Never will understand how Maggie could even face Negan after what he did. Going back and rewatching Glenns death put that into perspective, it’s unforgivable

@Devin_Smile

4 ай бұрын

Their minds are completely twisted from the apocalypes. What they deem forgivable is probably way off from reality. Plus they're forced to be around eachother. I think it's good "humans gonna human" writing.

@dajourphil0soph3r36

4 ай бұрын

I think it’s a lot different when you live in a world where you realize everyone has it unfair. You then realize that even if the cards you had been dealt in life were unfair- the fact that you made it this far has to mean something, especially if the person who is responsible for causing you so much pain in your life apologizes.

@StephenTravers-vu2vj

2 ай бұрын

Nothing is unforgivable. It's in the Bible everything is forgivable.

@dajourphil0soph3r36

2 ай бұрын

@StephenTravers-vu2vj Everything except 1 thing…

@tomfox9083

2 ай бұрын

She has to much Helen in her

I might hate Negan, but you can hear the sincerity in his voice

@lilpetejr

28 күн бұрын

you have no taste in characters if you hate negan

@Novax4053

24 күн бұрын

@@lilpetejrFr he is in top 5 he may have Been a dick but he was a good villian with good character development

@thatstheway2429

23 күн бұрын

@@lilpetejrhe’s great as a character, but he’s still committed atrocities. Glen was beautiful, as Maggie said. He may have been the most pure character in the entire walking dead universe.

@lilpetejr

23 күн бұрын

@@thatstheway2429 who cares he was weak and would’ve eventually met his fate with his weak ass

@kalvin187douglas

19 күн бұрын

Truth

The way that moral ambiguity is portrayed in this show - just exquisite. No one is all good or all bad. Some are worse than others. Everyone has done bad things to survive. I am reminded of Rick's line, way back in Season 5: "just because we're good people doesn't mean we won't kill you." In my experience, no other piece of fiction honors human complexity like TWD does.

@Gcoastone

Ай бұрын

Very well said, I completely agree

@HiramsThoughts7

13 күн бұрын

Yea i think that was actually what the shows about the zombies are obviously the main thing i guess but its more about humanities struggle to exist after them

Negan is like a weirdo crazy cruel Dad for everybody in this series. I love him.

she literally followed him and asked him to leave her alone💀

@paddington1670

9 ай бұрын

because she wanted to do that mission, and there he was, trying to do the same thing albeit with good intention

@danieldickson8591

8 ай бұрын

It wasn't that she wanted him to physically leave her alone, although she probably wanted that too. She wanted him to stop involving himself in her life. Reminding her of what he took from her.

@aminamukusheva

8 ай бұрын

@@danieldickson8591 still followed him

@rosysulla

8 ай бұрын

For the rifle

@MZillionYT

5 ай бұрын

​@@aminamukushevaFor the rifle mate. Not because of him directly

I still don't understand how she was just cool with him after that. I'd hold a grudge for the rest of my life

@masterexploder213

9 ай бұрын

Forgive but never forget. Holding on to a grudge is bad for you. It'll always weigh on you.

@Trippy_Times

9 ай бұрын

she never forgave him, she even said it in this episode lol

@4Syorha

9 ай бұрын

But she will soon understand and potentially forgive.

@paddington1670

9 ай бұрын

she still hasnt

@kayden2119

9 ай бұрын

you have no idea what you are talking about lmao

Such a genuine NEgan moment 🙏

Maggie thing about a few seasons before: if I could do it again I’d kill every last one of you.

@IsabelleAmelia

Жыл бұрын

Ikr like is he even being genuine

@DMU1503

11 ай бұрын

​@@IsabelleAmelia That was before meeting Annie.

@yosefpoysun3534

11 ай бұрын

Well duh. He couldn't let them go, he couldn't kill one of them, and he wouldn't have let them kill his own people; the only solution to have the most people alive at that point would be killing all of them. That was an honest moment from Negan.

@LazyLizzy706

11 ай бұрын

He said because Rick’s people would’ve killed his people. He was trying persuade Maggie to kill all the Reapers.

@mappingshaman5280

7 ай бұрын

Because negan only killed Abraham and Glenn, all of his people that he was responsible for died. That includes Laura whom he was with since the start and helped him when he was trying to save his wife (yeah I know beta killed her but he wouldn't have if negan was still in charge and could have protected her).

Negan truly regrets everything bad he did.

This right here is the Negan he was before became the Negan that lead The Saviors.

This brings tears to my eyes. The sincerity is real.

I’ve never seen enough to know the lead up to this but I’m almost in tears

@LauraIvel

9 ай бұрын

Watch from Season 7 on and you'll see why this moment was so important

@Someguythatlikespizza

8 ай бұрын

​​@@LauraIvelain't nobody got time for that shit man. Just watch S7 episode where Negan kills Abraham and Glenn and then the Negan backstory episode and then watch this clip.

Negan still doesn’t understand that’s cruel beating someone to death and laughing at them while they’re dying it’s memorizing

he should've said "I finally understood what glenn must've felt"

If he teared up it would've been duper genuine

@AstroBimpson

9 ай бұрын

He did tear up. Do you mean if he cried?

@Scurvybubble242

9 ай бұрын

@@AstroBimpson a bit more tearing

What doesn't make sense is that this was a possible loss, but I guess he never had a child, and a family. His first girlfriend/wife...I don't know, she killed her self. I feel like he went down a path of denial and could have brought that up to. I suppose it didn't matter now.

@FenrirWolfganger

9 ай бұрын

You didn't watch the last series (11). I'd recommend it, it's a fitting close to the show.

@jacobkotschi7372

9 ай бұрын

@@FenrirWolfganger I did, I meant, he never had a family before that moment he thought he could lose them, he has experienced loss was all I was saying, it could have added to the ambience of this moment of empathy

@FenrirWolfganger

9 ай бұрын

@@jacobkotschi7372 Fair enough.

@pyxl666

7 ай бұрын

He did experience loss but instead of actually feeling it he numbed himself to everything but anger.

Everyone on this realm was forced to become a murderer! They all did horrible things. Negan just did what they probably would’ve done to other enemies. Nobody had it fair in this show😳

Good to see Negan finally apologise and feel truly guilty for what he did, but I don’t really understand how it took him that long to see the errors of his ways.

@logandodge7221

3 ай бұрын

I don’t think it’s that he took that long to realize what he did was wrong, rather the gravity of what he did. He previously told Maggie that if he could do it over again he woulda killed them all if it meant the sanctuary didn’t get annihilated. He had a responsibility as their leader and he failed them all. He spent a decent amount of time trying to make amends for his actions, and he was successful with many other people, but Maggie was always his blind spot. He didn’t truly, fully realize what he took from Maggie until he had it nearly happen to himself.

Takes a real man to know when he did wrong

"apology not accepted!" she says after she shoots him between the eyes, fade to black- end of series... that would have been cool.

@4Syorha

7 ай бұрын

But what about the conclusion to the commonwealth and whatever happens afterwards? There had to be come closure.

The end of the show was kind of a mess, but they did a good job of building up to this moment and delivering when it arrived. Probably the two strongest actors they had remaining in the cast and both really brought it in this scene and their later conversation.

I think everyone forgets how many of Negan's men Maggie and Glenn killed before the war. Not saying Negan was right but it's important to remember that.

@ultron-5600

7 ай бұрын

Megan’s group struck first. They were going to kill Daryl and Abraham and Sasha.

@christopherkimber7679

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, I’ve thought that before, but the fact is that had Daryl not blown up the first group, they would’ve killed Abraham and Sasha. Then they sent that guy back to Hilltop to take what’s his names head, and the group found out they were taking half of everything. So Rick and company were absolutely right to make a preemptive strike to Negans cohort. Plus, idk how, but it seemed as though EVERY person in negans group was just the worst kind of person. At least Rick and his people cared and tried to work with others. Sorry, but Negan never had a leg to stand on. They were a terrible group of people doing unspeakable things to people that didn’t deserve it. They preyed on the weak and got their asses handed to them. 😂 But Negans character arc is incredible. I love that he got here. Great ending to a great show.

@4Syorha

7 ай бұрын

But Negan was right as much as Rick was. Sure they may have attacked first, but their motive was to 'save' ppl even if it meant being coerced into a dictatorship. The Hilltop dudes name is Gregory btw.

@andrewbaxter4602

6 ай бұрын

This is true, but Negan's group and Rick's were just not equal morally.

@Diabl0Mask

5 ай бұрын

@@ultron-5600 That is totally not true, Rick actually struck first and killed many of Negan's men by stabbing them in their sleep for no reason, his logic was these guys look dangerous so might as well, if anything Negan went easy on them by only killing Abraham, and then they provoked him so he had to kill Glenn, and even then Rick provoked him further but Negan didn't kill anyone that time.

W Negan.

Negan wasnt a bad guy he was just broken...

@danieldickson8591

8 ай бұрын

He was broken, but he embraced that. He chose to be who he was, to be a very bad guy, and that's evil. He simply got to the point where he made a different choice, and to stop being evil.

@spenser9908

7 ай бұрын

He was a monster.

@007spudmanSpudsArmy

7 ай бұрын

@@spenser9908 "Was"

@4Syorha

7 ай бұрын

I wouldnt say he wanted to be bad and evil, fate just made him choose that path. Ultimately he decided to use it for good this time.

@hoani3264

4 ай бұрын

Broken but humiliated people when they die? He felt good killing to

God damn how long has it been for all those lines to be showing up. Rick is 40 but his chin doesn't stretch down his damn Adams apple. I'm just saying that I remember the first time he appeared, and his beard was still grayish, but something here had to do with really good prosthetic mapping or really tough living.

Nothing can change my hate to negan. But I love Jeffrey Morgan for other roles and waiting for him in the boys

@jaimeherber8353

26 күн бұрын

He's even dope AF in that 👍💯🔥

Negan has always been one of my favorite characters. I even have a jacket and a real Lucille bat that i made myself

That apology was nowhere *near* good enough. When you take someone *that* important away from someone else, the word *probably* should be at the bottom of your lexicon.

There is EVIL people who fake emotions to hide their sins or excuse them BUT negan is genuinly sorry for what he did in this scene . 😊

how did they undo maggie in dead city

@dwnkaomwn3953

2 ай бұрын

What do you mean?

I accept your apology, but will never forgive you.

@dwnkaomwn3953

2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't have done neither.

I don’t think negan was wrong killing Glenn And Abraham Rick and his team killed a lot of his people and negan killed only two of them just to set an example and why would he feel any empathy towards Glenn he did not knew him for him he was just a Guy from Ricks gang He choose to kill I think negan Was write for what he did.

I seriously think the writers in this series were tripping on something half way through the season! If someone beat a loved on of mine with a baseball bat, taunted him with his skull crushed, bet your ass he would be gone a long time ago, where is the justice in this shit? Seriously lol

@Wes_Bradley-Taubner

7 ай бұрын

The Justice is having Negan live the rest of his life feeling more and more guilty about his actions as the show goes on. As he continues to spend the rest of his life seeing how good Glenn’s loved ones really are as people and seeing just how how much he took from them is his punishment that’s just gonna get worse and worse for the rest of his life. If he showed no remorse, then yeah he would’ve been killed as punishment. But because he does feel remorse for what he did, Maggie decided it would be a worse punishment to force him to live with that guilt for the rest of his life. If the writers had her forgive Negan, then that would be a problem cause then his punishment is softened.

@4Syorha

7 ай бұрын

Well justice has its flaws, Maggie understood Negan and hopefully in time forgive him even if she doesnt think so.

@christopherkimber7679

7 ай бұрын

I don’t see where they were “trippin”. You forget that Maggie did finally get to him at Alexandria when he was locked up? And she saw how broken keeping him locked up in solitary confinement was and she decided that RHAT was a better punishment that outright killing him. It wouldn’t have done her any good because she would’ve had to live the rest of her life with what happened and Negan would’ve never given her this sincere apology and grown the way he did. Instead she was satisfied with him rotting and he eventually had the best story arc in the show, saving Judith and Lydia, saving Hershel from the commonwealth troops, helping maggy (albeit very cautiously with a lot of bickering)get the supplies and food to bring back to hilltop to try to rebuild and save their people. I feel like killing a person outright doesn’t do any good. I’d rather a murderer spend his life behind bars having to deal with the consequences of their actions.

Dead City makes no sense 🤣

@FenrirWolfganger

9 ай бұрын

I hope since this comment you watched the whole series cause it's excellent and made perfect sense, but a month ago I'd have said the same thing.

@mappingshaman5280

7 ай бұрын

From Maggies perspective it certainly doesn't because in her final scene with negan though she doesn't forgive him she does say she doesn't want to hate him and does say that negan earned his place. But then in dead city she still shit talks him at every opportunity, and even says she'll let ginny into new hilltop but not negan. However negan's character remained fairly consistent between the show and dead city.

@FenrirWolfganger

7 ай бұрын

@@mappingshaman5280 imho the issue was that Maggie was steeling herself to betray Negan so she needed to hate him for that. It was only at the end Negan realised that and so then let himself be handed over.

Did everyone forget what he did lmao. It’s just bad writing let’s be real.

So......Negan is falling or in love with Maggie....and Maggie ....will hate him.....forever....dang

@dwnkaomwn3953

2 ай бұрын

Where did you get the idea for the former? Negan already has a wife with a kid on the way at this point.

What a stupid show.

@darthnater9731

Ай бұрын

What a stupid comment