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@380illion-peron

23 күн бұрын

It's nice because I know both English and Spanish

@stevetamacc

23 күн бұрын

Rob, you need to come to the Rio Grande Valley in Texas where we speak a unique dialect of English and Spanish called TexMex or Spanglish. We're on the border on the southern tip of Texas. It's a little more Spanish than English, but it is very distinct. We have advertisments in this dialect: Electronic Tax Center - Lightning Fast Dinero. We hear them on the radio, TV and on billboards. Also, every hispanic person that has a Spanish name, changes it to the English version: my name is Esteban Lopez, but everyone calls me Steve for example. You should make a trip out here! I could hook you up with a professor here at the University of Texas Rio Grande Valley in Edinburg, TX. The food is also a blend of American and Mexican. The food is amazing!

@CallMeThyme

23 күн бұрын

Neat

@eekee6034

23 күн бұрын

I think/wonder if it's like watching the dawn of modern English itself, born from Old English and Norman French. It's fascinating to think it is.

@mccaine1

23 күн бұрын

Being from Texas, in the USA, I found this fascinating. Spanglish really ISN'T like Llanito, but they emerge from the combination of the same source material. The grammatical shifts seem more consistent in Llanito, as would be expected with Spanglish's tendency to be more of a "code-switching" use of Spanish and English based on situation. Thanks for the video, and Viva Los Gibraltarians (or Gibralteros?)!

I am a Texan who has spoken both English and Spanish all of my life (60 yrs). I am quite used to what we call "Tex-Mex". Spending time in Gibraltar in 1984, blew my mind. I did not identify Llanito as a language but as a European version of the Tex-Mex I knew so well. The accents, though, blew my mind and really through me for a loop. Before the brain tumor, I had a gift for both languages and mimicking accents and the Gibraltarian version just seemed so incongruous. It makes so much more sense now. I have enjoyed most all of the RobWords videos I have seen but this one has been a special pleasure.

@RobespierreThePoof

23 күн бұрын

Hello Tejano! I lived in Dallas for a decade and know what you're referring to. Granted, Dallas is a long way from the Frontera, but you know ... There's still lots of Tejano culture. Rob pretty much spelled it out in the video but there's a pretty big difference. Llanitto is a fully formed dialect which is something that has not quite happened with all the code-switching down by you. BUT, what I really want to know is WHY. Why would one of these two historical situations produce a distinct dialect of Spanish, while the other has not. Or perhaps I've got it wrong. They certainly code-switch in Gibraltar too, but between Llanitto and British English. So maybe the difference is really that Llanitto is just a variant of the Andalusian dialect which had always been quite distinct from Castillian. ??? We need to ask some Spaniards.

@revjohnlee

23 күн бұрын

@@RobespierreThePoof That makes sense. The critical new piece of information for me is the distinction with the code switching terminology. I had not hear it expressed that way before and I suppose I just assumed that was happening in Gibraltar (but the accent was still something like I imagine an acid trip!). Looking back of the RobWords examples, though, and recalling particular conversations from 40 years ago, I recognize that the swapping was not random and followed, for the most part, the conventions he outlined. I could easily accept that the exceptions are just the traditional random swapping. I'd be interested to see if your hypothesis fits with the actual accents presented. As I said, I used to be very good at picking up minute changes in accent but the brain tumor ruined that. Now, all I can say is that what I heard sounded "off" to my ears but I would be unable to reproduce it myself. In my youth, I could fool people over a telephone in dozens of languages though if they say me and I still fooled them, there would need to be psychiatric professionals brought into the conversation.

@danielkwok1837

23 күн бұрын

What do you mean by "incongruous"?

@nicosmind3

23 күн бұрын

​@@revjohnleeAs someone with a Spanish dad (Valencia) and British mum (Belfast) Llanito feels like it's my background without being my background. It's very familiar

@napoleonfeanor

23 күн бұрын

​@@revjohnleesorry to hear you lost that ability through a tumour.

Actually, Americans use both cilantro and coriander. We use cilantro when we are using the leaves. The seeds are called coriander.

@rlmtrelomatt7390

22 күн бұрын

In Spain we call the fresh herb cilantro and the dried seed spice cilantro en polvo ;)

@amva55

20 күн бұрын

I use culantro.

@pelletrouge3032

18 күн бұрын

@@rlmtrelomatt7390chido

@walterpayton2120

17 күн бұрын

@@amva55De centro America, cierto?

@amva55

16 күн бұрын

@@jennaforesti I use culantro

French infiltrating old English after 1066 came to mind when hearing English being used for government/education/technical words in Gibraltar as French was for judicial/culinary/fashion words in England. Rob, you’ve taught us so much!

@frankharr9466

23 күн бұрын

It should. Not forget Latin and Greek borrowings as well and those same borrowings in other languages as well as borrowings from English. Words do travel.

@mandarkastronomonov2962

22 күн бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. 👍

@Ethantreadway8483

20 күн бұрын

1066 is not the "cutoff" year. French did not "infiltrate" anything. It was already present. The battle of Hastings is just a perfect "excuse" for that narrative and no nobody gets to say "it's not a narrative" because it is. That guy was off, technical words are not the only English words used in that language. Have you noticed when you see carvings & pictures of the battle of Hastings that the soldiers who are combating on both either sides look exactly the same? It's NOT like when the Christians were fighting the Ottomans in the crusades. Or the Spanish ✝️ of Castile Christians were fighting the Moors where you could mostly tell them apart. Not the case with the Hastings battle because they were culturally & ethnically the same

I'm so used to hearing people switch between Latin American Spanish and American English that it's a bit of a shock to hear people speak in a language that sounds like someone switching from European Spanish to European English 😆

@mcburnski

23 күн бұрын

European English? Do you mean English? 😉

@ScorpionSuerte

23 күн бұрын

​@@mcburnskiEnglish English and Spanish Spanish

@SpiritmanProductions

23 күн бұрын

@@ScorpionSuerte Do you know there are actually people who don't make the connection that Spanish comes from Spain, and English comes from England? 🇪🇸🏴 😂

@avremke24

23 күн бұрын

It’s English and Spanish. Not European English and European Spanish.

@avremke24

23 күн бұрын

The same with Portuguese. You’ve got Portuguese and then Brazilian Portuguese. Portuguese comes from Portugal!!

As a Puerto Rican, Spanglish as we call it is a particularly popular dialect for us for the obvious reason that we are an American territory. The historic diaspora to the NYC area and more recently the Orlando/central Florida has preserved a lot of Spanglish (with many American colloquialisms). Some of us will either code-switch (e.g. “no tengo el numero de tu cell” / “llámame when you get home y te lo explicaré todo”) or we’ve just straight up incorporated American English into entirely new words: janguear (to hang out), parquear (to park, as in a car), parqueo (parking), or the bit more crass come mierda, which directly translates to “eat poop,” but shares a similar linguistic origin to the American idiom of someone “thinking their s*** don’t stink,” aka extreme arrogance or cockiness.

@name_be_like1005

23 күн бұрын

As a cuban we also have parqueo and come mierda we refer to a shirt as pulóver (coming from the words pull over) and call busses guagua (coming from the word wagon)

@Morpheux1

17 күн бұрын

​@@name_be_like1005 I've heard a different etymology, the first Bus service in Cuba was Washington and Walton, the sign in the side read "Wa & Wa Bus Co", so people took the Wawa, which later became Guagua.

@Morpheux1

17 күн бұрын

We also have Frankfura, Furnitura, Roofo, 😂

@The1ByTheSea

12 күн бұрын

Mexican and Central Americans uses Spanglish : carro for car, parqueo for estacinamiento , apartamento for apartment ( Mexicans say departamento ) , rentar for alquilar or se renta for se alquila ,tiquetes( tickets) for boletos

@The1ByTheSea

12 күн бұрын

brequea for put on the break of the car , likiando : for leaking : la tuberia esta likiando ,some people use mopa for mop .

Our Spanglish isn't just code switching either. We have words like "el parking", "la troca", "confleis", etc and use a lot of English filler words, most prominently "so" instead of "así que" or "entonces", and we also use the phrase "te llamo pa'trá". The only thing distinct about Llanito is its use of British English in place of American as far as I can tell.

@glenmorrison8080

23 күн бұрын

I think these Spanish folks just aren't comfortable admitting they're doing something linguistically similar to what the lowly brown folks over the Atlantic do. Maybe Spanglish is more variable (because of course it would be, being more widespread), but just look at all these Spanglish speakers in the comments saying exactly what you're saying.

@DaisyDeMiami

20 күн бұрын

In Miami, the English has taken on its own dialectic and isn't Spanglish. I moved away to other states and many people didn't understand the phrases I was saying. Then when I moved back to Miami, it was interesting how my Chinese-American partner, who basically grew up in Miami, understood me so well. We're both fascinated with language and see how it affects our lives differently.

@mikicerise6250

17 күн бұрын

Sure. When I went to school with an American here in Spain he would say he has to "repass" his notes.

@The1ByTheSea

12 күн бұрын

te llamo pa'atras is used in Miami Spanglish, specifically in Cuban Miami Spanglish .

Unrelated to Llanito but I saw it in the video... never in a million years the connection between Buckaroo and Vaquero has crossed my mind, as a native spanish speaker, it's hilarious but also mind blowing lol

Dear Rob. I was once in Miami and I heard a woman with strong Colombian accent tell her grandson "Mira mijo sube la window que me esta pegando mucho wind en la face". In Venezuela we use "chatear" (chatting), "brohder" (brother or close friend), "Hon rohn" (home run for baseball), "Macundahles" (Mac and Dales for luggage or stuff) and many other words that have the correct meaning like coffee break and full. There is a children's poem that goes like this "Pollito chicken, gallina hen, lapiz pencil, boligrafo pen".

@andreabarrios5249

23 күн бұрын

In Mexico, we sing this children's song with these lyrics: Pollito-chicken, gallina-hen, lápiz-pencil y pluma-pen. Ventana-window, puerta-door, techo-ceiling y piso-floor. This song is used to teach English to kids, but it is also used to explain when someone is not billingual; the person might say: ¡Sólo sé pollito-chicken! 😉

@wihatmi5510

23 күн бұрын

In Germany we learned chatear in school as part of our Spanish lession were we learn European Spanish. Therefore I thought it was a loanword every Spanish speaking person uses today like also we in Germany say "chatten".

@nicosmind3

23 күн бұрын

Mucho wind en la face 😂

@pabtorre

23 күн бұрын

Miami spanglish ❤

@TheGypsyVanners

22 күн бұрын

And as a 1st generation Cuban American- we say "Pluma = pen". Pluma means Feather and reflects that the first pens, or Quill Pens, as we say in English were made from bird feather plumes.

I would argue that Andalusian Spanish is more predominate in the New World, not Castilian due the large representation of Andalusians who immigrated. It's similar to why Cantonese is more prevalent in the world's "Chinatowns" and not Mandarin. Most of the disapora are from Southern China.

@misseli1

23 күн бұрын

Yeah, it reminds me of how Pa' Tra' is more commonly used in Cuba

@SchoolVideosGoHere

23 күн бұрын

That's been my understanding as well. New World Spanish more closely resembles Andalusian (e.g. the lack of a lisp/ceceo).

@JrMrtr

23 күн бұрын

@@SchoolVideosGoHere It is not a lisp, i don't know why americans can't understand that. Ceceo is from Andalusia. Seseo is also from Andalusia by the way (which is the variety that got ported to America). Everywhere else in Spain they have distinction.

@allendracabal0819

23 күн бұрын

​@@JrMrtrJust because someone describes it as a "lisp" does not imply that they believe the people speaking that way have some kind of speech impediment. There is no other simple English word to describe that language feature. I don't know why you can't understand that.

@SpiritmanProductions

23 күн бұрын

That's really interesting. I didn't know that. Thanks!

This is literally how everyone in Miami speaks. And it’s not code switching because even people who were born and raised in Miami who are not bilingual will still use words from both English and Spanish. It’s like they heard other people code switching and just learned that as the only language they know.

Is this language the correct answer to "English or Spanish?"

@lonestarr1490

23 күн бұрын

Yes. Especially when we're talking about breakfast.

@rickwilliams967

23 күн бұрын

Does anyone ask that question?

@thyst7014

23 күн бұрын

@@rickwilliams967 it's a meme right now.

@matercan5649

23 күн бұрын

spanglish

@ff_crafter

23 күн бұрын

🎶 Baby, you got somethin' in your nose Sniffin' that K, did you feel the hole? Hope you find peace for yourself New boyfriend ain't gon' fill the void 🎶

Having grown up on the US-MX border we also have a lot of calques, anglicisms, and code-switching. Te llamo patras, and fuera de orden are present, as are words like marqueta/mercado coexisting and taking on new meanings--where marketa is a place, wherease mercado is the broader market. Dona (donut), baika (bike), troca (truck), aseguranza (instead of insurance), and verbs like watchar, to give a flavor. Educated speakers can switch to formal Spanish and English. I very much remember, Hey, watcha, a qué bathroom, dijo la teacher, que us, no podiamos go? By the way, Mexico is in North America, and in Latin America, but (perhaps with the exception of Chiapas from a linguistic point of view) not in Central America.

Just a funny example of our Southern California Spanglish. I heard a friend say to another, “Levántame a las siete.” I pictured the first man raising his friend off the ground in his arms-until I did a mental literal translation into the English phrase, “Pick me up at seven.” Oh😊

@cmyk8964

23 күн бұрын

Would it correctly be recógeme a las siete?

@richard550

22 күн бұрын

Actually the meaning is more like "wake me up at seven"

@Benito-lr8mz

22 күн бұрын

No se dice solamente así tambien se puede decir despiértame a las 7 y supongo se acabó la gracia😂

@rlmtrelomatt7390

22 күн бұрын

@@richard550 Yes that is what I understood, we would use the verb Despertar ( wake up) o Llamar ( call me at) In spain.

@carlosrivera3260

21 күн бұрын

En el norte de Argentina, si alguien te dice "levántame a las siete", significa: "Wake me up at 7:00".

Puerto Ricans also say "Te llamo pa' tra'" (without pronouncing the final "s" too). Different linguistic ingredients, same results 😮

@albaaviles7148

23 күн бұрын

It’s probably because the Spanish that extended to what is now Latin America was mainly the one from the southern region of Andalucía and the Canary Islands, where they tend to skip the “s” and shorten the words in general. So to me it does make quite a lot of sense that the Spanish spoken in Puerto Rico will be pretty similar to that of Gibraltar

@alfrredd

23 күн бұрын

Andalusian Spanish is closely related to Caribbean Spanish accents.

@The1ByTheSea

12 күн бұрын

@@albaaviles7148 Davina's English part was British English,but her Spanish speaking part I was wondering why is she speaking Cuban or Miami Cuban Spanglish ?

Manuel Enriles looks like a hybrid of Jack Black and Mandy Patinkin.

@intrograted792

23 күн бұрын

I had to search too long for this comment, lol. Thank you! I know, right?! Uncanny

@Just_Sara

22 күн бұрын

I knew I'd seem him somewhere!! lol

Incidentally, for coriander, Spanish has both cilantro and coriandro. And in English in the US, cilantro only refers to the leaves, while the Spanish cilantro can actually refer to the entire plant.

@greendogg83

23 күн бұрын

thanks

@RJ-hs8ch

23 күн бұрын

Nope.. it’s the same leaves on both names

@chrisk5651

23 күн бұрын

Yes, about the leaves. In the USA, we have a spice called Coriander, which is from the dried seeds of the plant!

@bevinboulder5039

23 күн бұрын

@@chrisk5651 And it all tastes and smells disgusting to me no matter what it's called.

@tomhalla426

23 күн бұрын

@@bevinboulder5039 Some people have a genetic quirk that makes cilantro taste like soap.

6:44 As a native of the Lower Río Grande Valley, Texas, USA, I have to respectfully disagree that the “Spanglish” spoken back home (locally called Tex-Mex) is more than just code switching. There are instances where syntax from one language is used for the other, new words born of both languages are also used (washatería for a laundromat can be found as far north as Houston; I’ve seen a hot dog stand in San Antonio called “El Weinacero”; etc.).

@Neli42

23 күн бұрын

My favorite linguistic crossover that I've encountered since I moved to the RGV is that people here "drink" all medicines, whether liquids, capsules, tablets, or pills. (Translating "tomar.")

@WhateverOwO

2 күн бұрын

He made reference to that, but hey, you not watching the video has consequences

In Northern Ontario, similar to Spanglish, we have Franglais. I wouldn't consider it an actual language though because there aren't any standards in it, people just make it up as they go. My aunt is hilarious to listen to because she flip flops between using the English word and the French for something so frequently that you'll hear both in the same conversation. One of the big ones I've observed is that people who speak the horrible Franglais do away with the -ing at the end of English words they use and put an -é instead. Drivé instead of driving and the like. I hate it, lol, and my whole family speaks like that.

@ryangjewell

23 күн бұрын

On the other hand you have Chiac in New Brunswick.

@eb.3764

23 күн бұрын

​@@ryangjewell Also a misconception people have is that all Acadians speak Chiac. But it's only the Acadians of New Brunswick that speak Chiac. Acadians from Nova Scotia and PEI speak Acadian French.

@fsinjin60

23 күн бұрын

Having a Italanglais office mate (NYC has this dialect) I learned that the French days of the week are Italian (save Dimanche) as he talked with his family about making arrangements for the week

@shinyshinythings

23 күн бұрын

@@fsinjin60The French days of the week are French, not Italian. But both are based on the Latin days of the week.

@fsinjin60

23 күн бұрын

@@shinyshinythings you really think so? Where does the French use ‘di’ to mean day? Toujours. Monday: Lunedì, lundi Tuesday: Martedì, mardi Wednesday: Mercoledì, mercredi Thursday: Giovedì, jeudi Friday: Venerdì, vendredi Saturday: Sabato, samedi Sunday: Domenica, dimanche

Llanito is a language and even as a quirky mish mash of English, Spanish and several others ... it's worth preserving, because it gives a different viewpoint, and because linguistically I want to see where it goes - which is why it should be taught to the young, and not just preserved, but allowed to change

Do you know what the difference is between an alligator and a crocodile? The crocodile is one that you see in a while, but the alligator you don't see until later. 😂

@philroberts7238

22 күн бұрын

Taxonomy courtesy of Bill Haley!

I'm Puerto Rican, born and raised in Massachusetts, and somehow I feel I've spoken Llanito my entire life

@TheAlicea413

23 күн бұрын

Chicano can be seen as a dialect of Spanglish. Idk what we'd call the PR version but Spanglish definitely has dialects

@TheAlicea413

8 күн бұрын

@@vic123 That is misleading because NYC is such a small are. And I definitely don't use Nuyorican Spanglish. There's a more encompassing dialect, where Nuyorican is just a subgroup. Ricans in Cleveland don't speak like NYC and even those in Albany don't speak like those in NYC

This seems very similar to US Spanglish, which linguists insist isnt a separate language because the speaker jumps back and forth between the two.

@danidejaneiro8378

23 күн бұрын

He addresses this in the video, you have to watch until the end before commenting

I lived in the "Tex-Mexi-plex" El Paso/Cd. Juárez area in the '90's, and [E]spanglish was quite common. We would say things like "Tienes zapatos muy nice" & "Estoy diciéndole que he is working hard". It was fun to hear and speak. 😂

Reminds me of a few Indian friends in London, and I absolutely LOVE hearing them speak with their parents - it's a kaleidoscope of Punjabi and English bashed together at breakneck speed. They sound like birds chirping its so vibrant and beautiful sounding.

Spanglish variants usually also do those things you describe as examples of why llanito is not like that. Llanito technically is a kind of spanglish, but just like chiac in Canada it's a native mixture. That is the bigger difference.

What I have seen is cilantro for the leaves and coriander for the seeds. It was on a cooking channel from Canada.

@Paul71H

23 күн бұрын

I have had the same experience of thinking of cilantro as leaves and thinking of coriander as seeds, and evidently they're both names for the same plant, or for parts of the same plant. (I live in the US.)

@pixelpoppyproductions

23 күн бұрын

I had no idea they were the same thing. I’ve seen them called both, now I know how to sneak it into our family cooking “it’s not cilantro, it’s coriander!” 😂

I’m a history ball and I believe language is an integral part of history. Keep up the good work as I love watching all your videos.

@EmMiller-wu3dy

23 күн бұрын

I agree!

@TinLeadHammer

23 күн бұрын

Ball? You mean, buff?

@fatfurie

22 күн бұрын

I agree ..but this isnt history..this is people trying to write their own while neglecting the truth lol

I think the main difference is Spanglish is mainly from a variety of Latin-American spanish and American english, while Llanito is Andalusian Spanish and British English. Latinamerican and Iberian spanish have loads of differences including grammar likewise their english counterparts but in principle spanglish and llanito looks quite very similar to me. Some on the examples presented in this video actually exist also in Spanglish like "te llamo para atras' although in llanito version utilizes Andalusian accent 'pa' tra'. BTW I hope the map showing Mexico as the door from central America refers to that is indeed the bridge for Central America and South America, acknowledging that Mexico is North America.

@AndreaAvila78

23 күн бұрын

😢Ay por Dios! Viví un tiempo en EEUU donde la comunidad hispana habla así. Para mí era muy complicado entender. Perdón pero no me gusta. No tiene sentido. Si algo es complicado no tiene sentido práctico 😢 por lo menos para mí.

@Paul71H

23 күн бұрын

I caught that too. Mexico is part of North America, while Central America consists of countries like Costa Rica, Panama, Belize, Honduras, etc. But Mexico and Central America are all part of Latin America, so it probably would have made more sense for him to say that the US is on Latin America's doorstep.

@Xiroi87

23 күн бұрын

Tell me you know nothing about languages without telling me you know nothing about languages. If you think there's a big difference in grammar between Spanish in Spain and Spanish speaking countries in America, you need to go back to school. And there's no such thing as Andalusian Spanish, but Andalusian accent. Smh

@AndreaAvila78

23 күн бұрын

@@Xiroi87 En España hay muchos dialectos así que es muy probable que exista un español de Andalucía.

@alfrredd

23 күн бұрын

@@AndreaAvila78 Claro que existe, y no solo uno, cada provincia de Andalucía tiene un acento distinto, con su tonalidad, vocabulario y estructuras diferentes, ojo, no digo que la diferencia sea muy grande ni que sean imposibles de entender entre ellos, pero cada uno tiene su 'toque' diferenciador y puede que alguien que no sea de España no lo note, pero los que somos de aquí sí. Igual que los de EEUU distinguen entre los acentos de Boston, Nueva York y Chicago, pero pocos extranjeros pueden.

I grew up in southern Arizona. We had something similar called Spanglish. “No problemo, yo tengo four wheel drive, bro”

Miami speakers will say they “turn off” a candle and, less tolerable for me, they will refer to the ground outside as the “floor”.

There is another hybrid language here in the Philippines, specifically in the Zamboanga peninsula (southwest region of Mindanao, the largest island). It is a quirky combination of Spanish and Visayan. This is because the country was under Spanish rule for over 300 years, and Visayan is one of the more widely spoken dialects out of the 170 we have in this archipelago.

In Texas we are familiar with "spanglish". Typically, it's a mix of spanish and english phrases. You often here it when spanish youth are speaking to their grandparents. :) But I realized there's something else I would call "spanglish". It's when a native spanish speaker understands conversational english but doesn't have the spelling/grammar. My first experience with this was The Tamale Lady that visited my company. She had business cards that had the phrase "All Cains". I realized, phonetically, that would be pronounced, in spanish, as "kines" which is exactly how most Texans pronounce "kinds". Later, a second grade teacher friend showed me a paper written by her "prized" student. At first glance, it was mostly gibberish but, if you sounded out the words using spanish phonemes, that kid was very bright. It seems like Llanito is a nice mixture of both of these language melding phenomena.

I hate to disagree with you Rob but Spanglish does include English words that have taken over the Spanish words. Now I understand that Llanito speakers might have some sensitivity because they want to believe that they have a very unique thing when it's just another example of something that has taken place in every shared space.

@glenmorrison8080

23 күн бұрын

I think following be many many many comments pointing this out, Rob will realize he was a little misinformed by the Llanito speakers. I entirely agree that a need to feel unique is driving their resistance to be compared to Spanglishes. That and probably some European sense of superiority relative to new world folks.

@LingHwoarang28

23 күн бұрын

I think it can be both things. It isn't that special because the mix between English and Spanish has happened in many places, but it is unique in the same way English or Spanish has diverged in different regions. Let me put it this way, if you mix blue and yellow you're bound to make green, but the shades of blue and yellow that you use will impact the kind of green you get in the end.

@Vinemaple

23 күн бұрын

There might also be some transferrence of the North American caste system

@ErnestoMartinez15935

22 күн бұрын

I will give Llanito this: it's quite unique to hear what basically is American Spanglish using the European English and Spanish. Like when she was reading the book and said patatas/crisps when on this side of the pond it would be papa(its)s/chips

@MrApplesaucestuff

22 күн бұрын

Everyone is special these days

Rob is like: “It’s like Spanglish in Puerto Rico but is not the same because I asked the Llanitos and they said so” Hey Rob did you happen to ask anyone from Puerto Rico? Because every Llanito sentence that you used as an example I’ve used with my friends and family in Puerto Rico.

@Michelle-oh5ws

21 күн бұрын

For real, though. There are so many anglicisms we use in PR, and so many barbarisms, besides. The issue is whether Llanito actually has a set vocabulary that is ALWAYS used the same way. If they can switch back and forth and it makes no difference what bits of which language they’re using, it seems like any normal multi-language mish-mash to me🤷🏻‍♀️Igual que cualquier Spanglish.

@GnomaPhobic

20 күн бұрын

"When Europeans speak it, it's a LANGUAGE! When colonials speak it, it's just a mish-mash." -Europeans.

@heironic8547

2 күн бұрын

exactly what I was thinking. It's just so weird that they're trying so hard to call this it's own language. Nothing in this video as far as I can tell distinguishes Llanito from Spanglish. The concept isn't even new, Taglish, Singaporean English, Chavacano creole are all considered "creoles" "code mixing" but when it happens in Europe it's suddenly classified as its own language?

Virtually every example you give of ‘llanito’ happens in ‘Spanglish’ too. (‘te llamo pa’ tras’ for example.)

@The1ByTheSea

12 күн бұрын

Llanito sounded to me like a Spanglish,with the English haveing a British enonation .They say it is not Spanglish,but it is it is a merge created by two cultures coming together .

This sounds a lot like the way a lot of bilingual English and Spanish speakers speak in Southern California. You hear switching back and forth from sentence to sentence, or one word from one in a sentence mostly made of the other.

@Xiroi87

23 күн бұрын

My English teacher used to say, those who speak Spanglish typically don't speak any of the languages well. Not to mention writing them.

@glenmorrison8080

23 күн бұрын

I agree that tends to be the case. As a teacher I've had students who spoke English and Spanish their whole life and struggled to write in English because they would need certain Spanish words for some ideas, and were not very literate in Spanish either, finding that their understanding of full Spanish vocabulary and grammar was very lacking. I think that pattern really resembles what is being described here with Llanito. Not sure why the Llanito speakers would resent the comparison with "Spanglishes".

@impendio

22 күн бұрын

Even outside of the usa, here in panama people speak spanglish as a normal thing, especially amongst the higher class that either went to english speaking high school, or that studied in the us for college. Me and my friends did neither, and still we chat 70% in english and talk 30-40% in english in normal conversations. Every hobby-specific thing is talked about in spanglish, either by using english words in spanish constructions or by code switching for set phrases, etc

@diegoterneus2250

22 күн бұрын

Not limited to Southern California. I live in San José and hear it on a daily basis.

@ramonramos9135

16 күн бұрын

@@Xiroi87well, your teacher is wrong. 😑

Not only in Gibraltar, also Cal-Mex border and at least mid-southern California too. My students would ask, “When is lonche?” for lunch/almuerzo.

6:59 I don't think I agree that this is different from what many "Spanglish" speakers do. Many people I know who here in California lack vocabulary for many words in Spanish, so they always have to reach for an English word for many ideas. That sounds a lot like what you're describing. I do think people from fancy Spain may not want to accept that they're doing the same thing that many many new world Spanish speakers do in English speaking locales.

@sgriggl

23 күн бұрын

Right? It was a weird little aside in a video that was otherwise very positive of talking about contact languages as real languages. Like... THIS contact language is a "real" language, but THAT one over there is "just code-switching"?

@555pghbob

22 күн бұрын

@@sgriggl EXACTLY! Thank you (both glen and sgriggl) for bringing this up, because it has been bothering me the whole video. I am not a linguist, so I can't speak to the fact that this form of Andalucian Spanish is a separate language that follows regular explainable grammar that makes it different. We can look to Black American English as a "true" variety of English because it has identifiable verb forms that differ from Standard American English. More work needs to be done to show that it is truly a separate language.

@juanjacobomoracerecero6604

22 күн бұрын

Another American hating on Spaniards as usual. First of all People from Gibraltar are British. They are originally British English speakers adopting words from Spanish in an English grammar fashion. That's diferent from Spanglish. 1) Because Spanglish is spoken by Latín American descendants (the hispanic ones) borrowing words from English. The direction of the borrowing is the opposite as you couldn't see. 2) They are just borrowing words they are not applying Spanish grammatical rules over the English words they borrow. So no, it's not the same. Stop hating.

@glenmorrison8080

3 күн бұрын

@@juanjacobomoracerecero6604 I didn't mean to hate on Spain. If anything I meant to hate on a European attitude of superiority over the rest of the world. Looking into it, it seems like around a quarter of surnames in Gibraltar are British, and the rest is a broad mix of Mediterranean origins. So I think it could be more complicated than a single direction of borrowing Spanish into English. Although I could definitely see a primarily English language origin for Llanito. But I'm not sure that makes it so different from Spanglish really. That wild just be like two sides of the same coin, but it's evident that there is a lot in common here with Spanglish (just see all the comments from Spanglish speakers here). Also for point 1, that's not necessarily true. There are English first speakers who also speak Spanglish.

Another time one of my kids was saying .. papá My toy is all "brokado" 😂 (broken+quebrado)

Dale has the same surname as the USA"s Secretary of Transportation, who's father's family is Maltese. It's neat to see that connection.

"I got down from the car." Makes sense considering the dimensions of the average American SUV monstrosity people tend to drive through inner cities these days.

@StamfordBridge

23 күн бұрын

“Inner cities”? The more exurban and rural the communities in the US, the more consistently gigantic the vehicles are.

@neck_acrobatics

23 күн бұрын

CAFE loopholes have been a disaster.

@MrSimeonk

23 күн бұрын

It is linked to the idea of descending from a cart or wagon, although one could get out of a carriage...

@metalswifty23

23 күн бұрын

​@@StamfordBridge I don't think that was the point they were making. They weren't saying that the vehicles in cities now are bigger than in rural areas, but that the vehicles in inner cities are much too large for the setting that they're in, which would then allow it to go in line with what you said about the vehicles getting much larger the more rural it gets.

@StamfordBridge

23 күн бұрын

@@metalswifty23 Fair enough, but that presupposes that all those massive pickups in rural and exurban areas are being used for hauling, and I think data have shown that’s largely untrue. It seems to be more the idea that gullible men have been trained to associate car size with their masculinity.

As someone with a Spanish dad, a British mother, who lives in Alicante, but has a flat in Belfast. Well Llanito is something that's interested me as it's like my background without being my background. And I couldn't find much on the internet so thanks for this 😊

@TinLeadHammer

23 күн бұрын

As someone... what? You haven't finished the sentence.

Ha! I've visited Gibraltar a few times as a Royal Marine and always loved the uniqueness of Gib. I loved how people people had names like Dave Gonzalez or Juan Smith! I remember being at Devils Tower camp and walked past a couple of the Gib Reg guys on the front desk, I walked past them once and they were speaking to each other in English, then the second time they seemed to be speaking to each other in Spanish, then the third which seemed a mix of Spanish and English.

Was so delighted to see this video! My sister was born in Gib in 1968 and I spent months there. My mother and sister, who live in southern Spain, go there often. Since I speak both English and Spanish either alternating or simultaneously, it never seemed odd to me. The first thing we ever heard this in Gib was a woman in a pharmacy telling us how to make some herbal tea, speaking in English, instructing us to boil some water in a "saucepancito" For a moment we stared in astonishment, surprised to hear her say this, a way we've spoken since the early sixties! As for it's difference from "Spanglish", I think there is room for both and what it's called in any given location is not important. In Gib, they call it Llanito. Elsewhere, something else or nothing at all. It is a natural thing when you grow up speaking two or more languages as my sister and I did. Her first sentence was "dame (DAH-may) light" - literally "give me light" because she couldn't reach the light switch. Thanks for this fascinating glimpse into life in Gibraltar.

Very interesting. Rob, you would probably be interested in taking a look at Taglish (Tagalog + English). It isn’t code switching at all either - we mix these two languages into a seemingly seamless dialect.

@greendogg83

23 күн бұрын

tagalog is from where? if you will forgive my ignorance

@MarcusH...

23 күн бұрын

​@@greendogg83Filipino

@greendogg83

23 күн бұрын

@@MarcusH... thanks

@Blogie

22 күн бұрын

@@greendogg83 It’s from the Philippines. 🇵🇭

"Hey, Mexico! You hear about that British guy in Gibraltar? He's saying you aren't North America anymore!

@N192K001

23 күн бұрын

Here's the thing: Different departments/ministries of education across the globe teach different continents. There's a hilarious 8min:39sec MapMan-video (watch?v=hrsxRJdwfM0 "How many continents are there?" by @JayForman) filled with U.K. humor (or should I say "humour"?) & facts on the matter.

@andreabarrios5249

23 күн бұрын

😢 Big geographical mistake @Rob… North America has many definitions, geographically speaking, and when to comes to treaties, Mexico is in North America. When it comes to cultural differences, many people only consider Canada and the continental USA as North America, because Mexico is part of Latin America. However, in either case, Mexico should NEVER be considered part of Central America! 🤨

@maximipe

23 күн бұрын

Technically there is no North America in the 6 continents model with a single american continent

@loafoffloof3420

23 күн бұрын

Yeah, Mexico is in North America and Latin America. Brazil is in South America and Latin America. The Falklands is in South America, not Latin America. Puerto Rico is in the Caribbeans, North America, and Latin America, between the North Atlantic Sea and the Caribbean Sea. Greenland is a part of the North American continent, but due to geopolitical reasons it is closer to Europe because it is still a part of the Kingdom of Denmark.

@ClementinesmWTF

23 күн бұрын

@@maximipeonly in the western 6-continent model. The other 6-continent model taught in the east combines Asia and Europe into Eurasia (with Europe as a subcontinent much like the Arabian peninsula or India), but leaves North and South America separate. This is objectively the best model of continents to use.

As a Californian, it’s so cool to hear the similarities between Llanito and what my local “Spanglish” speakers say

This is similar to what happened in New Zealand.The discouraging of speaking Maori in schools meant that the language nearly died but is now making a strong comeback.

The linguistic phenomena Rob uses to justify Llanito as a language are exactly the same that occur in any variety of Spanglish. The example of "llamar pa'trá'"(with or without /s/) is what speakers of Spanglish say in the US, or even in border Mexico. Even Spanish-speaking newcomer immigrants who don't know English use it because that's the norm. The difference here is that Llanito speakers have given it a different name. That Llanito speakers don't see it as Spanglish is garden variety British exceptionalism. As someone pointed out, it is a patois, on its way to a creole (I would add), if it survives and continues to diverge. Oh, and just to reinforce, Mexico is North America.

@glenmorrison8080

23 күн бұрын

I entirely agree. All of the features he is describing that Llanito not just Spanglish are things that exist in Spanglish, as well. People even grow up speaking Spanglish as a first language. As you said either English exceptionalism, or Spanish sense of superiority over the new world speakers of Spanish who surely must be speaking some illegitimate bastard hybrid dialect so very different from their proper unique "language".

@philroberts7238

22 күн бұрын

@@glenmorrison8080 The phenomena are the same but the specifics vary. People on both sides of the Atlantic seem to be getting rather worked up over whether it is or is not to be called "Spanglish". That rather depends on whether "Spanglish" is merely a generic word for any kind of English/Spanish mash-up or if it refers instead to a specifically North American blend. My feeling is that if Llanito speakers wish to call their particular variant Llanito, then we should allow them to do so and have done with it. Equally, let those speakers of the myriad other hybrid variations call their own versions whatever they name they choose to call it.

@neurocheministry

22 күн бұрын

​@@philroberts7238The problem isn't what they say Llanito is or isn't, it's what they say Spanglish is and isn't. Saying Spanglish is "code-switching" is absurd.

@WhateverOwO

2 күн бұрын

​​@@neurocheministry, that's the same problem from two different perspectives. Assuming llanito is a subset of spanglish because it has some common structures is ridiculous and incredibly egotistical, it's like if I said that catalan is not a language or Galician is not a language because it shares so many structures with Spanish it's just a subset of it; completely and uterly ridiculous.

Arizonan here. We totally mix up Spanish and English all the time! Sometimes I actually can't remember what language I'm in...

There's also Germlish: "Die Kuh ist über den Fence gejumpt." - heard from German immigrants who'd been living in south Alabama for some years. 😊

The Australian term Jackeroo (a cowboy) comes from Vaquero/buckeroo, although a cowgirl is Jilleroo instead. I had no idea till recently that the term had come from vaquero at all.

@RobespierreThePoof

23 күн бұрын

jillaroo sounds hilarious to my ears.

14:10For Yanito to assert itself as a language independent of English and Spanish, which is the right path, Yanito must seek unity with the TexMex dialect, with Statenitan Spanglish, with Papiamento,Mahonese,limonese creole,Talian, Sabir, Cape Verdean and in fact leave the nickname zone of English and Spanish mixed, behave as a truly autonomous language. It was a great video Rob 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤

The OG Spanglish. A different form is used in America. “Hey, dude, hand me those chingaderos over there, let’s get a boorrito after this ‘yob “

As a spanish, I really respect and appreciate your video. I must say Gibraltar is part of my family history, UK embassy protected my great-grandfather home in Madrid during the spanish civil war. He was governor of the Campo de Gibraltar area, and KCMG distinguised.

Something interesting I found is that the pronunciation of the Spanish part of Llanito sounds more like Spanish from South America. This makes sense because Gibraltar is located in southern Spain (Andalusia), near Seville, where the first ships set sail during colonization. This could explain why their pronunciation doesn't use "ceceo", which is common in central and northern Spain and is one of the reasons people consider Spanish from Spain different from Latin American Spanish. But I don't know, don't quote me on this 😅

In Miami they are no😮t Code switching. CHECK THIS OUT ROB - Miami has officially been declared as having its own dialect - a mixture of Spanish grammer or as you mentioning saying common Spanish phrasing in English. You dont stop by someone's house for a visit. People say in Miami instead, "I'll pass by your house tomorrow " They aren't just doing a Jersy driveby. They mean to stop to come in for a visit. So I would have heard them in a shop in London and thought they were from Miami 90% of people today in Miami speak like this. By the way my Cuban Grandmother moved to Miami pre-Castro. She loved the US even before the revolution. She taught herself to speak English, had a huge vocabulary, though heavily accented. Cake was Caki (as you would pronounce the Spanish "i" vowel - but it was because she instinctlualy want to pronounce every letter in Cake, Make, Take, Bake... I guess she wasnt alone And ALSO in Miami people walk up to you and assume you speak Spanish and start speaking to you in Spanish. Im first generation on my dads side but my mom was from NYC - we all - including Papi, spoke English at home. In fact my family like was basically the old I Love Lucy show. Mom was a funny Lucy, Dad a suit clad Ricky Ricardo. So I lean into English outside of Miami. But here, where I know I will be understood I slip into the common spanish words abd phrases used as the best way to see say it, I do pass by my friends houses in English. Or say "¡Coño Hijo!" when the other driver cuts me off but no one can hear me but me. ALSO BTW at my doctors office No One Speaks any English BUT the bilingual doctor. No one. Theyre answering machine and texts messages are in Spanish. One day I asked Walgreens to speak to an English speaking pharmasist - they told me to come back tomorrow as No One in any department at any level - management included spoke ANY ENGLISH other than "Tomorrow come again."

What a delightful addition, Rob! Thanks.

Hope you enjoyed your break Rob. It’s always a delight to see your videos pop up when I’m looking for something to watch while I eat dinner. Keen for the next Words Unraveled with Jess

Spanglish is not all about code switching. To say Llanito is different reeks of European exceptionalism. As a Spanish person living in America, born in PR, I can confidently say in Spanglish there are many English words that are essential and have replaced Spanish words. For example, mapo in PR means mop, unlike in Spain where it’s called a fregona. There are many, many examples of this. Spanglish may also use the English construction of a sentence. Saying “te llamo pa tra” is a good example of something you’d say in Spanglish, so it’s not a great example of what makes Llanito unique. I say this because I don’t deny Llanito’s history and classification of a language. I just think Spanglish is also just as interesting, particularly varied depending on the country of origin you’re from, and is essentially equivalent to Llanito. No need to lower its value so that Llanito speakers can feel special. They’re both cool languages.

@cuajil

23 күн бұрын

This!

@funkyjava

23 күн бұрын

I think Spanglish (in PR, at least) is more flexible than Llanito, but I could be wrong, esp since I only just heard about Llanito from this video. Correct me if I am wrong, but in Spanglish, different words and phrases are used depending on the mood or which words "feel" better at that moment. With my mother in law, it would often be whichever English or Spanish words popped into her head first. She might say "Get me la bolsa" or "Dame the bag" depending on her mood that day. So the same sentence might be a different mixture of the languages from one conversation to the next. Is that generally how Spanglish works? or is it just my experience since I mostly spent time with Puerto Ricans who were pretty much fully bilingual and also pretty ADHD, lol. While there are definitely English words, like the examples you gave, that have been absorbed into PR Spanish and are used consistently, I get the feeling from that overall Llanito is more consistent as to which words from which language you use and the sentences would stay pretty much the same regardless of who is talking. I see Spanglish as more of a freeform dance with the two languages but, again, I could be wrong since my experience is limited. When I spend time in PR, it's pretty obvious that Spanish is a second language for me and when I speak Spanish I think people stick to more traditional Spanish when talking with me, unless I am talking with the family. Spanglish works well in my brain because I was fluent at ten years old but lost a lot over the years so some Spanish words and phrases come very naturally to me but English fills in the gaps, if that makes any sense.

@Vinemaple

23 күн бұрын

The dismissal of Spanglish as "code switching" definitely smells like some American academic's biased and subjective declaration

@jenajera

22 күн бұрын

Yes, exactly! Characterizing Spanglish as mere "code-switching" while Llanito is some super unique language is just ignorant. Spanglish has the EXACT same features as Llanito, and even some of the same English-influenced idioms ("te llamo p'atras"). I'm sure those of us who speak Spanish and English (in my case Mexican Spanish and American English) understood this entire video. If Llanito were so unique, I shouldn't have been able to understand it.

@franimal86

22 күн бұрын

@funkyjava I don’t disagree with you. there isn’t exactly rules that say “use Spanish” or “use English” or “use a mix of the two” for specific cases that everyone would use, as whole. But the idea is that this little island off the coast of Spain has its own language, and so do places like Puerto Rico. Even something like saying “parking” or “parkeo” is common and has replaced “aparcar” which you’d say in Spain. What is interesting is that each Caribbean island could have its own version of “Llanito” based on their examples of what makes it unique as a language. There is certainly no need to generalize - if anything we can use Spanglish as an umbrella term that includes Llanito. Then we could be more specific and call PR Spanglish its own language.

"English or Spanish?" *Yes*

@RobWords

23 күн бұрын

Thank you very much!

@asfdirt

23 күн бұрын

@@mauriciokaplan2494 Ses

Has a Chicano I am accustomed to listening and occasionally speaking Spanglish myself. Ultimately we will all be speaking something similar to what's predicted in Blade Runner

"Te llamo pa tras" and other uses of "pa tras" as the English "back" are quite common in "pocho Spanish" (Spanish from the US)

You should check the english influence in Menorca too. They were english just few decades, but english lexic penetrated the Menorcan day to day life. (Mostly in sayings and alocutions): For example: BORD is a tray (From BOARD) A farmer will say: "OCS OCS" to induce the "OX" to plow. But the ox itself will still be called "Bou" (Like most catalan dialects) On a fight, someone turned an eye BLACK to someone else. In Menorcan, he turn the eye "BLEC" to the other guy.(But the color is still "negre" in any other situation). things like that...

I know a fair bit of english and un poquito de español, but jumping from one to another in a split second makes my brain stall.

@Benito-lr8mz

22 күн бұрын

Yo no sé un poquito de Ingles😂

I saw you filming in Gibraltar a few weeks ago. Great to see you covering llanito.

Was cool to see you around Gib, good promotion of the unique of the place this 😁👍

This was a particularly exceptional ad transition Derecho is another wonderfully descriptive spanish word for a meterological event!

@rosiefay7283

23 күн бұрын

Except that it isn't really a Spanish word for that.

@sagetmaster4

23 күн бұрын

@@rosiefay7283 it's closer than buckaroo

Point of information: In the USA, Latin American Spanish is taught in high schools. It is also the variety spoken by most university professors. Some professors speak Castillian, to be sure, but I would guess that almost no high school teachers do. We border on Mexico and have Puerto Rico as a territory, so there is little motivation for most Americans to learn a minority dialect from across the ocean.

@danidejaneiro8378

23 күн бұрын

What you call Spanish IS Castillian.

@nataliajimenez1870

23 күн бұрын

​@@danidejaneiro8378The vast majority of Spanish from the Americas has much simpler verb conjugation than Castilian and that is the Spanish that is taught in the US

@danidejaneiro8378

23 күн бұрын

@@nataliajimenez1870 - it is still Castillian in the same way that Australian, American and South African is still English despite their differences.

@davidfriedland8255

23 күн бұрын

@@nataliajimenez1870"much simpler verb conjugations"? Can you give some examples?

@jenajera

22 күн бұрын

@@nataliajimenez1870 to my knowledge the only difference between Latin American and European Spanish verb conjugation is the use of vosotros. Are there other differences that you know of? I wouldn't call that much simpler - we just use "ustedes" for formal and informal plural "you" and in Spain they would use vosotros for informal.

In New Mexico, we also have "te llamo para atras" and also "do you want to get down from the car?" Plus ca change plus c'est la meme cosa.

I've heard many people from New York whose parents are Puerto Rican say "Te llamo pa'tra". In fact, nothing from what they've said in Llanito was anything from what I've heard in Spanish. I understand this is part of their identity, but it is not that different from what is happening on the other side of the Atlantic. However, I found it really interesting to know about this!

Llanito seems rather similar to le Joual in Canada :3 it's considered "improper french" but has remained a widely spoken language across Canada

Being a native English speaker who learned Castillan Spanish in school, I find this fascinating. I'd love to learn this language, too!

@napoleonfeanor

23 күн бұрын

Only possible in Gibraltar! Make a vacation and maybe some people like the ones from the mentioned organisation can give advice how to learn some! I'm currently learning Spanish based on Insituto Cervantes based language classes at university. I however hate that they give no proper vocabulary lists. My teacher is from Venezuela but has been in Germany for a long time (and doesn't speak English)

One of the most fascinating of all the fascinating videos from RobWords!

I love it if you would speak about the recent change from " by accident" to " on accident."

In American English, cilantro and coriander are two different parts of the same plant, and they have distinctly different flavors in seasoning. Cilantro is ideally used fresh while coriander is dried.

@MeritRaXIX

22 күн бұрын

In Spanish cilantro is the fresh plant, coriandro (coriander) is the seeds or the powdered seeds.

In Nuevo Mexico, we call it _spanglish_

Very interesting, thanks! 30 years ago when we were in Gibraltar with our boat, I probably just thought I was hearing Spanish.

This is so interesting! Thank you for sharing. I never thought of what language Gibraltar spoke! And once again, I blame the bad edge of social media for the loss of many languages. I'm trying to revive my native language

Castillian Spanish isn't what's taught here in the USA. Grammar, perhaps, but not the pronounciation. For instance, we don't say "therVAYtha", we say "serVAYsuh" (cervesa-beer)

@danidejaneiro8378

23 күн бұрын

Pronunciation is just the decoration, grammar and vocabulary is the actual cake.

@nataliajimenez1870

23 күн бұрын

The verb conjugation in Castilian is more complicated than in American Spanish. So grammar is also different and not only pronunciation

@joshadams8761

22 күн бұрын

@@nataliajimenez1870True, Latin American Spanish doesn’t use the vosotros conjugations, but some New World Spanish variants have vos conjugations not present in Spain. Also, the pretérito tense is much more widely used in the New World. A Mexican would say “comí”, a Spaniard “he comido”.

@sergiasilvalerin7206

19 күн бұрын

​@@joshadams8761true...🇪🇦 (Yo)Comí"(yesterday, last week): I ate... / "He comido":I have eaten (today... breakfast, lunch...or in the past, but I'm not sure, example:" I don't know if I have ever eaten at that Restaurant in Barcelona)"

0:38 - My sense of Gibraltar is that as Kaliningrad Oblast strives to be more Russian than Russia is, and Calais under Henry VIII strove to be more English than England was, Gibraltar strives to be more British than Britain is. It's a kind of defiance when one is a tiny exclave surrounded by a huge territory of another country (or, for Kaliningrad, two other countries). So, expect to see a LOT of British nationalism such as on the mailboxes, phone-booths, and flags.

@Benito-lr8mz

22 күн бұрын

Has dicho una enorme tontería si Gibraltar estuviera como esos enclaves las cosas estarían mucho peor España es un país igual o más democrático que R.Unido y no quiere empeorar la situación de la colonia y paraíso fiscal Británica no lo digo yo lo dice la ONU y nada de Ceuta o Melilla por si acaso 😂

@topherthe11th23

22 күн бұрын

@@Benito-lr8mz Gibraltar IS like those other exclaves. The residents are hyper-British (i.e. taking great pains to be more British than anyone living in Great Britain bothers to do), just as the residents of Kaliningrad are hyper-Russian. The residents of these enclaves have an exaggerated insecurity because of their isolation from the main body of the country (Russia proper (moreso now that the adjacent Lithuania isn't part of a Soviet Union that back in the day included Kaliningrad, Lithuania, and Russia, with Poland not in NATO but part of the Warsaw Pact a.k.a. "Iron Curtain") and Great Britain). The residents worry about the main body of the country forgetting about the exclave's existence and underserving its residents. They are afraid of becoming part of, respectively, Poland or Spain and having to change their language. What does democracy have to do with this? I never said anything about Poland or Spain being undemocratic. When Calais was hyper-English, both countries (England and France) were ruled by monarchies that, despite the existence of assemblies such as Parliament, would be considered undemocratic by today's standards. What I'm writing about is the clinging to a nationalistic identity, NOT any yearnings for more or less democracy. And thank you for reminding me that I left Spain's exclaves in North Africa off the list. I'm sure that the people who live in those exclaves are hyper-Spanish (i.e. they take pains to be more Spanish than Spaniards who live in Spain proper (the part of Spain on the Iberian Peninsula) because of all of these same reasons. Exclaves feel alienated from the countries they touch, and feel isolated from the mainland of their own country.

This resembles how many Caribbean Hispanics in NYC and other major U.S. cities talk, but with a British accent lmao. I’m Dominican and I’ve had conversations just like this with my NYC born sisters.

This is really simillar to how the Irish language is spoken in the Gaelteacht, especially amongst the younger generations. Really interesting

Is this a living example of how Norman French and Old English merged to create Middle English? It's fascinating and made me realise I do similar with my family - my mum is Ukrainian and we use certain Ukrainian words when speaking with my family. I don't even think about them and find that I'm able to express myself better.

@BlazeTheFierce

23 күн бұрын

That’s exactly what came to mind for me! So similar to how Middle English developed in my mind

@riggerthegeek

22 күн бұрын

@@meadow-maker lovely. For me, the word I always use is "schlompa" - it's a single word that means the same as "you look like you've been dragged through a hedge backwards". The best one was when I heard one of my Welsh friends say to her daughter "honestly, you look like a right bloody schlompa"

You forgot to mention all the hand gestures that Llanito also apparently requires 😂

Davina has a FANTASTIC accent. Perfect mix of Spanish and English. Amazing. Like tea and crumpets with a side of fajitas.

I've heard "llamar pa'trás" being used by latinos from Florida.

@pierreabbat6157

23 күн бұрын

I've heard this too; it sounds to me like it means "to call from behind".

@Tony32

22 күн бұрын

I heard that in Texas as well, along with "dame quebrada" from "Give me a break" "No estoy supuesto a trabajar hoy" I'm not supposed to work today. "No lo podemos afordar" We can't afford it. And many more 😂

8:00 How could you miss Nueva York? =D

In Mexico we have added many English words and expressions to our vocabulary, It used to be that we recognized Mexican-Americans, or Mexicans who lived near the US border by the English words they inserted in regular Spanish sentences, or the new words they invented to follow Spanish grammar, like saying”parquear la troca” (park the truck) instead of “estacionar la camioneta.” We used to call this being “pocho.” However nowadays there is so much more code-switching everywhere in Mexico, and at all socio-economic levels, due to television, globalization and the internet. We can hear sentences like « qué cool » instead of « qué bien/qué padre/qué chido » or “relax” instead of “relajarse” etc. This has also become a sign of status, because people who go to private schools or have more money, tend to have better English classes or travel abroad, so code-switching becomes a way to be understood by their own circle and not by others. It's so interesting how this used to happen when the English elites used French to not be understood by the “domestiques” and now this is done by the elites in Mexico, but with English. 😮 I actually live in Quebec, Canada, and this phenomenon of code-switching and creating new “anglicisms” has existed for generations, but is still being fought against by linguists. In order to preserve French vocabulary, new words that come from English and are even used in France, have been invented in Qc to make them sound less English, like “magasiner” instead of “shopping” or “clavardage” instead of “chatting” Languages keep evolving and we are more and more aware of it nowadays 😊

Loved the different content, delivered in your usual great style!

We did the Mexican hat dance for my kindergarten graduation. In Bradley, California, us. The community spoke Spanish but society was English.

I am Mexican-American and grew up in California. Most of us speak "Spanglish", I don't see any difference from how Llanito is used. It isn't always code switching. Works like "parking", "truck", "printing" are used as in English or Spanishized as in "el parking", "la troca", etc. We also say "te llamo pa' tra'", "te llamo", or "get down from the car". Their examples are not unique to Llanito as it is also a part of Spanglish. None of the constructs, grammar, and usage presented as Llanito are any different than Spanglish. Spanglish is an identity marker for many Mexican-Americans and Chicanos just as Llanito is for Gibraltans, it would be hard to understand the Mexican-American community and history without Spanglish as Spanglish is the story of two cultures and languages merging together into one. Spanglish has a long history of over 100 years and has been used in poetry, song, and used in Spanish TV commercials. It is an integral part of Mexican-American and Chicano culture. It is also a "class thing" because of its association with immigrants. Perhaps a visit to Los Angeles could help you understand Spanglish better because it is not solely about code-switching. Luckily for us, Spanglish isn't dying. Btw, Mexico is not Central America. It is North America. Central America begins in Guatemala and Belize.

@Xiroi87

23 күн бұрын

The difference is that you speak Spanish mixed up with English, but basically following the Spanish grammar, and they speak English with tons of Spanish words.

@glenmorrison8080

23 күн бұрын

I agree. I suspect these Llanito speakers are probably both unfamiliar with how Spanglish actually works (ie very similarly to Llanito), and they are being a bit superior in their judgements. Surely they, coming from the motherland of Spanish, aren't speaking something comparable to what those heathens across the Atlantic are speaking with such a silly name as "Spanglish"... Seems like bullshit to me.

@bryanCJC2105

23 күн бұрын

@@Xiroi87 Spanish w English, English w Spanish, what exactly is the difference that qualifies Llanito as a language and qualifies Spanglish as one?

@jdaviddejesusadon3629

22 күн бұрын

Technically Central America starts in the Yucatán peninsula, and Spanglish is not unique to Chicanos or Mexico-US border.

@bryanCJC2105

22 күн бұрын

​@@jdaviddejesusadon3629 I understand the Mesoamerican cultures and the ecology of the Yucatan extend far into Central America. Geographically, the Yucatan is the southern most part of the North American tectonic plate while Central America is not. You can introduce any kind of "technicality" but that has nothing to do with what this conversation is about anyways and just becomes a pedantic argument. Historically, politically, and for all practical purposes, Mexico has always been an integral part of North America. The Yucatan is part of Mexico, and is therefore in North America. The narrator referred to Mexico as Central America and that is factually wrong. I never said Spanglish is unique to Chicanos or the Mexico-US border. However, it originated there, is predominant there, and the largest user base is there. The video also clearly highlights Miami's own form of Spanglish. That being said, my opening sentence clearly indicates that I am relating MY experience as Chicano, the only experience I have, which doesn't diminish any other group of Spanglish speakers.

In Costa Rica we have "el patua" it's almost the same, a mix between spanish and english. Pura vida

@PeaceLoveHonor

23 күн бұрын

He explains this isn't quite like that.

@JonathanHerrera2410

23 күн бұрын

@@PeaceLoveHonor For that, I wrote “almost the same”

Thank you for showing us this interesting mix that has a unique history behind. It is a shame the hatred in the comments, but haters gonna hate. Keep it up and long live to Llanito.

@JF80001

22 күн бұрын

Hatred dude where just pointing out that it's not that rare, it maybe be amazing in a European point of view but this stuff happens in both coasts of the US so much. In fact you could say these people are the haters they appear snobby and feel unique for doing the exact same shit that is done across the ocean

@juanjacobomoracerecero6604

22 күн бұрын

@@JF80001 And what if they aren't aware of what happens in the US? I din't see any snobby behavior, just people that likes their way of speaking and want to preserve it. The outcome is probably the same, the reasons aren't.

Sounds like a blast for the English/Spanish fast and fluent. One of the thousands of places I need to visit in Espana

This was amazing, te amo llanito

Y "el rufo me likea"? "voy a parkear el carro". That's not just code switching. I suppose both are dialects, just with differences, which I'm really really interested in learning.

This is super fascinating! Also-it looks _so_ beautiful there!

Heyooh welcome back! Took you long enough haha.