My Dhamma Book (also available on Paper): drive.google.com/file/d/1d8VYL5iOi76u1AEmyI7iGpgPP3T5FaNa/view?usp=sharing My Almanac (also available on Paper): drive.google.com/file/d/1VzAw8zHdhOsDDUzPEubTN64qhVmQhZ0m/view?usp=sharing True Dhamma Lecture: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6mjvJWCl9erlbQ.html Dhamma Hub Discord: discord.gg/AcDwZ78ybn

Thank you.

AN4.159 > "Relying on craving, you should give up craving." (said by Ven. Ananda)

🙏

Yup, it's the old craving not to crave that's such a kicker; wanting not to want, striving not to strive. That way leads to madness. For me, I think the path forward is accepting the craving, even for no craving, and let it pass on its own; not throwing it away, actively rejecting it, since that is more dissatisfaction with what is, but letting it go, like releasing a fish into a stream. A bit paradoxically, accepting certain craving without embracing it leads to less craving. Thanks for these talks; they are very helpful.

“…poisons our existence.” This takes the “morality” right out of it. Greed, anger and delusion, it’s not they are morally “bad,” it’s that they just aren’t good for you and your life. The dharma floating around out here is invaluable, things I’ve struggled with for years - I just needed another human to state it differently. Turns of phrases now. I just ditched my 20 year career in the law, my life’s pursuit and I now I feel like a Phoenix rising. Cue Jerry Stiller.

Thank you! But when you say “meme yourself” is this synonymous with “trick yourself”?

@TheDhammaHub

9 күн бұрын

Yes! Thats a bit of a youth-speak term that I picked up as I spend time with quite a number of young practitioners online

When one sees the Dhamma clearly, it is quite simple: "Here, ruler of gods, a bhikkhu has heard that nothing is worth adhering to. When a bhikkhu has heard that nothing is worth adhering to, he directly knows everything; having directly known everything, he fully understands everything; having directly known everything, he fully understood everything, whatever feeling he feels, whether pleasant or painful or neither pleasant or painful, he abides contemplating impermanence in those feelings, contemplating fading away, contemplating cessation, contemplating relinquishment (letting go). Contemplating thus, he does not cling to anything in the world. When he does not cling , he is not agitated, he personally attains Nibbana. He understands: ‘Birth is destroyed, the holy life has been lived, there is no more coming to any state of being.’ Briefly, it is in this way, ruler of gods, that a bhikkhu is liberated in the destruction of craving, one who has reached the ultimate end, the ultimate security from bondage, the ultimate holy life, the ultimate goal, one who is foremost among gods and humans.” (MN 37) The profundity of the Dhamma is that, once it is seen, craving no longer is the driver of action, which is contrary to all human behavior. Instead, action is based on mindfulness and wisdom, driven by knowledge and vision of what is and is not the path, what leads to dukkha Nirodha, to Nibbana. Craving is not part of the raft, it is left on the shore that had been abandoned. This is the one topic where you and I seem unable to come to a mutually understanding on, my Dhamma friend 🙏

@TheDhammaHub

11 күн бұрын

Well, I have given a number of Sutta citations even in this short video where the Buddha says otherwise^^ The craving for perfection is abandoned upon attaining perfection. It is still a craving. The entire fetter model would not make any sense if craving was already abandoned right here and there - but the Buddha says that there can be, sometime quite a lot, craving left. The ultimate root might have been pulled but there is still all the leftover Kamma that needs to be dealt with. Stream Entry/Seeing the Dhamma means that you have understood how to build a raft and how to maneuver it to the island of safety. It does not mean that you are already there^^

@Mountain_Dhamma

10 күн бұрын

@@TheDhammaHub Yes, definitely not already there upon stream entry, but no longer reliant upon craving imo. Sati-pañña replaces craving as the agent of action. As for suttas, there are suttas that support craving for the end of craving, and there are suttas that support the abandoning of craving here and now. But ultimately this doesn’t matter. Those who know and see the dhamma are the happy ones. The exact definitions are obsolete

@TheDhammaHub

10 күн бұрын

@@Mountain_Dhamma Abandon craving here and now and craving for the end of craving are not mutually exclusive. In fact, the former depends on the latter and cannot come to fruition without it^^ I say this quite often, especially to you, but the point of the Dhamma is to make it _impossible that craving and suffering rearise again_ . The Dhamma's main purpose is not to "make craving go away" while you are already affected by it, the purpose of the Dhamma is to make craving that is already gone _stay away_ - you want to make it impossible to re-engage with it. _That_ is the job of dependent origination. How do you ensure that you yourself do not _choose_ to go back to sensuality through carelessness, forgetfulness, temptations by Mara or one of the various other different means? How do you become "immune" to something as subtle as simple _forgetting_ after possibly eons of time that eradicate all clearness of memory? Abandoning craving here and now is very important but it is still on the side of virtue. It is not noble and no Buddha is required for this. However, what protects you from going back to sensuality when Mara whispers his convincing lies into your ears? This is what the Dhamma protects you from and this is probably the chief misunderstanding between the Buddha-Dhamma and the numerous schools of Buddhism nowadays that claim that all religions are the same^^

@Mountain_Dhamma

10 күн бұрын

@@TheDhammaHub some people are stupid (like the horse who needs to feel the whip split it’s skin) while others are intelligent (like the horse who corrects his behavior at the shadow of the whip). Some understand the first time they see it, that dissatisfaction is insanity, that nothing needs to be gained, that life is already ok as it is. These are just different types of faculties, conditionings.

@TheDhammaHub

10 күн бұрын

@@Mountain_Dhamma That would still be the mundane part, not yet the Dhamma. Understanding that sensuality is a painful insanity is "mundane" and has been understood and practiced by many ascetics of the past that have never heard of the Buddha. That is not the special contribution! Again, the special contribution is what makes it impossible to _forget_ that sensuality is painful! What makes it impossible to become _negligent_ again! What makes it impossible to give in to temptations _ever again_ - this is the job of the Dhamma. Getting rid of all hindrances and suffering ca n be done in all religions and all (working) virtue systems. And all those also see sensuality as painful and dangerous no matter if they understand it quickly or slowly, painfully or joyfully.