That's the big question. "How does me marrying my life partner hurt others" ? I'll wait.....

@angellawless7413

5 жыл бұрын

Kalondra Davis i see you’re still waiting 3 years later so ill answer: It doesn’t

@sierrakamau1510

5 жыл бұрын

It's about society. Not just you individual..harming society is worse than harming just you..

@angellawless7413

5 жыл бұрын

geo metric sure, but it doesn’t harm society.

@angellawless7413

5 жыл бұрын

geo metric being gay causes none of those things, AIDS especially. Ever heard of protected sex? Single parents exist, gay or not. What’s going on in some of the African countries is terrible and American catholics have a lot to do with that. I’m not gonna waste time arguing on youtube when our view points are much too far apart for a productive conversation. Good luck to you.

@sierrakamau1510

5 жыл бұрын

@@angellawless7413 Do your own unbiased reasearch. You will see for yourself the truth that the western media suppresses. Do you think society would need 'protected sex' if people were monogamous? Research monogamy among homosexuals, you will be totally shocked. Just coz single parents exist doesn't mean we should endorse a motherless or fatherless union as 'family unit'. African countries have solidarity and think for themselves. They take the pulse of their societies and make their decisions. They are discouraging homosexual propaganda (same with Putin by the way), and have tough laws to safeguard their own borders.

I hate the term "sexual preference". Its not a preference, that indicates a level of choice. You have no choice in your sexual orientation. If you did, nobody would be gay because that life is so much harder.

@kaileegarcia612

5 жыл бұрын

PREACH

@blackrosetheodorah4036

5 жыл бұрын

Amen

@M3l155a

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. It’s a sexual orientation. I also find it disgusting when folks call it a “lifestyle”. Again, we choose our lifestyles.

@micahadamson4309

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@taylorvaden5675

5 жыл бұрын

john buckley I say this all the time! Why would I choose a life that I know will be harder!?

suffrage is the right to vote. please learn that word.

@Ashley-il8ju

8 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that. they were using the word wrong!

@genkiniko

7 жыл бұрын

jeejeem8 lol this is the word that disqualified me from the 7th grade spelling bee; I got second place over a word I should've known as a black man.

@ridofchris

7 жыл бұрын

jeejeem8 ffs I'm 14 and even I know that world

@ashlynteague4742

7 жыл бұрын

Chris it's a word everyone should know.

@BoriPR82

6 жыл бұрын

jeejeem8 this is the cast if the view, how much more do you expect from them.

Damn Whoopi been woke way before woke became a thing.

@JohnnyHandsomeᵗᵐ

5 жыл бұрын

7.5M views How when she didn’t know what black suffrage meant back then?!? Lol

@KevenTalks

5 жыл бұрын

I cringed when she said "sexual preference" but otherwise yes she and Joy actually spoke with knowledge and common sense as opposed to the other 2 nutcases..

@shimmer4771

5 жыл бұрын

Nope. If she supports this mess, she's lost. 😢

@meesh11p

5 жыл бұрын

@@shimmer4771 It's wrong to be judgmental and being against civil rights

@shimmer4771

4 жыл бұрын

@@KevenTalks Not everyone us gonna agree with you. That's life, get over it.

Do these people actually not know that suffrage has nothing to do with suffering?

@zahras.8562

7 жыл бұрын

Thomas P looool I was thinking it means the right to vote 😂 not exactly the brightest of people

@bri5598

7 жыл бұрын

Thomas P well it is The View...

@skenney8325

7 жыл бұрын

I know, Whoopi, the self-appointed-knower-of-all-or-will- cram-her-opinion-down-your-throat-on-TV" didn't make it to English class (or history class). She only worries about being black, therefore she missed the boat on the "Women's Suffrage" movement. She is an idiot. She is constantly ranting about how EVERYTHING exists to suppress blacks and discounts that some people see the covenant of marriage between a man and a woman is one that is being trampled on. Like trans wanting to use the ladies room, gays are not happy with a civil union (which is open to everyone -- and should be - as it is the government sticking their nose in our business). They want churches to be FORCED to wed them in their religious ceremonies (after they stop off at the Christian baker and FORCE him to make them a cake, etc.) . . .

@maximumrisk2004

7 жыл бұрын

You appear to be a piece of work KenneyGirl. So in your opinion it lowers the value of marriage if the wrong People get it? So if homeless People could drive around in Ferraris, would that change anything about the quality of the Cars? Have you ever seen a properly transitioned trans Person? I would really love to see your Face the first time a big and buff Guy enters the Womens bathroom, since thats where you want them. As for Marriage, you have your beliefs and even if you do not approve, there are millions of Homosexuals that share your faith including the sanctity of Marriage. Funny thing is, first off you should learn to differenciate between Marriage (Church) and Marriage (State). A Church and Priest may decline to marry a Gay couple, however that affects only their spiritual connection. A Civil Union is not the same as a Marriage for the State and you dont nearly get the same benefits. Thats not special treatment, they only demand their relationships to be recognised just like everyone elses. Just to make one thing clear, nobody should be forced to do anything they dont want and I hate those assholes that sued just because they were not served. However beside that, your faith should not impact how others life their life. There are countless of Churches who perform Wedding ceremonies for same sex couples and in their faith its okay.

@skenney8325

7 жыл бұрын

maximumrisk2004 About 85% of what I said is what you said - but you took it and slammed it back as some sort of insult - like you made it up. I believe I said that the government had no business deciding who could marry. Every government union should be "civil" union. And the government should not be able to say who and who cannot get "hitched" if they are to be in the business. "A properly trans . . . whatever." There is no such thing as a person "transitioning" to a different chromosomal entity. As usual, hate comes from the left.

Sherri Shepherd disqualified herself from arguing about anything after saying that the Earth is flat.

@justinebeaver1419

8 жыл бұрын

If people don't believe she's that stupid, search KZread for: 'Sherri Shepherd thinks the world is flat'

@ministerstayfly9213

8 жыл бұрын

IM WITH YOU ON THAT

@kassop

8 жыл бұрын

Do you know what the earth looks like? have you seen it with your own eyes?

@kassop

8 жыл бұрын

Be careful what you say calling other people stupid, they might make a valid point that you cannot answer, making you look as stupid.

@faustus5481

8 жыл бұрын

kassop Is that _you_ in the picture? (Btw.....yes, this is me.)

"Re-defining the word marriage" You mean the word that was used for when a father sold his daughter?

@KevenTalks

5 жыл бұрын

LOL PREACH! These people have watched too much Disney and TLC wedding specials. News flash - marriage historically and currently isn't as sacred as you think...

@TogetherAtLast

3 жыл бұрын

lmfao

@ericrivera8410

Жыл бұрын

For a goat

Marriage isn't a religious event anymore. It's what the law calls a contract for 2 people who are in love.

@justinsimmons1866

7 жыл бұрын

Freedomed to death 1

@keepingitreal2401

6 жыл бұрын

government laws do not have the right to change what it did not create.

@yanscho

6 жыл бұрын

keeping it real ...government laws don't change what they didn't create, they only give everybody the access to that.

@ICONICPARIS

6 жыл бұрын

Freedomed to death EXACTLY

@MusicByKarinne

6 жыл бұрын

You’re right, it’s a contract between two people, accept they don’t even need to be in love. There is no interview or check box on the form that asks if they’re in love. So it’s simply a contract between two people, uniting their assets.

Gay couple who love eachother: banned Angry heterosexual couple who give eachother hell: accepted. Logic.

@Solidus-uz3yv

10 жыл бұрын

Sir Walter Really Sir I don't care about what you said it is a constitutional right to the presuit of happiness our filth is our right weather u like it or not

@Solidus-uz3yv

10 жыл бұрын

we all do

@sirwalterreally8805

10 жыл бұрын

Vick Marshall Proud hetero. Ah yes, the typical ad hominem response. So articulate and cerebral. Let me guess, still putting tacks in Mrs. Crabapple's chair at school?

@sirwalterreally8805

10 жыл бұрын

NAMBLA meeting get out early, Petey Poof? The only thing you could punch would be a child.

Watching this 10 years later is quite insightful because it’s legal everywhere!

@1saacbcourt452

6 жыл бұрын

You're wrong...it's still not legal "everywhere"...

@1saacbcourt452

6 жыл бұрын

I'm talking like around the world not the U.S.

@heyheyhey40

6 жыл бұрын

Belcalis Almanzar This video is about America! Not the rest of the world.... So of course when I said, “everywhere “...... I was talking in reference to America!

@Tan87ful

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Tan87ful

6 жыл бұрын

Joe T When u are talking on online, u have to really be specific for the idiots who don’t get it behind the context of what u said. Sarcasm also isn’t good to use online because some folks will take what u say literally.

I love the fact that whoopi Goldberg isn't offended by the fact they compared the gay rights movement to the civil rights movement because she's black. She actually took the time to see where they were coming from and that there's no ill intent behind it. She's honestly amazing. She's the kind of person that would get married to another woman to prove a point haha. She's an amazing human❤️

@BijinMCMXC

7 жыл бұрын

Chloe Hume Lots of black people do find it offensive. The two aren't comparable.

@joseandjai9239

6 жыл бұрын

Ahava Gays were being brutalized before slavery so.

@ben27705

6 жыл бұрын

BijinXOXO you’re right. The black struggle was nothing compared to the gay struggle.

@makalahcollins4469

6 жыл бұрын

Dorian Graye a stud musta swiped yo bitch lol why u mad?

@ljb5163

6 жыл бұрын

It’s essentially the same thing. ‘Being mistreated because of who you are.” First it was women, then African Americans, then gays.

It’s funny how in just 10 years you can already see who was on the right side of history.

@WhatAboutUs

5 жыл бұрын

Ben Leal 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@KevenTalks

5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Empathy for others, belief in happiness for OTHERS not just yourself will always be on the right side of history!!

@robinrobyn1714

3 жыл бұрын

@@KevenTalks Empathy for Incest, Polygamy, Polyandry, etc, not just empathy for your own predilections. Well said!

@Paul2377

3 жыл бұрын

Ben Leal - Agreed. I bet the two on the right are embarrassed when they look back on this now.

@darreylhenderson702

3 жыл бұрын

@@robinrobyn1714 okay Karen

people arguing about gay rights without gay people present is like men deciding women’s rights without female representation

Suffrage means the right to vote; so, "Black Suffrage" means blacks getting the right to vote!!

@elmagnificodep

5 жыл бұрын

AynRandy69 That was resolves for black men in 1870 and women in 1920. Thank you Republicans.

@elmagnificodep

3 жыл бұрын

@Nina Razzo Except the ending of slavery and giving women the right to vote as well as many other things.

Elizabeth represents many people in this country who don't seem to understand what the Constitution is about. This is not a country of voting for what the Constitution dictates. Yes, you vote to elect a President -- you are voting for someone to represent you. You do not get to vote for who deserves "Inalienable Rights" "That all men are created equal". The entire point of the constitution and the so called "Activist Judges" is to guarantee that everyone in this country shares equal protection under the law; even those whom you do not share an opinion with or agree with. There is no "gay marriage". There is only Marriage, a legal contract to which a portion of the population have been wrongly denied.

@rtpricetag3536

9 жыл бұрын

cornflkeboy1 You have entirely ignored the separation of church and State, yet the Constitution guarantees the right of free religious belief. The word 'marriage' is found (only) in religious ceremony called 'marriage', this is a wedding performed by a (religious) church. The same (wedding) is performed under civil law in a Civil Court, this also a union of two consenting people. Is it 'religion' you are trying to establish by 'gay marriage', then see what the Constitution says about the sanctity of the church, and the right to deny religious 'marriage' where they believe it a sin... Start your own religion, much of it is already obvious in America.

@cornflkeboy1

9 жыл бұрын

DeWayne Benson I am not concerned with the religious institution of marriage. If the Catholic church does not want to marry me, I certainly have no interest in forcing them to. What I am speaking of is the Civil institution. It is a legal recognition and status, and ALL citizens are guaranteed equal protection under the law. Legislators cannot pick and choose who deserves to be protected under law and who doesn't.

@rtpricetag3536

9 жыл бұрын

Correct, you have your protection found within the US Constitution (civil law), not religious ceremony of marriage. Although Christians will tell you, as I will also, your eternal security is found only with God.

@robmckay5421

9 жыл бұрын

cornflkeboy1 I think you are right. What you wrote is logical, just and true to the intent and meaning of the Constitution. I am not an American. I am a New Zealander. I live in New Zealand. Our government voted voted in favour of gay marriage in my country several years back. Australia is yet to follow.

@urzasbouncer

9 жыл бұрын

You both bring up great points. The name of the form people fill out at a courthouse is for a marriage license. That license does not end with just being considered "married" it also grants a lot of other benefits. The ability to make decisions as a family member in an emergency situation and other things. I do believe a church that does not want to marry a same-sex couple has that right. There are many churches that will do that though,

suffrage = voting I don't blame them for not knowing what the word means, but I'm appalled that they don't don't know or didn't take the time to learn before speaking on such an important issue.

@KevenTalks

5 жыл бұрын

Word. These topics are obviously fed to them ahead of time. How could you possibly not research or care enough to educate yourself on this before going on live TV...

They didn't know what the word suffrage meant? What the fuck? What the fuck?!

@alexanderespinal276

8 жыл бұрын

Linkfanoftheyear Eh, I don't think it was that nuanced. She said "I'll just leave it alone" and then Joy says "It has the word suffer in it" and then Sherri goes on and explains it incorrectly. I think it's clear that they did not know the definition of the word suffrage haha. I respect your input though.

@sybo59

8 жыл бұрын

+Linkfanoftheyear You don't seem to know what it means, either. Suffrage is not the state of suffering, but the right to vote.

@Linkfanoftheyear

8 жыл бұрын

ha yeah my bad :)

@hassanshamsedin7335

8 жыл бұрын

+Linkfanoftheyear YAYAYAY ZELDA!!!

@siunmadness5009

8 жыл бұрын

I didn't even remember until today lol

Whoopi did really well in this one. Thanks old girl!

@kylesummers2462

6 жыл бұрын

writingme exactly. And she’s completely right.

@localman12

5 жыл бұрын

@DuB OnE DUB ONE Really? why?

@hatebs4982

5 жыл бұрын

DuB OnE DUB ONE you’re literally insane.

@Whereyoubelongg

5 жыл бұрын

@@hatebs4982 don't respond to it lmao

@micahadamson4309

5 жыл бұрын

@DuB OnE DUB ONE If you could show me just ONE verse in the Bible that says being gay is a sin, I'd be most grateful. But I guarantee you won't be able to.

Elisabeth's voice makes me want to gauge out my eardrums with a fork

@KevenTalks

5 жыл бұрын

LOL!

@michaelhand7839

16 күн бұрын

She’s such a baby

people hating people when will it stop

@monsterlovesme

8 жыл бұрын

***** thank you jack

@monsterlovesme

8 жыл бұрын

+Jack Jameson I can't tell if you're serious or because my name 😐

@monsterlovesme

8 жыл бұрын

*****​ lololol hear that one ALOT 

@monsterlovesme

8 жыл бұрын

***** yes on purpose

@monsterlovesme

8 жыл бұрын

*****​ the Chinese have already started making their own islands in the ocean :(

I'm a straight(metrosexual)man with gay friends, and ill tell you right now they are some of the most giving respectful and caring people I have ever met...if it came down to it, I would die for them...they are my family and friends.....................

@pantera89

9 жыл бұрын

wtf???

@chriskinne5181

5 жыл бұрын

@abc123 I truly wish your father was gay...then we wouldn't be having your opion,because YOU gay boy wouldn't have been born.

@chriskinne5181

5 жыл бұрын

@abc123 God created mankind and gave them freewill. That's means mankind walks with God or walks away from God...that's free will incase you didn't know. I will not defend my knowledge any longer with you. But, I will say...I truly wish your mother and father were gay...we would not be having this conversation. Have a nice life, it doesn't last very long boy...on that day n you'll see and it will be too late.

@chriskinne5181

5 жыл бұрын

@abc123 I'm don't trying to fix stupid...nothing can fix stupid.

@stanbily9416

Жыл бұрын

We love you 👏🏽❤️🏳️‍🌈

"I don't want the words 'drinking fountain' or 'washroom' redefined by the fact that black people are allowed to use them as well."

@KevenTalks

5 жыл бұрын

100%...so odd to me that someone being black (Sherri) wouldn't inform them on the common experience of ALL marginalized groups.

As someone who has been married 10 years now to my husband, it almost seems like a lifetime ago that we were fighting for our right to marry. These KZread clips from just 15 years ago show how recent and raw it truly is for so many people in this country... fighting to not be considered second class citizens. Wow.

God Bless you but the LGBT struggle for civil rights doesn't diminish the Civil Rights Movement and treatment of African Americans.

@johnpruden2740

8 жыл бұрын

you are right. they were both strong battles, & they are both far from over.

@louisemuir1492

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this isn't pie

@brildidge9523

2 жыл бұрын

You are right. Besides, there are plenty of LGBTQ people who are black or come from other minorities. BAYARD RUSTIN was a major leader in the Civil Rights Movement and he was gay. What is wrong with living and allowing others to live ? Why not get worked up about the awful way the rich countries exploit the peoples of the THIRD WORLD, or the warmongers in societies - THAT is a great sin if ever there was one. Any kind of inequality is wrong.

I just came here to read the comments *grabs popcorn*

As a man who came to America as a wide eyed young man from Ireland in 1963, I have met a few of the Gay lads on jobs in the work i do which is Construction and they were good workers and decent people. In this world of terrible goings on, i think if 2 people Love each other and want to get married?, then we should raise our glasses and wish them all the blessings of Heaven..

@localman12

5 жыл бұрын

@DuB OnE DUB ONE That's how god created them, just like gay people. There will always be gay people get used to it.

@localman12

5 жыл бұрын

@DuB OnE DUB ONE Is that all one sentence? you sound drunk and crazy.

@joaroberson3162

4 жыл бұрын

@DuB OnE DUB ONE hey dub i think you for got a letter in your name let me correct it for you DUMB ON E DUMB ONE

omg they don't even know what suffrage means...

@kriswilhite5539

5 жыл бұрын

Dumb! I knew immediately what suffrage meant! Did anybody tell them?

@meriah10

5 жыл бұрын

Kris Wilhite lol atleast Whoopi actually said she’s not sure what that word actually means lol

@kriswilhite5539

5 жыл бұрын

@@meriah10 my history teacher from high school is flipping over in his grave and I now feel compelled to share this sorry excuse for an intelligent panel on Facebook. Sheri tried to take over the confusion of the hosts and sounded soooo stupid without realizing it. Proves they are merely there to sit in the chairs! This clip is pivotal in my opinions of that show. Something tells me Sharon Osborne and the Conner chick would have never been so embarrassingly uneducated in their vocabulary! I wonder if anyone told them.. oh I said that already!

@meriah10

5 жыл бұрын

Kris Wilhite agreed

Fascinating to watch this in 2021. Thankful to Whoopi for her argument

As a gay black man I totally agree with what Whoopi said. In my own words, it's the same fight, gay rights are civil rights and that battle should have ended the same time civil rights did. I never chose to be gay, black, or an American! Yet here I am in this hateful world with so many hypocrites and bigots, but I'm the demon.

@truthdottcom

10 жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter what color you are or what sex you are or what nationality you are. There is NO way getting around the Word of God about what sin is.

@19cosmo91

10 жыл бұрын

I have my own relationship with God, I'm not here for any man's approval nor understanding.

@truthdottcom

10 жыл бұрын

19cosmo91 You can think what you want, but Jesus says HE is the ONLY way to the Father so if you don;t believe this you are calling Jesus a liar and are not headed to Heaven. Only Jesus can forgive sin and provide salvation.

@jasonmusser9807

10 жыл бұрын

truthdottcom 19cosmo91 So, do people that live in the jungle or in parts of the world where they have never heard the Gospel, do they go to hell if they never even had the chance to accept or reject Jesus? Since "Jesus says HE is the ONLY way to the Father"? Is that in any way, shape, or form the way a kind and JUST God acts if he does?

@19cosmo91

10 жыл бұрын

truthdottcom Omg you're an idiot. How many different ways must I say I believe in the Lord? That I have faith in Him and His son? God made me this way, so are you doubting His will? His intentions and His plan?

Mexycan Karencita The bible deems many things "sins". Do you abide by all of them, or just pick and choose the ones that suit you?

@truthdottcom

10 жыл бұрын

You try to avoid all sin, however habitual sin which is a conscious sinning even thou you know God says it is sin. Of course, we are all born sinners and there is no one good in God's eyes, even thou He loves us - this is why He made a way for our sins to be forgiven thru Christ Jesus. When you are Born Again in Jesus, you repent of your sin, especially from the habitual sin and follow Him. You will always sin while in this flesh, but it is something we need to run from as best possible. You cannot see the Kingdom of God is you like the darkness and decide to stay in sin consciously.

@jasonmusser9807

10 жыл бұрын

truthdottcom ALL sin is conscious!

@sirwalterreally8805

10 жыл бұрын

***** That comment isn't backed up by Scripture.

@jasonmusser9807

10 жыл бұрын

Sir Walter Really I never said it was.

@nicholerodman3490

10 жыл бұрын

That is exactly what I was thinking. Thank you!!!

Our kids in 20-30 years will be saying “this is the stupidest shit I ever seen people argue about... I can’t breath!”

@CoryMatthew87

Жыл бұрын

You don't have to wait that long, I just watched this clip and 14 years later, I thought it was the stupidest shit I have seen in a while. Whiny Liz and the other talking about ruining the sanctity of marriage... ha. Meanwhile, they've been married and divorced and here I am with my same husband of 10 years. LOL!

Joy and Whoopi have always had consistent views and I applaud them for that!

Okay. If 2 men get married that's nobody's business. Same if 2 women get married. Nobody's business. That his or her choice. People need to get lives of their own. Stop hating on people who want to live their lives the way he or she wants to.

The measure of a civilization is how it treats its weakest members - Mahatma Gandhi.

@sirwalterreally8805

10 жыл бұрын

And the true measure of a misinformed libtard with nothing intelligent to say is to quote dead Indians.

@tosheatower

10 жыл бұрын

You live a sad existence it's so obvious just by reading what you wrote. I wouldn't want to trade lives with someone as angry and pathetic as you in a million years.

@felixgwj3678

10 жыл бұрын

tosheatower sorry what is this going to achieve

@sirwalterreally8805

10 жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ is Lord. Accept him as your savior and be saved for eternity. The consequences of acting or not are DIRE.

@mariatony40

3 жыл бұрын

@@sirwalterreally8805 Yada yada yada!

Struggles should never be compared it's flat out disrespectful

@nxbis

8 жыл бұрын

Word.

@GojkoGojkovich77

8 жыл бұрын

Comparing and relating are two different things. This was relating as there were no comparisons on how much of a struggle either movement has had. I agree with your comment though :)

@soccerislife6108

8 жыл бұрын

well gay marriage and interracial marriage can be compared

@GojkoGojkovich77

8 жыл бұрын

soccerislife We are aware that they can be compared, but it is distasteful to do so.

@siunmadness5009

8 жыл бұрын

TRUE

Wow. Watching this feels like a different world! It's amazing how far we've come in just 11 years. It's also interesting to see how are involvement in political issues as a society has deepened over the last decade.

@KevenTalks

5 жыл бұрын

Totally. But we still have some way to go 🙌🏼

@Hiker2110

3 жыл бұрын

I agree! Things definitely aren't perfect, but seeing how much things have changed within a decade, is pretty amazing. Whoopi the MVP.

@-D-I-V-A-

Жыл бұрын

JESUS CHRIST IS LORD!! REPENT OF ALL YOUR SINS & TRUST IN JESUS CHRIST TO SAVE U FROM HELL & DEATH!

@-D-I-V-A-

Жыл бұрын

SIN = DEATH but JESUS = LIFE !!!

I will never understand why Conservative Christians constantly talk about wanting less government intrusion in their lives UNTIL it comes to what goes on in the privacy of my own bedroom!

@kuuipomakalani8906

10 жыл бұрын

MAYBE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KEEP IT IN YOUR BEDROOM

@Shadysteps

10 жыл бұрын

KUUIPO MAKALANI Hide yo kids Hide yo wives, gay people coming into yo home and havi'n sex on yo beds... oh wait, they're not.....

@kuuipomakalani8906

10 жыл бұрын

AHH PAINT YOUR PICTURE , YOU PAINT IT WELL,, AND ALSO I WILL PAINT MINE "Faith or Works of the Law" Messenger: ~Liliuokalani Makalani~ Galatians 3 3 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2 I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? 3 Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh?[a] 4 Have you experienced[b] so much in vain-if it really was in vain? 5 So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard? 6 So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”[c] 7 Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. 8 Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”[d] 9 So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith. 10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[e] 11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”[f] 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”[g] 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”[h] 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit. The Law and the Promise 15 Brothers and sisters, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. 16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,”[i] meaning one person, who is Christ. 17 What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18 For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on the promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise. 19 Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. 20 A mediator, however, implies more than one party; but God is one. 21 Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22 But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe. Children of God 23 Before the coming of this faith,[j] we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. 26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. AMEN~ Prayer: HEAVENLY FATHER ,HELP US TO REALIZE, WE ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE LAW, BUT GRACE..... ~LILIUOKALANI MAKALANI~

@Shadysteps

10 жыл бұрын

KUUIPO MAKALANI Frodo: I wish the ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened. Gandalf: So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you were also meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought. Galadriel: It all began with the forging of the Great Rings. Three were given to the Elves; immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. Seven, to the Dwarf Lords, great miners and craftsmen of the mountain halls. And nine, nine rings were gifted to the race of Men, who above all else desire power. For within these rings was bound the strength and the will to govern over each race. But they were all of them deceived, for another ring was made. In the land of Mordor, in the fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Sauron forged in secret, a master ring, to control all others. And into this ring he poured all his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life. One ring to rule them all. One by one, the free peoples of Middle Earth fell to the power of the Ring. But there were some who resisted. A last alliance of men and elves marched against the armies of Mordor, and on the very slopes of Mount Doom, they fought for the freedom of Middle-Earth. Victory was near, but the power of the ring could not be undone. It was in this moment, when all hope had faded, that Isildur, son of the king, took up his father's sword. And Sauron, enemy of the free peoples of Middle-Earth, was defeated. The Ring passed to Isildur, who had this one chance to destroy evil forever, but the hearts of men are easily corrupted. And the ring of power has a will of its own. It betrayed Isildur, to his death. And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge. Until, when chance came, the ring ensnared a new bearer. The ring came to the creature Gollum, who took it deep into the tunnels under the Misty Mountains, and there it consumed him. The ring gave to Gollum unnatural long life. For five hundred years it poisoned his mind; and in the gloom of Gollum's cave, it waited. Darkness crept back into the forests of the world. Rumor grew of a shadow in the East, whispers of a nameless fear, and the Ring of Power perceived. Its time had now come. It abandoned Gollum. But then something happened that the Ring did not intend. It was picked up by the most unlikely creature imaginable. A hobbit, Bilbo Baggins, of the Shire. For the time will soon come when hobbits will shape the fortunes of all... See i can quote long ass shit too, but my stuff is cool :P

@kuuipomakalani8906

10 жыл бұрын

FACT IS FACT , AND APPEARS AS FACT , FICTION IS FICTION AND APPEARS AS SUCH ..AS FOR YOU OOOOO LOOK AT YOUUUU YOU ARE SOO CHILDISH... SOO TRUST AS A CHILD DOES >>For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[e] 11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”[f] 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”[g] 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”[h] 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

See here is why I am with gay marriage: allow it and don't get married in the church because they don't allow it in doctrine. There is a separation of church and state so don't force the gay marriage in churches and don't force your religious believe in politics.

@silviegrimarddosser3517

10 жыл бұрын

Politics, justice and religion are interrelated, Canada and America were founded on Christian Values, our Forefathers believed in the Bible, they followed it, we are ONE NATION under GOD, our American and Canadian justice systems are 100% founded on the THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, you can't separate them for as long as you live you will never be able to separate God from our Countries, we belong to Him, our laws, our politics although have strayed from sound judgement are still first and foremost based on the TEN COMMANDMENTS. It is still wrong to kill, to lie, to steal, to covet, to commit adultery, to disrespect your parents and or elders, however who in heaven and earth gave us the right to omit the first 4 Commandments; Worship God only, Don't have any idols before Him, don't use His name in a dishonorable manner and keep One day a week Holy unto HIM and for rest? If we are going to follow good sensible laws we should follow all of them not pick and choose to follow what suits us or else we will bring judgement on ourselves...God is Not dead, God is there whether you accept it or not, whether you acknowledge Him or ignore Him, the fact still remains that HE IS GOD and He rules !

@skyleradams5566

10 жыл бұрын

Silvie Grimard Even though they believed in a religion (I do not think it was Catholicism but I'll need to check) they also wrote that there is a separation between church and state so that it doesn't take over politics. So yes there are things that relate in government such as not to kill or steal, but that is a moral thing in itself. And in my personal opinion when people talk about the 10 commandments, they say to follow it word by word. But in the 10 Commandments it never says anything about marriage. So you can't follow that alone. And on the pick and chose issue, some would argue that they pick and choose about being against gay people, but skip over the part where you can't eat shrimp and wear a poly-blend shirt. So this is why it should be separate- because no matter what church cannot interfere in political matters and the state cannot interfere in church matters, unless it involves law-breaking things. The only thing a religion can do is have the people vote.

@wieslawl59

10 жыл бұрын

Silvie Grimard Honey, buy yourself a history book and go to reading classes. When you have learned to read , you'll find out, that Americans stole the country from Indians, killing most of them, and the rest were put in reservations. So there is ABSOLUTELY NO GLORY about the foundation of the country. IDIOT!!! And you can throw the fiction fairy tales out, you will be no wiser from reading them.

@MaeNotEast

10 жыл бұрын

Silvie Grimard Guess again! You might hear a lot of evangelical talk coming from some American politicians (usually conservatives) but you'll rarely hear it from a Canadian politician. We don't like that. Our country was not founded on the Ten Commandments. It had a hard enough time getting started. It didn't need to worry about referring to the Bible for every decision as well. I don't think God was ever mentioned in any incarnation of the Canadian Constitution. As it does today, Canada was obviously aware of the many religious sects of its citizens at that time and didn't think it wise to favour any one religion by involving it in the laws of the nation, As for the present day, well Trudeau made sure the "state" stayed out of "the bedrooms of the nation" when he decriminalized homosexual acts in 1969. He also "almost" quoted a Toronto journalist by adding that "what's done in private between adults doesn't concern the Criminal Code." He also legalized contraception and breathalyzers for suspected drunk drivers and got rid of the death penalty. Though I suspect he rolls over in his grave every time some murdering scumbag gets paroled after 12 years.

@moseskitakule8043

10 жыл бұрын

Skyler Adams Actually, the words separation of church and state are not found anywhere in the Constitution.

Marriage has constantly been redefined over the years. It’s no longer about property and possession, a joining of assets and powers and securing an heir. It’s more about love. Don’t tell me that something two drunk strangers can get in Las Vegas is more sacred than what a loving same sex couple can get.

I need Joy taking a sip at 6:35 a gif so much. She's like "are you f--king kidding me Hasslebeck?"

Whoopi is a real wise person. Kudos to her.

@cajayson8301

10 жыл бұрын

She knows what it means (voting rights)....she's uncertain as to how that word came to fruition to describe voting protection

@Redalution

10 жыл бұрын

Didn't know Sponge bob was a fan of Whoopi

@BloodTar

10 жыл бұрын

Uber subjective.

The Bible never prohibited the possession of slaves but actually gave instructions on how to regulate slavery. But it prohibited pork. I wouldn't get my morality from such foolishness.

@EmptyHand49

10 жыл бұрын

What verse.

@Eternallightify

10 жыл бұрын

TheYakuza49 Leviticus 25:44-46 As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly. Exodus 21:20-21 “When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money. Ephesians 6:5 "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ"

@MattC-jg1yb

10 жыл бұрын

Prohibiting pork? Nope.

@cindyqueen7228

10 жыл бұрын

Matt Schultz Yes it does. So does islam and Judaism by the way.

@boc1953

10 жыл бұрын

Hi Dswizzle90...I think you really need to read the bible that you follow. Maybe then you'd see it for what it really is. As for god freeing the slaves of Egypt...it never happened anywhere except in the bible. There is no extra biblical evidence to support the claim!

Marriage is overrated.

Before gay marriage, we debated om wether black people could marry....

Why are people so concerned about what two consenting adults are doing. As long as they aren't committing any crimes or breaking any laws, who gives a damn!!! Why should I care if you get married to a male, female or both. If all parties involved are competent consenting adults, stay the hell out of others people's business.

@jdheelfan

10 жыл бұрын

"As long as they aren't committing any crimes or breaking any laws" Same Sex marriage is against the law.

@JimBob-br1ns

10 жыл бұрын

Aren't you proving that you care by watching this video?

@boc1953

10 жыл бұрын

Same sex marriage is against the law in some places in the western world, but not for much longer!

@kassop

10 жыл бұрын

boc1953 Thats good, soon brothers can marry their sisters, a grand dad can marry his grand son, yeyy great future in the name of love.

@Betweentheraindrops8

10 жыл бұрын

kassop Too bad plenty of states have allowed cousin marriages for much longer than same-sex marriages, with plenty of these states still banning same-sex marriage (as in specifically outlawing it in their constitutions) while still allowing cousin marriages. If cousin marriages haven't lead to grand/parent-child marriages or sibling marriages by now, same-sex marriage sure as hell won't do it.

In the middle east, africa, some parts of asia etc. You could be put in jail, murdered or beheaded JUST for being gay. My cousin had a gay male friend in Dubai, and when a guard saw him kissing his boyfriend in their car, he called the cops and they were both sentenced to jail for 18 years. That's fucking ridiculous! Things are even worse in other places like Iraq, where young gay teenagers were tortured and crushed with cement blocks until they died. So yes, things might not be very bad for homosexuals in America, but they are living in hell in other countries. Open your eyes people and stop discriminating.

Plot twist, Barack approved gay marriage

@83jdc1

6 жыл бұрын

Alejandro Villalobos no he didn't

@83jdc1

5 жыл бұрын

@Eric Ryan The supreme court did it, Obama just happened to be President, he had nothing to do with it. Know the facts before you call somebody else stupid.

@SimpleSpectator

5 жыл бұрын

83jdc1 He was against it in 2009 bc it had religious connotations lmao

@83jdc1

5 жыл бұрын

@Eric Ryan stop it, you don't know the facts, the Supreme court made Gay marriage legal, not Obama. His personal belief was irrelavant.

@hdbtftsg

5 жыл бұрын

@@83jdc1 To be clear Obama didnt "approve gay marriage" but he did do several things to help make it a reality. This included ordering his justice department to not argue against the suit that was before the supreme court, Filing an amicus brief in the Prop 8 case, and became the first sitting president to come out in favor of gay marriage which of course had an effect on public opinion and therefore The Supreme Court (rightly or wrongly many of the courts rulings take into account public opinion). In addition Obama had appointed two justices (Sotomayor and Kagan) to the court that ruled in favor of gay marriage (in a tight 5-4 decision) and certainly he took that into account along with a host of other issues when selecting them for the bench.

Omg Meghan is Elizabeth 2.0

Gays are free to get married just like everyone else. They just have to marry someone they don't want to. Marriage should be between 2 humans, not 2 different sexes. My best friend is gay and he is free to marry me, but not the man he loves.

@thalonelygirl

10 жыл бұрын

Gays that I know want the legal rights which come from a legal union. For some, it isn't about religion at all.

@chelsasimpson3447

10 жыл бұрын

***** by your logic, any straight couple who has had sex before marriage should not be allowed to marry either. You can't pick and choose what parts of the bible you believe and preach.

@chelsasimpson3447

10 жыл бұрын

***** not true. There are several Christian Denominational churches that are willing to perform and acknowledge same-sex marriage.

@ichigobankai2343

10 жыл бұрын

If marriage is something between 2 humans then I should be able to marry my sister LOL

@sirwalterreally8805

10 жыл бұрын

Chelsa Simpson They are NOT Christian churches. If it deviates from the doctrine of Christ, it is NOT Christian.

If Gay Men and Women aren't allowed to get married, then I see it only fair that straight men and women aren't allowed to divorce. Since they cherish their marriage so much, they'd better be damn sure they want to keep it.

What are the odds that out of four women on a talk-show panel not one of them knows what 'suffrage' means? WTF?

Wow, not a single person knew the meaning of suffrage on that panel. How low does the bar need to be.

"I don't want to be forced to live my life like this just because it makes you uncomfortable" I really love that quote. Perfect argument FOR gay marraige

Dear everyone who is in favor of gay marriage, I'm currently in favor of traditional marriage however I will make you guys a deal. If you guys support my right to marry five women then I will support your right to marry someone of the same sex. Come on people... MY BRIDES AWAITS!!! If you are against polygamist marriages then don't marry into a polygamist marriage!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!

@noobtuber9625

10 жыл бұрын

No need for deal. You marry who you want. Rest of us will do the same.

@chinesedevildog

10 жыл бұрын

Ganaa Dany Really??? Marry who I want? So you have no problem with me if I were to marrying 5 women or... I really hate to say this but you seriously would have no problem with the members of NAMBLA and other pedophiles marrying a 13 year old?

@billnj2006

10 жыл бұрын

chinesedevildog - Who the Fuck are you to make us a deal? Marry 20 wives if it suits you. But you are have no authority on who to say who marries or not, you're an idiot!

@chinesedevildog

10 жыл бұрын

Bill Carnevale Really? Anyone can marry who I want? So you have no problem with the members of NAMBLA and other pedophiles marrying a 9 year old? YOU ARE THE IDIOT HERE!!!

@123thatGuy100

10 жыл бұрын

chinesedevildog Pedophilia is the sexual relationship between an older person and a younger person. The younger individual is not as mentally capable and is more susceptible to doing things that would otherwise not be in their best interest. On the other hand, gay individuals are not mentally handicapped and can make smarter decisions for how they live their life. You also brought up the issue of marrying multiple women. In a marriage between many, there will be tensions between the many. This will lead to an unstable relationship and then possibly more bad things will follow. Gay marriage however is as stable as straight marriage, debunking the argument completely. I really hope that the lawnmower of change runs you over, because that philosophy is an overgrown weed. :D

Can't have homophobia being brought up without religion.

@theuglykwan

8 жыл бұрын

+nick peter You can. One reason is ignorance, even without religion, ignorance can exist. And religion can be similar to ideologies, some of those are anti gay too.

@bandit7459

8 жыл бұрын

There is a difference between feeling uncomfortable in a lockerrom with someone thats gay but not give a fuck what they do behind closed doors and someone who thinks hateful things towards the LGBT community. I'm gay, I know what its like growing up in a fucked up environment. I also know its grating to go against the expected "norm". I get why some people feel uncomfortable...but hate is a whole different subject. That is something that can only be brought out through a belief system, even if its from some archaic book used to brainwash the ignorant.

@tightend4

8 жыл бұрын

+nick peter You cannot diagnose a fake disorder, without trashing the real truth concepts of the bible...

@tightend4

8 жыл бұрын

+theuglykwan Thousands of years before the whikkke sex gay rights agenda in Amerikkka...THE WORD OF GOD IN LEVITICUS 18:22 said "THOU SHOULD NOT LIE WITH MAN AS WITH WOMAN. IT IS ABOMINATION!!!

@bandit7459

8 жыл бұрын

tightend4 Ah the old testament, the one that endorses murder/rape and slavery...and if we go look at the new testament we get a story that is plagiarized off of several other "religious prophets" like Krishna, Horus, Dionysus and several others. "Thousands of years before..." are you serious...like wtf. You're talking about a time where people believed the world was flat and the earth was the center of the universe. People didn't know anything and didn't have the capabilities to expand there knowledge without society condemning them. Also fake disorder? Faking feelings...so being with someone you love unconditionally is fake, but when religious leaders rape and marry 16 year old girls its called real love? And a disorder? You do know homosexuality is common in nature, even in animals that mate for life? And let me guess your reply "we're not animals!!!!" Evolution says otherwise, but if we are going to go on the theory that animals are "unchanging creatures with only simple instinct"...then that just describes you.

Idk why Elizabeth keeps saying "redefine marriage" when marriage has so many definitions historically and culturally

Does ANYONE know that sufferage means the right to vote....Ugh!

@bradhaney3720

10 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU!!!

i love WHOOPI! she spoke so eloquently about the gay rights issue...thank you!

It was about ten years ago. Let's them talk again now and that would be so interesting how the time has changed.

What i find funny about the view is that the oldest ones are the most progressive and the youngest ones are conservative lol

"I may not agree with what you say but I will defend your right yo say it" -Voltaire.. In other words I may not agree with your lifestyle but I will not deny the life you choose to live, reason you're not causing harm to others nor me... It's none of my business, literally....

@ajuma55

10 жыл бұрын

Excellent message!! It's a shame that more people don't think this way!

Im gay, there are similarities, but not the same, coming from a gay black man.

As an African American, and as a black gay male, I think I'd know, because I live it. This is not just an "opinion". In a nut shell , everyone just needs to learn to share this American soil. Equal rights should be granted no matter race, gender, sexual preference etc., or America can't be considered the land of the free. I wont say who's right or wrong, because this is the exact division our media cause. These type of debates are sickening, and cowardly, that IS my opinion. None of it matters, because you are not gay, and you are not black, stop trying to prove a point. Until you live in both truths, you have no opinion of substance. Live YOUR life....

There are four fully grown adult women sitting at a table and not one of them knew what the word suffrage meant

Homosexuality is NOT a civil rights issue. It's not covered under the civil rights act. Why? Because it has NOTHING to do with someone's genetic makeup, at least as not medically or scientifically proven as of yet. If it's found out people are born gay, then yes, they have a case, it would truly be an injustice. But seeing how it leans more toward it being a choice, personal, private choices of a small minority no less, that point shouldn't logically lump themselves with cases of real injustice.

@claudemiranda7106

10 жыл бұрын

Was it a choice for you to be straight? ...didn't think so. Being gay is NOT a choice.

@claudemiranda7106

10 жыл бұрын

cyanidemaiden There are people like yourself that exhibit "BI"-sexuality and that's fine. However gay men and women do not "choose" to be attracted to people of the same gender. The reason why I get so vocal about this is because I'm tired of seeing gay people getting bashed, teenagers being disowned by their parents and the community in general being treated as a group of second class citizens, simply based on sexuality. Its not right, its not fair.

@zeiglebear3705

10 жыл бұрын

Claude Miranda Thank you, Claude, for explaining the difference between being bicurious and being homosexual.

@cyanidemaiden

10 жыл бұрын

Claude Miranda ......I don't think I made my point clear. I was just talking about owning dicks. And to be fair to you, I'm going to be honest. I've never really been attracted to a female before.

@tiffanymarrero6409

10 жыл бұрын

***** Did you know there are tons of scientific evidence that leans heavily toward homosexuality NOT being genetic? See how that works both ways? Not proven to be genetic, not going to make claims that it is. It doesn't matter if someone is religious or not, facts are facts, regardless of who finds it.

The definition of suffrage is the right to vote! Not suffering.

ANY american who doesnt get FULL & EQUAL rights reguardless of what you think of them has EVERY RIGHT to fight for them without haters trying to derail them cuz of their beliefs dont match this secular country's constitution, period.

Gay marriage became legal. And OH MY GOSH THE WORLD CRUMBLED! j/k everything’s fine.

Suffrage is the right to vote, not suffering.

For the record Barack Obama said, "I believe marriage is between a man and women BUT every American doesn't therefore they should be able to marry whomever they please."

@jbak87

6 жыл бұрын

Taylor Suarez Ppl have forgotten that.

@johntutela5816

2 жыл бұрын

Shortly after that he changed his thoughts on the matter. People evolve and change.

Crazy how quickly times change. Can you even imagine this conversation happening now?

It's an easy comparison to make because no other tax-paying American minorities in recent decades have been so ostracized and openly berated..although that's now changing in this country with the increasingly hostile rhetoric towards immigrants and Muslims... As a gay person I'm always offended when people say "don't compare the two groups/struggles!!" We - all people - have more in common than we have differences. But unfortunately the more we stick to "no, we're different" - the more we set ourselves back and distract from common goals towards equality and justice...there's strength in numbers....I wish more black people AND gay people understood that and didn't constantly bash each other, and I've seen it from both sides so many times....

homosexuality is equal to heterosexuality for they are two people in love. love has no bounds nor restraints. if god is all knowing then he would see the love of both and see them equal. how can the love of a homosexual be a sin, if so then love of a heterosexual is also a sin. the only thing we know for sure is that people don't like homosexuality. the christian god's thoughts on this is unknown for he has not said a word. don't include the bible, that thing was created by man and its very old. god has not said anything resently.

Love Wins 2K15!

I remember seeing this when it aired and I kept saying to the television "suffrage means the right to vote...."

i would never encourage the comparison of the struggles of marginalised people, but i essentially agree with whoopi

This is so ancient now. Marriage equality is a thing. Don't be upset by watching this.

Imagine being so worked up about a word. Go volunteer, help the needy. Some productive. At even at that just mind your business.

5:11 Joy can’t help but be a comedian man lol 😂

Judy Judy said that. "If you're against gay marriage, Don't get married to a gay person."

They don't even know what the word "suffrage" means....smh

@jdheelfan

10 жыл бұрын

LOL!!!! But they are so smart we should let them guide or decisions in life.

How does a gay marriage affect a heterosexual marriage? Does it change how you go to work? or come home to your wife? Or when you have dinner or mow your lawn? Does it change how you do your taxes or write a check? Does it raise prices at the grocery store or lower the price of gas? YOUR life is YOURS! so let others live their own lives!!!!!!!!

@-D-I-V-A-

Жыл бұрын

BUT WHAT ABOUT WHEN U DIE? WHERE WILL U END UP, HEAVEN OR HELL? THIS DOESN'T MATTER TO U?

@-D-I-V-A-

Жыл бұрын

DO U LOVE YOU'RE SIN THAT MUCH, THAT YOU'D THROW AWAY AN ETERNITY IN HEAVEN FOR THE PLEASURES OF SIN FOR A SEASON?

"The real haters are LGBT supporters." - Yeah! How incredibly RUDE of them to NOT want to be designated to 2nd class citizenship. Shame on same sex couples for NOT accepting their place (at the back of the bus). Paying the same taxes, following the same laws, why should people expect to be treated EQUALLY under the law, enjoying the same benefits as YOU do. What's the world coming to when honest, God fearing BIGOTS can't express their superiority by discriminating against the LGBT community? - I feel your pain (NOT!).

There are certain parallels between the black struggle and the gay struggle, but what I find even more weird about this discussion is that we are discussing these two groups as if they are exclusive. Does it not occur to anyone that black gay people exist? With this understanding, it's clear that you cannot compare these movements. Comparing the gay struggle to the black struggle does erase the black struggle. And it also erases the existence of black gay people. Parallels can be drawn, but they are simply not the same thing.

True marriage is a covenant, marriage in this day and age is a contractual agreement. And anyone who tries to use the argument that in the bible, husbands could divorce their wives without the woman's consent, are missing one thing. Since the beginning of time, man has done nothing, but defy God. Like Jesus said, because they had such hard hearts, Moses allowed just that to occur. That was never God's intention or plan for marriage. A lifetime commitment between man and woman, who loves each other, and is willing to give a lifetime of submission. Not divorce your wife, for whatever reason. Not to have multiple wives and concubines. Not to only marry wives for status and so that she'll give you multiple children. That is the wants of man. Not what Jesus desired.

@joyr36

10 жыл бұрын

Very well put.

@FrankLightheart

10 жыл бұрын

Are... are you kidding? God is against... polygamy? God? The Biblical one? The one that openly supported characters like Abraham in polygamous relationships? In 2 Samuel, God explicitly states to David that he was the one that provided David with his multiple wives. Is that the actions of a deity that is against plural marriage? Is there even a Bible verse that explicitly forbids polygamy? I don't think so. But polygamy isn't even the point. What I object to is the contention that gay relationships are bad by their very nature and those who participate in such unions automatically cannot experience and express love in the deep, meaningful way that straight relationships can. That is just an insultingly horrible assumption to make.

@ajbreezy11

10 жыл бұрын

***** Amen. I had this month long conversation with someone who got upset because I said homosexuality was a sin. They said that I wasn't a Christian and that I hated homosexuals... I don't. If I were to hate gays, I might as well just hate myself along with everyone else, because I'm a sinner too. But I acknowledge my sins and I wish people would stop trying to justify what God said was wrong.

@ajbreezy11

10 жыл бұрын

***** Well, God did give us freewill. Even if in the beginning we were perfect, (that is at that moment we were) we still had the ABILITY to be sinful and imperfect. God didn't just start giving us freewill after we sinned, we had had it all along. If we didn't have freewill in us, then we wouldn't have sinned in the first place. We just would've stayed the way God made us... So yes, with freewill comes the negative and the good. Since defiance is under the bad category, we've always had it in us, just wasn't visible until we had something to trigger it. Correct me if I'm wrong and I hope that answers your question.

@FrankLightheart

10 жыл бұрын

ajbreezy11 The topic of gods and free will is always so muddled. If a god were to value free will, it would stand to reason it's because he wants to see free agents explore and discover things about their world and each other. But if a god were to value obedience, giving agents free will seems pretty counter intuitive. What good is free will when the ultimate sin is disobedience?

Did it not occur to them that one can be gay AND black?

Thanks, Joan. This whole conversation could be summed up by the words, "How does it hurt you?" If you're so offended by people who have no impact on your life... well, you need to get one.

This is some seriously flustered people trying to be homophobic without trying to be homophobic. 😂

These women are not too intelligent from what it seems. Suffrage does not have any correlation to the word suffer. Suffrage simply means the right to vote. Period.

I just want to be able to legally marry, in a way that, I can add my parter to a good health insurance and dental insurance plan through my job, and leave them my Social Security, and pension if I die first. And to make sure that they are taken care of.

@anonymousperson1327

6 жыл бұрын

The word marriage comes from the bible, and God designed it to be between a man and a woman, period. I think if same-sex couples want a way to be unified, it should be called something else. That way they're legally unified and can do all of the stuff you mentioned.

@anonymousperson1327

6 жыл бұрын

Donny Hathaway---You're right when you say what I think doesn't matter. But what God thinks does matter. I made a reference to the bible in my previous comment. At the end of the day, what you do is between you and God, and I'm not here to judge you. And who said you were a second class citizen because you're gay??? My brother is gay and I certainly don't think he's a second class citizen! I wish you the very best.

@mikaylaraymond3173

3 жыл бұрын

@@anonymousperson1327 no human being who are bigot Miss translate the Bible and use it for bigotry. Marriage is between two people who love each other regardless of gender sexuality our religion or culture. The Bible is man written.

@anonymousperson1327

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikaylaraymond3173 - The bible is inspired by God. Are you discrediting the bible?

We’ve come so far ❤️ this humbles me

You are born black, and you are born gay. One is your skin and one is your brain. Sometimes both. Discrimination on the way you are born is full stop evil.

The fact that anyone who thinks the struggle of blacks is the same as the gay "struggle" needs help. Civil right aren't for the protection of a sexual orientation.

@jonq8714

10 жыл бұрын

How you can't see the connection is absurd.

@atheistsrnumber1

10 жыл бұрын

open your eyes, youll see how wrong you are TheAlanakane

@eikweifliusxdclnuisd

10 жыл бұрын

Very true....they are not the same struggle. Gays went from a dehumanized, disenfranchised minority to the tail wagging the fucking dog....in what? 25 yrs? It took blacks like 400 years.

@tyler98621

10 жыл бұрын

TheAlanakane Are you serious? Since the creation of religion gays are killed for being gays. Hey let's go to China and Uganda. How about the USA 10 years ago? Also pretty sure gays didn't cause this while African kings created the slave trade...oops

@TheAlanakane

10 жыл бұрын

tyler98621 "African Kings created the slave trade?" Boy go sit down somewhere!

I will never for the life of me understand how people that proclaim to be "Bible-believing Christians" believe that homosexuality will keep you out of heaven but their own sins will not. James 2:10 makes it clear that all sins are equal in God's eyes. James 2:10, "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it." In other words, every time one sins, they are also guilty of committing homosexuality (if it is indeed a sin) as well! Gotta love the Bible sometimes! ;)

Amazing how they could have a civil conversation without talking over one another. Meghan McCain could never

Fast forward 8 years later, gay people in all 50 states are able to get married. Yay!

Until recently in our history only humans that owned land could vote in parliamentary elections, the vast majority of humans will never own land. Should this still be because it was for so long? Why not redefine marriage? we redefined the voting franchise, why cherry pick?

@McTrollie

10 жыл бұрын

***** Nonsense marriage between a man and woman was to further small human societies success. Homosexuals could not have children so therefore they hindered success. For the last five hundred years at least humans have lived in large urbanized environments, more children does not equal more success. Therefore homosexuality would no longer hinder the success of humans. In actual fact the world is over populated with humans we need to start adopting, this is exactly what homosexuals who want children will do. When you prove your pre Palestinian nonsense is correct we'll start living by pre Palestinian law.

@wieslawl59

10 жыл бұрын

***** Dude , overpopulation is not about occupying space by each person. It's about requiring recources from the natural environment and pollution. Use your brain before you write comments(unless you're joking? Jokes do not work well on the Internet)

@leglessinoz

10 жыл бұрын

***** Really? You can't be that thick or can you? It takes much more than a square metre of ground to support a person's life. The world is already overpopulated.

@McTrollie

10 жыл бұрын

***** Funnily enough I was referring to pressure on public services. Such as pensions and the health service. Not the physical space a human being takes up on the Earth.

@KeltoiMagus

10 жыл бұрын

I have to say, you are good for a few laughs, even if you contribute nothing useful to the discussion

ireland is a very conservative country and the people just VOTED yes to legalizing gay marriage with 62% of the population voting in favor of gay marriage...looks like the catholic church has finally lost their grip on ireland...great news !!!

@lurkingshadows4800

6 жыл бұрын

Sylvia Garcia You just responded to a two year old comment. I find molesting kids immoral, but the church won't stop pumping out child molesters. Guess we all have to deal with things we consider immoral, huh?

@sylviagarcia4075

6 жыл бұрын

LURKING SHADOWS There's child molesting all over the world n probably everyday. Not just in church's.

@lurkingshadows4800

6 жыл бұрын

Sylvia Garcia No, really? What a revelation.

@lurkingshadows4800

6 жыл бұрын

Sylvia Garcia You're not very responsive to what I say. You're just repeating a script, even to the point where you ignored the fact that this was a two YEAR old comment. The Catholic church loses every single time it sexually represses someone to the point that they think it's OK to touch kids. Thousands of young girls and boys have been molested BECAUSE of catholicism, not gay MARRIAGE.

@ljb5163

6 жыл бұрын

Sylvia Garcia I’m gay. Just thought that would make you upset lol

(clicks on video after reading title) (slowly reaches over) (gabs popcorn) "This should be good."

As usual Whoopi had the strongest most intelligent argument for her position, and she was on the right side.