"North Vietnam cannot defeat or humiliate the United States of America. Only Americans can do that." -President Richard Nixon

@MarkusBracey-cs5rm

Ай бұрын

THATS SO UNTRUE. STUDY VIETNAM WAR. ITS WAS THEYRE WILLING TO DIE FOR THRYRE COUNTRY AND UNITY UNDER HO CHI MINGH IS THE REASON WE COULDN'T DEFEAT THE VIETNAMESE PEOPLE KEEP IT REAL. WATCH THE VIDEOS THEY NOT LYING. 1975 SPELLED DEFEAT. BTW WE WERE RUNNING OUT OF VIETNAM MY POPS RECON MARINE VIETNAM CAUGHT TWICE BY THE ENEMY MADE IT BACK HOME

@jakobheidenreich5

Ай бұрын

He also wrote in one of his books “We won the war but lost the peace”. Very true.

We Won Every Major Battle, But Lost At The Peace Table.

US leadership had no idea what victory would look like in Vietnam from the outset. Westmoreland was convinced a military victory was possible, almost nobody else in US government agreed. Every US policy-maker was convinced some form of intervention in Vietnam was advantageous to the US, although almost none believed that a decisive military victory in Vietnam was possible without any less than a million plus US troops in Vietnam. After a year of Operation Rolling Thunder, a negotiated settlement with North Vietnam was always the goal. We lost the war.

Tell that to the viet cong, they fought for a independent Vietnam, and they won, we were told our soldiers fought and died in Vietnam for our freedom , the Vietnamese won, and we are still free. What a waste of our fine young soldiers, they died for nothing.

@orionoutdoorsandworkshop5617

2 ай бұрын

the u.s. has never fought for freedom. this country fought for independence because rich people didnt want to pay their bills, same as today. its always been in retaliation or money or control. vietnam was fought because the u.s. was scared that soviet money would become the dominator in the world.

@JohannPachelbel81

Ай бұрын

Nah...they die for Truman. I wish Roosévelt could live longer

Vietnamese people have been defending their country for a thousand years...war is literally in their DNA. They defeated Gagnus Kon or whatever his name was? How is anyone gonna beat them?

@davidcockrill7115

2 ай бұрын

The Chinese defeated and occupied Vietnam for centuries. The Champa kings built a kingdom in the south part of what we now call Vietnam in the 5th Century. They controlled the trade of the South China Sea. Angor Wat temples were built and later abandoned in what is Cambodia and Vietnam.

@skinhead5

2 ай бұрын

​@@davidcockrill7115That was before they got the war virus in their genes.

@dillanspec4

Ай бұрын

1968 during the battle of Hue City 4 US Marine Battalions defeated 4 NVA Regiments (a regiment is like 4-6 battalions if you dont know) the Americans did not lose militarily they actually won all the major engagements but it was a purely defensive war and everytime the Communist NVA and Vietcong came at them and threw everything they had, like during the Tet Offensive in 68, the Americans won and because of Air superiority and firepower superiority usually inflicted triple the causalities minimum on the Vietnamese, The NVA and Vietcong only won once the Americans had left and the ARVN could not last alone but the Vietcong and NVA couldn't do that for 8 years while the Americans were therer from 65 till 73 ish roughly because it was a slow pullout that took time to get all the troops out, the war effort lost support back in America because people realized fighting a purely defensive war is pointless and that it was just so the industrialists and arms dealers can make money, and so they eventually left, but the idea that the Vietnamese are invincible and sent the Americans back running with its tail between its legs is not accurate and i think you're very naive if you believe that friend.

@mikechevreaux7607

Ай бұрын

​​​@@dillanspec4 Over 1000 Years Of Vietnam History Prove You Are Wrong. Didn't Matter IF It Was China, France,Japan, France Again, And Finally America. Vietnam IS The Afghanistan Of Asia, Never To Be Defeated And Occupied. About 1979, Vietnam Defeated The Evil ChiCom Maoist Regime Of Pol Pot, After Cambodia Attacked Vietnamese Civilians. China 🇨🇳 Got Defeated When It Stupidly Attacked Vietnam In 1980. Just Be Happy Vietnam Today IS Our Best Ally Against China 🇨🇳.

@dillanspec4

Ай бұрын

@@mikechevreaux7607 It did get defeated and occupied many times otherwise there would be no french colony and no Indochina wars lmao,

Hmm the U.S didn't win the Vietnam war, you evacuated saigon

We lost the war, but we were the superior military. The casualties were many times more on the enemy side, and we won all the MAJOR battles. It was a strategic and political defeat. But we did go on to win the Cold War 16 years later. Vietnam was as a major war, but it was also a Cold War proxy war.

@johnnunn8688

2 ай бұрын

You only lost the war because you let your Government fight it.

@ChristopherWray7

2 ай бұрын

Exactly we rocked Charlie victor

@JB-yb4wn

2 ай бұрын

Hey buddy, most of the dying on your side was done by the South Vietnamese, so cut the BS.

@skinhead5

2 ай бұрын

We also lost Afghanistan.

@ChristopherWray7

2 ай бұрын

@@skinhead5 we didn’t lose dumbo we just left lol

No one wins a war.

@skinhead5

2 ай бұрын

Hanoi won.

@richardwarner3705

Ай бұрын

Might as well say "it takes two to fight". Which is BS

we never win. we always invade and abandon.

@cyclone8974

2 ай бұрын

South Vietnam wanted our help. You can't invade if they ask you to come. Blame JFK JFK said to the journalist Charles Bartlett in April of 1963 "we haven't a prayer of prevailing there (Vietnam) but I can't give up a piece of territory like that to the Communists and get the American people to reelect me". In the spring of 63 he told Mike Mansfield that the only reason he kept us in Vietnam was his stake in a sixty-four election he said "I can't pull out until 1965 until after I'm reelected"

@MarkusBracey-cs5rm

2 ай бұрын

Let's be honest WE LOST IN NAM.

@cyclone8974

2 ай бұрын

@@MarkusBracey-cs5rm We weren't there when the war was lost. We had 50 Troops in Vietnam in 1975

@MarkusBracey-cs5rm

2 ай бұрын

@@cyclone8974 10 year war We were forced to abandon TOO MANY DEATHS AND WOUNDED AMERICANS FACE THE FACTS. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE

@MarkusBracey-cs5rm

2 ай бұрын

@@cyclone8974 TET OFFENSIVE JAN 30 1968 CHANGED THE TIDE OF THE WAR. It was wayyyy more than 50 American troops at that point. But half of American soldiers thought twice after Ter. Like is this war Winnable?

The U.S. didn’t surrender.

@MomentsInTrading

2 ай бұрын

That’s because we left instead.

@cyclone8974

2 ай бұрын

@@MomentsInTrading right but why did we leave? That's right we had a treaty with North Vietnam and South Vietnam. Which North Vietnam violated as soon as they could. Part of the treaty was we had to supply the South Vietnamese army, we didn't, and they didn't even have bullets to fire by the end.

@orionoutdoorsandworkshop5617

2 ай бұрын

@@cyclone8974 buloni. the u.s. left plenty for the south to defend themselves, trained and equipped them. the north came in and used those weapons against the south. just like afghanistan. the u.s. left because they didnt have the support of the american people.

What the commentator forgot to mention, is JFK got his German wrong and called himself a sausage.

@nobodyknows3180

2 ай бұрын

Actually, a Berliner is a pastry, not a sausage.

@johnnunn8688

2 ай бұрын

@@nobodyknows3180 it was a looong time ago, I’m so sorry my memory is fucKeD.

@reginaldcornelia8907

Ай бұрын

Yes, a Berliner is basically a jelly doughnut. That's why if you look at the crowd when Kennedy says this., you see that they are laughing...

Cushman was my commander in 68 in Vietnam.

In 1959 82% percent of Americans could not even find French Indochina on a map. What is this? A geopolitical sexual fantasy. The French colony war ended at Dienbienphu 1953. We lost 1975.

@cyclone8974

2 ай бұрын

Americans couldn't find most of Europe on a map. Still can't today. The US was long gone by 1975. We had at most 2000 troops in South Vietnam. Not enough to do anything with. The democrats cut the funding for supplies promised to South Vietnam by treaty.

@Croatian-Knight.

2 ай бұрын

@cyclone8974 The U.S. left in 1973. Corrupt regime bearly lasted 1 and a half year. Never should have been there in first place. (Quote) Highly advisable U.S. keep out of this French quagmire. Lt. Col. Peter Dewey O.S.S. Oct-1945. Later shot when his jeep was blocked by a tree trunk and he yelled something in French to the perpetrators. He was the first American to die in Vietnam according to British liason officers. French lost their colony war at Dienbienphu 1953. Same year the criminal Dulles brothers overthrew president Mozadech of Iran and installed Fascist dictator Shah Pahlavi. Guess what happened in Nov-1979?

@cyclone8974

2 ай бұрын

@@Croatian-Knight. Myth: Ho Chi Minh was a nationalist and a benevolent leader of his people Fact: Ho Chi Minh was a dedicated communist and slaughtered hundreds of thousands of his fellow countrymen. Ho Chi Minh was a founding member of the French Communist Party in 1920 and founded the IndoChinese Communist Party in 1930. He spent four years training in Russia and became a member of the Comintern. He was not just a member of the Comintern. He was the protege of Dmitry Manuilsky, right hand man to both Stalin and Lenin. He was a dedicated Stalinist who never swayed from his desire to forward the cause of international communism. He turned his fellow countrymen over to the French for money and to eliminate his rivals while consolidating his power. He "purged" the North Vietnamese landowner class, killing at least 50,000 (some estimates are as high as 900,000!) of them for the "crime" of being financially independent. He slaughtered and imprisoned hundreds of thousands of his own countrymen in the South in an effort to rid himself of all opposition. Myth: The South Vietnamese government denied the people a free election on unification [related to the guarantee of free elections written into the Geneva Accords] Fact: Neither South Vietnam nor the US were a signing party to the Geneva Accords. Neither, therefore, had any legal obligation to abide by the agreement, which was between France and North Vietnam. Only France and North Vietnam were signatories to the 1954 Geneva Accords. South Vietnam was not invited. Neither was the US. The election was an addendum signed by no one. It had no force in law, and the North had no intention of allowing UN observers Before the ink on the agreement was dry, North Vietnam had already violated the agreement. Viet Minh communist troops in South Vietnam did not move to North Vietnam, a violation of the Geneva Accords. North Vietnam harassed and interfered with citizens attempting to move to the South, a violation of the Geneva Accords. One million still managed to leave. Viet Minh communists in South Vietnam immediately began using terror and violence to disrupt and destroy the South Vietnamese government.

Sure. And Saigon was renamed General Abrams City.

Funny, when i see Y.T. travelogues on Vietnam, 🇻🇳 this flag is flown throughout the country, and Saigon is called Ho Chi Minh city.

Excellent viedo. The facts are with the American veterans that fought there. There General in the end said one more year and and American veterans would of wiped the NVA out. They were out of warriors.

We won decisively. We forced them to surrender terms at Paris. The war was over. We left. The communists broke their word and invaded SVN. Our congress broke their word to SVN by not sending necessary supplies. NVN defeated SVN. They did not defeat us.

@skinhead5

2 ай бұрын

Um...? Re read the history. The treaty was for all IS forces to leave that civil war with out the NVA chasing their tail. The NVA were allowed to keep its troops in the areas in the south they controlled. The remaining VC could happily control any village they controlled.

@orionoutdoorsandworkshop5617

2 ай бұрын

buloni. nobody honors an agreement with the u.s. because the u.s. does not honor. nobody stood up and said hey i won. the u.s.. went there to try to deter the communist from ruling the world economy and the u.s. wanted the dollar to dominate. vietnam was nearby nobody cared about them and they have nothing to offer but rubber. vietnam was convenient. that war could have been fought in a dozen other countries and probably was. we just never know the whole/real story. our govt lies to us just as much as everybody else country does.

Are government lost, our men won!

They may off won battles in the Vietnam war but you lost the politics ..

God bless our veterans

I flew in the gunships in nam, we did not win that war. But we won most of the battles but I was talking to a soldier that still monitors whats going on in nam and he commented to me that it is still going on. with mercenaries mostly.

What was there to win?

Militarily we may have been winning the battles but that isnt what the war is. For 10 years americans died in their thousands and the government kept insiting the north was beaten, can you blame the people for being fed up and not wanting to keep seeing their sons and brothers die?

Tucking tail n running with the enemy on the door step is not a win. Most all the winning veterans are dead now

We got our a$$ kicked

The videographers don't understand white balance and post production and brought a trevesty to documentary electronic imagery gathering.

The Vietnam War was the a major conflict that saw the U.S.A. defeated by Vietnamese guerillas and North Vietnamese regulars. After 10 years, and almost 60,000 casualties, the U.S. forced withdrew from the conflict, packed their bags, and headed home. The American defeat was a big shock for most people at the time, and some are sill in denial about it...

@cyclone8974

2 ай бұрын

Well considering we were gone for 3 years when South Vietnam fell. After the democrats refused to fund the supplies we promised them. Yet they want to support Ukraine now. It's laughable honestly.

@cyclone8974

2 ай бұрын

The NVA and VC got their asses handed to them over and over then we left. The South Vietnamese took over the fighting but couldn't fight with out the supplies we promised them.

@paulmoser1968

2 ай бұрын

Watergate ripple effect lost the war when the turmoil in government ended the Nixon administration and with it the subsequent support of the Vietnam government.

@user-vi8dh8kq8y

2 ай бұрын

@@paulmoser1968 However you cut the mustard, and there were MANY reasons why America lost the war, when the fighting stopped, it was the VC and North Vietnamese regulars who stood unopposed on the battlefields. That's why what was Saigon became Ho Chi Minh city. Not even America's military might could stop the Vietnamese desire for national independence.

@user-vi8dh8kq8y

2 ай бұрын

@@cyclone8974 Whatever sort of rationale you offer for the result, when the fighting stopped, it was the American troops who went home and the VC and North Vietnamese regulars who stood unopposed on the battlefields. That 's why Saigon became Ho Chi Minh City. All the 'ifs,' and 'buts' don't change the fact America lost the war...

Win! thats misleading

We won nothing whatsoever.

how we won the war.!!!!!!!!! 😮😮😮😮😮 it should be..... how we Lost the war

@cyclone8974

2 ай бұрын

How we lost. Well we didn't since we hadn't been there for 3 years when the war was lost. The South Vietnamese couldn't fight because we didn't give them the supplies we promised them. They didn't even have enough bullets fire their rifles.

America LOST, cope harder.

We didn’t win🤦🏽‍♀️

@johnbeechy

2 ай бұрын

you are right because the same deal nixon agreed to could have been done in 1968 before the election. William colby said it best. 'there was a time that i could not drive out of saigon without being shot at. But later, i was able to drive out of saigon without any attacks'. But Winning is now measured by the number of consumer products being made in Vietnam, so the usa Shareholder Class can profit more than ever (if it had made Nike shoes in usa). Ho Chi M wanted to be free, free of the japanese, free of the french and free to not have war profiteers (amercans) and their military industrial complex running Vietnam's economy. Gwbush did not serve in Nam, nor did trump. if either, or both, had died in Nam, there would have been a better america. gwbush cost many american lives with his two loser wars, both started with out any exit plan and without evidence., Bin laden was in paksitan by November 2001. and was not even killed by a GOPer. saudis control the GOP party and got the americans to invade iraq. that is called losing / as long as the Shareholder class gets their profits, which never go into the GDP (as per the GDP formula), the american deaths were worth every penny of their profits. 58,220 compare that number to the 87,141 deaths JUST in Florida due to the hoax. no one has gone to jail for using the hoax. 1.16mn+ deaths and the GOP call that 'winning' too. less slaves, less of the lower class, than nixon had killed in Nam God Bless and never bet on the USA when the Game is a war. no wins since the end of world war 2. not one.

@kve1247

2 ай бұрын

@@johnbeechy thank u very much! Outstanding in depth statement!!👏🏽👏🏽

@cyclone8974

2 ай бұрын

We did but the war was lost 3 years later after the democrats refused to fund the supplies we promised them. They want funding to prop up the government they are using to launder money in Ukraine though.

@glennso47

2 ай бұрын

The politicians stuck their hands in the mix and gave the whole country to the communists. Thus the people who suffered and died, did so in vain. 😢

@kve1247

2 ай бұрын

@@glennso47 exactly! So very sad😞

According to our country there never was a war t Only a military police action😂

The US had to run crying and begging for life from VN inspit of far superior Equipment . resources and help from other friendly countries. You may have won the battels but lost the WAR.

We love usa militaryall kinds,so we the people,we love trump 8am not love biden or dems&liberals❤❤❤❤❤

@skinhead5

2 ай бұрын

I you love the troops so much, don't send them to fight for bullshit. We don't fight for Ukrain borders or for the Jews.

Unusual that the Vietcong would make a film in English?

They wasted lives and money. The soldiers who served wasted their time and “skills” for a tyrannical government. They got taken out on helicopters running with their tails tucked.

Sorry u lost

william colby's words r more valuable than any lower class draftee's. Nike shoes r made in Nam and that is all that is Import-ant. the use of foreigners to make shoes, at a lower cost to the Shareholder Class, is all that makes a winner. lives lost (58,220) is no bother. none of the dead were ever going to be more important than the Vietnamese that would help american shareholder profit more than if the workers had been american. agent orange really helped science study the long term affects of what happens to an american that is being tested with A O. without the americans showing the test results, other nations might have used the A O on their own peoples. gwbush still imagines he wont the war in iraq. no wmds. too bad Gwbush had not served and died in Nam. then there would have never been an iraq war, nor a 9/11/01 Trump supporters claim, 'if trump had served in nam, usa would have won'. If donald had served, and died, there would never have been so many cops die on January 6th 2021.

@cyclone8974

2 ай бұрын

No cops died on January 6th 2021, none. Why didn't Bill Clinton serve in Vietnam?

We won 🇬🇧 then when we gave it to you 🇺🇸 you lost big time

We didn't win the war in Viet Nam. Sure we beat them on the battlefield but the north won in the end thanks to politicians. Nixon promised the North billions in reparations and that never happened. The politicians and the American civilians were sick and tired of pouring money into Viet Nam. And let's be honest, most Americans, including the military had never even heard of Viet Nam before the police action (not war). Remember, it was not a war by declaration and the USG tried to use that as an excuse to not pay for the agent orange damage done to our vets later on. So we cut the purse strings and left the south hanging without ammo and fuel to continue fighting anyway. The commies moved in and the rest is history. I could go on but those are some of the main points of why we didn't win.

@kve1247

Ай бұрын

Exactly!!