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Unturned marketplace money laundering probably plays a part in it.

@nsreturn1365

28 күн бұрын

this, now in bad times even ohter games needed to take actions. Rn for example tcg Yugioh is pretty known for cards that nobody ever uses or knows about even random 0.1 cents filler to "go for 1000-2000k". But instead fighting them they kneefucked all legit users. Pog

@jojolafrite90

28 күн бұрын

That was the very first thought I had when I saw this. It has to be a possibility.

@rushed527

26 күн бұрын

Hows is it money laundering??

@jojolafrite90

25 күн бұрын

@@rushed527 What 's your point we don't say it is, we say it really reminded us of money laundering.

@jojolafrite90

25 күн бұрын

@@rushed527 So, you say it can't be a possibility at all? OK, what are your arguments? We don't have to prove anything, well, he said probably, but still not a definitive statement. You do, since you seem to be shocked at the possibility and already think this can't at all be the reason or part of it for this game's weird stats.

Money for nothing and bots for free.

@stage6fan475

28 күн бұрын

Yes!!! It fits the song. Someone talented do a cover! Thanks. 😅😅😅😅😅

@Einstormer

28 күн бұрын

Words you can hear in your head :)

@volf3r505

28 күн бұрын

Its not only this - fake sales numbers. The supposed "indie" smash hit Helldivers 2 has sold 12M copies COMBINED (PC & PS5). 8M on PC alone. Somehow the peak players are 458K - like 5.5% of the supposed total units sold. True that not all will play at the same time, but it is statistically impossible - it is like 80+ percent of the supposed owners never logged in.

@Einstormer

28 күн бұрын

@@volf3r505 highly sus.

@stuartmorley6894

28 күн бұрын

That's not unusual at all for a live service game. When US players are online half of Europe is asleep. Asian players have to juggle between the two and forget about it if you are in Australia. Do you honestly expect all 12 million that bought the game to be still playing it at the same time four months out from release? With Helldiver's 2 especially there's no timed releases meaning you have to log on every day. There's a battle pass but nothing drops off it meaning you aren't forced to log in every day just so you don't miss a skin that can only be earned for playing every day for a fortnight. You can earn everything in game and there's no alarm clock going off giving you psychologically tested FOMO. I'm really not sure what you are suggesting about the game, or any games at all, if you are completely forgetting about all the normal reasons that players aren't all playing at the same time. You seem to be suggesting some sort of mendacity where none exists.

Instead of a zombie apocalypse, we have a bot one.

@Jackfromshack

28 күн бұрын

Bots do not creating themselves. It is the people

@thatspookagain4030

28 күн бұрын

​@Jackfromshack for now. eventually bots will create themselves.

@DatBoiSaint

28 күн бұрын

If you ever played atomic heart you'd know it's as crazy as a zombie attack.

@alexisleskinen9870

27 күн бұрын

Considering how good the ai is in games like insurgency sandstorm i feel theres not much time left until full AI bots are indistinguishable from human players. Equip the AIs with more nachine learning and and even evolution the AI bots could learn every aspect of a game in just a couple hundred generations. Perhaps even more desirable considering how crap randoms are 90% of the time.

Still waiting for Unturned 4.0

@CoalOres

28 күн бұрын

The real motive for the bots is to guilt trip the creator into hurrying up already.

@cuscus5011

28 күн бұрын

@@CoalOres not only that, he abandoned 4.0 as well, since it is such a big ambition project that is hard to pull off, all by himself

@the_hanged_clown

28 күн бұрын

still waiting for the Epstein list to get pursued

@thebluehat6814

28 күн бұрын

still waiting for the sky to turn red

@miners_want_me_dead

28 күн бұрын

I am still waiting for a console update

Bots are on the rise, even here.... In this very comment section. Edit: I never seen a bot edit a comment, but whatever

@AlexanderTheGoodEnough

28 күн бұрын

Yea...never seen so many similar icons. Usually I gotta go to the beach to glimpse a bikini crotch shot.

@Sparticulous

28 күн бұрын

In very many KZreadr comment sections. It is getting really annoying and reporting them seems to barely do anything

@thomasslone1964

28 күн бұрын

i fondly remember when i discovered puppeteer and lost sleep spamming funny KZread and reddit comments

@APsychicMonkey

28 күн бұрын

​@@thomasslone1964🤓

@Dragonk116

28 күн бұрын

Meh it's a LOT less than what it was before, you don't really see those bots with the weird WhatsApp numbers in the comments anymore, but occasionally you'll still see some kind of like sex bot or something like that.

as a long time unturned player while this is fairly well known in the community im glad you're bringing more attention to it.

@Fairerdolphin38

27 күн бұрын

oil up

Wanna know another bot mystery in games, one that's ruining Valve's multiplayer titles? A community called "FastPath", who is renting OVH servers in the thousands across many Valve titles, filling them with fake players that show as real players and stealing the names of genuine servers - at random. I think you should cover this, no one has covered this yet and this is a problem that has already destroyed many games I love.

@Ethorbit

28 күн бұрын

I'm still gathering info for a video of my own, but what I can say is that these fake players are programmed to use the names of genuine players and post messages in the chat made by genuine players, they connect and disconnect randomly, they pretend to be mad at people, they have convincing ping numbers, etc. Basically the only way to know you have joined a FastPath server is to look at how the bots play, they're bad and walk into props and stuff, there's a very obvious pattern. Sometimes the server is straight up called "FastPath" whereas other times it is using a copy of a name from a genuine server. There is usually an ad or something in the MOTD menu, and the chat has some filters to censor people. These servers usually populate the top 10 community servers of most valve games, so they're very easy to accidentally stumble in.

@TheLoomyLove

28 күн бұрын

That’s crazy and I’m just finding out about it now. Is there a possibility this is happening in team fortress two. Also, what is the purpose, what comes to my mind is to collect donations and fake memberships

@blunderingfool

28 күн бұрын

Weirdly, the reply to a post about bots reads like a bot post. Can't make it up! XD

@MudHut67

28 күн бұрын

Which games? And what do they have to gain from doing this?

@Dat_Jonx

28 күн бұрын

@@Ethorbit I think I've ran into something similar. Also I've seen "bait" servers, where you see one server and a map but connect to completely different one.

Unreleated, but used to play on this game in high school a bit. I remember one kid kept giving me crap saying "no, I know this game. My little siblings play it. It's Roblox" in like a condescending "you play kid games???" tone. I kept having to correct them like "it started as a roblox mod, but it's its own thing now." And they'd just not listen and dismissively (and still condescendingly) say "no no, I know this game. My little siblings play it. It's Roblox. I know this game. I know I know. You don't have to explain it. I know what you're talking about." That was the day I learned most people don't actually listen to anything you say once they've made up their mind or "know what you're gonna say," which is a lot.

@BleachDemon707

28 күн бұрын

...and? 🙄

@planescaped

28 күн бұрын

Yeah, cretins like that are absolutely insufferable.

@SageDog

28 күн бұрын

I know this game. My little siblings play it. It's Roblox.

@Slavesforsale1

28 күн бұрын

You should consider yourself lucky such a BASED LEGEND would even grace you with presence. He knows that game. His little brother plays it. Its Roblox.

@mr.personalspace7831

28 күн бұрын

You failed to take into consideration that he knows this game. His little siblings play it, it's Roblox. He knows this game, his little siblings play it.

oh hey I used to play this

@federationprime

28 күн бұрын

Same here, I played on Mac ~2015, and returned to it in 2019 and 2022 when I had an actual PC.

@200ratsinasuit

28 күн бұрын

same! saw it in my games list a while ago and was thinking of redownloading it to see if anythings changed and stuff... never got around to it lol

@Flairis

28 күн бұрын

fr used be a game I play

@anteshell

28 күн бұрын

A genuine question. Why would you play shit like this?

@olafthebear2327

28 күн бұрын

Same. It was an alright game to play for a couple days. Nothing I'd consider still playing almost 10 years later

I never would have expected you to cover a game ive been following for so long and for such an odd reason too

@p-__

24 күн бұрын

My farts are better than Upper Echelon’s farts 💨

One comment about the "thousand dollar items" on the unturned steam market. The game has a silly crafting system where you can pretty much get a unique item most of the time. Since there are sometimes none of these items listed on the market, people list them for absurdly high prices but nobody actually buys them.

@TemperedMedia

28 күн бұрын

Maybe some of them are purchased to, you know... move money from one place to the next.

@CheesyMez

28 күн бұрын

@@TemperedMedia but you cant convert steam balance to actual money, so why would u do that unless you intend on buying csgo items and then selling them on an external website or something

@stuartmorley6894

28 күн бұрын

​​@@CheesyMez given csgo survived for years based on off game skin gambling sites it's distinctly possible.

@CheesyMez

28 күн бұрын

@@stuartmorley6894 yeah but unturned doesnt have that in any meaningful way, so youd have to sell the unturned item on steam, then buy something genuinely valuable like a tf2 or csgo item

@user-sh6pg2rh9x

23 күн бұрын

@@CheesyMez No, but you can buy games with it.

So I can help a bit with this mystery. The servers themselves count as players even if the player who owns the server is not online steam considers the game running. The game once you get to a point also rewards AFK play or it used to back in 1.0 If there is an empty server it counts as a player. And there are lots of private servers too.

@TiagoTiagoT

23 күн бұрын

But how would that explain the steady number and coordinated drops and rises at such large scales?

@commonnerfer

23 күн бұрын

@@TiagoTiagoT mostly due the fact that if a server is always online it will show a player always online unless the game has a minor update or patch which will wipe out a large amount of them for a short period

@TiagoTiagoT

22 күн бұрын

@@commonnerfer Maybe I misheard it, but didn't he said on the video those do not correspond to updates dates of the game?

@Atrau-

13 күн бұрын

Any source?

@bobograndman

9 күн бұрын

@@Atrau-any source that it’s not lmao. Makes more sense than “tens of thousands of bots are farming steam items but that doesn’t actually work since it’s hard to get in game drops now”

Around May 21st (May 23rd to be exact) a curated (a workshop made but officially accepted into the game) map came out which caused a lot of legitimate players to play Unturned all at once. Outside of new map releases most servers are dead compared to the supposed steam concurrent playercounts. Another note is around the time Nelson Sexton (The games sole dev) disabled random drops the playercount dropped a ton (I can't remember the exact number but it was thousands iirc).

@lukeumhoefer

28 күн бұрын

Is it possible that the drop disabling happened on the 19th of May? Right now I'm looking at international holidays that fall on the 19th, due to a ~30,000 player drop. If that drop was due to the random drops then I feel a little goofy going down the international holiday rabbit hole.

@gplastic

28 күн бұрын

yeah I did this the last map release so that I could get all my steam achievements back so it could stay on my profile, not sure if im gonna do that this time though

@Crilp484

28 күн бұрын

@@lukeumhoefer Random item drops got disabled around mid August 2022 iirc

@TheLoomyLove

28 күн бұрын

Yes, you see the similar thing in TF2. Basically it’s people create AFK accounts to farm. The items. But once they changed it, there was no need

@amentco8445

28 күн бұрын

@@TheLoomyLove You haven't watched or don't believe the Zesty video I see.

Kind of funny to see TF2 higher on most played list while suffering from the same problem Zesty Jesus made video 'TF2: Nobody's Home' about it and i still feels wierd. Edit should have watched till the end as didnt know he mentioned TF2 lol

@hypnotised-clover

28 күн бұрын

He should do a full dedicated video on the tf2 situation.

@cynicalia

26 күн бұрын

@@hypnotised-cloverAyo cool pfp who’s artist

Ah Unturned, haven't heard about it years; good memories though

A few years ago, my steam account got hacked. It took me a few weeks to get it back, and when I did, whomever took it had added Unturned to the library and done nothing else with it. I guess I was briefly turned into a cybermen, but thankfuly I got better!

I played it a bunch of years ago. It has a lot of cool mods. The coop experience was pretty good. For some reason I stopped playing it. Now I want to get back into it. I had no idea what happened to the game.

@Robin-sc6lm

28 күн бұрын

I reccomend checking out the new map, escalation. 😊

I remember getting this after Computing Forever recommended this about seven or so years ago. I still play it once a month or four whenever I get bored. It just scratches an itch but I never play it online with other players, only offline solo.

Man,I never expected you to do a video on my favorite game I used to play this game a lot,in fact,the dude that made this(Nelson Sexton) is my inspiration to become a game dev,cuz he basically made Unturned all by himself I hope he does something about this bot stuff I know that would take away the game from the top 20(something he probably doesnt want),but it's best to be a poor hero than a rich idiot in my opinion

i used to play unturned back in 2018-2020, and once aorund 2022, iam just waiting for the 4.0 update, hearing this game after so long made me remember the old day

@TheLoomyLove

28 күн бұрын

At this point, we need a team to make a copy of unturned. Nelson is 😊Just milking it at this point

@thatspookagain4030

28 күн бұрын

don't wait any longer, Nelson fully gave up on 4.0

@belcomment8096

27 күн бұрын

nelson canceled 4.0

@furret7685

16 күн бұрын

​@@TheLoomyLovebro is milking a free game...?

I played that more than 10years ago during the zombie survival boom and ever since like 2015 when I logged in, it always felt like a barely populated game with spawncampers on every server

i played unturned a few days ago, and i was really into it around october of 2023. i didn’t even know the game had that many suspected players on steam. it seems like a tight-knit community to me from what i’ve seen.

@mathias6369

28 күн бұрын

Yeah the community is somewhat close together, with most players having heard of or are actively watching most content creators, the problem is UE threw them together with the bots when is no relation between them.

@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917

28 күн бұрын

I think you might be a bot.

@SkepCakes

28 күн бұрын

Yeah same, I have never noticed the insane amount of "players" playing this game daily, prob because I never seen a steam chart.

I played about 300 hours of Unturned back in the day, and I liked the game... when it still was Zombie Survival. These days its just a pvp shooter I can confirm that playercounts never felt higher than a small indie game experience

@analizin

15 күн бұрын

I’m honestly excited for Unturned 4.0, because it promises to bring back the original, survival-focused gameplay loop. But we won’t see that for a very, very long time…

Dead Internet Theory...no... Dead Internet LAW

This is so weird. I remember grabbing it out of curiosity when it first came out, played like 3 hours, thought "that was neat, but needs work (it was in alpha) i'll check on it later" ...and totally forgot it existed until now 😐 ....weird.

Funny enough dying light 1 has unturned weapons as a weapon pack

@Robin-sc6lm

28 күн бұрын

In unturned you can change the zombies to volatiles or blue volatiles in the map settings. They only look different with different sounds but it's fun to add them as a 1% chance.

Zesty Jesus made a video about TF2s idle bot problem a few days, maybe a week ago. He directly shows comparisons of Unturned's player numbers to TF2 as an example of what the bot patterns look like, and it's entirely universal. It's a massive issue nobody is tackling fully. Even CS2 is suffering a similar situation. Nobody's Home.

@Jackfromshack

28 күн бұрын

Every game with steam trading system have this bot pandemic. The only way out is to prohibit resale in game items for real money. All bots will die within a week as they will not make a profit.

@p-__

24 күн бұрын

My farts are better than Upper Echelon’s farts 💨

Why wouldn't they thunk about the rhythm of players? It could have spared whatever system they've been stressing to fake this. We'll, now the cats out of the bag and they'll be harder to detect now unless they're really stupid

Zesty Jesus made a similar video about the real player count of TF2 where he also mentioned Unturned, it was a real eye opener.

Bots are not there to boost player count, they are there to farm freedrop items. Freedrop items used to be a thing which you would get for playing. Game would just give you a random common/uncommon skins once in a while just for playing. Those items can be scrapped and used to craft random mythicals (1000 crafting materials=1 random mythical). Bots would just have the game on 24/7 to receive these skins which were then re-sold to people like me who craft sometimes up to 100 skins at once. I never owned any bots but I am a frequent buyer of skins like this. Bots are on right now in case Nelson Sexton decides to re-enable freedrops.

@desmond42069

27 күн бұрын

If more info needed, you can hmu since I used to be pretty deep into all this.

@PANT0

27 күн бұрын

exactly

@botneil4510

25 күн бұрын

Well I fully get that, but why bother having the bots on while there's zero return being made? I'm assuming botting services have a decent pricepoint, probably monthly aswell, so why keep wasting money on something that might never happen. Nelson's one lazy dude, so chances are he won't be bothered dealing with it again.

@PANT0

25 күн бұрын

@@botneil4510 mostly if they ever get enabled again they can immediately start farming again

@botneil4510

25 күн бұрын

@@PANT0 They've been disabled for two years. Nelson specifically stated they would never be re-enabled. Devs lie I know, but betting thousands of dollars every year for the slim chance he gets an aneurism and re-enables then seems like a longshot. Ive played unturned since the pre-2.0 days, and even I'm not huffing this much copium.

Is Steam just counting the total capacity of all of the online servers and assuming they are always full or something?

@tux_the_astronaut

27 күн бұрын

No its counting steam accounts that are playing the high numbers are idle botted steam accounts

Good video, I fully agree, the only reason to be keeping it 'alive' with bots is for the economy.

@pianoman7753

28 күн бұрын

In stark contrast to what I was just playing, d2 classic, on pc, still overrun with awesome helpful bots and great fantastic nice ppl

Fascinating! Another great video, even though I've barely heard of this game. I like that you say when you haven't figured something out.

I remember this game from RubenSim's video. IIRC after that video it did gain a good chunk of players.

This channel is heavily undersubscribed, so informative, on so many relevant subjects!

@XBluDiamondX

28 күн бұрын

Just because you really like this channel doesn't make it under-subscribed. Stop making things up.

Great video. I remember the days when games journalism was full of this type of oddity reporting.

The game is still amazing depite the bots, more people should play it. Its not the owners choice to have his game botted, theres some botnet out there thats inflating the playercounts of almost every free game on steam.

@TheOrangeRoad

28 күн бұрын

Lol no

@XBluDiamondX

28 күн бұрын

Lol I am not going to play this slop, even if it is free.

@belcomment8096

27 күн бұрын

i dislike slop

@Innerdesert

26 күн бұрын

I agree that more people should play it, don't listen to these bots replying to your comment.

@Atrau-

13 күн бұрын

as a player with more than 10k hours - no, you shouldnt play it unless you have friends to play with, or unless you make content in this game

You are, by no mean feat, the most well-spoken and well-researched content providers on this platform. Just thought you should know that's how I perceive your vids.

Lost ark also had a similar graph because of bot problems (not sure if it still has).

10K+ hours on Unturned here, pretty much the entire community knows that the game is botted. The economy you were talking about in the video doesn't really exist, not many items at all sell for above 100$+ , yes there are few exceptions where few very rare & good looking "Mythicals/Crafted Mythicals" for example (Energized Hypertech Maplestrike) might sell for upwards of 500$+ (and has sold for more than that). Some items that you see for upwards of 1000$ are less than 1$ even, they just have special "Killcounters/or something else on them" and nobody has yet put them on the market with that, so some kid puts them instead for like 1K$+ and thinks that somebody will buy them. There are some huge transactions that people do using some of those "not listed yet" items (I like to call them that) in order to transfer funds between accounts/or to do a big trade or something like that. Other than that, the game is pretty dead, sometimes it gets new content but not by the creator of the game itself, but by modders themselves (new maps/lootboxes to open/achievements and so on) Nelson just accepts them into the game as Curated content. Back in the days, the game had lots of population tho, not gonna lie, there were massive youtubers living off the game as well, it just simply died...

@C.P.L

23 күн бұрын

It's really sad that the game is slowly dying. It has an amazing structure that could be great if added onto a bit more. It's by far the easiest game to mod that I've ever seen. The fluidity of it's systems makes even servers that aren't zombie-based easily done. The barricade system makes making an area look amazing easy. It's an amazing combination. It's just too bad that nearly nobody remembers it and most of the youtubers left. If it had a bit more recognition, I have no doubts that it would actually get to at least 30k real players. I doubt it'll happen though so we're just stuck here as we pray that something saves the game from the slow death that's coming

@Atrau-

13 күн бұрын

if the economy itself doesn't really exist, why is the game botted? im not trying to disprove you, just didn't figure what is your point, why the game is botted in the first place.

@bobograndman

9 күн бұрын

@@Atrau-there’s no proof it’s botted. There’s no proof it’s not. That’s why this is a weird mystery, I’m assuming it’s something janky with how player count is being measured. Since empty online servers alone count as an online player so that alone should bring the count itself into question.

At first I was wondering why Value seems to be unbothered by the botting. After the Steam NTFs (marketplace) were mentioned, I wasn't wondering anymore.

I have a ton of hours in unturned and I really only ever played solo, save for a couple times I've played with friends, because any multiplayer server you join is near universally going to be populated by bots. It's eerie.

@ventu7907

17 күн бұрын

That is literally false

Just a thought. I do not do online games and lootboxes one pay for so not exactly familiar with how it works but, if certain people wanted to move a lot f money, launder it or whatever, get out of a country, why not pick a game no one plays with high value pixel items, use one set of Bots to Buy and one set to Sell. Microtransact money from point A to B and not raise eyebrows.

@wedoalittletrolling723

28 күн бұрын

It is smart because the feds will have no idea and by the time they investigate, you'd be gone anyway

When I saw tf2 graph I immediately knew where you were going. Cause I constantly see bots while playing tf2. Its a rare day when I dont see a bot.

Never thought you would talk about this game, strange.

The daily change in player count is a game's heartbeat

@contramachina354

27 күн бұрын

my god...

Payday 2 is probably botted too, there also is very little day-night cycle fluctuations

I'm under the belief that the amount of bots, the degradation in quality of videos, forcing more ads down ears and through eyes, and highly edited quick cut content has forged the end of youtube, at least for me. I just want to say, before I go, that your content is actually good. While I'm not going to be watching it after I go, I have enjoyed watching it before. Essentially, just keep up the good work and don't sell out. I'm going when mr beast becomes the most subscribed channel (the gap's about 1.8 million at the time of this comment) and if I come back (not planning on) I want you to have that many subscribers. So long

@XBluDiamondX

28 күн бұрын

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

i remember playing the crap out of this game when it first came out, the reason i stopped playing however was because the updates back then were extremely sparse i was honestly like going through a cycle of burnout every update eventually i got sick of it & left

This is actually surprising to see. I played this a lot a long time ago with friends, and solo. So much so that I basically learned the entire map. I only stopped playing cause I felt like I knew everything/have done everything. Never played on one of those servers, never even knew there was a marketplace. It is a surprisingly fun game, though it doesn't look it. Looking at the comments theres new maps and mods and stuff, I might need to play it again.

I played this game a lot back in the day, it has a community, I remember it having a pretty okeyishly big one aswell, I always wondered why the game always seemed at the rise even though many kids like me played it back in the day are all grown up and left.

Lmaoo porn bots acting in the most sus way possible, just what an AI thinks a normal human talks 😂

@user-hb3fi3vn2w

28 күн бұрын

"🐈 pics or gtfo" is the best response I've seen so far to the pron bots.

Great investigative journalism! Don't ever apologize for focusing on smaller or less controversial issues! It's still very important to have a light shone on them, thanks for doing that, keep it up!

Idk what I should think about this. There could be many bots in the Game, but it is an amazing Game and I dont think the playercount would only be 4K

4:20 he accidentally says WarFrame instead of WarThunder XD

Thanks for reminding me this Gem exists, im gonna go play it again.

i love your outro

One funny thing is when you started this video you showcased the top 15, which was surprising to see games like Crab Game who also is another case of obvious botting as well

The active user chart looks like massive drop when bot server have maintenance or restart for some reason.

Just started video, I ran an Unturned server for me and my kids. I'm so confused lmao

you should see @ZestyJesus he just released a massive dive into the bot crisis on tf2 and went into great detail of the inflated player numbers. he did go into unturned's numbers and another game but didnt focus too hard on unturned because he mentioned the creator turning off random drops, dont remember what his reason for it still happening is as the main focus was on tf2 and not unturned. But he did a massive dig into the bot crisis effecting TF2 specifically.

@stage6fan475

28 күн бұрын

Thanks for mentioning this. I took a look, and he did a great investigation, Upper Echelon quality. Fascinating.

My son has been helping run an Unturned server with his friends for about 5-6 years now. He says their numbers will vary insanely from nobody playing to having a massive surge of n00bs join for awhile then it drops off and repeats. Whether from Discord or KZread, Unturned seems to get legit random boosts in popularity, but I don't know if its enough to reflect in the numbers you're giving.

I believe there may be another explanation to the compressed player counts which are commonplace in Roblox games: auto clickers. My son does this all the time in Roblox games, and will often keep going for days until there is a server bounce, which lines up very well with the graph we are seeing.

I played deadzone and the sister game battlefield on roblox way back in the day. When deadzonezakzak, nelson sexton, remade the game and released it as deadzone 2.0, i played it some, but it wasnt until server multiplayer released with the 3.0 is when i dumped 500 hours into it. I havent touched the game since 2016, with the exception of a small singleplayer playthrough I did this spring, before I got bored.

@UpperEchelon I am the moderator of /r/Unturned. This would make an amazing post on there and if posted, I will approve it so it does not get removed if reported.

Started playing unturned in the 2.0 phase. So much fun.

One of the main things to keep in mind is that the botting problem was even worse when playtime drops were enabled. Basically for every 3-5 hours of playing you have a chance of getting an item worth anywhere between 3 cents to half a dollar. The developer acknowledged this issue and disabled the playtime inventory drops around 2020 or 2021. The question is, why do bots still keep coming?

What is the mystery? It is clearly in dark money farm. There are tonnes of them, especially as mobile games.

Can’t wait for Knight Writer to make a video on this xD

Unturned is a pretty good game. Sad to see it's been TF2'ed. At least the actual gameplay isn't affected by the bots here, unlike TF2.

I tried playing this and gave up after 3 matches. It was either destroying others or getting destroyed to the point it's not even fun. Like NO BALANCE. It felt like i got both crappy bot lobbies and God mode bot lobbies.

When you looked at the servers, you seemed to have missed all of the Chinese ones. They get a lot of players, if you check on the steam workshop of Unturned, some of the top mods are Chinese translations of existing mods

I'm so old when I was a kid our internet didn't have any bots!

UE truly leaves no mystery unturned

This used to be actually quite popular... But the developer has made a lot of questionable design decisions with future updates and problems with the core way maps are designed were never addressed. ...And then public servers all started shifting towards hardcore clan-based PvP garbage that alienates any new players whatsoever from coming in (and singleplayer gets old REAL fast) It's been dead for over half a decade. Barely any actual people play it. ...Though I imagine this is also true to some extent for Team Fortress 2, and actually even Counter Strike 2 (the latter may not be dead entirely, but I'm running into the same 30-40 people playing it SUSPICIOUSLY often at this point despite often switching server settings and playing on and off for a month at varying times of day) Team Fortress 2's bot problem is very covered by this point, but it'd be interesting if someonne like Upper Echelon could explore this problem with CS2 that most people seem to completely disregard as nonsense (even though it's clearly there)

There is a single player mode. I used to play that a little bit. Its like palworld with zombies and no pals, but free to play and with a slim chance at earning the in game items to be able to play a better game.

I've started Unturned like 4-6 times in my life ever since 2015 or something. There was never a single server, I don't understand why this exists

4:50 Man, i generally respect you and i agree with most of the video but this is a flaw in it. There are servers that aren't public in the server list, and you can play in Singleplayer. So no, you can't just "count the players".

i think it also the psychological effect of wanting community. people dont wanna play a dead game. people wanna play a game they think other think is relevant. someone is way more likely to dl a game that has 8000 bots than a game that has 30 active players.

I remember I used to LOVE this game for a bit but dropped off when other stuff came around

i wonder whether steam will ever try to do anything about this strange, confusing bot problem?

@pootispiker2866

28 күн бұрын

Nothing! Valve profits off of it

@Atrau-

13 күн бұрын

@@pootispiker2866 same with sdgnelson unfortunately :(((

I clicked in this video because this game in particular gets my attetion by the fact that it spawns on my steam library one day. Never played it, never see anything about it... It just appears one day.

Was steam out on the 22e of May? All games shown have a spike down at that day.

@tux_the_astronaut

27 күн бұрын

Steam has maintenance every Tuesday which causes short outages. But could of also been a unplanned outage

3:06 I mean it is exam season and most kids only start sudying about 2 days before the test... them all logging out at the exact same time is the nail in the fishy coffin, though.

I've seen a lot of steam graphs over the years from the least popular games like redfall to the most popular like bg3 and I gotta say those lines seem very artificial. They don't fluctuate with anyones sleep and work schedules at all, they remain at 50k players 24/7 which doesn't make sense, even with timezones the us and the uk are usually the highest player counts, when those 2 countries go to bed that's when you see the lowest dip, but there is no dip in this game at all, those are definitely bots being run 24/7.

Used to play the game when it came out, returned to it once in a while, most servers are dead, the game mechanics are terribly flawed and the game is just not fun past the novelty. The "popularity" of the game has always baffled me, when you're not looking at the steam numbers, it looks like nobody plays the game, when you look at the servers it seems like there's very few people playing, when you look at the steam numbers it seems like a massively popular game, something is definitely amiss.

I started playing unturned recently for the first time cause my Friend got back into it and wanted me and some other friends to play with him.

Oh I remember unturned skin gambling winfortune 300 was the biggest

I used to play this back in 2012

bruh I remember playing it in 2015-2016, with big community youtubers like 2rgames, melikebigboom.. the game was definetly living with a lot of content being pumped out, but booking at it now I'd guess it's around 1-5k players tops, yt is dead and nobody really talks about it

I’ve started playing this game back in 2014 and I’ve logged 400 hours in total. It’s a good simple game but I haven’t touched it in a few years since I got bored of it (probably because I’ve played for 400 hours) Edit: not a bot comment

If the game has items you can sell for real money, obviously there will be armies of bots farming for them. What's the mystery?

Haven't heard of unturned in ages.

I love this game and play it often but only ever single player. I never new about this

I used to play this game religiously on my shitty windows vista laptop. Could never get higher than 10fps and was stuck using the mouse pad so i couldn't never participate in pvp but i still had a whole lot of fun.

I've seen this topic discussed a lot. One thing that people don't take to mind is that there's Chinese players bypassing the Great Firewall. There's definitely bots but there's also these people

@napoleonfeanor

28 күн бұрын

Why would they play that game then?

@Atrau-

13 күн бұрын

@@napoleonfeanor free to play

I used to play this game, it was great, i just grew out of it, but i have do many great and funny memories of it that i always look back with hope...

I used to play this game all the time, I still have the "beta account" berate

The way more interesting question is how an active player is counted. Does Steam really need to run? Does the game have to be open? Or is there an API which could be compromised so that it‘s even easier to fake numbers.