I wish you'd cover the least well known fact about tanking. Whenever you go tank you expect that the healer will always be there to help you. But instead all healers are the most deranged and uncontrollable loons you can find on the web. They use rescue like how a bad dog owner uses a leash. They will berate and hate your very being. I've never once felt secure tanking around a healer in FF14. -A healer main.

@StingcatKnight

9 ай бұрын

new healer guide soon 👍👍👍👍

@DrakeWurrum

6 ай бұрын

Then you've clearly had shitty healers when tanking. O.o

@livamyyo

5 ай бұрын

If everywhere you go smells like shit

@turntapeover5749

4 ай бұрын

Are you projecting your own attitude on other healers? Because I both tank and heal and Im not deranged neither did I get deranged healers. Go figure.

@flooop1

Ай бұрын

@@turntapeover5749 Your experiences is not everyones experiences. Hope this helps. ❤ and stay safe, because i know where you live and i am coming for you 💕

Always make sure to have at least one damage mitigation ready. Damage mitigations also include: Disabling your tank stance and shirking aggro onto a healer. They can heal themselves. Avoiding tank busters. Those hurt, and you don't wanna die. Disconnecting and shutting down your game. You can't be killed if you're not there.

@StingcatKnight

Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 LOL

As a new tank , I didn't know about the flashing enemy cast bar being interuptable. Thanks 🙏

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

glad it helped brothermen 🙏

@wjpark01

10 ай бұрын

First time I noticed this was in Haukke Manor's succubus mobs that cast terror. Super satisfying to use low kick at start of that cast to stop the cast.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@wjpark01 yea its fun doing that but as u get higher level u cant do that anymore 🥲

When pulling mobs, provoke has a longer range than your ranged attack. So if you use provoke first you can grab the mob’s attention sooner than just ranged attack. I main dark knight when I tank so when i pull the first mob i’ll use provoke on the closest enemy, then plunge to a different enemy, and since it is a ogcd I can do unleash as soon as I land. Since I initiated with provoke the mobs are already starting to group together

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

yea that could work quite well

@timalice-2833

10 ай бұрын

@@StingcatKnight it even worked really well for warrior when overpower was a frontal cone aoe instead of circular aoe. You could provoke one, tomahawk another, run through the mob and as long as you had it that the character would face the enemy on an attack you could use overpower and cleave the whole mob in that cone and keep on going. FFXIV was only my 2nd mmo I ever played and the first time I ever tanked like this. I had bad tanxiety at first so I didn’t tank at first much at all. I started playing during 2.45 and leveled all my melee dps and caster dps to max level 60 once heavensward was released before I tried tanking. Once I found this trick it was so much easier.

@qamarqammar7629

10 ай бұрын

@@timalice-2833 I liked the old frontal cone AoE on Warrior, I found it really easy to use. And it helped tanks avoid picking up the bad habit of standing in the middle of a circle of mobs and AoEing as mentioned in the video. I still kind of pretend Warrior has a frontal cone as I run through and it works more or less :)

Some other things to keep in mind regarding mitigation and how to spread it out: if your healer is a white mage, then there's a good chance that they're going to be spamming holy a lot on trash, which will stun mobs for a total of ~7s, this means that you may want to hold off on using your mitigation for a bit at the start of each pull or you'll waste a portion of your mitigation. This is particularly important regarding Arm's Length, since enemies only get the Slow debuff if they attack you within 6s of using it, making it possible to completely waste it while enemies are stunned by holy. Also, keep in mind that your own stun will basically be useless when you have a white mage, as their holy spam will make all of the mobs immune to stun after those initial ~7s. This isn't exactly "bad" as stunning the entire pack of mobs for the first ~7s is fantastic, but you still want to be aware that your own stun isn't going to work. Another thing regarding mitigation in dungeons: don't be afraid to use your mitigation on trash/regular mobs. In fact, that's where you want to use them. You don't really need to worry about saving mitigation for dungeon bosses, they just don't hit particularly hard, and if you do need any mitigation during them your short cd mitigation (sheltron, raw intuition, etc) is more than enough. Trash packs on the other hand will actually do more damage do you than bosses, especially if pulling wall to wall. That's where you'll get the most out of your mitigation, and where you'll make the difference in your healers' eyes.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

👍i didnt know about white mage holy stun until few months ago, always thought whats so op that has aoe stun 🤣

Arm's Length slow debuff is so underrated among sprouts. Basically an enemy auto-attacks you 5 times, but in same timeframe with slow debuff, they'll auto-attack you 4 times instead. Thats one less attack not taking damage from all those mobs affected by it. Really adds up stopping damage.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

its the best mob mitigation tool!

@phiefer3

10 ай бұрын

While Arm's Length is very useful as an additional mitigation tool in dungeons, it's a little misleading to call it one of the best mitigation skills. As noted, the slow will effectively prevent 20% of attacks from mobs, this makes is essentially equal to Rampart. However, Rampart works on all damage you take, while Arm's Length will only work on enemies physically attacking you, enemy casters will not get slowed. Additionally, while the slow effect lasts about the same length as Rampart, there is only a 6s window where that slow effect is applied, so if an enemy doesn't physically attack you during that time then it will avoid the slow (this could be because it was still chasing from a previous pull and didn't get to you in time, or maybe it's an enemy that stops attacking to use some attack, or the enemy was stunned by Holy or some other attack etc). And lastly, Arm's Length is a 2m cd while Rampart is only 90s. It's definitely useful, and too often forgotten; but it's actually one of the weaker mitigation tools in our kits.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@phiefer3 really? did u test it out? everytime i use arms length i dont need to use anything else and i take so little dmg, feel so healthy, once it drops and i get hit like a truck

@phiefer3

10 ай бұрын

@@StingcatKnight The math is right there. Slowing enemy attacks by 20% means you get attacked 20% fewer times. Getting hit 4 times when you would have gotten hit 5 times is a 20% reduction. 4x1000=5x800. And yes, enemies that don't physically strike you definitely do not get slowed by Arm's Length. Most regular enemies in dungeons do physically attack you, but not all, and those ones will be unaffected by it. Arm's Length is, at best, Rampart with a longer cooldown. And in some cases depending on which specific mobs you use it on or other situations it will do less than Rampart.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@phiefer3 hmm interesting 🤔 i think once u get hit by one mob with arms length it spreads out an aoe that slows nearby mobs

Using sprint before pulling used to be such a common things tanks did and now its so rare.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

i didnt know that😲

@allenfriedrich6321

10 ай бұрын

For real. I always Save Sprint for right before pulls. But Healers and DPS (ESPECIALLY Reapers and Ninjas) turn it on the second the encounter ends and End up ahead

If you are playing a level 56+ WAR, for the love of all that is holy, spam raw intuition/ blood whetting every time your health get to half. That one ability will make you near unkillable you don’t even NEED a healer when doing most dungeons pass 56

@setsuna5919

10 ай бұрын

in Blood Whetting we trust 🤣

@davidpoa7775

10 ай бұрын

*Cries in no Blood whetting due to free trial cap*

@davidpoa7775

10 ай бұрын

*proceeds to find hope in Raw intuition*

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

u tell em!

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@setsuna5919 reaal

I love that you mention being beside the group of enemies, rather than in the middle of them, and also potions - more tanks need to know these things. In addition to potions, I also recommend carrying Spine Drops, which cure Paralyze. They're more of a low-level or solo thing, but Paralyze is common enough and *annoying* enough (and healers Esuna rarely enough) that I'm happy to have them on-hand.

@StingcatKnight

Ай бұрын

oooooh I don't think i ever used that spine drops! Thanks for the comment 👍

No one told you to have tank stance on? Are you kidding me?

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

obviously not but i've seen ppl dont know it and even if they did, they forget it ( and i also never said that )

@Talinthis

10 ай бұрын

i have been playing since heavenward launch(if you dont count me playing the beta in sept 2010, but i hated the game so much and didnt play it again) and i sometimes forgot to turn on the stance since the damn dungeons kept turning it off constantly. I think they fixed that now though.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@Talinthis yea idk sometimes in dungeons they turn it off, sometimes they dont, so then u end up forgetting it, or turning it off inside the dungeon by mistake lol

@trustyrat8632

10 ай бұрын

@@Talinthiswhen your level gets synced it will always turn your tank stance off

@sakuraonisan2673

10 ай бұрын

As this was my first MMO when I first started I didn’t realize that the stance is not on rotation so I kept turning it on and off. I eventually learned that was not the case. It was two years ago and I’m still embarrassed about it

and if you tank, dont go into a duty, lets say a lvl 41 dungeon and only wear lvl 25 gear.... and pull wall to wall, you WILL die and it WILL be your fault. Another tip: range dps and SMN can steal agro from you as you pull, to help this, do both aoe combo and then continue, sadly most dps dont hug tank after they steal agro, so do it to avoid drama, unless you like drama? low lvl dungeons, sure u can do massiv pulls, but only the tank has aoe, no one else till lvl 24 i think (around there) but it is kinda fun to do thou mobs dont really die much faster or duty gets shorter at all.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

that happens sometimes the tank is just paper lol

@zidairheart

9 ай бұрын

I agree with this, especially when Tanks blame the healer for not healing.

As a RDM main that has had the "fortune" of vertanking quite a bit because of these... Trust your healers, especially if your in an 8 or 24 man raid. Also be aware of your surroundings I've had many tanks get knocked off ledges because they were not paying attention to where they were in the arena. If you are an OT make sure to pick up adds while the MT is on the boss. Also while OT keep an eye on everyone's health, sometimes DPS will pull off the MT if they are focusing in down one target and not weaving in AOE's to keep agro up, or in cases of multiple bosses in alliance raids the other tank dies... this is where I end up vertanking most of the time or the other boss starts to nom on tasty healer treats. Great guide btw.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

sometimes u gotta do what u gotta do, bring out the tank deep within u as a red mage👍 and thx for watching!

@Ziyanani

10 ай бұрын

i too got bitten by 'hey look that ability hits everyone' (contre sixth or whatever) and ended up a dead rdm when i first unlocked it.. I still do the same thing as dancer with my 4 step dance but.. at least that takes a few seconds to que up so i die less

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@Ziyanani huuh

@dokb1942

10 ай бұрын

@@Ziyanani lol, yep, if you get the attention of the mob your screwed unless you can kite quickly.

@shoux

9 ай бұрын

Vertanking xD Very Verfunny :P

If you have a NInja in the group, you can run along the edge of the Doton and kite melee mobs without them hitting you.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

thats a good tip, ninja aoes are not as obvious to some

This is honestly an amazing guide! Been playing for a week now and this is the most straightforward and helpful tanking guide I’ve watched

@StingcatKnight

Ай бұрын

ty for watching!! healer guide soon!!!

as a healer: make a macro that makes a noise and LETS ME KNOW YOU JUST USED LIVING DEAD or superbolide.. it'll save your healer a heart attack and keep me from using benediction on you out of panic. just cause your health is getting a bit low doesn't mean I don't have it under control.. m cure 2 can hit for more than half your health bar even as a tank and with tetragramaton, benediction and lily spells I'm just using my time to help the dps.. and yes I realize not all healers are me but we have to balance playing kissy booboos and helping the mobs die faster.. trust in your healers, so long as you can find your rampart button once in a while and you have your tank stance on that is literally all I ask.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

good idea, i usually play gunbreaker and use superbolide when im less than half hp, especially im at less than half hp for a good few solid seconds which starts scaring me

@AaronWOfficial

10 ай бұрын

I am not a fan of putting macros on invuln because it can cause delay, and you really don't want delay on an invuln. Also I tend to spam ogcds to make sure they go through, so I would end up spamming "Invuln up invuln up invuln up" in the chat with a load of noises which would annoy ppl. I think a much better way of handling this is to just type in the chat "I have invuln up this pull" so the healer knows while you are on your way to pull it.

@davidlynch9469

10 ай бұрын

Also if your using living dead on a trash pull one aoe will full self heal so wait before you aoe. You cannot go below 1 hp for the next 10 second you like a war invuln but you get a self bene so wait for 5 or 6 seconds if you nervous wait 8 or 9 if your confident then hit your aoe get your full self heal and watch other tanks get jealous of drk invuln lasting 20 seconds. 10 second before proc and 10 second after proc just make sure to tell healer before you do it so they do t heal you and end your super invulne early

@tsbulmer

9 ай бұрын

Even better, make a macro that makes a noise and says in chat that you're about to use an invuln, and hit it before the pull coalesces. Granted, there will be plenty of healers who either don't read it or don't understand it, but when you have one that *does* know what to do, you can get incredible, beautiful efficiency.

@AaronWOfficial

9 ай бұрын

that is a good shout, and yes some healers won't read it but that is on them if they don't@@tsbulmer

1. If you're gonna wall to wall, commit to it. Don't sit there hit 4 GCDs before deciding you want more. 1 GCD and an oGCD, is pretty much all that's needed while throwing ranged attacks. 2 GCD max. 2. Don't run to straight to the wall once you've gathered the packs, just plant yourself at the second pack. 3. Those grey, and green circles on the ground are NIN, and SMN dots. Don't drag the mobs out of them. 4. This really shouldn't have to be said considering how big they are now, but stay in your healers bubbles. I just had a tank run out of Asylum doing #2. 5. PROVOKE when you die. No DPS appreciates tanking the floor after eating a tankbuster because they're getting smacked for 30 seconds after the tank has been revived.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

i like these tips

@mute8375

10 ай бұрын

Yeah definitely get 2 aoe hits in if you’re guna wall to wall. It allows dps to keep hitting the whole way there without ripping aggro

@HRFleur

10 ай бұрын

2

@bananagher7555

10 ай бұрын

@@mute8375 It also depends on the aoe you use, like if I just use a normal overpower and I don't have something like Orogeny up, I'll wait for my 2nd aoe combo, but if I run into a group and I've got enough gauge to decimate from my last pull, then that should be enough.

@surfangel8572

10 ай бұрын

Can't stress the aoe a mob pack twice before moving on. I don't like being an extra health bar for mitigation and as a healer I hate giving any extra attention to those health bars in a pull

I have an addition for Trials and Raids: If you are not the main tank then switch on your tank stance after you both finished your openers so you are always second place in Enmity/Aggro. There are alot of bosses that will give the second on the aggro list something to do or a secondary tank buster. Also if the Main tank dies you can immidiately take over. If you are threatening to overtake the other tank in aggro, then use shirk on them.

@StingcatKnight

Ай бұрын

good point!

As a sprout tank on my first playthrough, great tips! I've heard people mention you can mark players in your party though, so I was just wondering how I do that? Sometimes it gets messy with all the spells and skills firing off (despite how I have the setting on "show limited" on party members and others), so I figure being able to mark the healer might be useful for me, to ensure I know where they are and can see easier if they accidentally pull anything I miss.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

u can click on someone and right click on their name to apply a marker, keep it mind that other players can also see it

@95Jezzica

10 ай бұрын

@@StingcatKnight Thanks! Are just the people in the party able to see the mark? An alliance? Or literally everyone?

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@95Jezzica i believe everyone in alliance can see it as well

@95Jezzica

10 ай бұрын

@@StingcatKnight Alright, thanks a lot! :D

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@95Jezzica enjoy gaming 👍

You have perfectly summarized all the points to be the ultimate ultra tank, cheers on you bro

@StingcatKnight

Ай бұрын

thank u bro 👍

Just started the game like 3 months ago so far i like BLM and DRG but been trying to get into tanks but been skeptical after my first dungeon as tank it was a disaster i died,the healer yeah… 😢

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

dont worry about it, it happens, the only thing u need is to not quit

@dolcebeat6759

10 ай бұрын

Just let the group know you are new to tanking... you'll be surprised of how helpful and awesome the community is. I did so in my first run as healer and people helped a lot and even gave me tips to improve my skills.

I like you’r lalafell eyebrows 😊, the content too 💪. I’m a main tank but I forgot what some abilities do 😭😭😭

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

thx brothermen and no problem we are all here to learn 💪💪

One thing that idk why i never noticed for the few years i've been playin' is that Arm's Length has no shielding or dmg reduction on there AT ALL. Like, i knew abt the slow & knockback immunity, but i always thought for some reason it also had 10-15% dmg reduction on top of that 🤣🤣🤣

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

🤣, tbh it might as well have like 20% damage reduction its a pretty strong form of mitigation (only against trash mobs) by slowing down their attack

What other tips or advice do you have for other tank players?

@Gldnsrpnt

10 ай бұрын

Communicate with the healer. If they seem to be struggling to keep the tank alive during big pulls, ask if they'd rather smaller pulls. Use your mit on other members to help the healers. TBN, cover, HoC, nascent flash, etc.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@Gldnsrpnt very good tips

@ExDupain

10 ай бұрын

when team wipes blame everyone else but yourself😅

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@ExDupain LOL

@gmsupremesteve

10 ай бұрын

As a Healer main, the Tank not even checking with the healer & going for a "wall-to-wall" pull is supremely annoying. To Tank players, read the room, and pay attention to the Healer. If they're good, go full-tilt. If they are new, SLOW DOWN. It I can't see you, I can't HEAL YOU. And USE your mitigations. If you are the tank, and I am the healer, and I see you do smart pulls, and use mits, I'll commend you for it. And yes, I have tanked many times myself. Being a healer prior made me more aware of where people are, and to read their skill level. As for you Healers.... Do DAMAGE, FFS! When I'm on WHM, if I'm not healing you, I'm a Glare Mage.

My god… the eyebrows are glorious!!!!!!!!!!!

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

u too can join the big eyebrow club!

what potion do you recommend for 70 or under content? What to relearn how to tank and having that extra buffer sounds great

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

im using the hi max potion, i think theres a lv90 one but thats probably really expensive and Super-Potion for lv70 and again probably expensive, might not be worth it 🤔

@tsbulmer

9 ай бұрын

50 - X-Potion 60 - Max-Potion 70 - Super-Potion That said, potions are usually so cheap that I get Supers and use them from 15 until they run out, then replace them with the top potion, which, right now, is the HQ Hyper Potion, which heals up to 11k HP. They can often be had for 1,500 gil or less.

Potions are also good for gathering aggro in lower level dungeons as healing generates enmity.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

O: i didnt know that potions can increase enmity

@HRFleur

10 ай бұрын

@@StingcatKnight XD only in low level content, otherwise their healing amount maybe negligible.

@HRFleur

10 ай бұрын

@@StingcatKnight I saw other people mentioned it to be very useful with Haukke Manor (Hard). There's a corridor with laser beams and mobs coming out from doors. If the tank doesn't notice them, healer can get aggro very easily. That's one useful scenario of potion enmity.

@RaidenKaiser

10 ай бұрын

I think they stopped updating potion potency after heavensward so potions fall off hard don't they? Then again heavensward and lower your max hp is alot lower so it's a nice backup plan on case you get to crazy of a pull and need a clutch heal for when healer can't outheal damage you're taking with mitigation.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@RaidenKaiser yea something like that i think, because i dont really see hp potions for higher level

This had some great tips!!!! Just shared with a friend who JUST started the game and picked Warrior to start, and I even learned something, and I have been main tanking for years.... when did reprisal go AoE lol?!

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

glad it was helpful!!, erm i think reprisal has always been aoe lol

Whenever you are synched down to a lower level in a dungeon it resets your tank stance.

@StingcatKnight

Ай бұрын

i see, good point, ty

Hi im a new tank and just a sprout. I just want to ask what do you mean by wall to wall? Also, sometimes i notice that one of my party mates are giving some kind of strange symbol on top of my character (like a white circle or triangle). What does that mean?

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

wall to wall means you pull as much trash mobs as you can until u are stopped by a wall in a dungeon, hmm im not sure why they would give u a marker on ur head, what dc u play on? I've not really seen this happen in mine

@chocobojam8776

10 ай бұрын

@@StingcatKnight thnks for the reply. Regarding the marker, i was thinking that the healer is the one who put a white market on my character. Probably so that he/she would not be confused while targeting me for healing.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@chocobojam8776 that could be exactly why

I agree, Sprinting before mobs is generally the best way both as a means to gather everything and avoid auto attacks. Too bad every dum dum thinks you're being toxic trying to be efficient or still run on ahead of you to pull things. Very noticeable with bosses they just run on full steam ahead ignoring the cutscene thinking ill pull or something

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

sometimes ppl take it the wrong way 🥹

love ur video bro just found you

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

thx bro love u too 🫣

The potion usage is really only viable If You cheese the roulette to get arr dungeons. Higher level health potions are kind of expensive

@StingcatKnight

Ай бұрын

I am at a point where gil is not that useful so its not problem for me

Honestly, this is the baseline expectation one should have of tanks past lv 70...

@StingcatKnight

Ай бұрын

You have too much expectations on tank players

Personally I find mob packs harder to deal with than bosses.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

that is true... unless u are doing harder content like savage

very good video

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

thx bro

I really hate how basic tanking sense this video was... and how many tanks I've had the misfortune of healing/DPSing for need to understand a lot of these... Also why I'm glad I taught the person I play with the most how to tank, makes it sooo much easier not getting crappy habits off the bat.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

its great when ur group is on the same page

@ckwi2245

10 ай бұрын

@@StingcatKnight the amount of stupid things I can do now after healing together for... about 9 years now, is hilarious. Can't say how many times I intentionally "Face Check" new content either as a tank or co-healer, because I can count on the fix being there. Also for anyone else who normally plays with someone else... that dread that comes when other people are tanking and healing and you just suffer as a pair of Tanks, Healers, or DPS, watching simple things of the roles you're not doing going wrong.

My suggestion is that always use range attack first rather than provoke since its have 30s cooldown and range attack already generate half of provoke enmity gain, meaning 2 range attack = 1 provoke I personally only use provoke for emergency hate gain, or when need to switch tank but that just my personal playstyle opinion

@hoisoynono

10 ай бұрын

provoke does have a slightly longer range though. 25y vs 20y of ranged attacks. if there's 3 mobs spread apart I usually use ranged weave provoke and do another ranged on the last one

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

provoke has better range, u dont need to use both for pulling mobs, u just want the mobs to move towards you then aoe cleave all and move to the next pack usually

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@hoisoynono yes that could work too

Can I also add that with the invulnerables add a macro to let the healer know. For example gunbreaker ' yo healer I'm gonna punch myself in the face please look out for me as health will go to 1 hp' Dark 'living dead pop please hold heal till at walking dead'

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

yea that can be very helpful to let healers get ready for it

When pulling packs of mobs, as soon as you provoke or use your ranged attack, you can hit an off-gcd like Arm's Length immediately to have extra initial hate before the mobs are actually in range of your melee attacks. This helps offset the hate from any heals or attacks from ranged DPS in that split second before you're in range to hit the mobs with your own attacks.

@davidlynch9469

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely do not burn one of your strongest mit tools to gain hate during a pull where you will take little to no damage especially if you hit sprint before the pull. Do use an ogcd aoe skill and then your range attack to establish hate. I.e. if you a paladin sprint gap close in use aoe then circle of scorn and the second part of aoe continue your sprint to next group. While sprinting use your magic to intacast on any mob the may need a little refresh of the hate meter or use your shield lob. Then at the end of pull use you arms length for the MIT benefits. Every tank job has a combo like this to burst build hate and keep it without much worry of dps stripping it away even if the dps is going nuts and you arrive with them trash half dead. If a dps wants to range attack before you have even engaged the mobs then the dps can use there self sustains and mits to bring the mob to you. All dps have some type of mits, second wind and blood for heals and if they don't have mits and heals they get massive shields like manaward or carby shield it not worth loosing a MIT that basically reduces damage by 17% for 15 second. Arms length is 70% stronger than reprisal and last 50% longer don't waste it for stupid dps pulling before you even land an aoe attack.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

what do u mean hate?, as in aggro? i dont think its a big deal as u can aoe cleave to regain all aggro very quickly, and using arms length too quickly might not hit as many mobs as you'd like, losing the effect of it

@jadeanime

10 ай бұрын

@@davidlynch9469 Apologies, as I said 'like' to specify the type of ability to someone that might not necessarily know what GCD vs OGCD might mean and Arm's Length is available by the same name to all the tanks. I didn't mean to imply that they should use that ability specifically. Just throwing out little tidbits to keep the 'stupid dps', as you called them, alive.

@belphegor_dev

8 ай бұрын

Terrible advise. Don't waste your mits like this.

fast as fuck boi

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

real speedrunner

If you play on PS5 with a controller, I recommend doing your AOE combo on the first pack before racing to the second pack, because if you missed anything from the first pack with your AOE, it's harder to tab through and isolate it to grab hate on PS5 than on PC. On PS5, it's not just a matter of clicking a mob on your hate list. I play on PS5 and do it this way, because in a large pack, if there's a stray and it's off somewhere attacking a healer or ranged DPS, targeting it is more time consuming and time wasting than just making sure you hit the first pack with the two strike combo before you move on. It would be one thing if the other players would consistently bring their stray over to the tank so I can grab hate. But they never do. So I just pause for a second, get the other skill off, then move on to the second part of the pull. Also, while Arm's Length doesn't hit bosses with Slow, it can be used to mitigate knockback mechanics on bosses.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

interesting, i've never played on console so i cant really comment on this

@AaronWOfficial

10 ай бұрын

I play on controller myself, and I used to do the aoe combo to grab the first pack but some dps are idiots and use their buffs + all their burst on the first pack and end up grabbing the aggro anyway. So I got into the habbit of doing ranged gcd > switch target > provoke > switch target > ranged gcd while running past them which can grab 3 mobs within a couple of seconds, means you do not have to stop to do aoe so you can keep up the pace, and actually does more aggro than an aoe combo since ranged gcd's have the additional effect of increased aggro and provoke also does a lot of aggro + it stops ur dps being idiots because they can't do aoe as much if the mobs are moving. It also lets your party know you want to keep going

@Windupchronic

10 ай бұрын

@@AaronWOfficial Provoke just puts you immediately at the top of the hate list for that mob and a small boost. It matches whomever is at the top for that one mob, and adds +1. If you're already at the top of the hate list for that mob, for instance if you generated aggro from using Shield Lob and an entire pack has you at the top of their hate list, then following that with Provoke on a mob that already has you at the top of their hate list does nothing. It's good to use if you want to pull from a greater range than Shield Lob/Tomahawk, or for pulling hate off someone who shouldn't have it. But if that mob is already attacking you it does nothing.

@AaronWOfficial

10 ай бұрын

If you have stance on, provoke generates additional aggro. It never used to do that back in stormblood but they changed it in shadowbringers. The additional aggro it gives is more or less the equivalent to a shield lob\tomahawk\unmend etc. I know this for a fact, because you used to have to shirk after other tank provokes for a tank swap in raid\trial content but you don't have to do that anymore because of the boost you get from having stance on. If you have stance off, provoke works the same way it always did (+1 above top of table). Basically as long as stance is on, it acts as an ogcd ranged aggro equivalent to a gcd, never lost aggro to a trash pack since I started doing this. "Gesture threateningly, placing yourself at the top of a target's enmity list [while gaining additional enmity]."@@Windupchronic

@Windupchronic

10 ай бұрын

@@AaronWOfficial Still, what you're describing is situational to three mob pulls in a group. If there's more than three, you still need to account for the others. My method covers everything. And I don't consider two+ seconds slowing. I'm talking dungeons, not Savage, where every second counts.

You partied with agents of chaos if no one told you to turn tank stance on lol

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

walking down my way, in a lv16 dungeon, with a sprout tank, i remain silent, after the first boss no one has spoken a word, to the fact that the sprout tank did not use tank stance 😱

If you’re playing in a jp server, it’s alright to only pull one group of mobs

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

wait is there a reason?

@lolRNG

10 ай бұрын

@@StingcatKnight JP players just prefer to avoid confrontation. I play on Kujata which is one of the unofficial OCE servers, and had a level 90 Mentor PLD single pull the entirety of Zot, and not a single complaint, or anyone else rushing them. Yes, he even pulled the lone mobs in the hallways on the way to the final boss one at a time.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@lolRNG lol, dopamine detox run

@leohuang100

10 ай бұрын

Even in lv 90, some people are still learning or uncomfortable with pulling wall to wall, so ppl will respect that. it’s just how it works here, and it’s beneficial for all of us players, you helped a tank learn, let them more comfortable playing tank, and encourage them to pull more. In time, they will eventually try to pull more, you get a faster queue time cuz there’s one more tank willing to take the lead, without watching any guide and learn from actual experience :) “””Same goes the healer”””

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

@@leohuang100 thats a cool idea, i dont think it'll ever work on eu as ppl just seems to want to get things done and over with

1:10 or whoever gets a sages kardia buff

@StingcatKnight

Ай бұрын

that can work too!

DON'T PULL WALL TO WALL IN BELOW LVL 50 DUNGEONS. You don't have the correct mitigation skills and your healer will thank you. Pull packs of 2-3 and use ARMS LENGTH.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

last time i did satasha and i remember saying to my friend im not gonna die pulling to the boss am i and i miraculously survived, i guess satasha being the easier one out there that lets u go all the way to the boss

@NiechoBGC

10 ай бұрын

Thank you!!! Communicate with your team-- ESPECIALLY your healers!

Good tips but why does it seem like every other ffxiv youtuber a female lalafell with the eyebrow paint?

@StingcatKnight

Ай бұрын

I only know 1 other youtuber with a female lala that has eyebrow paint, i copied this from a friend who copied it from him

not trying to be condescending or rude but there's a lot in this video that's just common sense

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

depends on how experienced someone else, if u already know these then this video dont apply to u

Dont ever kite mobs if you're in a spot where you have no mit and the heals arent comeing in. Whats gonna happen is they will cause your dps too kill mobs too slow and you will just die. To be in a spot like that is too just trust your healer and if you all die...its fine go back and try again. Better to go down with a few mobs while trying too stay alive and you might just kill that one mob who hits like a truck and you can safely get your mit back up.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

i disagree, if u see the footage shown i would actually have died if i didnt run around in circle, it helped enough that i barely survived and without the need to respawn and come back, the healer was in no way out of range to heal me, he could heal me the entire time i was running

@gatecruor9292

10 ай бұрын

@StingcatKnight what I said had nothing to do with the healer not being able too heal you....

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

​@@gatecruor9292 u are telling me to stop running in circle, but i disagree, buying that little bit of time can matter, as i've even proven it in the footage on the video

@gatecruor9292

10 ай бұрын

@StingcatKnight the vid is for visual explanation with the chance of someone being in that situation to be very very rare. No healer will have trouble keeping you up at that hp amount with minimal MIT from you...esp when you have arms length and reprisal on such short cds. You can also stun mobs often depending on your tank and white mage which is a common healer can multi stun with holy. There are too many tools even with you have no MIT for anyone too ever be in that situation. Rendering your vid to be poor proof of anything other than a show case of a rare event

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

​@@gatecruor9292 its not that rare lol, theres litreally no reason to just sit still and die like what?? just move to give ur healer an extra second or two to heal u more so u dont die🤔 if the healers are inexperienced this can happen

No a Tank’s DPS is not higher than a DPS roll’s DPS a tanks DPS is a little higher than a healers but lower than a DPS role. If a tank’s DPS were ever as good or higher then a DPS role then it would make having a DPS in the group a little redundant making the structure of having a holy trinity of role system pointless. A tank has decent DPS but it’ll never out DPS a DPS role

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

what do u mean roll? I am talking about AOE damage, especially in dungeons where the player experience level is all over the place, often times i top dps when i happen to have act on as a tank

@belphegor_dev

8 ай бұрын

where does he say that a tank deals more damage than a DPS?

aoe aoe aoe, please

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

worse thing that can happen is a tank only using single target 😭

🤢

@StingcatKnight

Ай бұрын

😠

Mansplaining, Disliked.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

🤣

i like the idea of tanking but i never do it in any game really because im just so worried about fucking up and getting flamed lmao.

@StingcatKnight

10 ай бұрын

its okay brothermen, apply the tips in this video and go at it, trust in the community that trusts in you 👍