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I love these Bible deep dives where you take a small verse or story. Miss more fairy tale videos like that too 🥺🥺

If you love me (you would) keep my commandments.

@jaceydurland9098

Жыл бұрын

It's all clear to me now. Perhaps Jonathan's best video yet.

@dwifred472

Жыл бұрын

One of the hardest verses i have had to deal with in my life. Also the one that goes like “why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord’, but do not obey my commands”. Obedience I know is necessary. But it seems like I never live up to God’s standard.

@mjack3521

11 ай бұрын

Love. Not the 10 commandments. Really 613 commandments.

@ByDesign333

11 ай бұрын

@dwifred472 And yet he says he has a "new commandment, that you love one another" He says many will " seek to enter in, and not be able." ...therefore says Jesus, " STRIVE to enter in..."

@mjack3521

11 ай бұрын

@@ByDesign333 Love

I memorized this verse as a kid in Sunday School. I’ve heard preaching about it all my life, but I’ve never heard it explained this way. I really like your explanation of it! God bless you and your ministry!

@s0j0rnh1ntrlnd5

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much whenever it comes to scripture alone. All to Hisglory.

@cmelora

10 ай бұрын

me too!

“Hopefully this is not too abstract…” Definitely abstract, but somehow it’s exactly what I needed in this part of my day; and even of my life….. Thank you, John.

"If you become a slave to the source of all reality then you will have fullness"- saving that one Jonathan. Thank you for this video, definitely was in need of this message,

The best way to explain the Word of the Lord is with His own Word

Always appreciate your 'Bible study' videos. Thank you, Jonathan.

Once you grasp the purpose, you aim to that, not to the instructions to get there. Love it!

This is so insightful. Sounds like you’re saying that legalism is a form of being “stuck at the level of particulars” and rules, accompanied by an inability to see or participate in the gestalt-the Whole which comes down from heaven. Participation in the Wholeness/gestalt from God is what faith is. Does that mean that legalism can be thought of as a stage of immaturity? The place where we all begin, learning the pieces and particulars-but for the ultimate purpose of that epiphany by which we transcend the parts? In that case, legalism is like piano practice: playing a whole sonata from memory is like faith. Does legalism which overstays its welcome, or outlasts its tutorial function, become parasitic and self-destructive?

@marcus8710

Жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I gleaned. Proper behavior for one's own level of maturity is what's prescribed. It looks different for each - but the outcomes, the fruits, reveal accuracy to blueprint. We ought to mature toward an unconscious, internalized, daily Being in the spirit of Christ. That's the move from slave to the discovered/ordained Way toward adopted child who fully belongs in the family and produces after the family's kind.

@j.g.4942

Жыл бұрын

If legalism is solely focussing on the law (the particulars) then it would overstay it's welcome (if it has one). Yet the law is always welcome, as it first teaches what is right and wrong, then reveals our faults and need, then acts as a guide. (in your piano analogy, the law would be the written music; one close to God might not need the music, yet if they have an off day the law keeps them on track, reveals any mistake, and guides in the playing). The law of God is always something to be aware of, but is not the focus of the Faith; God is. At least as a Lutheran that's how we see it, 'sola fide' and 'the three uses of the Law' (curb/civil, mirror/theological, guide)

@OrthobroAustin

Жыл бұрын

@@j.g.4942 ​ Everything in this thread sounds about right as a recap of Jonathan. But don’t get lost in the ornamentations and analogies of the teaching at the expense of what they highlight: the substance. If we accept and understand the substance of the law as the apostles teach it, then we can apply it newly to the symbolic reality we experience in the manners Jonathan discusses. Our teacher Paul knows that if one is under the covenant of Horeb, one receives the curses of the law, death, because of disobedience/sin. Therefore the wages of sin is death. And death through sin is present with gentiles and in the world, even while it is not taken into account with them because they did not receive the Law. But that same law that makes Israel accountable to sin and so causes death, is given to them/us to be righteousness and life if we walk in it. The law is holy and the commandment is holy and righteous. But the Law is spiritual, which was given to a people who are not spiritual, but in bondage to sin through the flesh of Adam. So though we wanted to obey the law (and so desire a good thing) we did not obey God’s law but received the penalty of sin. But if this is the manner we lived (as Paul says Rom. 7:14) we *willingly* agreed with The Spirit that his law is good. So Christ became the flesh of Israel to abolish in his body the law of commandments in ordinances by which we died, becoming a curse on our behalf although he walked in the law perfectly. So that by baptism into his death and resurrection we now receive a new, divine, nature, and so do by nature what is righteous according to the spirit of holiness and not the old letter. Wherefore what both James and Paul say of justification, faith, and works of the law, is true. For by James who says that works complete faith, we know that the works of the law of Christ is the faith and not distinct from what we have received by grace. And by Paul, we know that justification according to these works is not accomplished except with the willingness of faith like Abraham. So by faith we are justified in Jesus Christ, to do good works prepared for us by God. [This is like a Jewish teaching today, which maintains that the received letter of the Law that we begin with (the Torah of Assyia) is not the essence of righteousness, but God with his righteousness is hidden in it. So that the Law hidden in the Letter (not the letter itself) is the actual, literal, law (peshat) by which is righteousness and life.] The peaceful harmony from God that we feel from music, exists in God, but by his workmanship is present in the written notes of music which intend that sound. But it’s only by playing the music right, with or without the music in front of you, that the harmony is achieved.

@j.g.4942

Жыл бұрын

@@OrthobroAustin very well said, a few quibbles with wording but the substance is the same. From a right relationship with God in Jesus flows perfect love, the fulfillment of the law.

@W-G

9 ай бұрын

Nice summary

So good. Thank you. St. Paul says elsewhere: "So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith." (Galatians 3:24) When we are enslaved by sin, the law is good and beautiful and true, leading us in baby steps. But only until a life of love, of God and of neighbor, becomes "second nature"-our new nature-and all the rules become crude approximations at best, a two-dimensional shadow of the three-dimensional, full-color reality.

Have never run across this video even though I watch this channel a lot, it popped up at the top of my feed and I can’t help but think the Holy Spirit may be prodding me lmao I’m newly beginning my walk with God and this was extremely insightful and helpful. Thank you Jonathan.

I get what you're saying about rules. I noticed, in cooking, that for a long time I would use the food scale to measure weight of foods. But, after awhile of doing it, I could approximate it and get it right. It goes, too, with the spices and aromatics that are added to the food. Once you gain experience from cooking, you can almost taste the flavor of the food just from reading the recipe.

Thank you for speaking on this verse!

This is just absolutely brilliantly put. You truly have the gift of clarity of mind and expression Jonathan. God Bless you

Thank you, Jonathan, these are wise words. We all need to understand this simple truth.

big one for basketball fans here, thanks J

Cooking was such a deep metaphor, awesome job man.

Thank you Jonathan! I think one of the greatest insights you have offered is the notion that we are all slaves to an ideal whether we want to be or not. Thank you. May as well submit to the highest and Truest! God Bless you sir.

Beautiful. Love this idea and its working for me!

Thank you for sharing your insight. It was very helpful to me.

Most EXCELLENT Bible verse!!! Really on the mark for me now. You are the Holy Spirits messenger of Grace and Faith! I needed to hear your explanation.

Thank you so much. It was a very helpful explanation. 🙏🌟

Beautiful wisdom 🔥🔥🔥

Synchronize! I've recognized that to be free from the slavery of my desires, I have to focus all the disparate elements of myself into one point, dedicating all of my attention and focus into a singular goal. I literally say "Synchronize" out loud when I catch myself feeling distracted and tempted by my blind passions. I have to remind myself of what it is I'm trying to do and atone, bring my seperate drives into harmony. It works too!

So well explained. The problem with the law isn't that the standard is too high, but that it actually doesn't look high enough!

I’m a Lutheran church music student, and I think I have two metaphors in music to describe what Jonathan is talking about. Please let me know what you think. It seems that life under the Law is like a beginner musician playing from a score with extremely detailed articulation and expression markings written by a professional, dictating how every note is to be played. On the other side of the coin, life under grace or life in Christ is if that same musician reads from the same music, but without the articulation and expression markings, and is able to play as a professional musician would, using correct articulation and expression throughout. The lack of markings gives some degree of freedom to a professional musician, but the markings that were written in the novice’s part are what the professional would naturally play because the professional has integrated what makes music beautiful and playing in a beautiful manner is second nature. Alternatively, life under the Law is like a music theory student doing exercises for their class, learning and following all the various specific rules which create beautiful music. On the contrary, life under grace or in Christ is like a composer writing new music. Composition gives some degree of freedom, but the composer will likely use many of the rules of music theory because they work and sound good. The rules have become second nature to the composer, and the higher aim of creating beautiful music is at the forefront. Even when some rules are broken by the composer, they are broken for the purpose of that higher aim (this parallels when Jesus’s disciples are the heads of grain on the Sabbath, or when the priest gave David and his men the bread of the presence. Both were unlawful, but they served a higher purpose).

@heartmind4267

2 ай бұрын

Dont mix up the jewish ritual law with Christs commandments. With Christs commandments we imitate Christ himself

This is why I love the verse about God writing the law in our hearts.

Very clarifying

Paul is talking about the "Spirit of the law" that gives life, vs the "letter of the law" that kills . In other words....it's not "WHAT" you do.....but "WHY" you do it that matters most . God is Spirit ( John 4:24 ) and all that God sees is your "spirit", or your "heart" , your "WILL" of mind .

Thank you so much for this. I’ll re-listen many times.

I understand this verse as the need to transcend the concrete into the abstract, to transcend the material into the spiritual. Our failings as modern man to do so makes us slaves of acedia. We have lost the ability to pay close attention through an abundance of materialism. I think the example of basketball you gave illustrates that very well. I hope we somehow manage to rediscover god before we pay the wage of death. Thanks for the video.

Jonathan, this really excites me and encourages me to align myself with the highest.

Great point relating one's craft to the higher ideal. Rules always have context. +

One of the most confounded and important videos on this channel!

Thank you

Thank you brother Jonathan Pageau for your works 🙏

Thanks for the video Jonathan. My husband and I started a gymnastics gym a few months ago and we have been trying to figure out exactly what our guiding principle was. Grace! We teach grace. Physically and metaphysically through our relationships with the kids. Thank you for articulating this. Don't stop!

Thank you, Mr. Jonathan. It's soo interesting and thought provoking, especially about the parasitic process developing into that ‘reciprocal narrowing’, leading to self-devouring, fragmentation, and eventually, death. Are there longer discussions on, explanations of, these same things, on this channel or elsewhere? I’d greatly appreciate any hint.

@joanasaad915

Жыл бұрын

I second this.I’d like more information about this subject.

My best friend is Protestant and she sees everything I do as being like mosaic law (any sacrament or ritual). Every time we talk she uses scriptures like these to say I don’t need to do anything bc I believe in good works. I really liked your explanation.

Excellent as always. I personally feel a sense of familiarity with the things you say, i have thought of fragments of them, but you uniquely bring them together into an insight about faith.

Thanks

Absolutely Genius

I will have to listen again. That didn't sink in

The more I study the sacramental streams in Christianity (Orthodoxy and Catholicism), the more I see they have in common with the Protestant streams than we admit. In this video, you echoed a lot of what I just preached in a sermon two weeks ago.

The thumbnail is perfect

Your best video yet Jonathan!

Really good video. This is how I see the world now and what you are saying is so true.

Thx for the light on these verses! I read it few weeks ago and I must admit that I scratched my haed over it 😅

Thank you for the video

Yo thanks

So helpful. More of these please 😁

Christ's "new commandment of love"...to keep that you must abide in Christ, who "is love". Mere religion produces mechanical works which are dead works. True religion is about charity done cheerfully from the heart.

Yes, I get all that, but how do I practice the good when struggling with addiction? How do I change my loyalty from sin to Christ?

@deussacracommunioest2108

Жыл бұрын

Multiply small practices in the right direction, and fight the urge from the sin in you to mock them. Also practice gratefulness in every little step for you are indeed doing something eternal, which is immeasurable, as you shape your soul to goodness.

@Kirigakurejones

Жыл бұрын

Speaking as an Orthodox: Loyalty is Faithfulness, or carrying out the commands of Christ. It’s a process and not at all an easy one! Participation in the Mysteries, ie the Eucharist, Confession, Unction and others gradually over time make the task of carrying out Christ’s commandments easier. Allegiance is more than what we think, it’s also what we do, day after day. Hope this helps! IC XC NIKA

@emilianoestevarena5071

Жыл бұрын

Good isn't something you do, but something you are allowed to do. Here's why work matters. Whatever work you do, it'll make you a stronger branch of the vine, and in time, you get pruned in your proper shape and grace flows from you. At your stage, aspire for those little moments of grace, and nourish them. Let them enter into the center of your heart, and place hope as the non-extinguishing ember in your heart. Also, think about this prayer: "O, Heavenly King, Comforter, Spirit of Truth, Thou art in all places and fillest all things, Treasury of Infinite Goods, Giver of Life, come and abide in us, heal our infirmities, and save our lives, oh, Good One".

@HeartForChrist777

Жыл бұрын

Get the Word of God in your life. Blessings to you brother

@barrycrist2489

Жыл бұрын

All vices have a more powerful virtue that can oppose and supplant the unhealthy vice. For example, lust can be overcome with chastity. As a practical matter, cultivating chasity might at first take the form of fasting from food, especially meat/flesh. This of course is an act of the will. You will need more than your will, though. You will need supernatural help from above (grace). So, genuinely pray for an avalanche of faith, hope and love to overwhelm your being. Frequently say you are sorry and beg for mercy (repeat the Jesus Prayer). And then participate in these highest God-given virtues. Go to church and worship. Love God and your neighbor. Take up your cross.

Brilliant explanation, thank you!

One of the most profound videos you’ve ever released; thank you.

@LJ7000

Жыл бұрын

I agree!

the most loving things we ever do are normally not what we want to do.....we do them because they are best for others not us....

@Tara-zq3il

Жыл бұрын

But the best for them is also the best for us. There is no difference. The rules in the Bible are giving us dim awareness of this because we lack faith,we are not fully aligned, but the dim understanding of following 'the rules, ' is faith that following the 'rules', is better for us than not following. We are developing trust that the outcomes will serve a higher purpose, even if we don't fully understand. It's still a huge step as we are not totally integrated like one the poster's analogy of the Musician or Jonathon's example of a basketball team.

15:00 I think the phrase you are looking for is "in the zone" - when an athlete is playing in the game and enters a sort of flow state. The spirit of the game descends and lifts the consciousness of the athlete higher.

Thanks for this Jonathan, reading Mathew chapter 23 you will see how Christ utterly lambasts the Scribes and Pharisees for the very thing you are talking about here. It really opens up Romans 6:23.

Today I felt down, and this video helped me get up. Thank you Jonathan

If we accept and understand the substance of the law as the apostles teach it, then we can apply it newly to the symbolic reality we experience in the manners Jonathan discusses. Our teacher Paul knows that if one is under the covenant of Horeb, one receives the curses of the law, death, because of disobedience/sin. Therefore the wages of sin is death. And death through sin is present with gentiles and in the world, even while it is not taken into account with them because they did not receive the Law. But that same law that makes Israel accountable to sin and so causes death, is given to them/us to be righteousness and life if we walk in it. The law is holy and the commandment is holy and righteous. But the Law is spiritual, which was given to a people who are not spiritual, but in bondage to sin through the flesh of Adam. So though we wanted to obey the law (and so desire a good thing) we did not obey God’s law but received the penalty of sin. But if this is the manner we lived (as Paul says Rom. 7:14) we *willingly* agreed with The Spirit that his law is good. So Christ became the flesh of Israel to abolish in his body the law of commandments in ordinances by which we died, becoming a curse on our behalf although he walked in the law perfectly. So that by baptism into his death and resurrection we now receive a new, divine, nature, and so do by nature what is righteous according to the spirit of holiness and not the old letter. Wherefore what both James and Paul say of justification, faith, and works of the law, is true. For by James who says that works complete faith, we know that the works of the law of Christ is the faith and not distinct from what we have received by grace. And by Paul, we know that justification according to these works is not accomplished except with the willingness of faith like Abraham. So by faith we are justified in Jesus Christ, to do good works prepared for us by God. [This is like a Jewish teaching today, which maintains that the received letter of the Law that we begin with (the Torah of Assyia) is not the essence of righteousness, but God with his righteousness is hidden in it. So that the Law hidden in the Letter (not the letter itself) is the actual, literal, law (peshat) by which is righteousness and life.] The peaceful harmony from God that we feel from music, exists in God, but by his workmanship is present in the written notes of music which intend that sound. But it’s only by playing the music right, with or without the music in front of you, that the harmony is achieved.

This sounds like the resolution of the argument between Catholics and Protestants over salvation by works or faith.

Jonathon should do a video commenting on Peterson joining the Daily Wire..

@theowilmot1841

Жыл бұрын

Not liking the change in tone of JBP’s content since he joined the Daily Wire at all.

@harleyseelbinder

Жыл бұрын

@@theowilmot1841 what do you not like about the tone?

@theowilmot1841

Жыл бұрын

@@harleyseelbinder I suppose it’s just the Daily Wire style, the tone is more similar to other DW content. I don’t like American partisan media any more than I like the McDonald’s and KFC my country has been flooded with, and it makes me cringe a bit to see the direction of JBP’s videos lately. There was a moment when I was excited about his direction but now he’s on about being unapologetically capitalist and saying meme-worthy things like “up yours, woke moralists!” Still looking forward to the Exodus lectures, hopefully we won’t have to pay an arm and a leg to watch them.

Thank you Jonathan for breaking this down so simply. I've been battling with the question of grace and law for a while now. But I think I'm now answered. Let me just muse over this explanation a bit more

My ming was just blown 🤯Im shamed how little do i understand about bible and christianity. Thank you Mr. Pageau for revealing this secret to us.

@Pontus_Olsson

Жыл бұрын

Glory to God!

Faith as allegiance 😵 This is a great way to think about it. I’m using it next time faith comes up in a discussion.

incredibly based and saint pilled.

There is a saying that goes like this Love God and then go ahead nm real all his commandments

This is a door. In. To the true nature and beauty of Christian thought. Thank you for this. Especially find the point about freedom hit the nail. I will sometimes use this term " the tyranny of freedom" to describe the dystopian world we live in under neo liberal capitalism. Free to do what? Go shopping at any hour of the day? Lol! Anyway. You get my point!

P.S. what translation of the Bible did you use for this?

But how do we know that the behaviour that we are having is truly Christ-like?

@CoreofShane

Жыл бұрын

Measure it by Love. God is Love

@icarovdl

Жыл бұрын

@@CoreofShane Still not objective enough, love can mean anything

@CoreofShane

Жыл бұрын

@@icarovdl Love is willing the best for the other.. can’t really get more specific than that as it’s always context dependent

@icarovdl

Жыл бұрын

@@CoreofShane One can wish the best for the other by burning him to death and stop the person of making worse mistakes... anything can mean "wishing the best". Love is not simple at all

@CoreofShane

Жыл бұрын

@@icarovdl No, I think most people with a rational and functioning mind wouldn’t think that. If you want a rational basis, Kants categorical imperative might come close… still doesn’t really hit the spirit of Love though.

The wages of sin is death is actually an idle threat that was meant to induce fear and control over the masses. The threat of punishment from a supposed infinitely loving God.

One question that comes to my mind is, what should one do when you know the "rule", but don't know the reasoning behind the rule? Maybe, in fact, the reasoning behind the rule seems to you that you should break the rule. To use language from this video, what if in some particular decision, you aren't yet a slave to grace? Do you go with the rule and be legalistic, or do you go with the reasoning you currently hold at risk of breaking the rule?

@DavidLarson100

Жыл бұрын

That's a great question. I think that's why, at least for Catholic Christians, there is such a big focus on following and informing your conscience. If it's a strict rule of the Church, I'd say follow it for the moment and seek more understanding. If it is a strict rule of a government, and you don't think it is right, I'd say following your conscience is more important.

@celal777

Жыл бұрын

Any act or thought should be in conformity with the principle of Love (as defined in 1 Corinthians 13:4-7) . This is the reasoning behind EVERY rule; for , when asked, what did Jesus say were the 2 greatest commandments ?

God bless you Jonathan

We should all make a little room in ourselves for messages like this from time to time to wash away the soot and unclog the rivers of our past. Thanks for the insightful deconstruction of this and the hope it brings!

Symbolique du chemin de croix. J

I think following his law is doing his will. His will for us. That why pork is still not food for us. It never was. Neother is any unclean animal. Yahushua did not do away with the laws as he has made clear. " Do that think that i come to abolish the laws.." Yet men teach that his laws are no more for us. Its a sign of allegiance for one, and for two, its because he knows whats good, and whats good for us.

Just been reading "Mephistopheles: The Devil in the Modern World". It tells of the story of the Devil. How Sin was first born from his forehead and how he went on to commit incestuous love to her. This gave birth to a son, Death. Death then raped his mother Sin, resulting in a sort of twisted trinity. I've also recently had a synchronicity regarding the topic of Death so all in all I'm very interested in what you have to say on this topic.

@tylermohr25

Жыл бұрын

That sure does sound like pure evil to me.

@Aidan-uy3bf

Жыл бұрын

@@tylermohr25 Mmm. Despite the obvious evil element to it Jonathan's brother talks about the evil of incest in his book The Language of Creation. About how in life the ideal is growth and expansion of the self. Whereas incest is a regression, it stops the growth and instead leads to a closed loop. Evil in that it only brings about more death and regression instead of life.

How do you bridge the gap between higher moral law and arbitrary bronze age legalism?

The wages of sin is death...but the hours are good.

I do miss pop culture interpretations. Speaking of which ich - its a mystery why SW has not covered anything on 40k universe wich in symbolic lore depth and density is only surpassed by tolkien

If you are not born again and filled with the Holy Spirit, Christianity will only be a burden. Walk by the Spirit and the fruit will be evident. The main fruit at the top of the list is Love ❤

Beautiful… so hard to explain the unexplainable! Thank you, thank you🙏🏼 such important work you do, Jonathan.

Jonathan "para-METERS" Pageau 👼

Excellent thoughts and on point. God have mercy on me a sinner.

Are you on Gettr?

Can somebody explain why this phrase is grammatically incorrect? I’ve always wondered this. It might sound silly, but shouldn’t it be the wages of sin *are* death? Wages is plural.

@confectionarysound

Жыл бұрын

I bet its a translation thing from the Greek. "Wages" might be the best translation of a singular noun. Just a guess. Also, "wages" isn't really plural conceptually. It doesn't refer to more than one 'thing', or at least its a little ambiguous.

@Skin_Man

Жыл бұрын

Paul Tillich in his systematic theology makes the case that we should deal with sin in the singular, not in the plural sense of "sins". I don't fully follow all of his reasonings, but from what I can remember it's along the lines that all sinful acts are included under the concept of sin as a whole. Though if you're referring to the wages part, it seems that it would be "the wage of sin is death" if "wages" is not correct, as death is singular, and so wages should be singular too.

...and the way of death is eternal life.

Romans 6:23 reads, "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." What does this mean? The answer is found in the second half of verse 23. In contrast with death, the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus. The verse is not speaking of physical death, but is contrasting spiritual death with eternal life. The person who does not place his or her faith in Jesus Christ will receive the wages of sin. "The wages" refers to a payment. When a person works, the person receives a wage or payment for the work. For example, James wrote of "the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields" (James 5:4). First Corinthians 3:8 teaches, "each will receive his wages according to his labor." Those whose "work" is sin will receive a payment of spiritual death, which is ultimately eternal separation from God in hell. While this is a dreadful situation, the verse immediately includes an answer to this problem. Through faith in Jesus Christ as Lord, the gift of eternal life is given. It is not earned through human effort (Ephesians 2:8-9), but is instead freely given through God's grace because of what Jesus did on the cross, dying as a substitute for our sin. Earlier in this same chapter, the apostle Paul wrote, "For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death" (Romans 6:20-21). In other words, prior to faith in Christ, we are slaves to sin, but the outcome is death. Often the death is experienced both in the present and for eternity. The sins of the moment may seem fun or liberating, but they are ultimately unfulfilling and do not result in the eternal outcome we desire. The solution is faith in Christ. After we have put our faith in Christ, it is still possible to experience the symptoms of spiritual death. Our eternity is secure and we will not be separated from God in hell. However, when we live out of our old natures rather than out of our new natures (2 Corinthians 5:17), we experience a sense of separation from God. This is very similar to what occurs when a child disobeys a parent. The child's status as a family member and the parent's love for the child do not change. However, the vitality of their relationship is damaged. Thankfully, this relationship can be restored. All we need do is confess our sins and turn back to God (1 John 1:9). We may still experience the natural consequences of our sins, but our fellowship with God can be restored. How can we avoid the "wages of sin" and escape the spiritual death Romans 6:23 mentions? First, we must place our faith in Christ. Only He can save us (John 14:16). Then, out of our trust in Him and our love for Him (in response to His love for us; 1 John 4:19), we obey Him (John 14:15; John 15:1-11). Our obedience leads us to a more vibrant experience of true life (John 10:10). Paul wrote in Romans 6:22, "But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life." As Christ-followers, we are free to live in obedience to God and undergo the process of sanctification. As part of that sanctification, we begin to experience eternal life even while on this earth (John 10:10; John 15:11). And, ultimately, we will spend eternity with God.

Thank you Jonathan... you have been like a mentor to me, I have become a catechumen thanks to you. God bless you.

The 'Death' referred to in that verse is the Second Death. The 'gift' is to be saved from that fate.

No jump….you never saw a Medieval man imagining a jump. Jumping is part of the split-problem.

Christ help us.

Jesus paid for our spiritual sins We pay for our carnal sins.

Your God is a person with deep emotions and he has done so much for you . Yet you talk about him as thing. Maybe someday you will see how hopeless and alone you are , so that you will turn to him for what he is truly offering

Words of Life

Matthew 20:13((G.N.T.))🗡

in stark contrast to those who left with a sense of 'nothingness,' this made my heart swell! I don't catch most of these presentations, but I did read and love Matthieu's book, and most recently was delighted to catch the discussion Jonathan had with Ian M. I am still left wishing every time someone mentioned the Truth, as Ian did a few times in that conversation, the response would equal exactly what Jonathan says here. oh that men would declare the Goodness of God! grace and peace all 💜

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How do someone transit from enlightened to beleaver. I really like you symbolism analyze. I understand the value’s related to faith. I dont unserstand the dogma. Howdoes the dogma enhance the analysis’s.

@Carlito6160

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@Charm Ming if you live your life like god exist. Why does it matter if Jesus was a real person or a story passed on for knowledge? I am not trying to be controversial. This is a genuine question.