The WEATHER GIRLS: Too FAT for Fame? + Izora's Sad Ending | Ti Said What Ti Said Old School Scandal

Do you know the singing duo called The Weather Girls? Did you know that they performed under two different names before they became The Weather Girls? They were called Two Tons o' Fun and Two Tons. Disco singer Sylvester gave them their first break. Though they were as talented as could be, they didn't get many more breaks that did them justice. There seemed to be more focus on their weight than their amazing vocals in the 1980's, but the ladies still managed to be successful...but not as successful as they deserved to be. Do you think that they were shut out of some spaces because of their weight and size?
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  • @TisHotMessHistory
    @TisHotMessHistory3 жыл бұрын

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  • @theogberkeleygirl

    @theogberkeleygirl

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did you know Izora has a son in Oakland that sounds just like k-ci Hailey and a granddaughter that sounds like Gladys

  • @jackierobinson-hicks3879

    @jackierobinson-hicks3879

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love this group

  • @marvinwhittaker1320

    @marvinwhittaker1320

    3 жыл бұрын

    Take for instance the song "And I'm telling you" you can't find a skinny woman who can sing that song better than Jennifer Holliday and she was a BBW

  • @theresawebb1806

    @theresawebb1806

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@theogberkeleygirl I didnt know that thandi for putting me know about that.

  • @tinafiumara1952

    @tinafiumara1952

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ti I talk to my card carrier they said there's nothing wrong with my car there's something wrong with you guys that I have to fix it with you guys please Ti can you find out what's going on I was on my phone for 2 hours today they said trying a half an hour I tried and a half an hour to get a badge then I called him back they said try an hour if it don't go through that you guys have something to do with it please Ti help me

  • @rotricesummerville7910
    @rotricesummerville79103 жыл бұрын

    Martha Wash was and still is everything ⭐💜 Whew her voice..Black box was sued by Martha for 1.7mil. For using her voice on their album without her permission! & Had The Audacity to have the skinnygirl lypsynch...she won her settlement 💜💜

  • @Smoooochies

    @Smoooochies

    3 жыл бұрын

    I always wonder about that case

  • @rotricesummerville7910

    @rotricesummerville7910

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Smoooochies yeppers 💜💜💜

  • @kellybowden4701

    @kellybowden4701

    3 жыл бұрын

    C & C Music Factory too used her voice without her permission.

  • @rotricesummerville7910

    @rotricesummerville7910

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellybowden4701 Yup..sure did!💙

  • @rosieleewright8271

    @rosieleewright8271

    2 жыл бұрын

    Worth her weight in gold!

  • @MrBg76
    @MrBg763 жыл бұрын

    Whitney Houston said Martha Wash is a beautiful woman with a beautiful big voice. I agree you can't deny her voice and face....

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Martha is beautiful and her voice is phenomenal. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, B Gill!

  • @atomas59

    @atomas59

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TisHotMessHistory Yeah Martha is beautiful, but to much beauty on the face and all over.

  • @Monieloved1

    @Monieloved1

    3 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know two white men wrote it's raining men😳❤️

  • @cressapellom4205

    @cressapellom4205

    2 жыл бұрын

    We don't need Whitney to tell us that,we can see iT ourselves.

  • @SmartRobot-wc2fb

    @SmartRobot-wc2fb

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cressapellom4205 Martha's history is what it is...fortunately she found Sylvester in her way that already knew rejection and gave her the chance of her life...but the bottom line here is she would've gotten much further in her career had she controlled her weight better. Singing voice has nothing to do with weight. Living proof of that is Whitney Houston herself. You can be skinny and have a big voice. Martha was born to sing and lead not being just another background singer. Proof of that are the amount of hits her vocals helped to secure over the years and that are nowadays absolute classics.

  • @Bro33Hamza
    @Bro33Hamza3 жыл бұрын

    Martha Wash Duo With Luther Vandross On His Song " I Who Have Nothing " Is A Classic Song .

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is a BEAUTIFUL song! Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Eric Younger!

  • @pennylover1527

    @pennylover1527

    3 жыл бұрын

    I never heard that I'll google that and listen

  • @lmills6097

    @lmills6097

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love that song!

  • @isiahsteele7418
    @isiahsteele7418 Жыл бұрын

    Had Martha and Izora lost that weight, they would not have been the same. I love both girls voices!! Spectacular!!! R.I.P. Izora.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    Жыл бұрын

    They definitely both had (and Martha still does) amazing voices!

  • @Kyohan137
    @Kyohan137 Жыл бұрын

    When Izora does her solo on “You are my friend” I still get emotional when I hear it

  • @ladybug9274
    @ladybug92743 жыл бұрын

    I always loved Martha's vocals. It was frustrating that she was never fully acknowledged for her work with other groups in the 90's, like Black Box.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Martha's voice is just amazing. The amount of work that she did that went uncredited is ridiculous, Ladybug.

  • @davincibarnette

    @davincibarnette

    3 жыл бұрын

    But she was. She sued & won lawsuits which changed credits given in/on videos for all forever All credits were changed after she won on all the videos and albums after she won. The more you know.

  • @gin40

    @gin40

    3 жыл бұрын

    Martha Wash was also the voice of C&C Music Factory Everybody Dance Now. She settled with them. David Cole the producer of C&C Music Factory was suppose to produce an album for her but me died. Martha just couldn't get a break.

  • @d3dd440

    @d3dd440

    Жыл бұрын

    😭🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @stephtoneyArmyVet
    @stephtoneyArmyVet3 жыл бұрын

    Martha Wash sang the hell out of the bridge on Rebbie Jackson's 'Centipede'.

  • @BlytheWorld1972

    @BlytheWorld1972

    8 ай бұрын

    yes yes she did all the high notes MJ wanted the best for his sister and he got it .

  • @shaundagilbert52
    @shaundagilbert523 жыл бұрын

    Martha Wash sang lead vocals for C&C Music Factory's (Everybody Dance Now), and never got credit on the album, or got paid for using her voice, if u watch the video, you'll see this thin attractive model, singing over Martha's voice, Martha was never in the video, I believe she got her lawyers after them.

  • @jasminehill6312

    @jasminehill6312

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! And I think she won her lawsuit

  • @Elena-er7zp

    @Elena-er7zp

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember this! They got busted not long after Milli Vanilli but it wasn’t as nearly as big a scandal. And it soured me on mainstream music - it’s all fake and manipulative😤

  • @cynthiashesobless7155

    @cynthiashesobless7155

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m a new subscriber 🥰🥰👋🏽

  • @king-galaxiusstravinsky5766
    @king-galaxiusstravinsky57663 жыл бұрын

    Michael Jackson was a genius in many ways. "Centipede" will always have a special place in my heart. The song always brings chills up my spine. And the Weather Girls added that special sauce to it. R.I.P. to both Michael and Izora.

  • @gwendolynmurray8201

    @gwendolynmurray8201

    2 жыл бұрын

    Centipede was sung by Michael's sister Rebbie. Michael sang background .

  • @kensuazo1957

    @kensuazo1957

    Жыл бұрын

    Debbie Jackson centipede

  • @kensuazo1957

    @kensuazo1957

    Жыл бұрын

    Rebbie

  • @AccessoriesAddict5528

    @AccessoriesAddict5528

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gwendolynmurray8201 Michael Jackson WROTE 'Centipede'.

  • @lillaura622

    @lillaura622

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@gwendolynmurray8201yes, but it came out later that Martha Wash was featured on the song, esp when Rebbie couldn't produce the same vocal prowess

  • @sexytize3638
    @sexytize36383 жыл бұрын

    Their voices were amazing and Sylvester was fierce, had they been in these times they would've gotten way more recognition and fame

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would like to think that they would have gotten more recognition, but I'm just not sure because people are still very fat-phobic. It's a nice thought though. And yes, Sylvester was so fierce, sexytize3638!

  • @blankspace8758
    @blankspace87583 жыл бұрын

    Izora voice is in my top 10 of all time. Not to mention shes amazing vocalist So much range for a deep heavy voice. Amazing breath control , a beautiful tone and always on key. Now that I know she played piano it makes so much sense.

  • @isiahsteele7418

    @isiahsteele7418

    Жыл бұрын

    She blows the hell out of her piece in I got the feeling and Just Us and You are My Friend. I miss all three; Sylvester, Martha and Izora! Thank you guys for the Wonderful years of entertainment.

  • @BlytheWorld1972

    @BlytheWorld1972

    8 ай бұрын

    Both martha and izora are amazing singers and when both sang together it was out of this world martha has one of the best voices i have ever heard

  • @janellarogers1117
    @janellarogers11173 жыл бұрын

    I NEVER THOUGHT THESE QUEENS OR GODMOTHERS OF DANCE MUSIC WERE EVER "ONE HIT WONDERS"!!!!

  • @AnonymousLioness_97
    @AnonymousLioness_973 жыл бұрын

    I almost became singer... Until I learned the harsh truth about the industry! Mad love and props to them for representing us big women with talent!! Also Lizzo

  • @1dbhsa

    @1dbhsa

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with all that you said but I don’t think Lizzy can sing at all.

  • @CleoPhoenixRT

    @CleoPhoenixRT

    Жыл бұрын

    @@1dbhsa Have you heard "Cause I Love You"? The girl got pipes.

  • @macywood4619

    @macywood4619

    Жыл бұрын

    Lizzo is no where near as talented as these ladies.

  • @AndreaTAndreaT
    @AndreaTAndreaT3 жыл бұрын

    We Needed That, "It's Raining Men! Hallelujah!!"

  • @myckalaross8973

    @myckalaross8973

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love that song

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    It really was a great song, Andrea!

  • @Lightningslick

    @Lightningslick

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's raining men, AMEN !

  • @lisaaffect5872
    @lisaaffect58723 жыл бұрын

    I learned so much! Unfortunately black women can't be mediocre like other races. Black women have to work harder.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad that I could share something new with you. I generally agree with your statement, but there are exceptions to black women being able to be mediocre. Sometimes they can be if they are deemed to be extraordinarily beautiful. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Lisa Affect!

  • @iceprincess825

    @iceprincess825

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TisHotMessHistory the ratchet stereotype is less than mediocre.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@iceprincess825 I'm not referring to rachet stereotypes. For instance, the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air replacement for Aunt Viv. Mediocre. And perceived to be pretty.

  • @iceprincess825

    @iceprincess825

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TisHotMessHistory so she was allowed to be mediocre because of her looks?

  • @AndreaTAndreaT

    @AndreaTAndreaT

    3 жыл бұрын

    Used To. Now, Practically Everybody Really Known Is Mediocre. Lol.

  • @staceydupree8488
    @staceydupree84883 жыл бұрын

    Two beautiful women with amazing voices ❤️

  • @TruSpirit555
    @TruSpirit5553 жыл бұрын

    Yesssss the Weather Girls.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 it’s sad the the music industry ostracize big body rather than celebrate the talent. Them women can blow ballparks out. Another one in your video capsule 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 thank you

  • @Moonewitch

    @Moonewitch

    3 жыл бұрын

    💯💯💯💯

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes. The music industry is horrible to overweight women. It's shameful. Thank YOU for watching, Tru Spirit!

  • @true1evanique
    @true1evanique3 жыл бұрын

    "Dance To The Disco Heat" completely won me over to Sylvester and Two Tons of Fun. I had to be on the dance floor when that song played. I think it was 1980, Martha Wash got a lot of airplay with, "Taking Away Your Space" on the R&B stations in Chicago. As far as their appearance, I never thought anything about it because people are biologically different having their own natural look at that time, unlike today.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bet that Disco Heat was a great song for the disco club. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Evanique!

  • @sandrabrown4283
    @sandrabrown42833 жыл бұрын

    When I was a kid, I remember hearing and reading that not being able to lose weight, caused Chery Lynn her career. She had a huge hit with a song called "To be Real" so sad.

  • @Lightningslick

    @Lightningslick

    2 жыл бұрын

    So that is why she disappeared ?

  • @gwendolynmurray8201

    @gwendolynmurray8201

    2 жыл бұрын

    The song was called Got To Be Real. I have the original 45.

  • @gwendolynmurray8201

    @gwendolynmurray8201

    2 жыл бұрын

    I saw Cheryl Lynn on a exercise infomercial years ago.

  • @myckalaross8973

    @myckalaross8973

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gwendolynmurray8201 I love that song ❤

  • @eshim3961
    @eshim39612 жыл бұрын

    I think Martha Wash has one of the greatest female voices of all time. It's kind of sad to think that nearly everybody on the planet has, at minimum heard her sing "everybody dance now", most people don't know who she is. It's a shame, because I think that she was, and still is a very beautiful woman. Today, we have Lizzo and Adele (before she lost all that weight), to look at as heavier women that have found success, but Martha outclassed them both.

  • @NelsonStJames
    @NelsonStJames2 жыл бұрын

    In a way you can blame it on the music industry and the optics they started pushing on the music industry, but you can also place a lot of that on the public as well, who started to shift away from talent, and began to focus more on the spectacle and theatrics of performers, above talent, until if you didn't "look" like an entertainer, nobody cared what you sounded like. Success today is based more on marketing that talent, and that's pretty much across all the arts in the age of the internet.

  • @Lightningslick

    @Lightningslick

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do you think the use, popularity, and marketability of music videos, which focused on style, dance, and image, had anything to do with it ?

  • @zheahra
    @zheahra3 жыл бұрын

    You're doing a wonderful job at your commentary on our great entertainers. I appreciate you for humanizing The Weather Girls and helping us to appreciate them and their talent. It's a shame. Ppl tend to see "fat" as not a person. Do you know about a singer from the '60s who walked on crutches? He made a few albums. My mother saw him perform. She said the crowd was so mean because he came on the stage with crutches. They booed at him. He could really sing, too. We can be so cruel and very shallow.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for the beautiful compliments. I truly believe that talented people need to be recognized for their talent. I'm not familiar with the singer you referenced. Do you know his name? Thank you so much for watching and commenting, zheahra!

  • @loirinlancaster3
    @loirinlancaster32 жыл бұрын

    They were indeed Sylvester’s legacy. What’s amazing is they were respected for their voices and that was what their fans payed attention to.

  • @titochulo5974
    @titochulo59742 жыл бұрын

    I grew up listening to them and even as a child I didnt noticed their size because I was not taught to be disrespectful. I was taught to have an ear for all genres of music and to appreciate their vocal talents. I really miss these 2 ladies as well as Sylvester the King of Dance & House

  • @darrengreen9273
    @darrengreen92732 жыл бұрын

    This is why the late great Vesta Williams had such a problem with the industry. Large dynamic voice just like Cheryl Lynn. Heavy set woman bursting with talent

  • @rodneyplayer5785
    @rodneyplayer57853 жыл бұрын

    I really hate that these girls were not marketed right because they had beautiful voices. I'm glad I got the chance to see them perform live in the early 80's.

  • @chuckcalkins5546
    @chuckcalkins55463 жыл бұрын

    Martha and Izora are great singers

  • @prettybrowngirl71
    @prettybrowngirl713 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this story. It’s so disheartening that the article totally dismissed how talented these women are. This was extremely condescending. It’s sad but this attitude still exists . If women are considered attractive to society standards. We are often overlooked professionals. I will admit it’s not as blunt it’s still there. Sad. Again thank for showcasing two extremely talented and beautiful women.

  • @goldbrooks
    @goldbrooks3 жыл бұрын

    Martha's face was REALLY PRETTY

  • @aweofme

    @aweofme

    3 жыл бұрын

    Still is

  • @antoinettecannon8749

    @antoinettecannon8749

    3 жыл бұрын

    Izora was pretty too; they both were

  • @kokainejane773

    @kokainejane773

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why not just say Martha was REALLY PRETTY "🙄🤔js

  • @gunterkeegan670
    @gunterkeegan6703 жыл бұрын

    Very informative and unfortunate. All I knew is they had fantastic voices. The fact that Jet made fun of them is indeed, "cringe worthy."

  • @junglekutz5625

    @junglekutz5625

    Жыл бұрын

    Although I never heard of them, I can believe that folk did make fun of them. Nothing has changed, as certain folk subscribe to making fun of people that they can find or believe they can find short comings and vulnerable traits in. You would think that established individuals that are financially secure and experienced would *find folly in things that are humorous vs this kinda *stuff. As this is the kind of things that wayward and ignorant children goof off on.

  • @williamrichardson24
    @williamrichardson243 жыл бұрын

    They were beautiful and talented! I really love me some Martha Wash!! Her duet with Luther Vandross, “I Who Have Nothing “ was 🔥🔥🔥. Thank you for the video Ti!! Exceptional work as usual!!

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    They really were beautiful and talented, William. I love Martha Wash too and I LOVE that duet with Luther. They sound AMAZING. Thank YOU for watching the video and for the compliment. Thank you for coming to the live stream too!

  • @williamrichardson24

    @williamrichardson24

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TisHotMessHistory you’re welcome 😊

  • @KreKre99
    @KreKre993 жыл бұрын

    Why do I always laugh at that Umar clip at the end 😂

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because you have a GREAT sense of humor. LOL! Thank you so much for watching and commenting, KreKre99!

  • @KreKre99

    @KreKre99

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TisHotMessHistory you're most welcome. I truly enjoy your content ☺️

  • @djoldsoulkid3407
    @djoldsoulkid34073 жыл бұрын

    THAT'S sad those women COULD SANG and they're beautiful the industry is evil smh

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    It really is sad. They were SUCH good singers. You are right about the industry. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, DJ Oldsoulkid!

  • @djoldsoulkid3407

    @djoldsoulkid3407

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TisHotMessHistory anytime!

  • @janellarogers1117
    @janellarogers11173 жыл бұрын

    IN 2004 I DID A TRIBUTE TO IZORA IN MY HIPHOP DANCE SHOW IN JANESVILLE, WI BY SINGING "IT'S RAINING MEN" BUT COULDN'T GET PAST THE CHORUS "IT'S RAINING MEN" SO THE SONG WAS PULLED OFF THE PROGRAM BECAUSE I KEPT LAUGHING DURING REHEARSAL BECAUSE I KEPT CONNECTING THE SONG TO THE "IN LIVING COLOR" SKIT WITH DAMON WAYANS AND DAVID ALLEN GRIER!

  • @lyndapyleskelly
    @lyndapyleskelly3 жыл бұрын

    As all ways, we'll done TI, I would love for you to speak on Jennifer Holiday. You have a great speaking voice, much gratitude.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the compliment, Lynda! If I can think of an angle (or if you can give me one) for a Jennifer Holiday video, I'd be open to doing one.

  • @lyndapyleskelly

    @lyndapyleskelly

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TisHotMessHistory perhaps speak to her weight loss and how it impacted her, her fans and the industry. Just a thought.

  • @jeanettejames5528
    @jeanettejames55282 жыл бұрын

    Keke Wyatt is absolutely the beat vocalist in the game. Her career didn’t take off because of her weight.

  • @annadimples7599
    @annadimples75993 жыл бұрын

    Gm . To Everyone have a safe wknd .

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good morning, Anna Dimples! You have a safe weekend too!

  • @CynthiaJacobbrown
    @CynthiaJacobbrown Жыл бұрын

    These women were the best powerhouse singers and should have been shown the respect the deserve.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    Жыл бұрын

    I totally agree.

  • @natashabrown6147
    @natashabrown61473 жыл бұрын

    People back in the day stayed worrying bout somebody weight im not over weight but talent is talent!! Great video❤

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm with you. Talent is talent and I don't think that it should be overlooked or passed on because of someone's weight. I have never been overweight either. I just don't like seeing people lose out on something they deserve just because of their weight. Thank you for the compliment, Natasha Brown!

  • @AndreaTAndreaT

    @AndreaTAndreaT

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TisHotMessHistory Well, I Am And It Is Hard As Heck To Lose Weight.

  • @bryanwiley5511
    @bryanwiley55112 жыл бұрын

    Media! When we learn to stop the media from telling us we have to look a certain way, Entertainment will be much better. Way to many Black Female Artist have been dogged about their weight, I can name a lot, but one in particular is "Sybil" she remade "Don't Make Me Over" which she took from a ballad to a dance song, and it was done with perfection.

  • @sabretooth717
    @sabretooth7173 жыл бұрын

    U forgot that Martha Walsh sang for c and c music factory...sweat.!...they used her voice and tried not to pay her.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    I didn't forget it. I mentioned in this video that I will be doing a follow up video on Martha Wash.

  • @curtistisdale8150
    @curtistisdale81503 жыл бұрын

    This is going to be Legendary because these "Goddess of Song" were behind-the-scenes "Taking No Shorts" ( allegedly). Martha Wash was alleged to have "That Mouth-piece" and would cut someone down in a heartbeat. It's alleged she liked her smoke ( Not Mad at that) but no one could sing like that at that time. RIP Ms. Izora A., who literally was this Force of Nature.... I'm so glad these women are getting their shine because "Just Us" is literally One of My Favorite Songs Ever!!!! 2 Women created lead, background, harmonies, melodies, runs, and bridges that no one came close to how Amazing this song sounded.

  • @ChefCarter

    @ChefCarter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Someone's excited about this topic!

  • @curtistisdale8150

    @curtistisdale8150

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ChefCarter Sho' is!!!! Thanks for noticing.. Come On 11:00😎😁😎😁

  • @ChefCarter

    @ChefCarter

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@curtistisdale8150 I've always liked the song, "It's Raining Men." In college my chorale group sang it for a performance. We were an all girl group with women of all shapes and sizes from international backgrounds. We brought the house down with that song!

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate your enthusiasm for this topic. Thank you so much for attending the premiere. I'm thankful for people like you who appreciate my work, Curtis Tisdale.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ChefCarter I'm glad that someone is excited about it! LOL! I need EVERYBODY to be excited!

  • @goldieluxx9356
    @goldieluxx93562 жыл бұрын

    It's sad that the music industry is like this first off music is for your ears not your eyes

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    2 жыл бұрын

    It really is sad. People with talent should be able to make it in the music industry. Thank you for commenting, Goldie Luxx!

  • @Moonewitch
    @Moonewitch3 жыл бұрын

    That's why Jennifer Hudson's relationship with her son's father disintegrated. He wanted more children and she didn't want to risk gaining weight.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. I don't keep up with her enough to have known that. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, moonewitch!

  • @Introvertsan

    @Introvertsan

    3 жыл бұрын

    Didnt know that however it makes sense especially if you are from a family who are naturally much bigger, store fat easily and are typically bigger when they are older more children makes that harder to maintain

  • @lisaellis2593

    @lisaellis2593

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Introvertsan Yep, its hereditary

  • @jenniferchery2727

    @jenniferchery2727

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Introvertsan wwww×ww

  • @Moonewitch

    @Moonewitch

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TisHotMessHistory You're most welcome darlin! Thank you for the awesome videos!

  • @hiphophistory2218
    @hiphophistory22182 жыл бұрын

    I was in love with Jennifer Hudson when she was bigger. She's still beautiful, but I started paying attention when she was on American Idol.

  • @v.a.993
    @v.a.9933 жыл бұрын

    I do a mean impression of Miss Izora whenever I sing Make Someone Happy, one of Two Tons biggest hits.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very cool! You must be a really good singer, Vanessa.

  • @saundrabrown1873
    @saundrabrown18732 жыл бұрын

    Back in the 1990's those new jack groups would use Martha Walsh voice for artists that couldn't even sing or speak English! I remember a singer was on soul train lip singing using Martha's voice but couldn't speak during Don Cornelius interview after the song 🤔

  • @queenladybug1702
    @queenladybug17023 жыл бұрын

    "Beauty Politics" what a way to put it but unfortunately 😕 it's the truth. Another awesome video, keep up the good work 👍.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    It really IS unfortunate. A horrible sad truth that I think will never go away. Thank you so much for the compliment, and I am going to keep getting these videos out every week, Diane Ladybug Hudson!

  • @v.a.993
    @v.a.9933 жыл бұрын

    It is funny that you include a picture of Pebbles. Just the other I was in a place where her 80s hit Girlfriend was playing, and all I could think was that she could not sing. I had not heard that song in a long time and had not missed it. It had that cheesy 80s bubble gum pop sound.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's funny. I actually just realized this year that Pebbles couldn't sing. I won't lie - I like a lot of her songs. But I watch a lot of old performance footage, and I watched her on Showtime At The Apollo. A performance from 1980-something. And she sounded HORRIBLE and she couldn't dance. It was all around terrible. She was singing Mercedes Boy. It's here on KZread. You should check it out for a good laugh, Vanessa.

  • @omoowobhd

    @omoowobhd

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TisHotMessHistory Something similar happened with Cassie on 106 and Park with her song Me & You

  • @Inksplash52
    @Inksplash523 жыл бұрын

    Wooow didn't know they sung on Rebi centipede. That was one of my favorite songs back in the day

  • @braidedgirl757
    @braidedgirl7573 жыл бұрын

    Just Us....Is still one of my favorite songs to this day ...they are so underrated

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    It really is a great song, and you are so right, can i kickit. They are flat out underrated. So sad.

  • @LOAblue
    @LOAblue2 жыл бұрын

    It's raining men is my favorite guilty pleasure song.

  • @janellarogers1117
    @janellarogers11173 жыл бұрын

    SO THAT'S THE UNFORTUNATE TRUTH ABOUT THE MUSIC BUSINESS!!!!

  • @MakupNluvMusic
    @MakupNluvMusic2 жыл бұрын

    Love these beauties.. Dance disco heat,you are my friend and just us are my jams!!! You can't have a family get together without that being played. Oh an you are my friend well,that speaks for itself the 3 of them played no games hunny.. Have you calling your bestie cryin and ish🤭 Thank you for this 💎

  • @TheTanay231
    @TheTanay2312 жыл бұрын

    I used to see Martha wash on drag race as a judge , when I seen her on Sylvester unsung episode I looked her up. Take away your space is where her vocals shine

  • @henrysmifth536
    @henrysmifth5362 жыл бұрын

    Martha wash made some of the biggest hits in music history

  • @brownbagz
    @brownbagz3 жыл бұрын

    Martha looks like my deceased mother! I miss that woman!!!

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    My condolences to you, Brown Bagz.

  • @brownbagz

    @brownbagz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TisHotMessHistory thank you so much sweetheart!

  • @brownbagz

    @brownbagz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Everyone in my life that I loved or big women and I miss them so much

  • @ottabee
    @ottabee3 ай бұрын

    Thank-you for this video, Ti. These two women will always be sacred hystery!

  • @n.j.rihari813
    @n.j.rihari8132 жыл бұрын

    Luv the Weather Girls they were a Powerhouse of incomparable Talent and what they did on Centipede was outstanding! ❤️❤️

  • @tvlenox8493
    @tvlenox84933 жыл бұрын

    Love that song...it's raining....wild and fabulous!

  • @QueenMotherIv
    @QueenMotherIv3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for posting this. I adore Sylvester and the girls. Always wanted to get more info on Izora, particularly.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank YOU for watching this. I adore them all too. Thank you so much for commenting, Ivory The QueenMother.

  • @mindyourmess4386
    @mindyourmess43863 жыл бұрын

    GREAT video!! Thank for highlighting these 2 women's talent. Can't wait the Marsha Walsh vid

  • @collettedaniels3884
    @collettedaniels38843 жыл бұрын

    Madonna, JLo, Brittney Spears, Camila Cabello, and Taylor Swift.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ooh-wee! These lists are going to cause some controversy and I love it! I agree with your 5 except for Madonna. But I'm just asking for everyone's OPINIONS, so clearly there is no right or wrong. Thank you so much for coming to the premiere, Collette Daniels!

  • @collettedaniels3884

    @collettedaniels3884

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m not a Madonna hater. I just don’t feel like she is strong vocally. Take a bow is still my jam. I feel like the machine behind Madonna contributed to her success more than raw talent.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@collettedaniels3884 I get what you're saying. Music tastes are going to be all over the place. I love Madonna but I hate Take A Bow. I think that the 80's kid in me likes her because of her fast dance songs in the 80s.

  • @Blessedbythalord
    @Blessedbythalord3 жыл бұрын

    That beat tho!!! 🔥

  • @dalehoward3704
    @dalehoward37042 жыл бұрын

    As far as weight, look at the way some certain circles treat Lizzo??! And she's wonderfully talented!!!

  • @ninosimone
    @ninosimone3 жыл бұрын

    Strong beautiful VOICES

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are so right! Thank you so much for watching and commenting, IamNinosimone!

  • @ingridarthur821
    @ingridarthur8212 жыл бұрын

    Oh wooow....THANK YOU for this AMAZING DOCUMENTARY of the Weather Girls! I am the young lady who stepped in those shoes of Izora Armstead. Worked with her before she passed! Blessings to you!!

  • @martinj3672
    @martinj36723 жыл бұрын

    Lovely video as always Ti. Looking forward to many more.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for the compliment, Martin J! I get these out every week. You'll have a new by Saturday.

  • @darrengreen9273
    @darrengreen92732 жыл бұрын

    People are not aware of this fact, there are many multi platinum hits out there with Martha Wash doing all the leads she just didn’t get the singing credits as was also done in the case of Milli Vanilli.

  • @eugeniabrown9906
    @eugeniabrown99062 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for a well-done review of two of my favorite singers.

  • @Bryantthewizz
    @Bryantthewizz3 жыл бұрын

    I love your background music on these videos!

  • @joshuamcdowell9745
    @joshuamcdowell97453 жыл бұрын

    Jennifer Holliday went through the same thing.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Too many overweight women singers go through similar things. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, Joshua McDowell!

  • @modgafr1852

    @modgafr1852

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes I remembered when simon on american idol told her that. He was so wrong😔

  • @joshuamcdowell9745

    @joshuamcdowell9745

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@modgafr1852 That was Jennifer Hudson

  • @kathysanders6183
    @kathysanders61832 жыл бұрын

    I love your celebrity gossip.. Who would have known all of this inside information. Thank you so much for sharing. Arsenio Hall would be another good one. 😊

  • @TinaBriLex
    @TinaBriLex6 ай бұрын

    Just found your channel and is loving it!!! I remember these talented women and the song "Its Raining Men" when i was 5 or 6 yrs old. I loved their powerful voices and danced to the song. Thanks for reminding me of these remarkable ladies and providing insight on their lives and career

  • @champaigne16
    @champaigne162 жыл бұрын

    J-lo, Brittany, are two that come to my mind.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with both of those for sure. Thank you for commenting, Benita Nelson!

  • @tru2love610
    @tru2love6102 жыл бұрын

    Dope video thanks Ti!! Some of the best club music I’ve ever heard

  • @ndorsey1969able
    @ndorsey1969able3 жыл бұрын

    Another great story Ti thank you!

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, ndoresey1969able. Thank YOU for watching!

  • @bunniefinley5840
    @bunniefinley58403 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, great info

  • @djronniebruno
    @djronniebruno Жыл бұрын

    Love your channel. The best info on Sylvester and The Weather Girls. ❤️

  • @DaLVShow
    @DaLVShow3 жыл бұрын

    That question on how women who were overweight but sing really good only two came to mind. Jennifer Holliday who was in Dreamgirls, the stage play and Kelly Price came to mind. Both started as big women who would later lose the weight. Great artists you may want to do a video on soon.

  • @wills2605
    @wills26052 жыл бұрын

    What an excellent video & narration & superb psychological profile. This has to be one of the best documentaries on KZread. Thank you.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi wills! WOW! Thank you SO MUCH for your beautiful compliments on my work. I am truly humbled.

  • @territimmerman140
    @territimmerman1402 жыл бұрын

    These ladies had amazing talent. It's such a shame that the music industry was willing to overlook that talent based on nothing more than their weight. It's just another form of bigotry. The industry and public missed out on their talent being able to grow and mature because it was stunted unfairly before the growth could really begin.

  • @donnab.333
    @donnab.3332 жыл бұрын

    I remember Two Tons of Fun/Weather Girls. I also know of Martha Walsh & her singing on many club/house tracks.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    2 жыл бұрын

    They made some really great music together and Martha's solo music is amazing too. Thank you for commenting, Donna B.

  • @ShyeNYC
    @ShyeNYC3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for uploading...I really enjoyed watching! I heard Martha and Izora had a falling out and were still not on speaking terms at the time of Izora's death. I'm glad that wasn't the case.

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank YOU for watching. Like you, I was glad to know that they remained friends. Thank you so much for watching and commenting, ShyeNYC!

  • @PatriciaPageMosaicArtsCrafts
    @PatriciaPageMosaicArtsCrafts2 жыл бұрын

    Great commentary you did them proud 👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾

  • @QueenBthatsMe777
    @QueenBthatsMe7773 жыл бұрын

    😭😭😭😭 I miss you guys... I love you all and I love the heck outta this video! Im disappointed in JET but not a bit surprised by their article. It be our own ppl. Smh I came on to find the Bernadette video that I missed. They should have been collecting royalties from that one shampoo commercial that boasts, "gonna wash that grey right outta my hair"

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    We miss you too! How are you doing? Jet & Ebony have a history of being problematic. Not enough people seemed to catch on decades ago. The Weather Gils couldn't collect royalties on I'm GonnaWash That Man Right Outta My Hair because it's not their original song. The song is from the South Pacific musical from the 1950s. I hope that we get to see you in a live stream soon, QueenB!

  • @QueenBthatsMe777

    @QueenBthatsMe777

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TisHotMessHistory oohhhh... ok. I see. Theirs is a sad story, but I love how they loved themselves, in spite of. So much talent overshadowed by stupidity of body shaming. It saddens me. I lost a loved one and on Wednesday a sister friend of mine lost her sister, but God is!!! I hope to see y'all tonight... I hope! Meanwhile, I gotta catch the THE MISS BERNADETTE STANIS broadcast, honey child!!! Lol love y'all and Ti.... you are doing an AWESOME job! Please keep doing what u are doing!

  • @davidearlford6140
    @davidearlford61403 жыл бұрын

    thank you very much for educating me on The Weather Girls I had no idea what these girls went through it didn't even know that much about Sylvester even though I grew up in the late 70s early 80s but seeing both of these documentaries it is a blessing because we need to keep our history alive for everybody can see everything that goes on when it's music Sylvester was a gym and I've heard some stuff about him only just through here say and The Weather Girls of course it's raining men was the only song that I ever heard about from them so thank you for bringing this to me it is so wonderful

  • @angelawilliams971
    @angelawilliams9713 жыл бұрын

    Two tons of fun beautiful women who could sing.

  • @pammajor1344
    @pammajor13443 жыл бұрын

    Loved it!

  • @jasminehill6312
    @jasminehill63123 жыл бұрын

    This was great! I've always wondered what happened to Izora.

  • @lymarie1974
    @lymarie19743 жыл бұрын

    All of them are forever legends ♥️♥️. The writer of that terrible article was mostly saying " the entertainment was watching obese people dance and singing." Just sicking. How hurtful. The writing of yester year would be shot down now.

  • @torriebrown9607
    @torriebrown96072 жыл бұрын

    love love love these Divassssssssss

  • @kelceymccray5265
    @kelceymccray52652 жыл бұрын

    I must say I enjoy your content your page . Many blessings to you continue success.

  • @vernaemcalpine3159
    @vernaemcalpine315911 ай бұрын

    These women deserve to have their story done properly and be authentically accurate

  • @adelina7
    @adelina73 жыл бұрын

    ❤❤❤great video Ti!

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Adelina!

  • @allancesterjr4494
    @allancesterjr44943 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are SO WELL PUT TOGETHER ! I SUBSCRIBED ! Thanks and keep up the great work 👌

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the beautiful compliment. I will definitely keep up the great work as long as people want to see it. Thank you so much for watching and subscribing, Allan C Ester Jr! I get these old school scandal videos out every week. I live stream a little too. In case you are interested, Oran Juice Jones live streams with us every other Thursday. I hope that you enjoy it here!

  • @sharjjahnaziz4122
    @sharjjahnaziz41223 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this post !!! Yessss !!!

  • @andretyroneii941
    @andretyroneii9413 жыл бұрын

    For me, main problem was image and titles. Like two tons of fun, think big, etc. Its made them attached to their weight too much. Even though it's made them more famous (kinda) its ruined their serious image. Only people who actually listened to their whole albums know how talented they were. Most average but pretty singer I know is probably Taylor swift. Thanks u for making this video. There ain't no much vids about them and it's pretty sad. Love ur channel Ti

  • @TisHotMessHistory

    @TisHotMessHistory

    3 жыл бұрын

    The problem that you have with them is exactly what I'm pointing out in this video. The industry didn't take them seriously and their size was played up in almost everything they did. It hurt them in the end. I agree with Taylor Swift. Thank YOU for watching my video! I'm thankful to know that you love my channel, Shumba Chidawo.

  • @DARLENEIAM
    @DARLENEIAM3 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE MARTH WASH- ALWAYS HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL! ON THE STRENGTH!!!!!

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