Good call on Steel Hellkite. This card is undervalued as it can just eradicate all of a players tokens if it gets a hit in. I prefer Moltensteel Dragon as my Shivan alternative as I can dump my mana and/or life in to close out a game. Swinging with just this and the aforementioned Hellkite can ruin the day of someone with loads of treasure and/or squirrel tokens, though Silumgar also helps with the latter.

You can target artificial evolution on to scion of the ur dragon's to make it another creature type then you can use cards like progenitus or eldrazi cards to make scion into a copy of each turn. You can basically make it an ultimate graveyard in to library combo

Wonderfulllllll! I will upload an updated profile of my deck as well! I can't wait for Commander Legends 2! Deck is going to change in theme big time when that comes out. The converted mana cost keeps going up with all these new beefy boys. With the new mono black brass dragon I think ill shift off tokens for good. There ll be so many 7 drops I think ill justt focus more on recursion and spamming for reduced cost.....more treasure focus too for sure haha

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

I definitely want to check out the video from the Ur-dragon bling master. Question, do you prefer having more different dragons or having more tutors and just the set of super powerful ones?

@Lv5SuperTuba

2 жыл бұрын

@@vex_mtg I think the center of my deck is becoming more centered around Morophon and Moonveil Regent. Cost reduction card draw for the ability to play a ton of dragons on one turn. So Im trying to switch to having more "two color and up" dragons. I gate cutting mono red dragons but especially with Niv mizzet Reborn it's fighting what I want to do.

@Lv5SuperTuba

2 жыл бұрын

@@vex_mtg as for tutors...I've definitely leaned away from them. mostly because I try to keep all my decks unique (apart from sol ring, mana crypt, and demonic tutor) So my vampiric/enlightened tutor etc are in other decks. But I feel like it makes decks too similar. If there were more in-theme tutors like Scion and Tiamat, I'd be all for it. Tiamat is a good tool box for different match-ups, but being 7 right out of the gate with a cast trigger gets countered too much for me as a commander. That's why I like Moonveil Regent so much, if I can run smaller dragons that move the deck along I'll gladly take out a tutor. I think Vampiric actually came out for him.

I took Karrthus out of my deck when I realized how many popular commander decks have cards to steal your creatures. If you have Karrthus on the field, with a bunch of other dragons, your opponent only have to steal Karrthus to steal ALL your dragons. Including Ur Dragon it you have him on the field as well. Worse still. I once played against a friend who was able to look for a creature card in my deck and play it without mana cost. So I didn't even have Karrthus on the field but he was still able to steal all my dragons. In my opinion that card is far to large of a liability for the effect it gives. If he had a third effect like giving all your dragons vigilance or something. I would perhaps reconsider. But as is, its way to risky to play him in a dragon tribal. 2 more additions I would reccommend is first of all Miirym. Because he's insanely cheap to cast with your eminence discount and he makes a copy of ANY non token dragon when it etb's. Including the Ur Dragon. So you effectively get 2 Ur Dragons meaning your commander is somewhat semi-protected from removal. I mean the token is not your commander so commander damage doesn't count, but it still has all the same abilities. And I also really like Rith, Liberated Primeval. Again, very cheap to cast with the commander discount, has ward 2. But more importantly, gives all your dragons ward 2 as well. Which make them just a little bit harder to get rid of individually. Especially early game.

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Not sure if it was in the video but I was thing of adding ramos dragon engine and scion of draco, would it be a good idea?

Another great card for this deck would be Lurking Predators ! Nasty

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

That indeed is a nasty card, I keep forgetting about it, thanks for the heads up.

Yoooo! you didn't pay for urzas incubator! JUDGE!!! ^_^ Thank you for your insight tho. I'm building an Ur-Dragon Deck right now and every bit of expirience and knowlege is highly appreciated, since i'm a fairly new player.

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

I did miss that, oops. Good luck with your deck building, The Ur-Dragon is a sweet tribal deck.

Will we be seeing an inalla or a arahbo deck tech soon? Since you have a edgar and ur dragon deck tech already.

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

If there are Cats and Wizards that come out in future sets, maybe.

Hi. Nice vid. I also saw your Tiamat build. I based my Tiamat deck off of yours. Which deck in your opinion is stronger? Which one do you prefer playing?

@vex_mtg

Жыл бұрын

I think Miirym is the strongest, but Tiamat is better than the Ur-Dragon because it tutors 5 times. I prefer playing the Ur-Dragon because there's more variety in games, with Tiamat you are usually tutoring for the best dragons you have.

I had to stop after the profile but I will watch the gold-fishing later tonight. I promise to gold fish in my video next time! I was too nervous last time hahaha

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see you goldfish the deck, so shiny!

@Lv5SuperTuba

2 жыл бұрын

@@vex_mtg finished the video! wonderful deck dude

I love Your decks, do you have recently updated the kalamax decklist?

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support. Unfortunately, I took Kalamax apart, I keep the Pako/Haldan deck for my Temur deck.

@SwoDrake

2 жыл бұрын

@@vex_mtg thanks

Did Baldurs gate bring along many/any updates for you in this deck?

do you have a five color angel deck on this channel at all?

Should you put in Miiryum Sentine wyrm now? Or would it be good?

@vex_mtg

Жыл бұрын

Definitely, that card is INSANE!

how about adding Urzas Filter? 4cmc ''Multicolored spells cost 2 less to play''

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

I would usually rather run generic ramp.

You never tapped mana for urza incubator.

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

Super correct, it sorta tapped then untapped, oops.

@haydenbennett3547

2 жыл бұрын

That card is $40 now lol Glad i picked Commander Anthology 2 way back xD

Is like chromatic orrey not a great card for this deck ?

Take kamagachi out of the deck. I loved that infinite combo at the end. And I feel like you should always search for scion of the ur dragon. My personal favorite way to use it is copy a dragon that has a "when another dragon attacks" phrase and then right before you deal combat damage copy the dragon that gives double strike.

when I saw the price for Tiamat I about had a heart attack, but then I saw it was just for a one of the options lol

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the ampersand one is really expensive.

@DragonProtector

2 жыл бұрын

@@vex_mtg i saw that version for $80 once. Man I regret not buying it

How fast is the deck? I'm afraid that EDH is quite fast these days & that a 5 color Dragon deck will be too slow.

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

It's not that fast, but it doesn't need to be, you have insane top end that other decks have a hard time competing with. If you get Old Gnawbone out, then all bets off, the deck can explode.

@anyname4306

2 жыл бұрын

@@vex_mtg But everyone will perceive you as threat, won't they? I guess Gnawbone would instantly eat a removal spell, since this card is broken.

Gotta say it feels like you're missing some cards and putting in cards that are unnecessary or have better options. I get what you're trying to do and this feels just like my original Ur-Dragon deck, but several things can be added to increase its overall power and sustainability.

Putting my ancient copper dragon and revel of riches into my ur dragon deck muahaha

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely, that dragon is insane!

your missing some cards for artifacts. Like dragon something that allows for 2 uncolored mana place or cast 1 multi colored dragon

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

It's hard to find room for everything, I tend to run less artifacts than most because of mass artifact removal.

@DragonProtector

2 жыл бұрын

@@vex_mtg true

Turn 7 didn't tap mana to play the artifact

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct, super misplay!

the 1 mana less is a goblin ! GOBLIN GANG

@vex_mtg

Жыл бұрын

Indeed.

vex-so slippery I can't even hold it me-...hehe that's what she said

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

I thought about saying that, but I held back a little. I'm glad someone did.

No arcane signet, but a dragon's hoard... 🤣

@vex_mtg

Жыл бұрын

It's on theme, it's a way of deck building expression.

you never paid the mana for urzas incubator

you need whip of erabos

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

It's so hard to find space in these 5 color tribal decks.

@DragonProtector

2 жыл бұрын

@@vex_mtg yea trust me. Ik. 😭. I love all my dragons but its hard to do anything. Ppl keep saying i need ramp. I have put some in my deck. Its 100 cards! Yet they expect me to always draw it.

I think for a dragon deck there are too many boardwhipes in the deck.

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

Possibly, but sometimes you need a good board wipe to reset the board.

I prefer miirym

Demonic tutor is banned in Commander

@vex_mtg

Жыл бұрын

Hmmm, I’m not sure that is a true statement.

I would make one friendly suggestion: slow down when speaking, and annunciate more clearly. No need for the video to feel rushed, like you are just trying to get it over with, and you probably want people to be able to clearly understand you without having to skip back and listen again with CC on to try to understand. You seem to have a lot of good info and other things going for you, but making it hard for your audience to understand you, and feeling like you are a kid rushing through a presentation because you hate speaking in front of the class, is working against you. Anyway, I hope the advice helps, and you continue to improve your skills. Good luck! Hope you don't mind constructive criticism, lol; I really am just hoping to help you be better understood by others (including me lol).

There’s one dragon that is so under appreciated in most tech decks or deck building videos and that’s Sun Schorch Reagent I mean you can have a 15-15 dragon by the time it’s your second turn and lands are spells so makes him a beast very very quick I run a Kaalia deck so he’s a staple in my deck for sure.

@v1rtualv1k1ng

Жыл бұрын

Lands are NOT spells

@cameronmes4046

Жыл бұрын

@@v1rtualv1k1ng sun scorch been putting work in on his playgroup XD

the ur dragon female

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know that, I apologize to the Dragon Queen.

@DragonProtector

2 жыл бұрын

@@vex_mtg Ya not many know as literally everything keeps thinking dragons are male when they can be male and or female or both. Its hard to tell indeed. But there are hints though barely any. She birthed literally all the dragons we know. (well ugin and uh whats his name plus some others) then they kinda spread out from there. Ur dragon hidden away in multiverse kept safe from danger and watching over all. I do hope they reprint her even make new art. But who knows.

@vex_mtg

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for enlightening me, I'll refer to the Ur-Dragon as the mother of all dragons.

@DragonProtector

2 жыл бұрын

@@vex_mtg yes. Yw! Also im wondering since history was rewritten by sarkhan in dragons of tarkir. What it would be like if it didn't happen.