The Unused and Cut Video Game Content Iceberg Explained (Part 2)
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The Unused and Cut Video Game Content Iceberg Explained (Part 2)
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@mmmapplesauce1673
2 жыл бұрын
no
@DawnLynnCat
2 жыл бұрын
No, but part 3 needs a correction about Pocket monsters.
@blackbrainz
2 жыл бұрын
no no I won't be doing that...
@KubickQ
2 жыл бұрын
The zapinator wasn't removed for copyright reasons, it actually was removed in favor of having two separate zapinators, a gray one and and orange one, for different stages of progression. They both function the same, and are very cool and unique weapons, and the original I believe is still on the 3DS version of Terraria
@cjpk6843
2 жыл бұрын
Hard pass
i think the capsule monsters segment was in reference to the first ideas for pokemon red and green, im pretty sure that was its original name
@BabyCharmander
2 жыл бұрын
That's definitely what it was referring to. There's tons of unused Pokemon designs from the early concepts.
@memelord2568
2 жыл бұрын
Pocket monsters was the original name
@DawnLynnCat
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Capsule Monsters was the early name for Pokemon.
@takanamoon9907
2 жыл бұрын
Sourcebrew thinking Capsule Monsters was Yu-Gi-Oh! Gave me fatal psychic damage. *Not even Flex Tape can fix my brain after this*
@memelord2568
2 жыл бұрын
@Lillie Exists oh
As much as I adore your videos, I can't help but think you should show more stuff instead of just talking about it. Like for example, you said there was an unused lever underneath that area in Bloodborne, and talked about the punk clique in Bully appearing in the comic strip, but didn't actually show these things. It would add a lot to show images of these types of stuff. I understand how much work goes into editing a video this long, but I think it would really improve your work 😁
@renbelmont
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this, also with cut sounds and songs I wish you played those
@YourInternetHistory676
2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same
@beanieweenie1349
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was thinking that to
@travistreadway3180
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who loves bully as a game I wish the punks were used even if they were just reskined townies
@dxnixble
2 жыл бұрын
Fear God g
Something you should know about Scarecrow from Manhunt...it says that Scarecrow's real name is "Kenneth Jesperson" and he was "formerly the head hunter amongst the Smileys". Well there was a real life serial killer named Keith Jesperson (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Hunter_Jesperson) and he was known as the "Happy Face Killer". Maybe that was a bit too close for comfort?
7:49 Umm.... That's not concept art from Super Mario Odyssey. That's fanart (the original obviously wouldn't mention Wonderwall in plain English). The original concept art resembles the artwork from the storybook found in Super Mario Galaxy.
@rubysu9265
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was wondering why that was... hopefully OP realises this and credits the artist
@hansmoleman2666
2 жыл бұрын
@@rubysu9265 Man what an absurd take away from that, fuck the artist, they can rot, the real problem is that we didn't see this original concept art.
this isn’t on the actual iceberg but i wanna share something that me and a couple of other people found about a month ago Blur (2010) - Removed Story Mode Blur was a racing game released in 2010, developed by Bizarre Creations and published by Activision. The game is an arcade street racing game with the inclusion of power-ups, similar to Mario Kart. Although review scores were high, the game sold poorly, leading to the development team being disbanded and a sequel to the game canceled. In early footage of the game and in interviews, other characters you would race against would interact with the player, commenting on the player’s actions. According to some developer interviews, these characters were meant to appear in a story mode for the game, which would have followed the player’s adventures into the underground street racing scene. However, when the game was released, all of this was suddenly removed. A PS3 build of the game meant for debugging was acquired by fans, who proceeded to look into this build’s files. It was a mostly innocuous debug build for testing, but in a folder called “attachments”, a slew of these never before seen cutscenes intended for the cut story mode were found, with their audio fully intact. As well, the lines your opponents would say in races were also found. Interestingly, a text file for early credits found in the build’s files listed all of the actors who played the roles, including the likes of Nolan North, Yuri Lowenthal and Robin Atkin Downes. According to former developers, this story mode was cut very late as Activision wanted to place more focus and work on the game’s online multiplayer. It seems the story mode was basically complete, however a developer has stated that some cutscenes are still missing, namely ones taking place in San Francisco. video - kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIqoxdCjoJnLZrA.html
@BimbusBobus
2 жыл бұрын
*scratches chin* *raises eyebrow* hmm how interesting
@base4yrface
2 жыл бұрын
glad to see some blur love
@d5rcy
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds about activision.
@theguywhofoundwaldoo7939
Жыл бұрын
Cool, no one cares
7:55 uhh. I’m fairly certain that’s fanart. There is concept art of rosalina like that, yes, but this pic is not it lol
- The reason the freeze hazard was removed from LittleBigPlanet was because the only way for the player to break free was to rapidly shake the PS3 controller, which was considered by Media Molecule to be inconvenient to the player if they were frozen multiple times, and the freeze effect caused issues with the build's framerate, and they would've worsened in online maps.
I, for one, would be totally into watching a video centered around the Manhunt games. There's so much to explore not only in the games themselves, especially Manhunt 2, but also the public reaction to the games.
I’m liking this iceberg so far! I enjoy your voice and commentary. Only criticism is that I wish you would show a bit of said lost content more, like some of the audio files for some of the assets, or some more clips/screenshots for them, but anyways, keep up the good work!
30:27 they confirmed they’re adding alternative costumes in the next update so it’s not cut content anymore
hey i really appreciate what you're trying to do here, but i think this is a downgrade from the previous video- it's clear that you didn't do enough research for certain topics, and it really starts to show during some sections. like, the soul scythe wasn't removed because it's a reference to soul eater, and the zapinator wasn't removed "for obvious reasons." i know you might not be familiar with these games you're discussing but it'd be nicer if you took more time to get your facts straight. the biggest mistake was easily the capsule monsters section- yes there's a yu-gi-oh game named capsule monsters, but i would have made it *very* clear if it was yu-gi-oh related- granted i didn't specify it was a pokemon concept, but what you did felt like a stretch to me. the editing has also become more lackluster, as the video don't showcase a lot of what should be shown (like showing fanart of rosalina instead of the actual concept art, or not showing smb1's concept art of yoshi). i don't want to come off as super negative towards someone making a video about my iceberg- i appreciate that you're doing it at all- but i have to say im disappointed with what you're doing right now, and i hope the next part picks up the slack that i felt this video had. thank you and i hope you have a nice day.
@rubysu9265
2 жыл бұрын
^^^^^^
@josephmother386
2 жыл бұрын
Zamn
@cjpk6843
2 жыл бұрын
Get em
I feel like your videos would be a lot better if you took the effort to actually show everything you're talking about. When you're talking about unused animations, play them on screen. When you're talking about concept art for 3 characters, show all 3 instead of just one. When what you're talking about is a scene that has actual footage, play it, instead of just showing a screenshot. As they are, your videos just feel like lazily put together "tell, don't show" slideshows, which is a shame since your research skills and narration style are very good.
Do you edit your own videos, or do you have someone else edit them for you? I noticed this for Part 1 as well, but often you’ll have things in your script that imply something should be onscreen or in the video to accompany it that are just missing. Stuff like showing fan art of Odyssey Rosalina instead of the actual concept art, talking about the water monster sound files in RDR2 without playing the actual sound file, mentioning Edgeworth’s design being way more different than other early Ace Attorney designs but neglecting to even show it etc. That’s not to mention some things lacking in proper research; people have already pointed out that ‘Capsule Monsters’ was definitely in reference to Pokemon and not YGO. Maybe for future videos, try asking some people to proofread your scripts and/or proof-watch your videos?
@Isaacfess
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I noticed a lot of discrepancies too.
@Chalkzye
2 жыл бұрын
Someone else
That thumbnail is a work of art
1:02:50 Mexico's part of North America. Also, Rouge's name isn't pronounced like "rogue."
Something to note: "Dragon King" is a mistranslation. The original Japanese title was Kakuto-Gemu *Ryuo*. The "Ryuo" was what was mistranslated to "Dragon King". However, Ryuo actually refers to a town in Japan. The very same town that's seen in the background of the scant few screenshots we have.
I like you narration alot man, but you really need to start showing onscreen the stuff you talk about. It gets frustating after a while. Also, like other people pointed out, there some topics that you need to do some more researching upon before adressing it (like how Capsule Monsters was actually the concept that became Pokémon). Other than that, your videos are pretty good.
Funny enough, they did use the "Sonic has a band" idea with one of the cartoons named Sonic Underground.
Thanks for doing the second part! Can't wait to dive into its contents.
1:45 iceberg begins
"This character Nails was the original version of " *Rouge* " the Bat." God...that made my eye twitch.
@AStrangerOnTheInternet
Жыл бұрын
I feel you. What's worse is that I hear people very familiar in playing the game still refer to her as 'Rogue' as well and I just get one step closer to an aneurysm every time I hear it. It's like "you heard the characters call her by name, why do you still say a different word altogether!?"
I love Chris seavor saying they cut the conker ending cause it just didn't set up a sequel lol
Hooter was probably cut from donkey Kong country in favor of squawks the parrot. The restaurant name wouldn’t mean anything
Love your videos sourcebrew! Keep up the good work
*great way to start the week!*
Good to have you back!
No offense, but it would have been better to use the actual concept art of Odyssey Rosalina instead of the fan art.
I think "Capsule Monsters" was probably referring to the original name for Pokemon
22:59 it's "plus-l" and "mai-nuhn". Their named after plus and minus as in a battery or magnet.
I was waiting for this!!!
3:27 speaking as someone who has played terraria for the past few years, ide like to clear a little thing up The First Fractal if I recall correctly was a early version of the xenith specifically, which was connected in part to the terrablade The Zapinator was in the game, but correctly was taken out eventually, but actually in turn was replaced with 2 similar guns that looked the exact same.
Part 2 is finally here!
Hell yeah, time to keep this good thing a rolling!
Shocked that the cut ending cinematic/other cut content from metal gear solid 2 hasn’t appeared yet on the list. I haven’t seen the full iceberg so maybe it appears later but it’s definitely interesting and explains a lot of the weirdness of that games cutscenes and ending.
So I'm 99% sure the Scarecrows name in Manhunt, Kenneth Jeperson, is a reference to real serial killer Keith Jeperson aka The Smiley Face Killer...
Yo let's go. I was waiting for this one!
41:24 The Crocodile would later go on to become Vector The Crocodile.
yesss I've been waiting for this!! :)
I’m very sure “Capsule Monsters” refers to Pokémon in its earliest iteration.
I Hope the iceberg includes cut or unused content from the Oddworld series. Like the Meeches not being extinct and having their own level similar to the Paramites and Scrabs, the cut side plot in Munchs Oddysee where Molluck the Glukkon is put on trial by the Glukkon Queen Lady Margaret, Munch’s hulk-like Roid alter ego, even entire games or game concepts like Hand of Odd, Slave Circus and Squeeks Oddysee.
As a Japanese speaker, I do believe the information you got on Terios the Hedgehog is wrong. The claim that he was based on concept art seems to be from the Sonic Fandom wiki, and only cites back to concept art and claims by the concept designer that have nothing to do with the Terios character. The only information I can find in Japanese on his creation is from a KZread stream done this year by Kazuyuki Hoshino in which he says that the character was based on the Oni design of Kabuki makeup: a traditional style of Japanese dance where people dressed up with extravagant makeup and costumes and dance to reenact stories from Shinto legend. This style of makeup also inspired the Fierce Deity mask in Majora's Mask, and that "fierce deity" term I think adequately describes the oni for western audiences. It's a kind demon, or a fierce deity that lived on mountaintops in Shinto fable. Kind-hearted, but intimidating. I'll reply to this comment with a link to the video as YT tends to eat my comments otherwise Further, Terios is not a word in Japanese. It doesn't even follow the Japanese pronounciation scheme. There are very few ending vowels, whereas all words in Japanese are comprised of subunits ending in vowels.
@jackeldridge1319
2 жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zal4zNiHqt2wlLQ.html is the video in which Hoshino mentions this. For non-Japanese speakers, switch on subtitles and look for "歌舞伎メイク", this is the only reference to Shadow's character creation I could find that is reliable. Most information on Shadow on the Japanese internet is just straightup rule 34 and I don't wanna go back there anymore for obvious reasons, yuck
Good video but i really think you should actually show the lost content you are talking about if its available. Real disappointing to not get to actually hear or see the content you are talking about.
The body shape of elh was used as a boss fight in pikman. It's one of the bosses that can appear when replaying the first level
Jeff Hardy missing from here comes the pain is an absolute travesty. I can't wait for part 3. Also nice to see someone else who really likes manhunt.
@c.j.4180
2 жыл бұрын
I hope Benoit getting replaced by Stevie Richards gets a mention, since that's still a surviving meme in wrestling fandom to this day.
@crashharty
2 жыл бұрын
@@c.j.4180 that's not lost media though
@jlonmims3232
2 жыл бұрын
@@crashhartyThis might not be real I think there’s a built of svr 2008 with Chris Benoit in it
@crashharty
2 жыл бұрын
@@jlonmims3232 sadly there isn't, the final roster was decided after Benoit died, and THQ immediately removed him without even consulting WWE. rumor has it he was going to have red tights. The crossface can be hacked in with a GameShark and his diving headbutt logo is still used for the high flyer logo. His character slot is still in if you hack it you'll find an unusable character slot with his overall and stats.
@jlonmims3232
2 жыл бұрын
@@crashharty Ah ok but I another unused character from hctp was ultimate warrior they had made his character model and added his move set but then Warrior sued them then they had removed the model and his moves Edit: I forgot to mention that he was also on REALLY bad terms with wwe
22:58 the way Plusle and Minun are pronounced made me irrationaly angry. Like its pretty obvious they are a plus and a minus
Hearing that battle damage was supposed to be in brawl but later removed would be surprising but also not really due to how in my opinion most of the character were given a bit of realistic looks in their models
They're going to add the costumes in Nick All Star Brawl. It's also not fair to call the content unused. Most of it just isntm't finished because Nick wouldn't delay the game.
Half-life 2 cut content could make an entire new game just because there is so much
ah yes because we all know capsule monsters is yugioh
3:10 The first fractal was added in 1.4 and was supposed to be an upgrade of the terra blade That upgrade would later become the zenith
Let's go part 2!!!
Iceberg videos with this quality are rare to find, keep up the great work
Off to part three.
Video on the manhunt series would rock!
30:00 i have the feeling a potion that caused nausea could be interpreted as alcohol
I thought the other subjects in baldi were cut because there wasn't time for them in the gamejams time limit? That's why a sign says "Sorry, too busy to make more subjects"
The ball in Sonic 1 doesn’t really go unused. Robotnik uses the same texture for the ball as a wrecking ball in his first Boss fight.
Great video, even if there are many errors haha (but thats gonna happen when you talk about this much stuff). For instance, Half Life: Decay wasn't exactly an expansion pack. It was meant to be, but it was included as an extra on the PS2 port but never released officially on PC as an expansion pack due to conflicts between Gearbox, Sierra and VALVE (lots of drama between those 3 at the time due to VALVE trying to buy back the Half Life IP).
@novelezra
2 жыл бұрын
Also fans didn't do the 'new' design for Terios the hedgehog. Thats the design from the concept art by Sega.
@novelezra
2 жыл бұрын
Also there is concept art of early Rogue the Bat. "Nails the Bat".
Capsule monsters is the cut name of Pokémon.
Rogue the Bat...
Unless I just crossed timelines I'm pretty sure the Mann Vs Machine mode in TF2 wasn't cancelled
@unusedscreedican
2 жыл бұрын
i don’t think means the mode itself was cancelled it was other features that were gonna be in the mode but were removed
@codexsquid
2 жыл бұрын
I think it was just a phrasing error, he probably meant the unused animations for MvM were cancelled.
I had no idea there was a yugioh capsule monsters game in the first place
Just watched the first part yesterday
Oh man, I wish that was in A Hat in Time. The game is already excellent, but that could've added so much. Maybe in a sequel, fingers crossed
Your pronunciation of “Pokémon” hurts me on a physical level.
Her name is Rouge, as in the makeupor the place Baton Rouge. not Rogue.
Amusing to see Red Dead have unused content, considering they've provided zero content for it's online mode lmao.
@HermioneGLuna1
Жыл бұрын
It was technically, but replaced with two different guns with the same name + similar appearance.
I think Isle Delfino could have been meant as just a reference. I could be wrong though.
Is this a video or powerpoint presintation. Not trying to be toxic but sometimes you just tell us about something and do not show it! still love ur content but i see it can be better. (sorry for bad english)
We lost battle damage in brawl but they added the slipping mechanic 🙄
i forgot there was gonna be a part 2
I think capsule monster refers too the beta version of pokemon red and green/blue
@AzureRoxe
2 жыл бұрын
Isn't Pocket Monsters their original name?
@BabyCharmander
2 жыл бұрын
@@AzureRoxe No, it was Capsule Monsters to start.
@jlonmims3232
2 жыл бұрын
@@BabyCharmander Yeah Pokémon is short for Pocket Monsters so Capsule Monsters was the original name for Pokémon
33:29 In all my delves into Undertale secrets and unused content I have never run into this guy. Ya learn something new every day!
@beanieweenie1349
2 жыл бұрын
Really? He's pretty well known
@joshshrum2764
2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a earthbound reference since you fight a similar looking robot in the mayors building, which the runaway five have to step in to help you beat, but i do agree that Mettaton, overshadowed him, because come on who’s a better robot, than the fabulous gay robot himself.
@joshshrum2764
2 жыл бұрын
@@beanieweenie1349 I’m a Undertale, obsessed person, but i have never really heard about him, since i mainly heard about Gaster, and unused dog enemy, but not the other robot guy, but it may have been mentioned in the Undertale, iceberg i just can’t remember.
@beanieweenie1349
2 жыл бұрын
@@joshshrum2764 I think it was, but yeah he's pretty forgettable
i honestly forgot that ridley and piranha plant were in ultimate 😅
I thought that the modern-day version of MKWII’s Mission Mode was a mod that brought back the mission mode levels
17:08 man vs machine is in the game. It is my favorite mode
Thank you again sir for the wonderful content.
That's not why dinosaur planet became starfox adventure. That's only a very very small reason why. The main reason is because they didn't think it was going to sell and they wanted a game to release closer to the gamecube launch so they decided last minute to slap star fox into it.
@joshshrum2764
2 жыл бұрын
He’s just making assumptions he isn’t saying why exactly.
@originalkingdomhearts
2 жыл бұрын
@@joshshrum2764 No duh, like that wasn't obvious. It's pretty clear he is making an assumption, and I'm clarifying that with facts.
Smash Bros battle damage was actually revisited and given to one character: Little Mac
Why am i seeing first to second frame static noises from Manhunt 2.
Ploosul and Minin
Def do cut manhunt content bro
MGSV final mission is just the original Metal Gear
iirc, mr friendly had that name was because he was supposed to breed the player if you know what i mean
That prometheus art is actually from batman Arkham asylum, hes a character file you can find.
I was disappointed in him for not mentioning the Wonderwall joke on the Rosalina concept art.
@MikeIbarraBass
2 жыл бұрын
However he may not have gotten it, maybe it's just a guitarist thing.
@gasolinequeen
2 жыл бұрын
unfortunately that wasnt the official concept art, the image shown was fan art
Sakurai just dropped some footage of Dragon King
6:26 (Jazz music stops)
Great vid bro
Pretty sure the zappinator wasn't removed
3:09 first fractal was a prototype zenith not terra blade
I'm glad Destiny was put on here. I was on the forums before Destiny was released and the promise and the ideas that were shown before it came out were inspiring. What was released was a good game but the story and scale were lacking.
44:30 Those sprites were made for a microgame where you control Wario and have to catch his clothes falling from the sky. In the finished version, he starts off in his underwear.
oh my god im about to go to sleep thank you ^^
I feel like the true final ending to Metal Gear Solid 5 was going to be the death of Venom Snake by the hand of Solid Snake..for those who don't know, in the very first Metal Gear game you actually kill Venom Snake, he was fooling Solid into making him think he was Big Boss I believe, correct me if I'm wrong.
@highadmiraljt5853
2 жыл бұрын
You’re right, actually the guy that helps you escape the hospital in the first mission of MGSV was actually the real big boss.
@kingn0ah377
Жыл бұрын
Imagine a final mission, a version of mg 1 in 3D, you playing as venom, seeing your men slowly die by the hand of one man, solid. You finally face the man, kinda like ocelot vs snake, with only your hands, with the playable character actually changing from venom to solid as they clash, with solid ultimately winning. Then, as venom slowly dies in outer heaven, he thinks of his old face, laughing as it self destructs.
I see thumbnail, I see HL2 Beta Alien Assasin. I click
btw fortegreen on the other one theres also a yellow one but only in chat
Capsule monsters was meaning Pokemon's old name
Capsule monsters was pokemons early iteration