Loved Hitch's art on Ultimates. The first couple of years of the Ultimate universe was pretty good, then it just turned into a how edgier can we get contest. Gotta say Cap beating Hank Pym to pulp was oddly satisfying.

@ashtonchane6126

3 жыл бұрын

Anyone who lays the smack down thoses, who abuses, there loved ones never get old. Plus, Hank in this universe deserved to get more just he's teeth kick in.

"Mark Millar at his Millar-est" Lmao

Ultimate Origins is probably how they bring in mutants to the MCU.

I was a teen comics fan during the 90's boom, but had dropped out of comics when I entered college. The release Batman: Hush, The Ultimates, Ultimate X-men, and Ultimate Spider-Man are what brought me back. I am a vote for you to do an Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum deep dive

Luckily the MCU got a much nicer Ant Man. And Cap. And Iron Man. And actually everyone. Still great though. Although Thor's Ultimate design was rad as hell.

@gabeheartz13saravia97

4 жыл бұрын

Pudlord Tynan do you think that tom hiddelson looks like ultimate loki

@gentlemanmaniac9992

4 жыл бұрын

well yeah they stayed true to the main universe in that regard.

@gabeheartz13saravia97

4 жыл бұрын

gentleman maniac does anyone think that the reasons that chris hemsworth and tom hiddelson were chosen for there MCU roles because they look like there ultimate counterparts.

@sarizonana

4 жыл бұрын

Gabe Saravia I read the comics changed the design of those characters so they would look like Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hidleston. The same with Tony Stark. Before the MCU I see designs where was blue eyed and his jaw was different then they made Iron Man in the comics look like RDJ

The ultimate universe is the reason I'm into comics today and the art captured my attention. I recommend the ultimate avengers animated movie that brought superheroes into my life. The ultimate avengers movie its just this book without the 2002 references its really good love the channel and happy we are getting more ultimate universe.

@NoVACorpsGaming

5 жыл бұрын

Me too, the first comic I started collecting was Ultimate Spider-Man at 3/4. Been a lifelong fan ever since and I will continue to be for the rest of my life.

Yes. Pleas give us Ultimate 3 and Ultimatum. It's not as bad as you remember *evil grin*

@bassgod47

5 жыл бұрын

Oh sweet baby Jesus...

They modernized Thor(he's from a higher dimension, even down to the fact his belt and hammer are portable hadron colliders that're able to access these dimensions)

You've just stepped into The House of Rex. Wonderful episode as usual gentlemen. I'm always impressed with your work.

13:09 I love he hints to the badness of Ultimates 3 it's a little funny

Absolutely do ultimates 3... also, were you two aware of the animated films... they arent great, but they exist... Great show as always

@troytothemax8767

5 жыл бұрын

I am aware of them, and own both of them. I had a note to bring them up during the show but it was already running long so I decided to not. I like them, but I always felt they were a little droll compared to the source material.

Ah, Ultimates. Ultimate Spidey, FF, and Ultimates are definitely some of the best comics at the time. Just forget the Ultimate X-Men. Cause, yknow... Magneto and his bizarre sexual domination of George W. Bush.

@jackness9431

4 жыл бұрын

Scratch ff and you have a decent ultimate universe.

Earth-616 Reality is the Prime Marvel Universe E-616 (Primary Reality) + Semi-Realistic Action Film + Adventure TV Series = Earth-1610 (ultimate universe) E-616 + E-1610 + Disney = Earth-199999 (Marvel Cinematic Universe Action Film Series)

@foreverred97

3 жыл бұрын

Like the way you broke it down.😁😁👍👍

Read it years ago, didn't remember it well, remember it now, rereading tomorrow. If there's a heaven, you will go there guys.

I loved ultimate Spider-Man and ultimate X-men they got me back into comics after being away for awhile

@ImperiusRex

5 жыл бұрын

Exact same here. Marvel put out a magazine-style publication that collected an issue of Ult Spidey and Ult X-Men together. I was hooked.

@gabeheartz13saravia97

4 жыл бұрын

Imperius Rex How did the ultimate universe influence the main stream comics? Are some of the modern marvel titles rooted in reality Partly and slightly serious and dramatic almost like ultimates? (But not cruel)

@gabeheartz13saravia97

4 жыл бұрын

Imperius Rex Why aren’t you replying

The art is fantastic in this series. The ultimate universe was something special!! Great video as always !!

Certainly one of my favorite series of all time. I can attribute the Ultimate line to getting my younger self into an ongoing comics series and the universe that surrounded it. The Ultimates in particular was such a drastically different book than Spiderman and Xmen, and yet, it just made so much sense.

30:23 I don’t see that as a downside I’ve always seen it as Tony always learning from his errors in his past Iron Man armors and constantly adapting with his suits to the point of being really awesomely advanced and even in Infinity War when fighting Thanos it still wasn’t enough

Cool video i think i see some new fans good your channel is growing 👍

Duuuuuudes, it's been almost 10 years since I read Ultimates for the first time. I read it when I was 15, and I don't think it would have the same effect if I read it now. At that time, I got caught by Hitch's art, and not so much by Millar's script. I love it as a teenager, and it has a special place in my heart. I bought Ultimates 1 last year for like $10, and it fills me with nostalgia since it was one of the first comics I ever read till the bitter end. It's a cool story to read that gets better if one understands the context in which it came out. Amazing video!

Yay ultimates

the marvel cinematic universe is a watered down version of the ultimate continuity (E-1610 reality) with more sci-fi explanations and elements of the E-616 reality (primary continuity)

@sarizonana

3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks so much for that information, came to this video looking exactly for that information. I wanted to know in which universe the MCU is based on. Thanks for the data. Much more specific I wanted to know which universe is the inspiration for our heroes origins and personalities. Now I know the the MCU has its own earth in the whole marvel multiverse it’s earth. Is it’s part of the multiverse but I’m sure they used previous earths to do the MCU

Ultimate red skull is caps son

Great episode fellas, highly enjoyable. I read I think the first three issues of Ultimates 3, honestly the only reason I read U3 was because of Joe Madureira. I knew he had worked with Scott Lobdell on Age of Apocalypse then worked on his own creation Battle Chasers, then segued into videogames. Never read Ultimatum. Look forward to when you guys review Ultimates 3.

@ImperiusRex

5 жыл бұрын

Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum were a 1-2 punch that essentially killed the Ultimate universe. It's a shame. So much potential cut short. And Mad Joe's art is great, this was just the wrong book for it.

@gabeheartz13saravia97

4 жыл бұрын

Imperius Rex I feel like without ultimates, The mainstreamed marvel comics wouldn’t be as streamlined, modernized and somewhat Larger than life as they are today, do you agree with me?

MCU tony’s personality starts off similar to his ultimate counterpart but MCU iron man goes through a lot of character development.

i didn´t know i needed this talk that much ♥

Never read the comics, but I remember watching the Ultimates animated movie when I was in like 2nd grade and thought, “these Avengers guys are kinda nuts” 😂 I’d love to hear you guys continue discussing the rest of the series

@ImperiusRex

5 жыл бұрын

The comics are FAR superior to the 2 animated movies.

@LostinthesoundSP

5 жыл бұрын

Imperius Rex alright, I’ll have to get to reading them, if at least for that Bryan Hitch artwork. How would you say his work in The Authority compares to The Ultimates (it being his best work as you guys said). I have yet to read either of them, but I’m interested in checking out more of Hitch’s stuff. (Is Millar & Quitely’s half of the Authority worth reading too?)

@troytothemax8767

5 жыл бұрын

@@LostinthesoundSP I would say it's just a minor step down from his Ultimates run. But still fantastic. And yes continue on and read Millar's and Quitleys run. Also fun stuff.

@troytothemax8767

5 жыл бұрын

I also enjoyed Ed brubaker's two trade run on that as well

@LostinthesoundSP

5 жыл бұрын

Troy To The Max cool, guess I’ll look into getting that Authority Omni when it comes out. Didn’t know about Brubaker’s run. Now I’ll have to dive into the whole Wildstorm imprint stuff. Loved Planetary, so I’m interested in exploring it

Ah You guys are blowing up

@troytothemax8767

5 жыл бұрын

It's more of a slight swelling.

Expecting 90minute ultimate Spider-Man video boys ;)

I say go for it and review ultimates 3 because oh boy that entire series is a complete and utter trainwreck of a sequel

Go for it! 😉🖒

Lot of love for the ultimates, I thought blue boy Tony was a little odd, especially when the bullies thought it would be cool to shove him in the fire . . . Love the ultimates, wasn't there a russian captain America who had been locked away and had gone a little nuts? I think it's a shame it was wound up (I think ultimatum was a shame as well), there were some cool concepts, not just Miles, how about Reed Richards becoming a baddy? I've heard rumours and speculation that marvel has thought about revisiting it, I personally would love to see a new take, in the vein of this with new interpretations of the characters. The odd story set in the ultimate universe every so often, once or twice a year would be cool too.

@troytothemax8767

5 жыл бұрын

I thought ultimate Iron Man was very odd. and I think everyone did as well, cuz I don't think anything brought up in that title was ever re-emphasized in a future book in the ultimate universe.

@ImperiusRex

5 жыл бұрын

I think they even went as far as saying it ended up being a "biographical movie of Tony's life" in the Ultimate Universe.

@gabeheartz13saravia97

4 жыл бұрын

The MCU is a perfect Amalgam of the Primary and Ultimate Continuities

Love the ultimates story by that I mean 1 and 2

Can't believe I missed this episode! I love the Ultimates. I was given it when I was way too young for it. I love this series, the art and the writing are at top notch. I love all the Thor doubt and how much it's Loki using his powers subtly rather than overtly at the end when his goal has failed. Though that's fun too, it's Millar and Hitch going full-superhero and embracing all the crazy that they avoided for the run. Also adore exploring superheroes in politics as they inevitably would be used the way it happens in Ultimates 2. It's a real exploration of Ultimate Spider-Man's genetic war theme. Lastly Ultimate Avengers is interesting if yes inferior. The final storyline is the most like the Ultimates inasmuch as superheroes fighting each other mixed with some political commentary.

@ImperiusRex

4 жыл бұрын

Completely agree.

Cool video. Hey, remember when you guys did podcasts for Patrons? That was cool. :P

@troytothemax8767

5 жыл бұрын

We were just talking about that the other day. We hope to have one up here in the next few days.

That W reminds me of Wonder Man

@ImperiusRex

5 жыл бұрын

General Harris ultimate Wonder Man appears in the series way down the road actually, after Hickman’s run

@gabeheartz13saravia97

4 жыл бұрын

Imperius Rex You’re speaking of red Guardian For the middle eastern character

Yes.

Wait a minute ,if Dave in the ULTIMATES version shouldn't he be dead, since Hickman happened

@ImperiusRex

5 жыл бұрын

Q8 Qabandi I snuck over with Miles

@ImperiusRex

5 жыл бұрын

Also- shoot us an email at imperiusrexshow@gmail.com. You won something during our last Q&A and I want to send you something digitally, since shipping can be an issue.

@ahmedal-qabandi5223

5 жыл бұрын

I, personally thank you for wanting to give me something, however in my country we don't have comixology nor marvel unlimited, but I wish you would give it another fan of yours that deserves it much more than I.

@ImperiusRex

5 жыл бұрын

Q8 Qabandi no worries- I’ve got a pdf I’ll just send you through email

Can you please make episodes regarding USM + Miles USM series ?

You forgot the part when Hawkeye went badass n broke out by using his fingernails as weapons!

@ImperiusRex

3 жыл бұрын

God I know. I kicked myself in editing when I realized we forgot to mention that.

@johnb-k4149

2 жыл бұрын

This was Hawkeye at his coolest.

Take the plunge!

Is that red guy from the liberators supposed to be Wonder Man?

Is guardians of the galaxy also somewhat realistic and semi-serious or ridiculous and unorthodox storytelling similar to the mainstream comics.

@gabeheartz13saravia97

4 жыл бұрын

I kinda like mcu thanos, he looks like the mainstream version of the character and has a similar origin but his personality and motivation is so much better and rooted in reality, he should have been in the ultimate universe instead of that Darkside knockoff Also his armor design is slicker/cooler and more realistic, less cartoony then the comic book version of the character

This is what GOT ME into all Marvel stuff...coincidentally, as Geoff Johns started taking over DC, and creating stuff I really didn't like over there...The Ultimates also marked the time when I SWITCHED over from the DC to Marvel comics. And the fact that this also was the MAIN ingredient that lead to the MCU just makes me love this even more. Too bad Jeph Loeb just had to come in and RUINED it all. F that s**thead.

@ImperiusRex

3 жыл бұрын

It was a great era of Marvel... before it wasn't anymore.

Ah, what a nice time I had reading the first two Ultimates' volumes, then came Jeph Loeb and it all went downhill :( Also, the analogue to Cap that battles against him in vol. 2 has no direct counterpart, but seems to be inspired by The Red Guardian, a soviet equivalent to Cap in regular Marvel continuity.

@ImperiusRex

5 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I knew that he was the inspiration for one of the villains in Warren Ellis' Ultimate Nightmare mini, but a quick wiki search shows that he was actually the inspiration for this guy as well:. Good catch. Ultimate MarvelThe Ultimate Marvel version of Alexei Shostakov is a Russian super soldier codenamed "Captain Russia" meant to be the Russian version of Captain America. This version is certifiably insane and uses a makeshift shield created partially from human remains, and possesses superhuman strength and durability. A fight between the two results in Captain America defeating him, by stabbing him with splintered wood that acts as a stake through the chest, declaring "Fighting is about winning".[22] Shostakov was once married to Black Widow and is now deceased.[23] Colonel Abdul al-Rahman from Azerbaijan (leader of the Liberators) was based on the Red Guardian as the character was a parallel to Captain America, and wears a predominantly red costume and was transformed into a super-soldier by Russian scientists. He faces off against Steve Rogers in front of the White House, one on one but is defeated when the Hulk throws his shield to sever his hands and Rogers kills him with his weapon, resembling a double bladed lightsaber. His body is later taken into S.H.I.E.L.D..[24]

@gabeheartz13saravia97

4 жыл бұрын

Imperius Rex How did the ultimate universe influence the main stream comics? Are some of the modern marvel titles rooted in reality Partly and slightly serious and dramatic almost like ultimates? (But not cruel)

I think the w dude is supposed to be wonder man?

“HULK STRAIGHT!!!!!” ps: ULTIMATES 3 DID suck-excessively. Can’t believe that this guy is the same Jeph Loeb who wrote the CHALLENGERS OF THE UNKNOWN (with Tim Sale on art)! 🖖♾

DO ULTIMATUM!!!!!

DO ULTIMATES 3 AND ULTIMATUM!!!

I dont mean to "um...... actually" you but the Incredible Hulk movie got that scene from this book not the other way around........

@ImperiusRex

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. We know- probably just misspoke.

Who says twenty 02?

@ImperiusRex

4 жыл бұрын

Calvin Allen this guy.

it's not "abiguousness," it's ambiguity

@ImperiusRex

5 жыл бұрын

Irv Pinsky great contribution

@psf334

5 жыл бұрын

@@ImperiusRex hey at least you know i'm paying attention.

@troytothemax8767

5 жыл бұрын

Actually if you're using it as a noun, ambiguousness is correct. Not that ambiguity is incorrect...

Wonder man? that or it just means war

@ImperiusRex

4 жыл бұрын

Wonder Man pops up later under a different writer I think.

The only thing I could think of is Wasabi? A form of the Islamic religion.

The main marvel universe was not taking ideas from the ultimate universe

@ImperiusRex

4 жыл бұрын

There you have it.

The MCU took the depth of character away to create a shallow and boring team. But it was amazing for selling merch to kids.

This book actually looks really awesome, great art too, however it looks like the political aspects of the book are going to be overbearing and irritating as hell, so I might give it a pass, I’ve read enough trashy political Ennis stuff as is.

@ImperiusRex

4 жыл бұрын

It's worth it, even if your own viewpoints don't always align. Masterclass storytelling.

LOL If MCU was inspired by these comics it would've actually been good. Instead they took inspiration from fucking Looney Toons.

I don't think ultimates 1&2 were great at all.