I was on a road trip with my 6 year old in the mid 1980's & we stumbled upon this magical place out in the middle of nowhere when we were searching for some space station experimental lab out in the same area. It was closed to the public, so we continued on & spotted Arcosanti! It was smaller in those days & only had a few students living there & making bells to sell to the public. I seem to remember that they only had 8-10 sets of hanging bells & they were out of my price range. I did get some nice photos & the original house & pool were in a state of disrepair. It's wonderful that they were able to bring it back to life & get it back on it's feet again. We were the only visitors that day & I do remember having a small meal & a cool drink in their tower room that had exceptional breezes wafting through it on a 105 degree day without air conditioning or any other type of cooling system. The use of portholes & movable metal shades over the windows worked so well to keep the concrete building cool! The outdoor theater was the special feature with the bold colors & large graphic designs. It was a memorable day. One I have never forgotten, so thank you for showing it in it's present day state. I doubt I will ever be able to travel there again.

@mr.jazzbodkelsey58

5 жыл бұрын

Nice memory, thanks for sharing! I've never been there, but you just reminded me of a similar place I've gone before. My dad and I drove into Luckenbach, Texas once and had a beer. It's the smallest town in Texas. Basically just a parking lot, a concert venue and a gift shop. Lol, but has lots of history. We bought the Waylon Jennings album with the song "Luckenbach Texas" on it. And listened the whole drive home 😊

@TheJttv

5 жыл бұрын

You must have been looking for biosphere 2.

I lived there for five years. My apartment overlooked the amphitheater, and I ran the workshop and educational programs. My quick comments: 1) Imagine if the Jetsons and the Flintstones invited their Dead Head buddies over. 2) Living there is a great and unique experience better than most living, but just by the nature of the place it has its limits, idepending on how your life interacts with those limits it can be great, or it can suck. For most people a year seemed good, then about 4-5 years seems to be the next hump, the one longer than that tend to stay and raise kids and stuff. 3) speaking of kids, I lived in other communities as well. All in all I would say community living seems GREAT for kids under 10. Once kids start approaching their teens, it starts getting very iffy, however I have a few friends who literally grew up at Arcosanti and they all look back on their childhood thre very fondly. 4) While Arco is hardly perfect, I can see the fingerprints Arcosanti has had for example: The Burton Barr Library in Phoenix was desigend by an arco alum. Architects Jon jerdi and Ken yeang were inspired by Paolo's work. I can tell you in the year 1999 there were NO schools in America with a sustainable design program, by 2010 every major university had one, and I know for a fact that is in LARGE part due to Arcosanti alumni. So while there are aspects of it that truly suck, the place is awesome, and is still impacting society around us in subtle ways. I'm not just saying that, keep your eyes open over teh next few years.

@haydenjgray

2 жыл бұрын

How to you apply to live there?

Growing your own food and building things from the ground up as a community is the best.

@MrAztek

5 жыл бұрын

Don’t be a smart ass

@jsweizston5410

5 жыл бұрын

Haha I laughed out loud at this. Remember when Vice actually used to actually JOURNALISM?! I miss those days when they were bad ass.. now it's just smelly hippies that make bells in their laboratory.

@ChrisYoungGunn

4 жыл бұрын

230% agree

@vIBEDoUT-Channel

2 жыл бұрын

yeah , you should also see auroville ☮

@stevens6968

Жыл бұрын

@@jsweizston5410 yeah, its way better when media exclusively reinforces the panera suburbs as if there was literally no other way of living to consider.

Commune is different from cult. You're not brainwashed to be there. It's your choice to take part in the community and have the experience you wish to have. They are not praising a person, they are immersing themselves in the culture & nature

@homersimpson3644

5 жыл бұрын

Unless that's what they want you to think. DUM DUM DUM

@maxgorden499

5 жыл бұрын

Until the leader turns all the members into their personal harem

@SidneyBeers

5 жыл бұрын

Free choice is an oxymoron, choice is per definition never free. You are always constrained by external circumstances and internal motivations, to quote Schoppenhauer there is nothing more determined than free will.

@Euclides287

5 жыл бұрын

If this was *1969,* they'd be praising Charles Manson.

@dancom3207

5 жыл бұрын

@@Euclides287 So, you're saying that every hippie commune in the 60s and 70s followed Charles Manson?

So a laboratory specializing in bronze bells and clay pots

@igitt426

5 жыл бұрын

lmao

@Voirreydirector

5 жыл бұрын

Dan -Horsenwelles- Williams bronze bells, clay pots, mud sided houses, much better stuff to leave behind for folks or whatever to find ages hence, as we find them from thousands of years ago today. Much more practical and almost as long lasting as much of what we create and consume today in the United States.

@krisgrimshaw6580

5 жыл бұрын

W

@terrorshark6836

5 жыл бұрын

We been making pots BC

@wereabouttoargueaintwe4582

5 жыл бұрын

I quit watching after about 3 minutes when I realized they‘re just abunch of hipsters that went into the dessert to claim they’re the peaceful civilization. Don’t worry I’m sure we’ll see them on the news in a few years when they decide to become a cult like most of these groups do.😂

When does the Netflix series premiere?

It's a modern commune. Which isn't inherently a bad thing, there's lots of experiments that can be done there, lots of stuff to learn and do. It can be nice for people who fits well in those sorts of jobs and for that type of living and culture. But ultimately, it fails to scale. And it can potentially go very wrong depending on the people who are there. What's the problem, you might ask. The same problem of every other commune that ever existed: you are either letting go of several modern conveniences and conventions, or you are necessarily taking funds from outside to keep things going. Or, as it is in the vast majority of cases, usually both. And yes, modern societies have a whole lot of problems in exchange for those conveniences and conventions, but they work specially for big cities and whatnot, and an arcology or commune like structure will never replace it. Another big problem is highlighted right close to the end of the video - it's a selective group. You have to bring something there to be accepted, and you probably need to fullfill some sort of role. If you can't, you're out. Which is super convenient, but not exactly how societies work. Most commune systems will only work up to a certain number of people (think tribes), with certain types of people, and much like tribes it can easily turn into a cult with the wrong leadership. It also usually has a very limited output, it cannot go past a certain technological level, and it cannot muster the level of research and development of modern societies - because that usually relies on global scale exchanges and contributions nowadays. What people living in communes usually get wrong is that they are serving as model for societies... it's more like they are a product of modern societies and they can only live because of them. I'm not saying it's wrong for them to do it, but to be more careful on what you preach. The two major sources of income I usually see in longstanding communes is some sort of artisanal production or stuff like organic farming, plus donations and an NGO setup or a funding for research and lab work setup, which can only be sustained by modern societies. Cut off all connections with modern societies, things start doing downhill super fast. They are also often reliant on stuff that only modern societies can keep up - electricity, Internet, modern pumbling, those solar panels, big screen TVs, the Pyrex jar the kid is using, the bench drill press they are using to make those bells, or several products of those industries. A whole ton of the architecture done in the place, the design work, vehicles these people drive, tools they use for work, and a bunch of other stuff involved simply cannot be done in a structure like one of those arcologies or communes in general. It's all dependant on mass production, modern industries that can only exist in modern society setups. It's great that people can live like that if they are happy there, and perhaps a better alternative for lots of people who are suffering in urban environments these days, but it is important not to become blind to the fact that they can only live like that if there is a modern society background to keep it up. It is a priviledge of sorts. So yeah.... on an individual level, sure. People can move in setups like arcologies and live pretty well if it fits their worldview. But no, this isn't a model of future societies. This is a model of how more people could live in the future, if modern societies continue to evolve and have enough resources to sustain that method of living. And it is highly dependant on the products of that modern societies that people in communes are often saying they left behind, or shunning in some way.

@harrykeogh5233

4 жыл бұрын

excellent summary, thank you.

@elizawulf8180

3 жыл бұрын

Think of it this way: communes could be a model to replace suburbs around cities, encouraging interaction and reducing environmental impact, and decentralize the power grid as city infrastructure changes to be more sustainable.

The video: alternative living style The comments: no one knows what a cult is

@djbigjavi66

5 жыл бұрын

that's how it starts then they will drink the cherry flavor kool aid.

@creativityhub1350

5 жыл бұрын

"Alternative living style"... that's what all cults say

@mr.jazzbodkelsey58

5 жыл бұрын

I kinda wanna join this cult! Beats Christianity any day

@Lhdsuicide

5 жыл бұрын

@@djbigjavi66 flavor-aid

@andyydna39

5 жыл бұрын

There is a vast difference between a cult and a commune.

Amazing architecture by Paolo Soleri. It’s common for architects to envision a utopian ideology but never ever be able to test it out ,so salute to Paolo for being brave enough to attempt a utopian commune

I actually wouldn’t mind living there. To be apart of a community like that would be a dream.

Wow this place is where i need to be. It is making my heart sing

@finalascent

4 жыл бұрын

Don't just think about it - go - either visit for a day, stay overnight in the Sky Suite, or take a workshop. I did Seminar Week back in Summer of 1995, and loved it. Visited in Spring 2012 for an overnight stay, and enjoyed reliving the memories.

Cool! Seems like a nice place with positive people. Don’t mind the haters in the comments.

Here we get a rare sighting of a wholesome vice video, once thaught extinct..

communal living at it's best, love it!

I have that book, I lucked upon it in an old dusty bookstore and I knew I found something fascinating. I had no idea there was a real place associated.

this all looks really good packaged as a 10 min minidoc, but why do i keep smelling bleach and surf wax

Once again there is a small, elderly, Japanese man at the center of all this.

@michael4576

3 жыл бұрын

Italian

My daughter did an internship at Arcosanti...it changed her life. If I win the lottery, I will give the money to them!

I went there back in the late 90s

People: *talks about sustainability* Video: *shows happy passionate people talking about sustainability* Sustainability:

Who are their main financial backers?

I wanted to live here for a while back in the '80s- '90s but never got the chance. I've never even visited. I'll have to get there soon.

very chill spot. can't wait to get back out there!

Please share the music used around 06:00 onwards, I need this.

I’ve been here it’s in Arizona really cool

Absolutely beautiful. I'm not sure though if I'd call the community self sustaining if they receive funds and food from the outside. I'm not sure about sustainability of the water source either.

This makes me want to watch that Futurama episode Obsolutely Fabulous

Hi! Serious question here, how does schooling work for kids from 5/6 to high school ?

I would love to check that place out sometime.

Can anyone provide the music/setlist?

Where do i sign up

I’d love to live in a place like this

The architecture is dope.

To do agriculture in a desert is about using grondwater that dosent reproduce itself fast enough. So its not really sustainable.

@ShiitakeWes

5 жыл бұрын

Then create a drought tolerant food forest. Shade preserves moisture and as soil conditions improve water holding capacity increases exponentially. Try looking at permaculture

@jlopez1017d

5 жыл бұрын

Southern CA is a desert environment we’ve been producing food for America for 100 years

@slimydick23

5 жыл бұрын

but the project isn't free, so they placed in an area where the land was nearly free, sacrifices are made

@LeahsLover

5 жыл бұрын

not true farmers in Mexico have been doing this for hundreds of years with less water than these people.

Very good journalism. Keep up the good work. Love from Islamabad Pakistan to the world🇵🇰

Looks quite cool

Wish I stumbled on that place before I got so domesticated.

Just beautiful! Going back to the iron/bronze age....but with machinery. Do you guys need TV’s though? Lovely community!🙏🏼❤️👍🏼🍀

What a beautiful world we live on That's the meaning of it after all 🌎

@Tormentality

5 жыл бұрын

Meaning? what is this meaning you speak of??

It's beautiful

I’ve probably attempted to make the hour trip out there 5 times now and I just keep failing. Maybe after this.

@MaseratiChris556

4 жыл бұрын

The TacomaKid you just did it so let me know 👍🏽

@MaseratiChris556

4 жыл бұрын

illyounotme thank you I was looking awhile back I see that they often host concerts and dinners out there I will need to look for one coming up!

This kind of shows a hint of what a not for profit society may look like, much more compelling for me than the current uber capitalistic one most of us live in.

Thats one of the communities in Fallout 4

Awesome and beautifull

I dont get the weird vibes of this being a cult, but i still do get some sort of weird vibes out of this. Is it the future? Is it some sort of experiment? Like from where do they get the funds to do all of this? Even by selling bells, who is funding them? How are these people staying and why do they choose to stay? What's going on behind doors? What do they learn in this place? SO MANY QUESTIONS

I also have a lab hidden in my room

@igitt426

5 жыл бұрын

lmaoo drop me a sample bro

luv the idea of paying homage to the Ancient Egyptian's through which Horus 👁 would be proud!!👌🙏

i used to intern for Paolo Soleri @ the cosanti foundation- it was all foundry work- cool as hell- paolo would usually be seen shirt off riding his bike in afternoon- i think at the time he was also giving discussions during the week, not sure though- one cool memory of that place of many was paolo sent his assistant over to me one afternoon and asked if i would mind if he asked to paint a nude pic of my gf at the time!? damn i miss that gal

That’s the Vice I like

6:23 well, i was born in november 1994. easy math. 24 years.

I actually love this ...this is how we all should live growing our own food staying in peaceful place and working to help our community 😩✨💕☀️

@vIBEDoUT-Channel

2 жыл бұрын

yeah ☮

Tim Bell! Articulate and kind! Arcosanti is a great place! Visit!

Puscifer rocked this joint! Much love!

6:55 well, you are living in the dessert. That's why you are isolated in the first place

Dope

i miss the old vice

Hello everybody welcome to my world

@TheBic4

5 жыл бұрын

TOP 10 BUZZ PRANK COMPILATION what?

Do they have internet though?

@taylourcourtland1302

5 жыл бұрын

yes

Soooo an artist commune

Can I come?

I did my workshop in March 1996 and stayed an extra month. Went back for an additional 6 months in 1998. Through the decades, I find it amazing how much of an impact those experiences shaped me, even though it only comprised of 8 months of my existence.

I seriously wanna start my own commune in the woods somewhere. Just live and work together and support one another. Try to be as self-sustaining as possible.

COOL

A classic hippie commune with skills still in existence. Cool.

@michaelmccarthy4615

5 жыл бұрын

@illyounotme true. More like a commune with urban goals, education and skills to promote sustainability. Nix the hippie part.

This seems like a cutscene and level from Hitman 2

What type of lab?? In which desert??? Obviously not important.

@danbrown1344

5 жыл бұрын

ReaptheWhirlwind I’m sorry but are you illiterate? 1:53

Ive Been there

fucking awesome

Best base for apocalypse?

So y'all want to be amish but with technology lol

@dancom3207

5 жыл бұрын

Well that wouldn't be Amish it all, would it? I think what you thinking of is Mennonites.

@HazeGreyAndUnderway

5 жыл бұрын

I mean, that's more realistic and socially friendly than being Amish these days. You don't have to cut yourself off from the rest of the world as much.

Somebody please explain to me how this is a cult

This place is 99 percent invisible.

Sounds really cool. Especially when you're a community that gets to choose whose allowed to live amongst you. It said you can only be a resident if you can bring a special skill. I'm not hating but if certain people said that same thing it could be painted contrary to beautiful and progressive.

Basically a monastery, Catholics and Eastern Orthodox monks/nuns have been doing this for 2000 years roughly.

when experimenting with the success of a certain community you can't judge success without considering how people who choose not to live in that community would react. Someone who lives and chooses to live in a traditional, per se, the city would react completely differently to this type of society than someone who chooses to live here. Availability biased... just consider it when you view this

Whatever happened to the prototype city built into one giant mega structure that Soleri was advocating at Arcosanti? It's like 0.1% ever actually got built. Just saying. Not being judgmental.

@danopticon

4 жыл бұрын

Norman Mattson - I believe it’s still being built, just slowly. (Think of Antoni Gaudí, and his _Sagrada Familia_ cathedral, construction for which began in Barcelona in 1882… and is ongoing!) There are other Arcosanti videos on KZread, and some of them elaborate a little further on the envisioned timeline. While I’m anxious to see the finished project too (although how do we know when a city is finished?) I imagine a city - meaning a community, not just buildings - has to be developed somewhat slowly, especially one that’s a sort of work-share community, so that ideas can germinate into ideals and then into a solid community ethos. I’m frankly interested in planting the seeds of a city myself, I have a location, but it’s in a totally different climate than Arizona’s and would require some radically different solutions in order to reach similar fruition.

It seems like one of those utopistic socialist villages back at the beginning of socialism itself... Kinda cool actually.

Cumbaya

Vice headquarter

@HazeGreyAndUnderway

5 жыл бұрын

Vice headquarters is in nyc, ya big dummy

A laboratory or an art studio???

I know someone who goes to a music festival there every year to do acid and listen to shitty music. I didn’t know it was a community like this, hopefully it doesn’t get ruined like burning man

No One: Me: Well, I know where I'm headed when the zombie apocalypse happens

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The should work with the earthship people

I can see Tempe hippies flooding this place.

@HazeGreyAndUnderway

5 жыл бұрын

God I hope not. This kind of living is an important outlook into what the future might actually look like and deserves critical thinking, not just mindless occupation by hippies lol. Peace and love to you hippies though, don't be *too* lazy.

Am I the only one that's scared of this? I don't even know why lol, it looks nice lol

I bet everything in my wallet if this urban laboratory gets enough fame it will turn into a resort and become what they aim not to become.

@ma-burke

5 жыл бұрын

A la capitalistic end-point greed. The sociology of human impulse. With growth, they're bound to face the challenge indeed.

@Weiss_____line

5 жыл бұрын

"sponsored by Marriott"

Where are the old people? What happens to them when they get Very old, near death? Very important to know what happens to octogenarians. I don’t see any nursing homes or a mortuary.

@HazeGreyAndUnderway

5 жыл бұрын

Jesus, really diving into the deep end with these questions here lol. Small steps man, there are like only a handful of people there.

@Steve-ib4yw

4 жыл бұрын

@Tim Bell The "reality of living in a community" is to be kicked out when you become too much of a burden on the community, that's harsh.

Next waco texas

Ya see the problem is the world can't operate a bunch of small communes.

Thanks a lot vice for something good. Dunno how many times I’ve been on edge of unsubscribing.

You know vice in in bad shape when BUZZ FEED of all things made a better video than vice on a subject LOL

Pretty easy to have a tribal utopia when you're able to select your residents based on the needs of the community. It's like a small scale communism. Gotta wonder, if someone turns into a deadbeat, is there a tribal meeting where their flame gets snuffed?

@joecramp2987

5 жыл бұрын

So what does the rest of society do with deadbeats? Leave them to rot on the streets? What do you think tribes used to do pre civilisation? They looked after a person and helped them to get back on their feet, that's what community is for, when you know that homeless "deadbeat", you don't leave them to rot because you care for them. By what your saying, is it better in a capitalist society to just let the disabled, mentally ill, and elderly die? That's the most economically productive method.

@neeneko

5 жыл бұрын

That tends to be the dark side of intentional communities... you tend to end up with defacto leaders who decide who is in and who is out, even when they are officially democratic. So getting kicked out or not really ends up depending on how much the people with influence like you.

@MrCsheller

5 жыл бұрын

@Joe Cramp: Not saying to leave them out in the streets. There's a critical mass point where the deadbeats could drag the productive down having to take care of them. It'd be impractical for say a 1:5 productive :care-needing in any society. It really touches on Utilitarianism. If one's worth is only measured by their productivity in the commune, then it's a much shorter leash to shape up or ship out. I'd be willing to bet they don't have any severely handicapped or heroine addicts living here.

So basically modern hippies but instead of bead selling they sell bronze bells and clay pots...😂😂

@HazeGreyAndUnderway

5 жыл бұрын

Way more useful

I thought it would be a cool laboratory researching base in the desert, but it's just a hippie town? No idea why they called it laboratory but okay. It's not bad, there are many places in the world like this, but I was expecting more, like making their own clothes from scratch and stuff, making their own wool etc. Skills like that are so cool to see, but it was an alright video. Still find it ridiculous that the title says laboratory when it's just a living space selling pots and bells

Id love to live there it's a bit like a hipster heaven

Bunch of people here don't know the difference between a cult and community.

@cybercat1531

5 жыл бұрын

Often a fine line to distinguish the details.

@cybercat1531

5 жыл бұрын

Either way this ain't my kinda thing, don't like the vibe of pretentiousness it gives off.

@zedlovin2612

5 жыл бұрын

Cyber Cat pretty sure people who are saying cult are doing it as trolling pretty obvious

@zedlovin2612

5 жыл бұрын

Dreamstate people actually thinking they are serious is worse

@creativityhub1350

5 жыл бұрын

That's what all cults say

I stole a merriot bonvoy black card when i worked at the sheraton. Looks like I know where im going.

I can smell the Patchouli from here.

So what happens when they need a doctor or a dentist. When they need surgery or get a really bad cut? Do they have to drive 90 minutes? How do the people afford new clothes socks under ware, shoes, a toothbrush or feminine products? I still have so many questions.