Not a crash. A correction from the hype.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Correct. A correction is the accurate term

@prestoiidx

29 күн бұрын

I was thinking about this the other day and had a feeling they would plummet, I also feel that the 3rd gen cards from that awkward early 2000s era is gonna be the next era most sought after especially as that generation of people get older and more money

Sounds like the perfect time to buy vintage to me ✌️

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Correct!

Such a great time to be a collector these days. Stay away from the 300-1000$ alt arts , focus on good condition old school cards 🙌 great deals everywhere 😂

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

There's some serious deals

I'm a collector and I do care about quality. But I prefer pack fresh clean raw, I don't need a company or to pay a premium for some company to tell me the card is in good condition. Occasionally I'll pick up a slab if I really like the look of the slab. I also prefer slabs with a report, so TAG, ACE etc. Collect the card not the grade y'all.

@ReviewSalesmanDan

16 күн бұрын

Most PSA 8s and some PSA 9s are around the price of raw "near mint" cards, and they're generally in better shape. At the moment, if you mainly buy online, and you're not able to closely inspect cards before purchase, you're almost always better off buying graded. I've completed a handful of vintage 1st ed binders by cracking open PSA 7s and 8s.

@04lraffaini

14 күн бұрын

You’re so right RAW over everything and the best part, you can also decide to grade if you want!

@whatevername6553

3 күн бұрын

dont give ace business they are trash lol

Definitely still feel there’s a great opportunity in vintage it’s clear there’s a retrace but vintage will represent the roots of the hobby forever. Modern is just more relevant making it a “keeping up with the jones’ “ situation IMO. Even modern alt arts saw a huge dump at one point not long ago. Modern grails are also simply more affordable in psa 10 than vintage grails and that’s going to be a price barrier for many. Great video some things I would contest but it’s all very interesting to see how others think about the hobby. Good vid 😎

@Theu131

Ай бұрын

95 percent of people who collect Pokémon don’t grade though. They just want the cards. That 95% wants what is in front of them, modern. As more modern opens and less is available, modern cards rise in price. What is going to cause vintage to rise ? Another pandemic maybe? But no one wants that and if you are banking on it that’s kinda awful. As vintage gets older there are less people around who remember or care about it, the artwork gets better and better and the pool of people interested shrinks. There will always be a place for it, but alt arts are the ones that will be valued in 20 years by kids who can’t afford them now.

@Thomas86Wayne-bp1xp

Ай бұрын

@@Theu131 😅 you literally just explained the reason why ppl will always want Vintage….you just said Alt Arts…😂😂😂 the same reason kids will want alt arts in 20 years is why vintage is still a thing bro. Lol

You call it a crash, i call it a opportunity 😎 going to be stacking on vintage stuff for a while

@newjones1754

Ай бұрын

I agree

@theoneandonlyconnection

Ай бұрын

Same!

@sextingwithdolphins

19 күн бұрын

Same they are the og cards

@danirocket21611

Күн бұрын

I have a huge collection of these that I think I'm going to hold onto and sell later. Value will come back. Always does

Is it not a bit deceptive to compare average sales today to a single, exceptional, record-setting sale from 2020? Wouldn't comparing the average prices in each term give us a more accurate picture of how vintage cards have performed over the past few years? It's not as though most people bought, say, the 1st Ed Jolteon for $1150 -- that was one guy. Most people, even in the middle of the hype, were paying somewhere in the range of $350-500 for the card.

In another 20 years people will value the vintage cards even more

@drizzho

Ай бұрын

I disagree, modern cards will be considered vintage by then and the artworks are better. They will increase due to inflation but won’t be a “boom” like we saw in 2020.

@Theu131

Ай бұрын

In another 20 years, anyone who cares about vintage will be 20 years older with new responsibilities , and any kids into Pokémon will see artwork that is 20 more years out of date. I agree, inflation will keep them at about the same but I doubt any growth without another world event.

@jakeparker8616

Ай бұрын

In 20 years, modern will be vintage and I’ll be retired selling sealed product and slabs I had graded.

@Sandokh4n

Ай бұрын

@@jakeparker8616 A lot of people are doing the same though. Not sure if anyone will be able to retire in 20 years when there’s still 60% of total printed sealed products in people’s closets.

@mikeydubbz

Ай бұрын

I doubt it

Working on my own vintage collection, if there is some whitening or something like that I'll happily purchase it. But any big dents/bends will put me off. I don't intend to sell the collection but in 5 years time, I'd like to look back at it and I'm sure I'll be happier if they're in better condition

@Blackbeard925

Ай бұрын

exactly the same for me!

@JJ-fb2lp

Ай бұрын

I am okay with some whitening or even a scratch on the holofoil but anything with crease or bend, I don't buy.

@str8nashtygaming466

Ай бұрын

Definitely OK with LP cards. Especially when some of the tiniest imperfections make it "LP" .

@samanderson1650

Ай бұрын

​​@@str8nashtygaming466agreed. I have bought some LP holos recently, and they look great and are a lot more affordable sometimes!

@adamwilson1691

16 күн бұрын

yep! id rather buy a card for what it is rather than what it isn't, and what it IS is an original vintage piece of pokemon history.

Charizard reverse holo legendary collection says hold my beer 😊

Look at the pop of modern chases vs vintage chases, there is bound to be another spike for vintage but it’s not going to happen until modern becomes terrible

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

There's a good chance you’re right with this. Pop reports are less in moderns favour

A lot of those cards are still up 300 or 400% in less than 10 years. Thats a pretty incredible investment depending on when people bought in.

I think this grading hype will die in the coming years. It’s not worth paying twice the price for a 10 than a 9

@SkywalkerOne1977

15 күн бұрын

Perhaps people don't value themselves so they value their ability to spend money.

@lollercoaster4

15 күн бұрын

*Quadruple

@professorstoke7638

8 күн бұрын

I buy cgc 10 for a fraction of the price of a Psa and I’m very content with that. I’ve been cleaning up high end cards this way.

The important take away is that pokemon cards are well above where they were pre covid and don't appear to be going down. Tournament attendance is at an all time and the original collectors all have kids now. I anticipate the market to stay hot for at least another 5-7 years but truthfully with a new generation and older collectors coming back into the market it may stay high for a very long time.

It’s funny, when I came back to the hobby in 2021 I hated modern and loved vintage (due to nostalgia). However, now the nostalgia has worn off, the ‘appeal’ of older cards which are just holos is nowhere near the big modern cards. I think a lot of people feel the same hence the drops. Nothing beats 1999-2000 though!

@drizzho

Ай бұрын

I accidentally stumbled back into the hobby when McDonald’s put 25th anniversary cards into happy meals and my girlfriend brought one home to me. I proceeded to get two happy meals for lunch for like 2 weeks straight to get the cards thinking they would be worth a lot after the promotion ended. They currently aren’t worth much but it got me into going to card stores and buying packs and when I realized there was “alt arts” I bought a booster box of evolving skies when it first came out. Didn’t pull any alt arts in the whole damn box which made me start spending even more. Now I’m at a point where I can’t control myself if I see any sword and shield booster packs at a CVS or Walgreens 😂 they really reeled me back in like it was 1999.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

I think this is the heart of it. Though the tide will one day turn

@mitchelljones7573

Ай бұрын

Grew up opening vintage. Felt the same way vintage gave me alot of nostalgia but the modern stuff is pure art

@thomascrohan7810

24 күн бұрын

Same, however vintage is still king to me, and still brings me so much nostalgia. The art was beautiful back then and still beautiful today. I don’t like a lot of the new cards because I haven’t kept up with Pokémon since sapphire and ruby came out, so I don’t even know any of the newer cards. Probably why I’m still crazy about 1st gen cards

@TheConuresrule

17 күн бұрын

Vintage will always be king. No matter how much people try to say modern is better. Lol

I am an og collector and have so few good vintage cards. If they want to drop now that’s awesome for me. I’m gonna get a bunch of new stuff and it will be popular again. I’m glad to be able to start getting some cards I never got to have

@Maxmason.artist

9 күн бұрын

Shhh don't say that! People will end up buying more vintage cards 😂 we need em cheap so we can get em!

Jolteon is still selling for $300 more than it was in 2017....

idk for vintage psa 7/8s usually see the most sales volume in more common sets, I wouldn't consider them junk

The backbone of my collection and investing/grading efforts go to vintage. Sales are strong, and restock opportunities are indeed there, you just have to find them. It’s truly a buyer’s market with vintage right now, and things seem to be rather positive all around!

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

It is very much a buyers market! You may have just inspired my next future video!

Glad I missed the 2020 Pokemon boom. I purchased an electric guitar instead and learned to play during those lockdowns. Today I'm finishing my childhood sets from late 90s. What a time to be alive.

Hi can I ask where you get the pricing historical trend data? I'd love to take a look at some more cards. Thanks!

@calvarybaptisttemple8796

Ай бұрын

I believe he said from the psa website

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

PSA

Where do you get the pricing charts from?

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

This is from PSA

Hey what website did you use for the prices?

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

PSA

May I know what is the price index you are using? thx

What website are you using for the price charts?

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

That's PSA - though you need to drill down to find the info.

Theres an old song it goes, you gotttttaa know when to hold ‘em know when to sell em and know when to run

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Perfectly said. Know when to hold, know when to fold

I really enjoyed this analysis - thank you! The 2021 boom was certainly a wild time for Pokemon collecting and it’s interesting reviewing the cards that got swept up in the hype. In particular, I found the it interesting seeing the Electrode get completely over-hyped, and then settle much lower relative to the old, pre-boom highs compared to some of the 1st edition holo Rares you also looked at. While they still crashed, they held up a lot a better and for good reason! Thanks again 😊

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Well said! And definitely a lot of prices held up well!

I appreciate the nostalgia that vintage gives me, but I think the modern cards just look better. We're literally comparing holos to alternate arts and illustration rares and secrect illustration rares.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

It’s a very hard comparison given that these new full arts have had decades to evolve.

Your channel is going banana's 5,5k subs already?? Nice keep it going the uploads are great. Fastest growing poketubechannel for sure.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Appreciate the support newjones! The realest OG

The future is secret illustration rare cards.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Could very well be

1st editions will always be 1st editions for any collector, regardless of artwork.

They are simply too expensive. When my evolving skies/chilling reign sealed collection reaches a certain point I do plan on selling some of it to get myself a very nice vintage card though. Still on the look out for some vintage packs as well.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

We all love vintage. They are the original after all

Prices are still higher than before the boom. These cards will eventually go up again as long as Pokémon stays popular.

People think they will retire using sealed products from the current modern era know nothing about collecting and investing, the difference between current modern and current vintage is back in the day 99% of people didn't treat it as a collectible, we as kids played with cards, they got trashed and lost, right now Pokémon is printing insane amounts of cards like never before and everything is kept in perfect condition, there are massive sealed collections and the market will be flooded with products form this era. Vintage will always carry that value because is the beginning of the hobby and will be more scarce. Now it's a good time to buy because of this hype correction that didn't make sense. Go check the mid era, the prices are so low because nobody gives a damn about them, in 20 years nobody will give a fk about 99% of the cards from today because modern things will be the hot thing and what is modern today will just be another random set from 20 years ago.

@david.dvdpm91

Ай бұрын

And this is not a crash, is a correction, 2 different things

Do you think psa 10 vintages will come down further?

Pretty simple, vintage is popular among the old heads like myself that had them as a kid. Side by side modern artwork is superior to vintage. Its also cheaper and can be had in mint condition. A modern alt art Gengar is superior to a Fossil Gengar. I love a classic but if you were looking at a display case no question which catches your eye more. Its all about preference but I know young collectors have no interest in vintage at all.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

The tide may turn in a few years though

@mmatthewdavey5704

Ай бұрын

You would be surprised my friend. I ran into a Dad and his young son, i would guess 8 years old. And he told me he dreams of opening base set era packs to chase Charizard and fossil dragonite. The young kids are watching the old heads rip packs on their KZread channels so its rubbing off on the young generation as well. ​@phillips.collectibles

@DK-BayBay

Ай бұрын

@@mmatthewdavey5704 interesting. everytime I'm around young kids they love to rip Pokemon Go and Darkness Ablaze lol. The most random stuff. Idk why anyone would open a vintage pack. The high sure, but when you can buy the card for cheaper than a pack or the every card is lower than the pack but one, whats the point. I've been to monthly trade events this year and just about all the kids like swsd pokemon. Not a single kid liked trainer cards. so maybe thats something that fades away in the future idk.

@tallcatshortdog

Ай бұрын

Why would it turn? Vintage pokemon's artwork isn't magically going to get better and kids show very little to no interest in it.

@accountnamewithheld

17 күн бұрын

I'm 30 so I grew up with vintage in the playground. No interest in collecting it. Much rather collect interesting full arts and chase cards from modern.

Man. Australian eBay is not even the same market as the one we're using in the states. UK and Australian prices are in such a unique bubble price wise.

Low pop vintage cards are still going up, as are psa 10 copies

this is great... for someone like me. I still love to collect and play vintage formats. I was a kid in the 90s and I dont mind owning vintage cards that aren't pristine, I just love them. ive never and will never get into graded cards.

Yeah, I really disagree with all of this. Vintage is still up big from before covid. Its the new cards that will take a dump... Also calling a 7 junk is simply untrue. Some of the sets have 20x smaller print runs than todays cards and they are 20 years old... You think its tough taking a 2020+ out of a pack and grading it? Of course it will get a 9 or 10. Try having a card in a binder in an attic or garage for 20 years then grading it. That and you basically called the older collectors of Pokemon, novices. So untrue, Its the more established collectors in their mid 30s that grew up with Pokemon who are even buying the larger cards...

@andrewnorwood7291

14 күн бұрын

Absolutely agree on psa 7 not being junk that’s absolutely ridiculous take. If you want a collection of slabbed cards getting a 7 is much more affordable than the high and mighty psa 10 only people

@ReviewSalesmanDan

8 күн бұрын

7s can be fine as far as condition is concerned, but a 7 has never been a value add for any cards. You can generally get 7s for considerably less than raw "near mint" copies of the same card -- that's probably what's meant by the "junk" comment. That said, if you're just looking to fill out your collection with NM/LP cards, you can do so at a considerable discount if you buy 7s. I've cracked a number of 7s and 8s for binder collections. It's cheaper and more reliable (with respect to condition) than buying ungraded.

I kinda regret not selling some of my older cards during the hype era

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Yeah I feel that

and we are probably reaching a point of another crowded trade where people just buy PSA10 pristine everything and forget about raws and vintage again

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

We will need to see though you do make a good point. Time will tell.

Honestly i dont see PSA 7 as a "junk slab" 5 yea but 7 is still a pretty well conditioned card.

What website do you use to look at this price history? I find it very intriguing seeing what some cards cost before the hype

@phillips.collectibles

14 күн бұрын

This is directly from PSA.

Well I agree with most of the stuff you say... but when you show the pricecharts you should skip the covid era and still see that most of the cards you have shown 4 - 7xed if you compare price in 2017 and now which is still ridiculous. So calling it downfall of vintage is huge overstatement imho. It is downfall only for stupid fomoers who came in 2019 and 2020 and felt like pokemon is going to the moon for eternity. For long term collectors/holders the cards still made huge profit even if they would totally skip the covid era and tried to sell them now. But truth is that i can imagine the vintage getting even lower than it is now. So we will see.

@dcsoda1

Ай бұрын

Exactly. There’s just no way vintage is going to tank as much as he’s implying. It’s absolutely going to go up on long term.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Fair point! That's true they have had a price increase even after the 2020 boom

tbh modern day pokemon cards looks like digimon cards from back in the days.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

They definitely have some similarities

This price correction wasn’t limited to pokemon vintage. People drove up prices for mtg, sports cards, comics, and everything in between in 2020 for both vintage and newer items. They all saw meteoric drops in prices once speculators pulled back. For vintage the key cards will be the most stable and liquid in the long run.

Never judge the value of anything by the highest price one sold for.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

For sure. Though it's still reflective of the era when it sold.

Thank you for explaining it man. I'm new to this hobby and I always wonder why some of the vintage cards got cheap now. Now I know

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

No Problem!

One day, today's modern will become tomorrow's "mid-era" and "vintage" cards. Once the newer shinier, cooler cards come around, will they suffer the same fate as today's vintage?

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

There's definitely a possibility for this

It’s so interesting thinking about what the future holds for the hobby. I appreciate how you bring up data and facts without speculating. It’s refreshing to get information like that and not have opinions put on the viewer so thank you for that 👍 even if you state your own opinions I’d love to see if the first edition Zard becomes the micky mantle of 2050. Selling for over a million dollars in PSA 10 etc etc. it’ll be super interesting to see, but also the experience of opening sealed product continues to be the crux of the hobby. These boxes of sword and shield/scarlet and violet could definitely be what people focus on in that time frame because they want to relive their childhood of opening them nowadays. It’s just fun thinking about it Keep up the great content! Loving every video!

I more recently got back into collecting pokemon cards and I definitely have fomo over sets like evolving skies and missing out on some of those legendary cards. But this video gives me hope that I may be able to collect those cards for a fair price eventually

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

One day when the dust settles

I have a PSA 10 electrode 1st edition 😢

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

PSA 10 value might hold a bit better

Sneakers took off at the same time as Pokemon in 2020.

I don't meant to be rude, but I must disagree with all points here. You're saying vintage failed because people bought all the wrong stuff. No - they bought literally everything, and the entire market had a correction. Thus, everything [that was printed at the time] took a dip. Modern took a hit too. Shining fates charizard, the original poster child of "Modern is king," has been sitting at

@ReviewSalesmanDan

8 күн бұрын

Great response, laid out far more eloquently than I'd be able to. Appreciate you re-introducing a lot of the context missing from the video.

Crazy, I had no idea vintage card prices had dropped since the 2020 covid / Logan Paul, stimulus peak hype… despite everyone talking about that for the past few years. Card values are still exponentially higher than they were pre-boom.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Yeah I suppose a correction would be the appropriate term as they are still valued higher than before.

That Lugia was shocking. I actually talked about it with my partner.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

So wild!

This guy is right though condition is EVERYTHING. I TRY TO COLLECT CARDS that don't have the white spots that come from opening packs

Well said I declined to buy a vintage card due to the condition it was in how ever I'm sure there are a few in mint condition still roaming around.

I’ve been using this correction to pick up a decent amount of vintage I wanted, picking up a lot of ex era cards and vintage yugioh since the yugioh vintage market isn’t as hot as usual

Can you do an analysis for Full art trainers?? I love your analysis and explanations for prices and good investment

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

I'll look into it. List me some you’d like me to cover

Deja Vu in 20 years 😅

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

100%

Now's the time to pick them up then! 😂

@phillips.collectibles

9 күн бұрын

Correct!

Can't wait to see how this video ages :]

This is a great video man. But sorta as you were mentioning, let’s not think that collectors and investors are the same people…. Very different mindsets

Good because I need to finish out a lot of holos in all of my Original and Neo Series sets. Then hopefully move on to e-Card and EX Series. Can't wait to see where the hobby goes next 😅

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Right now is a good time to take advantage of that

Your channel has been excellent guidance and thanks for putting out calm and collected videos! I'm part of the 90's kid group buying vintage for myself now at early 30s. Didn't catch the craze during covid, but the classic story of 151 pulled me back in. I was never into grading and/or buying slabs, always felt unnecessary and scam-ish by companies just creating an artificial product/demand to sell and market. I also prefer the raw card in a binder, in-hand, or in a toploader storage. Thankfully didn't get caught up during the covid craze as I would definitely be upset if my then purchases' value plummeted so hard to today's numbers. That being said, my vintage buys I mostly just pay attention to condition - I tend to buy minimum LP, and NM when the price difference isn't massive percentage-wise. As I see it, the boat has sailed in treating vintage as investments, and their price won't be jumping massively any time soon. I also got a bit involved in the investing side of collecting - booster boxes, PC ETBs, etc. which also led to purchasing some 9 and 10 slabs of modern SWSH for speculation which have definitely paid off. Though it was interesting, the first slabs I bought my first thoughts was along the lines of, dang, the slabs are kinda nice. Modern does feel way nicer in comparison, but I need tho vintages for collecting.. I've been buying 1-2 copies of vintage to collect and possibly sell the second, 2-4 copies of modern for collecting, and re-selling.

HELL YES now maybe I can afford them!

@phillips.collectibles

11 күн бұрын

Haha this was my reaction too!

Just going to keep grading my wotc cards and sit on them for the next 10 or so years

Bottom signal. I will send all the PSA 10 modern cards you want for your PSA 5 trophy and 1st ed base cards. The assertion that quality trumps scarcity vs simply being a reflection of a different category of mania is ironic given the selective dunking on people paying high prices during a different period of mania. Like the content. Like modern era of cards a lot. Weird takes on this particular video though.

It’s definitely had the dust settle and land at their more realistic post boom prices for a lot of vintage, particularly PSA/BGS 9 and 10s. They also definitely seem like safe collecting (not investing) options at the moment as there isn’t the volitility of the modern alt art market. There also won’t be any low pop chase cards like the vintage era as even alt arts are in the thousands at psa 10s. There could be movement at 30 year anniversary slightly but it is just good to enjoy the vintage cards and at least enjoy modern alts bringing the thrill of the hobby to new collectors and modern day.

over time, the cards will increase in value. This is a correction due to a bubble crash, but over time, it will increase. Question is how much and is it worth the wait.

Unless the card is a trophy card, only buy PSA 10. Yes, this includes vintage. If you cannot afford vintage 10s, possibly do 9s but the growth will be much slower. Generally don't buy if you like money.

It has nothing to do with vintage, it has to do with a Covid boom and return to mean, although you’ll notice the cards are all still worth more than they were in 2019. But agree, don’t buy at the high of anything

Are these AUS$ or USD$?

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

USD!

Love it, picked up a few to finish my sets

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Great to hear! Nice job taking advantage of the market

Modern will be vintage some day and they will always be someone’s favourite card, so i say just collect what you love and enjoy it and share it and maybe one day you’ll wanna part with some of it and will be worth something if you look after it. Love the videos, i always watch them, sometimes even more than twice 😂

Honestly I think buying anything below PSA 10 for modern (maybe a 9 simply as an expensive case to hold your cards for PC), isn’t worth it. When it comes to vintage, I think people are just realizing that anything PSA 8 and below isn’t worth it, and the overall value of the cards went down because it was “buy anything” before, and now it’s “buy what is rarer and more unique.” In the long run vintage 8’s and above will do well, but anything below that likely won’t hold up. The best long run play is finding holos, ex’s, gold stars, etc., in 8’s and above of POPULAR Pokémon. We still have some years before vintage goes up again, but it will happen.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Great point. 10s for modern definitely seem like the smartest move.

@Sreavis38

18 күн бұрын

Na psa 8-9s are where its at, same price as raw or less and you know you're guaranteed to get a card in good condition where as raw im gambling a bit on the condition if i order online. i crack the slabs anyway because grading is dumb

@THExBLAZEx88

18 күн бұрын

@@Sreavis38 you totally countered your own point. You started with “PSA 8 and 9s are where it’s at” and ended with “grading is dumb I crack the slabs anyways.” I have bought plenty of raw cards that were then graded in 9-10’s. So if anything, you’re just adding an extra step for yourself. Just buy raw if you don’t like graded cards…

@Sreavis38

18 күн бұрын

@@THExBLAZEx88 im saying buying raw online is risky, so id rather buy an 8-9 slab for the same price or cheaper than raw and crack it so i dont end up with something scratched or dented, you cant always see that stuff in pictures

@THExBLAZEx88

18 күн бұрын

@@Sreavis38 I hear ya, but if you’re buying from eBay, you’ve got buyer protection if it’s not NM (PSA 8,9, or 10 worthy). And I’ve also bought plenty of singles from eBay that I graded at 9 or 10. Rarely if ever do I have a quality issue I can’t spot in the pictures. Idk if it’s a valid argument to take the extra step to crack it and possibly damage it in the process. Just seems like that’s an over complicated way of getting a binder card, considering you’re not grading them anyways. I think you’d be better off just buying them raw from a 100% feedback seller.

2024 is the year I made the most progress on my master set binder of jpn, unlimited, shadowless, first edition of Base, Jungle, Fossil, Rocket. Already had about half from childhood, bought some from 2020-2023 Went from missing 280 of ~1040 and now am missing 8 (including 1st Ed zard😬)

I agree with you on fomo on alt art cards but alt arts are also way harder to pull than vintage holos and they look way better so I do think that in 20 years alt arts will be extremely sought after

well presented, good video! much more informative and enjoyable than a lot of these other over the top 'investment' pokemon videos. things got way too inflated during covid so it makes sense to see it correcting back to a more reasonable level. prices being a bit higher than precovid also makes sense, since demand is probably higher than back then, and inflation in general so your dollar isn't going as far.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Much appreciated!

I’m glad these are coming down as I don’t care about value I just want to collect

@phillips.collectibles

11 күн бұрын

Yeah I feel ya. A lot of us missed out!

Dude I've been buying vintage during this special illustration boom 🤫

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Smart man

@angelvalencia4891

Ай бұрын

@@phillips.collectibles Even purchased a PSA 10 Trainer Deck B Squirtle for cheap.

@newjones1754

Ай бұрын

doing the same thing let other people overpay on the sir cards

GameFreak should make a Pokemon game that uses the base set TCG sprites.

I like the vintage crash. I got back with 151 and now i can scoop up all the vintage cards i want. Well not all but, the base Charizard, Blastoise and Venusaur are at a normal price again. Don't mind about quality that much 1000 bucks or 100-200 for the same card with some withning is a easy decision for me. Don't really invest in cards i think the best option is sealed.

@phantomask

Ай бұрын

yes!

Since vintage is so cheap i feel like nows the time to complete a master set and just hold. I think its more like investing in a retirement account. The problem is the pokemon company has made it there job to oversaturate the market. Since pokemon has always been about the hype collectors will sell off there collection just to afford ripping or buying the new cards. Its a market driven by gambling impulse buyers looking for the shiniest new toy and have the bragging rights.

I will take your PSA 7/8 off four hands ;)

I don’t want any vintage…

or we dont focus on the boom time frame ... look before boom and today and suddenly its a damn good purchase. comparing today prices with a time frame when every idiot without any plan bought cards is obviously "shocking"

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Yes but during that time people thought it was a good buy!

There is some very interesting vintage cards and there is still opportunity. If i may guess all these unlimited wotc cards and even many 1st editions is just going to remain stagnagnt in price for a loooong time. But there is some niche items especially JPN vintage that is low pop and extremely scarce, that is still very affordable if you ask me.

Same thing is happening with mtg, either way I'm happy vintage prices being back to normal somewhat

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Great time to buy

I love it, bought myself a skyridge holo flareon

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Good choice!

Part of the thrill of collecting is the rarity. In pokemon cards, due to the global demand, rarity and price go hand in hand. Vintage PSA 10s will remain high due to scarcity and those higher grades will attract investors and collectors. People are more aware of grading nowadays so lot of modern cards are sent for grading straight out the pack. As a collector myself, I think I'd rather have PSA 10 modern cards compared to PSA6 vintage. I could build a nice modern PSA 10 collection on an affordable budget knowing as well there is potential for them to mature... rather than bang average PSA vintage grades knowing that there will always be higher grades out there

You can find some clean 7s for a fraction of the cost. Worst case you crack and resell it as nm/LP.

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Definitely the case.

Soooo many words. Vid could’ve 1/10th the length and conveyed a more concise message

Any pokemon after the 151 are NOT pokemon.

You hit the nail on the head with this video.

All I heard is it's the perfect time to buy vintage 🎉

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Correct!

I finished Basic, Fossil, and Jungle back in 2010 (I was short 11 cards from my initial childhood collection) and the most I spent on a card was maybe $15. They were so cheap, I eventually started replacing my older worn cards just for the hell of it. I was 19 and got my first job - so why not complete my childhood dream? None of my cards are graded and most were used in deck shufflers and enjoyed by a small child. Adults ruin everything by overhyping this nonsense which always leads to a correction in the market anyway. I have to admit, the whole nostalgia industry has worn out its welcome. We talk more about the 90s nowadays then we did in the actual 90s. There are no more "Remember when..." moments because everyone now remembers and makes content about everything. When the only people buying old Pokemon cards or 90s Batman toys or even vintage band tees are 30-40 year olds that are just in it to wheel and deal their "investments"...then it's time to tap out. Buy things to enjoy having them instead of over paying them then having to tell your sob story as you post a market place listing two years later. Every Facebook group is mostly just ads for people that always magically have these toys and cards for sale. Everyone is a salesman preaching about "how these are my absolute favorite cards/toys in MINT CONDITION but...I have to sell them." It stops being fun.

@phillips.collectibles

3 күн бұрын

This was beautifully well written and a fantastic point. I never thought about that. Thanks for this incredible insight!

@TheLockdownKidNYC

3 күн бұрын

@@phillips.collectibles It seems like "collectors" don't know their history. All you have to do is look at the Comic Book crash in the 90s to see exactly where this nonsense was heading. I recently started taking an interest in old silver age Batman comics from the 60s because I never got into comics. Luckily, many of them aren't more than $30 because I buy usually grade 6 or lower then take them home and actually read them rather than be afraid to breathe on them.

I got a 1st edition psa 9 Mr Mime holo for $160

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Nice one, whats the price now?

@aliabdelaziz905

Ай бұрын

@@phillips.collectibles I just got it so I guess that the going rate

@phillips.collectibles

Ай бұрын

Great price then. Good to buy vintage