The sad thing is that the Mexican federation does not care. They want money and it’s blatantly obvious. It’s sad because I’ve always loved the Mexico national team and to see their downfall is just sad to see.

@benjaminaraya8073

5 ай бұрын

I feel your pain, as a fan of the USA our federation only cares about money not about building upon our performances.

@franciscogutierrez916

5 ай бұрын

TELEVISA OWNS THE FMF

@abrahamvidrio771

5 ай бұрын

The FMF is owned and operate by the clubs owners who are the reason Mexico suck to begin with, no changes will ever be done because of the corruption in the league.

@dead8761

5 ай бұрын

Exactly ​@@franciscogutierrez916

@eduardop.5664

5 ай бұрын

Maybe if their deluded fan base stop buying their merchandise and game tickets

I’ve always said Mexico could be a football powerhouse if they get their priorities straight, the amount of raw talent that has gone through their systems only to be wasted by them or by the federation is so sad to see.

@MexBrew52

5 ай бұрын

We’re gonna be back, you’ll see

@komodododo7961

5 ай бұрын

You're never been a powerhouse in football, chill 💀​@@MexBrew52

@adrianreyes6671

5 ай бұрын

@@MexBrew52 we say this all the time after every world cup cycle. Noting will change unless we get out the old heads and the ones that get put there cuz of sponsors

@armandobroncas4276

5 ай бұрын

Players that lack professionalism has nothing to do with the federation. U17 and U20 leagues in place.. how much more of a fucking handout do you need?

@joaquingonzalez3251

5 ай бұрын

@@armandobroncas4276 u clearly don't know anything about how corrupt even liga mx and the academies there are bro its pay to play and they dont put in youngsters for any minutes at all, they just bring in old near-retirement players instead of taking chances on super talented youngsters so they ride the bench and their talent fades out

For me, the real downfall started in 06. The generation of divas like Chicharito, Ochoa, Guardado, Herrera, and more started coming through, and now it's worse than ever with players like Vega, Lainez, and co. Before that you had players like Luis Hernandez, Cuauhtémoc, Borgetti, Garcia Aspe, Torrado, Rafa Marquez, Campos, and more who despite not being top players (aside from Marquez and Campos) gave it their all and wanted to succeed. Not to mention, the league is nowadays bloated with foreigners who are garbage, and the so-called "youth teams" are now plagued with a bunch of hijos de mami y papi who never kicked a ball in their life prior to joining.

@fobikloko6368

5 ай бұрын

More like 2010-2012

@edbrown4800

5 ай бұрын

Bro Mexico was bang average. Even in 2002 they were eliminated.

@cisco999

5 ай бұрын

​​​@@edbrown4800you could argue that however at least in those times Mexico could sometimes punch above their weight or give top teams a run for their money. Ever since 2006, Mexico have hardly been able to punch above their weight instead they get destroyed. If Mexico were still following the direction they going in prior to the generation of divas and with today's infrastructure, they could have at least made it to the quarter finals several times and a possible semifinal. But instead they chose to keep signing garbage foreigners and more of them. Long gone are the days when there were fewer foreigners that were actually quality like Cardozo, Piojo Lopez, Zamorano, Sinha and co. And as I've said before nowadays the youth teams are absolute garbage plagued with "players" who are only their cause their parents paid for them to be there.

@edbrown4800

5 ай бұрын

@@cisco999 lol even in those times Mexico lost to USA. Like let’s stop kidding ourselves. Mexico has always only made it the round of 16 since 94. 2022 their luck ran out. They used to barely make it like 2018, 2010. When we’re the good o days? When Mexico lost the round of 16? When Mexico beats usa in Columbus?

@cisco999

5 ай бұрын

​@edbrown4800 lol I never said Mexico was ever amazing or referred to the "good ole days." I'm simply said there were times they could put up decent preformances. However, I think the potential to be a solid national team like 2018 Belgium and Croatia is there, but the federation and the players' mediocre mentality hold them back.

They need to start playing their friendlies in Mexico again. When 2/3 of your games are in the US, something is wrong. Whenever Mexico DOES play in their country; it's against Central American and Caribbean teams. I understand that in states like California, Texas, and Arizona there's a huge Mexican population but at the same time when you can't appeal your own audience in your own country, there's something wrong.

@fordrmo

5 ай бұрын

Lo que es querer ganar en dólares 🤑🤑🤑

@edbrown4800

5 ай бұрын

Mexico HAS to play more away games. By away games I mean barely any Mexican fans because Mexico’s away record is bad and nobody ever talks about that. They are so used to playing around their fans that when they play somewhere in Panama or Honduras, they question why they lost. Well they couldn’t handle the pressure of the opposition fans!!!

@marcocarrillo3923

5 ай бұрын

The problem has nothing to do with appeal. The Mexican Federation of Football prefers to have their national play friendlies in US soil to get those large dollar payouts. That’s money that they can’t get having the national team play in Mexico.

@erickbyarushengo4726

10 сағат бұрын

In order for things to change, one thing that needs to happen is for Mexicans who live in the US to STOP attending El Trí games. They could at least start with not attending friendlies. That way it can send a message to the FMF that things need to change. They stop going, the FMF won’t get so much of a payout that helps them out a lot financially. But we already know that won’t happen. A call like that will just fall on deaf ears and they’ll continue to pack the stadiums each time the team comes to their nearest city. It’s so ironic that El Trí has so many games outside of their country. The only other time you’ll see that is if a particular country is war torn.

Just because they didn’t make it to the round of 16 last World Cup doesn’t seem their downfall just started a few years ago. This has ALWAYS been Mexico. They were close to being eliminated in 1994, 2010 and 2018. They were almost eliminated from 2014 World Cup, they only qualified because usa beat panama. I laugh at people who say “I miss the good old days” what good old days???? Good old days of always being knocked out the round of 16 in a World Cup for the past 7 world cups???

@sergioramirez797

5 ай бұрын

Exactly a down fall u just pointed it out what has Mexico achieved recently?

@user-vx9jy7jl2l

5 ай бұрын

They went from a 6/10 team to a 5/10 team and apparently it’s a “downfall” 💀

@marktheshark7588

5 ай бұрын

@@user-vx9jy7jl2l ,I would say they're a 3/10 team.Recent results have been terrible.

@marktheshark7588

5 ай бұрын

Facts.Mexico was always an underperforming team.

@coronamex9297

2 күн бұрын

"El Tri" has never been a contender for anything other than the "Gold Cup". I blame Televisa / Univision and then some for their marketing and puffing up a soccer squad that has never been productive outside their "Estadio Azteca" on a Sunday afternoon match. I'm sure the next world cup they will advance to the next phase only because Mexico is partially hosting the World Cup. I've been hearing this delusion of being "put together" and "under construction" immediately after the World Cup of 1970 ! The last great thing they ever had was Hugo Sanchez playing for Real Madrid, and Rafael Marquez for Barcelona and that's it ! "Chicharito" was extremely overrated in my opinion.

I am so glad that you are talking about this. Everybody talks about how good Ochoa is but in reality, he along with other players are a cancer for Mexican football, and the worst thing is that they are not even world class players. It is so corrupted and I don't think is going to be fixed, sadly Mexico makes so much money out of this, specially because there are a lot of Mexicans in the U.S. so they have this double market.

@idrinkchocomil

5 ай бұрын

bruh, out of all the players to pick you said ochoa in 2014 ochoa was named as the 7th best goalkeeper of the world by IFFHS 💀

@Aeolus_ca

5 ай бұрын

@@idrinkchocomilthat was 10 years ago times change sadly

@idrinkchocomil

5 ай бұрын

@@Aeolus_ca you might want to reread op comment, then you will see the point of mine

@TheDrsnowblind

5 ай бұрын

@@idrinkchocomil he was a good goalkeeper but never world class, if you judge only for what he did during the world cup, then you may think he was excellent but he was not that good. actually, he has always been extremely bad when he has to get out during the corners, he barely leaves the small area (I don't know how to say it in English) and he has so many other problems, that's why he never played for a big team. Furthermore, he is big part of the corruption, he is member of a company that sponsors the Mexican National team and that's why he keeps playing for Mexico, there were other great goalkeeper that were better than him but they never gave them opportunities because Ochoa does not want.

@idrinkchocomil

5 ай бұрын

@@TheDrsnowblind the only argument i have is that you think he isnt world class when he was in the top 10 goalkeepers world wide, which equates to world class one of the people who ranked below him was hugo lloris who went on to become a world cup winner

This is basically all the same problems Peru is in. I can only imagine it's the same problems for many national teams that we're not paying attention to. They don't call up players until they're 21-24 years old and even then its limited playing time. The excuse i've seen many say is "they're not good enough yet for the selection". It's so dumb because if they aren't getting any playing time, how the hell are they going to get better? Peru recently debuted a 22 year old in a qualifier game in high elevation and he turned out to be the best player on the pitch. All the teens and developing players need is like 30 minutes off the bench or so. They never give them chances. never.

@joeelvinofficial

5 ай бұрын

Peru played with great heart in the last World Cup qualifiers, only to bottle it in the final qualifier against Australia 😢 Having said that, I don't know what has happened since then or anything about the domestic league in Peru

@alwayselite748

5 ай бұрын

@@joeelvinofficial they basically kept the same exact squad since 2015 and the new president didn’t do shit about their league development or the clubs won’t develop the young players so the greatest coach we’ve ever had left because of how big of a mess it became. the coach stressed how important the peru league was but they didn’t care. so after he left peru signed a coach who was terrible for the job from the start and heavily criticized the players coming out of the peru league so the team morale isn’t there and we score 1 goal in 6 qualifying games. the president for the national team has been investigated multiple times because of fixing games within the peru league among other things but he gets away with it because everything is corrupted now.

@joeelvinofficial

5 ай бұрын

@@alwayselite748 I noticed the new team seems to have few players from the previous qualifying campaign. What happened to Christian Cueva??? Get him back in the team!

@alwayselite748

5 ай бұрын

@@joeelvinofficial his time has come to an end. he’s super overweight now and in july he was seen partying in a whole different state and drunk as hell then got punished by his peruvian club for missing practice the next morning. he’s now that washed footballer everybody makes memes about in peru. it’s so sad to see because he was my favorite player to watch when we played.

Mexico has always been the top dog in concacaf, they were the big fish in a big fish in a small pond, but every time they entered other international competitions outside of concacaf they fail to stand out. One would think that with Canada and the USA becoming better in football this would be a good opportunity for Mexico to also become better but it only demonstrated how far behind they are. For the last like 3 years mexico has not been able to beat the USA in any official game, and that is seen as an international embarrassment in Mexico. With the rise of the MLS and the popularity on football/soccer growing fast in the USA and Cadana, Mexico is no longer the 'biggest team' in concacaf

@kevGrajeda09

5 ай бұрын

It should be good for mexico that concacaf is getting better. It looks like they're just gonna be left behind.

@didierrodriguez8778

5 ай бұрын

@@kevGrajeda09it is very good indeed

@kevGrajeda09

5 ай бұрын

@@didierrodriguez8778 yeah we'll wait and see. I sure hope concacaf gets better and better.

Mexico played their best football in the 90s when it wasn’t even owned by Televisa.

People dont understand, its not the players that are bad is the business

This video hits the nail on the head, everything mentioned in video I agree with expect Rafa Marquez being the last world class player in Europe. I think chicha was, chicharito never got his real opportunity and was still key part at United and went on to play for Real Madrid and have good seasons at Leverkusen.

@didierrodriguez8778

5 ай бұрын

I think Edson Álvarez has the qualities needed to be a great figure right now. But I agree with what you said

Now coming from a Mexican American perspective, I was disappointed to know that the mexican federation is more concerned with filling stadiums than genuine change. Mexico plays more in the USA than Mexico… like that makes no sense that’s like if England played majority of their games in Italy. If only the Mexican Americans stop attending the games, then the Mexican federation will see that people want change. Unfortunately, the Mexican Americans either don’t know or don’t care enough about the issues and as a result of that… the Mexican federation will keep doing what it’s doing. It might be petty of me to go after the fans but it’s frustrating to see Mexican Americans attend the games and pull their phones out and be like “ oh look guys memo” and post it on their instagram story for people to see. There are also plethora of instagram accounts dedicated to sucking the Mexican team dry, it’s honestly embarrassing. They go berserk after barely beating Honduras in the nations league, how can they expect Mexico to do well in the copa america if Honduras is hard to beat. Don’t even get me started with the Mexican media, the bandwagoning is atrocious to say the least.

@juanalmzn2263

5 ай бұрын

Let's be real, the majority of the people who attend the US tour and Gold Cup games are pochos that never visited Mexico a single day in their life

@randomgamer4915

4 ай бұрын

You're right besides fmf corruption one of the biggest problems is the fans and it's not the Mexicans fans cuz most of them they don't even go to the games anymore so they don't really make money in Mexico also Mexicans fans are more likely to do that ban chant as a sign of protest. So ask yourself what's the next best option the Mexican American fans in the USA that don't really question anything as long as they take a picture with their favorite Mexican player and other group of fans who are also at fault are the america fans who can't take criticism why are you defending televisa controlling Mexican soccer and making decision for the national team? They can't answer that lol like imagine defending corruption just cuz the owner of your team is the one of most corrupt media outlets in the country😂 the fans do have power to make change, look what happened in the national league 3rd place they fired the coach after they saw the empty stadium. If Mexican fans in general want real change they need to stop going to stadiums, paying their jerseys and stop watching the games in general.

@toadoly

4 ай бұрын

@@randomgamer4915 Agreed 👍

Finally someone speaking facts about this!

@ThroneFC

5 ай бұрын

It's a sad situation, let's hope Mexico turn their fortunes around

The peak reached on 2007 was unbelievable 3rd place in Americas cup winning over Uruguay. Today The national team is a joke barely can beat (with cheats) Honduras

You missed one important factor -- the endless games of the Mexican National team in the USA against the same mediocre teams. Its a cash grab, we call them "Partidos Moleros" aka Mole Games (Mole is a sauce that helps disguise dry chicken) So long as our brothers and sisters in the USA continue to show up to these molero games in the USA -- nothing will ever change.

@adrianreyes6671

5 ай бұрын

They aren’t even fans bro. Just cuz its mexico they go to get drunk.

Sometimes I wonder how can we have so much bad luck? We could literally had one of our best generations right now. Jonathan Dos Santos and Vega could have been such a good players, but wasted their time partying and drinking which caused them a lack of discipline. Diego Lainez showed his talent at such young age, but ruined his career when he choose playing for Betis, a team full of 28+ players that doesn’t trust youngsters, over playing for Ajax, a team that actually trust youngsters. Then we have Raul Jimenez who was destroying the Premier League with all his goals, but then he hasn’t been the same since the head injury incident with David Luz. In this past generation, Vela and Chicharito are the only ones who actually did something for the Mexican team.

Fun fact Mexico's mens national team is the only team in FIFA to play more games in another country then their home country, Mostly in America. Because Mexican Americans are richer then Mexicans in Mexico.

Thank you for making the video bro, is really sad the Mexico FA doesn’t care about exporting young players to Europe and the oligarchs or owners they just only care about money

@josebenitez5574

5 ай бұрын

We should boycott the games so it hurts their pockets and not consume any liga Mx or Mexican national team products and tickets

@adrianreyes6671

5 ай бұрын

@@josebenitez5574 tell that to the beans that love going to the games in the us. They are not even true fans cuz they just go to get drunk.

@josebenitez5574

5 ай бұрын

@@adrianreyes6671 yes some of them aren’t but we should all be united together not divided that’s why we fail in fútbol because we don’t want change and aren’t determined to fight for it we need to get rid of this corruption soon it’s killing our league and national team

@Fuego544

5 ай бұрын

Exactly bro they fill up stadiums to get drunk fight and take pictures for social media make us look bad they don't even care who we play against they'll still fill up the stadium ​@@adrianreyes6671

@cisco999

5 ай бұрын

​​@@josebenitez5574it won't ever happen. Mexicans in general like to fight against each other just look at Mexican history in general. It could explain why the country also never progresses.

Sadly I dont see this changing any time in the near future.

I've been watching Mexico since the1990s and I can tell you this: Mexico HAS NOT gotten worse. It plays pretty much the same. What has changed is that its rivals in the region have gotten better and have adapted to the new style of football that's way more athletic and more fast paced in addition to skills and tactics requirements. Herculez Gomez on ESPN once started to say this, but David Faitelson and Mauricio Pedroza didn't like the comments so they pushed back and changed the subject. It's nothing new. When Juan Carlos Osorio coached Mexico, he started to mention something similar until he had to walk it back due a Mexican press blowback. Tata Martino, on the other hand, didn't care and was more blunt about it. The Mexican football press didn't like it and didn't want to hear it, but he didn't care and to this day they are STILL finding ways to blame him for Mexico's shortcomings in Qatar. Players 'coming forward' to say that he....wait for it....'treated them like children' and 'sold out to Argentina'.....(HAY POR FAVOR!) So, people like David Faitelson and Alberto Garcia Aspe don't want to accept the reality as to why Mexico is stagnant but at least other commentatorss in other Mexican soccer shows are accepting the reality. Some of them are suggesting for more foreign football players to become naturalized Mexican citizens to become elgible to play for El Tri someday. One surprisingly called out the whiners for continuting to blame LigaMX team owners for not allowing Mexican players to go to Europe because he knows that the few that go don't stay long for various reasons and end up returning to LigaMX, or MLS. He also mentioned that blaming the leauge team owners for controlling the federation, blaming the removal of promotion and relegation and blaming the LigaMX teams no longer participating in Copa Libertadores are just excuses. Why? Because Canada and USA don't go to Copa Libertadores and MLS does not, and never has had, promotion and relegation. I for one know that Don Garber is notorious for making US Soccer put MLS players on the USMNT and weakens it because of how weak the American MLS payers are. We all saw a very weak USA team with a bunch of MLS players in the last Gold Cup. They only looked good against Caribbean island nations, which pretty much means nothing.

Mexico has raw potential. If they were to improve then the league could go as far as compete with the top 5 best leagues. Tigres lost 1-0 to prime Bayern when Barcelona lost 8-2. Both matches were in tournaments which really goes to show how good Mexico can be even if they have 3-5 teams that can compete.

Hopefully we can get rid of all this corruption in Mexican fútbol and be a strong nation again in the region it will take a while to get back on track but I’m confident if we pressure enough and protest something will change

@marktheshark7588

5 ай бұрын

Ha!Keep hoping.Cuz that will never happen in Mexican futbol.

@josebenitez5574

5 ай бұрын

@@marktheshark7588 a I’m sure it will happen buddy it all starts with us doing nothing and being bitter about it doesn’t help we have to pressure and protest and maybe even boycott games to get the point through

@chicharito_is_the_goat

5 ай бұрын

Sadly we need more than that we need to publicly call them out on their wrong doings but that won't help much, another way is to hope that they resign as owner, co owner, etc so hopefully someone else can step up to take that roll and hopefully they aren't corrupted like the past people that had that roll. I stuttered a lot lol (edit)

@josebenitez5574

5 ай бұрын

@@chicharito_is_the_goat yes I would say maybe not go to the games and boycott than also I hope the clubs change owners because they are very corrupt and make the liga Mx and national team not live up to their potential by not helping players go to Europe

@josebenitez5574

5 ай бұрын

@@chicharito_is_the_goat we need better youth academies and better youth systems I hope the league can invest better in those areas and go back to copa libertadores and play more in copa America

what is super sad is that I live here in cali and the academys are expensive over here and they are no scouts in my area and I dont have a rich family either so my probabilities of my going pro are super low.

@SLPSAR10

5 ай бұрын

This has nothing to do with the video

@SLPSAR10

5 ай бұрын

I wish more players from went to mexico

@ThroneFC

5 ай бұрын

Yeah the US has practically the same youth system as Mexico

@josebenitez5574

5 ай бұрын

Go try out for liga Mx teams they are not as expensive as mls academies

@cisco999

5 ай бұрын

​@@josebenitez5574only to be held back by the club or some hijo de mami y papi to pay even more money to take your spot.

Thank you for this video, completely true!.. kind regards from mainz Germany from a Mexican 🙋‍♂️

I think there was never a downfall at all. More like Mexico never even fulfilled their potential and that's what's sad. If you look at Mexican history of soccer it kind of started in the early 90's. For one, Mexico started this inflation of players in the domestic market and started demanding insane amounts that Euro clubs wouldn't pay (and why would they when in the rest of the world they would get them for cheap). Mexico's big chances to transcend at WC level were in 94 and 98. Because Mexico didn't have players with that killer instinct, which they could have if they would've started exporting more, then maybe things would've been different. That's a whole topic to unpack but in my opinion that's where one of our problems originates. After that it really just started to stagnate and fester. You compare Mexico with similar teams like USA, Costa Rica, Colombia, Paraguay, Chile, Uruguay, Venezuela, Peru, Ecuador, South Korea, Japan, and Australia (more ore less B level teams) and all of these other teams have made decent progress, even if it's just player exportation alone. Mexico use to compete very well when it was in Copa America. Now we aren't even it it. All of this then devolves with the emergence of the Mexican market in US. It seems like the people who control Mexico's soccer are successful with the mediocrity and the idiotic consumption of (mostly) casual Mexican soccer fans in the US. That's pretty much been Mexico's life's blood once MLS started up in 1996. Mexico's games in US increased to much more, as did broadcasting rights, merchandising, etc. It's much more than this, but in general Mexican soccer is pretty much doomed and this is what we will get for the next 10 years (at least). As fans/consumers I think we need to just stop watching, buying, attending games, etc. Even though I doubt that will ever happen.

@cisco999

5 ай бұрын

Agreed with most of your points but I'd say it truly started in 06. In the 90s Mexican players weren't sought after in Europe due to their short height. In the 2000s Mexicans were a bit more on the radar of European clubs due their solid preformance in the 2005 Confed cup and their deep runs in Copas America. However 06 is when the generation of divas like Chicharito, Guardado, Giovanni, and many others started to emerge.

Yeah ,, as someone who grew up watching them play and have seen “supposed changes” I can agree that they go for the cash and not the sport itself,, and it will only get worse since the Mexican league is inflated and keep bringing players from other countries ,, Not enough talented “ Mexican” players are brought up ,, or not at least to national team standards 😢

@OfficialBillC

5 ай бұрын

The only reason they’re bringing people from different continents is to revive their league, like how they did with ronaldhino.

@cisco999

5 ай бұрын

​@OfficialBillC No, they bring in foreigners because they're too lazy to develop young talent

You nailed it! This is exactly what I have been saying! I agree with this video 1000%

whatg baffles me so much is how many times you see players have a great season of Aug-Dec and have about a 5 week break like the bundesliga but will struggle the next season acting like a whole summer period just passed by when only weeks have gone by. Its clear these players don't take their job seriously cause in the budnesliga and other European teams with small winter breaks they are kept in shape. I have seen plenty of players come back gassed in LIga MX and don't get me started during the summer when they gain weight and use the summer training camp to lose said weight. IDK how these guys don't take their job seriously as you are literally paid to exercise

What downfall? We were never on top. Just ok sometimes.

Sadly Mexico is the most failed team in the World Cups, and since 94 till the latest 2022 México hasn't gone above the 4th game, its the mentality of the mexican if they're winning they fill confident and if they're losing to 3-0 then half the team discouraged and they just give up, and look since 94 till now we've seen teams like France Spain become new world cup champions, and teams like Chile, Morocco, Colombia, Costa Rica, Portugal, Croatia, Turkey, South Korea has progressed a lot and had different, better or higher results then Mexico, it feels that Mexico is not progressing or going nowhere with the corruption they have but their corrupted media makes the people believe that Mexico is in the same heights as Brazil and Argentina in reality we are not

My solution to Mexico's lowering quality of football is so crazy it just might work: Do what Australia did and CHANGE zone. Australia moved from the oceania zone into Asia, and their level increased a lot. Mexico should leave CONCACAF and join CONMEBOL. Forcing themselves to play for a World Cup spot in South America against Brazil, and Argentina instead of USA and Canada will greatly increase their level of play since it puts them in a sink or swim situation where they either manage to improve, or are forced to never play a World Cup ever again.

@ThroneFC

5 ай бұрын

That's actually an interesting solution. Never thought about it

@cre8ivjay

2 ай бұрын

@@ThroneFC Slippery slope though. Then you'll have the US move regions, then Canada, then Morocco, then Qatar, etc...Then why even have regions? Maybe it's worth countries like Mexico and Australia, and Canada, US, etc... working within their own systems to ensure high quality players are developed. The video outlines ways in which Mexico can indeed improve without having to rely on moving regions.

CONCACAF in nutshell: Costa Rica after 2014 WC has fallen apart, USA - has been building a global, new, football giant for 30 years...they built nothing, Mexico - balances between being kings of continent and disapointment, Canada - after 2022 World Cup qualifiers another huge mark from North America and guess what canadian team doesn't exist in serious football. This federation is one enormous downfall.

@cisco999

5 ай бұрын

One big joke*

@victorfortunato

5 ай бұрын

WTF "Kings of continent"???

The only solution to the problem is for the Mexican fan to act like consumers. If the product is shit don’t consume it.

As an American fan since the 90's I've gotten to watch Mexico a lot over the years. My take is a little different. I don't think Mexico has suffered a dramatic downfall, instead what has happened is that the rest of Concacaf, Africa and Asia have all started to live up to their potential, thanks locally to MLS and broadly by the expansion of the World Game to a point where almost everyone has players playing outside of their home country. The World Game and the Concacaf game are both significantly deeper and more talented than they were a couple of decades ago. This makes Mexico look bad by comparison as now they're playing in a pool that has a lot more talent and experience than it did during the times that they had their greatest successes. To me it's as simple as that.

@ThroneFC

5 ай бұрын

I like your perspective. What you said is 100% real, but Mexico should have adapted and evolved at the same rhythm as the other CONCACAF nations, which would in turn keep them as the dominant force in the continent

@MrKyledane

5 ай бұрын

@@ThroneFC I just don't think that "same rhythm" was possible given the different starting points.

Pochos like me need to stop attending the "Moletour" games too. That is making the federation tons of money they'd never have playing in Mexico. Everything is over-priced just to see them tie against Jamaica or Uzbekistan. Pathetic asf!

Great video . Copa America is going to to be rough for Mexico to say the least .

If your mom and dad don’t have money you WILL not play in mexicos top youth academy’s like they do in other countries for free

Sad that people don't see it this way

You need to be up somewhere in the first place to even be able to fall

Almost a perfect video, you forgot to take a look at the gambling mafia that owns almost all casinos in mexico, bcs they are also responsible for the mediocre tv super stars and the league system circus. Also talking about how baffling the sport development is in mexico, I lived until college in the north west of mexico (in this part of mexico the only good sport development we have is in baseball, and we have second division teams of football that cant ascend to liga mx with poor youth development) I had lots of friends that where super good at football, one of them was a left winger and he even got accepted in the Roma youth academy but with no loans, at the end he couldn’t do nothing because he had no money nor a privet agent that would be willing to pay for him, and of course in mexico if you are not a rich kid you cant do nothing. Now he just got graduated form college and he is a normal dude with a frustrated dream of becoming a professional footballer. (The saddest part was that he wasn’t even a poor person, he could even afford a good UNI in mexico, if he couldnt I don’t know how poor people could) Also all my friends dropped their sport talent and became just a bunch of drunk college students, some of them are gonna be doctors or lawyers. Definitely thats something I appreciate of America, Brazil and Argentina, where with talent and har work you can have opportunities with the sport one day, but not in mexico they all drop the towel in high-school and start changing the sport for alcohol and parties because of the baffling reality of how null the sport development is in mexico (not mentioning that we are #1 country in obesity rate), I hope some day intelligent people will manage to change those thing for the good health and sake of mexico in general, a country that is run by los of evil business man in every aspect of our society.

@ThroneFC

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for adding your perspective as a Mexican, it adds another depth to the video 👌

U seriously hope Mexico gets embarrassed by Panama and in the Copa America. Maybe then they might actually change

@cluckingduck2576

5 ай бұрын

Mexico performed terribly in the 2022 world cup and it seems like they haven't changed for the better yet. If a humiliating Copa America run doesn't change them we're screwed. I just wanna see Mexico be a good team and be a contender for the world cup and Copa America 😭

@edbrown4800

5 ай бұрын

@@cluckingduck2576bruh Mexico was bad in 2018 and 2010 as well. People forget there almost eliminated from the World Cup in 2013!!!

@victorfortunato

5 ай бұрын

​@@cluckingduck2576never we're a good team, ok at best

4:08 it doesn’t work that way, my man. The national team isn’t for “giving players opportunity to bear burden or responsibility” that’s what club level play is for. You prove yourself in clubs first and then you get the chance to prove it for the national team it’s that simple. Some players perform better in better clubs for more games in a row or more importantly in better leagues hence the domestic league(liga mx) players don’t get the chance. Why would I bench one of my players from a European league for a liga mx player who is used to playing against bums?that being said it would take exceptionally good performances in a lower tier league to give them a spot

This video hits all the right points!!

The reason for Mexico downfall is the corruption of the Liga Mx. The League focus on msking money than the football. Not a lot of young players dont get q A chance to debut.

Oh boy, if you think pay to play is an issue in Mexico, you should definitely make a video on the system in the US. I did a whole research paper on it in college, it’s an unfair system that overlooks the lower class.

This is what i have been saying to many mexico fans but unfortunately a lot of them dont wanna hear it. What’s even worse is you have players with dual US-Mexico citizenship who wanna play for mexico without thinking it through. Mexican-American players almost NEVER get a chance with Mexico. And i think the media probably influences it like you mentioned in the video along with pressure from family and friends. Mexican-American players have a higher chance of playing for the USA than they do with Mexico.

Welp after seeing Chile video I was expecting this video 😢

5:09 This is a painfully accurate description of the vicious cycle corrupting not only the sport but also many other areas in this country. There's an old saying here that encompasses how it feels: "The worst enemy of a Mexican is another Mexican"

Thanks someone is being super honest for once.. I like this video a lot cuz Mexico soccer is going downhill

Most of their raw talent ends up either in MLS or the USL teams in the USA.

Mexico were never good outside of CONCACAF, fans expect way too much from the national team, when in reality the team has always been mediocre. The players are decent, but they’re just not as good as Mexico fans hype them up to be. Mexico has been decent but that doesn’t equate to being good. All Mexico care about is money.

You forgot another reason. Other teams are just getting better. After the World Cup in 2026, we shalll see a huge interest in the sport moreso than today

Facts!!!

4:53 This is harsh on Chicharito. He was a big part of Manchester United until 2015. Overall, this was a fascinating video though

Tuca ferreti, a Legendary coach said in tv that the veterans called " Holly cows" while he was coach of the National team, he didnt want the Holly cows in the team but the sponsors want them yo film tv adds and everything, so he was forced kindly, we as fans wants 2nd divission clubs in first divission, face Libertadores but the owners just want US dollars, did a cup among almost all mls team and all from liga MX, the liga MX was stopped +- 3 weeks in the beggining of the MX league, also 3 enterprises are owners of 2 teams each one, sad but we are not coming to the stadium, is not more interesting

Man it’s crazy to think that because the upper people only care about money us the fans are suffering. I talked to a guy from Europe about soccer and he said man over there you don’t even have to pay to be ina good academy while over in Mex and even in USA we got to pay for tryouts then more if we advance. It’s crazy to see that the players that are better than the sons of guys with money don’t get a chance to develop. Money guy pays for his son to play while broke kid just watch’s and just waste time and his talent there. Once the people stop watching…they’ll see

We could bring Piojo, Almada, Guardiola or whomever, but the issue is so systemic that the 2026 WC will likely be tough. It will take a long time, the same way it took a while to get here. Key is not to punt it anymore and take action now so maybe in the 2030s we have a good team.

@prodbyrobak3150

2 ай бұрын

idk simpsons says diff

I’m very happy with my 2012 victory against Brazil with Neymar and Thiago Silva

You know it’s corrupt when they keep having friendlies in the US and never in Mexico . Shame on the Federation . National Teams use to fear playing at Azteca .

Sad downfall money is most important. Players who want to leave are stopped by the club and put a big number on upcoming players in order to have control over them. The federation doesn’t care and only cares about playing in the US to bring dollars in and not pesos. No freshness in the squad and they play the same players over and over no matter if they’re in good or bad form. The Mexican league is full of international players and lacks competition. The federation only plays against mls due to the money and make excuses to not enter libertadores. They let the money take control so much that leagues cup (shitty tournament) is only played in the US and not Mexico.

I mostly blame the fans who keep watching Liga mx. By doing this you are enabling mediocrity. as soon as they got rid of relegation, and Copa liberators fans still keep feeding into liga mx pockets by watching it. Not to mention most of the TV broad casters own these clubs so its in their best interest to keep these teams from being relegated.

Ghana national team downfall needs to be spoken about

@ThroneFC

5 ай бұрын

Noted✔️

Yo soy colombiano y desde aqui puedo ver el negocio que montaron :v Acá en colombia las escuelas de fútbol particulares si se puede llamar así tienen convenio con equipos profesionales y los clubes mandan ojeadores

everything went downhill after covid, also they should REALLY bring back long tournaments (like in europe), relegate the bottom 3 of the league and stop with that play-off format. but lets be real, i dont see that happening anytime soon.

Our best player right now is Alvarez and he’s a defender. We’re fudged 😢

@mikecortez4658

5 ай бұрын

we have some ballers. Lozano, raul, santi

@jackeddemon

5 ай бұрын

@@mikecortez4658 haha. No

@adrianreyes6671

5 ай бұрын

@@mikecortez4658 lozano has been living off a goal his whole career and right now he hasn’t really shown much. Raul is the not the same player and santi hasn’t really done anything

They used to be a 6/10 national team and now they’re a 5/10 team, how is that a downfall? 🤣

@ThroneFC

5 ай бұрын

Being a top 15 nation in the world for over 20 years and then falling off qualifies as a downfall to me. Besides they were always a hard team to beat in the World Cup

@victorfortunato

5 ай бұрын

Come on, they were a top 15 nation because they were and they are playing against teams like Surinam, Curazao, Trinidad y Tobago, cuba, etc etc, and Sincé 1986 they don't quarter finals

I’m sorry but this video didn’t expose a single fact that all watchers of Liga MX already know and are frustrated about

@ThroneFC

5 ай бұрын

But this is not solely for watchers of Liga MX it's for every football fan

@JaRa911

5 ай бұрын

@@ThroneFC nobody else cares about Liga MX the people that care already know the BS

@ThroneFC

5 ай бұрын

@@JaRa911 There are many curious fans that like to know what's going on all around the football world. Of course this video might resonate with Mexicans a bit more, but I got people from various countries watching that have no idea how f'd up Mexico's football system is nowadays

Blame telerisa mikel and the pochos in the usa

hehehe 🇨🇷 2 - 1 🇲🇽 Brasil 2014 Qualifers

@AADP

5 ай бұрын

But do you have the worst goalkeeper of the world? I dont think so

I doubt Mexico is definitely going to be a powerhouse of young players in the future and they can for sure be a threat in World Cup or Copa America

@victorfortunato

5 ай бұрын

Jajajajajajaja ok You can dream about it

@WealthyFuture777

5 ай бұрын

@@victorfortunato look at the stats and compare it to Brazils uprise in player performance

@victorfortunato

5 ай бұрын

@@WealthyFuture777 jajajajajajaja jajaja no hay near Even of Uruguay

@WealthyFuture777

5 ай бұрын

@victorfortunato maybe if you spelled correctly you would understand

@victorfortunato

5 ай бұрын

@@WealthyFuture777I can make mistakes writing, but México is no way near, Even You can use Google and found that the CIES football observatorio establish that the top three are France, Brazil, argentina, México, Colombia number 8, Mexico is not even in the top 20, go cry somewere else,

Yeah there is too much money being made in liga mx. At this rate Canada or US will have a world cup before mexico. That is unless the system in mexico makes a drastic change immediately. Though i don't see it happening.

Julian 😢

Jamaica is no slouch either.

I dont know why anyone would offended by anything you said. It is the sad reality of Mexican football. I'd just add the fans as part of the problem, because if they keep supporting the awful league we have here then the people,e in power will keep doing the same: if for example people stopped going to the stadiums and watching the games on TV the owner would eventually be forced to make a change.

This is a great company. The marketing department is amazing. Manipulation is key for more $$. Fuck winning a world cup, let's go to America and play against low ranked nations and make dollars

all of this stems from the ownership of televisa of the league and national team.

The liga mx one is not really a problem I think it makes it better because anyone can win so it’s not a boring league such as la liga , Uber eats , Bundesliga and more

@ThroneFC

5 ай бұрын

It might be entertaining but it doesn't reward consistency. Besides, no relegation and no qualification to Libertadores really harm the players' development

@cisco999

5 ай бұрын

A variety of winners doesn't always mean better quality. Having this type of league format only promotes mediocrity since you can piss about for parts of the season with hardly any consequences and only turn up when you need to.

As a mexican, I am half offended, half not.Half becuase yes, Mexico has been bad at football lately, but on the other half, there not that bad at football and how dare you compare my country.I respect the USA, but comparing Mexico to Canada or Panama???

They were very good when chicarito was on the team

It’s the culture and mentality

I think all this is BS. When the whistle blows its 11 vs 11..... football is a sport and all sportsmen want the opportunity to win. If we didn't get far in the world cup its bad luck combined with limited talent. Personally, i didn't like the coach leading us, a known Messi lover.

If us the fans would stop attending the games and watching the games on television believe me they would change. They keep feeding us garbage and we keep buying it thats why they keep doing it. When we decide to stop buying thats when the change will come.

1. Not enough players playing in top UEFA clubs 2. Weak domestic league 3. Televisa's iron grip on the national team and its roster choice 4. Focusing on older iconic players rather than giving young players developmental opportunities

I mean Usa did make it to the semi finals in the first ever world cup but ok

@victorfortunato

5 ай бұрын

Because almost 100 years ago reached semis doesn't make it better

I agree with everything you said except for Ochoa . He is by far better than any other mexican goalkeeper at the moment . There are a few keepers who are always mentioned but they all play in Liga Mx and never stood out like ochoa did early in his career at america . They should definitely play other goalkeepers in the friendly matches against low class competition, to figure out the backup and next up, but for ochoa needs to be top choice keeper for serious matches . It doesn’t make sense to me to send in a Liga MX goalie to play against the best countries, they are going to be nervous and are not at the level of european competition. Then worst of all , even if they got a game or two of experience, there’s no point since they are just going to return to the mediocre land of Liga MX and not get any better. Unless someone makes the leap to europe, even if its not a top 5 , i think Ochoa should have the number one choice spot

@Luigicastillo4

5 ай бұрын

Ochoa is very very mediocre, AVERAGE at best, stop trying to defend him. The only attribute Ochoa had in his career was reflexes and it’s quite clear he’s even losing that due to age. Don’t say there aren’t other keepers in the league, there’s Malagon, Cota and González but sure keep believing the lie TUDN has been saying for 15 years, that Ochoa is “world class”

@778piggy

5 ай бұрын

@@Luigicastillo4 I never said memo is world class and he also never has been. He’s not even on a good club team lol. Yeah and I literally said that there are a few goalkeepers mentioned (Malagon, Acevedo, and the others you named) . but like i said they all play in LIGA MX , a mediocre ass league. Ochoa is rn continuously playing high level competition matches and facing shots from top level players in Europe . He is constantly being tested on his shitty team and is sharp because of it. In Liga MX the competition is no where near that level , keepers can spill the ball and the strikers wont punish them for it . There is a big difference between facing shots year round from AC Milan , Inter, Juventos, Roma vs facing year round shots from America, Chivas , Tigres. If a mexican goalie were to make the jump to any of the top leagues ranked 1-9 , then i would 100% support them being mexico top pick. and I also think ochoa should play in the meaningless matches and that should be an opportunity for someone else. Ochoa at 38 is still taking risks and paycuts just to play in europe, even if his only opportunities are from relegation teams , no other keeper is take any other risks, i dont think they deserve it

@Squidwardpilled

5 ай бұрын

Raul Gudiño would have been a great replacement for Ochoa, but due to Ochoa being at America at the time , he was robbed of an opportunity, due to televisa owning America, and they want their players on the national team! That’s why Malagon is on the team despite him being a bad gk.

@ThroneFC

5 ай бұрын

@@Squidwardpilled I haven't heard the name Raul Gudiño in years! Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure he was playing in Europe with FC Porto

@778piggy

5 ай бұрын

@@ThroneFC He was playing in the porto B team in second division . Then he was loaned to another second division Portugal team, barely played . Then was sent to a league in a country most people have never heard of and only played in 2 games , believe it or not one was actually a champion league match lol . Then he gave up on the European pursuit and went to Mexico/MLS. He was never at the level to be great

At least Mexico is kind of heading in the right direction and also it’s not the federation that tells the coaches what players bring there either to arrogant or think bringing 21 year olds won’t help 😂

@cisco999

5 ай бұрын

Lol Tuca and several other managers have confirmed that they don't have the final say in the squad

@Clips_FN

5 ай бұрын

@@cisco999 Nah Jaime confirmed that if the federation ever told him what players to bring he would quit his job

@ignaciocalymayor8278

5 ай бұрын

​@@Clips_FNNot that I don't believe Jaime, but what did you expect him to say? "Ah yes, they give me a list of players"?

@Clips_FN

5 ай бұрын

@@ignaciocalymayor8278 Also it makes since when Tuca was manager Mexico we’re playing good now we’re playing bad so obviously the federation has to switch something cause if Mexico doesn’t perform well they won’t get people wanting to go and watch games but merchandise and all that crap

@cisco999

5 ай бұрын

​@Clips_FN I doubt Jaime really meant that. Pretty sure Azcarraga told him to say that so people could stop calling Femexfut out of their bullshit. If Jaime were truly in charge Malagon would be starting over the golden boy Ochoa along with many other things.

gold cup is not real tournament. U.S sends their B C team. Mexico sends their wc team.

They don’t have the best World Cup record The USA has a third place Mexico just don’t miss many but that’s cause they’re superior to the rest of the region or were for years They also have the World Cup record of the team with the most loses and last places in history Mexico is a mid team and people overhype them just because they have a good culture This is a soccer nation that just isn’t that good

We are fucked

Y’all had to be up to have a downfall just saying

chicha didn’t fail at all he won a lot of titles and played a lot of the games at man u and scored pretty good . he’s def no failure he won alot of trophies with diff teams .

Y’all still decent to be fair, but USMNT is your daddy now

@MrNitro071

2 ай бұрын

And the rest of the world is USMNT's daddy.

cartels lol

yep u guys operate ur clubs like american clubs why ur going dowhill all about money lol