Critical changes or corrections will be here since this IS based on beta information. Hope this guide proves to be a helpful reference and stay tuned for the individual in-depth guides!

@Ubeer85

10 күн бұрын

According to the wowhead profession calculator you still need atleast 10 points to unlock the first subspec and for blacksmithing 15 points

So glad there's a creator who focuses on professions as much as you do. Thanks Soul!

@surin9030

25 күн бұрын

Fam, I really appreciate the complexity that professions now bolster, but damn is it confusing as a returning player. So hype to get back!!

@warlock3691

25 күн бұрын

Look up Penguinr2gt. She focuses on professions and making money in WoW.

@jbarlak

20 күн бұрын

Not like there aren’t others

As someone that plays a lot of alts, many of which gather mats to support every profession, I LOVE the new bank feature for my reagents. It is going to save so much time not having to log in and out to mail mats. This is a huge quality of life improvement for someone like me.

I've been a JC since TBC. Always loved doing my profession. Dragonflight is the first exp that i just gave up on it. It's just not fun anymore, too complicated, and feels like a job, not a game profession. Thank you for your video bro

@SoulSoBreezy

25 күн бұрын

So professions aren't supposed to feel like a job...?

@7PlayingWithFire7

25 күн бұрын

Tbh it's similar complexity as SL leggos, except it doesn't depend on you spending millions to be able to craft items that'll give you a return of 50000%. More variety. It's gameplay now, unlike old professions which were just cancel scan spamming auction houses, which suuucks

@ryanrenshaw8572

24 күн бұрын

It’s way better now … it’s an actual part of gaming now and using brain instead of just clicking combine mindlessly A lot of people enjoy the new pillar of the game as raiding past normal or mythic dungeons or PvP just DOES NOT APPEAL to most of the player base which you can surmise by looking at logs and estimating how many players truly participate seriously in the higher end game PvP / raids / dungeons as it’s just not that fun and the gear only lasts about 180 days until it’s useless Just my opinion though 😊 so doesn’t mean anything other than another opinion

@Dryzual

22 күн бұрын

Professions are actually interesting and relevant to non AH tycoons now.

@mlykke

12 күн бұрын

@LordKatulu40 - I completely agree. I've enjoyed JC since TBC as well and I find the Dragonflight approach to professions overly complicated without providing any fun. Professions still have the samme issue that they always had, that most of what you can make is useless with the exception of a few key items. Even levelling professions have gotten super annoying - Getting stuck around 70-75 and only have a single recipe that you can craft to gain additional levels because there is no more to learn from the trainer. WOTLK was by far the best expansion fra professions. Every piece of gear had sockets, so people needed a lot of gems. It also ment that a lot of professions relied on eachother and thus resulting ina. circular economy. You needed glyphs, flasks, feasts, enchants, transmutes etc. Today that is severely limited with a lot of gear that can't be enchanted, doesn't contain sockets etc. Enchants and sockets as in WOTLK also provided you with much more flexibility in adjusting stats on your gear. In recent expansions gear is much more similar in stats and when you want your 4 piece-set bonus and some of the items don't have the stats for your particular build, thats just tough luck. At least with many more sockets it would allow you to adjust stats a bit. Overall Dragonflight was a good expansion, but it did introduce too many complexities that didn't provide any fun, just chores. An insane amount of currencies and reagents that fills your bags. And to craft that specific item now you need to farm a specific crest/spark etc. Would have been better if they had halfed the amount of different tokens/reagents and made it so other professions could craft them and give a solid circular economy.

Thanks a million for all the work! All the professions info has been very useful since you started those in DF.

just resubbed after 1.5 years and this is exactly what i was looking for regarding professions, thanks!

I never expected to enjoy a video about crafting this much 😂 thanks for your upload mate. Highly appreciated and a nice vibe. Happy to sub and check some more content

Well thought out and great information, I will be returning to professions in TWW, looking forward to the coming guides as well. Thanks man, :)

After not being involved in crafting professions for like 10 years I finally got fed up with wasting money on pots/phials and rolled alchemy. I found it surprisingly fun in Dragonflight and this video helped me decide to stay committed to it in TWW

Very solid breakdown. It has dat oldschool Breezy vibe 👑

Very informative vid thanks man! Also, dope shirt.

Thanks that was helpful. Looking forwards to more.😊

Nice work! 👍

Glad someone is looking at professions, also glad to know that i will have a way to use the BOP artisan thing, i have thousands of it on my DF character and can do nothing with it

Thanks for this as a nice head start

The utmost important question for me is: Is the new system designed again to serve 0.001% of crafters who are price fixing and mass reporting others? What are your thoughts on this? I feel like they have come up with the npc work orders to give regular players a fake way out by not disrupting the actual crafters. As a player with a lot of max level professions at dragonflight, I always felt pushed out of the market by trade chat spammers. I think the idea from Blizz should be to change direction and make it difficult for ALL CRAFTERS to spam high level items, add a cap to private orders or remove them, make public orders a fair marketplace for all, removing its cap and bringing minimum quality there. I really do not understand why they are moving to make the game less enjoyable to masses but a few price fixing chat spammers.

@williamcolgin1987

25 күн бұрын

The new Concentration mechanic seems like it will spread the crafting work load among more crafters. Current chat spammers will literally only be able to produce a few max level crafts per day. Not sure what “price fixing” you experienced. Most crafts on my server were tip based unless they required an Insight to max the craft and then it was only 5-10k since insight was a time gated resource.

@SoulSoBreezy

25 күн бұрын

Couple bullet points: - I'm on a fairly high pop server but don't trade spam, I wait for clients to spam instead while I do other things in town, and I've made a great deal of gold that way. - I do more AH sales via selling R3 reagents. There's this mentality that crafted gear is all there is to DF professions and will bring up your point about how awful it is to trade chat spam. So don't do it. Participate in a market that's successful for you, don't just wish for the game to work the way you want to and expect it to happen. TWW profesions are trying to solidify a thriving reagent market based on the AH. People just need to get it out of their heads that the finished product isn't all there is to professions. - There're immediate consequences to your suggestions. Capping/removing private orders negatively affects people who just want to craft for friends or people who know each other. Adding a minimum quality to public orders takes out one of the big reasons for this system in the first place - encouraging human interaction for commerce. - Ranty bit here, but it's distressing that there're people out there who dislike the notion of having to "know" who the best crafters are, and are more concerned with immediate convenience. Somewhere in here, the MMORPG part of the game has to play a part.

@7PlayingWithFire7

25 күн бұрын

What is he talking about? What price fixing and mass reporting? Somehow I doubt these are actual problems. Show me receipts

@savorerguru

23 күн бұрын

@@7PlayingWithFire7 I tried crafting with LW and BS at the start of the expansion on EU-TN. I got mass reported by bots if I priced under the market. There are tons of reddit posts about this. Not alone, happened to a lot of players mostly a week of trade chat ban for being mass reported by price fixers

@savorerguru

23 күн бұрын

@@SoulSoBreezy I never went ahead and accused you of anything. I play on TN - EU. When I started out there were tons of trade chat spamming bots, now we have 3-4 crafters that have discords with 7 alts crafting everything and using their private discord to communicate with players. I don't think this is encouraging communication in an MMORPG in the way that is intended or useful. In the days of Vanilla, Wotlk and TBC crafters had to save daily cooldowns (like mooncloth etc) and you had to build actual trust and relationships to get the items crafted. Current level of comms are superficial and just lets get this done kind of talk which is useless that is why tools like LFG, AH are taking over, people do not like repetitive talks anyway. But yes I think with the current state of the game with so many gold sinks, we need professions to uplift the players and be a tool in their belt. With the current state it's just designed for

this was very clear and concise, thank you :3 !

Something that would be cool to spice up public orders: if the commission was based on the max rank craft, and a lower rank craft would reward a lower % of the commission scaling down. Any commission not earned by the crafter would be refunded to the purchasing player. Unlike the current public orders where the crafter has 0 incentive to make a better item. If you can only do a limited number of public orders per day there is an incentive to maximize the return you would get from those orders and might consider using concentration to bump up that public order, benefiting both the crafter and customer

@7PlayingWithFire7

25 күн бұрын

That sounds nice, but public orders rarely ever tip in any meaningful way. Or I guess most of the good ones are filled right away, despite 4 work order a day limit

This is exactly the content I was looking for to get a leg up on TWW. I made so many wrong choices in DF that pretty much left me permanently hamstrung. Thanks!

Good info, thanks!

I always thought crafting should have been an alternative route to gearing seperate from dungeons/raids but it's not, never has been. Every crafted piece requires some mat that drops off a raid or dungeon boss, so it's basically just a bad luck protection system that u have to sink a buncha time and gold into. U go raid and get no gear but every boss dropped a crafting mat so then u take your 10 mats and go make a piece of raid gear so you get something.

@williamcolgin1987

25 күн бұрын

Wouldn’t that just be a pay to win system?

@thisismychannel607

25 күн бұрын

@@williamcolgin1987 everything's acquired in-game though, nothings bought with RL money off a cash shop or whatever

@SoulSoBreezy

25 күн бұрын

This is false. There are no recipes in DF or TWW that require raid/dungeon drops.

@williamcolgin1987

25 күн бұрын

@@thisismychannel607 it's all tied together. Gold can be purchased with real money through the wow token. Currently $20 gets you 330K. Crafting with mats from M+, raid or world content keeps it from being pay to win.

@williamcolgin1987

25 күн бұрын

@@SoulSoBreezy I think he's referring to crests.

Nice run down dude!

Thank you so much for these videos....🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

Appreciate this!

with Catchup and Concentration, i'll definitely be giving Crafting a go in TWW for Mogs as well as Gold.

Good info, thanks.

Will you be making a tier list for the professions? You videos on professions are very useful for people like me who have never really used them and especially since they got a massive overhaul and got more complicated. Thanks a lot.

@SoulSoBreezy

23 күн бұрын

No, those don't age well

It was really frustrating that even after maxing the ENTIRE tree with points left over and still couldn't make max level enchants reliably.

The refinement mechanic provides the floor price of the higher quality items, the drop rate of of the higher quality gathering materials probably needs to max out at the refinement ratio. i.e. rank1 drops at least x times more often than rank2, where x is the # of rank1 needed to refine into rank2.

@timj11dude

24 күн бұрын

Nevermind I think you said this. XD

Awesome guide mate now i don't have to focus on making similar content.

you mentioned ilustrious insight but my confusion stems from isn't concentration just illustrious insight replacement. Limited in how one can procure it and able to make it possible to craft at max guaranteed, depending on skill and such other factors of course. In short why the change, what's the advantage of the change and di we just add a complication we didn't need to professions. as always thanks for the videos. 🤩

good stuff

this time Im just going to save my KPs for a while until its clear on where to put them. I use profs 99% for just crafting end game gear for myself and some guildies and then pots and phials. The worst part of these profs is trying to figure out where to spend the points in the most efficient way.

@7PlayingWithFire7

25 күн бұрын

I crippled my first crafter by investing enchanting points into pointless trees

@williamcolgin1987

22 күн бұрын

Can't hurt to wait a little while. Having said that, there should be plenty of videos with some clear cut talent paths by the time of launch(Many are up already). You can also use the profession tree calculator to plan your talent pathway in advance. I've already picked paths for all of my professions and tested them out on the beta.

@williamcolgin1987

22 күн бұрын

@@7PlayingWithFire7 Same, but fortunately they added crests for enchanters and that made me more gold than anything else I did with enchanting.

Yeah, my ignore lists on all my characters are full because of Crafting Order scammers / scummers.

@DanielTorres-lb6hs

24 күн бұрын

feel you, am so tired to see all those idiots sending orders for 1g

I was so happy that they actually made professions relevant during DragonFlight. Glad they are keeping it similar in the War Within. Great video and thanks.

Ingenuity* is like how alchemists used to be able to spec into transmutation for a chance to proc a free second item from the transmute.

Hi do you have any insight on which professions you think will earn the most gold early on at the start of the expansion ?

I think I need some super Basic basic profession videos as even this didn't help me as much as I'd hoped. I loved professions in the past but need more help to get back into it now.

@SoulSoBreezy

23 күн бұрын

With cheap materials, I say play around with a few of the dragonflight professions to get an idea of the very basic concepts like the stats and what maniuplates your skills and ultimately, the quality of your crafts. Wowhead also has a profession talent tool so you can click buttons and give yourself information to soak in. Dragonflights professions with the focus on Inspiration (luck) quickly gets confusing as it takes what you learn and throws it out the window at least for a time. TWW is much more clear to understand but yeah, sorry that this wasn't meant to be a beginner's guide.

dude, i hoped that you do profession guides like you did at the beginning of DF. Thanks for your vids, for me they are the best in this kind of content.

My first Warband tab is going to be named "Bush Administration"

I just use professions to make toys and knickknacks possibly even mounts. But other than that engineering the armor crafting weapon crafting or enchants whatever don’t really affect the player at all endgame. Professions are more designed and geared towards fresh start characters new to the continents. Explosives from engineers aren’t even that great, it’s like 2% damage to any mob. Cooking is absolutely useless because all our characters are capable of healing themselves in someway via another fight or simply a cast. I’d like to see a rescale of the professions effectiveness so that using them will be more worthwhile

@SoulSoBreezy

24 күн бұрын

I found crafting to be absolutely needed for certain players who do endgame and want enchants for gear, buffs from food, gear when it's not dropping. But I agree there's a level of player who won't see the value of profession items beyond cosmetic appearances.

Why can't we respec knowledge points in our crafting specializations? I got burned hard by this in Dragonflight when I made the mistake of putting points into a little tree that required me to clear a dungeon every time I wanted to craft using it. Blizzard needs to do better. Thumbs up for great videos.

@SoulSoBreezy

24 күн бұрын

I know I'd use it to my advantage, and the takeaway isn't that they should allow respecs, but that they shouldn't do that whole dungeon thing

@ShadowsOfThePast

24 күн бұрын

They can't allow for 0 punishment respeccing because that would be exploited. They could introduce it if it would set one back on the profession progress a reasonable amount..

Do bonuses to secondary stats from one profession (like the 12 hour engineering inventing bonus, or blacksmith everburning forge) carry over from one profession to another?

Hmm now we need to figure out how to price concentration

If anyone complains about crafting in WOW being too complicated, I want to point them to Star Wars Galaxies. It was always a love-hate relationship with a wide range of material qualities, option parts, and even factories if you had the means. 😊 Also, one huge complaint about Dragonflight is that SO much was locked behind the rep. How easy/hard is it to gain recipes in TWW?

I totally thought that shirt said ‘Death Wine’

2 questions: 1. any negatives to making my main the gatherer since hes out in world the most and make alts the crafters? 2. can alts get to the point where they start working on their crafting pretty fast or is it gated by a bunch of story?

Any idea how current profession items with Inspiration on them will be translated to the new system? Will they auto change or just have the dead stat on them? In regards to rank 3 materials scarcity, I also immediately thought about bot gatherers benefiting since they will simply have more gatherers to play the odds. The NPC orders will greatly benefit the small population realms. Trust me, crafting was very different in the backwater realms as compared to the likes Area52, Illidan, Zul'jin, or Stormrage. So rare to see orders at all.

@SoulSoBreezy

23 күн бұрын

Dragonflight gear will include: 30 stat 30 stat +8 Dragon Isles crafting TWW gear will include: 60 stat 60 stat +8 TWW crafting

Nice video, thanks for the info. (I'll just add an opinion, gatherers are going to be hosed, so I don't share your optimism about gathering profs).

Will the changes with regards to NPC crafting orders, be applied to Dragonflight professions?

@SoulSoBreezy

24 күн бұрын

No

So for a new toon, is there any reason not to take two gatherings professions to level and then switch to something like Tailoring and Enchanting after you’re max level?

Heya, is there any benefit to at all to mastering DF skills now that your going to use? like gathering, I'm currently Alch and enchant but will swap to Mining and herb in WW. I have never seen it confirmed but I assume a new expansion treats it like your a newb miner for example regardless of previous experience

@SoulSoBreezy

19 күн бұрын

No benefit

@joshstephen895

19 күн бұрын

@@SoulSoBreezy hero cheers

Thanks Soul. I dropped out of Dragonflight because of the BS crafting system. As a solo player it was a nightmare with the reliance on player orders for advancement.

I tried to work on some proffesions in DF, but never got good enough to make any usable recipe at 5 star, so all I did was make trash and waste gold, so I had to buy some tokens for gold. I understand we can't all just craft mythics epics, but it was annoying just crafting trash. Looks like there is NPC's accepting trash crafts, so that's nice.

20:22, issues here is if the payout covers the VALUE of the mats, right now NONE of the prof weekly reward gold while asking for VENDOR ONLY mats that can cost 200 gold with zero reimbursement. ex glass lenses that cost 50 gold & a quests that takes 4 of them, 200 gold lost for nothing but TWO proff points. Never did quests like that.

@SoulSoBreezy

25 күн бұрын

Correct, so don't do them. Wait till more attractive quests come in, and rely on the catchups to ensure that you're never that far "behind"

15:45 Exactly what folks with a guild bank have been doing & with moble access since #BFA

A bit specific question- cross realm guild crafting is being allowed, but what about crafting orders within our warband? Can my main on realm A get a crafting order from my alt on realm B?

@SoulSoBreezy

24 күн бұрын

No

What headgear is that in the thumbnail?

@SoulSoBreezy

24 күн бұрын

Engineering crafting helmet

A question about professions: Crafting orders are still limited to the same realm, or have they freed the system so we can ask a crafter from another realm?

@maba6125

25 күн бұрын

You can do cross server guild orders

@elcanaldelargan8575

24 күн бұрын

@@maba6125 Thanks!

Rank 3 mats won't be too hard for gathering, thanks to regional AH they'll still be fairly plentiful after a few weeks. Early on I'm sure it'll have an impact but that won't last for long, not with the degen farmers/potential bot farmers that we see.

@SoulSoBreezy

24 күн бұрын

I'm skeptical, mostly because there's no more of that "use r2 and hope for a proc" happening. I mean it will happen but it'll come at a massive concentration cost so it'll be seldom done

So you still can't send Public Work orders with Rank 5 now that they can be guaranteed without Concentration? Can you at least send Personal ones that are Rank 5?

@SoulSoBreezy

25 күн бұрын

Yes

Are enchants still going to be a huge pain to get at max rank?

@SoulSoBreezy

24 күн бұрын

I don't have a good answer to that since enchanting mats are a different sort of gathering compared to the primary gathering professions

My biggest worry is not being able to 'prove' how much concentration is needed to craft something. If you're a client, you're really trusting the crafter when they ask for X gold because it requires Y concentration. How do they verify that?

@SoulSoBreezy

24 күн бұрын

Counterpoint - why should the client care? They don't have to listen to the crafter's sob story of why they're sooo low on concentration and they're offering them a deal. If the price isn't ideal, move on

Is there a calculator for professions yet ? It is so annoying I cant see at what rank I can make X item without having all the mats for that item in my bags.

@SoulSoBreezy

9 күн бұрын

No knowledge if someone is working on that. Even the values are still changing in recent beta builds and I wouldn't wish it on any reasonable person to keep up with that.

Charging arm and leg😂😂

Any crafters here that can help me out? In dragonflight i felt like gaining artisans metle was kinda hard if you didn't have a gathering profession. I haven't played in a while but i remember thats how i felt about it. Is this a thing or can i go ahead and make a character with for example blacksmithing and engineering and a character with mining and herbalism. My problem was that i had loads of metle on my gatherer and basicly none on my crafter. thanks in advance!

@ShadowsOfThePast

24 күн бұрын

You got 150 mettle free from the npc in Valdrakken weekly. Also some from the weekly rng drops from certain mobs for the knowledge points and ofc first crafts etc that gave knowledge points.

@tftg458

24 күн бұрын

@@ShadowsOfThePast lol I didn't even know that! Thanks!

@ShadowsOfThePast

24 күн бұрын

@@tftg458 Np. I hope it's gonna be better/easier in TWW to keep professions caught up but to be on a safe side I tend to avoid double crafting on most of my alts 😬 Will have to see how it feels on my main first (alch/herb)

@SoulSoBreezy

24 күн бұрын

I'm a dual crafter. the 150 mettle allowance was already mentioned for DF so there's that. In TWW Patron Crafting orders will be the primary source of acuity, I described them as a regular flow of profession weekly quests. One upside (?) is that as a dual crafter I'll see twice as many crafting orders. Drawback is that since most of those orders ask for materials at the moment, those're more resources I'll have to provide.

I loved the new profession system at first but as time went on, u see how convoluted it actually is, it actually sucks how needlessly complex it is now, i just gave up on it, it's too bad, it seemed like it was gonna be cool. Now all my characters just got tons of mats and im just gonna end up vendoring them

@ShadowsOfThePast

24 күн бұрын

It is kind of a nightmare if you liked having all professions on your alts. It gets quite a heavy time investment to keep them all up to date.. and if you only have limited time to play then it sucks...

Hope Blizzard won't repeat Elemental Lariat

👍👍

15:20 mista asia man, are ya sure about these numbahs? in recent screenshots i saw sums like 25.000 gold -- which is neither of those numbers on the screen :s ... i'd love ur numbers more :D

Im a hoarder in game. But irl im a minimalist. Is that weird?

I think theres too many things to use the one crafting currency on.

Public work orders without result rank requirement keeps them effectively useless unless you are ordering an item with no rank or are only providing the mats for the lowest rank anyway. The removal of the luck mechanic removed all gotchas to a public order system with a rank requirement as there is no longer the possibility of a crafter who can't craft that rank having a luck based chance to get it in trade based craft attempts. It's truly mindboggling that they chose not to add it.

@SoulSoBreezy

2 күн бұрын

I sorta agree, but one of the main goals of this crafting system was to get people talking to each other again

@gaspara9817

2 күн бұрын

@@SoulSoBreezy I've heard that and I'm fine with it, but if that is the case they should have just not included public work orders at all.

@SoulSoBreezy

2 күн бұрын

imo there's a few perfectly functional uses for public work orders: - Pre DF Legacy items (Naxx) - DF Legacy items (transmog) - people with low quality materials who'll recraft later Reason we don't see much of that third bullet point is all thanks to inspiration letting us make high quality goods with cheap materials and brute force RNG. I can easily be in the wrong here, but I predict the cost of materials and reagents are going to price people out and have them "settle" for lower quality crafts early on.

Kinda minimal error, but 77 skill missing was wrongcin chapter 1, it was 67

question: are we still slaves to the crafting table aka cant make anything of use with a damn table

@SoulSoBreezy

25 күн бұрын

With some exceptions, yes

@maba6125

25 күн бұрын

Yes but engineers have a table they can make where they can set to the table to any profession they want so there is some freedom, though it's also somewhat limited.

I came back and tried to do crafting and I'm so confused, and not sure if I will level them. I may just gather and sell on auction house, or get items I need for my gear. because to me its very confusing and I don't have a ton of time to play. To me, it doesn't seem like it's worth my time investment anymore. I never really did much with it other than helping guild members or making something for myself. But this is to me like final fantasy online way to complicated for me to even deal with when I can just put an order in and have somone else make it.

@UltimateGamerCC

25 күн бұрын

sorry that you feel that way, but Blizz is adamant that if Crafting is to continue being worthwhile, then it has to have complexity.

@7PlayingWithFire7

25 күн бұрын

That's the point honestly. I love this system, and I'm happy to let you pay me to understand it for you

@shadowweaver1599

25 күн бұрын

@@UltimateGamerCC to me if you are going to make it more complicated a tutorial would be alot more helpful. I don't mind as much getting the items but not understanding how the mechanics work is just dumb to me I liked the way it used to be but I Don't see that changing.

Tbh since they changed the crafting system….I stopped crafting. It’s too confusing and takes up a lot more inventory.

I’ve sadly had no interest in professions ever since WoD

Dragonflight crafting got the Diablo 4 treatment. to many stats to keep track on and useless ones that can be combined. I mean inspiration, deftness, resourcefulness enguninety, skill and whatever more, it's to much and ppl don't even know what half of it means (at least I am confused by it all) shrink it down and give a more clear explanation of what does what would be good.

@SoulSoBreezy

21 күн бұрын

That's why I'm here to help if you're willing to learn

Crafting, crafting, crafting... what about gathering? Blizz needs to remove that stupid "Personal Loot" for herbs and ores!

Gathering will never be viable as long as bots and multi boxers can strip mine a region. Literally just add a skill check mechanic that nets more supplies but requires a spontaneous action to interact with the node.

@SoulSoBreezy

11 күн бұрын

and then they figure out how to have bots do it and we're back here again

Yeah, refining not being viable was weird a f.. Refining should ALWAYS be profitable, or else there's no point to the refining specialization.

The added complexity in DF and TWW is a boon to anyone who enjoys professions as more than just a means to an end.

Dragonflight completely ruined professions for me. I do applaud removal of the mess that was inspiration though. The biggest problem to me is that WoW crafting fails to support/promote a tired crafting economy. It feels like there’s a very small number of crafters doing everything and outside of that no one needs crafters. There should be a sustained need for crafters at all levels to make resources and items. A maxed crafter should want help from other crafters to make some of the easier materials so that they don’t need to waste time/limited resources on them. I hope TWW and concentration helps with this. Still feel like professions shouldn’t be so expansion-based.

Interesting but depressing. Great presentation of material. Blizz began over-complicating professions in Dragonflight and apparently intends to continue, that's depressing. As a more solo player who plays for fun, this portends much work/study and a low yield enterprise. Ugh.

Why craft when we can just buy our gold

@UltimateGamerCC

25 күн бұрын

sorry, i dont speak Whale...

@ShadowsOfThePast

24 күн бұрын

'Why play the game when you can just pay for a boost..or pay someone to play the game for you..". *sigh* some people..

everything here will be pointless if were still being SLAVES to SPARKS to make epics, nothing about that.

@SoulSoBreezy

25 күн бұрын

Without sparks costs would tank and other sources of gear progression would be severely compromised

@UltimateGamerCC

25 күн бұрын

very VERY L take, at the start of the expansion the Blues are gonna be important and therefore will make a ton of Gold.

@maba6125

25 күн бұрын

​@@UltimateGamerCCI agree! And they make great catch up gear each season for someone with alts or just joining again since the lowest tier enchanted crest make them a much higher ilvl. I plan to make sure each of my characters has a full set of blue gear at the beginning so I don't need to worry about what pieces I can recraft or need to make fully.

@UltimateGamerCC

25 күн бұрын

@@maba6125 exactly, and we have no idea how easy it is to acquire Warbound gear, so alts will probably still need Blues in TWW.

Not to be a negative nanny here but this looks verrrrry close to a copy/paste from DF. Not so much in the function, which seems to have been streamlined a tad, but in quality and variety of crafted goods. Same old same old.

Maybe im just a casual andy non profession player buttttt shit shit seeems WAY to complicated...

@SoulSoBreezy

23 күн бұрын

Which is why I'm making guides, answering questions etc. All I need from you is a willingness to learn

@Seegurken

12 күн бұрын

Seems complicated but very interesting. If you watch this Video, it doesnt seem that complcated

I used to like professions.. but what they did with it in DF.. its just total disaster, terrible. I stopped playing the game.

I already have a job. I don't need one in a fucking video game

@SoulSoBreezy

25 күн бұрын

...right!

@UltimateGamerCC

25 күн бұрын

then go do your job, Blizz says effort = reward, so if Crafting is to not suck, then it has to be like this. no amount of blubbering is gonna change their minds.

@7PlayingWithFire7

25 күн бұрын

With that logic might as well stick to movies and tv shows, without any meaningful plot. Like children's cartoons. I enjoy complexity and depth, that's not a job, that's just fun. Why have puzzles? Why talent trees? Why even have more than 2 buttons, just attack and defend? Why have classes, raids, dungeons, etc? Your logic literally is just that, and you know that it's a nonsense point.

@UltimateGamerCC

25 күн бұрын

@@7PlayingWithFire7 old man complaining because he dont like change, that's the vibe i get from the original poster.

Caps....energy.... So professions are mobile games now

@williamcolgin1987

25 күн бұрын

🤔 😂 lol fair comparison. Insight and mettle were already a time gated resource.

@YumYum820

25 күн бұрын

@@williamcolgin1987 a frustrating one at that. Old professions had you just do your grind, get materials and level. This is just another time gated aspect in a game full of gated content. I understand some aspects must be gated like raids but not every single damn thing.

@UltimateGamerCC

25 күн бұрын

"neckbeard cant neckbeard, WAHHH!"

@YumYum820

25 күн бұрын

@@UltimateGamerCC far from it, I have a career I play around...so if I have a block of time where I can dump into lvling, professions, dungeons or raids I wanna do it with little to no limits. I'm not one to make time for WoW due to FOMO so if they won't let me play how I like then I don't play, and there's plenty of 40+ year Olds like myself in the same situation.

@UltimateGamerCC

25 күн бұрын

@@YumYum820 ok, but the catchup would keep you kept up with everyone else, unless you're limited to 2 hours a week, you'll manage just fine on Profs. as for limits here's a news flash, endgame is fulla limitations, can only do a Raid once every 7 days, Heroic Dungeons are once a day, at least until TWW that is. Mythic Dungeons are once per week unless you're doing other peoples' Keys and then with Delves you're limited on Treasure Keys.