The Untold Story Of The Original Tesla Roadster
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The Tesla Roadster's Origin Story - What They Didn't Tell You
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@Unbiased321
3 ай бұрын
Awesome video! There are so many internet conspiracy theories about how Tesla was started so good to see a video that gives you the full scope of what happend.
@Starship007
3 ай бұрын
Remember the real Tesla and Edison’s Westinghouse.
@PuffyRule
3 ай бұрын
you close ItsYoboy channel?
@danwhiffen9235
3 ай бұрын
Good video covering a lot of murky recent history in 20min
As someone who has followed the Tesla story in real time since around 2005 this is one of the better and more accurate accounts of that time period. Well done.
One small correction. Elon likes Marc Tarpenning a lot and has referred to him as being the nicest guy ever. He has mentioned this several times. IRRC, Martin is the only one that he hates passionately because of how careless he was being with Elon's money and then lying to his face about the costs/timeline of the Roadster project. Elon had already been made aware of this before he confronted Martin and this infuriated him to the point that he forced the board to fire Martin. Other than that, this was well researched video and pretty much in line with what I remember. Also helped fill in a few pieces I had missed here and there.
@ZenZaBill
Ай бұрын
True... Elon did not like Martin, but let Marc stay on... I worked as a direct report to Marc... very nice guy. [Edit]: The original Tesla Roadster that I worked on in 2008 is the most fun car I ever drove, and I was a Porsche 944 driver at the time. My name is on the Signature Series badge inside between the seats.
To put the early days of Tesla Motors in perspective: check the employee number of the first employees of the company. Eberhard, Tarpenning and Wright founded the company in 2003. They were employees #1, #2 and #3. When Musk and Straubel joined a year later they were employees #4 and #5... In between nothing happened; no design, no deal with Lotus yet, not even the legal rights to the name. Which means Musk and Straubel are founding members of Tesla just as much as the others.
@Punklusky
3 ай бұрын
Not as much funding member. Way more funding member.
@yootoober2009
3 ай бұрын
true
@gwbuilder5779
3 ай бұрын
Actually, according to patent, copyrights, and official founding documents, all were filed by Elon Musk legally making him the official founder of Tesla and SpaceX. The difficulties in the beginning are not a secret. Everyone excepted the whole thing to collapse and the feds were apparently preparing to investigate when Elon invested the $20,000,000 and took direct control of the company, all the while saying he didn't want to be the CEO, thus all of the other appointees. Clearly we can see who the successful one is, so there really is no question about who actually made Tesla what it is. The fact that the original electric cart designer stayed with Elon and redesigned the entire vehicle says it all.🤙
@barttemolder3405
3 ай бұрын
@@Punklusky True! I meant to say founding member though and corrected it in the OP. Thanks :)
@robertweekley5926
3 ай бұрын
@ Punklusky - Edit that! (Otherwise it looks like like you you stuttered stuttered! 🙄)
I appreciate the time and effort put into these quality videos. Great job!
@TheTeslaSpace
3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
Very impressive and professional video well done mate!
Nice vid!
Thanks for the video, great watch!
Well researched and what I found from following Tesla for years also.
Bottom line: the company, Tesla as it exists now, would not have happened without someone like Elon Musk as CEO, whether one approves of his mo or not.
@AudiTTQuattro2003
3 ай бұрын
...that is true of the original founders too. Both can be true.
@migmigjohnson9351
3 ай бұрын
To top it off, the Model S and everything that followed was all him. If anything, what he got from them was the idea to sell to the rich and work their way down, which is the reason ICE manufacturers didn’t see him as a threat, until it was too late.
@Brianmatthewward
3 ай бұрын
@@AudiTTQuattro2003the original founders had one employee, no BOD, a handshake agreement with a car manufacturer that turned out to provide little to no final components of the company’s first product and then 33% left while the other 66% were fired from their positions. They wouldn’t have even had the name.
@TheProperEdikit
3 ай бұрын
Amen!!! He overcame the machine that killed electric cars in the early 20th century, when more electric cars were produced than petrol... Now that day is coming back a century later...
@lwwells
3 ай бұрын
SqQueEeEeeeeee [angry disapproving Karen noises]
One of your best!
There are some fascinating facts in this video. Thank you for sharing.
Great work. This was amazing
A nicely balanced video, well researched.
Well written excellent video! Thank you.
An improbable journey to success for an exceptionally brilliant and talented determined individual. As a founder I know that the person who built the company and brought it to profitability is the one that matters regardless of who started it.
@AudiTTQuattro2003
3 ай бұрын
Which only makes it more ridiculous to say the original founders didn't contribute anything but the idea. Elon has a way of taking credit alone from the thousands are hard working people at Tesla, and you fanboys let him like fawning teenagers.
@yootoober2009
3 ай бұрын
@@AudiTTQuattro2003 If both Eberhard /Tarpening and Musk/Straubel started separately working on their EVs, who would probably get to the first prototype, first product and first production vehicle? Then who would have the first production line and subsequent model(s)? Eberhard and Tarpening had a headstart and investor and failed to produce a saleable product nor a viable prototype until Musk and Straubel got involved with the development of the idea of their commercial electric vehicle. Ford made the first successful commercial gas car, not Daimler not Benz... Musk bought the trademark Tesla.... and the rest of Tesla's history belongs to them.
@DigSamurai
3 ай бұрын
@@AudiTTQuattro2003 That kind of low resolution thinking makes it clear you've never built a successful company. I'm a fanboy of Elon Musk because he's a brilliant engineer who's built not one, but two impossibly difficult companies. As an entrepreneur I've learned more from him than everyone else combined.
Really good, thanks.
Wow. Well done video. Great research.
Love it.👍👍
Sem palavras esse documentários
JB is the real founder of Tesla
Very nice story ... Clear and verifiable, all facts check out ...
The core point of the company that became Tesla is that Eberhard and Tarpenning were joined by Musk and Straubel. Even though Elon and JB had known about AC Propulsion and the TZero as well, they were advised to team up with Martin and Marc. So, arguably the Eberhard/Tarpenning pair were the founders. But of a company with no name. By the time Tesla was named, by buying "Tesla" for $75k from a guy who wasn't keen on selling, the four had come together. Incidentally, although Musk thinks Eberhard is a douch, he actually likes/liked Tarpenning. Apparently, everybody liked Marc Tarpenning. EDIT: I should add that this video is about as accurate a history of the those early days as I can think of. There's truth on both sides here. I started following Tesla right around the botched Top Gear review of the original Roadster in 2008. Picked up every scrap of info I could ever since then.
Excellent video. Much appreciated.
I use to live in San Carlos, CA (where "Tesla" was located in the early years). For the most part, this video is the most accurate I've seen.
That was a great video... thanks
Very relevant info
good video!
Good to hear the shout out to Alan Cocconi and the Tzero ^_^
@karlInSanDiego
3 ай бұрын
That shoutout was done wrong. AC Propulsion is a Southern California (San Dimas) company that JB Straubel did NOT found or even work at. JB Straubel had no experience with working on a project with AC Propulsion that we know of. He was working in aerospace in another part of California. Wally Rippel, Alan Cocconi (key members of GM Impact aka EV1), Tom Gage and Paul Carosa at AC Propulsion should be credited with T-Zero. JB Straubel didn't even suggest LIon batteries for that car. Eberhard has stated that he did, but AC Propulsion claim they had already been working on it. AC Propulsion used 18650 cells. They get credit for that first, whether Eberhard suggested it or not. JB Straubel's experience with electric cars came from his university work with the Stanford Solar Car Project team and building his own EV, but professionally at Rosen Motors, their hybrid car used a mechanical flywheel to store energy. Clearly, Straubel is a key member of making the first Tesla. I think it's fair to say JB Straubel was part of the problems and solutions at early Tesla as they all were learning to design a car and make a safe battery.
I notice that the 'founders' of Tesla had no real plan. They had an IDEA but those are a dime a dozen.
Even in the beginning your narrative is wrong. The EV1 was not the first US electric car. In the early days of automobiles in the US electric cars prevailed, even with weak batteries because there were so many injuries from accidents hand cranking the engines on ICE vehicles. This changed with the development of the electric starter. Also, GM did not develop the "idea" of a modern electric car. That was forced on all the auto makers by a California law. The auto industry fought the law, and when they won destroyed their electric cars.
@matthewwiemken7293
3 ай бұрын
Yeah lol.. The model T didn't sell at all and had electric starters all over the place lmao:)
@MarkWebbJohnson
3 ай бұрын
@@matthewwiemken7293 Practical, commercially available electric vehicles appeared during the 1890s. An electric vehicle held the vehicular land speed record until around 1900. The Ford Model T was 1908 onwards.
@davidmenasco5743
3 ай бұрын
@@matthewwiemken7293It's been pretty well reported that between internal combustion, steam power and electric, the electric cars were the most popular for about ten years. They were much more stable and less temperamental than early combustion cars.
T-Zero used a 1 speed gearbox. Tesla Roadster initially used the 2 speed to try to make it fast.
Very interesting story. I can’t comment on the accuracy of this account but I will add this. I met Martin in 2009 because our daughters were doing gymnastics together. His wife went to the university of Illinois where I was a graduate student and she remembered me as her TA. Anyway I do remember him talking about Tesla. He is an amazing technologist and extremely talented guy for sure and incredibly arrogant to go with it. I have to say I can totally relate to Musks 1:36 comment regarding Martin being difficult to work with.
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The first electric car was built in 1888, not the GM EV1
@marcsequence
3 ай бұрын
Was America even alive back then??
@ChuuckKnight
3 ай бұрын
FALSE
Amazing how the Prius car was the first hybrid vs a truck or suv with more battery space
Registering a company is something anyone can do ... The hard part is making it into an actual company that produces actual products, in mass. Many, many smart people have tried and failed at building an electric vehicle company. Or even an electric car division. Elon Musk is the guy that made Tesla into what it is.
GREAT , BALANCED , UNEMOTIONAL / FACTUAL , CREDIT : WHER CREDIT IS DUE !
Just let their track records speak for themselves, what have Eberhard and Tarpening achieved since and what has Musk done with his life? Who do you think would then be more likely instrumental in Tesla's success?
If Elon Musk build Electric Hydrogen Hybrid Tesla Vehicles, it would be a massive improvement, and it would be very good for our Environment.
2 different cars
Thank you Elon
I mean whatever it is it takes a whole other beast to take it to the scales and also to create mass produced new technologies aka EV’s model y,3 and new stuff ai coming up
And now you know.....the rest of the story!
Lotus sportster I'm sure was a better outcome than a Porsche roadster.
I wish they still sold roadsters :(
Where are those "brilliant" people who claim Tesla was stolen from them
❤😂🎉 incredible
You missed quite a few major things. For instance, the doomed 2 speed transmission was Musks idea and the cost blow outs were due to Musks changes. Additionally, on the cost per car being too high, the first cars to come of any lot are always at a loss. Do you really think Tesla is making profit off each cybertruck currently? Or is it more likely they have dumped hundreds of millions of dollars into it and need to sell tens or hundreds of thousands of them to break even? Just think critically about some of Musks claims for a second and a lot of them fall apart (or he contradicts himself when you compare his words from one project to another).
@AudiTTQuattro2003
3 ай бұрын
Great response. Musk is a master at branding himself at the expense of other peoples work.
@segstron
3 ай бұрын
@AudiTTQuattro2003 This is how employee value works for all companies. I do a good job and make my boss look good, and in turn he makes his boss look good by managing/hiring me. Every successful company in existence works this way. If you are no longer making your boss look good, you are no longer needed.
I like Untold Stories hue hue hue :D
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I thought this well known but of course reality is rarely visited by USA
Excellent, thank you! :)
Very surprised to only see 26,000 views after 2 weeks. But I guess everyone(!) knows the story of Elon’s Tesla 😉.
Dude the Tesla roadster didn’t exist at all before he took over.
Is the goal to replace the real life experience with artificial one ?
Dude. I've seen a lot of documentaries on KZreads about Tesla Motors... and your version is completely different than what everyone else was saying.
@eugeniustheodidactus8890
3 ай бұрын
Musk stole Tesla from the two founders. Then, he evicted residents of Boca Chica by gunpoint with a private military, to set up fakeX. A real *psychopath.*
The ❤ Of My L I F E !
"partial zero emissions" 🤣
I beleive the other two guys.
In the famous quote of Jay-Z, if you built tesla go build another one
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3 ай бұрын
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3 ай бұрын
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3 ай бұрын
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@lazyas8016
3 ай бұрын
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3 ай бұрын
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Elon has told his side of the story, and I believe him!
THE EV1 IS NOT THE FIRST ELECTRIC CAR.
Electric cars were made 100 years ago, there were even public chargers in N.Y.C., yet somehow TESLA was the pioneer? Ok, Dude.
@fredbloggs5902
3 ай бұрын
Those were lead-acid. It was Lithium-ion’s higher energy density that produced the practical range needed today.
@yootoober2009
3 ай бұрын
So Ford is not the pioneer of commercial gas cars?
@douglaspeale9727
3 ай бұрын
@@fredbloggs5902 You need to read up a bit on early electric cars. It was not the short range of the lead acid battery that killed them, it was the inability of the industry to create a viable charging network. If the industry had gotten its act together, the electric car might have won out over gas.
@fredbloggs5902
3 ай бұрын
@@douglaspeale9727 “Electric cars were limited to urban use by their slow speed (no more than 24-32 km/h or 15-20 mph[41]) and low range (50-65 km or 30-40 miles[41]), and gasoline cars were now able to travel farther and faster than equivalent electrics”. - Wikipedia This is due to the low energy density of lead-acid.
@fredbloggs5902
3 ай бұрын
‘Pioneer’: verb develop or be the first to use or apply (a new method, area of knowledge, or activity). Tesla pioneered the use of lithium-ion in cars. Ok Dude?
Nurp… Americas first electric car is well over 100 years old. Just sayin ask Jay Leno he has one.
What are you doing here? Spot oil was never even close to $700+ a barrel and the EV-1 WAS NOT America's first all-electric car.
@danwhiffen9235
3 ай бұрын
I blinked at that too. It was a weird b-roll graphic when he could have just pulled charts from back in 05-08 of the run-up, but I guess general production of KZread videos needs to be kept minimal since revenue is so slim. Without looking it up, I recall 147 USD WTI peak before it crashed in summer 08? I didn’t find the early days electric car omission that big a deal since that wasn’t the topic of the video really.
The Tesla roadster was not the first production vehicle in the 21st century or 20th century... check your facts...
Tell the real story about how I own and fund my company called Tesla
Everyone likes to shit on Eberhard and Tarpenning, but don't act like you'd know how to build an electric car company either. Most people would do as poorly or worse than Eberhard and Tarpenning. At least they have the rocket book to show for lol
The real true story is that without money you can do a thing 😅 I always blamed Elon but without him there would be no Tesla at least not what it is now 🎉
Love Elon. But can’t deny he lies all the time. Toughie
The original founders should be acknowledged. The important thing is that Musk didn't found the company. He joined it! Great video mate, cheers!!!
@Pehz63
3 ай бұрын
Why is that important? How do you even define "found"? Is there even a formal definition? What's so important about using one definition and not another? How do you explain the fact that legally Musk is considered one of the founders?
@keitha.9788
3 ай бұрын
I lived and worked in Silicon Valley for many years. and lived in San Carlos where "Tesla" was located. Anybody can be the "founder" of a company. All you have to do is to legally establish it on paper. That is the easy part. Whether or not it is a success, is entirely another matter. The vast majority of Silicon Valley start-ups fail, period..... There are a huge number of engineers in Silicon Valley, but very few people have the ability to take a concept of a product and turn it into a viable product that can be manufactured and sold and making the company profitable...
@eugeniustheodidactus8890
3 ай бұрын
@@Pehz63 "found" is what happens when someone finds something they want, and steals it .... such as the founding of America.
The EV-1 was not America's first electric car. There were more electric cars than there were gas cars 100 years ago.
@mboiko
3 ай бұрын
It was the first EV of the modern era to make a significant showing here in the US.
@Resist4
3 ай бұрын
@@mboiko but that’s not what was said in the video.
@mboiko
3 ай бұрын
@@Resist4 "The EV-1 was the first purpose-designed electric vehicle of the modern era from a major automaker and the first GM car designed to be an electric vehicle from the outset" - Wikipedia Most people understand this video is about "Modern Era" EVs and not 1900 turn-of-the-century lead-acid (mostly NYC EVs), but maybe you could ask the content creator...to put an asterisk in for you.
@Resist4
3 ай бұрын
@@mboiko and again not what was said in the video.
it wasn't Elon lol
@fredbloggs5902
3 ай бұрын
Grow up
One has to consider the fact that one iteration of Tesla works and one didn't! For all you Musk haters get over it. Business is the story of winners and lovers and Elon is a perpetual winner
Nice, but this story is well known
This is why the entire rest of the world wants to be in the United States of America. Vote carefully if you want this to continue.
The EV1 was certainly NOT America's first electric car! EVs are > 100 years old.
Some small facts are wrong, I have personly heard Elon give credit to Eberhardt and Tarpening as well as AC Propulsion at one of his vehicle launches.
Musk wasn't the original CEO of Tesla
Tesla was a shell company until elon took over. There was no employee, so those who attack elon as not being the founder or responsible for tesla success don’t know what they’re talking about
@AudiTTQuattro2003
3 ай бұрын
...just the greatest idea for a company, similar to Apple.
@yootoober2009
3 ай бұрын
true
Borrowed vs stealing hmm 🤔
@fredbloggs5902
3 ай бұрын
Who did either?
@krismcfarlane6495
3 ай бұрын
@@fredbloggs5902 nobody truly knows
@fredbloggs5902
3 ай бұрын
Cluelessness confirmed 🙄
So as Elon said nothing was actually done before he got in it was simply an idea.. Elon actually got it done
GM is Tesla 🫣
I knew you were going to turn on him the moment you refused to talk about the Twitter takeover and the restoration of freedom of speech on the internet 😅
@John-Edward
3 ай бұрын
I think it is a very fair analysis of the story.
@fredbloggs5902
3 ай бұрын
Grow up
@Tuck_Frump
3 ай бұрын
Nothing was restored. Elon saves billions not spending money on advertisement. Elon buying Twitter was a slap on the face for company who spend billions on advertising. Also it was a known fact Elon was an investor with Tesla but to make the roadster Elon has to use his own money and was also CEO of space X.
@danwhiffen9235
3 ай бұрын
@@Tuck_Frumpwhat are you talking about?? Isn’t there a ledge somewhere you should be standing on
@Tuck_Frump
3 ай бұрын
@@danwhiffen9235 naw . . . it's a fact. Elon doesn't spend money on advertising. He doesn't believe in it and idiots like you think he's wrong. Well that sh*t purchase he made was proof you pro-advertising were wrong. You see . .. you think advertising means everything for big business. This is the platform you believe.
first
@Poxenium
3 ай бұрын
lol. check the timestamps again.
@Space_Kade
3 ай бұрын
How
@rcaircorps7757
3 ай бұрын
Oh, I guess that other comment didn't load until I commented -- Sorry! @@Poxenium
@Poxenium
3 ай бұрын
@@rcaircorps7757 😎👍
This is the best breakdown i’ve heard so far. Just need to keep in mind that much of the Elon side of the story was based on Elon’s recollection and Elon lies and embellishes without abandon.. ie, must apply the “Elon Factor” to anything he claims.
Elon bought Tesla. TESLA ALREADY EXCITED. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT
Tldr. Musk made Tesla successful. Some people participated in the journey. The end.
Not totally true bro, and you are downplaying Elon's role at Tesla, not cool
Seriously WHO CARES If Eberhardt could have done it, he would’ve!!! Who started it… doesn’t matter. Who made it happen matters and there is no dispute that Musk made it happen.
It doesn't even matter. The 2 original founders aren't there, the money guy who sucked in the investment cash ended up running the thing. Everything else is just kvetching and posturing. What matters is the present, and what's happening TODAY. Digging deep into philosophy I believe the principle is best illustrated from the Lion King movie, where Rafiki whacks the cub in the face with a stick , he whines "whatja do that for" and get the answer - "It doesn't mahta, it's in the pahst"... MOVE ON
anyone that's interested in the truth watch common sense sceptic, not a tesla Elon fan boy.
@Trahloc
3 ай бұрын
They get credit for choosing the Tesla name and doing the organizational paperwork. I've done that for multiple companies. It takes zero effort for anyone who knows what they're doing. What have they done since? Ian Wright went on to create Wrightspeed in 2005. As of 2024 their website doesn't have any photos or videos of actual products non-investor/partner customers have received. The x1 is from 2007. The only video they have on youtube is about a turbine generator. Marc Tarpenning spends his days speaking on boards and schmoozing not actually creating anything. Martin Eberhard built a stealth company which he promptly sold and then left before starting another company which might as well be stealth as its website only contains a poorly scaled image. Maybe it'll be amazing, somehow, I doubt it. Of the three, Wright is the only one dedicated to doing something and folks barely give him any credit as a founder compared to Marc and Martin.
@fredbloggs5902
3 ай бұрын
You’re utterly clueless, you probably follow Thunderf00t as well 🙄
@AudiTTQuattro2003
3 ай бұрын
@@Trahloc...sure, but Elon started "the Boring Company" and "Hyperloop", both of which were hugely dumb ideas. Wasted billions, so in some ways he is the same as them.
@AudiTTQuattro2003
3 ай бұрын
@@fredbloggs5902...Thunderf00t is the bomb. No sugar coating, just the raw data.
@Trahloc
3 ай бұрын
@@AudiTTQuattro2003 actually Elon has nothing to do with Hyperloop the company. As for thinderf00t, look into the controversy that happened between him and Sargon of Akkad and tell me about "raw data". I used to donate to him monthly until I learned he is very creative in his editing practices. Cherry picking data is about as opposite to raw data as you can get. Him and Ansel Keys are ideological kin. After learning that unless he's talking about nuclear physics I have zero trust.
Love this Tesla History lesson! Tesla rules !!!!Thanks a lot!!But TSLA @ THE dip!!, become a Teslanaire!🤑, and 🛑🛢️⛽