The Unique Origins of Humanity in the Fossil Record
Ғылым және технология
Does the fossil record prove humans developed from ape-like ancestors? Or does it reveal that humans had a unique origin? In this lecture, geologist Casey Luskin offers some surprising evidence about the fossil history of humanity.
Dr. Luskin is co-author of the book Science and Human Origins, and an editor of The Comprehensive Guide to Science and Faith.
This talk was originally offered as part of the 2021 Dallas Conference on Science and Faith sponsored by Discovery Institute.
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I remember the first time I saw the chart which supposedly depicted the evolution of man from an ape. I was eleven and did not take it seriously then and have not wavered from that position. I am now old. Thank you so much for your enthusiastic presentation.
@marcocappelli5124
2 жыл бұрын
Joan Kent So, in that time you have made extensive research on the topic from an objective point of view?
@Yesunimwokozi1
2 жыл бұрын
Wow..same experience
@himwhoisnottobenamed5427
Жыл бұрын
Pity you never asked questions from reputable scientists (which nobody at the DI is). Instead you _chose_ to remain ignorant.
@silvercenturion4214
5 ай бұрын
@@Yesunimwokozi1wilful ignorance
Congrats on getting that PhD Casey! Looking forward to more of your contributions to this important debate.
@himwhoisnottobenamed5427
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In 2017 Casey Luskin wrote a brilliant article that was published in the book "Theistic Evolution: A Scientific, Philosophical, and Theological Critique" called "Missing Transitions: Human Origins and the Fossil Record" that seriously undermines the popular Neanderthal narratives, well worth the read.
This is one of my childhood memories, once every some time i heard in tv that they found missing link, but then it turns out its actually not.
The Chuck Norris jokes were the best part of the entire presentation! Good job Casey!
Abiogenesis is a Failure. James tour 👍
@eswn1816
2 жыл бұрын
Yes... but worse, it's a farce! 😬
Chuck Norris has a grizzly bear throw rug in his cabin. The bear’s not dead. He’s just afraid to move.
Also, keep in mind that the oldest found human footprints are older than the oldest found bones of apes.
Why isn’t this taught in schools? This is all new to me.
@colinthomson5358
2 жыл бұрын
There's a good book called The Bone Peddlers which is worth checking out. It may annoy a Christian at times as he does argue against really dumb arguments put forth by some Christians and he does have a New Age feel to his views. However, he is most angry at the pro-evolutionary side and how they make patchy evidence into 100% proof. He thinks these people are lying to the public by making their theories seem way more certain than they are. The fossil record is much too mysterious for that. I would hope both sides of the debate could read the book with an open mind. I can't remember the authors name atm.
@colinthomson5358
2 жыл бұрын
There are loads of things taught in school as fact that probably shouldn't be. The arguments on the other side are ignored. The kids are taught the ideology that the elite subscribe too. That is sadly the purpose of school these days.
@JohnnyAnderson1
2 жыл бұрын
Satan is working overtime in schools
@kojilopez7484
2 жыл бұрын
Cuz they skeeered to let the public know...hahaha
@stevenwiederholt7000
2 жыл бұрын
@Jolly Green THAT my friend is A Very Good Question. I wish I had an answer that doesn't involve (anti-Religious) Bias on the part of the science establishment.
There are no transitional fossils for any genus which should be 10X the amount of current fossil finds.
@gonulelz6259
2 жыл бұрын
10x is too modest. If random mutation were name of the game, the amount of transitional fossil should be something like 10000000000000x
@mmaegaard
2 жыл бұрын
All fossils are transitional. There are no non-transitional fossils.
@jotandtittle
2 жыл бұрын
@@mmaegaard the Cambrian Transition
@Greenie-43x
2 жыл бұрын
How does one determine if all fossils are transitional? What is the verification process?
@mmaegaard
2 жыл бұрын
@@Greenie-43x Are you a clone of one of your parents?
Thank you for the extensive information! You had me taking notes!
Pretty interesting i have to admit. Keep on working docs :D
Terrific presentation, Dr. Luskin. Many thanks!
Awesome!! Great work Dr. Luskin!!
Many thanks :)
Great talk, thank you. And great job with the bit of humor at the end that underlined your point well! :-)
Thanks Casey for your hard work exposing the scammers. I enjoyed your book.
@himwhoisnottobenamed5427
Жыл бұрын
“Exposing scammers”? Casey _is_ a scammer. As is every “scientist” at the Discovery Institute.
I really liked this presentation and I will be a bit more confident in using the "big bang theory of human evolution" in conversations. The humour at the end was - what shall I say?- bang on!!
Well done, Doc! So glad to see you were able to retain your sense of humor! Keep up the great work!!!
Great job, Casey. Love the Chuck Norris ending.
10 years ago I was so certain evolution was true. I would laugh at Christians arguing otherwise. I am disgusted by how arrogant I was made by experts talking about "this is 100% proof for X. No doubt" I understand the problems with the fossil record. And what does that say? When I was ignorant I was 100% behind evolutionary theory. As I knew more and more doubts started cracking that certainty. I am just glad Christians have the the testicular fortitude needed to push back against our Expert Class.
@colinthomson5358
2 жыл бұрын
One of the things that opened my mind was the big deal made about Lucy. They never once explain to the public that actually we just don't know. Why can't they admit that to the public? I would be ashamed if the people I worked with were more concerned with pushing a narrative than trying to find the truth. I remember watching the scientist file away at the pelvic bones and adding things then tilting it and saying "Wow look evidence she walked upright!" Uhh didn't you just change the evidence first?
That's the best video I have found
The hype is part of the plan. It's meant to keep the faithful, faithful and to dupe the next sucker.
Israeli and French scientists who created a Chuck Norris-like Neanderthal should have a Netflix comedy show
Awesome 👌
Thank you Casey PHD
Very very informative, not bad for a neanderthal... (Why insulting Chuck N.?) The end is disappointing.
I googled "Irish stew." It's funny.
it really looked like Chuck!!
Why doesn't Chuck Norris wear a watch? HE tells YOU what time it is!
Well done!
Fantastic presentation: clear, concise, factual. The slides were immensely helpful in holding onto your information. And especially appreciate the quotes on the slides to give weight to the view that human "evolution" is scientifically an open question and not a settled fact. Thanks!
Awesome
Sir Solly Zuckerman, a primate expert and materialist who considered the evolution of man from apes as self evident, nonetheless had a terrible opinion of most of the fossil evidence for Man's descent from apes and called it untrustworthy at best. Zuckerman's judgement of the professional standards of physical anthropology was not a generous one. Sir Zuckerman's judgement of their professional standards compared them to parapsychology at best and remarked, that the record of reckless speculation in human origins is so astonishing that it is legitimate to ask whether much science is to be found in this field at all." That is a damning indictment to bring against a whole field of science, but Sir Solly's measurements (to technical to go into) showed that the Australopithecines so called ability to walk upright was nothing more than the bias of the scientist (?) making the observation. I used to work with scientists like this. That Life just appeared from natural processes was not even questioned, it was self evident. I would point out that there must have been massive amounts of DNA/RNA so animals wouldn't be inbred. This idea needed some explanation as obviously it isn't happening now.
@marcocappelli5124
2 жыл бұрын
*"That Life just appeared from natural processes was not even questioned, it was self evident"* So, they should have considered a supernatural, untestable origin? Should they consider a supernatural origin for lightning as well, or just for the origin of life?
@mugdiller2124
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcocappelli5124 I'm still waiting for OoL scientists to give an operational definition of life - what it is, not what it does.
@MountainFisher
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcocappelli5124 If one is not allowed to make an inference to the best explanation because of philosophical bias then you can hardly call yourself scientific. 'If I cannot see it or measure it then it doesn't have any merit.' Sounds like a Zetetic point of view.
Good talk and a lot of research I would suggest to use a lot of other visual aids like slides, pictures, charts and algorithms. The picture in the back ground is beautiful but should be replaced by running visual aids. You will get a lot more viewers that way
Brilliant! Related reading - Life Without Evolution: A Comprehensive Deconstruction of Darwin's Creation Story.
In Russia modern objects like screws and doorknobs are found in rocks that are supposedly billions of years old.
lots of assertions but little objectivity or evidence very proud of the words
What are they waiting for? Another intermediate fossil, an another, and so on?
Thanks and Congrats for the PhD. some notes from the talk. Ardi as a hominin when discovered was dated to about 4.5 million years of age. That means that she was exactly the age of her ancestral Apes and living together with them or even older than them. How could that be true when you find the Ar. ramidus with bipedal characters evolved from ancestors that she is almost older than ??? Not only that but you find the next evolved generation too Australopithecines with almost the same age dating. Any how, one need to see some signs of indication of a mental development left belong to this creature such as prime drawings or any sign that proves that such an agent has even any limited intellectual at all leading to human??
Please could these videos be made as a podcast so we could listen offline ?
I am a highly educated (PhD... graduate from MIT... post-graduate at Oxford... published... etc.) My comment: The classic evolutionary theory is nothing more than a speculative paradigm lacking scientific evidence. In other words, it's "Academic propaganda" that delights atheists and scientific materialists. The early post-Darwinian reaction supports this as does more recent quotes: "Evolution makes me feel good about being an atheist."
@cartermahanay2729
2 жыл бұрын
Could the man of lawlessness described in 2 Thess. 2 be Darwin, and materialist Scientists? What great signs and wonders has “science” produced. Has God sent a delusion to those who’ve jumped on the “science” bandwagon?
@Jonas-gl9ke
2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure of the point you’re attempting to make: 1. Even if evolution were not true, this would not prove the existence of any god. Whether or not one believes in evolution is independent as to whether or not any god exists. 2. How do you feel about Francis Collins, former head of the human genome project and founder of BioLogos, a Christian advocacy group that affirms evolutionary creation? One can believe in evolution and still claim to be a Christian.
@eswn1816
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jonas-gl9ke You, like many, confuse "Evolution" = gradual change over time with "abiogenesis" = chemical / random origin life. "Survival of the fittest" says nothing about ™ arrival of the fittest." Collins, I think, believes that God used evolution. He is not an atheist and does not support your point.
@jonhiggins2012
2 жыл бұрын
@@eswn1816 Yup. Information does not occur in nature on its own. DNA is literally biological code, and code needs a programmer.
"Evolution is more impossible than the Blue Fairy, the Witch of the North, Aladdin's genies, the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, the Headless Horseman, and the mathematical definition of impossible all put together." Dr. Joseph Mastropaolo
@foreversurfingthenet2641
2 жыл бұрын
Karl Priest Strange you have no problem with a talking serpent, magic staff, fruit from a tree containing all knowledge, people leaving their graves, a man living 900 years, parting of the sea, a man walking on water, a woman formed overnight from a mans rib, and a sky daddy who knows everything you do and everything you are thinking......etc etc
@dmitriy-k732
4 ай бұрын
@@foreversurfingthenet2641 it sounds like "supernatural being capable to intervene in nature can't exist, because of some reports from deep past about interventions in nature by supernatural beings".
Human intelligence is the greatest mystery of all. Why would natural selection select for an intelligence level so far beyond what is necessary for survival in the environment in which ancient humans were found.
To be honest when I believed in evolution and I watched this video you really destroyed my "evidence" for it well done Dr Casey Luskin I would like to see someone using your information to debate someone like Aron Ra
@davidkeenan5642
2 жыл бұрын
If your sole evidence for evolution was the fossil record, it's not surprising that you no longer accept the veracity of the theory. But it does seem that your change of belief is based on ignorance.
I will stand with God 🙏
@Jonas-gl9ke
2 жыл бұрын
Which god?
@jakejones3453
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jonas-gl9ke The God who created all things and sent his only son for people like me and you.
@jonhiggins2012
2 жыл бұрын
I used to be an angry atheist but in this last year, I have found, read, and watched so many unexplainable and literally miraculous things.
Why are the fossils/bones that are found so often from the skull or jaw but not the femur? I would think the femur, particularly at the socket, was a denser bone with a greater chance of surviving over time.
@hylaherping9180
2 жыл бұрын
Teeth are the hardest parts of mammals which is why in some areas, entire extinct clades of mammals are only known from teeth and jaw fragments.
Viewers are advised to source fact check Luskin & the DI's various claims, as they have a knack for leaving out anything that doesn't fit their narrative (which doesn't actually involve a positive ID explanation for the data, but a criticism of evolutionary models as if doing so somehow validates their non-model).
@anthonypolonkay2681
2 жыл бұрын
What if we fact check them, and it's all correct?
@hasserl
2 жыл бұрын
You do realize the same criticism can accurately be said of the Darwinists, right?
There are many such big bangs in the fossil record where complex species simply appear suddenly without evolutionary precursors. It points to a designer creator installing various life forms on earth in various phases. Even though we don't exactly know how to match a literal 6 days creation with a millions of years fossil record there are too many coincidences in Genesis to simply write off as myth i.e. the universe creation big bang in Gen 1:1 followed by various life creation big bangs in the Days. We now know time is relative and can be warped, so maybe God did a local time warp around the earth, during those days...
So where does the creation of Adam and Eve fit in or when were Adam and Eve created ?
He is obviously a knowledgeable person, but his wild and random hand movements are very distracting. He is a major source of information and prominent in the field. He desperately needs someone to help him in his presentation and help his windmill hands to calm down.
This was a very interesting talk. My problem would be with the idea that any human population could exist on the earth for many tens or hundreds of thousands of years without developing at least a Neolithic level of culture. If these populations had human language and abstraction abilities, why did they never develop any sort of mathematics or literature? Humans talk, believe in the divine or think about ultimate origins, do art, make music, build houses, etc. My understanding is that none of these things happened until maybe twenty or thirty thousand years ago. For many years, I have considered evolution to have serious problems with philosophical implications, since it asserts that humanity and human capacity developed in small steps, varying very much in different groups. To avoid the obvious racist implications, we would need to see humanity as a true "big bang" of our full suite of abilities, not anything a Darwinist view could explain.
@nicolassbrown9881
Жыл бұрын
There are indigenous groups still existing today, and many more in recent history, that never developed math and literature. But once exposed to education, they quickly learn the same intellectual abilities. There are no racist implications once you realise that the differences are cultural and not genetic. Darwin himself made this mistake, believing some races to be closer to apes in their intellectual and moral faculties, but he was only echoing the popular beliefs of the time.
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@eswn1816
2 жыл бұрын
"Science"... The Big Bang theory of evolution... Truth... Creation!
If he was under oath, Wetherington committed perjury!
Could the man of lawlessness described in 2 Thess. 2 be Darwin, and materialist Scientists? What great signs and wonders has “science” produced. Has God sent a delusion to those who’ve jumped on the “science” bandwagon?
Faith is the enemy of reason.
@rl7012
8 ай бұрын
What is reasonable about scientific dogmatism?
@TheGtk444
24 күн бұрын
Faith is based on reason.
@Garthinyus
23 күн бұрын
Christian Faith is being told the truth by the Creator about Himself and His creation before the rest of humanity discovers it.
Hey, creationists, Christian and/or Muslim, even if evolution was proven wrong right now, (which it hasn’t) that does NOT automatically prove competing/opposing claims as true. Go look up what a “scientific” theory is compared to a “colloquial” theory. Also, look up the fallacies of “false dichotomy” and “argument from ignorance.”
@jonhiggins2012
2 жыл бұрын
It is disingenuous to say that there aren't problems with Neo-Darwinism. You can admit that without admitting God is real.
Scientist just published new ancestor Homo bodoensis my friend And don’t part quote from people who believe in evolution in your cause like dr.yuval noah as his book sapien talks about evolution as true fact The evolutionary record and timing is always right as dawkins said combine that with genes we get a fact !
I never liked the term homosapiens because it just sounds very evolutionary. We are MAN made in God's image!
The human body is fragmented into cells, why is fragmented stuff implied to be wrong? Good for a laugh 😂
@hasserl
2 жыл бұрын
"Fragmented stuff" is not implied to be wrong, it is implied to be inconclusive and lacking of value in supporting a theory of macro evolution.