You can't force the vibe if you ain't feeling it keep it pushing. I think those beats made it to their rightful home 🙌

@TredecimMusic

10 ай бұрын

Agreed!

@periseanbaltimore2037

9 ай бұрын

Facts!!!

@SuperArt7

9 ай бұрын

Exactly....Artist will hear different things in they head when they get a beat.

@michaelbrandon1222

9 ай бұрын

Facts

@JeromeProductions

9 ай бұрын

Yup

So glad Luda got The Potion beat. Highly underrated as a rapper and perfect blend of comedy and bars.

@freshtv5222

9 ай бұрын

One of most underrated rappers of all time. I’ve never really heard a wack feature from him.

@msphere760

9 ай бұрын

You put it perfectly. I think the that's why he's never mentioned amongst the greats - because of his comedic approach.

@Mack_Worlds_Media

9 ай бұрын

@@freshtv5222Facts bro Luda always spitting 🔥

@diashawncoles2435

9 ай бұрын

Facts luda was always king of the south

@lorenzohunter6658

9 ай бұрын

Well out of all artist the most appreciated should be Joe Budden that's like his only song he's known for not trying to be funny plus that's one of those songs you'll hear decades later at events movies etc that's an all age song that brings people together to have a good time!

Love the combo of hip hop history transitioning into beat breakdowns. Great job navie

@thedfferencetab1977

9 ай бұрын

i agree

@brandonclark8395

9 ай бұрын

Yep

You can literally do this for every legend. They get presented beats constantly. Impossible not to pass up on some bangers

I'm glad he passed up on em. Gave us some of the greatest hip-hop records. Jay knew what he was doing.

@NavieD

10 ай бұрын

Fair!

@kalosbeats

10 ай бұрын

Hindsight bias

@fentanyljones6956

10 ай бұрын

@@kalosbeatscame to say the same in so many words.

@crickcrackcricketycrack5501

10 ай бұрын

Exactly, jus cos they good beats don't mean they're a right fit for him.

@EmanonKing

10 ай бұрын

@@crickcrackcricketycrack5501pump it up was definitely a good fit as he murdered it later

Here's a fun fact. That Kool & The Gang sample, "Soul Vibrations" that Jay-Z passed on and Joe Budden made a hit with, was already used. First, by LL Cool J with "Cheesy Rat Blues", and second on "What's The Scenario (remix)" by A Tribe Called Quest with Leaders of the New School and Kid Hood.

@clarencew5535

9 ай бұрын

Scenario remix was a instant classic and IMO better than Pump it Up.

@kelvindavis7806

9 ай бұрын

Word! I was at College Homecoming party on Saturday and that remix came on! Everybody lost it!! Certified banger!@@clarencew5535

@JeanLucHouedanou

9 ай бұрын

And also on soul clap by styles p

@TheModeRed

9 ай бұрын

Which would explain why Jay Z might pass on it at first.

@lalofiveseven810

8 ай бұрын

".......and he goes by the name of uhhhhhh.... " What a climatic intro! Then the whole squad shouts his name...to start the 1st verse. They call it a remix. That's scenario Pt. 2 "That's The ScenarioooOOOo!" Ioncare what anybody says. He mentions (Busta) the former title in spoken word in the intro...but closes that last verse w/a long drawn mic dropper better than any "um, yeeeaah..." by any KardaziaaahhN sister, then horns finalize tf outta what I'm saying. BlÆh! BlÆh! (X2) (Don't take the comment to serious as I do this for my own entertainment, mostly. Ty for creating that avenue.)

The "Gimme dat beat fool..." line was on the Ice Cube song Jackin For Beats and was on the EP Kill At Will in 1990. Guarantee Jay was a fan back then. There's your history lesson for the day

@MetaMan09

9 ай бұрын

🔥🔥🔥

Jay Z has a particular sound he seems to look for in beats. He carefully picks his beats to match his lyrics/flow. There are tons of great beats I can see Jay Z turning down. That said plenty of rappers/artists get caught up in the moment and will turn down plenty of tracks and I'm sure years later they will be thinking to themselves "why did i sleep on this". I know a few friends I make beats for will call me up like 10 years later ready to do a song, and now I'm thinking the track lost its edge lol.

@genius179

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I think "The Potion" beat is super tough, however to your point I do not think that beat fits Jay well. That's just my opinion.

@satiyasogiba5040

9 ай бұрын

Yeah he don't just use an obvious sound.. He always wants a different kind

@aclayton231

9 ай бұрын

Spot on and you can tell when Jay was with Timbaland and dirt off my shoulder came on, Jay stood up with authority and head bopped to it instantly, also like Busta rhyme did at Timbaland home studio. Most rappers know what's gonna get them highly motivated to produce a great product. 💯

This content is so out of the box, I'm surprised I didn't know I was subscribed, awesome!!!! real value here 💯

He’s insane passing on We Gon’ Make It. That is a beast.

@UdaamWright

9 ай бұрын

I’m trying to picture it in my head, but I’m just not hearing him on it… 🤷🏾‍♂️

@mcgritty8842

9 ай бұрын

Tf difference does it make? Not our career and dude made an insane amount of money off rapping alone. Jay made no mistakes passing on these beats

@bungle3912

9 ай бұрын

@@mcgritty8842 Yeah, he did, as his later albums had a lot of garbage on them. I Know Wjat Girls Like? No thanks.

@sicarresupreme

9 ай бұрын

​@@bungle3912I love lil Kim's verse on that song but you right that song is trash

@tshepomalaka9679

9 ай бұрын

Could it be that it sounds or gives a similar feeling to Guess Who’s Back feat Kanye & Scarface… I don’t know… I’m reaching … but maybe

Minor correction: The line in Jay-Z’s song “gimme that beat fool it’s full a time jack move” is paying homage to Ice Cube who originally said that line in his popular song from 1990 “Jackin For Beats” where the beat would keep switching up throughout the song to various popular beats by other popular rappers of the time. It was never seen as a diss.

@TheSupremeDunk

9 ай бұрын

Also "Pump it Up" the beat is paying homage to Tribe Called Quest "Scenario Remix" ....he missed a few important gems in this video

@luvitluvitbaby

9 ай бұрын

@@TheSupremeDunk Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

@sunnysoto1084

9 ай бұрын

​@@TheSupremeDunkI fucken love rap nerds

@chrisforbes7832

9 ай бұрын

You're correct in the reference, but incorrect that it wasn't a diss. Jay loves double entendres which is what that was. The next line is "Don't worry Skano I'll give it back soon". Skane Dollar was Joe Budden's manager

@SDSOverfiend

9 ай бұрын

@@TheSupremeDunkHe wasn’t paying homage… trust me. He was paying Joe Budden back for Flow jacking on that record. Budden lifted His flow from “The Bounce”.

The "We Gonna Make It" beat definitely coulda been on The Blueprint. it fit sonically

@gsp1634

9 ай бұрын

Yeah that sounds like a Jay z beat

@Saveyourbs

9 ай бұрын

@@gsp1634I always thought that it would be a perfect beat for Will Smith

@danieljulbe2162

9 ай бұрын

@@gsp1634Fr fr

@chiarosuburekeni9325

9 ай бұрын

100 percent

@ADG.Est.1988

9 ай бұрын

I agree.

"Gimme that beat fool, it's a full time jack move" is the opening line of Ice Cube's song "Jackin' For Beats"

@apexone5502

10 ай бұрын

I was just about to mention the same thing had I not seen your post.

@aldali724

10 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s true but knowing the story behind it makes it easy to see it as a diss

This is the best channel on YT so far.ive always wanted to make beats/be a dj, also break-down and analyze production...never did. Ive always had interest in all the oldschool classics, finding out where samples came from.Its so dope what youre doin, appreciate the work, props to you man.

Passing up on a beat isn't 'rejecting' it. Committing to a beat requires an immense amount of investment (time & energy)

@mcgritty8842

9 ай бұрын

According to this dude, these were huge mistakes in Jay’s career

I would love to see a video analysing the Black Thought and Danger Mouse album, Cheat Codes. Listened to it a couple days ago and absolutely loved it. Seeing a video of yours about this album would be incredible

@NavieD

10 ай бұрын

Ohh I forgot about that album. I haven't listened to it yet

@dkproducer

10 ай бұрын

@@NavieDit’s great but the mixing is bad IMO

@ukhokama2693

10 ай бұрын

​@@dkproducerstop thinking you quincy jones nigga

@fentanyljones6956

10 ай бұрын

@@NavieDa Dangermouse breakdown (or 2 or 3) would be dope and only you can come correct with it. I’d also like to see you speak on Muggs, The Bomb Squad.

@jrobbin24

10 ай бұрын

DJ Muggs is one of the most underrated producers in hip-hop history. I would love to see a video on him. Another producer I feel like we’ll never get the credit. He deserves is Mike E Clark. He produced Insane Clown Posse’s actual good albums from the 90s and he never gets the credit due because hip-hop has never embraced psychopathic records. I can’t say I’ve ever been a Juggalo but if you actually listen to the beats on Ringmaster or great Milenko, they are absolutely phenomenal and the mixing is perfect.

Man your videos are really awesome.. especially that your are skilled to rebuild these beats and show them to us

It's not a mistake, it's all about feeling.

@jimmy_b_wp

9 ай бұрын

Exactly. How tf this guy gonna say huge mistake? JZ still one of the GOATS

Man I have to say.. You are probably the best at breaking down these beats, showing just enough to learn a little game but also not watching a 1 our video. Kudos my man.

@charismatickidd

9 ай бұрын

Digging the greats is a good look too…check him out

Thanks for the quality content Navie 🙏

thanks for always droppin that knowledge! Also, cool to see you the other day live reviewing beats. Maybe you can live stream you making bangers? peace and love from Japan.

@NavieD

10 ай бұрын

Ooh I haven't done a beatmaking livestream in like 8 years hahah. It always made me nervous

@edwinoneill5471

10 ай бұрын

GOAT DJSUNNYSIDE

you really became the best at this youtube producer content bro. keep going!

Ya content is so dope bro! 💯💪🏾

That whoa beat will always be🔥🔥🔥🔥that sample flip is crazy

@Big.dragon00

9 ай бұрын

timeless beat

@seancagney8897

9 ай бұрын

That beat is crazy......

it's not about the beat, it's about how connect with it and equally how you ride on it.

dude, I accidentally bumped in to one of your videos, now I can't stop watching. love to meet a another soul who put time to technicalities of tracks

@NavieD

10 ай бұрын

Glad to have you on board my friend!

please more videos like this navie, entertaining and informative 👌 i could watch stuff like this all day

Great video sir!! It certainly surprised me!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Honestly, I think Jay-Z made the right choice. I think the artist that eventually went with the songs also made the right choice. It happened the way it needed to happen for a reason. Jay-Z is still at the top of his game at over 50 years old, choosing the records that he wanted and not choosing the beats that didn’t touch his soul or his heart like they did for you.

@nikolaykostadinov2335

9 ай бұрын

:D

I remember hearing about the Jay-Z/Dipset "Oh Boy" beat issue with Just Blaze as well.

Been lovin your videos man, keep up the great work. I’m only a minute in & im excited for the rest of it haha. Bless

your videos are top tier broski. keep up the great work! 👊🏼

One of my favorite videos you’ve done so far. Being a big alchemist fan myself I have to ask you a question. What do you think about his more recent beats? I recently went looking for inspiration and found most of his new beats, have no snares or claps or anything in that spot. I’ve heard beats like that in the past, but they were far and a few and they were so good that it made up for the missing instrument. In this case it seems in my opinion, like he may have lost his way since P passed but I’m not sure if it was just me.

@willlicks8584

10 ай бұрын

lost his way???? the elephant man's bones is a masterpiece

@jrobbin24

10 ай бұрын

This is why I asked. I might just be getting old. Alchemist has always been in my top five producers of all time, and Mobb Deep is my favorite rap group. I just seemed to notice a trend and it’s not just with him where boom BAP producers have taken the bap out of the BOOMBAP and I have to say it’s not for me.

@jrobbin24

10 ай бұрын

I guess the best way to put it is a lot of these newer beats feel like a lead in and I find myself waiting for the beat to drop the whole entire song

@willlicks8584

10 ай бұрын

@@jrobbin24 you're not objectively wrong, but boombap isn't gonna last forever, my brotha. times are changing and people are growing, changing, and evolving. stagnation is death

Man you never fail to make me laugh while making me learn at the same time. Thanks for all of your work Navie!

PERFECT VIDEO. You went on about the samples then showed the creation process. Perfection man

appreciate the effort you put into weekly uploads

Always learn something new when you're subscribed to this channel

@NavieD

10 ай бұрын

Glad I can help my love!

We Gonna Make It is in my workout playlist. I don't understand how Jay-Z passed up on that beat but I love how it turned out. 🔥🔥🔥

@yannickanselm7284

10 ай бұрын

Jay is all over that beat when I hear it

@terrenceliburd8655

8 ай бұрын

It was good but ive heard better even by Alchi himself.

First time coming across this channel, and the content ‘Hip-Hop, Producing, Sampling’? Man, count me in!

i havent loved content this much in a while. very good shit, brother.

Man when you announced this yesterday I was excited. I'm still hoping you do a Just Blaze video lol

@NavieD

10 ай бұрын

I gotta say, I have broken down 2 of his beats (the other one will come out in a month or so) and I gotta say, he does a lot of interesting things that you don't quite see on the surface

@keejay12

10 ай бұрын

@@NavieD yeah he does. I always loved his production style. I heard the sample he used for Don't Cross The Line by Freeway and can't figure out what he chopped out and how he got it to sound like that

A lot of beat selection has to do with the overall aesthetic of the album. For instance, he wasn’t trying to make an album that sounded like Reasonable Doubt, in 2000. But Jay definitely was taking shots at Budden in the remix. Budden asked Jay to bless the track with a feature, and Jay told him he wld do it for $100k. Budden laughed and the rest is history.

Loved the beat breakdown!!

Ur videos are so fire dude. Very insightful

Which one of these rejected beats was your favorite?

@Master27base

10 ай бұрын

the second one

@menfefan8893

10 ай бұрын

Pump it up

@MvnStn

10 ай бұрын

Whoa, ofc!

Not impossible. Whoa is so iconic, I called it from the bass and drum pattern. I was OBSESSED with that beat back in the day. It still goes crazy!

@NK-gp5jj

9 ай бұрын

Yup, I caught it as soon as the bassline kicked it

Well done, video! Top tier

Super dope episode 🔥🔥🔥

3:14 this might be my favorite beat of all time. Funny enough the first time I remember hearing it was when the cactus plant flea market McDonald’s trailer dropped. I thought it sounded A LOT like fun by Vince staples until someone showed me potion by ludacris. Makes me wanna see a Timbaland Vince colab. Beautiful beat

Passing up on "We Gon' Make It" is straight BLASPHEMY!! 😂

@MetaMan09

9 ай бұрын

Facts idc what no one says, and it fits his personality 💯

Nice creative video bro. Whoa brings back memories classic

Great video bro.

Whoa is such a dope song and the beat is absolutely 🔥 still one of my favorites

I think things worked out the way they were supposed to. Sometimes, a track is just meant for who ends up on it. Besides, had Jay took those beats, who's to say that they would've been hot records. For example, I heard that Busta Rhymes passed on Lil Wayne's A Milli beat. That song was meant to be just the way it is.

Dope video!

Dope informations !❤

When Jay took pump it up I was perplexed because the original by Joey was my personal shit. But when Joey re-took the beat back it made me feel better. JERSEY! 🥂

Ras Kass didn't pass up on the "We Gon Make It" beat which was originally his with "Home Sweet Home" but that situation between him and ALC is messy.

@seancagney8897

9 ай бұрын

YEP, was going to say this myself but scrolled down and saw your post. Al did Ras dirty on that.

Love the backwards breakdown on Whoa. Im subscribing now.

Great job on this video.. big up to Kool and The Gang

N TO THE AVIE , D EVERY TUESDAY! ANOTHER BANGER MY FRIEND

@NavieD

10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much Spliffgawd

Thing is, he’s got plenty of legendary beats as it is. I’m not sure if he had the bandwidth to bless every single hot beat that came his way. Especially since he wasn’t really a mixtape guy. He was mostly a studio album artist so he was trying to fit a specific sound to make his albums sound cohesive.

I loved this amazing work

Thank you for passing up on whoa! Black robs concept was special.

While he didn't pass on it, one more classic beat that Jay Z originally was supposed to have is Grindin' by Clipse produced by The Neptunes. Story goes Pharrell called Pusha T and told him if he didn't show up to his studio in 15 minutes he was gonna give the beat to Jay

illuminati: we say so

That's not Jay being disrespectful to Joe. That's an Ice Cube reference.

dope review

The fact that Navie knows who the Alchemist even is is a confirmation that he is a true hip hop head. Respect Navie ✊🏾 I personally liked the Alchemist collab with Mob Deep.

Just shows you that even todays top producers cannot make unique drum patterns like these. That's why they are the greats. Dope video as always. Thank you

@maverickREAL

10 ай бұрын

Maybe in your insular view of the production world

Just found your channel and like your videos. I like how you break down beats in detail. The beats you focus on though? After a few videos I can tell you are an East Coast guy. Man, you’re missing out. You would be awesome if you included more down south, beats that go hard. Or mix in R&B.

The “Whoa!” Beat might of been the toughest beat around that time with “Still D.R.E”

@seancagney8897

9 ай бұрын

FACTS.. That beat was crazy.

Great video, makes me think if Jay Z took these beats, it could’ve altered the course of history in such a drastic way.

@MeauxGreenMusic

10 ай бұрын

Even crazier to think about that if some beats he took that were just album cuts could have been massive hits for smaller artists....

I watched that timbo and jay in studio alot alot of times very inspiring for beatmakers

I love your channel!!!!

You killed this video 🔥🔥🔥💪🏾

IT ALWAYS AMAZES ME WHAT PRODUCERS END UP DOING WITH A RANDOM SAMPLE -- I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO MAKING BEATS

Nice fur you to help us out understand how theses are made

Soon as I heard the sample for the last beat I was like.... WHOA.

Soon as you add the bass for last beat i recognised that. Such a great beat

What app o tool to use on pc for mixing Beats thanks nice video

That whoa beat fitted Black Rob perfectly and it's was a big hit too!....Specially, here in my city....NYC!!!

As soon as you put on the drums of the last beat I instantly recognized “Whoa”

This is an incredible breakdown of the beats

Beats are sooooooooooooooo awesome! The way dude keeps showing FL Studio makes me salivate like I wanna go back in the booth.😊

Great video

The first line that Jay spits, "Gimmie that beat fool, it's a full time jack move" was borrowed from Ice Cube's Jackin' for Beats where Cube rapped over 6 other instrumentals. Jay was paying homage with that line. Others will call it plagiarism.

@MetaMan09

9 ай бұрын

I mean when you pay homage every single song it starts to feel like you need help wit how to say shit 💯😂

I like how you broke this down just subbed

i love your video's realy nice to watch and to learn from them

this is really good content

Navie, please tell me where you found the low wooden perc sound in THE POTION! I've been trying to find that for a month. Thank you.

@sandrolecirque

9 ай бұрын

is it just a pitched down wood block?

This was a dope video

I get that there's a spectrum to how claps will feel, and this one would be at home in a club beat, but a clap snapping into a snare has got to be one of the best sounds for east coast beats. Also, the distortion of that studio recording actually makes that sine synth in the potion sound so much cooler, that's the one bit of polish I would add to this minimalist beat.

that jump off beat is one of my all time favourites

Your re-creations are insane dude holyshit as a producer... hats off to you!!!

FIRE BREAKDOWN!

Man you love FL Studio, i been using it since it was Fruity loops 3, then i also used cakewalk and reason to name a few...

could we have the drums you used in this video to remake beats?

This is a great video! Can't believe anyone would pass up We Gonna Make It. I'm glad he did though because it probably wouldn't have been as great as what Jadakis and Ghist did with it.

Instantly knew the beat from “Whoa”…definitely a song that represented hip hop for me in my development