kukku group from Tails Adventure

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Oooh great idea, thank you. I believe they were fleshed out in the Archie comics too.

WOW You have to jumpscere me for the FNF thingy in 15:52

Yes knuckles chaotix needs to be in origin

Can you do a video Neo Metal Sonic/Metal Overlord, or maybe Witch Cart?

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestions. I think Witchcart would make for a really fun video. She's made a little IDW appearance too.

Can you do another character profile on everyone's other favorite green hedgehog scourge, one of my favorite characters

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

I suppose after Ashura and Surge, Scourge should be done next!

I would like to see a video about Heavy and Bomb, from Knuckles Chaotix.

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion. Heavy and Bomb have piqued a few people's interest so maybe!

I remember in sonic mania i pulled the blue super sonkc glitch it was crazy

nice :)

if you have read any of the sonic archie comics i was wondering if you could do a video about Fiona The Fox?! i don't know much about her sense i never got to have any of the sonic comics, Sorry for this being so long

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

I have started reading the Archie comic books. I'm really enjoying them so I'd definitely want to discuss Archie in more detail soon.

I’m back and better than ever! -Freddy Fazbear, probably _smg4_

Head banging might come from Tails animation. Notice when Tails first starts his running animation before he picks up speed he's nodding his head up and down.

How about doing the Bluckles story next?

Now we just need a pallet glitch for tails!

Makes you wonder why nobody has made some kind of hack to fully restore Tails with proper sprites

Would be cool if you did a video on Sonic Cult.

I'd love if Wechnia was a bleeding ghost of an echidna

Next you should do the best sonic character Ken Penders

Also, his people have said that he’s like another character. He’s also based off and reference by as a chaotic

Hey could you make a character profile on Bluckles (or blue knuckles)

that knukles color palet was what was left of tails

Bro. Imagine if the sonic community was the cyberpunk community.

21:10 I’ll claim mighty’s and call it purgity

The mighty one I will call Medster

Funny I actually did a new playthrough of Chaotix a week ago, it is a fun game to just go crazy in with the band mechanic, the level design is def the weak part, and the fact each stage has 5 parts instead of 2 or 3 with barely any differences it can get tiring. Just running around with the fun abilities of the Chaotix though makes it worth it imo.

@JohnnyVector

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. The levels aren't really diverse enough. They all kinda blend into one.

Can you do one on both Fiona’s the original automatic fox and her new Archie counter part?

21:04 Mecha Mighty, cuz the color palette reminds me of a variation on Mecha sonic